5 WAYS to connect a TV to a HIFI system (for beginners)

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  • @kwilj
    @kwilj Жыл бұрын

    3.1 channel is my sweet spot for tv/movies, the center channel for dialogue makes a big difference

  • @stevie8932
    @stevie8932 Жыл бұрын

    When you paire your Bluetooth Headphones directly to the Apple TV Box instead of the TV, you have no Delay and perfect Lip Sync. Tested it with a few Headphones and it worked every time. Just go to Settings/ Remotes and Devices/ Bluetooth…pair your Headphones there and you can enjoy Lip Sync Video Content. Thank‘s John for your funny and enthusiastic Videos, a little illumination even on dark(o) days

  • @EclecticMusicMan
    @EclecticMusicMan Жыл бұрын

    The most professional, non biased, factual and genuinely informative audiophile content, even the ad break’s are marked. Wish other channels were this good.

  • @Nearest_Neighbor
    @Nearest_Neighbor Жыл бұрын

    Since I'm building a new system, my first decent stereo setup, I'll go with the Node as my 'all in one' solution. HDMI ARC, subwoofer out (with the hpf option), streamer (with a physical connection to the Datenautobahn!), dac, digital out, two way bluetooth, just about everything I need. I'm happy you're one of the great people in this community recommending this to us. Thank you for your work, Darko team. 🙏

  • @HannesBretschneider
    @HannesBretschneider Жыл бұрын

    John, I fully agree with you not wanting to wire up your room for nine loudspeakers behind and above you, but an important benefit of multi-channel audio for movies and TV is the center channel because it carries over 90% of the dialogue and having just that third speaker massively improves dialogue intelligibility over relying on the stereo speakers' phantom image. I used stereo speakers with my TV for years, but always had trouble understanding the dialogue, especially at low volumes. For that reason I like to use a 3.1 soundbar with my TV (bad for music, but much better for movies/TV) and have a completely separate stereo system that's good for music.

  • @jerrybandy3827
    @jerrybandy3827 Жыл бұрын

    I use a 4 year old TV connected with Toslink to a 20 year ago receiver (Kenwood) outputting to 40 year old wired speakers (JBL). Works for me.

  • @yegscaper6444
    @yegscaper6444 Жыл бұрын

    This is perfect, thank you! My partner has a high-end stereo and a TV and they're not connected. We have an external Roku Streambar and I'm always like 'why don't we connect the TV to the stereo' 😂

  • @stressballer
    @stressballer Жыл бұрын

    I switched from a stereo to a 3.0 "surround" setup connected to my TV (HDMI/ARC) and having a dedicated center channel was a welcome upgrade - can recommend!

  • @thomaswachter7782
    @thomaswachter7782 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great idea... help out the beginner. Thank you.

  • @xjimmy225x
    @xjimmy225x Жыл бұрын

    I dove deep into this idea a few years ago and spent months researching the best way to connect my tv to my stereo setup. The best solution I found was the NAD M32 preamp which has the capability of adding a HDMI module with 4 HDMI ports

  • @TheLWebb100
    @TheLWebb100 Жыл бұрын

    Stereo is the best of both worlds for me and I consider myself a music and movie guy.

  • @marcus1970
    @marcus1970 Жыл бұрын

    This is great content.. I chose to turn my back on multi channel when things (and I) got to 7.1.... Instead choosing to chase higher fidelity with stereo underpinned with sub. .... I've never been happier with my sound.... The current crop of streaming/DAC/Pre make a convenient digital hub.

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan Жыл бұрын

    6:50 Camera conspiracies in the house hahah

  • @kristophergurley585
    @kristophergurley585 Жыл бұрын

    There are times, just every now and then, when I do wanna just scrap all that I have invested in multichannel and go back to simple stereo for tv and movie viewing. Especially in the family room. No more catching up to the latest standards, no more sneaking cables over mantles or behind couches, less equipment clutter, and just less fuss overall. However, those moments fade pretty quickly and once set up, living with multi channel in the main room is fine. I do like movies almost as much as music and since I’m not a reviewer and thus not changing out equipment all the time, the burden of living with a multi channel is all on the front end. Once set up, operation and use is easy and the rewards the extra speakers bring is worth it to me.

  • @felixlaboy1453
    @felixlaboy1453 Жыл бұрын

    Finally the video I’ve been waiting for. Thank you buddy. You and your team are the best.

