2nd script in surah baqarah verses 265-271 1st script: last page of Al kahf (The cave) and last page of Maryam (Mary) and 1st page of Taha 😇

@nu-nisamiracle2401

Жыл бұрын

And have you ever hear the story of musa..

@ibnumubarokeib

Жыл бұрын

Prophet musa story much better from our religi than other story.. im muslim yo..

@ibnumubarokeib

9 ай бұрын

@@pauljoseph562 flyng carpet, it's child story/legend for sleep.. please separated legend and story from Qur'an and hadits. dont take seriously.. peace..

That blue and gold copy looks wonderful! I can only imagine how eye-catching that would've been to see in someone's book collection. Also that blue bible, which was a neat side note to learn about.

@treubuchet

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same.

@denizbeytekin9853

2 жыл бұрын

It is Babillion style

@Aminharp1

2 жыл бұрын

That Quran is in TUnisia in Kairouan

@AC-mp7cx

Жыл бұрын

May Allah guide you

@rebasingh258

5 ай бұрын

All of these qurans are have texts which differ from each other

The aqquyunlu Quran looks absolutely incredible what a tremendous work of art wow.

@clintonjoy5920

2 жыл бұрын

Quran studies Jihadism & terror towards to Christianity & Judaism. It is the religion dis covers war crimes in Arabian peninsula

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah a lot of Quran editions look very beautiful.

@pinkbunny6272

2 жыл бұрын

Went to a exposition about Islamic art, it was a dream come true! Oh how it shines, how it twirls around!

@whysoreligious2657

2 жыл бұрын

“Beautiful” but not true

@mdaslam6337

2 жыл бұрын

@@whysoreligious2657 Beautiful and true from cover to cover.

I really love this series, keep going, it's so interesting, more in depth video would be awesome

as a muslim from egypt, this is very interesting! also thank you for speaking with an arabic accent when pronouncing arabic words

i saw some qur'an manuscripts in the louvre abu dhabi and they're works of art!

@Normal_user_coniven

2 жыл бұрын

I saw in the news that they Bought the Bermingham copy temporarily.

@truthonly2453

Жыл бұрын

Exactly...art. It gets even better when you read the content....then it becomes psychopathic art.

Thank you for this enlightening presentation. Amazing as always

Love this channel. Such even handed and well thought out laying out of the facts.

@margaritakryuchkov9894

2 жыл бұрын

Most of what the Muslim stated about the Holy New Testament was *not* factual!!!

@israfilangel8062

2 жыл бұрын

@@margaritakryuchkov9894 it was factual and what does that got to do with this video?!

Never expected the name of Alphonse Mingana to come up! For the Syriac/Chaldean traditions of Catholicism, he was responsible for translating some of the works of one of the Syriac Fathers--Mar Theodore of Mopsuestia--into English (his writings were often overlooked because of Justinian and Constantinople II...) Will have to read more about him!

@TheMuslimApologist

2 жыл бұрын

Mingana had an interest in the study of Islam.

@AC-mp7cx

Жыл бұрын

May Allah guide you

2:37 I'm proud to say that I just saw the Samarkand Manuscript today, with my own eyes. And if I hadn't seen this video before, I wouldn't have understood the real importance of that relic. Thanks for this video, and hello from Uzbekistan!

@user-zr2kd3zj7g

11 ай бұрын

assalomu alaykum hi bro

@sprad539

8 ай бұрын

Wait you just commented on the poll of height. You are 6ft arent you 😂

@macsoylu1076

Ай бұрын

Merhaba Kardeşim, bende gördüm, aslında 4 nüsha ve osman nüshalarından biri

It's an amazing feeling that I can read the oldest copy of the Quran!

@basharatali9946

Жыл бұрын

It is same no difference except the copy being old

@AA-pi5ui

Жыл бұрын

@@basharatali9946 that’s what the OP is saying

@superhydra8873

Жыл бұрын

​@@basharatali9946 different dialect though

@berradaleonardo5417

Жыл бұрын

The oldest one that still exists

@haithamali3228

Жыл бұрын

@@superhydra8873 nope. identical to what I read every Friday

I don't know about others, but in Indonesia, all those memorized Qur'an spend 2 hours reciting 2 out of 30 juz(partition of the quran) everyday as to preserve their memorization. That's excluding recitation in main and supplicant prayer.

@muhammedkoroglu6544

Жыл бұрын

That’s impressive

@azrazkitchen1597

Жыл бұрын

in india we recite 3 to 5 juz depending on the age specially may allah accept all our recitation and prayers

@fleunteur

Жыл бұрын

Am Indonesian too Can read quran once im at 6 or 7 And am quite proud about it lol cuz my friend can do same thing 2 years after me

@cocadoodledoo6346

5 ай бұрын

Make sure you folks don't lack on the general education though, otherwise you'll be a jobless hobo.

@abdulrahmanalenezi8879

4 ай бұрын

In Mecca and Madinah you could see hundreds of 6-10 years old memorize the Quran everyday and get tested on it inside the mosques. I’m from Kuwait but when I was at that age I used to go there every summer and memorize the Quran with them. I ended up memorizing almost all of it, 27 out of 30

Thank you Syawish Rehman for this most interesting history of the Quran. Besides the historical importance many of these volumes are works of art. btw your French pronunciation was just fine...the German would have made the Kaiser's armies tremble 😄 All the best from Mexico JP

As usual, you have presented a Fascinating Subject in a well done format. Thank You for this. I am always interested In learning more about how humanity 's various documents, books, religious texts, et cetera came to us.

@marioluigi9599

Жыл бұрын

The very first picture he's got up with the Arabic in different colours, that's TURKISH translations for the Arabic underneath it looool. I wonder if he thought it was just how to pronounce that Arabic writing in English. Lol that's definitely NOT how to pronounce it.

Lovely compilation.I believe you missed one important old Quran, the one of Cairo in El Mashhad El Husseini library which dates to probably end of second century -770 to 790. Very good work. I follow u ardently.

This was really good! Thank you!

5:57 See, when you 'find it in a mosque', I'm pretty sure that's called stealing

@jmiquelmb

2 жыл бұрын

Or bribing, or a combination of those two

@Mohtellawi

2 жыл бұрын

Hhhhhh good point there!

@blackshirtsocialist1457

2 жыл бұрын

Lol probably yes they stole it

@juba2516

Жыл бұрын

well said

@berdigylychrejepbayev7503

Жыл бұрын

that's not stealing if Westerner founds something which is owned by someone else ;)

Matt, thank you for having Syawish on. His channel is far underrated! Great work, all!

About translations, there is also an italian "translation" made in northern Italy in 1547, called "L'Alcorano di Macometto".

Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.

as a muslim child i used to memorize the Short Verses of the Quran far before i start to learn about arabic Scripts. And that's how Quran transmitted from generation to generation

@taglem714

Жыл бұрын

Are u from central asia or russia?

@royssche

Жыл бұрын

@@taglem714 Nope... I'm Indonesian, my Account Name and Picture is Alexander Romanov... The main Vilain in Red Alert 2 (Video Game)

@e-college-sait

Жыл бұрын

If it is true that the koran was transmitted by oral means and then written down, printed, then how is it that we have 32 different arabic korans today?

@nu-nisamiracle2401

Жыл бұрын

@@e-college-sait ask any random muslim you could find in any part of the earth to recite a surah or a verse from The Qur'an.. all of them would recite the same recitation.. The Revelation, The Qur'an, is the recitation, not the book itself.. You watch too much phobes video in youtube.. there is only 1 Qur'an..

