I TRUST YOU LORD! Thank you Jesus! Jesus please save us come soon I’m holding on and keeping faith. Waiting for the rapture. I keep faith even as I constantly struggle to provide for my kids and I constantly struggling to buy groceries. My husband is with you God. At times I feel so alone especially as a single mom. Since suffering a heart attack two years ago and my on going battle with lupus I’m overwhelmed. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m now homeschooling them so my hours to work are limited. Thankfully I have you Lord! I know you will continue to provide you have this far. Faith over fear! Praise God and his son Yeshua!

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

May God bless you! *Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Stuart Rocks!

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

AMEN 🙏👊❤️. Salvation is by God's Grace through Faith in Christ our Lord

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@theodoreritola7641

3 күн бұрын

WESLEY TELL EVERY ONE THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE IN OSAS DOES,OR CAN JESUS CHRIST EVER ,,, UN ,,,REDEEM HIS OWN AFTER HE ,,, HAS ,,,REDEEMED,,,, THEM IS JESUS CHRIST AN INDIAN GIVER WESLEY?WESLEY ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO ANSWER YES OR NO OR ARE YOU A COWARD?

all things are possible!

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Amen, great video and an excellent explanation.

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

you Protestants are so brain washed this is a lie of the devil

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@JJ-ki7zf

8 сағат бұрын

​@@wesleynunez3825 Please Repent Brother. You are the one spreading false doctrine. Please repent in the name of Jesus Christ.

@wesleynunez3825

8 сағат бұрын

@@JJ-ki7zf No, I am not. People that believe once saved always saved, faith alone, dispensationalist, free grace, easy believism, Calvanist will quote these verses OUT OF CONTEXT and ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. Yes, obeying Jesus is required for salvation. Read the entire chapter for these verses because there are CONDITIONS to God’s promises that they willfully ignore.

@wesleynunez3825

8 сағат бұрын

@@JJ-ki7zf Also, my family in Christ are those who hear the words of God and do them (Luke 8:19-21)

Great !

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Is eternal security a license to sin? Yes and no. Yes, in that you still have freewill to choose how to behave. No, in that scripture directs us specifically how to behave, and that God will discipline those who willfully sin, and they will burn up work and reward.

@phileognosis

9 ай бұрын

thank you

@TyVodd

9 ай бұрын

Yep perfectly said, also if people don't ask you if the Gospel is a license to sin, odds are you might not be preaching the right Gospel. Paul was asked this question (Rom 6:1)

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@jedimasterham2

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 We do "obey" God when we believed in Jesus. For instance: Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." - So what is the "will of my Father"? John 6:40 "For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” What you're doing is distorting the meaning of "obey" to mean works-salvation. The above quote in Matthew 7 is Jesus referring to people who distort this to mean works-salvation. Jesus harshly warns that He will tell many of these people He never knew them, because they relied on their works to save them (thinking this is how one obeys), and never actually trusted in Jesus to save them. Have you actually trusted in Jesus, or are you relying on your works to save you? If you've never trusted in Jesus, I encourage you to believe in only Jesus (not your works) to save you.

@jedimasterham2

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 With respect, you're preaching works-salvation, which is a false gospel. Scripture says we should obey, but you're distorting the word to falsely imply works-salvation. Consider the below scriptures: Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. - Questions: So what is the "will of my Father"?? How do we enter into heaven? John 6:40 "For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” We obey God by believing in Jesus Christ as God and savior. What you're doing is perverting the gospel to mean works-salvation. Matthew 7 actually addresses people like you to warn you away from this. Jesus warns people who rely on their works to save them that He never knew them, because they relied on their works to save them, but never actually trusted in Jesus Christ to save them. So have you actually trusted in Jesus to save you, or are you relying on your works to save you?

Amen I needed this because I'm OSAS

@devinbrown285

9 ай бұрын

OSAS is only for those who endure to the end. There are plenty of scriptures to prove someone can lose their salvation. Take a look. Philippians 3:18-19, 2 Chronicles 15:2, 1 Timothy 4:1, Hebrews 6:4-6, Hebrews 10:35-39, Matthew 24:13.

@irunsauce6437

9 ай бұрын

@@devinbrown285 lose salvation by what

@curiousgeorge555

9 ай бұрын

@@devinbrown285 "OSAS is only for those who endure to the end." You do realise that's a mutually exclusive statement, no? I think you are referring to the "perseverance of the saints". Those who ARE saved will persevere until the end.

@curiousgeorge555

9 ай бұрын

@@devinbrown285 There are 3 times as many Bible verses that appear to indicate that you cannot lose your salvation - if you have truly been born of The Spirit. If you have repented and believed The Gospel.

@brohuggie2978

9 ай бұрын

@@devinbrown285 None of those scriptures say one can lose salvation... read the context friend, you are listening too much to preachers who preach another doctrine.

When we're born again spiritually of the holy spirit, we are transformed and we genuinely want to avoid sin and go out of our way to not offend God. Jesus paid the sin debt in full. True repentance, and Jesus saving grace is eternal and never ends.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@pheonixred1498

Ай бұрын

Yes take you own advice there buddy.

OSAS doesn’t make any sense. If true, then there’s no point in following the rest of the Bible If you say the person never really was saved, that’s means you could be that person as well. Because you don’t have infallible knowledge of the future.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

So true similarly When Paul says he wishes he could be cut off for the sake of his people Israel, in Romans 9, proves, calvinism did not exist back then, either, Neither OSAS! Terms like shipped, wrecked their faith, backslidden, etc. and John 10 is word specific about snatching out of Jesus hand ! OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@brohuggie2978

9 ай бұрын

@@jjphank Wait just a minute, What did Jesus actually say in these few verses?? John 3:15-16 15 That whosoever BELIEVETH in him should NOT PERISH, but HAVE ETERNAL LIFE 16 For God so lived the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVETH in HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE. John 3:36 He that BELIEVETH on the SON HATH everlasting life and he that beleiveth NOT the Son shall NOT see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 5:24 Verily, Verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and BELIEVETH on Him that sent me, HATH everlasting life; and SHALL NOT come into condemnation, but is passed from death unto life. John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that everyone that seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH on HIM may HAVE everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:47 Verily, Verily, I say unto you, He that BELIEVETH on me HATH everlasting life. John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and BELIEVETH in me shall NEVER DIE believest thou this? John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they SHALL NEVER PERISH, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. John 17:3 And this is life eternal that they might know the the only true God, whom thou has sent.

@phileognosis

9 ай бұрын

@@jjphankosas didn’t come from calvinism☠️ kzread.info/dash/bejne/omyjxKxworCsqMY.htmlsi=fMWnVs33bPKBgbtd

@Christ60

3 ай бұрын

Most certainly makes sense because Jesus literally said it is finished on the cross when he died. Our behavior and works do matter after we are saved but it has nothing to do with our salvation at all. Once our works are tried on judgement day all of us saved people will most definitely wish we had better behavior or works because the rewards in heaven is beyond comprehension of what this physical realm can deliver

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Exactly! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *I am telling them to read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Can't have it both ways because there are people who legitimately believed, then rejected a belief. And what is Stuart's gauge of legitimate belief?

