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@KadiusFTW

3 жыл бұрын

There is a youtube channel called Miyconst that does a LOT of x99 knock off board reviews that has a review of this specific board. I believe you have to OC in windows with XTU to get it anywhere because of the power limit being something that windows initializes on these boards.

@MrRourk

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@abdulmuhaimin5274

3 жыл бұрын

Yo! You have a timestamps!

@vollkerball1

3 жыл бұрын

Techyescity would like to have a word with you

@Ty-sm9cv

3 жыл бұрын

This doesn't fix the TDP issue, but have you considered under-volting to get a higher clock speed? I didn't see you try Intel extreme tuning utility, that can do things the bios can't a lot of the time. Maybe you could try Throttle-stop? Throttle-stop is usually for under volting laptops, but it's a very deep tool and it does have to ability to modify C-states...

Few people mentioned it but Miyconst has a bunch of videos on these boards, he is the x99 master.

Despite of all its shortcomings, that is a good looking motherboard

@rednammoc

3 жыл бұрын

Except it says "GAMEING" in one place (though they managed to spell it "GAMING" elsewhere). That alone would annoy me no end.

@PedroHenriqueQuiteteBarreto

2 жыл бұрын

@@rednammoc It seems to have been corrected in newer motherboards.

That b-roll music was lit.

@PowerToolism

3 жыл бұрын

Lit af

15:17 Ask Miyconst channel about that powerlimit. He reviews these motherboards and turbo unlocks them.

@dvy6660

3 жыл бұрын

Up up up

@jb678901

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I am far from an expert and have limited OC and BIOS modding knowledge. Especially the later. I was able to Turbo-Unlock the HuananZhi X99TF paired with an E5-2678V3 by modding the BIOS using Miyconst's step by step tutorial and tool-kit. Took me 20 minutes and it worked on the first try. Best damn PC tutorial I have ever had the pleasure of using.

@bluethumbdiy4735

3 жыл бұрын

All these X99 boards are indeed hard limited to a max of 140 watts. If you find a way around it, you will likely smoke the motherboard as VRMs/power delivery are not designed to go higher. If you want to go safely higher, you need a new board. But, the results you were getting is excellent nonetheless

Man you got me in the feels when you thought you'd bricked it. I'm sure we have all been there but you could feel the feeling of dread. Also really enjoyed the little cuts in editing in moment to moment between hoping for it to post. Nice one.

That mobo actually looks really nice. I hope there is a follow up with the power limit eradicated

3:37 - Ah, the kitteh rule of life: If I fits I sits...

I'm amazed that such a relatively small channel can produce content this good

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

Get to know me, I'm amazing 😉

@nathangamble125

3 жыл бұрын

Xeon E5 enthusiasts care about getting a lot for little investment, so it makes sense that they'd also put effort into giving lots of info even though they have a small audience. Miyconst is another small youtuber (only 6K subs) who makes great content about these chinese motherboards and xeon CPUs.

@HazewinDog

3 жыл бұрын

ouch. there are tons of smaller channels (even ones with 10x less subscribers) that produce great content. not having a lot of subscribers =/= being stupid.

@francescovolpini

3 жыл бұрын

@@CraftComputing also modest ;)

@SlowHardware

9 ай бұрын

​​@@nathangamble125miyconst 26k now 😊

Ah yes, another chinese motherboard video. THANK YOU! I was the random weirdo who told you about the aliexpress build I was doing on one of your past streams lol

Awesome video, despite the failure. My hat off to you for posting it anyway! That build + b-roll montage was awesome!

@tomscott7991

3 жыл бұрын

I don't see it as a failure, Great content, encourages viewer involvement, is relatable to all skill levels of builders [ if you haven't bricked hardware your not trying ], add the adult beverages

Great video Jef, I'm a relatively new subscriber but I like your style of videos. Nice and refreshing to have another channel besides the really big ones. Keep up the good job!

Having bricked a board myself before messing with BIOS I felt your heart dropping.

Oh thats such a good beer

I picked up a Chinese x99 board back in March from Aliexpress...believe it was the x99z v102 or something like that. I had a spare E5-2620 v3 that I dropped in, 4 sticks of 8gb ECC ram, and a 512gb NVME m.2. This thing has been absolutely rock solid for 6 months running unraid with a 5 disk array. Even handles GPU passthrough no problem with correct IOMMU groupings. Haven't tried overclocking it at all but for the use case, I honestly don't have a need.

@Angryfuture

3 жыл бұрын

What board did you get? Im looking for the correct IOMMU groupings.