@e-college-sait

Жыл бұрын

@@nu-nisamiracle2401 that is not the issue. There are multiple versions of the Koran in Arabic. All claiming to be the original. They are available in a whole range of Muslim bookstores. So there is no denial possible.

it would be cool to continue this series with other holy books

Really interesting, and informative!

Danke für die tolle Arbeit

I love this presentation, it is so well presented and at a pace that is easy to digest. I cannot read Arabic but I do feel there is something quite holy about the script, especially when appearing the Qur'an. Thank you.

@mohammedwhylie9224

2 жыл бұрын

watch CIRA international they expose islam

@treubuchet

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohammedwhylie9224 Thank you and whilst I am open to learning, this is not the type of learning that appeals to me.

@mohammedwhylie9224

2 жыл бұрын

@@treubuchet sure not important at all

@treubuchet

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohammedwhylie9224 to me it is not. However, if you could support by balancing it with similar to counter the other two Abrahamic/Ibrahimic religions, then I might. If not, I sense an agenda that makes me uncomfortable.

@mohammedwhylie9224

2 жыл бұрын

@@treubuchet the qurans (37+ different ones) being books filled with stupidity like a flat earth, sky that can fall on earth, a sunsetting in a waterpool, and so on, should matter>?

Great video! love the quality of your work and research. As for 11:15 , why assume it would be different if it was written before Uthman's standardized quran? if it was written while prophet Muhammad was alive then the logical thing is that it would match Uthman's version, because he was a contemporary of the prophet, he lived besides him for years and he likely memorized the Quran directly from him, as did a lot of his companions. It's Uthman's Quran that should match the Birmingham manuscript and not the other way around

@williamrobert9898

Жыл бұрын

I guess he only meant different in terms of the type of script in which it was written

Thank you for such a valuable information. You should have also included when and where the print Quran appeared.

Omg, I study history in Tübingen! Never knew this, great to have such an important piece of history there! btw, your pronunciation was pretty funny;)

Wonder which religious scripture you'll look at next for one of these videos, would love to learn about some of the Far East folk religions

I read an article regarding the Sana'a manuscript a couple of weeks ago. I was quite sure that the article said that it was the oldest Quran manuscript.

@tortoisewarrior4855

2 жыл бұрын

The article maybe old, the Birmingham Quran wasn't carbon dated until 2015.

@gwenamoredumal-is8719

2 жыл бұрын

@@tortoisewarrior4855 probably, I didn't check the date.

@whysoreligious2657

2 жыл бұрын

The Sana’a isn’t the oldest… but shows that it was erased and written over.

@PaleBlueDot711

8 ай бұрын

The article must be pre 2015.

@CarlBreadston

20 сағат бұрын

its education papers for student so its earse and written on it​@@whysoreligious2657

considering how difficult dye was to acquire and use in the pre-industrial world the blue quran was probably the most ornate and luxurious text that existed in that part of the world when it was made.

@allangibson8494

Жыл бұрын

Blue was almost exclusively produced from ultramarine (ground lapis lazuli (a gemstone)). By definition expensive.

@abdo-dr1tu

Жыл бұрын

@@allangibson8494 It was still available, but if someone wore something that requires chemical processing like purple they were RICH.

@allangibson8494

Жыл бұрын

@@abdo-dr1tu Lapis Lazuli was and still is mined in Afghanistan as pretty much the only source. Afghanistan was no safer in 1CE than 2021CE… So restricted, hand carried supplies were a given.

Thanks Useful Charts for the video. I think you should’ve at least mention the complete Quran at Husain mosque in Cairo and most important of all is King Fuad’s Quran which is the base and reference of Qurans that we handle today. Lastly all Quran scholars agree beyond any doubt that the Birmingham manuscript is ranked as three since as you stated its part of Parisino-Petropolitanus codex and the real number one is Sana’a Palimpsest.

@e-college-sait

Жыл бұрын

Ever asked the question why did king Faud needed to controle the koranic publication? Why the Cairo koran came into being? ever read the story behind it? If you have a palimpsest then you have two version of the unchangeable - ever the same - by allah protected koran. So which one is the right one. By the way there are now more thatn 30 different arabic korans worldwide. so again which is the right one?

@shkhamd

Жыл бұрын

@@e-college-sait Do you have any source where it lists all 30 Qurans verse by verse and put them side by side to show their differences?

@thaerjodah2665

Жыл бұрын

If you truly concern you can tired your self and listen to the reader of Quran at any spot of the earth and compare in between to know the difference and this is unlimited chance for you to find more and more not even 30 as you claimed . We have a millions of Quran hafiz around the world and those are our moving scriptures from generation to other from the prophet Mohammed till the end of the earth.

Daily 5 times prayer and recitation of quranic chapters in each prayer... Is the best evidence of preservation of quran...

@TetrahedronIX

2 жыл бұрын

Only 3 daily prayers are found in th quran

@sajid279

2 жыл бұрын

@@TetrahedronIX You didnt understand what it meant

@TetrahedronIX

2 жыл бұрын

@@sajid279 I bet you never read it yourself and telling me I don't understand it. In the Quran, there’s is no direct naming of the five prayers. It does not say pray Fajr, Zuhr, Asr, Maghrib and Isha salah. Nowhere in the Quran does it say this explicitly. People's diffing interpretations are clarifid by Hadith

@sajid279

2 жыл бұрын

@@TetrahedronIX I have read it never says three salah anywhere...either... Quran and Hadith are our two sources....

@adnanadill

2 жыл бұрын

*Where is the oldest Hindu books claimed to be oldest* ? Oldest Vedas composed and written by Ved Vyasa about 50,000 years back 4 Vedas today consist of 12,000 pages written by tiny computer fonts Ved Vyasa never saw never met God but fabricated it with meditation and dream work *Think of 12.000 pages of dream work???* *Mahabharata written by a Sanskrit writing An elephant Ganesh with its Tooth as Pen and trunk as Hand* Who never saw and never met Krishan the hero of the book. Mahabharata /Gita is about 6000 pages in tiny Computer fonts some 40,000 years back. Ramayana written by Dakoo/Dacoit Walt Mickey / Valmiki like saint Paul, who never met and never saw Ram the main character of book. *All those Hindu book were written in Cave mans age or Primitive age, when still gods was cloth less or leaves wrapped like Shiva Vishnu Brahma Ram and Krishna.*

Quran comes to us unchanged by memorization not necessarily a book copy. Allah preserves in the hearts of believers, that’s why there is only one copy of the Quran.

@Jotaros_Deen

2 жыл бұрын

@Benjamin Iota 1) The Ahruf you refer to are the seven dialects of the tribes of Mecca and Medina, Rasoolallah SAW said that the Quran has been revealed in 7 tongues, so recite which is easiest ( see Bukhari 4992) 2) Hafs and Warsh are two types of Qiraat or recitation which stem from the 7 Ahruf, if you watch a quran recitation competition they tell you which qiraat they will be reading from- Hafs is the more commonly used one. 3) Uthman ibn Affan AS burned those copies circulating around Persia because they were written by non Arabs, thus they had mistakes and errors, so he gathered all the copies, burned the pages that had errors or would burn the entire thing and rewrite it from scratch.

