Optical Might Be Better Than HDMI ARC For You... Here's Why

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When should you use a Digital Optical Cable instead of HDMI ARC or eARC? In this video we'll look at the pros and cons of each connection type and what to do when ARC is giving you problems. HDMI eARC gives you the best audio formats such as Dolby Atmos and DTS X. How do you connect Digital Optical? What about HDMI Fibre Cables? All these things will be covered. When HDMI ARC is not working well there are ways to combine Optical and HDMI together to keep the control over the Soundbar or Home Theatre System from the TV remote.
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0:00 Optical VS HDMI ARC
0:20 Digital Optical
2:44 HDMI ARC
4:05 HDMI eARC
4:47 HDMI + Optical
5:09 Which Cable To Use?

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  • @bassinbillRC5300
    @bassinbillRC53005 ай бұрын

    A Toslink cable is what I used on my older Pioneer VSX-D508 in our living room. It impressed my buddy while watching Mr. Brooks using DTS decoding from the DVD. Now I am using the same optical digital toslink cable from our Samsung UHDTV 50" flatscreen to our Vizio soundbar. Very good sound with NO hum nor RF interference of any kind. Never knew this format came out in 1985. Still a good idea to use today.

  • @DavidMander-rs4uk

    @DavidMander-rs4uk

    3 ай бұрын

    I still use a Pioneer VSX-C301 and have all my devices hooked up via optical...Does me in my small flat with neighbours and very little space, HD and 5.2 (have extra sub, same Teac brand) Dolby Digital, DTS is all i need so high resolution would be wasted on me!

  • @allisonclark6642
    @allisonclark6642 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Josh, I have a Sony 2011 KDL46Ex520 television and for the past 2 days have been trying every troubleshooting idea to connect a Yamaha ATS-2090 sound bar. Thanks to your video I have used the optical cable and now everything works. Thank you so much 😊

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome that you could get it all working! Happy to help Allison 😊

  • @DaveTinNY
    @DaveTinNY5 ай бұрын

    Informative video. I was wondering about the old, reliable optical cables.... I recently upgraded from an old, 2004 Pioneer 7.1 non-HDMI receiver... a unit with all RCA connections. That old. With that receiver, I used an optical cable for years... The sound started dropping out so I recently bought a Pioneer DSX-935, 7.2 receiver, equipped with HDMI 4K and 8K capabilities (for my 8K TV) and of course, the eARC return. What a pleasure! I bi-amped the towers with the Surround Backs and run the system in 5.1. Sounds and looks superb.

  • @jonathanwiliams4993
    @jonathanwiliams49934 ай бұрын

    Very, very good informative video! Thank you. I have all my devices using HDMI to my TV but optical from my TV to my audio receiver. It was really just happenstance from the ages of my components, but it sounds like I have the best designed system, and I didn't even realize it! Sweet.

  • @Alfred_Pennyworth
    @Alfred_Pennyworth Жыл бұрын

    If you want Atmos then you need eARC not Optical, otherwise there’s not much difference. Despite what people say very few can actually hear any difference anyway. Many say they can but blind testing proves otherwise.

  • @peteowen3539
    @peteowen3539 Жыл бұрын

    My Sonos Playbar words superbly with the optical link. Years ago I bought a Van Den Hul cable.

  • @Noobmaster-mk9mg
    @Noobmaster-mk9mg Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man you covered that very well and I learned from this video!

  • @magnusproenca
    @magnusproenca Жыл бұрын

    Hi. Congratulations for the your channel!! It's very good!! I have a Yamaha RX V683 receiver, and a LG CX 55 conected in ARC mode. When i try to define DSP setup in other modes that STRAIGHT, the AV receiver show "Not avaliable" and not change for the other sound modes. How i can have a solution for this case? Thank you.

  • @craigarnold1212
    @craigarnold1212 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice overall view of the issues. I often find optical the best work around even if I have to use an audio remote and a tv remote. I did this with a mid 90's Sony 5.1 receiver and 4 diffferent TV's from an NAD cathode to an LG C8. While it could handle mp3 it did not work at all with mp4 the C8 can send down it to the reciever even with optical. I kinda knew it probably did not have the codec but I got 25 years out of that system. I updated to a sound bar which allowed me to get more exotic with where the TV could be and had issues as it would only work if things were plugged in a certain way. Unfortunately the sound and speed of changing a tv channel or skipping things while watching recordings got clipping via HDMI where optical plays nice and quick. But no 7.2. But the C8 does not even have arc. So that will have to wait till I update to another tv. This one is basically used for sports, not movies, where I do a fair amount of time shifting to the live stream.

  • @raven4k998

    @raven4k998

    Жыл бұрын

    sounds like optical just needs an upgrade since it can be upgraded to handle more then copper🤔

  • @gorkman5697

    @gorkman5697

    4 ай бұрын

    I need help please .I have samsung hw-q990b sound bar and vestel tv .My tv doesnt have atmos optıon.so far I connected wıth Hdmı .my tv and sound bar has arc Which one is better .I didnt try optic cable yet,İs optic cable better.will ı get atmos sound.I dont even know how atmos sounds like And on tv which options I should enable .They mantion about the passthrough or Pcm when ı watched on other videos I will appriacte if you can help me ,Sorry my english is not good , Thank you

  • @darkdeath174
    @darkdeath174 Жыл бұрын

    I'm in the weird world of needing audio extractor for HDMI 2.1, as the series x has issues with digital audio. There aren't so many of them and they all have different price ranges and most don't even have stuff released in Canada.