  • @jamestravill9640
    @jamestravill9640 Жыл бұрын

    Completely agree.. two ears… two speakers ☺️

  • @b13nx2k
    @b13nx2k Жыл бұрын

    What about using a home theater receiver for music? They have HDMI ARC, mains high pass, room correction etc... Would you consider reviewing one of those? If not why? Thanks and keep up the great videos 👍👍

  • @esperago

    @esperago

    Жыл бұрын

    My experience is that there are not many hi-fi quality home theatre receivers. But that begs the question "Why are there no high quality, reasonably priced home theatre receivers?" A person can buy a Chinese $200 portable hi-fi music player, hook it to a great sounding $99 Chinese hi-fi amp and then follow that up to good headphones or decent speakers. For just a few hundred dollars. But God forbid a video signal enters the situation. Then a person has to break the bank and buy a $2000+ home theatre receiver to get both hi-fi audio and 4k output. How can the electronic components for video alone cost so much? If one is just dealing with audio, spending hundreds of dollars will do. Add video to the mix and cheap Chi-fi solutions disappear and one has to spend thousands and thousands. I don't get it. Am I missing something? What am I missing?

  • @ekimandersom4478

    @ekimandersom4478

    Жыл бұрын

    @@esperago I assume because all the Dolby, Atmos, DTS stuff costs money for the licence.

  • @donaldmackillop6736
    @donaldmackillop6736 Жыл бұрын

    Superb tutorial, so clear and concise even I understood it. Faced with a change to my quarter of a century failing.ailing JVC stereo that's currently connected to my LG TV via Tos-converted to phono hooked to vintage. You swiftly cleared up upcoming options, whatever stereo I plump for, many thanks indeed.

  • @smaganas
    @smaganas Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps your most useful video ever. Thank you

  • @Radmixtape77
    @Radmixtape77 Жыл бұрын

    My Samsung TV, sending audio via Toslink, to a $20 prozor DAC sounds surprisingly good. My Schiit Bifrost 2 had too much delay with lip sync, so for this application the $20 DAC wins the day. You don’t need to spend a lot to improve your TV sound! (The rest of that chain is a Rotel A11 tribute, with Wharfedale Denton 85th and SVS 3000 micro sub)

  • @Northernlanes
    @Northernlanes Жыл бұрын

    I listen to Amazon Music using my Firestick, I like to see the album art and lyrics etc on screen, I input the Firesticks hdmi into a hdmi->optical extractor, the extractor has hdmi output to the TV, the optical toslink can go to the amplifier (in my set up it goes via an external dac then analogue to the amp), this method gets me 24bit/192khz into the amp. Great quality.

  • @yveslaingui457
    @yveslaingui457 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this content as always, love your shows

  • @markielinhart
    @markielinhart Жыл бұрын

    Great video‼️My audio-visual system is my old stereo hifi set up (including the sub) using an AppleTV to stream using AirPlay and my iPad as a wifi server. Or, of course free to air TV. Simple, fab stereo sound. Use an hdmi lead from AppleTV to TV set and phono jacks from amp to external TV input for audio ✌️🌻 Btw a correction Mr D. Netflix dumped the AirPlay applet which is why I dumped Netflix…

  • @Larstig81
    @Larstig81 Жыл бұрын

    I always use a toslink connection. At first, many years ago, my M-audio Superdac 2496 was the device to select the sound from the tv or cd-player. This dac I think is 20 years old and still running great. Since last year I use the dac of the cxa81. Also a great dac.

  • @kylemacarthur3177
    @kylemacarthur3177 Жыл бұрын

    Mr. Darko, My apologies if I somehow missed this in the video: On the back of my HDTV is the orange Digital Coax output. I simply select the output on my tv to Digital Coax Out, and run the coax cable to my DAC -- in this case a Schiit Modi II. Works like a charm -- plus it can play higher quality audio streams.

  • @scottscottsdale7868

    @scottscottsdale7868

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a good point for those with that option.