@dcarpenter85

3 жыл бұрын

@@Angryfuture x99z v102 from aliexpress

hold on Lexar is still a thing? and they make NVMe drives now? and they're sponsoring Craft Computing? cool :D

The background music sounded like it was from a 1970's TV detective show.

I like your unique style, with the drinks, take my like

Would be interesting how an undervolt would work on this if the turbo values do work. Would bring the TDP down a bit making higher turbo before hitting limits?

Rambo must love all of the boxes you have.

Fantastic music choises!

New subscriber here. I love, no, im obsessed with xeon builds and Chinese motherboards

Quick question. I am not planning on overclocking at all but would this board be suitable for a E5-2697 or E5-2699 V3?

Are you tried to use HyperTransport Frequency (BCLK Frequency) or something like that (sorry for my bad english)? Because on my motherboard when I add +100mhz by HTF it's totally disable TDP limit on my CPU. Or maybe I'm dummy and the "Core Max OC Ratio" is synonym for the BCLK Frequency

The Macube 550 is the same case I use, I have it in white. Love it! The only thing I did different from your setup for airflow is I have the fans on my rad on the side profile there pull in air from the side vents, and exhaust from the back. Lovely case, my 2700x max has ever hit 72c.

The kitty part of your videos is always my favorite part

Any luck on Intel XTU's Advanced Tuning menu?

@charlesturner897

3 жыл бұрын

I really don't know why he isn't using it, I've overclocked x79 xeons on locked motherboards and it's what I use exclusively for my x99 overclocking despite having an unlocked mbo

@joostwestra

3 жыл бұрын

I would also at least try XTU to change the TDP limit

@matk22

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlesturner897 only trouble is xtundoesnt open with start up

u can use XTU for set what TDP u want.what is the max ram frequency on this board for overclock?

I plan to purchase this board. Have you tried to forward the video card to the virtual machine in a proxmox? I would like to know in advance before buying whether the forwarding works on this board or not.

Jeff, have you tried the Throttle Spot application? just wondering if it will work with these Chinese mb... I haven't tried the app., but I have seen videos of it working on laptops.. lmk.. thanks jd

Do you know what means the code 73? I have the same motherboard and the pc starts and seems run well, but I have this code all the time. Could be something bad?

Have you tried Throttlestop?

Is there a BCLK somewhere in this boards bios? I have a 2680 v4 that I'm trying to squeeze just a little more out of in this board and I'm lost finding the base clock.

I love the way u stack the ram

Looking information about this motherboard, looks good for a containers home server.

Could something like the Elmor eVc help. Not sure if the voltage controller uses i2c but it's with a search. Find the controller, identify it and look up it's data sheet then see if it uses i2c, if it does you can hook up the eVc and adjust whatever you want.

I've had no trouble unlocking the All-Core-Turbo on my 2678 V3 with a Huananzhi X99-TF which is nearly the same as yours. But undervolting is a must to get all cores to run at 3.3 Ghz under load (my sample takes -50 mV just fine). Windows runs mostly fine on the newest releases also with the unmodified C6-entries but I had some trouble installing Linux where it hangs during the installation with these enabled. But I have seen a strange issue with an Intel i350 network card and PCIe errors popping up, it turns out that you need a workaround (pcie=nommconf) because X99 has some trouble with some BIOSes (that is with a Jingsha X99 D8D3 which I bought as an alternative to test - maybe the BIOS of the Hunanazhi boards already have the fix).

Is there a way to change the TDP rate of a CPU? Have you tried throttlestop?

@PerryStevPT

3 жыл бұрын

@Lemur Monkey Is it worth it?

Nice video, this reminds me of AMD telling that it wasn't gonna be possible the upgrade for the bios in the b450 motherboards

Where can I get some of that beer?!?

Just a heads up, the all core turbo unlock doesn't help with TDP limits. I'm using an Asrock X99 board and my 2690v3 drops 100MHz when running cinebench to keep to it's TDP limit. But whilst gaming I will still see 3.5Ghz on all 12 cores. I'd suggest you want to look at Throttlestop, Intel XTU or quickCPU to try and remove TDP limits.

I feel like these boards would be a cheap way to get into the x99 chipset. If I remember correctly this chipset also supports Broadwell?

When I start the pc I hear a long beep followed by five short beeps, the pc turns on and the peripherals also do not give a signal, what is my problem?

Have you tried turning it off then on again?

The chapter titles for this video are great candidates for replacing the stages of grief.