  • @deepblueskyK
    @deepblueskyK Жыл бұрын

    Like mentioned in the video's description: This is just a workaround for people who have problems with their HDMI-Arc connection. Anyway, there is still a severe downside when using an optical connection if you want to enjoy any of those modern 3d sound formats. Optical doesn't provide enough bandwith for Atmos, DTS:X or Auro. I just hope there will be a 'better' standard for HDMI-eArc in the future that makes connecting soundsystems and TVs/ streaming devices less of a pain to deal with.

  • @caliginousmoira8565

    @caliginousmoira8565

    Жыл бұрын

    is it really a bandwidth issue... all the fiber being run to replace the 'old' trunk cables works better right...?

  • @Arrozconchopsticks

    @Arrozconchopsticks

    Жыл бұрын

    Another standard to where I would have to dump the earc 4k/8k receiver I haven't even bought yet. 🙄

  • @zeroa69

    @zeroa69

    Жыл бұрын

    You can still transmit dtsx over optical if you are playing from a pc. The dts app decodes the signal before sending it out so that the receiver so the older reciver simpily sees it as dts and runs ot as such. Killer workound for those with htpc setups on older gear.my yamaha rx750 works perfectly and sounds way to good for me to upgrade just to get the newest version of native dolby atmos and dts. I have no intention of buying atmos speakers at this time when i already have a system worth around 3k that sounds magnificent as is. Even more so when i can just run presence speakers above my tv which was the precurser to atmos in the first place effectively doing the same thing without having to upfire.

  • @Synthematix

    @Synthematix

    Жыл бұрын

    Use toslink optical, it was designed from the ground up for audio, it can work with 96KHz audio and is immune from electrical noise, as you are electrically decoupling the audio signal from the mains

  • @josephmartinez7363

    @josephmartinez7363

    2 ай бұрын

    In my experience, I have Pioneer receiver pioneer vsx rs320 5.1 it has normal hdmi, no hdmi ARC audio, year released 2009 only has optical audio input, so I decided to buy sony bdv-e2100 home teather 5.1 2018 year fabrication because it is HDMI ARC build in. My big surprise the pioneer vsx rs320 nine year older reproduce without lost of sound dolby digital plus and atmos format audio, transfering the back and heigth sound to the sorround sound speaker receiver, no sound is lost and reproducing via transference in the tv so reproduce the original audio format. Meanwhile the sony bdv e2100 almost a soundbar with separated 5.1speaker lost sound in sorround speaker dolby digtal plus and atmos, inspite to be HDMI ARC build in, also it is not wide dinamic audio range capable, the sound is flat and can reproduce it via PCM because via transference cannot reproduce sound. So I disided to stay with the pioneer vsx rs320 becausa even has better effects movies sound than the sony bdv-e2100, I thinks the optical audio is capable in audio only needs good hardware to reproduce sounds, I still didn´t test EARC so far, but I concider optial audio is better than hdmi ARC. At the time I bought the pioneer vsx rs320 all receivers had only optical and coaxial audio and analagus either 5.1 or 7.1 and stated to be dolby digital plus bulid in. This was my source sound test www.demolandia.net/cinema/dolby-demo-trailers-hd/page-9.html

  • @manigmaX
    @manigmaX6 ай бұрын

    I use Tewtross DAC Digital to Analog Audio Converter (SPDIF Optical to Aux) with an AUX splitter. So I am using my TV, Soundbar and 2.1 Speaker system all of them together. With bypass all are in sync and no delay. Wonderful experience. Maybe in future I will buy a good earc sound system to use with my C2.

  • @travismayne8830
    @travismayne8830 Жыл бұрын

    Is it worth getting a optical to hdmi for a surround sound system as atm im using aux. Worth upgrading even if its just optical?

  • @fender7802
    @fender78024 ай бұрын

    I currently have the HDMI + optical setup mentioned at the end of the video. I'm using a 13 year old Denon AVR1612 with a 4k Samsung TV. The Denon has HDMI ARC, which is enabled, and ARC is enabled within the TV, but no matter what input I select on the Denon, audio from the TV will not pass through the HDMI cable via ARC. Interestingly though, I can use the TV remote to control the volume of the stereo, so the control side of ARC is working. That's where the optical cable comes in. For some reason, audio is still sent out of the TV via the optical jack even though the TV's audio output is set to "HDMI control" and not "optical". So with the Denon programmed to receive audio through the optical input, I'm able to get sound through the stereo but still control the volume via the TV. It almost seems like this shouldn't work but it's actually working out great. I'm getting true 5.1 surround sound via the optical cable and the sound quality is perfectly fine. I can definitely see how ARC can be problematic. I had to turn off ARC on every other device hooked up to the TV or things were turning on and off without me wanting them to. Luckily the Denon had a setting to have ARC on, but power control off. Another thing I ran across was when switching inputs on the TV, the stereo's input would also change, and it was changing to modes that didn't support surround sound. This was remedied by going into the settings for the Denon and actually "deleting" the other inputs, so it couldn't automatically change over to them. All in all seems like this can be a good setup for someone experiencing some issues with slightly older equipment.

  • @theremingtonjames
    @theremingtonjames Жыл бұрын

    Great video brother! Helped tremendously

  • @Fleety420
    @Fleety420 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Vizio and I finally got a Vizio sound bar. As luck would have it I'm lost hooking it up. The biggest question is, are the HDMI and HDMI arc the same or are they 2 different types of HDMI cables? Also, if I want to connect my Xbox how do I do it the simplest way. Sound bar is Vizio-V Series 2.1 Model V21d-J8 Tv is Vizio E390-B1E I have the optical connection on tv.

