Finally! After watching and listening to many of the "Orca"-Videos ref. the situation in Spain/Portugal you guys literally are the one of only two who actually understand the "real problem": And that is us! (well, quite obviously not you, but "us, as in mankind". Thank you for your wise words that hopefully will be heard be lots of people still oblivious to the hugely damaging extend of our "every day actions".

I am a long-time sports fisherman on Canadian Westcoast. Fishing off of 16-24ft boats. When the Orcas swim under my boat and never touch a downrigger wire or fishing line my knees still knock together!!! CHEERS

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

They definitely are an incredible animal! Thank you for watching the video and commenting 😁. We would also get the same feelings seeing a blue whale, shark or sea snake. Its amazement excitement and fear, but most of all respect for nature. All our best Brynn and Jade

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665

2 жыл бұрын

Dont blame you ...imagine how the kayakers or boarders feel 😂. At certain points of the NZ coast over deep waters big Sperm whale bulls gather ... these are Gnarly characters and as the largest toothed predators alive dont always like visitors.. So theyve earned the nick name of Hoon's from NZ slang for Hooligans even large boats stay away.😉 kzread.info/dash/bejne/iJV3rMRqetvJcZs.html These guys are older and usually solitary and have long life times of experience in dealing with their only natural preadator...packs of Orca when they are young usually. 🐳🐋 Their huge head bulges, nearly the cause of their death as a species at our hands and harpoons ...is an oil filled, a sonar reflector dish and sonic lens.. Long range multi role and focusable it can also focus a burst of sound so powerful it can stun or kill fish and squid they feed on, deep down where they hunt in the crushing deep darkness. They've even been known to chomp down on deep ocean cables ..possibly mistaking them for their favourite food the giant squids 🦑 arms. From what ive read and heard being pinged by one of these big boys or girls is a bit like standing infront a speaker tower at an early Deep purple concert when someone accidently unplugs at 11 😵😬 Or a bell in a bag of jelly being hit repeatedly 😬🤣😂🤣 Humbacks are smaller and sweeter and calves especially can be Orca prey. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYyCpaWdk6XOk7w.html But there's always a different intelligence at work behind that eye. 👁️🥰 kzread.info6B6v_68MPWk?feature=share

LOVE LOVE LOVE this video. Information and positivity. Learning and educating oneself is always the preferred way to get over worry or fear. Love how you laid this out with real information and how you dissuade do negativity like dumping chemicals on them. You guys are truly wonderful and I am so glad that you put out an informational video on the Orca's. Seeing how the Orca's here in SE Alaska learn behavior quickly, I am thinking along the lines of the woman you interviewed, they got aggressive as a learned behavior in response to humans doing something to them and then teaching rest of the family about it. Thank you again for putting out education instead of fear!

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this comment Anna, it's really lovely to receive some positivity! We totally agree. They are extremely intelligent animals, there's a lot to learn about them and we believe knowledge is key here for helping orcas and sailboats coexist! Yes it would definitely make sense as a theory, especially as the behaviour only started a couple of years ago, something must have triggered it. Hope you're well, all our best - Jade & Brynn

This woman knows what she is talking about. Kudos for her

Beautifully done. Thank you and I adore the love and respect that you show for these amazing creatures.

Really great info on the Orca interactions with small boats. I live in Ferrol in Galicia and it's so good you did this video and included the official advice. Love the channel! ⛵😁👍

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Stefan, really glad you're enjoying our channel 😄

Good video mates. I must admire you because you took the time to find out about this phenomenon. Other videos I've seen by other KZreadrs didn't bother to follow up and were angry at the Orcas. Kudos to you guys.

Awesome video guys, and I love that you’re sharing your experience and researching what is going on in the area! Unfortunately over fishing is a world wide problem and until that changes more interactions like this are possible. I imagine they are saying “ back off it’s my tuna”

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for watching and commenting :) We totally agree with you!

Thank you! Such a brilliant video. You have dealt with facts, kindness and compassion. I have been shocked at those who have suggested harm towards the orca simply because a rudder gets damaged. No one has ever died from a wild orca.

Aside from the objectivity and kindness with which you approach this subject, the best thing about this video is seeking expert advice on what is causing the encounters and how best to deal with them. Learning from those who have studied hundreds of these encounters can't be anything but the best we can do in trying to figure out what the risks are and how to mitigate them. Your videos and the content thereof continue to get better and better. Thanks so much for your efforts.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much David, really appreciate your thoughtful and kind comment. Totally agree, if we have gaps in our knowledge why not seek out others who have spent the time to learn and try to fill those gaps. Hopefully in time researchers figure out a way of managing the risks so that both sailboats and orcas can co exist safely. All our best and take care, Jade & Brynn

Loving your channel & adventures & thanks for this informative video. I read an article the other day saying that if you go in reverse @2/3 knots they don’t attack your rudder ! Might be worth a try if you are unfortunate enough to find yourselves in a similar Orca predicament again.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, really glad you found it informative 😊 yeah we've heard some people say that too. Turning everything off and 'playing dead' seemed to work for us as they then started nudging the keel rather than the rudder. Hopefully we don't have to test it out again 🤞cheers for watching!