@ninjacoach1

9 ай бұрын

I agree with this

@Dolphin._.

9 ай бұрын

He doesn't have one. Because legitimate believers would always stay and can't be an apostate. But if a believer does become an apostate, they weren't believers. There are too many warning passages in the Bible speaking to believers. So osas wouldn't make sense.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

True- OSAS- 3 verses in the Bible say your name can be blotted out of the book of life; Psalm 69:28, revelation 3:5, 22:19! Never receiving Jesus is not the only way to go to hell Says Matthew 7:21-23 ; verse 23 ‘away from me I never knew you’ does not apply to everybody, Jesus says this twice in verses 21 and 22! “Not everyone will say to me (on that day)……., yes many will say…..” If OSAS was true he would’ve said “everyone and all” instead of “not everyone and Many”! So not everyone will go to hell based on never knowing Jesus, and other verses will back this up as well! you can no longer use Matthew 7:23 to say they were never saved to begin with! Same with 2 Peter 2 “after knowing the Lord, they went back into their vomit as a dog; or back into the mud as a pig wallowing in the mud”. The word ‘knowing’ is the same word in Matthew 7:23, it’s ‘ginosko’ in the Greek- it’s a salvific relationship with Jesus! So you can lose your salvation, says this verse as well! 2 Peter 2:20 “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning!” THEY ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CORRUPTION OF THE WORLD…AGAIN- says this verse! Jude 12 - “twice dead”; Dead in sin, born again, dead again! And there’s many more; Revelation chapters 2 & 3 are full of ultimatums and all Jesus is focused on is our works! Revelation 2: 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place! Revelation 2:14 there are some among you….. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. These are just 2 and Jesus says “he who overcomes” , Overcomes is present active- future tense, and Jesus says this to all 7 churches, even the 2 good ones! You have to stay faithful to the end of your life to go to heaven! John 3:16 is he who believes, or continues to believe will have eternal life! it doesn’t say ‘believed’ past tense, you have to maintain your faith to go to heaven! The Greek word ‘believes’ is ‘Pistis’ which basically means faithfulness so faith equals faithfulness, according to the Bible! So if you have problems with this, then you have problems with the word of God, the Bible! You need to study these passages so that you can make it to heaven! If your pastor cannot answer these questions according to what I just said, then you need to leave that church!

@kelvin929

9 ай бұрын

You are correct and the truth is apostates that believed on Jesus for salvation are still saved. Stuart is wrong period.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

@@kelvin929 If anybody went apostate, they’re not saved! First, John 1:7 “if you walk in the light as he is in the light… The blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin !” So, if you don’t walk in the light, that means you’re still in willful sin, the blood of Jesus will Not cleanse you from all sin ! God is patient and he works with us to get us out of sin! he who the son sets free, is free indeed ! Jesus has the power to set someone completely free from willful sin, talking about addiction problems, or sinful habits !

Stuarts's mannerisms are a carbon copy of Cliffe. 😉

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Let's say someone once truly believed OSAS, even got promises from God regarding Eternal Security, and then was really disappointed by some actions of God in his/her life and decides willingly do evil in the sight of God, seek and do orgies, and think that for he/she it is acceptable to live this way until death and suffer consequences of such actions, and after death Eternity with God is also acceptable. This one will be Saved? All rewards will be lost if he/she got anything before such actions, or some rewards still be left for him/her?

With the format I'm on to use this phone I don't have an edit button so I cannot edit my comment that is down below. Please understand it's not exactly what it's supposed to say. Please just try to read through my typos. I'm very sorry, please understand thank you, God bless you.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

OSAS isn't a license to sin. Leaving the faith means you weren't saved to begin with

@mikeramos91

9 ай бұрын

Not necessarily. I’ve known ppl that really got saved & loved the lord but after sometime with life they decided to give it up & leave. Just like when you get married, you can decide to cut off the relationship & divorce. Anyone of us are capable of leaving the faith. That’s why it’s called fighting the good fight. Finishing the race, enduring to the end.

@SahihChristian

9 ай бұрын

@@mikeramos91 Nah! They never genuinely trusted in God as their savior. John even made reference to this. He was talking about fellow disciples that were with them. Take a look 1 John 2:19 [19]They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. You see?? Their leaving the faith was a testament that they were never of the fold.

@dansmith9724

9 ай бұрын

Becoming a Christian isn't a licence to sin but we live in a fallen world and Christians aren't perfect and will still sin. Jesus Christ payed for our sins, past present and future. Even as Christians, to say we never sin is a big call.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

@@SahihChristian not true read my comment below on Matthew 7:21-23, Addressing these verses directly! OSAS- 3 verses in the Bible say your name can be blotted out of the book of life; Psalm 69:28, revelation 3:5, 22:19! Never receiving Jesus is not the only way to go to hell Says Matthew 7:21-23 ; verse 23 ‘away from me I never knew you’ does not apply to everybody, Jesus says this twice in verses 21 and 22! “Not everyone will say to me (on that day)……., yes many will say…..” If OSAS was true he would’ve said “everyone and all” instead of “not everyone and Many”! So not everyone will go to hell based on never knowing Jesus, and other verses will back this up as well! you can no longer use Matthew 7:23 to say they were never saved to begin with! Same with 2 Peter 2 “after knowing the Lord, they went back into their vomit as a dog; or back into the mud as a pig wallowing in the mud”. The word ‘knowing’ is the same word in Matthew 7:23, it’s ‘ginosko’ in the Greek- it’s a salvific relationship with Jesus! So you can lose your salvation, says this verse as well! 2 Peter 2:20 “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning!” THEY ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CORRUPTION OF THE WORLD…AGAIN- says this verse! Jude 12 - “twice dead”; Dead in sin, born again, dead again! And there’s many more; Revelation chapters 2 & 3 are full of ultimatums and all Jesus is focused on is our works! Revelation 2: 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place! Revelation 2:14 there are some among you….. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. These are just 2 and Jesus says “he who overcomes” , Overcomes is present active- future tense, and Jesus says this to all 7 churches, even the 2 good ones! You have to stay faithful to the end of your life to go to heaven! John 3:16 is he who believes, or continues to believe will have eternal life! it doesn’t say ‘believed’ past tense, you have to maintain your faith to go to heaven! The Greek word ‘believes’ is ‘Pistis’ which basically means faithfulness so faith equals faithfulness, according to the Bible! So if you have problems with this, then you have problems with the word of God, the Bible! You need to study these passages so that you can make it to heaven! If your pastor cannot answer these questions according to what I just said, then you need to leave that church!

@Julianrocker200

9 ай бұрын

​@@SahihChristianexactly

Totally agree with what Stuart says in this short.

