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Being overemployed nowadays is essential to cope up with bills and having a savings as well. Government and employers should be open on topics like this. At the end, we all just want to have a quality and fulfilling life here on earth rather than living paycheck to paycheck But with this inflations, overemployment seems only the key nowadays.

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Yep that's my takeaway too.

@4crazy1chick2

3 ай бұрын

I agree

@Biztalkcontrolcenter

3 ай бұрын

🎉😂🎉😂🎉🎉🎉😂😢😢🎉😂❤😂😮

@termintor1

3 ай бұрын

You can go one up and stealth work internationally, I pay one years rent for less than 1 months at home. $$$$saving

I agree with your spicy take 100%. The cost of living is so disproportionately high compared to the average salary that many of us have no choice but to seek "over-employment" in one form or another. Personally, I'm more a proponent of starting your own business on the side instead of working for another employer - that way, there's no limit on your earning potential, and you can schedule it around your 9-5 in a way that doesn't sacrifice your quality of work with either endeavor. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything. 👀

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's what I ended up doing too! It's a shame we've been put in this position but..... 💃 that's life lol

This is not cheating, this is called concurrency and parallelism. Only for people who can perform well this way.

I just quit my last second FT job. It paid twice my first FT job but the stress was just too much. No, not the job stress, although I did not like the job, but we just moved into a new build house and my wife drove me nuts about what furniture matches, and etc. I don't care. I have a dedicated bedroom for an office and my own clothes closet. I'm satisfied. I get up at 3 AM and do all my programming while others sleep. Anyway, I am 74 and that last job was #107 in my career. I learned the hard way when we first married in our early twenties: *Go for the money.* When she would say, _you don't have to work so much, we have plenty of money_ listening to her would be followed every time by a financial catastrophe. I soon wised up.

@wulfsorenson8859

3 ай бұрын

Terrible advice. You literally worked like a dog all your life just to keep the chunk you married in luxury. Now you’re 74 😅

@redrustyhill2

7 күн бұрын

Killing it. My dad is 71, still works 60+ hrs/week driving truck hauling 10,000 gallons of fuel in all weather. I dont want that to be me. No woman to destroy my finances so i hope to retire soon in my 50s, at least retire from being a w2 wage slave. It will require being very frugal.

Brilliant! I completel agree. Our productivity has doubled and our wages have stagnated, there is NO loyalty to us or development of us. We're canned at a second's notice and kicked to the curb. YOU ARE RIGHT!!

@jackieboy1593

6 ай бұрын

The trick all along was to actually use those productivity gains to get a second a third job! You're definitely beating inflation with 3 J's!

Hi Zulie, Very good video on a topic that I was not aware of. I didn’t know until your video that many people are over-employed and working different jobs simultaneously. But I agree that with the availability of remote work, the opportunity to hold down more jobs is becoming easier - if you can deal with the stress and guilt. I agree that no one should have to hold down more than one job - but as the old saying goes, “you have to live in the world as you find it.” Like it or not, many employers are taking advantage of their employees. In fact, I know of one company with a firm rule that you can’t work anywhere else - even getting a part-time job in the evenings or weekends - if you work for that specific company. That sucks! COVID-19 has taught a lot of employees that companies don’t care about them. Which is why we are seeking the “Great Resignation” movement. Keep up the good work, Don

being single and having a single source of income makes it nearly impossible to live in 2022

@user-xg8rx7cg6z

3 ай бұрын

Heck even being married! Lol

@redrustyhill2

7 күн бұрын

Depends on income. I am single at 46. I definitely cant really afford supporting anyone but me, but i am comfortable because i am frugal and don't buy stupid shit.

"Cheating"? - are you kidding me? Do you regard your job like a spouse, or a boyfriend? Then you REALLY have a bad perspective on work......

@maddiewilliams4959

Жыл бұрын

😶🤦🏾‍♀️

@JohnSmith-iu1wl

Жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣 dude, take a joke!

@jasrodie5381

Жыл бұрын

It’s not joke a ceo of a large company said it’s stealing if your working two jobs only reason these ceos don’t want you to have another job is because if your making money than they’re giving you then your not at their mercy and also they know you can do a lot more with that money than just survive like everyone else does

@dj_phonefilesoppof1s874

10 ай бұрын

@@jasrodie5381 in short, they want you their slave.