Brilliant video. Thank you for taking the time to investigate this and lets work side by side with nature and not do more damage than we already do Really enjoying your channel and I'm looking forward to sharing your amazing adventure

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more! And thanks so much for your comment :) Really glad you're enjoying our channel and happy to have you joining our adventures!

Well done guys very informative, as you say, most boats won’t even see one. Keep up the good work and happy sailing 👍🏻

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard, really glad you found it useful 😊

Great informative video guys! glad you are safe after your interaction! and sharing your experience for others to learn safe ways of handling theses types of situations! x

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hayley! ☺️ Xx

Great info thanks! Postcard came 😎

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! And yay 😬 it's always a gamble if they're gonna show up 😂📮

Glad to hear you make an intelligent defense of the orcas. Fair winds and happy days to you both. Pete

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching and commenting 😁. All the best Brynn and Jade

Brilliantly put! WE are the problem, NOT the Orcas who fully deserve all of the help the world can give them. Keep up the good work and enjoy your adventure! I am not jealous at all..honest! 😂

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much ☺️ haha glad you're enjoying! All our best, Jade & Brynn

This is clearly an area of your passion and expertise. The natural world and your interactions with it via boat could well be your USP?! Kudos

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, we definitely have a lot of love for the sea and the natural world - think you're right and we'll try and include this more in our videos 😁 all the best!

Ruth Esteban; has any behavioural research been conducted regarding (specifically) Tuna (and other fishermen) that have harassed the pods in the region historically - loss of catch - competition issues? (a fellow marine biologist)

Good reason for the full keel blue water yacht .

Amazing Vlog guys...you have educated mist of us no doubt. Thanks for sharing...Excellent Vlog 🤗👍👍🙂🙂🙂

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Patricia! Really glad you found it informative 😁 all our best, Jade & Brynn x

Excellent vid: very informative!

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad it was useful ☺️

I ad another thought Iam trying to get some body to try playing classical music to see if it clams them down. I say this because I’ve seen on KZread classical music played to elephants and they really liked it. My reasoning is that both are mammals with big brains. I so pose you would need a speaker in side the hull but under water.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting idea! As you said, they are intelligent mammals like elephants so I guess it could work. I bet there's people somewhere who have tried it out 🤔

your are correct !! lovely animals but they could be very scary !! I'm sailing from Muros many times and never saw one !! Fair winds south and cheers from Muros ...

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! They should definitely be treated with respect, similar to how other apex predators such as sharks are - amazing animals though. It's the only time we saw them too! Most people we've spoken to haven't seen them on their way down either. Muros is beautiful by the way!

There are certainly a lot of theories about this new and rather frightening behaviour. I am not sure about the reason but I disagree with the idea that they are hunting the boat. I believe that they may have disabled a fishing boat as a response to hostile behaviour... during pandemic times when less policing of the waters was underway. If that boat was then awaiting a tow and had to dump illegal excess catch of fish that was on board then they gain an incentive to the behaviour and begin to make a habit of it... that's my theory anyway. I think some fisherman out there knows the true reason for this sudden change in behaviour patterns. Thank you for your positive outlook. It had really made me sad to see people suggesting throwing dynamite or horrible stuff on the water or shooting the animals. They deserve respect and a large marine reserve to be created in this part of the world... not hostility. Greetings from Portugal!

Brilliant video guys!

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Really glad you enjoyed it :)

So agree with your sentiments, pity its not possible to give a double "like". Really enjoying your channel. I discovered it only recently and have since been burning hours bingeing to catch up.

I was wondering, when you had that fishing net in your prop. You have an outboard engine..no way you can use that as emergency propulsion? Or use your RIB to pull?

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately we don't have any way to mount our outboard to use it that way, it's something we're looking into now though. When the wind died was 3am at the same time as orcas, it wouldn't have been a good decision to attempt to inflate and get into our dinghy in that situation.

If I'll get attacked I throw dynamite in the water.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Wow you carry dynamite onboard? Risky.

The agressive behaviour of orcas is not a recent occurence, less frequent cases have been recorded in the past. for instance in about 1970 an Italian sailing boat "Guia" was attacked in the Atlantic during a regatta. They smashed the hull and the boat sank. The crew were able to open the life raft and were subsequently rescued.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

The aggressive behaviour of Orcas in general isn't a recent occurrence, but the frequency and manner of the incidents in this specific area is highly unusual - that's why everyone's trying to understand what happened to cause it so recently. Will check that out, glad they were rescued!

I hope you don't mind, but I've posted below a comment I left on the KZread post - Ruth Esteban - Killer whales of the Strait of Gibraltar showing a disruptive behaviour - as I think it is/maybe relevant. I did have one thought given that the encounters are almost all sailboats. Could the killer whales perceive Sail Boats as large fish that they think are eating all the tuna sine they are so big compared to them and the reason there is less food around to eat. Thus they want to drive away a rival for food. Sail boats have a distinct fish like shape underwater. They have a large fin sticking down (the keel) and have a tail fin (the rudder). They do not have the sound of a ship with its large engine sound. A sail boat with its sails up is a very quiet mover through the water compared to that. Another thing a sail boat does not have and may confirm to the whales that they are rival fish for food is they have no propeller turbulence etc which every Killer Whale must know and Recognise. I've not seen this view said on the videos I've watched, BUT I'm sure it has been said by others.

