I didn't mention that Cecil also needed Omni Man to keep an eye on Viltrumites, who were also on The Moon

@Aronkai

7 ай бұрын

Thragg was the only Viltrumite on the moon. Everybody else was on Earth, and Thragg was living on the ship alone with the other alien species they had working for them.

@Tsaava1338

7 ай бұрын

​@@Aronkaitheir base of operation was on the moon

@BIONIC1257

7 ай бұрын

@@Tsaava1338ye but the others stayed on earth to begin reproducing

@ericguzman8141

7 ай бұрын

Someone called you out for not knowing invincible

@nanaiahmanoj6774

7 ай бұрын

​@@AronkaiThragg was a hypocrite because he told all the viltramites to mate with lots HUMANS but he didn't Want to mate with a Single HUMAN WOMEN

Cecil does not hate him from what I can tell,he used to really respect and trust him and even now he is willing to give him a chance and then there is the very big plus of having one of the strongest vitrumite on his side for the coming battles

@HankTheHippy710

7 ай бұрын

I think that’s because no matter what his goals are (Omni man) they are clear and he will follow them. He won’t bullshit you and try and trick you (other than when he obviously lied to everyone about who he was). Meaning that if he’s really on your side, you can count on him.

@crimsoncardinal208

7 ай бұрын

Cecil never trusted Omni-man. He knew Nolan was lying from the first day

@dimieneyitemi1721

7 ай бұрын

It’s better to have an extremely strong viltrumite on your side

@007oskari

7 ай бұрын

​@@crimsoncardinal208i don't believe that. he for sure knew nolan hadn't told everything but I doubt he had any idea of omni man betraying earth, i think if he knew they would have more weapons ready for omni man other than the space laser and the drugged up monster

@crimsoncardinal208

7 ай бұрын

@007oskari he literally tested him with truth detector and knew his story about "viltrumites sent me here to protect earth" was bullshit.

Cecil looks at the bigger picture. A hard lesson he learned from his mentor

@Brogon_the_10st

7 ай бұрын

He might have made a lot of mistakes but in the end he was one of the best people to have on humanities side

@zaberfang

7 ай бұрын

Considering how Cecil uses other people as a means to an end to forward the interest of America, he kinda understands where Nolan is coming from.

@silverhawkscape2677

7 ай бұрын

​@@zaberfangHe understands he wouldn't have been any different if his Cause was Conquering Planets. You shouldn't trust Cecil but you shouldn't be an Unnecessary dick to him either.

@obarich

7 ай бұрын

@@silverhawkscape2677Don’t matter Cecil and Omni man are both scumbags

@itsAuffy

6 ай бұрын

How did his mentor teach him to look at the big picture?

Yeah I don't think people actually understand the problem here Cecil didn't give Nolan a slap on the wrist because he forgave him, he did it because he needed Nolan, and furthermore there was nothing he could realistically do to punish him. Ask yourself this, can an ant punish a human? Sure it can bite the human, then get killed itself and if it pisses off said human enough they might even just destroy the ant hill, for fun.

@ReiPlush4U

7 ай бұрын

Thats a really good way to put it ngl

@diooverheaven6561

7 ай бұрын

can ant punish a man? considering on occasions it was seen that bulldog ants venom could kill a man in 15 minutes i would say that thry can

@MousechrisTFM

7 ай бұрын

@@diooverheaven6561 ah yes, one specific ant can punish a man. Only for them to be eradicated in retaliation by other men. You fail to see the point dude.

@diooverheaven6561

7 ай бұрын

@@MousechrisTFM mate i know what you wanted to say however i just had to point out that ants can in fact punish (and more than one species kill a man). Realistically speaking you can destroy 1 colony but there will always be another and realistically speaking humans can't eradicate ant even if we wanted to. You know i would even bet that if ants and humans would wanna eradicate each other that humanity would loose considering there are 20 quadrilion of them and we can't realistically destroy them.