@muntekald7419

2 жыл бұрын

@Benjamin Iota all these qurans you’re talking about, have MINIMAL differences that wouldn’t even change the context. Further, what 99% of Muslims around the world are using Quran, this is the one, leave the other as even Muslims to look at them.

@muntekald7419

2 жыл бұрын

@Benjamin Iota I do believe there have been tries to reword some of the Quran to change it, but again, they never succeeded and never will, cuz again million do memorize it, it is UNCHANGEABLE.

@bambus3095

2 жыл бұрын

@@muntekald7419 These Minimal differences you are talking about are the for example German or Swedish translations thats why we have to recite the holy Quran in Arabic

@phiuzu5487

2 жыл бұрын

@Benjamin Iota those are merely dialectical differences lol. They don't even alter or distort the contextuality of even a single verse in the Quran. As for Uthman, he burned some copies cause some of the scribes wrote their commentary so it could be easier for them to memorize since they had to learn the Quran in its entirety. Also he did it with their agreement. Not a single community in charge of organizing the Quran were against him on such matters

Excellent work Syawish.

@margaritakryuchkov9894

2 жыл бұрын

How is it excellent when most of what he stated about the Holy New Testament is *not* factual??!!

@rashidsalis619

2 жыл бұрын

@@margaritakryuchkov9894 Syawish is from the Islamic history channel Al Muqaddamah, he only talks about Islam, he was invited by this channel to talk about this

@margaritakryuchkov9894

2 жыл бұрын

@@rashidsalis619 He opened his stupid mouth about the Holy New Testament!!!

@adnanadill

2 жыл бұрын

*Where is the oldest Hindu books claimed to be oldest* ? Oldest Vedas composed and written by Ved Vyasa about 50,000 years back 4 Vedas today consist of 12,000 pages written by tiny computer fonts Ved Vyasa never saw never met God but fabricated it with meditation and dream work *Think of 12.000 pages of dream work???* *Mahabharata written by a Sanskrit writing An elephant Ganesh with its Tooth as Pen and trunk as Hand* Who never saw and never met Krishan the hero of the book. Mahabharata /Gita is about 6000 pages in tiny Computer fonts some 40,000 years back. Ramayana written by Dakoo/Dacoit Walt Mickey / Valmiki like saint Paul, who never met and never saw Ram the main character of book. *All those Hindu book were written in Cave mans age or Primitive age, when still gods was cloth less or leaves wrapped like Shiva Vishnu Brahma Ram and Krishna.*

@oyungogdfrust4136

Жыл бұрын

@@adnanadillwhy are you talking about hinduism in an islamic comment section, nobody’s converting to hinduism by you answering random questions about it

Wonderful video :)

I would like to see an overview of the Arabic scripts. Might also be a opportunity for a graph imho.

@kunderemp

2 жыл бұрын

I second this. I want to know the chart of Arabic script, the hijazi, the kufic, the naskh, etc..

@msherif428

2 жыл бұрын

I know a bit about this, since I studied Arabic at school and Arabic calligraphy afterwards, and I'd love to see that video made. They're better thought of as different fonts rather than different scripts. There are only minor differences that depend on origin, time period, use, whatever it was written on, and preference for either aesthetic or legibility.

Always remember that the Quran is an oral book that is primarily transmitted between generations from mouth to ear and memorized in the heart, manuscripts are just an additional layer of protection for saving the holy book.

@TheJumpingAnt

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly true, this Verbal Revelation is different with Tanakh (Judaism) and Biblos (Christian).

@dustinellerbe4125

2 жыл бұрын

It's all man made bull that relies on previous religions/traditions and philosophical ideologies.

@TheJumpingAnt

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustinellerbe4125 you mean Gospels?

@dustinellerbe4125

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheJumpingAnt I mean the Qur'an, the New Testament, and the Tanahk.

@TheJumpingAnt

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustinellerbe4125 Not the Qur'an.

You should do one abt other holy books, or just religious texts, too, as the Vedas, the Dao de jing, the Lun yu. Also smth cool would be to explore when certain religion's doctrines were written down at the first time, thinking mostly abt afro American religions like voudou, candomblé, santería, but also shinto and dao luong

I am so proud of my self, as an Asian Muslim from Turkistan i easily read the 2nd and the 1st manuscripts which were the oldest. The remaining 6 i had diffifculty and tried so hard but couldnt! Its so amazing that i was able to read the scripts that were closer to the Prophets time than being able to read newer scripts found 😇😂 Miracle or what!

@isatubarrie9145

Жыл бұрын

Wow! How are you able to read it? 😮

@passerby9255

Жыл бұрын

@@isatubarrie9145 So, i memorized the whole Quran in Arabic, that made it easier for me to read. But im still upset i couldnt read the remaining 6 scripts though 🤷🥲

@AliensKillDevils.

Жыл бұрын

Please believe in Holy Maria, she is real. She is a real Virgin. Never married or had kids. Her 3 missions since alive till now: 1. help abandoned baby; 2. help the girl who was cheated, virginity is taken, going for Suicide, she saves them; and 3. help homeless Kids. Bible and Quran are Martian Jewish colonisation books for Earth to grab land, create war, manipulate and slave Earth beings. Jesus Christ is NOT Holy Maria‘s kid. Jesus is a fictional character. In the Bible, they even want to colonise Himalaya. No one should transfer their karma to others. No one should take another‘s karma. Each soul is unique. Take responsibility for own. Jewish are real Martians either reborn on Earth or fly directly to Earth via Flying Saucer. They are NOT originally from Earth, that is why they have land conflict problem. On Bible, they even want to occupy Himalaya. No Quaran. No Bible. No Jesus. Holy Maria is real. Holy Maria helps abandoned babies, cheated suicidal girls, homeless kids. Enjoy Sunshine and Please be Vegan, no animal’s eggs, animal’s milk, animal’s cheese, animal’s butter, and insect’s honey.

@passerby9255

Жыл бұрын

@@AliensKillDevils. With all due respect, are you referring to the Virgin Mary mother of Jesus? Because i do believe she existed as a holy and noble woman. I love her and respect her so much for her devotion to GOD ALMIGHTY. So, i'm kind of confused about what you're talking about Mary.

@haithamali3228

Жыл бұрын

@@isatubarrie9145 This brother is non Arab and he can read it. I can read them all no problem, we still write like this today in book titles, certificates, wedding invitations and other special productions

We have the concept Hafiz in Islam. Abu Bakr RA, Omer RA, Uthman RA and Ali RA, the four rightly guided calipha knew and memorised Quran by heart. Abu Bakr RA and Omer RA were Prophet Muhammad father in laws and Ali RA and Uthman RA were cousins of Prophet Muhammads. Prophet Muhammad saw wife Ayesha RA who whole memorised the Quran by heart lived up to Ali RA reign as Calipha, so witnessed the compilation of Quran into a book. Abdullah bin Masood RA was the actual person doing and managing compilation into a book of Quran while Uthman RA watched over it. Abdullah ibn Masood was a famous student of Prophet Muhammad saw, who learnt Quran directly from Prophet (saw).

@MuhammadUmarButt786

Жыл бұрын

Ali RA was cousin and son in law of the Prophet SAW and Usman RA was also son in law. Ali RA died in 40 hijri and Aisha RA died in 57 hijri. Ibn Masood RA was not in the comity who compiled Quran, it was Zaid bin Sabit RA accompanied by Umar RA in Abu Bakr RA time and Zaid bin Sabit RA accompanied by Saeed bin Al Aas RA and Abdullah bin Zubair RA etc in Usman RA time.