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

You agree with this because you sin every day it’s your excuse thinking your going to heaven. Repent of this wicked doctrine

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@curiousgeorge555

9 ай бұрын

@@nicodemus9105 I pitty folks like you. You have no knowledge of who I am or what my life is about yet you write a comment like this? Says more about you than it does anyone else.

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

@@curiousgeorge555 if you don’t sin every day, why would you agree with his lying doctrine? That’s where this doctrine came from, people saying we can never stop sinning, So they believe that if they confess that Jesus Christ is Lord that they shall be eternally saved. And your response shows your wickedness we shall know a tree by its fruit

@curiousgeorge555

9 ай бұрын

@@nicodemus9105 I agree with what Stuart says so I am wicked? There are countless Godly men throughout the history of the church who agree with Stuart on this point. I would worry about myself if I were you. Don't worry so much about others. Btw, if you don't think you sin everyday in either word, thought or deed, you may know very little of the Spirit of the Holy God. "9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." ~Romans 10:9

Come to Auraria campus in Denver Co it’s 3 colleges on one campus

@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs

7 ай бұрын

Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

The triune God transforms you anew (Romans 12:2), you are a new creation once you are saved (2 Cor 5:17). Christianity is the most reasonable, cohesive explanation for actual, objective reality & real scientific findings, explaining origin (Genesis 1), meaning (Isaiah 43:7), morality (Exodus 20), destiny (Hebrews 9:27), order, logic, reason, sense, beauty from an orderly, logical, sensible, reasonable, beautiful God who has revealed Himself from eyewitnesses (Exodus19/1 Cor 15:6), generally in creation (Romans 1:18) & divinely in His supernaturally prophetic fulfilled in reality (Romans 1:26-32/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible. May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories.

@spooky6902

9 ай бұрын

How do you know God is objectively moral/ prophetic? If your foundation for knowledge is God because of the things you know about God then you are either begging the question or reasoning circularly

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

@@spooky6902 The first 2chapters of the Bible explain how matter energy time, space, and entropy get here when no other worldview can, ! but here’s some psychology , let me know what do you think? You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived folks! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

OSAS is heresy never taught by the early church.

@irunsauce6437

9 ай бұрын

IT HAS FOR MANY OF CENTURIES AND THE EARLY CHURCH

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@brohuggie2978

9 ай бұрын

It was never taught because they didn't know there was any other type of salvation, BUT OSAS

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

@@brohuggie2978 you need to be de- programmed, And stop telling people that once saved always saved is true, when I have proven it with 30 different verses, that OSAS is not true ! every idle word will be judged Matthew 12:36- you’re in danger of going to hell yourself for ushering, idle words, and giving people false hope! James 3, Be You Not many teachers you’ll be judged more harshly !

@brohuggie2978

9 ай бұрын

@@jjphank Man doesn't prove anything Scripture corrects and I know it is hard to take in friend! But try not to ignore correction by God's word

I enjoy listening to the Knechtles but I have to agree with what was said in the recent documentary: “Once Saved Always Saved?”.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@campparsonssundayschool7844

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 Right. I never did believe in OSAS.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

@@campparsonssundayschool7844 Just wanted to warn you just in case. God bless! :)

You said " In John chapter 10 Jesus did not say you're saved so go and do what you want, I agree....... And He did not say follow me to stay saved, or be careful you could lose your salvation, or be sure to repent of your sins every time you sin, to stay saved....

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@brohuggie2978

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 Look like you have problems with scriptures not the people that quote them!

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

@@brohuggie2978 I have no problem with the scriptures. People take verses out of context. That was the main issue presented in my message.

I also believe in osas but I have one thing to add, the book of life is also mentioned as the book of living, which would mean everyone is in the book of life because obviously we are all physically living and when the Bible mentions someone being “blotted out” it would tie to a person before believing blaspheming the Holy Spirit, becoming “reprobate”, etc

@ricksonora6656

4 ай бұрын

The book of life isn’t about carnal life, it’s about spiritual life. “He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son does not have life, but the wrath of God abides upon him.”

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived folks! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@ricksonora6656

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 You’re right about reading in context. Unfortunately, just saying “context” doesn’t mean you grasp it. You didn’t demonstrate that you do. You cite verses such as Romans 3:10 as claimed for grace alone, but it is about all having sinned. You don’t represent those you oppose… knowledgeably (to put it politely). You say they cite Romans 4:1-4. You should go back to 3:28: “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.” Or keep going with verse 5, after all, you said “context,” right? “But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness.” That sure sounds like “faith without works” to me. In fact, that’s the thrust of the whole chapter. You miss the lesson because you don’t know the Old Testament: God justified Abraham judicially, on the basis of belief alone, decades before Abraham justified himself before men through works (what James 2 describes). You need to present arguments, not just make claims for Pharisaical religion. Were the Spirit guiding you, you would know the command to the unsaved is different from the command to the saved. What is Jesus’s command to the unsaved? Repent of your self-righteous religion and trust God alone. Jesus has a further command to those whom He has already saved: Love one another, especially the saved. Do this, and you fulfill all the rest. We are saved unto good works, but only after being saved by grace through faith. By making works a requirement for salvation, you turn the gospel upside down. Thus, the object of your faith is Self, not God; and that’s idolatry.

@FasterYT-fs8yr

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 salvation and discipleship are Two separate things. Stop trying to be self righteous and follow the law to be saved. Those that are saved are dead to the law through Christs blood 🩸

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

@@ricksonora6656 There is a limit of words I can put in my comments so I can't express everything I want to say.

*Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Once saved always saved. Romans 4:5-6

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

It’s funny all you Protestants and Catholics and ect… Love to build false doctrines off of Paul’s writings, you like to take a couple verses and ignore the rest. Funny thing about what you quoted the context is clear as you keep reading the works he is addressing and the people he is talking to. He is addressing works of the Law and circumcision, not works of faith. 2 Peter 3:15-17 address you people that twist Paul’s writing and he calls you uneducated and stupid and weak changeable in views, that twist the scripture to their own DESTRUCTION.

@Santi.musick

9 ай бұрын

@@nicodemus9105 praying for you 🙏

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

@@Santi.musick that’s what I would say

@Santi.musick

9 ай бұрын

@@nicodemus9105 What verses am I "ignoring"?

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

problem is your indoctrinated by protestant garbage and your pastors words. Peter him self checks people like you that twist Paul's writings, 2 peter 3:15-17 as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; 2 Pe 3:15-17. now lets define what untaught and unstable means in the Ancient Greek what the new testament was written in. untaught: uneducated, hence, implied as ignorant or stupid. unstable: weak, changeable in views and attitudes so we see peter calls you uneducated or your ignorant or just stupid, and weak with changeable views and attitudes. repent of this wicked doctrine walk holy like your commanded to, you must have faith and works, Paul is addressing works of the Law and circumcision , you must have works of faith period.@@Santi.musick

What about reconciliation for everyone in the end?