@W0NDERW0MANNN

8 ай бұрын

I fully agree!! It’s actually none of their business quite frankly.

It's fine when a entity/company has multiple clients.

I love your "Employer as an Allmighty God " comment. So true! You don't owe them anything!

I didn't know the name but I was writing remote for a small org. and GUESS WHAT I did my work finished early for weeks. Then I accidentally let them know I was always finished early and they FLIPPED OUT...like well we'd have given you more work! OR WE'D HAVE CUT YOUR SALARY. So I was literally fired and punished for being EFFICIENT. Lesson learned.

@redrustyhill2

7 күн бұрын

No, its not you being "efficient", its such a low bar today in a world of snowflakes, bosses aren't used to people who dont take 8 hours to do 4 hours of actual work.

I am a remote recruiter with a large company and have been eyeing either part time consultant projects vs doing over employment or even starting my own agency on the side. I think it's harder for regular 9-5pm folks like us to do the two jobs. with meetings, calls and other items on our calendars.

@preyekwalmi3251

Жыл бұрын

Could you help someone starting a recruiting agency with setting things straight for a fee?

@wesdey1337

Жыл бұрын

​@@preyekwalmi3251 I am willing to help. It is an industry that I always wanted to get into. I am based in the UK though... for the info

I have so many jobs: 1. Ghostwriter 2. Blogger 3. Author/Novelist 4. Delivery Driver Honestly, I think two factors are important to consider when it comes to overemployment: How much will you be earning for your time at each job and do you enjoy executing the tasks for the most part? Being a delivery driver is relatively enjoyable for me but it's not a burning passion like writing. That said, I get paid so well for the time I do work-generally speaking-that it makes it worth it.

@leinadliu5337

10 ай бұрын

What you are mentioning is not overemployment. The whole point of overemployment is that from 9-5 you are getting paid by 2+ companies. You just seem like a freelancer.

How do you manage the background check for the new employment opportunity and not having their background check alert your current employer?

Why it's illegal it's like they want as be poor and not live happy life's with good income

Hello Zulie! Been long since I saw your video. Love this new trend "Over employment ". Never knew this term does exist.

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Yes it does! It's a fairly new one. Thanks for watching!

Impeccable explanations ❤

This is brilliant I was thinking of a second job after my first job but it never dawned on me I could do 2 at the same time since I have so much down time and I'd still have time to study for my career change I'm trying to do cause I'd still have the same amount of time off since I'm synchronizing jobs omg

Hey Zulie! I ve heard of this before, not actually by the name of it but a friend had 2 full time jobs. And I personally have had conflicting clients and jobs in the past. Now I think you bring up a few very good points. 1 it is not for everyone, I dont think I could deal with thee preassure of 2 FULL TIME jobs but not only that why do we need them...maybe yes some people is under paid and need two jobs, but some others just want too much? I guess that is very personal. But I feel like I also want to value my rest time and tranquility. I guess it also has to do with your situation, where you live etc right...but very anyways very good topic.

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts! Really appreciate you taking the time to let me know what you think :)

when you apply for the 2nd job, do you leave your current job on your resume?

Can you do this in the digital media/ comms field? I feel like this only works for IT where you can automate stuff.

I'm glad you added your spicy take at the end because I agree with it 100%. I'm sure as companies start to hear more about job stacking that they'll start adding clauses against it in employment contracts for new hires. But the solution is simple. Pay employees more!

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Respect workers and pay them what they're worth and you won't find many job stackers.

@sandnyc

Жыл бұрын

Some of them are setting up computers so they can track the employee while working.

@markmorgan8416

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I've worked for two companies that had their employees sign a contract stating that you won't and don't work anywhere else. And of course I had to leave because I needed more money.