@ReiPlush4U

7 ай бұрын

@@diooverheaven6561 ant get squish

The punishment is because omni man wants to change but people wont accept him

@Lipe326

7 ай бұрын

It's hard to forgive someone who simply killed a large number of people, killed heroes to weaken the earth and left many problems for the people

@dani.lepore9410

7 ай бұрын

No one owes him forgiveness

@intruderrayan1056

7 ай бұрын

​@@Lipe326 i mean, he can do it again, soo why punishing him possibly making him angrier

@warmination7891

7 ай бұрын

It’s not even punishment, people would freak out if they knew omniman was on earth again. Use your brain

@Lipe326

7 ай бұрын

@@intruderrayan1056 Still lives were lost and many things were destroyed and with a huge change due to his actions they believed in an alien and paid the price If he gets angry it's proof that you really can't trust him as he made a serious mistake and must pay for it and if he can't accept this little punishment he don't even deserve to set foot on earth

"You weren't _evil_ if that's even the word for it." *all the corpses Nolan made just rotting away thousands of miles below them*

@the_infinexos

7 ай бұрын

Thousands of miles? How deep do you think they bury corpses

@passion6293

7 ай бұрын

​@@the_infinexosHow low do you think the moon is? 😂🤷🏽‍♂️

@kingol4801

7 ай бұрын

Except he was not evil. Just misguided. That is akin to calling IRL soldiers evil because they followed orders and killed people. Yes, you can make an argument that USSR soldiers were evil. Or Nazi soldiers etc. But in the end, it is all just blind devotion to their nation, whatever it is. Labeling “evil” to soldiers is a bit idealistic morality-wise. Yes. Accountability should exist. But morality is a very different thing when talking about brainwashed and radicalized people who’s job is literally “kill people”. So, in short - calling everybody on the other side of the conflict evil is not only wrong, but also extremely hypocritical and naive.

@_JesusChrist.

7 ай бұрын

@@kingol4801so evil.

@karoshn

7 ай бұрын

@@the_infinexosthey’re on the moon, are you implying the Earth *isn’t* thousands of miles away??

Because Cecil is a smart guy. And even if Omniman had genocided half the Earth, he knows that the only real way to fight Viltrumites is with Viltrumites

@MAKA13X

7 ай бұрын

Omni man didn’t genocide half the earth.

@AgentZombieMan

7 ай бұрын

@@MAKA13X And even if Omniman *had* , as in a hypothetical

@MAKA13X

7 ай бұрын

@@AgentZombieMan oh I miss read my bad

@PrimeHunter3195

7 ай бұрын

Angstrom Levy knew that too. Its just a fact.

@vincentcrow6075

7 ай бұрын

Pretty sure you can fight viltrumites with ragnars

Cecil is a simple man. He does what ever is best for the sake of the future of humanity. If that means not making enemies with Omni Man who killed so many humans, then so be it. He’s emotionless and cold hearted, but for a good reason. I like his character.

@boogus1670

6 ай бұрын

Idk bro this comic has that gay concept of multiverses and dimensions and also an probably infinite universe, I’m sure there are species out there stronger than viltrumites

Punishment he chose to leave earth

@4isVeryFuckingbad

7 ай бұрын

He slaughtered The guardians of the globe

Wow, looks like prison really can change a man. Just not in the way the Viltrumites hoped.

@AntolaRes

7 ай бұрын

They were about to execute him, but he escaped.

@AntolaRes

7 ай бұрын

they didnt want to change him

@tfossgh

7 ай бұрын

Dude already shown change after leaving earth. You should read the comics, they are pretty awesome

@AntolaRes

7 ай бұрын

@@tfossgh I have already finished the comics, but i agree they are amazing.

Because Cecil saw how brutal is OmniMan when serious. So, when OmniMan came back and wished to have civil conversation, it was obvious that OmniMan just wants to live on Earth without these plan of capturing. OmniMan couldn't finish capturing Earth only because he saw how awful it was after looking at his son being beaten up by him.

@kingol4801

7 ай бұрын

Which is the best part of Invincible. In the end, it is always about morality and moral victories.