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

Not everyone’s going to heaven most people are going to hell! OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Let me get this clear. Is he distinguishing a difference between leaving the faith and willfully sinning? It sounds like he agrees that committing adultery, murder or any other lust of the flesh will lead us to death despite of being a Christian, but yet if you leave the Christian faith you were never saved and never had a true relationship with God to begin with. The latter, I have to disagree with.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Hello there, don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

liked the disciples illustration

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Revelation 3:5 The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. So your name can be blotted out

@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs

7 ай бұрын

Have you ever lied, stolen, used God's name in vain, looked wuth lust? if so you need to repent today and Believe in Jesus Christ to save you from Hell and go to heaven instead

@davekendall1139

7 ай бұрын

@@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs Amen

@brohuggie2978

5 ай бұрын

@@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs So what you are saying is that the blood of Christ was not sufficiant?

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Yes, it's amazing that they refuse to BELIEVE that. Their names can certainly be blot out. *Don't be deceived folks! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

When Jesus died on the cross who was he saving

@Saul20239

5 ай бұрын

The world

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Ones saved always saved, rest in our Lords sacrifice for salvation. Salvation does not depend in what you do or don’t do. We are sin and live In a sinful body always in constant temptation Romanos 7:4-25. The fruit of the spirit is the testimony of a true believer.A believer in Christ is free from the law, dead for the law. We do not follow the law any more we are dead for the law Jesus set is free from the law. Now that you are free from the law. the holly spirit whom is in you bear fruit.

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

Don’t quote Paul if you don’t even understand what he is talking about, Roman’s 7 talking about his old self as a pharisee how he couldn’t keep the Law. Stop sinning and repent your wicked

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

OSAS- 3 verses in the Bible say your name can be blotted out of the book of life; Psalm 69:28, revelation 3:5, 22:19! Never receiving Jesus is not the only way to go to hell Says Matthew 7:21-23 ; verse 23 ‘away from me I never knew you’ does not apply to everybody, Jesus says this twice in verses 21 and 22! “Not everyone will say to me (on that day)……., yes many will say…..” If OSAS was true he would’ve said “everyone and all” instead of “not everyone and Many”! So not everyone will go to hell based on never knowing Jesus, and other verses will back this up as well! you can no longer use Matthew 7:23 to say they were never saved to begin with! Same with 2 Peter 2 “after knowing the Lord, they went back into their vomit as a dog; or back into the mud as a pig wallowing in the mud”. The word ‘knowing’ is the same word in Matthew 7:23, it’s ‘ginosko’ in the Greek- it’s a salvific relationship with Jesus! So you can lose your salvation, says this verse as well! 2 Peter 2:20 “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning!” THEY ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CORRUPTION OF THE WORLD…AGAIN- says this verse! Jude 12 - “twice dead”; Dead in sin, born again, dead again! And there’s many more; Revelation chapters 2 & 3 are full of ultimatums and all Jesus is focused on is our works! Revelation 2: 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place! Revelation 2:14 there are some among you….. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. These are just 2 and Jesus says “he who overcomes” , Overcomes is present active- future tense, and Jesus says this to all 7 churches, even the 2 good ones! You have to stay faithful to the end of your life to go to heaven! John 3:16 is he who believes, or continues to believe will have eternal life! it doesn’t say ‘believed’ past tense, you have to maintain your faith to go to heaven! The Greek word ‘believes’ is ‘Pistis’ which basically means faithfulness so faith equals faithfulness, according to the Bible! So if you have problems with this, then you have problems with the word of God, the Bible! You need to study these passages so that you can make it to heaven! If your pastor cannot answer these questions according to what I just said, then you need to leave that church!

@mylove4crafts

9 ай бұрын

@@nicodemus9105 I do understand you and I am 💯percent in what you have explane. I could not have explained better what is the gospel of Christ to Jews, and same gospel too come in the last days. Salvation in the last days will not be easy to keep. Today we are under Grace and no more. Why then did Jesus suffer so much if salvation did not depend in Him alone .The gospel of Grace we are living today will come to a end and give the start to another dispensation. In the las day God will work with Israels un believe. They Israelites need to believe Jesus is the true messiah.

@Santi.musick

9 ай бұрын

​@@nicodemus9105you're not sinless, that's delusional

@Santi.musick

9 ай бұрын

​@@jjphankyou're not sinless, that's delusional

The thing is God knows the future so you can’t say lose salvation when God already knows the future

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Yes, God knows the future but He is NOT responsible for your sins. *Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Paul said. WE MUST WORK OUT OUR SALVATION IN FEAR AND TREMBLING. Being "saved" for all time is false teaching. Follow Paul.

@datkiddmixx

9 ай бұрын

Yesss! Philippians 2:12

@karltiedemann7222

9 ай бұрын

No follow Jesus

@ChristIsLordofAll-xb6xv

7 ай бұрын

He says to work out our salvation. Not work for it. Huge difference.

@JasiasR-ss5qm

7 ай бұрын

@ChristIsLordofAll-xb6xv his point still stands tho either way

@ChristIsLordofAll-xb6xv

7 ай бұрын

@@JasiasR-ss5qm Not really tho. There is a huge difference between working out a salvation that is already obtained, which the Bible says is already true for every believer (1 John 5:13) and working for your salvation, which is completely contrary to all of the Bible. Titus 3:4-5 But when the kindness of God our Savior and his love for mankind appeared, he saved us  -not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to his mercy  - through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Works are important. That’s why we have to work out our salvation because good works are a result of the Spirit living inside of us (Galatians 5:22-23). But they are by no means the cause of our salvation. Jesus saves. Not us.

But is it supposed to be literally a book (the Lamb's Book of Life) with literal names written in it or is this just more symbolism? It just gets too confusing with all of this metaphorical stuff. If there really is a God and he inspired the Bible I just wish he could have spelled it out instead of saying one thing and meaning something else. Please, if you're up there, with all due reverence to you, just say what you mean and mean what you say and then there will be much less room for misunderstanding. As things stand at the moment, the things written in the Bible can be taken in so many different ways. It's a recipe for a mess and that's exactly what we've got, a mess.

@brohuggie2978

9 ай бұрын

Can you explain to me what you mean, because I read the bible in context and it makes perfect sense to me?

@JohnCashin

9 ай бұрын

@@brohuggie2978 I'm sure you do read it in context, or at least, you believe you do but do you also realise that there are thousands of different Christian churches all also claiming to "read it in context" too and yet they are disagreeing with each other? That's what I'm talking about. Mind if I ask, which church denomination do you go to and why not another one? I think your answer to that will illustrate the point. You will probably say the other denominations are getting the wrong understanding of the word, right?

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

@@JohnCashin i’ve got science and psychology that prove the Bible true l, which one do you want first??? You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!