Hello from France ! This is the smartest topic about the orcas around Spain I never see on UT ! Thank you ! I use to follow your channel and your adventure since the beginning now and I like very much your honnesty and your way of life altogether. Don't change anything dudes !!!! 🤙

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Bonjour! Thank you very much for your kind comment, really glad that you're enjoying our channel 😊 Cheers, and all the best from sunny Spain! Jade & Brynn

Orcas are super intelligent, my theory is they know that boats take the fish that they rely on for survival so they are trying to get the boats away. Stop over fishing the seas so there is enough food for them- humans have other food choices!!

@davidwaldheim1147

Жыл бұрын

I'm impressed! Wonder if the experts have considered that possibility.

@tristanheaton2127

Жыл бұрын

Maby but orcas have been know to also steal from fishing boats

I read an article a couple years ago about a guy sailing singlehanded from California to Hawaii. A pod of Orcas approached. An apparently angry male sank the man's boat. He was adrift in a life raft for quite a while before being rescued as he had been traveling outside the shipping lanes. He thought the male was protecting a female.

very informative and a sad situation with the whales

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it useful John, we agree. Hoping things get better for our oceans in general. Thanks for watching 👍

Great informative vid guys. But I have to wonder why anyone would think dumping oil or chemicals into the water is OK orcas or not

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Maria! We agree, must admit we were very shocked at the suggestions we received. We were concerned considering these responses came from people who live on the sea or spend time in it - and should definitely not want to pollute it or kill the life there!

@cornishhh

2 жыл бұрын

Because if your boat is sunk you and your crew stand a good chance of dying.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

No boats have sunk because of these orcas. There are plenty of man made dangers that do sink boats though such as shipping containers, should we ban cargo ships? The sea is full of dangers. Acting in a hostile way wont solve this situation we dont believe, and attacking an endangered species and tipping pollutants overboard is also illegal.

@cornishhh

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents No boats may have been sunk by these orcas but plenty of boats have been over the years. I'm not advocating immediate hostile action; just pointing out the fact that if lives are endangered IMO you need to do what you can in order to survive. Yes, shipping containers can and do sink boats but shipping containers don't attack you. I think this is a good video in that it indicates how to behave in ways that are most likely to prevent or minimise attacks but if the attacks continue and your boat is in danger of sinking, what do you do? You could allow the boat to be sunk and take to a liferaft, if you have time to deploy it. Maybe the whales would leave you alone then. Maybe they wouldn't. You could pour oil or chemicals into the sea and it may antagonise the whales and prolong the attack. I'm not wanting to be disagreeable, and I hope neither you nor anybody else ever has to make these choices. What you did worked out well and that's great.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

We appreciate where you're coming from, and there's definitely a fine line between needlessly harming these animals and defending yourself. We personally do not think Orcas sinking boats in this area is a likely risk right now, or at least enough to be concerned about. These attacks in this area account for less than 1% of the thousands and thousands that sail this route, there are so many other concerns - in fact more boats crash into whales and kill them and damage their own boat than the amount of boats that these orcas have been damaging. There's of course no harm in talking about 'what ifs' and doing what you need to do in order to survive, the problem is people are talking about pre-emptive measures such as Orca culls - rather than protecting yourself if your lives are endangered. Thanks for commenting and watching 👍

Great info guys!!!!!! I still reckon they didn't like your impression of a Air Hostess Brynn!!!

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul! You could be right there 😂😂😂

Was this happening a lot before Covid? If it wasn’t would a possible theory be the Orcas got use to less boats and the peace during Covid. Now the boats are back could they possibly trying to fight to remove the boats as they’ve had a taste of life without them.

more understanding is needed,, so is some form of protection

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

We agree!

bad weater can also hit you so be alert always and enjoy your lives greet and love from holland.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

This is very true 👍, thank you for watching and commenting 😁. All our best Brynn and Jade

Them insisting on only tuna to eat, reminds me of my cats! 😜

The fishermen were spanish NOT Gibraltarian the Spanish keep invading British waters. At the end of the Day the ocean is THEIR home. Been watching u guys since u came to Gib luv ur vids♥️ pls keep safe and have a great christmas✌️♥️🇬🇮

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Yep we totally agree! It's their home and we are just guests :) Aw thanks so much! Really glad you're enjoying our videos 😁 You stay safe too, have a great Christmas! 👍🎄

@debdeb1637

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents 💯☃️🌲♥️✌️🇬🇮

Those are crazy statistics.... Pacific Bottlenose Dolphin popped up my rudder on my16 foot proa between Maui and the Big Island. Pacific's are about 30% larger than Atlantic bottlenoses. This was just a single animal. Seemed like it was just mischief....maybe bored or lonely....hungry....I didnt have anything to feed it. It was swimming upside down looking at me right away every time it popped the rudder, a modified Tornado rudder head and deeper blade than for a cat.. Seemed like a game....funny incident. Orcas are so big that would be a scary thing. Too easy to break things. I think they dig FINS.....were just playing too rough. Weird so many in one place though....