  • @jamesstanley7263
    @jamesstanley7263 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve got a NAD M10 connected to my LG OLED via HDMI Arc. Pretty flakey most of the time. Was just as easy to connect via toslink and use a learning smart remote to control everything

  • @romainroger734
    @romainroger734 Жыл бұрын

    Hi from FRANCE and many thanks and congrats to your channel, always interesting ! 👍

  • @JoshMizrahi
    @JoshMizrahi Жыл бұрын

    Thank you John. I love your exploring the TV and Hifi connection. I have 2 setups both with Apple TV running Plex from a NAS along with Apple Music. In the living room I am running that to the HDMI connection on the Klipsch the Fives. The main problem I had with that was the Samsung TV defaulting to the TV speakers but that has been fixed. I have not had the problems with the Klipsch EQ and Bass that you hard but the Fives were very fidely at the start especially the firmware update. I bought these specifically to be able to control volume with the Apple TV remote and that works great. To be able to scroll through Plex and play whatever I like with voice control and a big now playing screen is tremendous! In the bedroom, the set up is from pieces that I had upgraded in the living room. So an 19 inch computer monitor running Apple TV to an HDMI splitter, that gives me an optical out to a pair of Edifier powered speakers. So no volume control but I do have a Soundavo dac that my brother was not using that controls volume. After watching your video I tried using the WiiM mini AirPlay2 to the speakers but this WiiM never worked right and now the optical out is broken so I am getting a very basic Belkin soundwave AirPlay2 to see if that will be more stable. So thank you for that suggestion. All this highlights that there are not many inexpensive speakers or DACs with HDMI inputs. Keep up the great work!❤

  • @Undead.Musicphile
    @Undead.Musicphile8 ай бұрын

    Many thanks for this video. I don't care for surround sound either😊. I was trying to plan a new setup. This video has made it so much easier. Many thanks from canadian 🇨🇦 novice audiophile.

  • @smayaan2479
    @smayaan2479 Жыл бұрын

    Really great content! So much to learn about music setups

  • @beetooex
    @beetooex Жыл бұрын

    I've always got to be different lol. I use a PC as the source for all audio and video. Audio goes from usb dongle dac to old school stereo amp and the TV is just a dumb screen. Wireless keyboard with trackpad controls everything from the sofa. Windows isn't a slick interface for the living room but it's a price worth paying for the ability to access any content on any service ever uploaded to the internet.

  • @richardbuckingham4329
    @richardbuckingham4329 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, I found it very informative. I love the idea of connecting my Apple TV with some AirPlay speakers, so I think I’ll start looking into that.

  • @derekfarione8729
    @derekfarione8729 Жыл бұрын

    This video was a great find as I was just going to do this. thank you!

  • @stuartphoenix6117
    @stuartphoenix6117 Жыл бұрын

    Those bang and olufsen look amazing.

  • @secondyip
    @secondyip Жыл бұрын

    It is a very clear introduction as usual. I prefer HDMI ARC because it is one of the most popular ones in the market. 😊

  • @basilandrigsby
    @basilandrigsby Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video. Super clear explanation. Thank you. I’m running Apple TV into Lyngdorf 1120. Sounds great. I just picked up an hdmi splitter box with eARC built in as TV didn’t have one. Coming in at 24bit 48khz and I don’t need the TV on at all. Controlled by my phone. It’s my version of Apple connect. Hooray! 🎉

  • @Big-J-8579
    @Big-J-8579 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Good information. Multi-Channel does not work well for urban apartment dwellers in my opinion. It is more a single home owner format. I am blessed to have a theater room and a separate 2-channel room. So I enjoy both worlds. Though I spend most of my alone time in the 2-channel room. When our daughter comes over, we enjoy movies in the theater room.

  • @chrismuc4023
    @chrismuc4023 Жыл бұрын

    This video fits my needs perfectly.👍

  • @bmwheeler1atverizon
    @bmwheeler1atverizon Жыл бұрын

    did not know about WISA...thank you again.

  • @mat_v
    @mat_v Жыл бұрын

    Hi John, tried most of the options you presented and if you want an upgrade in sound quality for your tv I’d recommend adding an Nidia shield pro, it has a usb audio output at 192k that sounded a whole lot better to my ears than toslink and airplay. Even better with a decent DDC converter in the signal path. Thanks for the great content and happy listening!

  • @Max-nf4jc
    @Max-nf4jc Жыл бұрын

    Great vid as always! I prefer watching tv through my hi-fi stereo set up too, for the same reasons as you stated. Even so, I think there a lot of people, including myself, that would like to have the capability of running a centre channel speaker for movie watching, from a ‘stereo’ amp rather than an AVR with multi-channel capability, which I think can compromise the quality and output of sound…. I think audio companies are missing a trick. What are your thoughts….? Thanks

  • @pascalblond7539
    @pascalblond7539 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent 👌 logical and fair 👍 Merci 🙏🏻 📺 🎶

  • @johndn9238
    @johndn92386 ай бұрын

    Extremely helpful, thank you. (P.S. also with you on the multi-channel attitude!)