  • @ErikOdinsvej
    @ErikOdinsvej Жыл бұрын

    I have a problem. Maybe you can give me a suggestion. I have an tv with hdmi and optical out and I have an tv box where I stream movie from internet,the tv box only have hdmi - the picture quality is fantastic, but the sound is good but not so loud as the life tv channel (I have set the sound to max on the tv box) so I have to turn op the sound on tv when I use the tv box - it works ok But when I go back to see live channel then the sound is way to loud if I forgot to turn the sound back to normal! So I was thinking that I want to use the optical out on tv - convert it to analog and send the sound to my audio amplifier - or is there a better way ?

  • @AJJJ-co2vd
    @AJJJ-co2vd9 ай бұрын

    I can use my tv speakers as channels if I connect an optical cable making my 5.0 soundbar 7 but I'm wondering if it's worth the loss of vertual Atmos?

  • @biglew1161
    @biglew1161 Жыл бұрын

    when i first got a Blu-ray player my receiver (pretty old at that time, no hdmi input) could not get the audio from a blue ray over the optical but the same player would send the audio from a dvd. not sure if this is still a problem today. i currently use arc over hdmi and have had zero issues.

  • @arniesilverberg764
    @arniesilverberg764 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your SONOS critique and suggestions for improvement. My greatest hope is that the company will carefully and seriously review all the info you present. I would add ongoing, annoying and inexcusable connectivity issues. SONOS will inevitably loose current and future customers (read money) if they don’t quickly make the improvements to their systems that are sorely needed. That said, my two subs might be able to be transitioned into very effective binoculars after 14.12 and 14.14 “updates”.

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    No worries Arnie 😊 It needed to be said. A lot of people are unhappy and have put many thousands into their systems for it to all be changed overnight without their input. Hopefully this video outlines peoples main concerns and something is done real quick! Hahaha!! 😂 They sure would make for good binoculars 😂 Cheers Arnie 😊

  • @bFix

    @bFix

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xlneoMAXlx what Google casting abilities are you talking about? afaik Sonos only supports airplay 2 regarding those kind of protocols. did you buy the speaker directly from Sonos or from a vendor?

  • @bFix

    @bFix

    Жыл бұрын

    @arniesilverberg764 what kind of connectivity issues? Atleast they got the subs right again with 14.19 afaik. (you need to reset trueplay once)

  • @jcruz6453

    @jcruz6453

    Жыл бұрын

    Sonos is the only system that hasn't given me problems. I have a tv that supports EArc and its great.

  • @andrewmieczkowski797
    @andrewmieczkowski797 Жыл бұрын

    The optical on your consumer devices, which is called S/PDIF or Toslink, has a max distance of 10m without degradation, if you are lucky.

  • @chaoswitch1974
    @chaoswitch1974Ай бұрын

    This is great to hear! I use digital optical because my ARC HDMI broke, and I honestly can't tell the difference in sound at all. Though, DOLBY ATMOS is supposed up be best, which you need ARC to function. It bothers me psychologically even though I don't notice the difference. Ugh! Stop my inanity lol

  • @derceto125
    @derceto125 Жыл бұрын

    My issue with ARC that made me switch to optical was this: My (slightly older) receiver was able to handle DD5.1 over ARC but not DD+. It could handle any audio format up to TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, including DD+ on any HDMI input, but not on ARC because it was out of spec. Now, my TV sends both DD5.1 (which works fine) and DD+ (not working) over ARC, no matter how I configure, but always sends DD5.1 over optical, transcoding all audio format supported. Fortunately, the remote can be configured to send the volume up/down/mute signals for the receiver when audio output is set to optical, so there's no need to use the receiver's remote.

  • @rioguttaful

    @rioguttaful

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know what kind of TV u have but mines had a list of receivers that were outdated mines was one them by 1 year 🙏🏽 the store clerk sold me without telling me compatibility wen I took it back I should of got the optical cord but I was scared it wouldn't work also u have to look up the model of your reciever and make sure it's compatible with the year Arc they don't tell u that lol

  • @mz1929
    @mz1929 Жыл бұрын

    Is this why I have bad lip sync issue with my new Q990b? Bc it has eArc but my LG B7 only has Arc? The sound bar is a 11.1.4 system or w.e Am I only able to send it 5.1? I'm not actually using my TV if that matters. It's coming from Nvida Shield Pro with a 2.1hdmi cord

  • @philipsawyers719
    @philipsawyers719 Жыл бұрын

    Hi great simple video. I'm having trouble with this, new Samsung TV new denon amp. Tv doesn't like, me using eARC, . The sound option on TV doesn't show amp. Hdmi option to auto works for a bit then next time sound only though TV. Optical cable might work?

  • @waltervanlille2263
    @waltervanlille2263 Жыл бұрын

    One hidden bonus of optical: When lightning destroys all your HDMI ports on your TV as well as your receiver, you can still fall back onto your optical connectors. Found this out the hard way.

  • @sharubmazumder7620
    @sharubmazumder76209 ай бұрын

    I need a suggestion I have a B6 series soundbar from samsung and my tv is also from samsung the problem is my tv supports Q-symphony but my soundbar doesn’t But my tv also supports dual sound via optical shall i switch to optical for dual sound or should i continue to use my soundbar via hdmi Earc Any suggestion is appreciated Thanks

  • @tomcooke6670
    @tomcooke66702 ай бұрын

    if i want to.use optical instead of arc to send tv audio to my processor do i need to turn arc off in the tv. thanks tom

  • @chuckmaddison2924
    @chuckmaddison2924 Жыл бұрын

    I am wondering if there is some delay introduced with optical. I am running hdmi video with optical audio and there seems to be a slight delay in audio. Today I going to try hdmi for everything And or try shutting off the auto sync.