@qjtvaddict

Жыл бұрын

Workers will do it anyway

@qjtvaddict

Жыл бұрын

@@sandnyc ohh well no employees for them

This the video really needed. Very helpful advise. I use to feel a type of when about quitting jobs, joggling jobs, and managing meetings, now I know to put myself first. Working multiple jobs has made a pathological liar😂 You can’t succeed with multiple jobs if can’t lie. I actually have a documentation of lies that prepare for different situations.😂 In my experience, the worse nightmare of multiple jobs is when the meetings clash between the jobs. I’ve quit 6 figures jobs because of too much meetings. I don’t more than one meeting per day is necessary for most It jobs. To manage multiple jobs, best start with one, master the environment, then get the second one

Yeah me too, bored at work. Working from home, once you cut all the office shit out of your day, a full time job isnt full time. Working two jobs, its really nice. I am not bored, I have double salary, and SECURITY!

I don’t know. I believe overemployed really refers more to folks employed at two or more W-2 jobs. Side hustling or building your business on the side is a very different experience with different risks.

Haha I really like you! I just started watching you. You're awesome. Thanks for you're tips 😊

In an enterprise job, it's often impossible to work half your hours even if you want to. Many of us are very frustrated at how difficult it is to get things done, and think we might as well be doing a 2nd job.

Great insight! Great content. Employers OWE YOU NOTHING and will not reward your loyalty (for most people). Even if they have a non-compete clause all that means is IF THEY FIND OUT THEY CAN FIRE YOU. But they might do that anyway because it is implicit in most jobs anyway.

Hi Julie, Is doing freelancing or writing on a revenue-sharing platform, considered moonlighting in corporate companies? These jobs are not salaried ones. So, will they be penalized?

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the job and the contract. Definitely read your employment contract carefully. I recommend r/overemployed if you have any other questions, I'm not an expert in this field :)

How do I get in touch with Zach? How do we work with Wade Marketing if we want help to start job stacking?

How do you handle meeting conflicts? For example, my current team has a team meeting every Monday morning, and I guess a lot of companies do that. It is hard to decline those mandatory meetings.

At age 62 I FiNALLY learned to have boundaries and perspective with employers. Don’t love a company. It will never love you back. The more you give the more they demand. The more you accomplish the more they pile on. They pay, promote, and train unfairly based in biases. In my current job they keep me wildly overworked. I’m applying for remote jobs. If I get two, I’ll try to do them in tandem.

Awesome Video

I just recently joined the overemployed club. Got a part time job. It's gonna be tough, but I have no other choice

I’m hoping to join the overemployed team

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed for you! I hear it's a good place to be :)

Is it best as a full stack developer to work 2 remote jobs at different time zone.. For example a NY remote and a CA remote

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Great question! I recommend asking in the overemployed subreddit or discord.

@wulfsorenson8859

3 ай бұрын

So you don’t need to sleep?

@guillermoal8514

3 ай бұрын

@@wulfsorenson8859 sleep is for the weak... plenty of that when you die

I've been following you for more than a year.... hope you don't take this too personal but the background music is making it harder to listen to the video :( I normally play and replay your videos while doing chores in between work and deadlines Sending all the love

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Noted, thanks for the feedback!

@BlamBar-qj8yh

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. Background music is at a perfect volume and i had no issues hearing the content.

@realtalktina

Жыл бұрын

@@BlamBar-qj8yh just respond from your account 🙃

are people supposed to work a certain amount of jobs?

I just figured this a year ago and I am recruited - I am on a job hunt. I await the decision on recent interview. It’s also allowed in my country Alsace as at usa. I don’t even have to tell or notify my employer. I wonder if I can do it 😮 I am afraid but what else then to try? What makes me wonder is on a one had we talk about less and less work due to ai and technology, we think about 4 day work week and on the other hand overemployed ? I don’t have supportive family but money is a good support. 😮 people will let you down, money won’t. I am just fed up with saving on everything and I want to build a safety net!

When searching for a second job, do you list your current job?

My question is: How do you avoid either employer from seeing your LinkedIn or other social media profiles? Many of us have a professional LinkedIn profile with a current job title and company listed. Is there a way to avoid a 2nd job from seeing this other than just deleting?

@chattingman6777

7 ай бұрын

I heard you can put linked in on private so they can't see it. Limit soical media presence in general.