Hi, I have been a fisherman, a sailor for over 50 years, and been around orcas more than the scientists for sure. No doubt the orcas are very friendly until you hurt one. Someone hurt an orca, most likely a fishermen, the orcas. Can take their catch while bringing it. In but a boat could have hit an orca unlikely, though I say a fishermen hurt a orca...

Orcas aren't the only defense wilderness/nature has to defend itself. Man should be ware and respect nature.

It appears that they are trying to help an upside down relative swim properly the right way up 🤣🤣 or maybe it is an attack and they don't like the way it looks (Yacht)

Bro, your braids are adorable! Do you do it yourself? It's strange, I do all sorts of exercises and activities no problems, but for some reason braiding my own hair kills my shoulders. Also, and whales and stuff.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks. Jade does them for me, wouldn't have a clue how to do em on myself 😅 agree with the hurting the shoulders too!

Let’s hope they don’t get you again , protecting them doesn’t help if they attack you, the bit I did find useful was the migration months which maybe can be avoided

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, we hope not too! It doesn't help if you get attacked, however we believe protecting them or at least understanding them could stop them attacking in the first place. Preventive measures and knowing what to do would help minimise the attacks in the first place or minimise the damage. Glad you found some part of it useful 👍

Well said guys

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Hugh 😊

New subscriber here.I like your videos👋⛵⚓

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching and subscribing 😁

It’s very simple…. ()-\_______/ sorry I can’t draw the hull of a sail boat here u can the example above is enough. The rudder looks like a large tuna’s tail. The color of most bottom pain any the boat being under sail still make the similar sound and shape and vibration of a swimming fish… 1 + 1 equals 2.

Brilliant video, great advice 😎🌊⛵️🐟🙏🏼

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thank you so much and thank you for commenting 😁. All our best Brynn and Jade

I wonder if humanity could "farm" raise blue fin tuna to increase the orca food source? Also I think the intelligence and communication skills of orcas, along with collective memories that are apparently passed on are very detrimental to all humans, not just the individuals who hurt them.

Respect your views but I’m not sure I would be quite so sanguine had my boat been damaged requiring a tow in haul out yard fees rudder repairs/replacement and time lost perhaps costing many thousands of pounds and perhaps ending your sailing season or even for those on a tight budget as I’m sure there are many, the costs incurred being prohibitive meaning the loss of your boat .

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

We are on a very tight budget, we required a tow which wiped out our entire saved money for the season. It wasn't a lot compared to what the damage was for other vessels with broken rudders of course which are very grateful for. We agree, we'd also have been devastated. However it wouldn't of made us think any differently towards Orcas, whose home boats have been cruising through and destroying for years, if anything we see it as an opportunity to help sailboats coexist better with these creatures. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍

@paulkopp3634

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents Thanks for the reply . While I agree with you on the whole, surely the damage to habitat is mostly due to commercial sea traffic and I not to cruising sail boats which are the least damaging in terms of pollution energy usage and so on but are the most vulnerable to these attacks . I think that sailing cruisers are the most acutely aware of their impact on the environment and are always looking for more sustainable and less polluting ways of producing the energy they need to enjoy their chosen lifestyle. Commercial users on the other hand will have little interest as it has no effect on them or their business .

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Yes we agree with you. Whilst we also on the whole believe sailing cruisers to be more aware of their impact, we have been taken aback by the amount of cruisers that in response to these orcas have thrown diesel overboard, ammonia, even spoken to us about an Orca cull and stating that if it happened to them they would attempt to injure them. That's the main reason we felt the urge to make this video. Though we could likely have zero impact on commercial users, we'd hope that some people who like our channel may at least take on board what we say before damaging an already endangered population. Cheers!

nature is fighting back.

The orcas “steal” tuna 🤦🏽‍♀️ seriously 😂

Orcas are wild animals !! The oceans are their environment. When WE enter their environment, we do so as privileged guests. So respect their environment. One way to do this is, maybe, having caught your fish, DO NOT throw the unused parts back into the sea. Seal them up tightly store them with your other garbage and dispose of it at your next landfall. Barnacle Bern SY Cadbri SW Wales.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

We agree! 👍

My theory is they are bored and have found a new game. SAILBOAT TIPPING! : ) I've sailed the coast of Alaska for over 20years and have never had a bad experience with Orcas or Grey whales even though I have had them come close enough to spray everyone in the cockpit when they blow I never had one touch the boat.

@achitophel5852

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe because you're not decimating their food supplies. Funny what starvation will drive intelligent creatures to.

@timothywootton5331

Жыл бұрын

So you didn't hear the part of this video where the nice scientist lady was saying how some sports fisherman injured two individuals in this Orca family.

Agreed, humans are the species that one should be more worried about 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⛵️⚓️

@lungarotta

2 жыл бұрын

This does not help you much when you find yourself in a small boat being attacked by orcas.