  • @frederiklikaj
    @frederiklikaj Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your video. My tv Samsung Q90R only ARC capable, Soundbar Samsung HW90 with eARC HDMI port and 2 other HDMI ports. Panasonic blu ray player with HDMI audio out and HDMI video out. Samsung TV with one box connection har 3 HDMI and an ARC HDMI. How do I have to connect those to get lossless audio from my Panasonic playing 4K disc to my soundbar? Thank You very much in advance.

  • @jerryees
    @jerryees5 ай бұрын

    I just purchased a Bose smartsoundbar 900. My Damsung tv has ARC hdmi connectors and optic connections too. I am wondering if optic would be better being that I only have ARC hdmi? What is your opinion on this?

  • @EQUAL.RIGHTS.4ALL
    @EQUAL.RIGHTS.4ALL7 ай бұрын

    Hi brother. Can we make bluetooth speaker and hdmi work together?

  • @allanpennington
    @allanpennington Жыл бұрын

    But didn't you say that streaming services only output Atmos through compressed 5.1? If so will you get Atmos with Optical connection or only through HDMI? And as its compressed will you get Atmos from the streaming service if your TV only has ARC and not eARC? My Panasonic TH-50730EZ has ARC only but does have and optical out too. However it doesn't list Atmos support but does list Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus and HDR10. So hoping when my new Samsung Q800B Soundbar arrives tomorrow Ill be able to get Atmos via Netflix and or Amazon Prime both of which are included Apps on the Smart TV.

  • @ToddParker
    @ToddParker7 ай бұрын

    I have a LG TV I believe has ARC, but i have a Bose Solo 5 Sound bar that I connect to the tv using optical because it does not have HDMI. I am searching for a solve because my PS5 has good sound quality through sound bar cinematically but voices drop. I can't sort out if it is the PS5 or the streaming service or game because it happens in a variety of applications. I could play a movie in Paramount Plus and Appletv will handle it fine through same setup but PS5 will play all sounds except voices. My setup is HDMI to every device except optical to the sound bar; all connected directly to tv. Any help is appreciated, if there is a video addressing PS5 sound issues with solves and setup. thanks

  • @robertgelder3493
    @robertgelder3493 Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to control the Sonos volume (amp via optical) with the LG Magic Remote?

  • @slowsmooth3440
    @slowsmooth3440 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a device that I can use to connect my record player to my USB or optical soundbar input?

  • @kaanavci7411
    @kaanavci7411 Жыл бұрын

    i have about a 10 year old tv ready for an upgrade although my stereo system died. i want to get a new theatre system and love the sonos products although i will only be able to run it through an optical cable, and since sonos don’t provide a seperate remote for the volume control i don’t know if it will sinc to my tv remote if it is using optical. does anyone have any ideas?

  • @ryanf9275
    @ryanf9275 Жыл бұрын

    Hello! After using it for years, suddenly there is no sound coming through my Vizio sound bar when using my Apple TV 2. It works when watching basic cable, but not Apple TV. Any ideas?

  • @peterrobertbowers7639
    @peterrobertbowers7639 Жыл бұрын

    i use an optic fibre HDMI cable for a longer length. Works perfectly; no issues with this kind of cable, with my Sony Bravia TV. Monday am 15th May 2023. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Southampton England

  • @Kamperization95
    @Kamperization9515 күн бұрын

    I’ve bought the LG C3 along with top of the line Soundbar by LG the optical IMO allows for better surround sound quality over hdmi and it’s noticeably different on my setup not sure why but I love the optical output better

  • @mikepowers7829
    @mikepowers7829 Жыл бұрын

    Can I use my Sonos Playbar with a Roku ultra for sound on the Roku Thanks Mike Powers

  • @brunoboy98
    @brunoboy9810 ай бұрын

    Do i need a hdmi 2.1 cable for earc? or can i use a normal hdmi cable

  • @simoncook6031
    @simoncook60314 ай бұрын

    I currently have a Panasonic SA-BTT490 cinema surround system connected to a Samsung QLED television. I also have a Sky Q box connected. When using sky the TV sound is echoing the cinema sound - any ideas appreciated. Connected with an HDMI ARC cable and optical

  • @MillenniumFalcon
    @MillenniumFalcon Жыл бұрын

    Thanks this was very educational.

  • @jeanp.5929
    @jeanp.5929 Жыл бұрын

    I have noticed my sound bar turning on in the middle of the night. Although, my Sony tv has some software issues. So I'm not too sure I can blame it on the HDMI port.

  • @diablo020590
    @diablo020590 Жыл бұрын

    I had my Samsung 2012 smart tv and works perfect with my sonos bar with the optical I change last year Samsung criystal UHD 2021 and now I can’t figure out i don’t have sound come out from the tv idk what happen I’ll try everything and nothing. You thing you can suggest me something .??

  • @DougZbikowski
    @DougZbikowski Жыл бұрын

    I’ve literally never seen nor heard of anyone having the problems mentioned with HDMI.

  • @cmdaniels55
    @cmdaniels55 Жыл бұрын

    When I run arc or Earc I eventually get audio lag on ALL streaming.(YAMAHA RECEIVER) I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING. WILL OPTICAL HELP THIS. CAN YOU HELP ME

  • @thomasjacques5286
    @thomasjacques52862 ай бұрын

    I’m still a 2 channel guy and I connect ALL my sources to my new 85” Samsung tv then just feeding the audio to my new Emotiva PT1 pre-amp that feeds their A2 power amp which feeds my BOSE 901s which I will never part with. It’s easy and sound fabulous.

  • @712Jefferson
    @712Jefferson Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown. Thank you so much.