@shanezarcone5401

9 ай бұрын

You’re right that there are many things we disagree on, but critically these are not core issues relating to salvation, with some exceptions that I would argue are in fact quite clear if you remove previous biases. The message of the gospel is as clear as it gets, Christ died a sacrificial death so that you could be free from the consequences of your sin. All that He asks if you is to accept that his sacrifice is for you and to trust in Him.

@brohuggie2978

9 ай бұрын

@@JohnCashin Not sure what denomination, or religion you are referring to, but I do not believe in any of them that disagree with scripture context, and I do not belong to any one of them!

Many scriptures show that followers of Christ must endure faithfully to the end in order to be saved. Matthew 24:13 (NIV) says: "The one who stands firm to the end will be saved." In Revelation 2:10, Jesus tells us, “Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown.” Also, why would Jesus tell his followers more than once to "keep on the watch" if they are “once saved always saved”? 2 Peter 2:20 says: “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.” Hebrews 10:26 says that if we practice sin willfully after having received the truth, we will be condemned. Even the apostle Paul said that he disciplined his body and kept it under control so that after preaching to others he wouldn’t be disqualified. (1 Cor 9:27 ESV)

@beautifulcreation3910

3 ай бұрын

In order to endure to the end you need to be saved and have the Holy Spirit, since faith comes from God and not us. If you read Hebrew 10 in his context, it's a warning to the jews to not go back to the animal sacrifices. Because if after receiving the revelation from God, they decide to go back and sin by sacrificing animals, they are basically trumping the grace of God.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

You are right. Don't listen to people who do NOT BELIEVE the clear words of God. *I am warning others to NOT be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Awww well isn’t that interesting “Someone who has turned away from the faith never legitimately believed” So, by Stewart’s lights atheists who became Christian’s where never truly atheists at all. Hey you former atheists. You never where “ truly legitimate atheists” YOU where always believers ❤ Awww beautiful 🎉

@larzman651

9 ай бұрын

Your not true atheist now , your a watered down version. A real atheist doesn't believe in GOD or the devil , heaven or hell. You chumps took the we don't have enough evidence route

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

Stewart is young; OSAS- 3 verses in the Bible say your name can be blotted out of the book of life; Psalm 69:28, revelation 3:5, 22:19! Never receiving Jesus is not the only way to go to hell Says Matthew 7:21-23 ; verse 23 ‘away from me I never knew you’ does not apply to everybody, Jesus says this twice in verses 21 and 22! “Not everyone will say to me (on that day)……., yes many will say…..” If OSAS was true he would’ve said “everyone and all” instead of “not everyone and Many”! So not everyone will go to hell based on never knowing Jesus, and other verses will back this up as well! you can no longer use Matthew 7:23 to say they were never saved to begin with! Same with 2 Peter 2 “after knowing the Lord, they went back into their vomit as a dog; or back into the mud as a pig wallowing in the mud”. The word ‘knowing’ is the same word in Matthew 7:23, it’s ‘ginosko’ in the Greek- it’s a salvific relationship with Jesus! So you can lose your salvation, says this verse as well! 2 Peter 2:20 “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning!” THEY ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CORRUPTION OF THE WORLD…AGAIN- says this verse! Jude 12 - “twice dead”; Dead in sin, born again, dead again! And there’s many more; Revelation chapters 2 & 3 are full of ultimatums and all Jesus is focused on is our works! Revelation 2: 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place! Revelation 2:14 there are some among you….. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. These are just 2 and Jesus says “he who overcomes” , Overcomes is present active- future tense, and Jesus says this to all 7 churches, even the 2 good ones! You have to stay faithful to the end of your life to go to heaven! John 3:16 is he who believes, or continues to believe will have eternal life! it doesn’t say ‘believed’ past tense, you have to maintain your faith to go to heaven! The Greek word ‘believes’ is ‘Pistis’ which basically means faithfulness so faith equals faithfulness, according to the Bible! So if you have problems with this, then you have problems with the word of God, the Bible! You need to study these passages so that you can make it to heaven! If your pastor cannot answer these questions according to what I just said, then you need to leave that church!

@hersheyhealth2039

9 ай бұрын

This sarcasm shows truth, I like it 😶‍🌫️😋

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

None of you stiffnecked atheists Are gonna know the truth to any of this unless you look for it.! You’re not gonna be able to plead willful ignorance because God gave you a free will to seek after him, and if you don’t use your time wisely, you’re gonna be thrown into hell !

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!

It's a yes and no answer. 1. Yes if you TRUELY believed that Jesus is your Lord and Saviour with ALL YOUR HEART. Romans 10:9. 2. No. Apostasy of faith. Hebrews 6:4 God bless you all.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

You're wrong very, very wrong, Stuart and I don't care if my voice recorder spells your name wrong or not, you're wrong. We are human beings who are frail, even in Christ, we are still growing and changing, and decrease every day, so we will stumble and fall some of us who may lose a child or be raped or whatever the scenario. We can be like one of a ninety nine falls away, but Christ will call us back. And as long as we haven't turned off the Holy Spirit. We'll come back and hopefully stay. You can choose to deny your free Salvation. Furthermore, some leave it for years and then come back and stay forever. Not everyone is the same. Lastly, you're also wrong because the majority people I speak to who believe in once saved. Really do believe that once you're saved? You could not be held accountable for your sins anymore. Because they're washed in the blood of the lamb which means they can sin not having to worry about it. They do unmistakably believe that they're wrong of course, but that is what they believe.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

You’re right on first John 1:7 , if you don’t walk in the light as he is in the light, the blood of Jesus will not cleanse you from all sin!

@OurSavior-xr3yc

9 ай бұрын

Amen.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Stuart is wrong. I am warning others about this false teaching with this message: *Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@OurSavior-xr3yc

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 Amen, I tell people of the same everyday and in my videos in my poetry etc.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

@@OurSavior-xr3yc Praise God!

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Revelation 20:12 KJV Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. James 2:24 KJV

@TyVodd

9 ай бұрын

Rev 20 12 proves Eternal Security?? The book of life has every believers name in it, which further on Rev 20 15, says those not found in it are thrown into hell.. As believers we are not judged by our works, but are received in heaven by our names being in the book of life (faith in Jesus). James 2 is clearly talking about how faith is unprofitable in this world among men, without works. So as a believer your witness of your faith is hindered towards unbelievers by how we live. Which is what this is talking about. It's clear believers are justified by faith alone (Gal 2 16), (Rom 3 20)

@Servant44

9 ай бұрын

@@TyVodd James 2:24 KJV Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. A man is also justified by his works, Not by faith only ‭‭Ecclesiastes‬ ‭12:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [14] For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

@TyVodd

9 ай бұрын

@Servant44 James 2 is clearly talking about being justified before men, not God. That one's faith is useless before men if you don't have works. Abraham was justified by faith alone Rom 4: 2-4. Eccliesiates is right God will judge every deed, which is why everyone needs the blood of Christ John 5:24. Every believer does not have this judgment for their salvation. If any of us were judged by our works we are all doomed.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

@@TyVodd James 2 is not just talking about being justified before men, you can lose your salvation! OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Yes, good verses. It's sad that they REFUSE TO BELIEVE the clear words of God there. *Don't be deceived folks! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Read John 10, whole chapter. Can not see how it disproved OSAS at all. People can’t believe the plain simple speech of the gospel.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Hello there, don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Read Ezekiel 18:24

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Exactly! Good verse! I am telling others the following message: *Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

The Bible teaches OSOS but it also says if you live in sin Jesus will punish u or end ur life early. BOOM!!

