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"Are you listening to me or am i talking to deaf ears" 😂🤣
@handymandev03
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's Steve for you 🤣🤣
Not related to this video but wanted to let you know that your videos have helped me a lot, they inspired me to buy a torpedo heater that needed work and fix it myself. The pump looks exactly like an oil furnace pump, managed to clean/diagnose the issue and get it working again. Thanks!
@TheCrittercam001
2 жыл бұрын
Good job man!
She's a crusty one Mr Grinch.. perfect time of the year for that song in your videos. Yeehaw!
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
amen mama
cleaning theses boilers i remember when i lived in Virginia, always cleaned burners new thermocouple and i always pulled the piolet apart making sure the orifice was clear. great to see things done proper. great job
Got to love the old standing pilot! I put in mine Feb. 81 still going strong. Way better over the 42 years. Compared to cost to maintain flame sensor equipment! You should get a bucket vacuum.
You make it look easy. Thanks for the upload. No cold & snow yet!
Merry Christmas , oh BTW I am a retired Appliance tech, we use " One Wrap Teflon" on gas valves in AZ. it is Yellow too
Cowboy Ted would have discussed with the customer to see if they wanted any other services and pay extra for burner cleaning. You go the extra mile to take care of what they need, excellent service Steve
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
cowboy ted would be crawling down under a house down in hikxville ....i walk in standing up
@rmeshr4282
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenlavimoniere Hicksville. Haha. Damn yankee😝
Great to see your professionally you approach to every job. Thanks
You made me a better mechanic. And I am older than you. You da man !! You get it done. Respects.
You marked the cabinet for new valve, Great tech tip!
Steve, I'll let you in on a little secret: You're ALWAYS talking on deaf ears with those customers!
Gas lines hanging like clotheslines! Scary shit! He is probably right about the CONTRACTORS. Big utilities do that so they don`t have to pay for more qualified company staff. My phone company had contractors in here and screwed -up EVERYTHING. I have a private line. Picked-up the phone and heard other neighbors talking!
@blackhawks81H
2 жыл бұрын
Heard other neighbors talking? Jeez that's a royal screw up. Were the contractors 3 short goofy lookin dudes named Moe, Larry, and Curly by any chance?
|I watched this right through. Very thorough, not too much, just enough, a few new parts and a gas valve install. I would hire you in a NY minute if you were in Western MA.
I agree very thorough. Be careful breathing that stuff from the burner box.
Our Pennco Boiler is so old the guy that came to re light the pilot said it would probably out live everyone in the house. They don't make them like they used to.
You remind me of the guy I worked for in Hackensack when I was an elevator mechanic. Oh the old machines I saw, the history in these old buildings some with elevators installed in the late 1800s
It’s funny for the longest time it was only use pipe dope not Teflon. Now you can use it. Myself I just use like dope. Good vid.
I'm probably never going to have to change out one of these valves, nevertheless, this video was very informative, especially setting up the valve.
gas guy didnt leave it on the home owner turned it back on just like anybody else would lol i bet you it was cold that night
From one tech to another: Great job Steve, very thorough.
@matthewcalifana488
2 жыл бұрын
Yes Steve Always does Great work , i think Crusty the clown once lived in that boiler .
@TheAnalystradioprogram
2 жыл бұрын
Hey listen…Red tag goes in the trash and I turn the freakin thing back on. And what is anyone gonna do about it! Heyyy whoa!
One of the handiest tools I own is a brake line wrench, 3/8"tubing / open end ratchet.
@scottworkman7170
2 жыл бұрын
Another name for those is "flare nut wrench, but ya, easier and a little faster to use than open-end
I am amazed that you repaired this boiler. I got rid of a boiler of that vintage 30 years ago and replaced it with a new more efficient boiler which paid for itself in 18 months from the reduced gas bills. Boilers available now are even more efficient so I guess the payback will be eben quicker
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
lol ya and your new junk will live maybe 10 to 15 years if your lucky .. your stuck on stupid
@ckm-mkc
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenlavimoniere Well, the math works out well - if it pays for itself in 18 months but last 10 years, then you are basically saving 8 years of fuel costs running the old boiler - win, win all around.... Hell, even if it only lasted 5 years, you'd still come out ahead.