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback 😊 I really appreciate it

  • @HPMIKE55
    @HPMIKE55 Жыл бұрын

    Great job bro! 😎👍

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Henry. Appreciate your support bro 😀

  • @anthonynigro3471
    @anthonynigro34714 ай бұрын

    My Epson projector has 2 reg hdmi ports and my Bose 900 has only hdmi arc or optic. Will using the optic on the 900 and converting it to hdmi on one of the hdmi ports and fire stick in the other hdmi port on the projector. Will this work? Please help thanks

  • @LeonXfilm
    @LeonXfilm11 ай бұрын

    I got a lot of electronic noise using ARC until I changed to optic

  • @khobia2
    @khobia2 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the information. Great video.

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Michael for your kind words. 😊

  • @rodrigonitrini7144
    @rodrigonitrini7144Ай бұрын

    Hello ! I have the Onkyo HT-R390. When I try selecting the listening modes options, the display does now show me any DTS or Dolby D options. 1) Does that mean my source is not transmitting DTS or Dolby D? 2) I ask because Im using a optical audio cable, so maybe that would be the reason; 3) I can select Neo 6 DTS and that option lights up a red DTS logo on the display, but does that mean Im getting DTS 5.1 from my BDs or is it just upscalling stereo to 5.1 speakers?

  • @cfldriven
    @cfldriven Жыл бұрын

    I use the optical out of the CD player straight into the Onkyo AVR, for the rest of the other devices it is HDMI arc.

  • @rodden1953
    @rodden1953 Жыл бұрын

    ive been using a cable for about 5 years and its started to do strange things to the TV from the laptop so ive ordered a fiber cable , i think the plugs might be a bit worn out

  • @FeedScrn
    @FeedScrn Жыл бұрын

    If you don't need the optical cable, with AV Receivers... HDMI I found to be better - because the receiver uses HDMI for OSD display.

  • @TheSweetswed
    @TheSweetswed10 ай бұрын

    Good video. My old 4k tv worked fine with my receiver i plug my computer into my receiver and then the receiver into the TV but this new 4k TV i bought it says no signal. When i press menu it shows so im going to have to try optical because my comp works fine when plugged direct into the TV but not through the receiver

  • @borg386
    @borg3866 ай бұрын

    Good video! Is there any adapter to change optical into 3.5 or 1/4" audio?

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Yes there is... geni.us/2AS8fR

  • @0619421034
    @0619421034 Жыл бұрын

    My issue was the other way, my samsung tv use to wake up at night when connected through optical cable but it stopped happening when I started using hdmi arc port. It was good to know the cause now.

  • @44pakattack

    @44pakattack

    9 ай бұрын

    Bro. I don't have the opt plugged in and my klipsch soundbar still turns on. Maybe cause I have a newer tv or something and it registers it somehow

  • @TonyinFL
    @TonyinFL Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I was hoping to get a quick clarification from you. I have a Onkyo TX-SR806, circa 2008. Back in the day this was somewhat high end and supports Dolby Digital+ and TrueHD along with DTS HD Master. I have a Google Chromecast connected to it via HDMI and then it connects to the TV via HDMI. I find that the HDMI connection does not always work but cycling the power on the TX-SR806 one or more times will fix it. When it fails to connect, if I plug the Chromecast directly into the TV (via HDMI) it seems to work. I suspect the HDMI related electronics in the quite old TX-SR806 may be the issue. Until I decide to upgrade to a new receiver, to eliminate this hassle, I suspect I can hook the Chromecast to the TV, then use an optical cable from the TV to the TX-SR806. I currently have a 5.1 surround sound speaker setup. From poking around on the internet, I am under the impression that the optical cable does not support Dolby Digital+ but does support Dolby Digital. Realistically, does this mean I might be giving up some sound fidelity when using a streaming service such as Netflix with my 5.1 surround sound speaker setup powered by the TX-SR806 if I should switch to using an optical cable as described above?

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Anthony. How do you find other devices that are connected directly to the Onkyo through HDMI? Do they have any problems too? If not, it might be worth trying another Chromecast or another streaming device that has casting ability instead. If you change over to plugging your Chromecast into the TV and running an Optical Cable to the Onkyo I don't think you'll notice that much because Optical can still do Dolby Digital 5.1 which will do just fine with your setup. I hope this helps.

  • @TonyinFL

    @TonyinFL

    Жыл бұрын

    @@archwaytech Hi. The Chromecast is really the only thing I use these days for content through my home theater / audio system. My have things changed in the past 20 years - LOL! Anyway, I appreciate the feedback!

  • @Wimmle
    @Wimmle Жыл бұрын

    I only just changed over to eArc and honestly optical is so much easier, eArc can be so finicky

  • @bFix
    @bFix Жыл бұрын

    1:25 which device had communication issues? or are you talking about the TV having issues forwarding certain Codecs? that can also happen for optical cables if you use them like hdmi arc (hdmi into TV and then arc/optical out). the TV has to not suck at audio stuff. (I had an older TV that didn't support forwarding eac3 (dolby digital plus) at all, so it didn't support forwarding it over optical either, sadly and my source device had to recode eac3 to ac3; this got fixed by switching to a newer tv) hdmi as an arc port only has one job though so what are you talking about? ("as it tries to do a lot") ok later on it's about certain audio devices doing stupid designs because hdmi is more complicated. if your hifi/av thing turns on your TV over hdmi in the middle of the night I'd return it probably. That's an issue of the device not the standard imo (if a device updates itself in standby and sends a wakeup command afterwards even though it was in standby earlier for example). Yes, it leaves people frustrated and might happen too often. But if you don't want to return your device: simply disable the hdmi wake up feature and only wake up the hifi, when you turn on the TV. you can disable these kinda things in tvs in both directions (receiving or transmitting wake up signals)

  • @EliasAnto
    @EliasAnto Жыл бұрын

    You had mentioned in your video that Optical and HDMI ARC can send a “compressed” Dolby audio signal. Did you mean to say “lossy” signal, since Dolby TrueHD is also compressed but lossless?