  • @stevo9308
    @stevo9308 Жыл бұрын

    I recently bought the Sonos Amp solely for the HDMI Arc to connect a stereo pair of bookshelves to my LG CX. I am also more focused on music, mostly streaming, but having found I can also connect Sonos speakers/subs wirelessly via WiFi, I've now got a 4.1 setup with little hassle. Great sounding music and enhanced experience for movies - best of both in my eyes.

  • @WildReefer
    @WildReefer Жыл бұрын

    I'm with you on this one. My take is that you can have a great stereo system for music, and it'll usually do an almost-as-great job with movies as well (especially the dialogue and bassy explosions) - but in most cases, in my experience at least, when playing music over even a "pretty good" home cinema setup, the music usually sounds terrible and really over-processed, and it seems to take a lot of tweaking just to get a less terrible sound out of it. I'm done chasing the evolving audio standards of the video world, to the point that I just bought a TCL TV with a built-in "Harmon/Kardon" sound bar and called it a day since currently my TV and stereo are on opposite sides of my lounge. Maybe I'll invest in a good value soundbar for the bedroom TV because its built in speakers are the usual average junk you find on most TV's, but that's about as far as I'm willing to invest in it right now.

  • @milanberic9212
    @milanberic92126 ай бұрын

    Well done thank you!

  • @scottscottsdale7868
    @scottscottsdale7868 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I totally agree with you on all of it. I use optical out. But I will say that with Apple TV the remote does control both content selection and volume control. At least in my system.

  • @timbaker4879
    @timbaker4879 Жыл бұрын

    I have the same frame tv hooked up to a Sonos Beam with surrounds for tv and via toslink to my “gappy” Audiolab 6000a play and it all works marvelouslly! Thanks

  • @AndrewYates179
    @AndrewYates179 Жыл бұрын

    Great and useful video.

  • @charlessterba5665
    @charlessterba5665 Жыл бұрын

    i'm primarily a vinyl and tube amp guy but wanted to use my klipsch forte iv's with my tv. figured it'd be kind of a waste to have them sitting there idly while using the tv's poor internal speakers or a sound bar. i picked up a bluesound node, connected it to my integrated amp, and used the eARC connection between the node and my tv. i also used the node for occasional music streaming via airplay from my macbook to at least take advantage of the better sample rate over bluetooth. this mostly worked fine, but occasionally the audio would frustratingly drop while using eARC and i'd have to toggle the audio output on my tv to fix it. not sure if it was my hisense tv or the node causing the problem, but i eventually got annoyed with it and decided it also wasn't worth burning my tubes watching tv, so i recently got a pioneer vsx-lx305 home theater receiver and a beresford tc-7210 switch. now i have my speakers connected to the output of the switch, and my home theater receiver and 2 channel tube amp connected to both inputs, and i can switch between them as needed. not the most elegant solution, but the pioneer sounds surprisingly good and gives me access to some useful features even just for 2 channel use.

  • @krom447
    @krom447 Жыл бұрын

    HDMI Arc audio extractor as other way to connect HDMI Arc if your system do not have HDMI Arc input by default.

  • @JohnWilmot1179

    @JohnWilmot1179

    Жыл бұрын

    I've bought one of these because my smart tv has only HDMI ARC output for the audio but my my amplifier hasn't got an HDMI input port. The quality of the audio is non very good though...

  • @bonzostarr
    @bonzostarr11 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @JBOsurf
    @JBOsurf Жыл бұрын

    I run a bluesound node as my preamp and dac, a peachtree grand integrated x1 as a pure power amp, and a set of Larsen 4.3 speakers up against the wall (which is how they are designed to work). The node is connected to my sony tv via HDMI eARC. Sound is outstanding. The bass performance is such that my REL subwoofer is currently in a box in my shed.

  • @KolfMAKER
    @KolfMAKER Жыл бұрын

    What a great video and explanation! For me especially the last 2 chapters about AppleTV/AirPlay and WISA. I have been looking for quite some time to get a TV's audio to wireless speakers, but without the delay. Very interesting to learn that with the combination Apple TV and AirPlay the audio/video synchronization is also handled. Perfect! I hope you can answer two questions for me: (1) If I would buy a TV that has AirPlay built-in, would that also be able to handle the audio/video synchronization? (Like you mentioned that the AppleTV box does) (2) Does the audio/video synchronization also work with AirPlay gen. 1, or just with AirPlay2? Hope to hear from you!