@777rogerf

Жыл бұрын

Right. There were once 400 fish canneries in that region because there was mot limit on fishing, so they were fished until there were none left to reproduce. Orcas are smart. They are mammals, but that can't speak in human languages. They hope that friendly human will say, "The orcas are chewing on rudders to let us know that humans are destroyed local species here and everywhere, and they do not care if we starve. Please help us."

From the very very little legitimate information I can find, scientists don’t know why the (from everything I’ve seen juvenile orcas) are damaging rudders of sailboats. The scientists say they don’t know but they hypothesize that the orcas like the water pressure from running propellers, and are confused when sailboats don’t have engines running, yet from what I’ve seen on you tube the sailors seem to say they encounter these orcas while motoring because of lack of wind, and the advice they are given is to turn off their motors. I’m very interested for someone with experience to actually study this and find out why it’s happening. We have a huge orca population in BC Canada yet I haven’t heard of similar interactions with orcas (specifically juveniles) as if adults wanted to sink your sailboat they would and are quite capable of doing so. I’m no marine biologist by any means but I know In BC there is no shortage of food for them really, I have zero knowledge of the straight of Gibraltar myself or what kind of food the orcas have in that area or why they are even there. I wish I could find more info on this, legitimate studies by marine biologists, there must be a reason for why it’s occurring, and I don’t think it’s the fault of any sailors or their boats, and it must be terrifying, to risk having your steering wrecked or your boat potentially sunk. I’m curious as to why it only seems to be juveniles (which is very fortunate for the people on the sailboats) but I can see it turning into a real problem for the orcas if something can’t be figured out. If I’m on a boat I’m choosing my life and my families over an orcas, I’m not saying I want anything bad to happen to them at all, just some real research needs to be done and hopefully find a solution to the problem, for both the orcas and the people, as we have just as much right to live on and explore the oceans as they do, if that’s what we choose to do with our lives.

I don't understand what this situation has to do with conservation.

@ChasingCurrents

Жыл бұрын

Sorry not quite sure what you mean?

@ellasoes8325

Жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents Just that, I see the situation and that the marine authorities are aware and are speculating and trying to understand what's the cause of the behavior of the orcas vis à vis their encounters with and persistence in interacting with boats. From there, the video narration starts referencing conservation. I am saying I do not necessarily see a logical link with conservation based on the latter description of what I saw and understood.

@ChasingCurrents

Жыл бұрын

@@ellasoes8325 The logical link is that they are an endangered species. When an event happens, and it creates petitions to cull a species though they've caused zero deaths (at least as recorded in the wild) - I think it's obvious that it's a conservation issue. Many of the possible explanations put forward have included environmental changes, human effects on marine life, food scarcity. All of which are in the topic of conservation.

Love the ocean, protect her

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more 💙

Most not mist 😂👍🤗

Its because they were attacked. They are more intelligent than we are, they deal with learned behavior so the young Orcas would know this.

Sorry but if my boat was being attacked by whales, the engine will be turned on straight away. I think the advise given is totally wrong

@christopherrayner3710

2 жыл бұрын

What makes you come to that conclusion Rob? ,Do you have some evidence that a running motor deters these interactions,it's an honest question, it must be a pretty scary event, and not one I would particularly relish.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

That's fair enough Rob, however statistics have shown that the boats that sustained the worse damage were the ones that tried to drive away. You cant outrun these animals, and if their aim is to stop you it's better to do it yourself rather than them disabling your rudder. That's our thoughts anyway, you're entitled to your own of course 👍 all we can say is our engine was off and we sustained no damage, 3 boats we spoke to tried to drive away and had a damaged rudder.

@paulreading8980

2 жыл бұрын

The current advice is to put the boat into reverse. Apparently they don’t like the propeller coming at them.

How you do not have video of orcas?

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

1. It was the middle of the night (we do not have cameras that are functional at night) 2. There was a thick fog, fishing vessels around us. 3. We were stressed and trying to be completely silent so they left us alone, the last thing on our mind was filming them.

@maxmeridius2947

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents your friend video at time don't also see orcas 🤔

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxmeridius2947 Huh?

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxmeridius2947 ohh I get it, youre saying we lied about it 😂 cool 👍 go check out Orca Iberica website, at the exact same time we were there, there were loads of Orca interactions. Hilarious if you think we'd pay £1500 for a rescue we don't need 😂

protection / defence

Fully agree with your approach to this issue. Conservation is the answer to most problems regarding human interactions with the ocean and nature in general. Keep the course! Cheers!