  • @mullapudimanyam2999
    @mullapudimanyam29998 ай бұрын

    My LG TV only has arc. My 5.1 sound bar has earc. Can you suggest adapters that can convert my TV arc to earc to hear better sound than before.

  • @parkerwilkins5495

    @parkerwilkins5495

    3 ай бұрын

    if your tv only outputs arc then no adapter will be able to improve the sound quality.

  • @dhamodharamreddy6541
    @dhamodharamreddy6541 Жыл бұрын

    Tv has eArc and soundbar has 5.1 Arc the sound coming only from2.1 😢channel . How to get sound from 5.1 Can you help

  • @jblaze725
    @jblaze7255 күн бұрын

    I have an LG c2 television capable of earc as well as a vizio soundbar capable of earc. I have turned earc on but it only ever works as an arc connection. How so I fix this?

  • @PatrickDSimpson
    @PatrickDSimpson Жыл бұрын

    Does optical have any less delay than HDMI? Like if you're having AV sync issues with HDMI would using optical offer any benefits?

  • @easterlingderek34

    @easterlingderek34

    11 ай бұрын

    To start with optical is light which has 0 delay, it is really the processing on the device end that adds the delay, which means using either or will not fix the delay, but the truth is it is not audio delay as audio is processed usually at just a few milliseconds it is actually the Video that is delayed because of the extra processing it has to go through. So sometimes if you have it doing too much to the image then just try turning things off and see if it fixes it and then it could sometimes be the content as well. That is why TV's should really have an audio delay built in so if the processor processing the Video signal can't keep up you can dial it in to exactly the amount you need so they can match again.

  • @sabbathAndy
    @sabbathAndy Жыл бұрын

    I also prefer optical for a single reason, HDMI BOARDS GO WRONG very often! It's my greatest fear for expensive av receivers!

  • @chungus1149

    @chungus1149

    Жыл бұрын

    But nearly any receiver has both HDMI and optical inputs... So why not just prefer the far superior HDMI and then if the board burns out like you say (never experienced this) you can just fall back to optical ?

  • @MuTSoftLight

    @MuTSoftLight

    Жыл бұрын

    something that really helps with hdmi board going bad is additional cooling. you can open up the avr, buy some cooper heatsinks and put them onto the chips of the hdmi board, then additionally put some fans on top and your avr goes from hot cake to icecold

  • @bobman929

    @bobman929

    Жыл бұрын

    I lost a laptop because of a hdmi

  • @atf56
    @atf56 Жыл бұрын

    Bro may I know your opinion about the affordable Lg sl4 and Samsung hw b450 soundbar?

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not a fan of those models… they don’t have HDMI ARC which makes them less user friendly. I highly recommend the Samsung B550 or JBL 2.1. If you’ve got a Samsung TV from the last 6 years I’d go for the B550 as it pairs nicely and gives you the volume numbers on the TV screen. I touch on this more in my Samsung Q950a review. Hope this helps.

  • @atf56

    @atf56

    Жыл бұрын

    @@archwaytech I'm using a Sony tv. But here I'm looking for a good soundbar for my pc. It only has optical out and 2 normal HDMI ports..one from msi motherboard and another from nvidia rtx3070 GPU. I'm looking for the most affordable one with clarity and enough punching bass. That's why I shortlisted those models

  • @thomasmoreno3602
    @thomasmoreno3602 Жыл бұрын

    I'm having a issue here I plug in my HDMI Into arc Into my sound bar And I lose some of my Picture quality on my TV but when I disconnect it And I use only opt cord The picture is perfect can you tell me What is wrong could it be that I am using 2 different HDMI cords I'm using the xbox series x HDMI IS 2.1

  • @ChiquitaSpeaks
    @ChiquitaSpeaks Жыл бұрын

    I like optical because it’s like digital and analog at the same time

  • @001vidhu
    @001vidhu Жыл бұрын

    I prefer optical because i can use both tv spekaer and sound system at the same time if i do that. My tv speaker gives better width because of inbuilt dolby atmos, my home theatre gives me the surround & bass. So adding it gives me a better experience at low cost

  • @christopherbrown8205

    @christopherbrown8205

    Жыл бұрын

    Or, as in my case, the TV gives center and the speakers bass and better treble (I have a Sony TV from the days before soundbars became ubiquitous, so it has pretty good speakers 🙂 ).

  • @igorstimac8993

    @igorstimac8993

    Жыл бұрын

    I think there's too much echo when using both the soundbar and the tv speakers

  • @manigmaX

    @manigmaX

    6 ай бұрын

    I use Tewtross DAC Digital to Analog Audio Converter (SPDIF Optical to Aux) with an AUX splitter. So I am using my TV, Soundbar and 2.1 Speaker system all of them together. With bypass all are in sync and no delay. Wonderful experience. Maybe in future I will buy a good earc sound system to use with my C2.

  • @derbybOyzZ
    @derbybOyzZ Жыл бұрын

    I want the audio benefits of eARC, but also want the video signal to go from my pc in another room so will likely need an optical cable. How do I get the best of both worlds? Wanting to run above 5.1 system.

  • @parkerwilkins5495

    @parkerwilkins5495

    3 ай бұрын

    There are fiber optic HDMI cables that exist and support e-arc. Be wary if you buy one though, as some aren't bi-directional and wont support e-arc. I haven't used any so I'd recommend doing more research. As the video states optical HDMI can be pricey though.