@EchoGuzman

9 ай бұрын

Facts

@datkiddmixx

9 ай бұрын

FACTS

@LouisC777

9 ай бұрын

But you go to heaven

@EchoGuzman

9 ай бұрын

@@LouisC777 Agree

@residuejunkie4321

9 ай бұрын

*What the bible says now cannot be trusted though. Read Amos **8:11**-12, then type in (proof of bible change residue junkie) AND HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT!!!!!* *Or if you're like most who call themselves ''Christians'' you can just wait and let Jesus explain it at the Gate before He sends you all on your way...But I sure don't recommend it.*

I’m a believer and this is cap, you can get saved and your name be written but if you don’t follow Jesus till the end like Judas… you won’t enter heaven.

@ChristIsLordofAll-xb6xv

7 ай бұрын

Judas wasn’t saved to begin with (John 6:70). Those who abandon the faith, like Judas, were likely not saved to begin with (1 John 2:19). However, to the one who genuinely trusts in Christ for the forgiveness of their sins, they cannot lose their salvation. Revelation 3:5 In the same way, the one who conquers will be dressed in white clothes, and I will never erase his name from the book of life but will acknowledge his name before my Father and before his angels.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Hello there, what you said is true. I am warning the others with this message: Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

This wrong king Saul in 1 Samuel 12 lost salvation. And revelation 3 says lest you repent I’ll remove thy candle stick speaking of the Holy Spirit one can betray God after truly coming to the faith it’s all over the Bible

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Exactly correct! I am warning others with this message: *Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

where are Adam and Eve right now? in heaven or hell?.. they caused the downfall of man didn't they? if true, thats a pretty big issue aint it?

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

Adam and eve are most likely in heaven, 99.9% because of the blood atonement of Jesus Genesis 3:15! & all human beings including you would’ve sinned as well that’s what the millennial reign is about; with the devil locked up in the abyss for 1000 years, it shows that mankind will still sin! So you can’t blame Adam and Eve for the sinful nature !

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Hello there, don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

turning away from faith means that person had told lies when accepting Christ, thus, in the beginning that person was not saved...

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

Not true; 2 Peter 2: 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

No, such thing as once saved always saved stop with your fake doctrines

@intelligentdesign4435

9 ай бұрын

@@jjphank You did not believe God through emotion.

@intelligentdesign4435

9 ай бұрын

@@nicodemus9105 God never endorse divorce in marriage, thus, one you accept a person to be your mate, until death do us part. Thus, a liar may stop the faith but not the real Christian.

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

@@intelligentdesign4435 This doctrine came from those that said we can never stop sinning, we are always going to sin. Now if your married and you cheat on your wife you will not be married till death do you part. So if you are sinning against Christ you are not save. I stand by what I said fake DOCTRINE OSAS it’s just your pastor coddling you in your sin

No.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@robmc120

9 ай бұрын

Yes?

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Hello there, don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Wow, didn't know you guys are Calvinists. Lost all respect. Everyone knows Calvinism is wrong.

@robmc120

9 ай бұрын

Lol, "EVERYONE"? Then calvinists know its wrong too? Did you interview everyone to KNOW this?

@localguide1611

9 ай бұрын

@@robmc120 lol. I guess you need some explanation... the early church father's writings show their beliefs conflict with Calvinism. So yes, it is plain that Calvinism is false for as long as it has existed. Lol

@robmc120

9 ай бұрын

@@localguide1611 "the early church father's writings show their beliefs conflict with Calvinism." That wasnt your claim though was it? You said EVERYONE knows, so again, you talked with everyone to KNOW this as fact, right? God's word says nothing about eternal assurance right? It NEVER says "called" or "elect" or any other definite words?

@localguide1611

9 ай бұрын

@@robmc120 the first church knew, we've known as Christians since the dawn of Christianity. Lol Do you know better than early church fathers? Really?

@localguide1611

9 ай бұрын

@@robmc120 and yes you might need to do some homework about the terms called and elect. The early church fathers are against you. 2000 years of error is on your side. Lol

This was correct and incorrect at the same time. *Salvation CANNOT be lost good job *Our names are NOT added to the book, theyre taken away at death if one dies without Christ. (Blotted out)

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

FALSE; three different ways you can be blotted out or spit out of the body of Christ; by being lukewarm revelation 3:5, by adding or taking away to the book of revelation, revelation 22:19 By being wicked, psalm 69:28

@jjphank

4 ай бұрын

@zusboi you’re right when you said you don’t know much about the Bible! The word backslider is in the Bible how can you backslide less your front slid , so backslide from what ? Jesus is talking to lukewarm Christians. See revelation three on that.! Drink your milk, junior I’ve been a Christian longer than you’ve been alive!

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Hello there, don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@barakoniner1644

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 enjoy hell

One of the most destructive doctrines.

@ChristIsLordofAll-xb6xv

7 ай бұрын

How so? The doctrine of eternal security, though people do abuse it (Romans 6:1-2), should motivate us to do good works since we’re confident and grateful of our eternal destination! 2 Corinthians 5:14-15 “For the love of Christ compels us, since we have reached this conclusion, that one died for all, and therefore all died. And he died for all so that those who live should no longer live for themselves, but for the one who died for them and was raised.” ‭‭

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Yes, and they REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE ENTIRE COUNSEL OF GOD. I am warning them with the following message: *Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

I gues solomon never legitimately believed than smh! Plenty saved people have abandoned the faith but their still saved. To say someone never really believed becsuse they dont have an overt change in their life is heresy and works salvation.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Read your Bible because you are speaking against the words of God. *Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

This is just one verse that you need to ignore if you believe this. Doesn’t matter what he says. 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:19 NKJV

@TyVodd

9 ай бұрын

So you think a real believer in Christ is going to change the book of Revelation, or the word of God at all? Lol that's nonsense.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