  • @mrkitewine7700
    @mrkitewine7700 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks John, I use toslink into a my dac (Schiit modi 3+) for when I want to put my tv through the hifi. I’m looking to upgrade the dac (Ares ii or the new Bifrost 2/64), but I’ll be keeping hold of the modi as I believe there are some DACs (Denafrips Ares ii being a notable one) that create a very noticeable lag whilst processing the audio. Obviously this is not an issue with pure audio, but when you want that to be synced with a visual image then it is tricky, hence I’m keeping the Modi for that purpose. Thanks for the great channel, I particularly like the way you focus on the music, as after all that’s what it’s all about. Cheers

  • @Ade5
    @Ade5 Жыл бұрын

    My limit is at a 5.1 system.. And that seems to be the standard in the industry since Atmos(and all the others systems I dont about know.. like you) movies pretty much always have a 5.1 compatibility track along with all the Atmos-stuff.. So I dont need to bother with all the atmos and what not eithet

  • @ronnytm
    @ronnytm Жыл бұрын

    I use toslink out, since my amp doesn't have HDMI in. Got a Google TV dongle and programmed the included remote to adjust the volume of my hifi amp. It has replaced both my tv and hifi remotes which is a nice elegant solution for me.

  • @mistafishman
    @mistafishman Жыл бұрын

    This video covers so many great points. I will say, as much as I do love surround sound, a well set up stereo system with movies/tv is very enjoyable. Not too mention has a lower cost of entry (I’m a college student 😅). Curious to see how much surround music is released in the future as I know Tidal and Apple Music both have Atmos tracks now; still very very small % of library though. Kraftwerk’s Boing Boom Tschak (Live) in Atmos is a blast. Didn’t know about Bluetooth out of TVs until now, gotta look into that 😃

  • @bikeman7982
    @bikeman7982 Жыл бұрын

    Hey John, I like your pragmatic and geeky approach to HiFi! Very different from many other reviewers who do nothing but throw around nebulous adjectives about sound quality. I have a LG TV connected to my HiFi DAC via toslink. Works great except for a minor annoyance. I sometimes connect the TV to my AirPods Pro via bluetooth for late night watching. When I disconnect AirPods the TV reverts back to the internal speakers instead of toslink. I wish it would just revert to the previous selection.

  • @mtmals9786
    @mtmals9786 Жыл бұрын

    Clear as a bell..thanks

  • @RocketLauncherwithInfiniteAmmo
    @RocketLauncherwithInfiniteAmmo Жыл бұрын

    My tv is a bit older and connects to my Dac with digital coax, just thought that was worth mentioning also. Good video and a more and more relevant topic these days.

  • @Cypher_NZ
    @Cypher_NZ Жыл бұрын

    You really need to check out the nvidia sheild. It is the one for all streaming device. USB Dacs work flawlessley with the shield.

  • @khuti007
    @khuti007 Жыл бұрын

    Thx for the info

  • @artoutlawphoto
    @artoutlawphoto4 ай бұрын

    I'm using a logitech Bluetooth, this was the only option for me as I have a late 80's technics amp. It doesn't have delay it works perfectly with the image, and also has volume control. It transformed my audio setup. The technics su-v 500 still holds up good

  • @KirtFitzpatrick
    @KirtFitzpatrick Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! That was really helpful. I've been looking at the new TV4k and scratching my head on how connect it to my hifi without losing audio quality. I have a lossless audio collection ripped from CD and the modest goal of simply trying to maintain lossless CD quality audio through the entire chain. That is so much harder than it sounds. But I think the answer might be Airplay over wired ethernet. For some reason I forgot that Airplay doesn't have to go over the air, any ethernet will do. I'll try it out. Hopefully wired doesn't have to buffer as much.

  • @ianbusby2845
    @ianbusby28453 ай бұрын

    Thanks John,didn’t realise I could connect my Apple TV to my Cambridge Audio CXA81 wirelessly till you got me thinking.I love stereo for music but use a separately wired soundbar for tv/movies as the dialogue is impossible to follow otherwise.Thx

  • @lorenzocriscuolo7869
    @lorenzocriscuolo7869 Жыл бұрын

    I did not know about the Apple TV routing audio to an external DAC.It would definitely improve the sound on my system,since the DAC on the Linn streamer is much better,obviously. Thanks!

  • @nwestmoreland1
    @nwestmoreland1 Жыл бұрын

    John, you mentioned an audio delay when using an R2R DAC like the Denafrips Ares II. Does your Samsung Frame TV or the LG OLED you reviewed offer options to correct the lip sync delay?

