Old School Rockford Fosgate Power 650 Amplifier Amp Dyno Test
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After you guys begging pleading for almost 10 years, I finally finished the video on the Rockford Fosgate Power 650. This $1500 amp was made between 1984-1993 and at the time was in the middle of the lineup for the power series amps (prior to the Power 100HD, but we don't include that as a Power series anyway).
The Power 650 is a four-channel amp rated to deliver:
125 watts x 4 channels at 4 ohms
162.5 watts x 4 channels at 2 ohms
325 watts x 2 channels bridged at 4 ohms
Let's find out what this 30 year old amp can do!
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@grin64
4 жыл бұрын
Do you sale on eBay? I remember seeing a pic like yours with that 5 foot amp in your hands.
@johnsayman2271
4 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on audiobahn 2600 amp? Or Niche audio 12 in comp subs? I am building a 79 chevy k 10
@robertyarbrough502
4 жыл бұрын
I live in South Carolina and have and old school Rockford Fosgate needs work how would I get in touch with Shawn
@monkeymanstones1
4 жыл бұрын
Do you think your brother could repair a Rockford Fosgate 200iX? An ex girlfriend stuck a screwdriver into the vents and jammed it around. Rockford Fosgate refused to provide any help so it's just been a paperweight ever since. I sent it to one shop for repair and it came back with 1 non functioning channel and the other with a horrible static crackle that is substantially louder than the music played. I've never opened it to examine the depth of her destruction, so I don't know how severe it is apart from an electrolytic capacitor bouncing around after the destruction (thank goodness for her as well as myself it was not plugged into anything when she did so - it would have likely killed her and caused further damage to the amplifier). I'd love to have it back to life!
@jevonadams8656
4 жыл бұрын
I have a hifonics gemini4 200watt amp that works if anybody collects them
I like it when you dig deep into the history.
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 🤘
@chrisgreer1911
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely kinda seems no matter how much you read or learn about the company , he always has something I never known about or heard about , so thank you Williston Audio Labs for the educational videos and everything you do and for all the money and time you have spent helping us get more educated and stop being taken on BS products
@Pinkielover
4 жыл бұрын
For us it was like yesterday,
@PeterFeltersnatch852
4 жыл бұрын
@@wal that's crazy back in the nineties here in Pennsylvania we are always running JL w6s on Rockford fosgate amps. Oddly enough sealed boxes with three 12in subs was me and my buddies go to.... Man I remember them days like they were yesterday. But a very long time ago. Now my kid is that age 😂😑 Thanks for the memories! 🙏
@ernestoruesta9446
4 ай бұрын
Maybe a factory defect or bad caps I noticed in my 650 the right channel was louder It has been in the closet for 20 years maybe I will rebuild it one day
Dude I waited 30 years for this. Thank you brother.
That brings back memories of my 2nd gen 650 in my Firebird, with 2 Punch Pro 15s and a mullet!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Yessir! Nostalgia is king!
@thegravegigger891
4 жыл бұрын
650 on 2 15's jammed
@seanhower5130
2 жыл бұрын
You made the bucks back then because that amp was very expensive,only saw a few of these at car stereo events,I still have a punch 150 with fan shroud,punch 45 hd powder coated white,and a power 300 still in my bone yard collection,and a punch 200 ix DSM,still in use .the punch 200 I have bridged to a jl audio 123v3 in a sealed box and sounds good, tough amp they are so dependable .
@Juggernaut-fg2up
Жыл бұрын
Guaranteed that beat your heart out
I had one of these bad boys on 2 kicker c18 's back in 89. One of the best amps in that era!!
Thx Big D appreciate all the hard work you put into your videos
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
My dad has this amp mosfet 650 back in 1989 I was 10yrs old he was 28 this was hooked up to 2 15s godfather subs man long story short he sold the truck in 1992 with amp installed 😥 damn the good old days may you RIP dad
Old School - had a Punch 75 and loved it. Never had an issue, but it definitely got hot. New amps today are amazing how much power you can get in such a small package.
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Great amps and many still working today!
I met Wayne Harris at the CES in the 8’0’s he had 12 kicker 15’s in a mustang it was sick! Hey my 650 had a thermal temp fan that was variable speed and thermal controlled.