@dacripe

4 ай бұрын

Just leave your 1st Job as is on your profile. Don't list Job 2 at all. If someone asks from Job 2, tell them you just don't have time to update it. I think you can make it private as well, but that will limit people from seeing you for good or bad.

@redrustyhill2

7 күн бұрын

Why TF do you feel the need to have ANYTHING on LinkedIn? Is it paying you?

Do you take on just one insurance and 401k or stack them on?

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

This is where I don't know -- I think overemployed dot com has a few resources for how to balance those benefits.

@bluetech7128

Жыл бұрын

1 insurance. pick the insurance from your primary job then both 401k for both two jobs

Im ready !

I told family I was doing two jobs, for three consecutive months I was asked for loans. I decided to tell everyone it was too hard and I quit one.

@redrustyhill2

7 күн бұрын

You don't know how to just say no?

Just started job 2 it's absolutely needed to buy a house where I am

@redrustyhill2

7 күн бұрын

Move then. Boggles my mind how city apartment dwellers act as if they cant easily move to a better place with cheaper costs. Like a guy i used to work with. On a good day he had an hour and half drive one way for a mediocre to low paying job. No family, rented an apartment. He could have got an apartment for same price within walking distance of the job. When that job laid me off i moved 1k miles from a communist shithole urban jungle left coast distopia where 75% of my income went to housing. To rural America where my house is paid for and it takes 9 minutes to get to work and heavy traffic is being stuck behind a tractor for 2 minutes. Theres lots of cheap houses for sale if you are willing to escape these failing urban centers and unsustainable suburbia

I considered doing this, before it was a thing. I had two offers on the table and instead of accepting both, I chose one of the two. Would've been about $170K. May have been very difficult with those two though, but I definitely considered it.

Good for remote work only obviously

Underemployment leads to overemployment. Boring, lots of downtime, salary could be a little higher.

Sounds like a smart employee.

OE 4 lyfe 🎉

1:20 omg 4 jobs ? that's like working 4 x 8 hours = 32 hours / day the guy is unbelievable

Zulie: Inflation = Overemployment. It’s US economics

Waw, the end was wired...

My challenge is how do you explain per CV time overlap?

@ZulieWrites

4 ай бұрын

You could either adjust the time periods. Or only include the job that fits the most

So help me understand this math. Let's say you have three jobs that are 8-hour jobs 40 hours a week. Let's say actual working time required to accomplish this tasks are six and a half hours each. That's 19 and 1/2 hours of work needed per day.. How do you accomplish that in 8 hours?

@redrustyhill2

7 күн бұрын

The question nobody answers. This situation is only possible for those who work looser jobs where it only takes 2 or 3 hours to complete the actual work but get paid for 8. They usually work all multiple "jobs" from one office, usually at home.

This is virtually impossible for most of us with real jobs in the real world, not this online fake reality thats becoming more common. I work 2 jobs and it isnt paying 30k/month not even close. Skilled work too. Mechanic, welder, truck driver, equipment operator. My main job isnt paying any more than i was making 15 years ago. I am comfortable though because i moved to a rural area far away from any urban center and not seeing 75% of my income going towards housing while spending 2 hours a day commuting

WHAT ARE THE JOBS, WHAT IS THE TRAINING? Lets be realistic, this video is pointless if you dont discuss what jobs to stack, how to apply, where do we get the training.

@wulfsorenson8859

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. No way I could do a second job. Would not have the time. Also this would only work with remote jobs.

I’m ok as long as you let each employer know that you are not working exclusively for them, and that you will be putting in less than 40 hours each week (maybe significantly less). That’s the ethical quandary, “pretending” to do work or hours that you’re not. I’ve seen situations where team members will put in extra hours to take up slack for people that are just barely “productive enough”, due to home issues. It would be sad to find out that they are putting in extra hours to take up slack for someone who is over employed.

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I think it is always a good idea to consider your coworkers for sure.

@wulfsorenson8859

3 ай бұрын

There are no ethics in business.

Are you deleting all the negative comments on your Medium posts? Because on other KZread videos about Medium there are many negative comments from users.

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Hi Susan, no I'm not! That would feel dishonest to me.