@petersmart1999
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenlavimoniere I get the question all the time about high efficient,and i have derived a formula to show people the differences in equipment.BTUs are BTUs whether they are from a toaster or a boiler. The amount of Btus needed did not change ,so high eff or not you still need the same Btus,so what they dont realize is they will save a percentage of a percentage! So if you go 85% to 95% that is 10%,so now you saved 10% of a $100 gas bill,thats $10 ,or whatever it may be,heating season is 5.5 months long so they really saved $55 for the season! Everyone wants to go high efficient,spend all kinds of money ob a fancy boiler,but i wont do them unless they first spend 30k on windows and another 20k on insulation,so they have now spent more than they will ever recover!
@kenthomas4668
2 жыл бұрын
No it didn't pay for itself in 18 months, c'mon! Where do you live the Artic circle!
@stifflers69mom1
Жыл бұрын
No way in hell did it pay for itself in 18 months…..that doesn’t even make cents….lol
The flame was orange. Maybe because the soot and dust in the burners had been disturbed? Blue flame is clean burning. I'm surprised that appliance passed the CO test.
@BeezyKing99
2 жыл бұрын
Dirty air will make any flame burn orange or being too rich (too much gas) can do that just as well
@petersmart1999
2 жыл бұрын
@@BeezyKing99 cold boiler will also be orange,sections start to condense when it passes dew point!
Good thing he called ya Steve, nice job
Hey Steve, you are 100% right about the Teflon tape. Worked for the gas co in new Jersey for 35 years, we were taught never use Teflon on gas. Like you said could get stuck in the has valve. Also maybe the homeowner turned back on the gas? I red tagged stuff and they would turn it back on soon as I left... Love your videos..
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
thanks man a fellow worker out in the field .
@kevinfinnerty3754
2 жыл бұрын
PSE&G or SJG?
I installed my own propane forced air furnace when I moved with 3/4 in black pipe (with dope only) then grounded all the pipe and tanks ... retired builder/carpenter ... when my propane guy (the boss) came to inspect it he looked at me and said, hey you want a job as an installer ? ... he was impressed ... but I told him I'd worked with some of the best HVAC guys in the business for 25 years retrofitting old historical houses and they taught me well ... new dedicated electric, everything in conduit and clamped and tied down to code plus ... new chimney liner ... he was also impressed when he saw my manometer on my bench ... and saw my plugs in the supply/return ducts used to balance the system ... and check the gas valve pressure ... he looked at my numbers and said he didn't need to run a combustion check on an 80% with a blower and new liner, but checked it anyway ... CO was right on the money ... I chose a 80,000 btu Goodman unit for price/reliability ... to be honest, I'd rather replace the whole unit at that price than be nickle's and dime'd servicing an old unit ... I service my own stuff and the Goodman has worked flawlessly for 7 seasons with only annual cleaning ... I use MERV 4 max filters with a spray charger and change the filters monthly, cheap insurance when you have big, hairy dogs ... I have the cheap green pre-filters on the returns in the living areas ....
@mrbachittarsingh9243
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the guy tugged himself off in the van afterward as well
There should also be ground wire connected to steel pipe running to end of the flex. Reason so flex is not the main grounding point. Pin leaks have been found without grounding wires. Here in California they insulated the meter from being a ground source because it was causing pin leaks in their lines in the ground.
@sieulieu3586
2 жыл бұрын
Thought electric speed up the corrosion? The reason people ground/bond electric to gas line/water line because they goes to ground. With thicker metal, it more conduct for electric to travel, instead of damage other stuffs. So yes the thinner metal on the flex without divert that current to goes somewhere else will get damage quick. Reason gas company Insulated their meter is to avoid their PROPERTIES to get damage. Everything in the house is the homeowners properties. Same goes to those flex lines hanging in the video. Why would a company put their money into people house. If they do, the gas bill shouldn't be low.
@davidp8563
2 жыл бұрын
According to the NEC,....the sheath on AC cable suffices as the ground because there is a bonding strip inside to provide continuous bonding to the jacket. If using 1/2" flex....the conduit suffices as the ground for up to 6". Your state's codes may be more stringent than the NEC.
@mostlikelywedoitservices6926
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidp8563 The flex gas line needs the grounding cable from solid pipe to solid pipe. Flex gas pipe should not be the travel conductor.