  • @lemanouchecbien1
    @lemanouchecbien1 Жыл бұрын

    No tv for me but i always enjoy your videos.

  • @marcfoss7687
    @marcfoss7687 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, very useful video. I have a small smart TV which has WiFi and Bluetooth built in. However, it does not have aptX HD or LL. If I buy a separate Bluetooth transmitter with aptX HD/LL, can I still use it with the TVs inbuilt Bluetooth? Thank you.

  • @angrygirl7083
    @angrygirl7083 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your great content. Regarding the television-sets: I ALWAYS have issues with the S/PDIF output. Wonder why manufactures can't built in a proper connection like the one on my Marantz CD6006

  • @bwm999
    @bwm999 Жыл бұрын

    Or…. I have a topping Dac connected to the USB socket on the TV (Sony With Google TV OS). Automatically mutes the TV speakers and does full bit rate (via Amazon Music TV app for example). Try it.

  • @CamiloSoto

    @CamiloSoto

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello there! I have thought to do that very same route. I have an amp and a Phillips TV (Android TV) + Chromecast with Google TV, and I saw a Topping Dac tempted to buy it, first thinking to use the optical cable or looking to connect it directly by USB to the TV, but I doubted that work, I haven't found a very clear answer on the internet. How did you manage to make it work?, and it recognizes more than 48kh for example?.

  • @robjones3420
    @robjones3420 Жыл бұрын

    When I bought my Hifi system, I also wanted this connected to my TV system. The best advice I got was to forget centre channel speaker and get the best Hifi speakers I could afford. As my main aim was analogue system. However it’s brilliant with TV and the whole family get the benefit. It poses issues thou, as when we visit friends and watch a film/TV the family often do not like it. For anyone interested system is Moon 600i integrated amp Sonus Fabre olympica iii speakers Old Yamaha Av amp Sonus Fabre book shelf rears Rel sub

  • @Wim-Minnaard
    @Wim-Minnaard Жыл бұрын

    Hi John, thanks for another informative video. You mentioned bluetooth as an option. I found using BT connection to my the Frame 2022 very poor. Stream frequently drops an crackles. Got this using both airpods pro gen 2 and sennheiser urbanite. Do you have better experience with such a combination? Thanks, Wim

  • @RickPollux
    @RickPollux Жыл бұрын

    Right now I have my active speakers (Presonus Eris 4.5) connected via the headphone out (aux/rca). I’m guessing the dac of the tv isn’t the best. I don’t want a soundbar. I love the sound of the speakers but I think they could sound better with a better dac. I see a lot of simple, very cheap, straight forward dac (or ‘audio extractors’) for sale, but I’m guessing they aren’t any better. Is it worth buying an expensive dac, like the Nad Amp1? Wich to me looks like the dac with the least extra’s (that I’m paying for but dont use) P.S. I do all my streaming via Playstation or Spotify Connect on my tv. It seems very difficult to just upgrade the sound quality for gaming, movies and music to stereo speakers. Do you have any suggestions? The Nad Amp2 seems like my only option, but is it worth it while my speakers are connected via rca?

  • @RodneyAllanPoe
    @RodneyAllanPoe Жыл бұрын

    Good video. 2.0 is the way. I had a plasma TV for 11 years and just bought an QD-OLED TV. For both I used optical out into my CD player/DAC and muted TV sound. Sensational. But I'm not sure how the Neilsen ratings box is going to pickup TV analogue audio without analogue outs... the Neilsen tech is visiting next week. 🙂

  • @RobertBorley
    @RobertBorley Жыл бұрын

    Ok John. Good video. Now do one for connecting a TV in the other direction. IE for rich visuals of now playing content, album art, visuals to accompany music such as slideshows and visualisers. I have options for all of the above, but it took some figuring out and a video like this would have been very useful… Requirements: Smart TV Apple TV Roon Roon remote AppleTV app Radio Paradise Plex M1 Mac Mini connected via HDMI The holy grail for me is a decent visualiser with no lag, like the one on PlexAmp but for a TV.

  • @chrisforoglou8506
    @chrisforoglou8506 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video, it’s very clear. I have just purchased an“ audio extractor” to connect my new Hisense TV to my Sima PW 3000 amp via TOSLINK. The sound quality is very disappointing. I suspect it’s the quality of the audio extractor (poor DAC). Is my assumption correct? Can you recommend a few DAC’s that are in the $80-$200 price range?