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thank you so much, very well said. We do feel the natural world does need protecting. Hopefully as we travel we might be able to.do our little part to help with this. All our best Brynn and Jade

@alxlej

Жыл бұрын

why, though? over 99% of all species that have ever existed have gone extinct. so, it's not always "us" who's endangering species. the idea of conservation and rescuing animals is a relatively new thing. the animals that people want to keep from going extinct are big, have cute eyes, or look awesome. you know, elephants, tigers, orcas, colorful birds. i have never encountered anyone who said, "man, i would be devastated if ticks died out." that, to me, seems a bit hypocritical. they're part of nature, too, aren't they? it also works the other way around, kind of. a city is a paradise for rats, for example. i'm not saying that, without "us", rats would go extinct. but we surely are not decimating their numbers. quite the opposite. and even though we build and do a lot of "unnatural" things, such as cities or airplanes, we are part of nature, too. i realize that this is an unpopular opinion. however, if you take a step back and look at the bigger picture over time, it certainly is not unusual for species to go extinct. in fact, it is highly unusual for species to not go extinct. darwin oversimplified in a nutshell: adapt or die. as sad as it may be, nature will always run its course. and that, undoubtedly, means extinction. resistance is futile. ;)

2:49 bloke in the background lol

BTW we have something else in common... 😘... Some say the view is crazy but you might take a different point of view .... Pick up a packhorse here..... You will find the clue in Bowies song 😉

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

😮😮 are you also from our neck of the woods 👀👀

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents Blackcountry rock kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZOJzMqOaJTckdI.html ..is the Bowie song, apart from some time in Plymouth and Glastonbury close enough to know a ⚓ hallmark accent .😂👍🏻 Also follow Sailing Melody..🤞🏻 "We still remember In this far land beneath the trees, The starlight on the Western Sea's.." JRRT. 🤫

Call in the Japan whaling boat they can take care of your problem. I know you will Waite until they kill a couple of people then you might do something.

It’s the end of the world as we once knew it people.

Orcas pretty smart animals, we take their food and pollute their home. No wonder they associate boats with dheads.

Orca are highly intelligent, familly pods tend to be dominated by matriarch's like elephants on land they have their own local cultures and behaviours they tend to fall into two clans. The fish hunters tend to active sonar hunters ....the clans that tend to specialise in hunting marine mammals ..are naturally more silent and all teach active hunting strategies and learned knowledge and behaviours. You are dealing with an apex mammal ..that has the mass, power, inteligence and social cultural capacity of Elephants (ask someone who works with them how dangerous they can be if crossed) but the hunting capacities of a timber wolf pack. They do not forget they pass on learning and learned behaviour through their pods and the matriarch's. Their food supply is threatened ... look at the state of the Med and near Atlantic waters now, compared to what Jacque Cousteau first recorded in the 60s and 70s. Since 1976 when i chose to start studying Environmental sciences the human population has doubled. Its grown exponentially... meantime weve dumped chemicals, sewage and plastics into rivers and coastal waters without a thought too often. Look up the toxin levels and cancer rates in Beluga in the St Laurence sea way. There's also the noise pollution of the marine environment...remember these animals principly communicate and ”see"with sound ... You enter the water with a dolphin or whale and they can literally see right through you... they can see and hear your heart beat, your breathing your stomach and if its full or empty ...and if your male or female ...even then ladies if you're pregnant. Ultrasound is their super sense.... Blue whales and such are the loudest voices on earth they in quieter times could bounce low frequency songs off deep ocean saline and temperature layers that would have transited even the Pacific.. now it must be like being cut off by walls of white noise..😢 If I was looking for this pod I would be looking out into the Atlantic either round the Azores or heading North into offshore fish migration and feeding grounds.🤔 Amongst the tribes of the pacific NW their are myth stories of Orca ...they are Totem spirits... They can help and care but they also have another god form who can be vengeful. Given the disturbed behaviour of these pods further aggression will only result in tragidy for them and perhaps innocent people we are the aliens in their world. How might sailors de escalate these encounters🤔 ....it might be worth trying a form of communication. Elephants and most Ceatians respond to sound and music especially the right kinds .... take a look at Animals especially elephants that use ultra sound reacting to calming music and especially low resonate frequencies produced by the likes of Digerydoos .. and long strings. If you can distract them and teach them your interesting and know how to behave and are not a problem they might decide to differentiate between passing friends and possible threats. 🤞🏻⚓🤔 A good teacher learns from their pupils ... and adapts their way to benefit both.🏞️🌊🐬🐋