Cecil is such a complex character, it’s revealed that he knew Omni man was lying from the beginning when he arrived at earth for the first time but he didn’t immediately realize the potential danger, so I think he blames himself for not taking down Omni man

@damonedrington3453

7 ай бұрын

He didn’t “know Nolan was lying” he just never fully trusted him, and wishes he had been more trusting of his gut.

@feedme2653

7 ай бұрын

@@damonedrington3453it was said (I don’t remember which chapter) early on that when omni man first arrived on earth, cecil had him questioned in a wired room and did a lie detector test on him. Omni man failed every single test so cecil knew he was lying, just not what he was lying about.

@imalpha4471

6 ай бұрын

Well, if he was to manage killing omni-man before the earth’s future would be doomed

Let’s be honest…having one more Viltrumite on your side even one that murdered all your former allies, is better than having one more enemy Viltrumite.

@silverhawkscape2677

7 ай бұрын

Besides. After he took out the Guardians ofnthe Globe, he literally can't be stingy.

Having a powerful viltrumite in your good books is strong and severely punishing him would isolate him and make him a threat

@cheekguardian1378

6 ай бұрын

How would they even punish him severely💀

Cecil was always a "The end justify the means" type of guy, so that's why Nolan got forgiven so quickly, at the end of the day, he was one of his greatest assets against the viltrumites.

Cecil got a huge glow up in the animated series lmao

@pIayingwithmahwii

7 ай бұрын

He’s sexier in the comics imo

It’s more like having a safe distance than punishment. Imagine if he let him back to earth like nothing happened. It would be crazy.

Because cecil know that he still need omni man. If it was normal people, it would be a death sentences

@honkhonk8009

7 ай бұрын

I mean also because wtf would Cecil of accomplished by handing out some punishment to Omni-man? They got bigger fish to fry. Namely the fact other viltrumites have their targets set on earth. Also those deaths werent entirely because of Omni-mans character. He was following orders. So it aint completely bad.

You get the like just for having MF DOOM in the background

Hes kinda like vegeta. Killed thousands beforehand without giving it a second thought, but after being exposed to humanity had a drastic change of mind, especially after they abandoned their original goals. The difference is Omni man killed thousands of earthlings and they know, of course they wont want him back

@anthonyalvarez2037

7 ай бұрын

Except dbz can undo those consequences that Vegeta did vs the damage here being permanent

@pIayingwithmahwii

7 ай бұрын

Tbh I don’t know how Vegeta isn’t more widely known. His arrival (and the damage nappa did at his command) was widely televised. In early DBZ aliens coming to earth wasn’t an everyday occurrence. It would be like if an alien came to our world and blew up an entire city. Such a thing would realistically NEVER be forgotten. And let’s not forget that considering he’s now married to the richest woman on earth. It would be like if that same alien married Elon Musk’s daughter or something lol. Vegeta would be beyond (in)famous, there’s no way he could just live a normal life on earth realistically lol.

@WebbedManiac

7 ай бұрын

​@@anthonyalvarez2037But Omni-Man's kill count is miniscule compared to Vegeta. Vegeta used to delete entire planets before he came to Earth and turned good. Omni-Man only killed 6 superheroes, a few soldiers, and a city. Still a lot, but nothing compared to Vegeta.

@anthonyalvarez2037

7 ай бұрын

@abhinav2500 true but he destroyed a entire civilization and possibly even more due to expanding the empire of viltrim

@LeaderCastleMario

7 ай бұрын

​@@WebbedManiacyou forget Omniman is more than a thousand years and spent a good time of those conquering planets. Vegeta is only 30 when he arrives on earth.

Nolan isnt bad, hes just.. a viltrumite.

@gojhubgugggvvb

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, Viltrumites became that evil when somebody changed their ways

He's killed hundreds of innocences but he came back to save billions. I think this punishment fits, Omni-Man is changed and showed it but he left scars and fear in the world that he can't make disappear.