Damn i really like that case..😂do they still sell them?

Xenons have stricter TDP limitations than consumer models?

Can you do a cod warzone benchmark on this Board and CPU very interested lol

Got a link to order that fine example of a beer from? When googling it I just end up in a never ending circle of Dio and Killswitch Engage

Please help! How to unlock z10pa d8c. Thanks

In this motherboard the modified bios with turbo unlock works only with 26xx v3 CPUs that is why changing of the CPU to 2680 helped. On thees motherboards the only way to override the TDP limitation is to upload the modified turbo unlock driver with undervolting (only the 26xx CPUs). The changing in bios or using the intell ETU - does not change anything.

Lol, did you try to unlock turbo boost on 16xx processor? It works only for 26xx

Not sure if this helps but I know from my E5 2678 V3 hitting it with heavy avx workloads like cinebench causes the all core turbo to drop due to the tdp limit. If you use CPU z to either bench or stress CPU you can usually see it hit it's max turbo. So in theory using CPU z to validate the overclock with hw monitor might help. Also in games it will hit it's max frequency too I tested using tomb raider. I am not aware of a way to remove the tdp limit which when you run avx heavy workloads limits the max frequency.

This greens cables are beautines in his pure state

Can i install thunderbolt 3 pcie card? Support or not?

ill still buy that board thanks bro

What was the point of deleting the microcode?

The turbo unlock doesn't modify the short and long term turbo duration nor limits. I have a similar board with a 2673v3 and I'm stuck at 85W (I bought a low TDP part on purpose, I just was playing around with it). The BIOS should let you play with the duration, but it fails with the limits. It's a BIOS issue, they are all more or less the same. You could try with Intel XTU, but your mileage may vary.

I had a 1660 V3 ES back in 2015 I tried it on 3 different boards and I could NEVER get it to OC despite everything else. (I still have a x99 sabertooth with me, bios dodgy chip despite buying a new one and flashing over) everything i read said you could but it turns out only non ES can... though I use a 3900X now and i had a e5 2675 v3 after selling the 1660 v3 es

I know that feeling, desperately tapping the bios entry key, praying if you keep tapping it just might work.... And the "woohoo" after clearing cmos....yeah totally been there.

This OC work in e5 2678 v3 ?

Win some...lose some... Nice build Jeff

I have the X99-TF, same board with DDR3 support. I can manage a 1650v3 up to 4.6ghz, but tbe voltage controls get wonky if i go over 1.4v. ThrottleStop can bypass the TDP limit but the limit breaks itself all the time anyway lol. Im running a modded Russian bios from Github that opens up the bios a lot, but a lot of the new options don't work (like the BLK clock options). Custom splash screen tho. Also the RAM voltage is completely borked as far as I can tell, so 1.2v is your lot. Can manage 2400mhz (limit with unlocked chips on these Chinese boards) @12-11-11-24.

@themanthemyththelegend1392

3 жыл бұрын

1.4 Lol..........

@pigdad

3 жыл бұрын

@@themanthemyththelegend1392 I was running it in a crusty, Chinese parts water loop so I had thermal headroom to spare. Good for the chip? Hell no. Fun for some benchmarking? Absolutely.

Did you try using Intel xtu? Maybe you can unlock tdp throught that.

@tomscott7991

3 жыл бұрын

The new version errors on start for me now on an I7 4960. Love the channel and concept behind it Good Luck w/ the bios

Do you not need an ECC dim?

Funny this just showed up. I recently got a Jingsha X99 Dual F2. People talk about the bios in the Chinese boards but I have never seen so many options. I don't know if they left a dev one on it or if every option works with the board but I am sure it can do a lot more as soon as I figure it out and have the nerve to try it.

🤔 Is there room at the top of the case to mount the radiator? That was the pump is at the lowest point.

I do think Intel Xeon e5 26XX ES has some problems with EFI BIOS

what is your advice of using this motherboard with a e5-269 v3 as desktop for work and study,,,,, some people had issues with ram compatibility. and also the fans on the vrms are not providing sufficient cooling ..... and last e5-2696 v3 needs 250 wastts ... can this mother board handel this load for 10 hr a day .. and any advices ?

@abdelrahman458

2 жыл бұрын

i am not going to overclock it

Did you just break the first Xeon CPU?

Where is the link!?

If anyone still watching this: Will this board run regular decktop memory? Or is it ECC only? In the AliExpress ad it states: 'Memory type supported: non-ecc/reg ecc/ecc' but I'm not sure what its telling me.