I used to watch these guys in my neighborhood install these back in the day. It's how I learned how to install my own stuff. Their car group was called 'Ground Pounders' and they were from Jacksonville NC. If anyone knows of these guys, the guy with the Dodge Daytona was who I learned from.
I had one back in 1988 damn that brings back memories, the 300 put out as much power as the 650 tho from what I’ve experienced.
beautiful restoration
I had to come back and comment again I still have my kenwood krc 999 2 and my power 650 I will never get rid of them I'm glad I came across you video . I will send the 650 out for restoration thanks Brother. Ps I'm 53 years old
I remember a buddy in high school running these amps.. He had a Power 300 pushing 2 12’s, and it was an impressive amp.
I missed seeing old school stuff!! Awesome video love the history lesson, please do more!
An absolute jewel of an amp
Great video on the amp. I didn’t know about the different series of those Amps until today.
Great job Big D. One of my favorite amps of all time.
@oscarmanueljavaleramartine2148
2 жыл бұрын
I got one for sale,power 650 mosfet
Great video! Nothing like oldies!
Awesome! Love the old school Rockford Fosgate amps!!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
You and me both brother
Thank you Sir....another great video
I love how you restored that Power 650 back to new again. I also like the fact that you load all the channels when testing to show its true output.
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother. I didn’t mention but the 4 ohm stereo tests had the opposing channels bridged at 4 ohms, so they were actually loaded at 2 ohms
This video made my day. Thanks Big D👍
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 👍
Thank you big D. I’ve been waiting for this forever!!!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve also been waiting forever for that check from Ed McMahon. At least one of us got our wish 🤣
@FACafe-pt9bd
4 жыл бұрын
Williston Audio Labs LOL. Old schoolers thank you buddy. The guys you source for repairs and restoration did a top notch job on the beauty. Glad to know there’s people who still appreciate these monsters from back in the day.
That's some old school awesomeness right there. You know you got what you paid for when you bought one of those. Pure sonic bliss and tough enough to drive nails!! Awesome video BigD!!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
You are correct sir!
Yessssss! Thanks bro been waiting on this for years 😁😁
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry it took so long!
😍 What a lovely amp. Omg I like it. Brings back the good times. 😎😎👍👍
1987 in Los Angeles, guys would follow you,this was top tier earthquake amp
Had one in probably 1990 i got for $10 because they thought it was broken and didn't know about the internal fuses. I bought it for parts and was soo happy when i found that.
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Oh man you got lucky!
I have a feeling this video is going to get a ton of views. Its amazing how big the old school RF crowd is.
Designed to be listened to loud.. so you don’t hear the fan ☺️ That refinish on the top cover is mind blowing, awesome job done!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I sat in that hurst in the mid 80s. These and the Matts were the some of the first true beasts👍
I work next to where the main office and factory used to be in Tempe AZ. They had a HUGE building. But recently moved to a smaller one up the street.
Shawn does some amazing work! ive worked with him, and he's done some amp repair for me before.
Nice one mate 😁 trip down memory lane, I have not heard the name Rockford Fosgate for more years than I care to remember, it's good to see these things have been looked after and preserved, this stuff is foundation may it continue, well done mate.😁👍🇬🇧🏴
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Now that!!!!!!! Was a beast of an amp in its time omg that’s purty
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah 30yrs ago it was top of the power classes fo sho
I waited so long for this video now i have to send mine to be restored and cleaned. I have the 85-89 model.
Ohh yeah! I have been waiting for this video forever!! This is my all time favorite amp I love this model. I have a video of the 4” fan model on my channel pushing a pair of kickers like nothing
Yeah Boii! Sweet example of a fine piece of engineering 👌
I had a power 650 back in the day and loved it. Still kicking myself for selling it.
I got into car audio because of this amp on 2 15's. This guy would drive by my house and I could hear him from miles away. I'm proud to say at the age of 44 I now own one of the sweetest white power 650's on the planet... Just sayin...now I know watt it do......
Kick ass video brother! Great history lesson! Appreciate you buddy.