@olekebollekemololekebollek7215

2 жыл бұрын

Thank You for this wonderful and insightful explanation

@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665

2 жыл бұрын

@@olekebollekemololekebollek7215 Thank you for listening.... Orcas do play with boats in other parts of the world and even other with animals but they are highly intelligent apex predators and some have personalities as humans do ... that are sometimes not so acceptable. Male Elephants in Must...their breeding state are notoriously cranky and aggressive.. even if domesticated. Mothers and Matriarch's will see off even these if they threaten the herd or calves. If a herd looses its adults due to poachers particularly its older females then the juvenile's form their own herd.. but its more like a teenage gang, these lacking the control and experience of elders have a bad reputation for destructive crop raiding and other delinquent behaviours. Akin to PTSD. With Elephants unless they can be relocated they ( humans) have instituted policies of shooting whole herds to avoid this. 😖 Let's not let this situation go in that direction... we have taken and carved up the land and degraded much of that..the Seas and the air connect us all and everything in them... we almost wiped out the great whales and blue fin tuna (itself a significant sub apex predator..) Now even the shark's are threatend in many places by illegal fishing and shark nets. Remove the key predators from an ecosystem and the whole ecosystem shifts balance and usually for the worse. Carbon fiber, fiber glass foam cores and thin wood core rudders must feel like giant pringles to these guys...😉 I cannot understand why more boats dont use shrouded props. also perhaps boat need more robust protected rudders...swimmers and marine life. Unless your only going racing🤔 .. plastic Fishing nets, lines and parifinalia make up a significant proportion of marine, hazardous macro waste; certainly in European waters and many others from what im seeing thats to wildlife and navigators when they are not running over their own lines 😁🤫😉 Whales, dolphins, Seals, otters sharks and turtles all face drowning starvation and mutilation from so called lost Ghost nets and lines. Time to start thinking and acting better... or we or our children that will loose next ... thats already happening. How many of those costal villages, towns, cities, beaches and low lying Islands you travelers share with us be lost as sea levels rise. Finding freshwater and local food will also be more difficult. as sea water penetrates much, much further inland than the surface water of the sea... killing crops and less salt tolerant species. 🤔 Making any settled human life more difficult to impossible AND visitors. 🌀🌬️🌊🌪️🌏🌎🌍 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dammz9CFe8zRqaw.html

Scary stuf, I think i would feel much safer on a steel boat with a steel rudder.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, we'd probably agree with you there!

There is a little flaw with the safety protocol regarding orcas encounters as exposed in this video, it's bollocks, doesn't work.

@ChasingCurrents

Жыл бұрын

Worked for us and others we were cruising with at the time 👍

@pierrevanhalteren5733

Жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents OK good to know, many others recently had their rudder damaged while strictly applying that protocol. It would be good if some statictics were held but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for those. This issue seems to me amazingly badly managed, and I am tempted to use capital letters for the "amazingly".

this is not usual behavior. this is worrying.

Which is it? An Orca ‘interaction’ or an ‘attack’? You’ve used both adjectives and they have very different meanings. I’m sympathetic with the live and let live idea, but certainly not to the point of allowing rouge aberrant behaviour to be ignored, adulated or promulgated. Lions that got a taste for humans were called man-killers and shot. I’m not advocating that just yet, but let’s not get our luvvy-huggy ideas obscure a potential issue.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Because it's both interactions and 'attacks', Not every interaction leads to damage, the same way swimming with sharks and them nudging into us we would consider an interaction, and them biting us we would consider an attack. If they bit us would we condone a shark cull? Personally, absolutely not. Clearly nobody is ignoring the behaviour, the government is taking it extremely seriously and the sailing community here is also taking it extremely seriously. I believe we will have very different views to you, in that a population already reduced to 50 by humanity does not pose as much of a risk to us by damaging sailboats as we do to them by wiping out their existence. Plenty of people are defending the sailing community over the issue which is good, and those that care deeply about the ocean (our home) are also defending any 'rogue' behaviour from humans, such as injuring the orcas. It doesn't have to be choose a side, exclusion zones are reducing the damages - just coexist alongside the orcas as solutions are developed. Thanks for commenting 👍

@mikehurley5052

2 жыл бұрын

We are in their world, we are the intruders. Mankind has stuffed this planet and now all creatures are fighting for survival due to humans greed for everything. The world will survive, humans wont, nature will see us all out. Good vid guys.

@ianclarke8821

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikehurley5052 respectfully, we are all in ‘this world’ but I agree it is their domain. Personally I try to live harmoniously with all creatures. However orcas learn and pass on behaviour being very the intelligent creatures they are. I’m mad about cats and dogs too - but if one mauls a person I don’t use the argument they are returning to their wolf like ancestry. My concern is this atypical behaviour may escalate and be passed on. The romantic argument that animals are fighting back is poetic and if true who could blame them? But when life is threatened by individuals I’d have zero hesitation in seeing them culled. We’re not there yet, and perhaps the exclusion zones and other measures will work. I imagine if a great white took up hunting off Brighton and took some swimmers we might not be so ready with the self immolation. Then again your argument is still valid.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Respect your point of view Ian, though unsurprisingly we disagree! Sharks do attack (not in Brighton, but not sure why Brighton is any different than the US or Australia) yet we still wouldn't say to cull them all. Swimmers are simply told not to swim there, and do not have an issue with this. We are under the view that if you want to swim in the sea, that doesn't then give you the right to wipe out everything that lives there in order to do so. Similar, if you want to sail in the sea that doesn't give you the right to wipe out the life that's there due to damaging less than 1% of passing vessels - that's just not proportionate in our opinion. If a dog did maul a person, would you then be under the mindset that all dogs in the local area should be killed? Orcas are individuals, they do have the ability to pass on behaviour - but killing things out of what might happen in our opinion is a very dangerous mindset. Orcas are stopping sailboats. They aren't killing people, they aren't drowning people in the Gibraltar strait. Do you really think that monetary damage to sailboats is equal to taking intelligent creatures lives?