@UnlimitlesslyFunnyDude

Жыл бұрын

memorised by Blind belief not by heart

@edisonmanafi5985

Жыл бұрын

Then how come Othman burn all of them what was the reason I can only thing that he could not understand any of it because it was horrible!

@kenkaniff4130

Жыл бұрын

@Edison Manafi I don't get where you get the idea that Uthman burned the Qur'an because they were horrible? What happened was during Uthman,s reign there begin to appear many companion copies. These copies included exegetical notes, different chapter divisions, etc. So what Uthman did is standardized the text, then sent these texts to the major cities of that time like Makkah and others and instead of going and checking all other copies whether which one is correct and which one is wrong they should use the copy that almost every companion agreed was correct.

@Sema-Tawy

Жыл бұрын

If they all memorized the book by heart, why it took them 20 years to combine one, they could have crossed checked with each other and finalised a book in Ramadan. Why did Osman burn all the original texts!

It's astonishing that the quran was memorized by heart by thousands of man improving its preservation

Awesome , very enlightening - where is oldest manuscript which is complete and standardised one ( Uthman ) . What we get today for Urdu speaking world , which script is it ?

@syedmohammadaanasfarukh890

2 жыл бұрын

lucknow script

@monisrajput8056

2 жыл бұрын

It is also known as urdu musaf

@clementchin6353

Жыл бұрын

If the Quran is true, then Islam is false. by CARM If the Quran is true, then Islam is false. Why? Because the Quran says to trust the Gospels and the four Gospels contradict the Quran. This means the Quran can't be true if it says the gospel message is also true. In order to show this, I will quote several verses from the Quran. The more important ones are bolded for easy reference later. None can change Allah's words 6:34, "Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers." 6:115, "The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all." 18:27, "And recite (and teach) what has been revealed to thee of the Book of thy Lord: none can change His Words, and none wilt thou find as a refuge other than Him." Moses was given the Torah 2:87, "We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! 3:3, "It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)." David was given the Psalms 4:163, "We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms." Jesus was given the gospel 57:27, "Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our messengers: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of Allah; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors. Christians should judge by what is in the Gospel 5:47, "Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel." The Quran confirms the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospels and guards them Quran 2:136 Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." 5:48 To thee [the people of the gospel] We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute; Ask Christians about spiritual things. 10:94 And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. Curse on those who say God has a son 9:30, "The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Jesus not crucified 4:157, "That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not." Alright, so we see that... None can change Allah's words (6:34; 6:115; 18:27). Jesus was given the gospel by Allah (57:27). The Quran confirms the Gospels (5:48) The Gospels contradict the Quran So, if the Quran confirms the Gospels which says that Jesus was crucified (Matthew 27:26-31; Mark 15:15-20; Luke 23:32-34; John 19:17-18) and the Quran says Jesus was not crucified (Surah 4:157), then the Quran is false. But if it says the Gospels are false, then the Quran denies its own teaching and Islam is false.

Note: the "versions" of the quran is the seven spellings of it, we muslims believe in all of them and the prophet peace be upon him told us about them, and that they all descended upon him, but the othmani one(or the qurashi) is the most famous, but if you go to countries like morocco you would see the other version, so they are not like different bibles of even errors or something like that

@vinamrasinghai2339

Жыл бұрын

Nope, at least 20. Someone have I think 42 different kinds of Quran. The most famous is Haf's Quran.

@nu-nisamiracle2401

Жыл бұрын

@@vinamrasinghai2339 lol a hindi.. the most prideful and arrogant among peoples in the entire galaxy who think they are the smartest people even tho they didn't even contributed anything to humanity's civilization except for the concept of number zero.. Pfft..

@hmwndp

Ай бұрын

​@@nu-nisamiracle2401What happened?

Aces the pronunciation of Bibliothèque Nationale de France and excuses himself for it - absolutely butchers Tübingen and just continues as if nothing happened. 😂

@aiocafea

2 жыл бұрын

'oh wow he didn't even pronounce the th like in english, how much care put into-' 'TABINDJEN'

@FlyingIkaros

2 жыл бұрын

@@aiocafea 😂😂😂

the oldest Qur'ans here are far earlier than I had heard... very interesting video!

It just made eyes opened.

Mashallah...a complete research

everyone is talking about how informational this is but why is no one talking about how accurate the pronunciation is ( of course i also appreciate the information)

First off - no apology needed for pronunciation errors in other languages. Your accent alone is so rich and pleasant to listen to. Second - the early Muslims had a solid point when they claimed the original Arabic was sacred. The bulk of discrepancies that cause conflict in religions come from interpretation of a language and/or culture that is foreign to the present day reader. A good example I picked up the other day; Joseph’s coat was always referred to as having many colors. There’s even a rose named the Joseph’s Coat rose based on this translation. Well, the original wording in its original context was more likely referring to a long coat with sleeves, such as an individual would wear for special occasions, or if they were wealthy and didn’t have to work for a living. While this one’s simple and doesn’t hold a record for any dramatic schisms, it’s an example of where many of the controversies we have today likely originated. A lot of words just to say thank you for the fabulous work on this video. Matt only brings in the best! I

@e-college-sait

Жыл бұрын

ever noticed that the 'orignal' korans were written in a North Arabic dialect and not in the Mecca or Medina dialect Quaraish (I don't know the right spelling) as Uthman demanded?

@MultiAmmar2000

Жыл бұрын

@@e-college-sait I do not think you understand what you are saying. What do you mean written in dialect and then ordered to be written in another dialect?

@SpringStarFangirl

5 ай бұрын

As a Jewish girl who has read the Tanach more times than I can count, the debate on Yosef's "coat" is more complex than that. First of all, it was a kutonet, a tunic, rather than a coat. Second, it's described as a kutonet pasim, which would generally be translated as a striped tunic. There's debate about what these stripes were- whether they were woven or embroidered, and there are some who claim that it meant that it had long sleeves. However, pasim does mean stripes, so there's a high chance that it just means a striped tunic.

Hello @usefulCharts. Im a literature and theology student and I am also religious. One thing that’s bothered me is how you missed one HUGE point to mention and its making the whole video kinda unthought about. So whether hystorically its believed or not but Quran was compiled in its entirety within 2 years of Muhammad’s dead! Yes Uthaman did standardized the arabic writing later but compilation was already done! I suggest you update this ASAP! Rest of the video is ok from study POV!

Not mentioned by the uploader but quite relevant: these manuscripts can only be dated using the parchment it was written on and are as a consequence very inaccurate for dating the text. Ink can not be carbon dated and any of these dates are only dating the parchment not the text. It was not uncommon to recycle the parchment. Dating using the script style is even more dubious.

already compiled and finished by the time of caliph Abu Bakar around 633, actually. Caliph Usman made copies from The one compiled by caliph Abu Bakar and stardardized the recitation.

@uniformityofnature1488

2 жыл бұрын

Standardising the divine word of god? Why i thought it was clear

@yassine073t

2 жыл бұрын

He didn’t standardize the recitation but the text.

@uniformityofnature1488

2 жыл бұрын

@@yassine073t wouldn’t that suggest there is an inconsistency between text and recitation?