  • @TOMMY2678
    @TOMMY2678 Жыл бұрын

    Hi @Darko Audio, I would like to hear what you think about the German Budget Brand Teufel. I never heard of it before but it seems to be more up and coming where I'm from. And their combo packs just seem to be, too good to be true, considering the price level.

  • @timdunn4302
    @timdunn4302 Жыл бұрын

    Old school here, RCA out from the TV into my Rotel RA03

  • @weireg959
    @weireg9599 ай бұрын

    Sir, I want to ask, I have an old hifi model aiwa, I want to connect my hifi with my lg smart tv, which is better to use hdmi cable or optical cable, for the best sound quality??

  • @jimfarrell4635
    @jimfarrell4635 Жыл бұрын

    I guess I'm going to be that guy who says you are missing out on multichannel music, though I understand entirely your reasons. Starting with SACD and moving on to DVD-Audio, then Blu-ray Audio and now Dolby Atmos on Blu-ray I have loved multichannel mixes of some of my favourite albums over the years. And Dolby Atmos on Blu-ray is astonishing. Still niche but I'm hoping this time it will take off. I do find Atmos on streaming disappointing so far, however.

  • @dennismanning6684

    @dennismanning6684

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't have atmos height speakers installed but the mix down to 7.1 on the only album I know of, "Point" Yello, SACD, Atmos is really fun to listen to with the sound/sound stage moving around the room. Any others you recommend?

  • @landpro28
    @landpro285 ай бұрын

    Amazing! Thanks! I am also realising that AirPlay shouldn’t be thought as only wireless - we can certainly wire Apple TV and speakers via ethernet. I don’t believe that all people realise that. However I am also not sure if it can give any improvement to the sound quality/ bit rate - my guess would be no, unless AirPlay has a downsampling algorithm for when connection isn’t good enough. I hope it doesn’t. Thanks a lot for your brilliant content ❤

  • @greatpix
    @greatpix Жыл бұрын

    I just went through this after buying the new Hisense U8H tv and using an older Yamaha RX-V375 to play through stereo speakers. I also use a PC as my media server/video streamer/etc and the Yamaha wasn't capable of passing the best signal the PC put out over HDMI. So HDMI was out, at least if I wanted the best image. Luckily I had several lengths of TOSLINK cable and used one of those, set the output to PCM and everything has worked fine.

  • @geraldmcmullon2465

    @geraldmcmullon2465

    Жыл бұрын

    I use an HDMI de-bedder. There are models for stereo only and for 8 channel. The control for volume level is from the computer. I set up active analogue speakers to be at the same volume level front and rear and just use the Windows sound slider. The same box works with a DVD or Bluray player passing the picture to a screen (I use a 65" monitor). I have used Toslink to a stereo pair of speakers but there was no method for the speakers to scale up to surround in a 5.5 system (Devialet Phantom Gold)..My old TV and my computer have Toslink out (PCM stereo or compress 5.1) and the computer and DVD player have Coaxial. My floor standing speakers have analogue and Coaxial inputs but for surround I am stuck with analogue.

  • @ponty1001
    @ponty1001 Жыл бұрын

    I had connected two JBL MKII studio monitors with my TV using a Hi res DAC ( FIIO BT30 Pro) in between using optical cable from tv to dac and RCAto XLR cable from DAC to Speaker. I must say I am getting sound which is captivating. Mesmerizing. Just two studio minitors. No sub. Still sound is like movies hall

  • @joostw-69
    @joostw-69 Жыл бұрын

    I use a Linn Akurate DSM with HDMI 2.0 as the heart of my system. TV is connected via HDMI ARC, because of the apps on the TV. All other HDMI and non HDMI sources are connected to the DSM. The DSM has so many connection options, it is almost a nobrainer as the heart of my system.

  • @itsjusterthought7941
    @itsjusterthought79419 ай бұрын

    Hi DA ...interesting video. I'm with you on the stereo music priority thing. I actually use my game console to play the music from a USB HD, so music and game sound go to the TV via HDMI. My current TV has a stereo headphone out, so that goes to phono sockets on my old audio system. TV, game and music in high quality stereo. When I upgrade to a smart TV with eARC HDMI audio out, I will need an eARC audio extractor to grab analogue audio from the eARC HDMI signal via its internal DAC. Phono outputs on the converter will then send analogue audio to my audio amp. So I will get hifi stereo sound from TV, games and the all important music. My only concern is whether eARC extraction creates any audio delay. No problem for the music, but movies and games need perfect synchronisation. The Orei HDA 932 eARC audio extractor claims no audio lag, so hopefully they use a high quality DAC. They do make a higher quality version the Orei HDA 939 eARC audio extractor, but that has features I do not need. I'm avoiding the surround sound via sound bars because I feel they lack the quality of stereo speakers when listening to music and a full on multi speaker surround stereo receiver would be prohibitively expensive to achieve the sound quality I currently have in stereo.