@@TyVodd yes, there’s two other ways to get your name blotted out of the book of life; being lukewarm revelation 3:5, and Psalm 69:28 OSAS- 3 verses in the Bible say your name can be blotted out of the book of life; Psalm 69:28, revelation 3:5, 22:19! Never receiving Jesus is not the only way to go to hell Says Matthew 7:21-23 ; verse 23 ‘away from me I never knew you’ does not apply to everybody, Jesus says this twice in verses 21 and 22! “Not everyone will say to me (on that day)……., yes many will say…..” If OSAS was true he would’ve said “everyone and all” instead of “not everyone and Many”! So not everyone will go to hell based on never knowing Jesus, and other verses will back this up as well! you can no longer use Matthew 7:23 to say they were never saved to begin with! Same with 2 Peter 2 “after knowing the Lord, they went back into their vomit as a dog; or back into the mud as a pig wallowing in the mud”. The word ‘knowing’ is the same word in Matthew 7:23, it’s ‘ginosko’ in the Greek- it’s a salvific relationship with Jesus! So you can lose your salvation, says this verse as well! 2 Peter 2:20 “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning!” THEY ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CORRUPTION OF THE WORLD…AGAIN- says this verse! Jude 12 - “twice dead”; Dead in sin, born again, dead again! And there’s many more; Revelation chapters 2 & 3 are full of ultimatums and all Jesus is focused on is our works! Revelation 2: 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place! Revelation 2:14 there are some among you….. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. These are just 2 and Jesus says “he who overcomes” , Overcomes is present active- future tense, and Jesus says this to all 7 churches, even the 2 good ones! You have to stay faithful to the end of your life to go to heaven! John 3:16 is he who believes, or continues to believe will have eternal life! it doesn’t say ‘believed’ past tense, you have to maintain your faith to go to heaven! The Greek word ‘believes’ is ‘Pistis’ which basically means faithfulness so faith equals faithfulness, according to the Bible! So if you have problems with this, then you have problems with the word of God, the Bible! You need to study these passages so that you can make it to heaven! If your pastor cannot answer these questions according to what I just said, then you need to leave that church!

They can repent when they are 40 if they want they are young that need to live a little and have their fun when they are old and boring that can be more with church growers that Cliff seem like an old man that you should retire take up fishing that you can bring Jesus along he can stand on water while he is fishing.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived folks! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

"Once saved always saved" is a repulsive, anti-christian doctrine. It was invented by Calvin and has absolutely zero historical foundation. Any christian of the first millennium would have been astonished to hear such nonsense. Many calvinists, like this man, add the caveat that you cannot just do whatever you feel like, because if someone turns from the faith, it means his name was never really written in the Book of Life to start with. According to this logic, there can be no certainty of your salvation, whereas Calvin insists that all true believers can have absolute certainty that they are going to Heaven. None of it makes sense.

@KentuckyBrad

9 ай бұрын

Read John chapter 10 my friend

@christopherfleming7505

9 ай бұрын

@@KentuckyBrad You can twist Bible passages to mean whatever you like. Protestants have a LONG history of doing this, which is why they disagree with each other on fundamental doctrines. What you fail to understand is that if your interpretation of a passage is unhistorical, it cannot be correct. If you find no evidence of any early christians believing what you believe about Once Saved, Always Saved, or even evidence of the contrary, it means somebody made it up later, ie Calvin. Therefore, it does not come from Our Lord and must be condemned as a heresy.

@brohuggie2978

5 ай бұрын

@@christopherfleming7505 Calvinists believe that if you are not living a life serving God then you are not saved, do you believe the same thing? then you are a Calvinist, my friend! OSAS has nothing to do with Calvinist belief, they might have adapted it, just like they adapted your belief as well, but it doesn't make them the authors of it. Paul was accused of teaching OSAS without actually saying those words.

@christopherfleming7505

5 ай бұрын

@@brohuggie2978 Your logic is flawed. You might as well say: "Calvinists believe that the earth is round. If you also believe this, you're a Calvinist." No, I am not a Calvinist. I believe that we can lose our salvation. One mortal sin suffices to cut us off from God. If we do not repent of this sin, confess it to a priest, and receive absolution, we will go to hell for eternity. This is what all Christians believed up till the 16th century. This is the truth. I understand that it is an uncomfortable truth. It is a harder thing to live with than the fantasy that Calvinists teach, in which our sins don't really matter, as long as we say a magic, unbiblical prayer at one point in our life. The Catholic view means we must truly work out our salvation in fear and trembling, as St. Paul says. God bless +++

@brohuggie2978

5 ай бұрын

@@christopherfleming7505 So you believe that a priest has more authority than the blood of Christ? Wow

Why is the so confusing to so many people have discussed it many times I've seen it discussed many times. You are saved by Faith through an Angie's Christ, but he also tells us. If you love me, keep my commandments. And it gives us many examples about doing good works you don't do good works to be saved. Even though the bible says a good number of works covers a multitude of sins that doesn't mean do good to be saved ir cover sins. You naturally out of love for your Lord. Do good works because you are saved not to be saved. And obviously, over time, those good works that you naturally do because of that love does cover multitude to sins, and he does cast your sins to the sea. If you have been repentive and have changed your ways out of that devotion and love, not because you're forced coerced. Or because you think it buys your way into heaven? You don't do good works to be saved. You don't do rituals to be saved. You just love the lord follow his teachings because you are saved. Before a catholic comes in saying but, no buts. I was a Catholic for 30 years from the cradle I know my catechism I know the Bible when I was a Catholic. I didn't know the Bible is that for a scripture here or there? I only knew then the catechism and only knew. Then what we were told to know and learn? That was it then? I actually studied the Bible. Since I was 8 years old I knew they were wrong I could see they were wrong but I didn't have the answers and no one would discuss the answers with me but then when I read that Catholic Bible for the first time through-and-through when I was about 28 years old, boom. Hey, you go, you know what I was about 30 I was baptized away from that. Thank god literally thank god trust me you don't do good works to be saved, I know all those traps very well.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

I used to be a Catholic and I recommend you to just read the Bible and obey it friend. There are many false teachers/false prophets out there and Jesus told us it would be a narrow gate that we must enter by and that FEW would find it (Matt 7:13-14). Read through the Bible yourself and pray to God for wisdom with NO DOUBTS (James 1:5-8). God bless!

@OurSavior-xr3yc

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 Unless I've been ghosted, I've responded to you because your comments weren't making sense. Could you please reply back to me from what I had said to you?

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

@@OurSavior-xr3yc I am aware that you’re not a Catholic. I was just telling you that I was a Catholic too ;) I was extorting you, like Paul did with other Christians, that we need to be our guard. There are things that seem biblical YET may unintentionally divert a Christian from giving their whole heart to Christ. I hope this clarifies my last post.

@OurSavior-xr3yc

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 It sure does thank you. You'd be surprised. How many attacks I get all the time with 2 word or 3 word answers? But they never explained themselves and it's hard to Differentiate, either way, thank you and with my eyesight. Sometimes it makes it hard to so God bless you.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

@@OurSavior-xr3yc I am NOT sure what you mean by “You’re nasty love the Lord.” Works matter for sure. I will NEVER discourage another Christian compelled to do good works because we will give an account before God for everything done in this flesh and they do contribute to our salvation. That being said, a person must repent FIRST and do works befitting repentance before doing good works. God bless!

There is only one unforgivable sin and that is blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT. That being said if you walk away from your salvation and deny the gift you were given that might be the only way it could happen. Or like he said you may have never been truly saved to begin with.