@tanhimahmed7416

2 жыл бұрын

He didn’t standardized the words of Allah SWT. Rather he standardized the way of recitation of The Holy Quran. Arabic is a luxuriant and versatile language. One word Which is Feminine in a Group, may be used as neuter / masculine in another group previously at the time of Prophet PBUH. And, For your kind consideration, At the time of Uthman (R.) there was about 7 reciting styles in Arabic. So he assembled it into a single style and copy. Even there was no punctuation marks then. Later, Hazzaz Bin Yousuf (died 714 AD) added punctuation to the Quran. So, please don’t beat about the bush without knowing abou the preservation of Quran. If Uthman (R.) hadn’t done that, you, you people would make multifarious meanings of Quran (as we are not native arabic speakers) and have nullified Quran as the book of god.

@yassine073t

2 жыл бұрын

@@uniformityofnature1488 Yes there is. There are many letters in the Quran you don’t speak out “silent letters” there are many rules while reading the Quran correctly. Also there are slightly different recitations coupled with slightly different texts. Standardization of the Quran means correcting even the slightest mistakes, dividing the chapters correctly, and filling in the gaps if there were any.

MashAllah 🌹☝️🕋🤲🌹

شكراً جزيلاً!

Thank You

The Quran is one of the most beautiful religious texts I've ever read, so glad yall made this video exploring its history!!

@alim-xf7wz

2 жыл бұрын

Oh Man I love your videos

@holyarmor578

2 жыл бұрын

...You mean like the part when it says "fight those who don't belive in allah and mohammed until they say there are no other than allah" or maybe "all believing woman can give themselves to mohammed" ? Did you prefer the part when it says "having sex with married woman are not okay except those your right hand poses ((captured slaves), you can have sex with them (i.e r a p e) even if they are married if you capture them)". What did you think about the part "fight the Christians and the jews until the pay you the jizyah (extortion money) and feel themselves disgraced ? Can you maybe point out more specifically what was beautiful ?

@alim-xf7wz

2 жыл бұрын

@@holyarmor578 come on man the text is for early medieval age you can't judge the content by modern standards.

@holyarmor578

2 жыл бұрын

@@alim-xf7wz Well, it clearly says mohammed is the perfect human example that all muslims should imitate as much as they can. So to be a good muslim is to trying to be like mohammed...

@SuperStriker7US

2 жыл бұрын

Yoo wassap Stoney

Kids in my country memorize it from end to end for fun .. so imagine how well people from that era memorized it and how much of them spread across the world .. Coran is not only a book it's words "انا نحن نزلنا الذكر وانا له لحافظون "

@salah777

2 жыл бұрын

@@daryl94 hi Nazi christian

@amelhamdani8859

2 жыл бұрын

صحح الأية الكريمة من فضلك أخي

@aitaziz4871

2 жыл бұрын

@@amelhamdani8859 شكرا جزيلا تم التصحيح

@amelhamdani8859

2 жыл бұрын

@@aitaziz4871 بارك الله فيك

@KD400_

2 жыл бұрын

Brain training. Isnt the phrase 'off by heart' from people memorizing the Quran or something idk

I have a theory about the Birmingham Copy of Quran, I think it is wrote in prophet Muhammad's life, even before going to Madina, as the carbon test said.. Yeah, yeah.. You may ask: "what about Uthman's Unification of Quran versions, when he destroyed all of the copies? And why it is as Uthman's version" I'll tell you, what I think. In Book of Bukhari sunnah, it's said that Uthman's kept Abu Bakr's copy, to be the main copy, to copy from it the other copies, and destroyed the other old copies. It said that Zayd bin Thabit and Omar bin Alkhattab didn't wrote all of the Quran over again, but gathered the old copies of each chapther, and compare it to the last version of Quran; then, re-order it. Ater that, they filled the gaps in the pages (by re-writing) that was made because of ordering the Quran. So, Most of the Quran in that copy was written in prophet Muhammad's life, and kept by Caliph Abu Bakr, Omar, and so, Caliph Uthman. And, since chapter of "Isra'" to "Taha" all of them are chapters that given to Muhammad in Makkah before Hijrah, which are that Birmingham copy about. Then, it'll be logical to think that it was already written, prepared and in a good order, before going to Madina.

@aaquib2010

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know what the Birmingham Script contains? teach me plz

@Normal_user_coniven

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaquib2010 I know that, because I read about it, it is also mentioned in the video: 10:40

@aaquib2010

2 жыл бұрын

@@Normal_user_coniven ok jazakallah, u have a good knowledge, may Allah increase it more

@yojan9238

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaquib2010 you can read it clearly in the video. It's the Surah Thaha. The surah that causes Caliph Umar to embraced Islam.

@MAbuRowais

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a nice theory. But it’s wrong. In the time of the prophet (peace be upon him), the Quran was not written on paper and assembled as a book. This procedure was only after the prophet’s life (peace be upon him) done. The manuscript though can be dated back to time of his blessed companions. Anyway, the Quran was primarily passed down through tongue and memorization. And we can date the Quran back to the prophet (peace be upon him) through a large amount of rich chains of narration. That’s the reason why we know how every word in the Quran is pronounced and how they’re vocalized.

It is amazing that we have Quran pieces from the time of the Prophet and a nearly complete Quran from the time of Sahaba (companions of the Prophet). It proves that the modern Quran that we are reading has not changed over time. Thanks for the info.

@musawenkositshabalala45

Жыл бұрын

What?

@rizwanahmed2662

5 ай бұрын

@supism This is not true. The Prophet in his presence completed the Quran in written Book form, which "completed the Deen".

I always find it interesting to find the earliest copy of a text. What about the earliest copies found of the Hadith and the Sunnah?

@BillGreenAZ

2 жыл бұрын

@Chris Walker Very nice. Thanks for the reply.

@BillGreenAZ

2 жыл бұрын

@mohamed the guy Thanks for the reply. I was hoping there would still be some left from near the time they were originally written.

@israfilangel8062

2 жыл бұрын

@@BillGreenAZ sahifat hammam ibn Munabbih and some others are the earliest, you can check a video about this on a channel calles (One Message Foundation) you will see all the earliest ones

@BillGreenAZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@israfilangel8062 Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out.

@e-college-sait

Жыл бұрын

the earlies version of the koran and hadith are from the 8 century by Utman, the older versions are pre-koranic texts ,for other sources. The hadith have a bad reputation since over 100.000 were ongoing when the caliphs were fed up with them and diminushed them to around 6.000, later to be corrected (?) to more. All off them are at least 100 year after mohamed lived.

Excellent video

Everything was just fine. Did you use a cartoon picture of prophet in the beginning of the video?

11:20 you say the Birmingham manuscript is likely produced after Uthman because it matches. What is that based on?

As a muslim Arab, I was expecting to be able to read most of these manuscripts. Shockingly, I couldn’t even read a single word except for the oldest manuscript. This just shows how difficult it was for non-Arabs to learn Arabic back then.

@hasyinatulula1413

2 жыл бұрын

the خط isn't it?

@theastronomer5800

2 жыл бұрын

It's the style of writing. If you try to read Medieval English you'll have a hard time as well. I have some Latin manuscripts and the older the are the harder they are to read!

@hasyinatulula1413

2 жыл бұрын

@@theastronomer5800 you are right bro

@nu-nisamiracle2401

Жыл бұрын

Thy shall not pass!!

How bout doing something about hadith and the narration chains etc.