@susannolen998

Жыл бұрын

@@ZulieWrites Yours are the only posts about Medium that don't have negative comments about it.

@redrustyhill2

7 күн бұрын

​@@susannolen998censorship is what loosers demand and despotic tyrants enforce.

I would just rather have passive income I see people pulling in 30k on Esty and low-content books and Amazon books

@kattihatt

Жыл бұрын

take on multiple jobs, stack and invest the surplus and youre fire after a few years.

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

That takes a lot of build up, too! I doubt you'll find anyone who's doing that kind of stuff without sinking in a LOT of time and effort. They're both options!

@realtalktina

Жыл бұрын

@@ZulieWrites you only do the effort once!

@selenas5415

Жыл бұрын

@@realtalktina I had an Etsy business. You will need to spend a good chunk of that $30k on advertising dollars, especially since everyone is doing low content books these days.

@realtalktina

Жыл бұрын

@@selenas5415 false again

Hey Zulie & Zach: This was an interesting video -- I am glad that you made it. A few more potential 'cons' to job stacking...Huge Tax Bill at the end of the year...paying Uncle Sam with that 2nd, 3rd job, etc. About the cheating your employer aspect...if you don't have enough work at your job, then it should be a part time job, right? The cheating aspect is that you're taking money from a business for time you didn't spend on their work...not cool ...what if your employer promised you $100k for your work, but then cut it to 50k and then hired a second person, to whom he gave your 'extra' $50k ...same deal...

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

Good points!

@qjtvaddict

Жыл бұрын

Ok troll😊

@psilocybin3602

Жыл бұрын

LMAO NOT COOL keep lickin the boot then

@wulfsorenson8859

3 ай бұрын

Who gives af what the employer thinks. They’ll ditch you at the drop of a hat the moment it’s financially viable and the wages these companies pay are obscenely low to cover the cost of living 😅

Not sure how can they hold multiple full time positions if they signed non-competes and NDA and it’s easy to get caught

@ZulieWrites

Жыл бұрын

It's not that easy -- some employers are on the lookout, but many others aren't. Plus, many contracts don't require non-competes and NDAs. That's how these folks are doing it legally.

Yes, this is cheating. The only thing this will do is cause employers to cut all remote jobs or drastically lower the salary for them because remote workers will get other full time day jobs anyways.

Step 1: Sacrifice your productivity and integrity

I’m not understanding how people make this work. Are these only salaried employees? What fields are these in mostly? What if you’re a parent, or a single parent? I worked remotely with customers/patients in healthcare and they literally had us by the cojones. We were fully monitored, timed, mandated meetings and written up you miss them, there was no grace period for lateness or absence. If you were a minute late you would receive a write up after 3 separate minutes/incidents! We were even monitored after hours through our computer, camera and microphone. You weren’t allowed to use your own equipment, even if it was more comfortable for your own health, you weren’t allowed to use your office space for any other purposes or jobs. We weren’t allowed to have our families home while working at all, we had to show proof of childcare to our supervisors. This should be extremely illegal!

Cheating?

A guy at work did this and we all knew him as the shit low productivity guy and had to pick up his tickets.. we fired him. I bet the other company thought the same. I'm glad he's gone and won't forget his name. It's not worth ruining your professional repuation for.

I want to be like Polly

Wrong words your privilege is showing some people work two jobs so they can eat it’s not a trend

all tyhat will happen is you people will end up paying much more tax

Interesting normalizing unethical business behavior whilst condoning it in a professional KZreadr manner. Got it

Because of Reddit and videos like this, companies have added conditions on their contracts to stop you from being full-time on more than one job. So good luck being sued.

Smh.

There are making money, there don't want you to work, is this fucking tai idea

This is illegal. Don't do this.

@Heelsfan-bd5tf

Жыл бұрын

It is not illegal. It’s likely a breach in contract and risks termination but definitely not illegal

@BlamBar-qj8yh

Жыл бұрын

it's not illegal and there is absolutely no source that verifies this. Stop talking out of your ass.

@wulfsorenson8859

3 ай бұрын

The wages these companies pay should be illegal. So should at will employment.