  • @MrDANGEROUSIDEAS
    @MrDANGEROUSIDEAS8 ай бұрын

    You know, it's amazing how many people covering the subject forget to talk about what's important for quite a few people personally, I have a PlayStation and Xbox, a 3-D Blu-ray player. My Roku device all hooked up. Nothing was covered in that. Also you didn't say anything about transmission speed if I'm playing on my PlayStation, which is better for me to use because I noticed quite a bit of significant lag when I use an HDMI cable through my Panasonic elite system but if I use my headphones there's zero lag whatsoever so it's being lost through the eARC channel

  • @drh3rd
    @drh3rd4 ай бұрын

    Anyone able to use Bluetooth audio via eARC connection from TV to receiver? Have been trying configurations for days and cannot get it to work.

  • @jjhernandez5244
    @jjhernandez52449 ай бұрын

    I need 2 eARC in and 1 eARC out switch, any suggestions?

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    8 ай бұрын

    Why do you need 2 x eARC in? Can you list your setup?

  • @puglife6291
    @puglife62913 ай бұрын

    My parent's Hisense tv and Yamaha sound bar failed the digital handshake via HDMI and ARC the dozen or so times i tried to connect them except one time the signal got through which was a one off. So I chose the HDMI directly to tv for video and the Optical for audio. Since my parents sound bar has no surround speakers so in effect no true surround set up, I opted to set the bluray player to down mix all audio to uncompressed PCM stereo. This way they are still getting DTS HD and Dolby True HD. This sounds richer and more full bodied than using the compressed Dolby Digital 5.1 surround option.

  • @patd4u2

    @patd4u2

    5 күн бұрын

    my Bose 900 soundbar had the same problems with the handshake when turning the TV on, I got so tired of it happening so often I went to fiber optic and the problem went away completely, and the sound is just as good if not better

  • @LoafRock
    @LoafRock Жыл бұрын

    Great video 🍻

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bread 😊

  • @gorkman5697
    @gorkman56974 ай бұрын

    I need help please .I have samsung hw-q990b sound bar and vestel tv .My tv doesnt have atmos optıon.so far I connected wıth Hdmı .my tv and sound bar has arc Which one is better .I didnt try optic cable yet,İs optic cable better.will ı get atmos sound.I dont even know how atmos sounds like And on tv which options I should enable .They mantion about the passthrough or Pcm when ı watched on other videos I will appriacte if you can help me ,Sorry my english is not good , Thank you

  • @blkinvestor
    @blkinvestor8 ай бұрын

    My tv only has ARC can i GET A receiver to upgrade to Earc sound?

  • @michaels9056

    @michaels9056

    8 ай бұрын

    Apple TV

  • @XRockstar34
    @XRockstar347 ай бұрын

    75 4k tv and a Yamaha 7.2 receiver not 4k so use optics?

  • @rodysk8
    @rodysk8 Жыл бұрын

    Will optical cable works from a 4K Tv to a old Bose surround system that has optical input? Thanks

  • @parkerwilkins5495

    @parkerwilkins5495

    3 ай бұрын

    If the tv has an optical output and it's enabled, then yes it should work.

  • @wendellwendellb339
    @wendellwendellb339 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe for a sound bar, but, for those who really have a good Home theater setup, they are going to use HDMI all day every day. Once I found out how to get sound through HDMI on sets I have in different rooms, I disconnected the Optical cable!

  • @ryans413

    @ryans413

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes I don’t understand this optical trend lately it’s so old school it can only do Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS 5.1 it can’t carry the HD audio. Ontop of that I see everyone going HDMI into there TVs then using the Optical out to get sound it’s so so wrong ugh it irritates me so much. Optical out from your tv is okay if your using the TVs built in apps like you tube and Netflix the audio there is not HD audio but for Blu Rays your loosing so much quality. The TV will downsample the audio to something the cable can handle.

  • @xtrickster6556

    @xtrickster6556

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm not getting audio from my HDMI for some reason even with all the settings correct. I have no choice but to use optical cable

  • @parkerwilkins5495

    @parkerwilkins5495

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ryans413 most people are just looking for a reliable experience and HDMI arc is notorious for being unreliable on some tv's. A lot of people are also using cheap soundbars, where they won't even be able to hear a difference.

  • @patd4u2
    @patd4u25 күн бұрын

    Nothing but problems using my Bose, 900 sound bar with the HDMI arc. I would get no sound sometimes in the morning when I turned the TV on and would have to unplug the TV and sound bar to get it to work. Sometimes it would randomly switch back to the TV speakers. I switched to fiber optic, and all the problems went away.

  • @skschandra
    @skschandra6 ай бұрын

    You saved me spend Rs 50,000 (INR) which is 700$ approx to buy a new Denon receiver. I don't need to buy it now as my TV remote is control to control the audio reciever.

  • @Gajahelf123
    @Gajahelf123 Жыл бұрын

    My 2018 tv only support Arc hdmi. If i could be patient enough buying in 2019, maybe i can get the eArc hdmi port for true Dolby Atmos now.

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m in the same boat as you… I’ve got a 2018 Samsung. You can get compressed Atmos through Dolby Digital Plus if your TV allows for it. Otherwise you can plug an Apple TV or Nvidia shield into your sound systems hdmi in and get true Atmos that way.

  • @atf56

    @atf56

    Жыл бұрын

    @@archwaytech can I get Atmos on a Dolby digital Plus soundbar .really? If it is the case I don't mind the compression. I'm going to use it with pc with Dolby access app

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    What TV and Soundbar do you have? Brand and Model

  • @atf56

    @atf56

    Жыл бұрын

    @@archwaytech if you are asking to me, I'm looking for an affordable sound bar for my workstation pc with optical port

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    If you’re wanting a Soundbar that does convincing Atmos then you’ll need to spend a bit of money and get one with rear speakers. If you’re wanting a cheap Soundbar that you can use as PC speakers then check out the JBL 2.0. It’s a great little soundbar and is reasonably priced. It won’t do Atmos but even if you got a soundbar that can do Atmos but doesn’t have rear speakers it won’t give you the full 3D effect.