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Yo Brad hope you are feeling better
@legendsofcaraudiobradnewso8424
4 жыл бұрын
Williston Audio Labs a whole bunch thanks for asking buddy
These amps are from before my time but still very cool
No way! I was looking for a dyno video on one of these two days ago. Derrick is a mind reader.
Very nice my man! Great stuff!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Sweet numbers for some old amps👍👍
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Ooooooold skool 🤘
another nice video nice work big :D
Shawn is the man when it comes to amp repair. He has done many for me
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
He is super busy, but his level of work is like no other
@bryanshedd3927
4 жыл бұрын
You said he is in SC? Any contact information you could pass along? I am in SC also. Thanks for the help.
@hookhousebeatz
4 жыл бұрын
@@bryanshedd3927 yeah me too....I'd love to have some contact info!
The best amps ever
I had a pwr 650 in an 88 mustang GT mated to 2 RF Pro 12's in a slightly oversized sealed enclosure firing backwards into the rear hatch, mated with a couple RF 45s on dash tweets door 6.5s and rear factory location holding midbass 6 x 9s. Really good front stage for the time. Actually hit 136 /138 depending on you trusted the offbrand SPL meter...amd did this with a CASSETTE player.... Nakamitchi/Denon setup.. Really enjoyed this set-up. Lol. I was a kid then.
@wal
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏
Wow Old School Car Audio for life
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Dat 4 sho
I got learnt about RF 650’s today!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Werd ✌️
Oh man this takes me back! I went deep in debt and bought a Power 650 in/around 1990. Wound up with it powering 5 (yes, a strange number) Punch 12” inch subs.
I installed Rockford amps daily for about 7 years. Awesome amps. Hated those independent gain controls.
New subscriber... I'm digging this old school stuff, hell I'm old enough to remember when these 650's came out. Kicking around in my storage room is an old Carver, Hifonics Vulcan, Rockfod Fosgate XV-1 (serial number 79 I think, etched on with a dremel), and a dbx decoder.
I'd be very happy to own any power version of a fosgate amp there underrated and very good sq loads of power!!
These are badass!!! Had a punch45hd and it was a monster!!! Ran it tri mode!!! In my 69 AMX!!!
Fantastic stuff rite there, 👍
Fosgate Amps never disappoint
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
This is a fact
I owned a 650 I bought in 89. Had #33 of the 1k terminator. Both kicked ass
Takes me back to my childhood
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia is strong!
Old school love!
When one channel (or pair of channels) exhibits that lower power, it means the VI limiter is engaging prematurely. You can see the amp jogging back and forth on the current draw. It might be a leaky protection transistor or a bad cap in one of the protection circuits. Worth looking into as it will cause the amp to clip prematurely on certain loads.
Love the test I have 2 of them
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow!
I had the first mosfet series 650 bridged to 2 channels at 2 ohms on 4 rockford pro 12s in a crx back in 1993. CRAZY LOUD
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
👌😬👍
And to think in my youth I worked at a store selling and installing these amps. There were huge strides in car audio gear during that time
I had a Power 650 running 4 earthquake pro 15’s back in 92-95… and let me tell you that shit would take your breath away! I had it in a 87 Chrysler LeBaron and everything on that car was flexing hard!!! I had mine bridged to 2 channel running at 2 ohms and never had a problem problem with it, it did have its own battery though.
Pumps fist!!!! Eff the phone, I had to watch this in HD glory on the big screen. I have been thirsty to see this model.
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Fo sho! 4k baby!
God those old Fosgates and HiFonics amps seemed put out WAY more than they were rated for. We had it great in the 80s and 90s
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
They did fo sho
When we tested the Fosgate Power 650 it didn't make it's power rating. In my buddies vehicle we placed 1st or 2nd in Amateur Enhanced SPL in 1993 at the IASCA world finals in Tulsa. I don't really remember because that was not my focus. Amateur 0-100 watts was it. Martin Mohr had the 1992 world record at 131 db with two Punch 45s and I reset it at 146.7 db using two HiFonics Ulysses in 1993. Remember we had to play commercially available music and the mic wasn't able to be jammed into the loudest spot in the vehicle. If I could go back in time I would have wedged a 4X4 between the floor and roof of the van and picked up a couple of more db. The roof flexed like a mofo. The other van was in the HiFonics demo booth. We hit 153db with it, from the drivers seat. Everybody was there. Fukuda, PJs Autosound, Harry Kimura, you name it. Later on I would live a dream where when I saw Orion make a raft with a stereo on it an float down the salt river in Mesa. Decades later I went to Tempe to Orion HQ and I did go for a float down the salt river. I've done it multiple times and I will do it again. It's a trip worth making from Canada.