Ronnie James Dio approves of the beer. Like the eyes of a cat in the black and blue.

Great Job Jeff. I'm really not a fan of those boards but for the price it could be fun. LOL

Why do I already see a soldering iron ripping of sense resistors? :D

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

.....

For those that want to get into the BIOS flashing game either on Motherboards, Video cards or anything else really. If you are new to the game make sure you purchase a product with a dual bios. That way you can go ham and do anything you can think of and if it bricks swap to your 2nd bios and flash your first bios back to normal and try again! This helped a lot for my 1080ti. Right now I'm using a Inno 3d vbios and I wouldn't of even thought of flashing it if I didn't have a dual bios.

with xtu are possible up the tdp

I felt that anxiety kicking in, when you flashed the bios. Just FYI, you can flash the bios chip with an raspberry pi and clamp/wires directly to the bios chip, if something goes wrong.

Any body knows about ram Speed with this? IDK if could work with DDR4 2400Mhz in case of V3 (v4 has rated that speed on Intel ARK)

I don't think the TDP can be bypassed on the 3rd gen Xeon chips sadly. Even if you enable all-core turbo, once the turboboost times out you are TDP-bound.

@tubularmonkeymaniac

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I think you’re right, as I have a 1680 v2 that can be clocked to 4.5 no issue, but all the v3 benchmarks I’ve been seeing haven’t improved.

Intel EXTU software might get you something more?

Would throttlestop work by chance. I know throttlestop can set msr registers to disable or alter power limits

Cool video. I have a 5820K and X99 system that won't boot. Not worth the money to pick up spare parts for troubleshooting at the moment. But eventually I'd like to pic up ali Express X99 mono and a couple cpus on the cheap to make a file server out of or something

My go to fans as well

You plan on selling that GTX 1080? I want to buy xD

You can always software OC it using the intel extreme tuning utility. I have an HP Z620 and I have my E5-1650 V2 pushing 4.4Ghz all core. I did upgrade to a better air cooler.

@max6833

3 жыл бұрын

Would you mind telling me how I have a 1620 v2 on a z420 and have never been able to get xtu or throttle stop to work properly.

@shaunrattee224

3 жыл бұрын

@@max6833 do you have the newest bios? I just set the clocks and hit apply. Stable at 4.4.

I thought the TDP was locked on the Xeons no? Not sure.

Pls try to overclock it with intel XTU

Interesting! Although I wouldn't risk this kind of sketchy bios modding on a rig I actually need to use.

Hi for me the problem is you have deleted the cpu microcode in mmtool, this is normal the motherboard dont boot anymore with the main cpu you wanted to boost because the board need this to recognize the cpu. Sorry for my bad english, Julien.

Pros: The cat

@OjStudios

3 жыл бұрын

Define incorrectly mounted?

@calvinwalker4654

3 жыл бұрын

@@OjStudios Gamers Nexus does a great video on how to install them.

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

He asked you to define your criticism. So let's hear it.

@calvinwalker4654

3 жыл бұрын

@@CraftComputing It's literally the top Google search result but I guess that's about as difficult as installing the radiator correctly. You have some great videos but it''s important to do a little research. Some first time PC builder will copy this and wonder why he's having issues LOL

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

My point was, did you actually learn anything from the video, or are you just repeating "Don't install tubes up!!!!"? Because the only issue with this orientation is it may lead to hearing water trickle, and some people find it annoying. The pump is not at the top of the loop, which was the primary issue discussed in the video. And besides that, how else would I mount a radiator in this case? This is literally the only option available.

my friend ,i have an atermiter x99 mobo with a xeon e5 2678 v3(it is the same e5 2680 v3 but with better memory controller) and with the all core turbo, i have reached to unlock the tdp to 150w and it eats them!! I had an option of the tdp in the bios,just check the socket 0 configuration

Its pretty cool that these boards are starting to catch people's attention bc in been interested in them but all the vids are in Russian or Chinese and I want to know more about them

Could be windows limiting TDP or hex edit bios to unlimited TDP

TDP seems to be a hard limit...so an undervolt offset may help increase the CPU freq. Else, a BLCK increase...which is not usually possible with the Chinese MB bios.

mi domando come fa a vedere le ram non ecc vorrei saperlo se possibile

this guy gets it.

Also I want that beer now

@CraftComputing

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously, go find it. Amazingly good.

Erro code , FF in morther board x99-TF ? Help me ?

Hi, i bypass tdp on laptops using Throttle stop