@JB-wy8fc

7 ай бұрын

In fairness he only has to wait like 50 - 100 years and then everyone who knew what he did on earth would be dead anyways

@BOOMDIGGER

7 ай бұрын

You can save Billions without killing Hundreds. Are Doctors allowed to just kill people becaue they save lives?

@embodimentofimperfection5694

7 ай бұрын

​@@JB-wy8fc except immortal

@silverhawkscape2677

7 ай бұрын

​@@JB-wy8fcSadly Fate made sure he paid for his crime. 😅

Burning the bridge with Omni man would be a death sentence from Cecil's POV. If a surprised attack by the Viltrumites were to happen who would help Mark. Because the Immortal ain't doing anything to them.

@markstewardson4006

7 ай бұрын

Neither is Omni man to be honest, at best he would be a speed bump if the other Viltrumites attacked in force. It might be different if they sent them in one at a time though. As for the immortal sure he loses vs Omni man but Nolan is one of the strongest Viltrumites like top 5 and Mark is just freaky strong for his age. We never really see Immortal up against the average Viltrumite i'm sure he would lose but it would be close enough that he could win with some help.

Honestly if you can fly through space because of your powers, a home on the moon sounds pretty damn cool.

To be fair, Cecil basically understands that Nolan did it as a faithful soldier, which is what Cecil is.

Omniman probably lived long enough to have seen more beautiful places than earth, earth to him was probably his best summer vacation spot. Bummer...

Y’all should know that in the comics Omni-man’s crime weren’t bigger than in the series, he killed less people and they were pretty accidental cause he was focused in his fight with mark and didn’t beat him up that bad like in the series…was way less brutal in the comics

@damonedrington3453

7 ай бұрын

I like that the fight is more destructive, but it’s definitely gonna be interesting to see how “you weren’t evil” is gonna pair with “remember that time you played Mark vs Train, and the train lost?”

Because Cecils aint dumb, he knows he could use OmniMan, and with that have Marks loyalty if helps his family

Even Nolan said he deserves worst

Despite the fact he can literally do whatever he wants

I mean if you lie and abuse peoples trust, being a Superman makes it hard to really punish you in anyway meaningful so exile does seem pretty smart

If they're too useful, Cecil will always find a way to make use of them

so basically a slap on the wrist with a hug for multiple war crimes lmao

@davidgreen3001

7 ай бұрын

Yeah but the writer basically said you should forgive him so all the sheep reading are forgiving him like he didn't kill tens of thousands for fun and murder the planet's protectors.

Cecil as always is just pure pragmatism. He can't punish Nolan, he can't even exile him if Nolan doesn't feel like he deserved it. But he needs Nolan to keep protecting the planet

To be fair, both of then are the same, nolan did evil things for the viltumites the same as cecil did evil things for humanity, at the end of the day both are soldiers doing things for their respective faction.

bro got divorced by the planet

I love this background music for invincible coverage

I love the mf doom background music

I mean, it makes perfect sense, bht its also hypocritical coming from Cecil

Cecil not wrong

"You're a hero but you have to leave" ass punishment

Bruh basically covered a lot of season 2 in 40 secs

Cecil knew he really had nothing that was going to stop Omniman so it was more of a bargain than a price or punishment

Nawww Cecil was hurt when he found out the truth , he still has admirable respect for the work he did , plus I think he can sympathize with the “Following orders”

Cecil figured "whoa there's gotta be way tf stronger viltrumites out there than Nolan"

Telling a superhero like him that he’s exiled from the planet but can stay on the moon base is like telling a normal person “you’re exiled from your house but you can stay in the front yard. Oh and your front yard has a mansion in it”

@JB-wy8fc

7 ай бұрын

It's not that simple. They need him.

@matthewduran2629

7 ай бұрын

@@JB-wy8fc I know. Jus making a joke

Man, that punishment was so nasty that it's probably somewhat of a tragedy.