@ianclarke8821

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents yes, but like I said: ‘we’re not there yet’ and agreed with the exclusion zones. Don’t jump to conclusions just because I’m not 100% with your viewpoint. I’m highlighting two issues… the first is over romanticism and the second is future risk. Just to reiterate; at the moment I have no issues with the current measures and a lot of sympathy and respect for the seas’ inhabitants. If they turn deadly then and only then would I advocate culling.

The music was super distracting

What stupid people, thinking that pouring oil or ammonia, or any polluting substance in the water would do any good in anyway! I would say, better to sail way off shore.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thank you for watching and commenting 😁. It does seem that avoiding areas where they are most common is the best solution so far. Since the government introduced the exclusion zones the interactions dropped significantly. Hopefully in the future we will be able to do this more to avoid more boats being damaged and give the orcas space also. Fingers crossed for more solutions, all our best Brynn and Jade

I have Chinese friends that said hunting Orcas off of Spain and Portugal. Helps them stay at sea longer. Chinese ships that you would never suspect of being able to catch and process Killer Whales are quite numerous. And they say they are quite tasty to. Before anyone judges them, consider the margins they work under.

@ShiningGalaxy01

Жыл бұрын

@FIDDLEBACK !!! "Killer Whales are quite numerous", There is only 50,000 of them left in the world(47,000 Transients left, 2,000 Residents left, 1,000 Offshores left). Orcas are endangered, do to overfishing, poaching, pollution, military sonars, and seaworld. Tell your Chinese friend to go back to his Communist 💩hole, that is causing so much death to marine life by pollution. Bloody Communist China is capturing Infant Orcas to perform in marine parks, and also killing off many of their pods. Communist China is also known to skinned animals alive, and torture dogs to death for meat in the Yulin festival. China is an evil Marxist country.

If you think they are harmless maybe you should have tried to swim with them?

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Can you highlight where we said they are harmless in the video? Also absolutely loads of people swim with orcas.

Its their word not ours

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Thank you so.much for watching and commenting 😁

@richardholbrook9681

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I like watching people living the dream.

What was once the home of fish, marine mammals and bird life is now the biggest toilet and dumping place for all manner of toxic mess. Intelligent animals are going to strike back. Might be interesting to know the Hull colour of the vessels attacked and average length?

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thank you for watching and commenting 😁. Hopefully things will get better in the future, we dont think the oceans can be used as they are for much longer. After talking to the researchers it seem hull colour and size isn't a factor when looking at the statistics of boats attacked. Unfortunately Its still unknown why its happening, just theories at this stage - let's hope more information or solutions are found soon! All our best Brynn and Jade

Simple truth is they are more important than us. Glad to hear your approach. Amazed that people suggest pouring oil or ammonia in the water!! My take is its most likely electronics especially sonar or radar. Ps why on earth are you wearing masks outside... we’ve gotta break this cycle of needless fear.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Yep you'd be suprised how many people! We still get comments regularly about how we should remove all of the orcas from the ocean, kind of spurred us to make a video with some researchers speaking who have more knowledge that us to shed some light. Yep could also be sonar or radar! The restrictions were very strict over here in Spain - the researcher insisted on wearing a mask to speak to us in close proximity so we respected her and did the same, no big deal. Thanks for commenting and all the best!

@AthelstanEngland

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingCurrents thanks for the reply.

In some places whale, work with fishermen for many years in exchange for a portion of the catch, when a different fisherman did not give back a portion the whale sunk their boat . So don’t piss them off!

Would your view on this subject been different?, had your vessel been damaged causing your travel plans to be put on hold. Insurance might pay for most of your repairs, but you would still be out of pocket by thousands. Your home while being repaired, may become uninhabitable and your sailing/cruising season finished for the year. Would you still laugh it off, or shrug? There is a lot more at steak than just a couple of boats being harassed by a couple of whales. These whales copy and learn from each other.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Simon, our view wouldn't of been any different. If you watched our video where we actually had the orcas come to our boat in the middle of the foggy night, you'd know that we definitely weren't laughing or shrugging it off. Our insurance would pay for nothing, we weren't insured for crossing the bay of Biscay - and we did have to pay 1500 euros in rescue fees (almost our entire cruising budget) so we're confident in our opinions. We wouldn't swim in shark infested waters, get bit by a shark and then somehow blame the shark if we chose to be there. The risks are minimal, but always there - the same with the orcas. We certainly know a lot more boats that passed through the area that didn't even see an orca than those that were attacked by one. It doesn't make it any less concerning for the sailboats that are attacked, we totally agree with you it's a concern. However we personally trust those behaviourists that have spent their entire life studying these creatures, and the volunteers with Orca Iberica dedicating all their time to managing the risks. Curious to know what your solution would be? All the best, Brynn & Jade

Masked up outdoors on a boat.......... I'm done.

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

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let the japanese harpoon a few hundred for scientific research into the reason -

Don't do politics on your channel (i am gone)

@ChasingCurrents

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure this isn't political, care to expand?

@epcode5121

2 жыл бұрын

Never saw any talk on politics, just boats safety and avoiding harm to boats and Orcas. With respect and understand to these great big mammals.

get the mask off

@ChasingCurrents

Жыл бұрын

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