  • @GedeAdin_Nugroho18
    @GedeAdin_Nugroho184 ай бұрын

    The cable that I didn't know exist. I started using it today as output from my HDMI extractor

  • @mac-xe9do
    @mac-xe9do Жыл бұрын

    I have a ps4, a monitor with speakers/sound and a yamaha soundbar. The soundbar has 3 hdmi ports and 1 arc, the ps4 has only 1 hdmi, which goes to the monitor, then an optical from ps4 to the soundbar. I know that optical does not support dolby atmos or DTS, so does anyone know how i would connect to make optimum sound and vision ? TIA

  • @tanyawhite8511
    @tanyawhite8511 Жыл бұрын

    It's a bit confusing my soundbar didn't play on my Phillips TV through ARC

  • @amirsan278
    @amirsan278 Жыл бұрын

    With optic cable the sound is much better and clear then hdmi in my av reciver , sony str dn1080 I think mixing of video and audio signals in the same cable cause electronic interference. With all due respect to all the formats that HDMI can transmit, They still haven't addressed the basic problem, Which is complete isolation of the cords between audio and video in an HDMI cable.

  • @ks03xbf

    @ks03xbf

    Жыл бұрын

    signal is digitall, there is no mixing, intrefering, etc, simply your reciver handle this signals differently if you hear difference

  • @raven4k998
    @raven4k998 Жыл бұрын

    what if you had optical Ethernet and internet no copper wire involved at all what about that one?

  • @Magicinstalls
    @Magicinstalls Жыл бұрын

    I don’t have a problem with optical, except some remote will not control volume unless you hook it up to HDMI arc

  • @sloanmagnum5009
    @sloanmagnum5009 Жыл бұрын

    I could never get my Sony 4k AV reciever to activate the subwoofer when connected to my xbox one elite. Works with every other source component just not xbox. Basically, speaker channels work fine but no signal to my subwoofer from the reciever when uaing xbox. Anybody know why?

  • @jorgem50
    @jorgem50 Жыл бұрын

    I have been using optical since 2002. Next week I will receive my new receiver and I will finally switch over to hdmi audio. I'm curious to see if there is a small or big difference

  • @jorgem50

    @jorgem50

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HT_addict Thank you. I am expecting better sound from HDMI. Can't wait to try it

  • @jjjurgensen454

    @jjjurgensen454

    Жыл бұрын

    Buy an hdmi fiber optical cable and get the best of both worlds

  • @jorgem50

    @jorgem50

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jjjurgensen454 hooked up my new yamaha last night and the audio through hdmi is very nice. I do hear a difference over optical. Man I feel so dumb it took me so long to get a new receiver so I can use hdmi audio

  • @jorgem50

    @jorgem50

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HT_addictyep, I am loving audio through hdmi. I can hear the difference. Loving my new yamaha receiver

  • @igorstimac8993

    @igorstimac8993

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jorgem50 I prefer optical, the sound is much better on my hisense soundbar. Only downside is that I have to use 2 remotes

  • @hhkk6155
    @hhkk615513 күн бұрын

    Using optical on a 7.1 receiver with proper 5.1 speakers. I was thinking about buying 2 more speakers to get 7.1, but most of the movies really don't have an amazing soundtrack, like very few movies properly use even 5.1. So I see no point in upgrading to 7.1 or buying a ner receiver for Atmos, sure demo clips make use of all channels , but majority of movies don't. As for audio compression - you literally can't even tell if it's there, thats why compressed music won. Also heard a lot about audio being out of sync when using ARC, I was like: no thanks 😅

  • @richard6381
    @richard6381 Жыл бұрын

    With an eight-year old TV and sound bar, I find things work best when using both. They are connected using both an HDMI cable and digital optical cable. The HDMI-CEC is turned on and the ARC is turned off at the sound bar. Using this arrangement, the power and volume controls work perfectly, and there are no audio sync or drop out issues.

  • @mrpuddy9

    @mrpuddy9

    10 ай бұрын

    I have a seven-year old tv. Thanks so much for sharing

  • @bdk323
    @bdk323 Жыл бұрын

    I think I have the opposite of what most want. I don't want to turn my sound bar on every time I'm watching TV. The built in speakers are fine unless I want to watch a movie that's why I just use optical.

  • @archwaytech

    @archwaytech

    Жыл бұрын

    And that’s a great reason to use optical.

  • @todd69er
    @todd69er Жыл бұрын

    Let's just say I have a 5.1.4 Dolbyatmos system. Can I stream all 10 channels through HDMI eARC from my tv to my home theater receiver uncompressed? I believe I can...am I right? Whereas optical is limited to 5.1

  • @Laptops1781

    @Laptops1781

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, as long as the sound system AND TV have E-arc inputs

  • @railerswim

    @railerswim

    Жыл бұрын

    And optical toslink is also lossy. Whereas HDMI can carry lossless.

  • @absolutium

    @absolutium

    Жыл бұрын

    You are a little bit confused specifically Object oriented codecs like the one you are mentioning are not transmitting 10 channels they are showing coordinates to the reciever.. Which in the case of Atmos were obtained from a "base bed" made of 7 channels in X axis and 2 in Y.

  • @absolutium

    @absolutium

    Жыл бұрын

    @@railerswim Optical is Lossless for stereo audio.

  • @Harald_Reindl

    @Harald_Reindl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@absolutium the topic of the is about multichannel and not stereo - everybody knows that a stereo PCM signal is lossless

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