It’s pretty understandable if you think about it, asides needing to loom in on viltrumites that are also on the moon. There is going to be a number of superheroes and villains who will want to see if this is the real Omni-Man and follow him. The moon would provide a base of operation that almost no one, asides other Viltrumites and Cecil can reach. Plus, those who put trackers on him will believe their trackers are going haywire if the signal comes from the moon. This also provides Cecil with surveillance on him and view his activities, while being able to better control Nolan in the sense that he can order Nolan to intervene in absolute dire emergencies. Such as if there is a Viltrumite attack.

Killed a few thousands saved a few billions... but still gets punished

Seeing Debbie try and argue for Omni-man was wild. Like she isnt understanding that the planet won't just forget all the people he killed. Just bc you forgave him doesn't mean everyone else has to.

Omni-Man can just be like “Fuck you” i do what i want still.

Lest all come back here after tonight’s episode! 😊

Cecil will use whatever he can to have advantage or protect America. That’s why his punishment was so light lol

That fact that they gave him a second chance is just insane, considering he killed thousands when he was fighting Invincible.

@mister_meme3608

7 ай бұрын

And he returned to save billions

@ZER0O9

7 ай бұрын

​@@mister_meme3608so? The people he killed aren't around to appreciate his change.

@thatonequietkid4459

6 ай бұрын

@@ZER0O9 Wdym so? If it weren't for him, Mark and the rest wouldn't have gotten so far and won at the end of the day.

@ZER0O9

6 ай бұрын

@thatonequietkid4459 Yeah, but he still killed a bunch of innocent people, that doesn't just go away.

@thatonequietkid4459

6 ай бұрын

@@ZER0O9 I guess saving a bunch of lives doesn’t go away as well.

But as usual cecil is just using Omni-man just like he used everyone else

Just started reading the comics a few days ago, can't help but watch these shorts along the way lol. Love the vids man, respect for constantly using ALL CAPS

Cecil is only looking out for himself and earth

So in short. Cecil basically said. "You can't BE on Earth. And I need you to deal with the other Viltrumites."😊

He got off REALLY fucking lucky

Omni man is actually one of the most wholesome guy in the series

To be honest, I'm sure Omniman as a hero saved more people than he killed when he returned to his service as a Viltrumite. And clearly when he repented, he literally came back to save billions of people

A crib on the moon? Man lucked out and cecil still a homie

like a good friend once told me “who gon stop him”

Cecil is smart, and a pragmatist. He doesn't see the world as black or white, he just sees different shades of grey.

Omni-Man wants to be a reformed villain. Much like Hyperion from J. Michael's Supreme Power.

Why does it seem like cecil gives nothing but slaps on the wrist to anyone that did something bad, even if they tried and or almost successfully destroyed the world and killed a lot of people?

@leonel392

7 ай бұрын

He is fighting fire with fire, pick your poison, you either have a snake in your house or a mouse infestation. He choose to domesticate the snake

You say that like Cecil could’ve done more💀

Cecil is extremely goal-oriented. He persistently shows that he will work with even the most foul and irredeemable people (i.e. Sinclair) to get what he wants. His line of work essentially forbids personal grudges. That is who he is.

A note to include is that BJ Penn only tried for double champ status because A) he was a previous welterweight champion who had vacated the belt B) had a competitive back and forth fight with GSP And also Anderson never tried for double champ but he did move up to light heavyweight multiple times during his title reign Dana was even against double champs at one point in time as well

Nah bro that wasn't a fight that was a massacre

I just started back playing Showdown and the first thing I decided to do was dabble with Blunder Policy teams all because of you 😭

Just a slap on the wrist for betraying humanity? Fair enough...

@AnarchySystem

7 ай бұрын

To be fair, history shows how much human betrays humans. So we punishing others for what we do on a daily basis is kind of a hyprocate move. Presidents murder more humans than any other threat on the planet.