@davidp8563
2 жыл бұрын
@@mostlikelywedoitservices6926 I don't believe I saw what you are commenting on. What time stamp please.Where do you see flex gas pipe in the video? Presumably the steel gas pipe, up, upstream from your observed flex, is bonded to earth ground. The boiler is bonded to earth ground via the electrical raceway. So ....what is the problem? You want a bonding jumper on the gas pipe to bridge the flex?? That is not the service tech's responsibility. The incompetent plumber should have called an electrician. Electricians see this all the time when plastic is used to rep[lace steel or copper on drains, water and gas. Most plumbers are not aware of this grounding concern and I wouldn't expect a HVAC tech to catch it either.
@mostlikelywedoitservices6926
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidp8563 34.41 It is knowledge that if you don't know you should know. Then notes can be made and customer can know the dangers.
No Bubbles no troubles. lol. Thanks Steve. JR
You should consider a small shop vac. No way I'm sweeping up/breathing ultra fine particles like that inside a sharp metal case. I use a DeWalt which can use a battery or 120V. Doubles as a seat too so you're not kneeling on concrete.
@scottworkman7170
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that burner rust/ash is nasty stuff to breath. And while ur at it, lightly screw on a 1/2" threaded cap over the manifold gas inlet so no dust or debris can possibly drop into the manifold.
rep for robert shaw once told me you move an old thermocouple and you better replace it because it will now fail. did this type repair s since 1973.
Awesome video Steve happy holidays to you and your family
Without looking at your site, I could tell from your accent that you are east of 95. Cool. Thanks for the content.
At 12:20, did he say "Smurf jizz?" 😂😂😂😂😂😂bwahahahaha!! Had to tell hubby the new term LMFAO
Yep.....the Grinch was playing in that one brother Lol.Great job Steve you are very patient and your work shows it.see you on the next one man
is that pilot adjusting screw have ten inch thread on it..
Steve, I’m new to your channel and real enjoy it and subscribed. I started off watching the stuff on your John Deere snow thrower. I have a John Deere gx345. I have all attachments except the tiller. Also, I enjoy the hell out of your service calls. I work for a Natural Gas Utility in Western Mass. I found interesting to see the other side of a red tagged appliance situation. And I wondered why that Gasman didn’t turn off the gas valve. Maybe he did. It doesn’t take much brains for a slumlord or tenant to turn the gas back on. We are required to disconnect the piping at the union and cap or plug it when we red tag. A warning tag can stay connected. That was sloppy work with the CSST tubing. It should be supported every six feet. (It depends on the tubing size.) (Same with black iron pipe.) Hope he plans to come back and add support before the tenant or owner thinks it’s there for hanging things. I’ve seen it all. Anyway, I must compliment you on your skill and thorough work. I have no doubt it gave you the good reputation that you have earned!
Another good video steve .. keep em coming.
Must've been the last job of the day for the Gas guy. Forgetting to shut off the gas with a leaking valve is negligence.
That was a real good one!! Packed with Lavi truisms. I really liked how u tested the co!!
for a 3 storey small apartment building. whats the best way to heat each or both apartments?
Great work Steve. I noticed there was no safety rollout switch on the burner access panel. Must be an old unit for sure. Merry Christmas to you and your family in advance.
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
thanks kevin happy holidays to you also
You are darn right about the door.
Funny to hear abou the lighting strikes on that gas line. The home I live in just about burnt due to that very piping!
Turn the gas valve on and off a half dozen times and it gets the grease moving around barrel and no leak. Gasman probably did that, reason for leaving on , and red tagged to CHA. He was probably still there when you were called.
If the gas company tech red-tagged the solenoid valve for leaking gas but left the main valve open, do you really think he'd have used more hangers?
I LOVE the extension idea...I going to have to steal that one lol...
Steve, Merry Christmas and Happy new year from Deep River Ct!
Columbia gas sucked my boiler had a fire 2 years ago. I WENT THROUGH HELL. THEY LOADED LINE WITH HIGH PRESSURE. i switched to propane. The gas company that switched to mrw lines of high pressure later did not install gate valves in sidewalk after new instalations in whole streets. Unotherwords next house fire in winter they have to shut down gas on whole street.
I been watching you for years on question Hot water recirculate old work When the valve closes sending hot water and the pump is scheduled to stay on and none is home to open the hot tap what happens to the pressure ass the pump keeps running
You have the patience of a saint to work in some squalid conditions.