Back in 91 i ran a Power 650 to 2-12" Fosgate pro series and Boston acoustics mid and tweeters. I wish I kept that amp
Hell ya that’s when I was a kid just getting into audio started with home audio receivers that could take 4 ohm loads and 30 years later it’s still my passion. The W6’s were the icing on the cake but they got that phunky ohm loads going on. I just know when they cane out as a 10 years old I couldn’t afford them ya I had some smut mags but car audio and Low Rider mags I have more of. Brings me back... wait I’m gettn old.... DOH!!!🤦🏽♂️
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
I could only use one side of the amp powering those subs, but they still slammed!
Big D Wiz! I just notice your subscriber count is just off the charts! 👊😎
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
You will get there my brother! Keep up the awesome content and they will come ✌️
The only 4 channel amp I've ever seen, that everyone used on there subs!, my homie who had big money back in 94, had 2 of these on 4 15 inch cerwin vega stroker's, in a new burban!, that year i lost 30 percent of my hearing permanently!!!
@BASSstarlet
4 жыл бұрын
So sad :/
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
With the right subs in the right box these amps can make them bump!
@michaelhollon5332
4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day almost every 4 channel amp I've seen was bridged to run subs.
@dietrichwilliams2913
4 жыл бұрын
Michael hollon, you right, we didn't give a hoot back then!, i had a few i bridged ta 2 channel, but this was the one everybody wanted!
Awesome video!!!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
👈 Brought to you by this guy 😝
@shawnk4517
4 жыл бұрын
@@wal You are the one with the talent for making great videos!!
Man this takes me back. I had it connected to my kenwood k R C 999 2 with 4 fosgate pro 12 set up in mid base range. Nothing compared to Rockford Fosgate back in the day
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Now that’s a setup!
I still have an OEQ1 with the arrow on the “c” in “the punch”. Had lots of Rockford equipment with that logo and still have lots of Rockford equipment with the diamond “r” and “Dracula font”.
Thanks BigD, would to see you do an old Xtant some time! Keep up the good work!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
I have one to try out 👌
@nowerlater
4 жыл бұрын
@@wal Yeah boy!
the Punch 150 was my goto amp, it all started one day with a pair of 8" Kicker passive rad truck speakers and Alpine 5 1/4 coax's on a punch 45.....
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the 150 was a Mack daddy amp
I remember when my buddy was hooking up my other buddies Rockford fosgate Punch amp any touch the power and ground and smoked it! I'm talkin cream cheese smoke filled the cabin like I've never seen smoke!!! Den lamps used to put out some serious power!!
My brother ran 2 of these one on 2 spp-154 in bandpass boxes and the other on the highs 2 alt and 4 battery 1 gauge welding cable it was a beast in a 83 Toyota truck
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Yo I bet so!
Oh Man! I knew a good friend who use to own the second version of the 650. I have physically hooked one up to 1965 Ford Mustang..
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Sweet amp!
Had a 91 civic wagon 4wd with 4 12evs with a power 650 Got car jacked for it ,,,,, but I had taken the amp out the day before To rewire the set up lol😁 very clean sounding amp
If you had a chrome one back in the day you were a audio God!
Thank you
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I did amazing things with the punch 40 back in my days
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
You’ll prob like this Impressive Build Only 200 watts Old School Rockford Fosgate (4K) kzread.info/dash/bejne/nZWErsWFk8vchso.html
Original W6 subs are right at the top of my list.