@SuperDuperJamer

7 ай бұрын

I think it'd feel horrendous if it happened in real life, but I've always felt one of the main question the comic poses is what is the point of imprisoning this person? Of imprisoning wrongdoers? Is there a better way?This is shown both positively (Planetina), I would say neutrally with Omni-Man, and negatively (Dinosaurus)... This is all personal opinion of course, but to me, that's one of the major themes this fictional comic explores

@jackmakila3776

7 ай бұрын

Realistically how are they gonna punish him? Plus he did later help save the earth

@kingol4801

7 ай бұрын

And then risking his life and saving humanity and the universe afterwards. Let me give you an example: A Nazi soldier burned a village. He then regretted his choices, went right against Hitler and won the war for the benefit of all of man-kind. Redemption is a thing. Are you really that naive, or just vile (if you think that pardon and redemption should not exist).

@htg98

7 ай бұрын

Did you want them to kill him?

Cecil will do anything to make the most in protecting earth.....anything

“You tried to take over the earth for a minute” and killed a room full of people

Invincible with doom music 🙏🙏🙏

I think it’s a mix of how valuable Omni Man is to both Cecil considering there are other Viltrumites who need watching and to the Coalition, and that there’s really nothing Cecil can do, Omni Man agreed to being exiled, I doubt he’d agree to imprisonment

Did she take him back after he called her a pet?! Lmao

Cecil is military minded. Those soldiers he comes with? Those are reanimated corpses. He'd commit atrocities against non humans for the sake of humans. He COMPLETLEY understands Nolan as a cog in a machine, because he's spent his life building a "machine" for Earth.

@docpox3900

7 ай бұрын

The viltrumites are on the verge of extinction, conquering earth was Nolan's solution. Countless humans would do worse in his position.

Given Omni man's position he didn't really do anything wrong he wasn't given a choice but he was willing to go against his Empire and risk his life which was a MASSIVE deal

@davidgreen3001

7 ай бұрын

Didn't he kill like 2 million people for fun?

Thats not a fucking punishment, its a compromise

Cecil and Debbie are the real heroes of the show!

Then Omniman try to pull same punishment to Thragg Unfortunately it not ended good for everyone 😅

I don't know why that's unexpected. It allows him to keep Omni man close to further protect the earth from other threats while keeping him away from others on earth that would want to kill him, creating further havoc. Very logical.

It’s not really a punishment, it’s purely a matter of convenience. Omni man can’t come back to earth

Omniman technically not committed any crimes as he is not human.

I mean, what can Cecil can EXACTLY do at that point? 💀

Im still sad that Omniman didn't die a grusome way

W song choice

Love the show

Tbf the original Guardians probably would've gotten decimated by the Viltumites irregardless

The punishment was superfluous since he paid restitution in protecting the world.

@davidgreen3001

7 ай бұрын

Your morals are just downright evil if you think you can kill tens of thousands for fun and then go "well he kinda felt bad about it so I guess he's a good guy now"

@josephcoon5809

7 ай бұрын

@@davidgreen3001 It’s not about where you were. It’s about where you are. If redemption is such an evil concept to you, you better hope you don’t need to be redeemed.

@davidgreen3001

7 ай бұрын

@@josephcoon5809 So you're one of those people who cry when a criminal is executed after he murdered two dozen people. That's disgusting. You're evil.

You can cal me your majesty

I think Cecil could see very clearly that Nolan was forcing himself to do his duty. Mark getting his powers reminded him that he had a job to do. Those 20 years on earth forced him to slow down for the first time in thousands of years of living and fighting. And it would be Earth that would change his heart.

If he wanted to live on earth Omni man would slaughter thousands including the superheroes to gain respect in fear

You left out alot of inter species cricket fornicating in the in between there

Rest in Power MF DOOM and spell that shit in ALL CAPS

So nasty that it's probably somewhat of a travesty having me

Be glad Nolan accepted punishment at all. Someone that strong only gets punished if he allows you to.

Well what other choice could he have? That’s like a company having an employee who causes over 50% of profits alone, best worker and never late. Has all of the sudden done something horrible but came back from that. You’d still have to punish him but you couldn’t get rid of him. In this case Cecil can’t get rid of Omni man because he can single handily defend the earth from most threats.

Its not so much punishment for a crime more like Cecil recognizing that he was effectively an enemy soldier who has defected, he is only exiled to the moon for PR reasons