Jazakamu Allahu khairan. This is equivalent to a Master’s Thesis; may Allah reward you with goodness 🌸

Ramadhaan Mubaarak, my Ummah 2022.

@marwan75

2 жыл бұрын

Allah ybarek feek ♥️

Christian Egyptian here very interested to learn about ancient Qur'an manuscript

@omarespinosa9826

2 жыл бұрын

No we christians dont care about it because we know the bible is way older than the quran and the quran doesnt align with bible, the quran denies that isaac was the one chosen to be sacrificed, the quran says it was ishmael when in reality was isaac the bible was first, jesus was the fullfilment of all the holy scriptures

@betrayal6231

2 жыл бұрын

@@omarespinosa9826 knowledge is power. Knowing everyone’s perspective on things can only help foster peace amongst religions

@veramae4098

2 жыл бұрын

Just accept my personal thanks for finishing the job the Romans started, destroying the Great Library at Alexandria. Damn Pagans. Burn it to the glory of God1!

@M7md-3la2

2 жыл бұрын

Egyptian Muslim here 😏 السلام عليكم لو عندك فضول ممكن تسأل ان شاء الله اساعد لو اقدر

@omarespinosa9826

2 жыл бұрын

@@betrayal6231 i know more than enough about the quran, the most danger scriptures of the quran is the one that denies that isaac was the real chosen one to be sacrificed by abraham ordered by god, the second one is that tell the muslim to kill jews so they can have 70 virgin on heaven and it goes on and on and on, i know a lot about the quran

Great video

CLAUS SCHWAB Are his grandfather and grandmother from the both side Rotschild? As he is new boss for many countries nowadays, can you provide us his origins?

The mind-boggling point is, even if all the written Qurans vanished from the world today, the Muslims via Quran Hafiz who are in the millions throughout the world on all continents can recreate Allah's words in the written form. Takbir ☝️

@ayoub.boughaba

Жыл бұрын

So people can't forget and makeup stuff

@kirapiwpiw4804

Жыл бұрын

@@ayoub.boughaba you're right, bible is one of the example

@user-fr1bm8bx3v

Жыл бұрын

@@ayoub.boughaba i don't know about others, but in Indonesia, all those memorized Qur'an spend 2 hours reciting 2 out of 30 juz(partition of the quran) everyday as to preserve their memorization. That's excluding recitation in main and supplicant prayer.

@earthlycreature8772

Жыл бұрын

Hafiz-e-Quran are only in current versions being read today? Also note that none of the manuscripts shown in the video are factually the Qurans being read today.

@user-fr1bm8bx3v

Жыл бұрын

im just reminding u that, if u dont acept the truth no one lose nothing except urself. keep ur confidence in ur make believe religion then, good luck.

How fascinating. I've never heard of the Blue Qur'an.

Mashallah beautiful

Do you think you could make a video of the Bundy family tree

The book is beautiful and the language is beautiful.

@sentientflower7891

2 жыл бұрын

@@daryl94 Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuclear bombed by devout white Evangelical Christians.

@mohamedismail6273

2 жыл бұрын

@@daryl94 jealousl christian spotted

@dragonfire3727

Жыл бұрын

That's sooooo subjective

@sentientflower7891

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonfire3727 have you read the Bible?

@ArtSalah-nv5lj

10 ай бұрын

​@@sentientflower7891The Quran isn't beautiful...

Good explanation. But you mentioned inaccurate information Caliph Othman did not make a new version during his reign Rather, he relied on the copy written by Zaid bin Thabet during the reign of the first Caliph Abu Bakr, and the copy was preserved with Hafsa, the wife of the Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace. there is another thing, Muslims do not pay much attention to manuscripts because the method of preserving the Qur’an was through memorization and repetition of the entire Qur’an Most of the Muslims memorized the Qur’an at the age of seven years, and the memorizer obtained a certificate from the Sheikh for that Qur’an was preserved by the large number of memorizers over the ages.

@vinamrasinghai2339

Жыл бұрын

You are not an Arab, most likely from the subcontinent. Because people like you, a new Quran cannot be written.

It's... Awe inspiring to be able to read these old manuscripts with all the بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم And ayat placement exactly same to where they're found these days

You should do a video about Star Trek

Has anybody got the full translation of the Birmingham Folio?

@kaekaeoshi69

29 күн бұрын

No, but you can check Wikipedia for some photos and you can compare it with today's Qur'an (it's identical)

@TruthPrevails101

29 күн бұрын

@@kaekaeoshi69 NO!!!! you can not say it is identical is you do not have a full translation!!! Please do not behave like the best of the deceivers.

@kaekaeoshi69

29 күн бұрын

@@TruthPrevails101 there is one picture in Wikipedia that compare the manuscript (1 page) and today's Qur'an (End of Surah Maryam and beginning of Surah Taahaa) And they have identical word by word. The difference is just letter font and adding vowel sign For Qur'an readers who learn Arabic, they'll read the manuscript easily even without vowel sign

@TruthPrevails101

29 күн бұрын

@@kaekaeoshi69 So one page may be similar, but the other three may not be??? So again, unless you have the full word by word translation, you cannot say that hey are the same.

@fortravelpressdream

27 күн бұрын

​​​@@TruthPrevails101 Before claiming find proofs , that's how it works. Qur'an means ' recitation ' Not just a 'book'. It claimed that it will be preserved 1400 years ago, Till this day Millions still memorize it , even non-arab kids at 6 can memorize it fully, we recite it every single day 5 times, it's not an easy mission for someone to come up with his own version and ask us to follow.

ASSALAMUALAIKUM ALL🤍 SYAWISH REHMAN ( REHMAN'S ? ) WHAT IS THE MEANING OF YOUR PREETY NAME ? ALHAMDULILLAH 🤲 RAMADAN MUBARAK 😍

@truthfinder2575

2 жыл бұрын

Hyper sexuality in men is a mental disorder, in men it is called satyriasis. Analyzing mohammad's deeds and mentality undoubtedly he was such a person due to following. 1) Seeing a nursing infant girl child Um Habiba daughter of Abbas, Mohammad said I will Nikah (marry for sex) you when you become time for marriage. 2) He advised women to submit him for sex, that is an act which pleases Allah 3) He gets erection when he saw a women on the road and runs to his wife to have sex 4) When he sees his adopted son's wife when she was changing dress, Mohammad gets his Allah's permission to marry her and his adopted son divorces her. 5) He raided neighbouring tribes at night, kills men and takes their wives and daughters and allows his warriors to share those women for sex. 6) He falsely promises a heaven for his warriors and believers , with 72 women(70 are prostitutes from hell) with special beauty, special boobs, continuous sex for one year , rivers of liquor and so on. 7) He does sex with a slave women in one of his wives house, when his wives knew it and questioned him, his Allah threatens his wives that he can divorce you all...so on hundres Muslims, be wise. It is shameful to follow this dirty fellow Mohammad as your prophet

Mashallah 🌼🌹

The verse in that picture of the blue Quran 1:45 is verse 28 of chapter 30 (Al-Rūm). تبدأ من نهاية كلمة رزقناكم بالآية 28 الى بداية كلمة وكانوا بالآية 32

Wish you would’ve covered comparisons between the different versions - where they differed and were the same, for instance

@FireEverLiving

2 жыл бұрын

There are no notable differences between them. The Qur'an is like Homer's works in that it has audible rhythm and is meant to be memorized, so textual drift over time is more difficult.