@pootthatbak2578
2 жыл бұрын
Steve knows every spider species and type of rodent in the state. Lol
15 years of residential and 20 of industrial and I have never red tagged a gas boiler. Maybe did more work or used parts that exceeded the value of the unit but I bought them time. Hot air units on the other hand I have no qualms about disabling a unit with a cracked heat exchanger.
Good job there Steve.
Someone should red tag those flippin’ half-assed gas lines they put in!
@philipread7741
2 жыл бұрын
Those half assed gas lines, as you call them, look like corrugated stainless steel tube. In the UK we have a few versions available from different manufacturers, one of them is a US company ( Omegaflex (Tracpipe)). The ones used in the UK are sheathed in yellow plastic. They were invented in the 1970s for use in seismic areas like California and Japan, Rigid steel pipe would not be a satisfactory solution when the building is moving about, only to be bought to the ground by a fire or gas explosion. The gas line installation with no pipe support was inexcusable, the contractor should be given a good kicking for this piss poor work.
@mjg263
2 жыл бұрын
@@philipread7741 Yes, the lack of support and also the very poor routing (they will have to be disconnected in order to be properly routed behind the existing plumbing and then properly supported). The lines themselves we are used to seeing here and yes they are a good solution when rigid black pipe is not suitable.
"Put a little Smurf Jism in there..."... I'm dying. Lol
Steven, the black covering over the flex pipe should have yellow markings on it to i.d. gas, shouldn't it?
In Massachusetts, you dont need a new yellow handle ball shutoff valve and the flexi corrugated connecter on gas lines? Thats code in California for furnaces, stoves, dryers, water heaters...
'a little smurf jizem" Lol. Steve one funny tech..
Daddy.."yes dear?" Whats smurf gissum? "Oh honey, thats a complicated question" " lets just say, its what short plumbers use to make babies"
I got my coffee cup and sweatshirt but it's running in the upper 90's here. it's good merch,
Good job Steve.
“Are you listening to me? Or am I talking on deaf ears?” 😂
Most of what I read the CO should be below 100 PPM but equipment shut down below 400 ppm "Air Free". What standard did you find 50 ppm the limit?
Someone made sure they had combustion air for that boiler after closing up that basement. Nice!
That stack temp was way up there for a Weil McLain boiler.
@philipread7741
2 жыл бұрын
With exhaust gas temperatures over 600 degrees Fahrenheit, or about 315 degrees centigrade, a good chunk of the heat is going straight up the chimney. You have got to ask why? All that muck on the burners has fallen from the heat exchanger above. I would clean the heat exchanger with a purpose made velcro brush. The flue temperatures would be a lot lower after a good clean. Better still, scrap that inefficient heap of junk and fit a decent condensing boiler and save on the gas bill. In the UK we would look for a CO/CO2 ratio of less than 0.004, most appliances in good order are a lot lower, a figure our combustion gas analysers indicate on the display. I would not get hung up for 48PPM CO. Maybe that is what is used in MA. The flame on the burner looked a bit yellow, but the burners had been disturbed and the muck was being blown out and causing the incandescent flame. Turning down the gas pressure to reduce the CO? I would be checking the inlet gas pressure to the appliance (Whatever the local standards are for this) In the UK about 20mbar (8 inches water) and the burner pressure range rated as per the spec plate. Also gas rate from the gas meter ( Timed period for a known volume of gas to pass), from that calculate the gas rate ( Power input). We have mobile apps to do this.
@89dhvac
2 жыл бұрын
@@philipread7741 that “inefficient junk” is a lot more reliable than one of the fancy new condensing boilers. What do you mean by a CO/Co2 ratio? What kind of numbers are you looking for? I like to see CO air free as low as possible. Anything over 100 ppm and I recommend investigating the cause. At 400 ppm I shut gas off. For Co2, I’m looking for 6.5-8%.
Are heat pumps common in your area? I’m a sparky so the most HVAC we do other than industrial was heat pumps, the small wall mounted ones, it gets down to about -10° where I live so it’s not too cold for heat pumps there’s no pipeline gas so propane common for water heating, the main heat sorce is firewood though, then heatpumps, Diesel, coal and propane ect but no natural gas
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
i few heat pumps mostly is summer homes .with backup heat strips .diffently not the best was to heat a home up north . they might be ok as a backup . but not main source of heat
@Footrotflats251
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenlavimoniere no I wouldent want to have one as my main sorce, I have a pot belly coal burner for that power is expensive here too, like 30c/KWh 😳
Hello from the great state of Michigan
Ball valve for gas shut off? Good video
Your truck sounds like its about to disintegrate 😀
I use pipe dope a lot , once in a while I use the blue gorilla tape.