Badass oldschool Rockford. Never knew that they were so underrated, but the efficiency at 4 ohm 😬🔌💥(my emoji selection doesnt have the big lightning bolt 😣 or the middle firnger either! 😡👎LG keyboard.) 2 ohm wasnt that much higher than thr 4 ohm compared to the increase in power, which suprised me. MORE OLDSCHOOL! For sure. Im a Kicker man personally, current set up is 4 CVR's, 2x 6.5's,2x 6x9's, '01 Alpine 7873 headunit and 2x Power Acoustik RZR 2500's which my be the weakest link but their efficient! I havnt made a recent vid because i been hooking the stuff up. I pretry much just doubled my system. Only thing left is a cheap ass 200 amp alternator off ebay that i just ordered and wiring up my second battery. Everythings been strickly budget based. Subs are used silver gen models, 2x were free and 2x cheap local off of marketplace. Alpine- $25, anothet marketplace steal. Amps- 50 for the first one and just got the second one for 60. Practically new too. Guy only had it a month and used it for a whole week before upgrading. The electrical is costing me though. Cant find used high-out alts or have i ever came across someone selling 25ft of used 1\0 power cable (most expensive single purchase of the whole system except for the Alt i just ordered is freaking $80 for POWER WIRE!). Oh shit i been rambling on. Hell i would have done a rough draft if id known i was gonna spend 20min writing a damn book. Should have just said " 👍 Keep up the good work" but then again who the hell is gonna still be reading this long ass comment anyway. 😝 and for those who do, here is thr funnist emoji combos i can think of...🐑RA🐓+🍭!..... 👉👌👉👌👉👌👉👌❗🙉🙉🙉💩💩💩✌
That damping factor..😌
Now if only I could find specs for my p2.10 lightning audio's. Ty for the post D.
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Check da Googles or archive.org
This was 1 of my first big amps had the power 650 on 4 rf power series 12s back in 94
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
You were ballin if you had one of these
@turbo96integra
4 жыл бұрын
Wish I had kept it but gave it away years ago when I swapped to precision power art series amps. The power 650 & Kenwood 1021 are 2 I never should have gave away
@turbo96integra
4 жыл бұрын
@@wal if you ever want to sell a power 650 or 1000 let me know.
89 i was in my freshman year in highschool.. Just turned 46, life just flys by, wtf
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Only Gods had these amps in high school
@goldhunter9641
4 жыл бұрын
47 Here And I Was Just Thinking About The Same Thing, Time Has Really Flown By And Yes, It Cost A Small Fortune To Have A Good Quality 4 Sub System Back Then And Minimum Wage Was $3.85 To $4.25 An Hour For A Lot of Part Time Jobs And Buying Used Car Audio Equipment Was Quite Common Also
I remember seeing this series of amp in Mark fakudas yellow blazer.
470 watts at 4 ohms bridged damn! Pretty close to rated per channel! Love me some old school Rockford!!!
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
It’s rated 325x2 at 4 ohms, so quite a bit over rated power
I had one of these in my brand new 91 mustang GT. Another guy I knew had the MOSFET 300 and ran pro series woofers with it. I ran standard series 10s in what was called a voodoo box where two 10's shared a single air space opposed at either end of the ported box. My system destroyed his and my hatchback mustang. I should have been running pro series woofers with that amp. I ran two channels bridged at 325 w and the other two channels for my mid-base stereo. The standard series woofers would eventually damage themselves and start making noise. So I would just replace them periodically. But I got way more sound than the pro series. It took a lot more power to get the same decibels from the pro series speakers at that time.
Did well!
I remember carrying a box of those little fuses with me everywhere I went.
@MrBigR928
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too until I had my alternator pumped up and it was on then😁. Good times🤗
Was introduced to the 650 in the 80's by a friend who installed one in his Volkswagen GTI.....Played Pink Floyd, Dark side of the moon for me. I still have brain damage.....😂
Still have mine I put it on the wall I intend to get it repaired one day!
Thanks D!! Please, have a look at old Adcom amplifiers. I took mine to get repaired and shop was broken in to!!! ✌
@wal
4 жыл бұрын
Dang brother! I heard those Adcoms are a bit finicky, but I’m sure I’ll tru one soon
@NVzla
4 жыл бұрын
@@wal That'd be awesome. Had mine on 2 old xtant (still have them) 10s, at 4 ohms, it was very clean sound. My friend (shop owner), did some surgery and added RCA inputs, failed after a year, took it back and it was gone. There was a HUGE Adcom amp he had on white, supposedly modified, and still has it I'm sure. Thanks for the big WISdom and content bro. ✌