  • @tjerkeikmans4561
    @tjerkeikmans4561 Жыл бұрын

    Hi John! I love your videos very much. Lately I’ve seen more budget focused reviews and I really learn a lot. My question is: are you going to review any exotic brands like Mola Mola or dCS in the future? I know that it may not be the best time to ask, but I love your excitement after listening to that segment. Hope to hear from you, keep on with the good stuff. Greetings Tjerk

  • @overworkin1
    @overworkin19 ай бұрын

    Hi John. Love your channel. I have a 2020 Samsung Frame and I get the eArc to work but how do I stop the frame using eArc by default. I switch to the speaker and it switches back to HDMI automatically after a few seconds! I only want use the HDMI when streaming music to my Node.. thanks

  • @trumskolan
    @trumskolan Жыл бұрын

    Great video as always! Audio two channel pcm from apple music or Tidal via Tv apps via hdmi... arc or eArc? Does arc pass out hi res two channel audio or do i need eArc? Thankz a zillion!

  • @dennismanning6684

    @dennismanning6684

    Жыл бұрын

    eARC has a lot more bandwidth but it and ARC are HDMI protocols and both have plenty of bandwidth for HiRes PCM; it falls to the TV and APS to not downsample it.

  • @Panotaker
    @Panotaker4 ай бұрын

    I want to do it the other way. How do you connect your streamer so the albums art work show up on your TV, but you still get the hi-res audio to come out of your speakers. Right now I use an old 2011 Apple mini with all my music on it running Jriver media center and tidal, which has an HDMI output, so it displays my album art on the TV. But I’m thinking of getting rid of the Apple Mini, and get an Eversolo with a SSD, but how do I get my Album art on the TV with that?

  • @EastSide_Motel

    @EastSide_Motel

    Ай бұрын

    If you find an answer let me know, this bloke always has the album art work in his YT videos and looks cool.

  • @marcusaurelius2988
    @marcusaurelius2988 Жыл бұрын

    If you use the HDMI earc output of the TV, do you also need the HDMI eArc of the soundbar? Or the HDMI arc/HDMI will suffice on the soundbar?

  • @ekimandersom4478

    @ekimandersom4478

    Жыл бұрын

    They both need eArc

  • @filipepaninho6558
    @filipepaninho6558 Жыл бұрын

    Another advantage nowadays is that we can use the streamer on modern TVs :)

  • @GOLFADDICT65
    @GOLFADDICT656 ай бұрын

    looking to do a 2:1 set up for my TV.....moving away from a sound bar....i have narrowed it down to these 4 sets ups and i am curious about what you think and what anyone thinks would be best for my needs.. SVS PRIME WIRELESS PRO SPEAKERS / EDIFIER R2850DB's WITH SUB / EDIFIER S3000PRO's NO SUB / KLIPSCH THE SEVENS WITH SUB or NINES which would you recommend and rate them....thx in advance....cheers from Vulcan Canada

  • @chriskulkens7654
    @chriskulkens7654 Жыл бұрын

    I Use toslink from my 10 year old Samsung plasma into my 20 year old sony 5.1 receiver and ENJOY 5.1 multi Channel soundtrack movies DTS. Or dolby digital are both supported via toslink

  • @realkevintaylor
    @realkevintaylor8 ай бұрын

    I’m legally blind and I’m into audio fully but I agree with you. Nothing sounds better than a good stereo mix I don’t like these 5.1 or 7.1 set ups. They’re way too complex. I’ll have people over at the house and put on a movie or music With stereo and sometimes they’re blown away by how great it sounds.

  • @DiRazor
    @DiRazor Жыл бұрын

    I use a Chinese HDMI ARC audio extractor. With a linear power supply and spdif 'purifier' it plays quite well 😅

  • @rolandlickert2904
    @rolandlickert2904 Жыл бұрын

    Agree to many cables threfore I keep it simple and use optical cable

  • @iuricolomiet5576
    @iuricolomiet5576 Жыл бұрын

    That is so complicated 😁 I'm using just 3.5mm stereo jack to RCA cable, connected to AUX input. That's it 😁

  • @davetester100

    @davetester100

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, I started doing that back in the 80’s when tv sound was pretty poor!

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