Easy fix for Steve
just listening to your jargon, crakes me up!
Steve my respects for u , you are the really one master
Smurf jism.... I always get a laugh from your videos! Thanks for that.
Give her the ol gundy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i had the gas co out in july for a leak, he isolated the leak and cut off. then verified the leak stopped. got to have the sniffer. i barked about the smell to every person that entered the house, nobody smelled it but me and the sniffer. spray all you want blowing bubbles dont replace the sniffer 100%
Question ? Not sure what to do. We made a conversation from oil to gas 12 yrs ago. But , the plumber who did never got the permit. I would like to legalize what can I do in westchester NY
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
call a local heating man and ask him his advice .
Bravo !! A true pro
Didn't have to use to much gundy on that job ;-) nice work!
great videos
Hey Steve, do you have to wait for a certain amount of time for the dope to set up before turning the gas on?
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
no its basically a lubricant / but does seal and fill in gaps at the same time
@scottworkman7170
2 жыл бұрын
I concur with Steve. Brush-on pipe sealant acts as a lube during assy then sets up after time to deter movement of the fitting.
@newenglandpats59
2 жыл бұрын
The kind we use has Teflon in it. On higher pressure then inches, we use tape and dope.
I don’t know if the manifold is so important, you can still have a high CO reading. I prefer to check with combustion test on that old stuff.
@drodriguez394
2 жыл бұрын
If you have high co… it’s probably dirty. Soot and combustion deposits blocking the flutes
@daveoswald5375
2 жыл бұрын
@@drodriguez394 Higher CO could be caused by a cold boiler. Remember this started out as a no heat call. A warm or hot boiler will give you a lower CO reading, all things being equal.
@scottworkman7170
2 жыл бұрын
Right. The nominal nat gas manifold press is 3.5" +/- 0.3" on many furnaces. 3.5" is the supposed factory setting on a new valves. I just installed a new valve recently and found the manifold press to be 3.7". By conducting a combustion analysis, I found I could not leave it that way and ended up having to reduce the MP.
2 thumbs up. Gas co In my state would have Completley disconnected Unit.
That is quite a valve replacement.
Hey Steve great as always? Question- Is it against code to use that flex tape on the gas line and you must use that pipe dope or putty?
@johnhubbard6262
2 жыл бұрын
Tape for Plumbing let alone gas work is asking for a problem, it shrinks and causes water leaks, and on gas, the white is not rated for it, the yellow is like he mentioned, but you're still asking for trouble. The blue dope he used is my favorite, old school Green works just a little bit better but it ruins any clothes it touches. I only use it on the city side where you have real pressure.
The Smurf jizz comment had me rolling!
"Surf Gisim"...Lol Steve your a killer!
The market is full of contractors with their name on the trucks. You are the real deal Steve.
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
yes i am a big wheel with no spokes ...
Steven lavimonier I like your utube videos
what brand oil bottle is that ?that bottle looks familiar
Evening from the U.K. 10pm here.
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
hello from over the pond
I got pipe dope in the pipe, it wen't into the gas valve & messed up the flexible valve component. Made it keak gas.
I'm going to ask the guy at home depot for smurf jism now. Thats some funny stuff.
When your good, your busy Steve. /phone ring off the hook.
What is that crust caused by?
We are listening
Evening, Steve!
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
good evening
Where did you take your classes for gas and oil burners? In from the New Bedford area.
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
over the years i have taken a ton of classes ... best one was the school of hard nocks learn the hard way as you go ..
Love your customer service 😂 lol
can having the panel on/off really make a big difference when doing a combustion analysis?
@stevenlavimoniere
2 жыл бұрын
yes it does a bit
@pootthatbak2578
2 жыл бұрын
Steve showed that..it went up 3 points after the cover went on
@scottworkman7170
2 жыл бұрын
Putting the cover on causes the combustion air to preheat more than if left off due to the flame-radiant heating of the cover metal. This will affect the analysis a bit bcuz preheated air has a slightly lower density.