@margaritakryuchkov9894

2 жыл бұрын

@@FireEverLiving Lies!!! "Two magicians" is *not* the same thing as "two works of magic"!!!

@Angelmou

2 жыл бұрын

@@FireEverLiving This is simply factually false. There are several differences. Denial just so that a muslim can feel comfortable is not a valid reason. Even within islamic tradition of the Hadith are alterations known like the famous goat/sheep story eating 1 verse.

@ChangedNames

2 жыл бұрын

@@Angelmou Allah has not promised to preserve the hadith, it is the work of muslims ummah of preserved it the best they could.

@Angelmou

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChangedNames I talked about the Qur'an you just skipped.

Which Quran was Utmans??????

غير المسلمين قد لا يعلمون ان جميع النسخ المحفوظة لا تتعرض مع بعضها البعض وهي نفسها المقاطع الموجودة في يومنا هذا بلا تغيير. ذلك لأن الله حفظه وجعله اخر كتاب

You are not correct about 1st compilation of Quran. It was during Khalifa Abu Bakar Siddique RA.

YOU'VE DONE JUSTICE, THANK YOU FOR EDUCATING PEOPLE.

@cherb6261

2 жыл бұрын

same as your Name Adil which means Just.

@MRAadil-kr5hg

2 жыл бұрын

@@cherb6261 thank you :)

Problem is that no one seems to have an original Uthmanic Qur'an so cannot compare it. Also there are no vowels in the manuscripts as that was developed later in Arabic writing. Wonder how different these Qur'ans are to the Hafs or Warsh Qur'an that is used by most Muslims today?

@jkmcgregor7797

2 жыл бұрын

If you buy newspapers in the Arab world they dont have dots in the papers.The arabs dont need them to read .the dots were added so people outside the Arab world can read the pronounciation

@romandacil3984

2 жыл бұрын

@@jkmcgregor7797 Interesting so if you have the consonants B & D then you know what vowel goes in the middle? Guess the wrong one and that could change the meaning of the word, the whole sentence and the context of the whole phrase or leave the entire thing into an indecipherable mishmash of nonsense. The proto-Qur'an was written in Aramaic-Syriac which was the dominant language up unto the 8th century AD. They were writen in short hand as Christian Psalms that were later translated into Arabic and the Qur'an(s). Which is why there are so many ambigious (dark) passages in them. If you compare the Hafs Qur'an with the Warsh Qur'an you get about 5,000 different variances that do affect the meaning of the passages. I suggest that you look at the work done by Dr. Jay Smith and Hatun Tash in this field.

@jkmcgregor7797

2 жыл бұрын

@@romandacil3984 the vowels aint like the English vowels .why don't you ask an Arab how they read a newspaper with no diacritics .the quran is written in arabic

@jkmcgregor7797

2 жыл бұрын

@@romandacil3984 ive seen 51 diff in hafs and warsh i dont know where 5000 come from and I dont need christian apologists misinformation

@May3yad

2 жыл бұрын

According to the Hebrew Masoretic text of genesis 17:1 onkelos or Targum Jonathan says that Prophet Abraham was a ( shelim ) ‎שְׁלִים means a Muslim וַהֲוָה אַבְרָם בַּר תִּשְׁעִין וּתְשַׁע שְׁנִין וְאִתְגְלֵי יְיָ לְאַבְרָם וַאֲמַר לֵיהּ אֲנָא אֵל שַׁדַי פְּלַח קֳדָמַי וֶהֱוֵי שְׁלִים בְּבִשְרָךְ⁠ And Abram was the son of ninety and nine years, and the Lord appeared to Abram, and said to him, I am El Shadai; serve before Me and be perfect (shelim) in thy flesh. שְׁלִים Check out the Hebrew English chaldan lexicon book You will find the Hebrew word שְׁלִים means a Muslim / Islam / devote to God Lookout for these words in safaria .org / perfect / complete / blameless Page 1064 The other similar books like that it says Muslim too On archive .org Or Google Hebrew strong 7999 In Targum Jonathan or onkelos and Aramaic Targum in safaria . Org There is many verses have the word shelim / ‎שְׁלִים / Muslim in around 25 verses In the holy twelve gospel the word perfect law / Islamic law is used too by Jesus see your good works, and glorify your Parent who is in heaven. 8. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from the law or the prophets till all be fulfilled. But behold One greater than Moses is here. and he will give you the higher law, even the perfect Law, and this Law shall ye obey. 18. Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Parent Who is in heaven is perfect. My TikTok username is lordofpeace25e I do Dawah to none Muslims

My question to the poster/presenter of this video... have these various manuscripts been compared, one to the other, and to the current standardized version for variations in meaning...and not just in spelling etc? Has there been an honest comparison of the various old manuscripts... comparing script to script for consistency etc.? Are all the standardized Uthman version or are there any that read as the Warsh version or the Al-Duri, Qalun or Hamsa versions that are more common in various parts of the ummah and do have differences in meaning among them? I know for example, that the Hafs and Warsh have meaning differences when one is performing wudu/tammanum (sorry...I do not speak arabic so my spelling of thse terms might be off)... in one, dry ablution is sufficient for all purposes... but in the other, it is not sufficient if a man comes to prayers after being in his wife's bed, if you get my meaning. In another example... if one misses prayers... one is to feed a poor person... in the other, it says to feed poor people... which is correct/sufficient as penance?? one or more poor people? There are many of these kinds of differences... so the books are NOT the same...

@akays1991

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not the video presenter, nor I am a scholar in Quranic history. But I have an opinion about this (sorry this turn out to be quite lenghty). We as Muslim are encouraged to learn and understand the Quran in its original language, Arabic. Never once I met a born Muslim started learning Quran from translations. I myself are able to fluently read Quran in Arabic (even allowed to teach other colleagues) since I was 10yo. As for memorization, I didnt put that much effort in that so I only memorize around 20 chapters. As for the translation, I agree that there are many translations available, but again, we did not stem our practice on translations alone. We even prohibited to translate the Quran ourself if we are not a scholar! In Quran there are explicit and implicit informations. Explicit rules wont be debated by scholars. But sometimes explicit rules in Quran does not come with explicit detail on how to implement the rules. Here come Hadiths, ijma' and qias. From there the scholars will discuss or debate which is the better way to impliment the rules. Ultimately, the Muslim nowadays can follow either one of 4 mazhab. Theres no difference between these mazhab in term of faith (aqiidah). The difference lies in how to practice as a Muslim, and mostly this differences make it easier for people from different geographical locations to practice Islam. For example my location is abundant with water, so in my mazhab, touching people of different gender with proper relation can cancel the ablution. But in other country where water is scarce, or where it is hard to control the skin contact due to crowded area (like during in pilgrimmage in Makkah),mere skin contact wont cancel the ablution based on the mazhab practiced there. Nothing wrong in practicing all mazhab at once if we already well versed in that line of knowledge. But as regular non-scholar Muslim, it is easier for me to just follow one mazhab to avoid confusion. But if I went to another country that practice another mazhab, I will learn the basics of their practice beforehand, if I want to practice together with them, as sign of respect to the community. If I just practice alone there, I can just stick to my original way. Truly, this difference in mazhab is really a blessings to us Muslim, making it easier for us to practice anywhere (even in space). Also as for new Muslims, it is not weighted on them to immediately practice perfectly or able to read and understand Quran. They just need to continue their learning with the local Islamic scholars. Their faith is the utmost important, then the practice will follow later on. Thank you for reading my humble opinion. Have a nice day 😊.