@jasonnoble7302

9 ай бұрын

Larz Man • 1 day ago @Jason Noble I believe in free speech, I also believe you wouldn't say that to my face. You can act all tough but when it comes down to it you would cower. I have entertained so called tough guys and they all walk away they are all mouth Hey “cower maker” 😂

@larzman651

9 ай бұрын

@@jasonnoble7302 hey goof ball I see your stalking cliffe videos now

@jasonnoble7302

9 ай бұрын

@@larzman651 Goof ball ? Is that how you make people cower to you ? By ad hominem attacks 🥲 I don’t think Jesus would approve of that kind of nasty name calling Larz the cower maker 🤷‍♂️ I started on Cliffes sight I was invited here by Stewart You know, cliffes son 👨‍👦 See you around ♥️

@larzman651

9 ай бұрын

@@jasonnoble7302 oh no goof ball hurt your feelings but you calling me cower maker is ok. What a hypocrite. Not if I see you first 😂. Invited that's a laugh

@larzman651

9 ай бұрын

@@jasonnoble7302 " I don't think JESUS would approve" fantastic so you believe in the son of GOD now, outstanding!

False doctrine.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Yes it is and I am warning them with the following message: *Hello there, don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@Triggerhawk

2 ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 This time through the Bible Im taking every verse I can find and making a compilation. I cant find a thorough enough case on the topic, and I think there needs to be one. You got the obvious scriptures like hebrews 6 and james 5 but yeah

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

@@Triggerhawk Bible verses that indicate/suggest/allude to losing salvation: Matthew 6:14-15 Matthew 7:19-27 Matthew 10:22-39 Matthew 19:21-29 Matthew 24:9-14 Matthew chapter 25 Luke 8:9-14 Luke 12:41-46 Luke 13:6-9 John 3:16-21 John 8:31-32 John 15:1-6 Romans 11:17-22 1 Corinthians 6:9-13 1 Corinthians 9:27 1 Corinthians 15:1-2 Galatians 5:4 Galatians 5:19-21 Galatians 6:7-8 Ephesians 5:1-7 Philippians 3:17-19 Colossians 1:21-23 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 1 Timothy 4:1 2 Timothy 2:8-12 Hebrews 2:1-3 Hebrews 3:4-6 Hebrews 3:7-15 Hebrews 6:4-8 Hebrews 10:26-39 2 Peter 2:1-17 2 Peter 3:17 Revelation 2:4-7 Revelation 2:10 Revelation 2:18-29 Revelation 3:1-6 Revelation 3:16 Revelation 22:18-19

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

@@Triggerhawk If you read my original post with the verses that OSAS/faith alone people post, there are generally CONDITIONS that are attached to each of those verses. For example, read the VERSES AFTER John 3:16. You will SEE what I mean. God bless!

Does that man Judas's name is in the book of life

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

@sunahako

Ай бұрын

@@wesleynunez3825 this doesn't answer my question

@wesleynunez3825

Ай бұрын

@@sunahako Do you sincerely want the truth?

He got it right

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

Prove it sinner

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

*Hello there, don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*

Please listen to Hal Chaffee on the topic Is once saved always saved..

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

Lies of the devil

@ashikkoshy6406

9 ай бұрын

Oh...really...

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

@@ashikkoshy6406 bet you can only give me your opinion and can’t prove it scripturally. I can through the scripture. It’s a excuse for you that still walk in sin, that’s all this doctrine is for.

@ashikkoshy6406

9 ай бұрын

Plss listen to his video and then make comments...

@nicodemus9105

9 ай бұрын

@@ashikkoshy6406 that’s your problem you listen to men and don’t read the word of God. Repent of your sin and walk holy.

I'm sorry, this is just WRONG.

@curiousgeorge555

9 ай бұрын

If I’m not mistaken, 90% of Bible commentators throughout history say it is RIGHT.

@LoveGodOverAll

9 ай бұрын

You need to repent and accept the truth, why keep living the life that put Christ on the Cross? You’re spitting on his sacrifice and will go to hell if you don’t see the truth

@pownagematt2443

9 ай бұрын

it’s not. Ephesians 4:30 “you are sealed unto the day or redemption” meaning the holy spirit can’t leave. Salvation is a free gift as spoken throughout Romans. A gift you receive from someone is something you don’t give back to the person once you take it. You can either receive that gift of eternal life or reject it. The bible clearly shows that once you believe in the gospel and have faith that the blood of Jesus washes us clean that we receive the holy spirit. Check out Once saved always saved by Robert Breaker. He has some great videos on those topics.

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

@@curiousgeorge555 you are mistaken! OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

@jjphank

9 ай бұрын

OSAS The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;” 
(“Kill”-“thuso,” “destroy”-“apoleso” where we get the word “Apollyon.”) “…I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand, and not a shepherd, who is not the owner of the sheep, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches… …”harpazos”… …them and scatters them.” (Jn. 10:10-12) The wolf “harpazos” them-raptures them. Going back to my friend in England, his job is to rob the thief, to steal the information before the thief can steal the information. He does the same thing the thief does. Satan comes to harpazo-to rapture, to snatch away by force. “and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… “…of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out… …”harpazo” them… …of the Father’s hand. (Jn. 10:28-29) This is saying that if we are in the hand of Christ, Satan cannot snatch us away from Him; he cannot touch the new creation. He cannot snatch us out of the hand of Christ.This Scripture does not address the issue of backsliding. People have taken it out of context and given it a meaning that is not warranted in the context. It does not say someone cannot get out of the hand, it simply says they cannot be snatched out of the hand, and has nothing whatsoever to do with a person choosing not to be in the hand of Christ. It simply says if someone chooses to be in the hand of Christ they cannot be snatched away.Unsaved people do not have a free will; their will is in bondage-they cannot choose Christ unless they are convicted by the Holy Spirit. They have to be empowered and convicted to choose Christ and it requires divine intervention for them to be saved. “Nobody comes but that the Father draws him” (Jn. 6:44).

No. That is not true. People switched back and forth from saved to unsaved all the time. People switch religions, careers, marriages, friends, and nationalities all the time.

@wesleynunez3825

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, well said James! :) I am warning other people about this too: *Hello there, don't be deceived! Once saved always saved is NOT true and a false doctrine. The same goes with faith alone too.* They say "all you need to do is believe in Jesus Christ dying for your sins and you will make it into His kingdom," but they ignore the other verses that tell them to OBEY JESUS. They quote verses Isa 64:6, Ecc 7:20, Jn 3:16, Jn 5:24, Jn 6:28-29 Jn 10:28-29, Acts 16:30-31, Rom 3:10, Rom 4:1-4, Rom 6:23, Rom 7:14-25, Rom 8:37-39, Rom 9:30-33, Rom 10:9-13, Rom 11:6, Eph 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7 OUT OF CONTEXT. *Read the ENTIRE CHAPTER associated with those verses. Don't base your salvation on these verses alone.*