@abdullahsagga7195

2 жыл бұрын

The topic of the different qiraat (readings) of the Quran has been discussed over and over again, and we know from authentic Hadith all the different qiraat are correct and they don't contradict. All meaning are correct so e.g wether you give to 1 poor or to many poor both are correct and accepted. Peace 🕊️

@alahatzaifat1872

2 жыл бұрын

@@akays1991 so what I get from your reply is that the rules are arbitrary, correct? Since if they are different in different parts of the world... and since it matters in some places but not in others... then the guidance from your god is not fair and even across the board. You JUSTIFY it by saying it was because it was made easier here or there... but in truth.. this makes the rules arbitrary... unimportant. For example, come from a place where water is scarce, as you mentioned and I do not need to be as careful with my ablutions for certain things... but if I go to a place like where you live and did what I know as my rules, I would be considered a: disrespectful or b: sinning... but this is the guidance I have been taught... and is natural to me. What difference does it make where I am if I am following the guidance I was given from a child, let's say? This makes NO sense when you look at it logically. Why should the muslim who lives among water have to care MORE about touching and other things than one who lives in an arid place? This is like the rules around fasting during ramadan... your god did not take into account that people might live in places where the sun does NOT actually set or rise, during parts of the year... or if it does, it is like for an hour or two... so a muslim living there during ramadan either has 2 hours of daylight so they can eat alllll day... or there are only two hours of night, so they starve for 22 hours a day... for a MONTH?? Your god was not godding very well when he made up these rules... now was he?

@scavhub5006

2 жыл бұрын

@@alahatzaifat1872 Damn looking from your pfp you're one of those folks who desperately try to make arguments against religion and dedicate their whole lives against religion. Get a life. Don't try to talk about differences and no difference if you can't even speak Arabic

@theastronomer5800

2 жыл бұрын

@@abdullahsagga7195 Actually, that is not correct if you read Islamic sources. Some reading have very interesting variants that do give different meanings - many are mentioned in al-Tabari for example as he was writing before the canonization happened, and he rejects some of the readings which later were canonized. An example would be 17:102 where you have "you know" in the Hafs and "I know" in the Ibn Khaaled readings. al-Jalalayn talks about this variant (a variant reading [for ‘alimta, ‘you know’] has ‘alimtu [‘I know’]) and mss scholars say that this is not a reconcilable difference (it's either Moses or Pharaoh who knows, they are not the same). There are many other such examples.

لأن مخطوطة صنعاء مخطوطة تعليمية فلذلك تمتلك عدد من الاختلافات مقارنتا بالمخطوطات الأخرى

Listening and watching to this video may we safely conclude that there are different versions of the Qur'an? Kaliph Uhtman standardized the Qur'an, but he destroyed other versions. How can we be so sure he had the wisdom to preserve the right version and why did he destroy other versions? Now we cannot check his judgement. Maybe he destroyed the right version and preserved the false one?

@yaserbatal6474

Жыл бұрын

The reason "why", the method "how", and the names of the team who did it "who", and the differences were all documented by Muslims in their books. The different versions of Quran " called Qira'at" are also kept by heart and still being used by Muslims until now. The internal evidences of the integrity Quran and the standard criterion which was set by Allah in the Quran on how to know whether it came from Allah is also there, studied in details by both Muslim Scholars and anti-Islam orientalists. It only takes you few hours of reading in Islamic sources to know the answer to your question

@_Faisal_

Жыл бұрын

uthman didnt do it all by himself, he himself was one of the closest companions of the prophet pbuh, and he discussed it very thoroughly with other senior companions. the master copy which the scribes copied from was of the wife of the prophet pbuh. The scribes themselves were also companions, some of whom being the original scribes whilst the prophet pbuh was alive. Also, the quran, even today, is widely preserved through the oral tradition, with millions having memorised it, and could recite the quran in its entirety without looking at the text, this was also the case throughout the entirety of the religion, especially how the prophet pbuh himself was illiterate

@ashyasin

5 ай бұрын

Exactly why they claim it’s the perfect word of god when there were to many versions !?

Just imagine if the oldest copies of the Bible was in Saudi Arabia museum or Pakistani museum?? yeah exactly, so UK and France must return the copies to Saudi Arabia or Egypt.

The amazing thing that all Qur'an manuscripts have no letter different than current copies While bible manuscripts you see the same book but with different topics or different story telling style

Manuscript are secondary to us. First and most importantly is memorization of the Quran in our minds and hearts because God has made it easy to learn. Memorization from the prophet to the companions to their children and so on…………. Alhamdulilah

“Acquired” just say stolen or plundered.

Some of the oldest Qur'ans in the world are in Britain, Germany and France thanks to European colonialism.

@bentoumimohammed-yaaqoub1248

Жыл бұрын

The Muslims kept it safe on their hearts among centries and they can make it to another centries , thanks to ALLAH

So, even though the Birmingham Manuscript was probably produced during or just after the Prophet's lifetime, the text of it was already standardized? Is that correct?

@vinamrasinghai2339

Жыл бұрын

Nope, there various phases of it. The current one is the 1924 Quran which is read by 85% of Muslims.

@mralchemist3976

11 ай бұрын

@@vinamrasinghai2339 r u from WhatsApp university

its preserved orally since prophet time until now. literally theres sertificate for lot of memorizer who learn from who from who all names all way back to prophet himself. .the written form is produced for those that learn through written form. Qur'an is word of God, while what prophet said or did are compiled seperated in Hadith.

( 1:01 ) This fact is somewhat wrong because in some sources it says that within 6 to 9 days after the prophet’s death (11 Hijra, 632 AD), Ali ibn Abi-Talib (the fourth caliph) had written the Quran and collected it, it is believed that the original Quran that Ali wrote was lost around 260 Hijra (847 AD) but two known and well-documented Qurans written by Ali still exist, the first and oldest being in San’aa, Yemen in the Grand Mosque of the country and the second in Najaf, Iraq in the Haydari Library of the shrine of Ali ibn Abi-Talib, those two were written around the same time as they were dated at the end of both Qurans (39 to 41 Hijra, 659-661 AD), and those are the most known ones, but there are other Qurans written by Ali, and nearly all of them have been continued after his death/assassination either by his sons (Al-Hassan ,Al-Hussain, Mohammed ibn Al-Hanafiya, etc.) or other calligraphers of the era (fun fact about Arabic calligraphy is that the father of Arabic calligraphy as we know it is Ali ibn Abi-Talib, he’s called (سند الخطاطين) which roughly translates to the inspiration of Arabic calligraphy).

@HBlaine

2 жыл бұрын

So i think by reading your comment, there maybe should be a video on Sunni quran compilation and Shia quran compilation.

@yassine073t

2 жыл бұрын

Shia who don’t believe in complete Quran today are disbelievers.

@isseabdirahmanweheliye9010

2 жыл бұрын

@@HBlaine there was no shia in the first 400 yrs of the islamic history so.

@MultiAmmar2000

Жыл бұрын

@@HBlaine There was no such thing as "shia" and "sunni" at the time of the prophet. There is no sunni or shia Quran as they are the same, nor is there a differing Quran between scholars in the same sect. It is not the same as the differences in christianity for example. I hope what I said makes sense.