I’m so glad Theo is back

@Valera_Scotland

6 ай бұрын

I miss Harris though

@PortWaterDogs4Eva

6 ай бұрын

Why can’t Theo & Harris ever get together, in the same room? Too much “Big Brain” energy? 🤣🤣🤣

@moneymikz

6 ай бұрын

I thought that was Harris??

@waterfordrs22

6 ай бұрын

He never left.

@tab3Gator

6 ай бұрын

We both today!

Has Christian & Michael (or friends) ever ranked Vintage Brands ? Have they ever done a video about “Vintage Brands people don’t know about”? I am always trying to learn about Older, maybe discontinued brands to be on the look out for. Not the “big brands”, that everyone knows. What about other Vintage watches / brands the average Rolex/Omega owner doesn’t know about? I am always trying to learn. 👏👏👏

Really glad to see Sinn mentioned. Agreed that their website is a terrible experience but the brand is high value for their position. I've found it a bit frustrating that Sinn seems to get little to no recognition or screen time with popular watch youtubers. They may not have the best presence or marketable achievements but they have remarkably hard wearing watches for real utility purposes while executing great technical innovations to get their product there. I would love to see more content from your team regarding Sinn in the future.

@Judah.Rosenthal

6 ай бұрын

So weird that their site is terrible (it is) because their instagram page is good.

@songoku-jx3cb

6 ай бұрын

German brands in general are underrated . Sinn , damasko . Hanhart , laco , muhle , tutima etc etc . Everyone seems to only care about lange and nomos .

@Joe-yi8xj

6 ай бұрын

Shhhhh

Can we have your ranking of Christian's sweaters next please?

@BobbyDazzler888

6 ай бұрын

All in the do not buy category

So CW that released 2 game breaking watches for fraction of the price other brands would make them and they are A, but a brand like GC that released 2 watches that are above 35k and look like a strange looking cartier gets S

I love the Gerald Charles Maestro Squelette. The movement and the finish are just fantastic.

Always a delight with Christian and Michael 👍

Glashutte Original PanoReserve in rose gold - my grail watch, along with the Lange Model 1815 in rose gold.

Welcome back Michael!

Great episode. Really enjoyed this one.

The Blancpain Air Command is such an underrated watch and its under 50mm lug to lug. If anyone wants to purchase a BP but has issues about their sizes (who doesn't?) then I'd recommend checking that watch out over the FF. I think it's more interesting anyway.

I just thought the opposite a few days ago: I found it strange that Suisse watchmakers don't use beautiful local languages on their luxury items. French and Italian in my opinion look/sound more classy. I see some German now and then, but thats primarily on German watches I believe. 3 (or 4 if you include Romansh) local languages and they resort to, in my (Dutch) opinion, the boring English...

@borassictime918

6 ай бұрын

Kletskoek (in my English opinion) 😉😆. Using French just sounds pretentious, as in; “Pretentious, moi ?!” (see Fawlty Towers) and would like as not be just another excuse to push SRPs to even more ridiculous highs, plus predictable and boring…unless you’re French or Quebecois where obliterating English is a national religion. 😂 But honestly, although I can speak some French and Italian, it would undoubtedly be the least important aspect of any watch design to me. Het maakt niks uit, you might say. In fact for me as a rule the less text on the dial, the better.

@Voltanaut

6 ай бұрын

English is just the most practical language. Most people speak it these days, especially people looking for expensive watches. You also run the risk of being pretentious/thinking you're better than other brands by not using English. That being said, my fave brand Lange uses lots of German on their dials, so I'm down for more foreign languages being on dials, but it's a tough sell.

@h.s.7620

6 ай бұрын

@@Voltanaut Yeah but practical doesnt seem to be the main point of expensive watches. Otherwise quartz with a 24hour system wins it everytime. I think they get away without being looking pretentious because, depending on which region they are located, its their own language. You could argue by doing it in a larger language, thats pretentious, because you dont want to look small.

@marker20

6 ай бұрын

Yea, interesting. I get why brands use English mostly, and that's because it broadens the marketability of the watch to more countries. But I also agree with you in that it would be nice to see some French or Italian (Panerai does include some Italian and my 10 year old Navitimer uses French on the caseback) on more watches. It doesn't need to be every watch a brand makes, but maybe once in a while throw on a "Fab. Suisse" instead of the "Swiss Made" for variety's sake.

Nomos is S for having in house movements unlike Sinn, also having sizes from 35mm to 42mm to fit everyone

great to have Harris back

Does anyone have a link to the small manual-wind version of the Tiffany East West that Michael was talking about at 12:50? I see men's size 3-hand automatics and women's "mini" 2-hand quartz models.

Love the Omega ranking for 2023! ⌚👍

Forget skeleton watches. I like to be able to tell the time when I look at a watch. Kinda funny that way.

Can't disagree about Breguet. They are my favorite brand. Anything with real guichet (sic) and enamel will win my heart, and their cases are something special, but it's a style that just isn't in fashion right now. Don't know if/when it ever will be again, but at least I can enjoy them...and actually afford them, on the used market because of it!

Perhaps you missed it. Journe released two watches in 2023 - 1) the incredible popular impossible to get Journe Elegante Titalyt now with a black dial. 2) The impossible to buy without an extensive purchase history, production FFC (Francis Ford Coppola) The first FFC was a piece unique Only Watch from 2022. Please move FPJ to the top of the list where they belong. 🤩

I'm so glad you re-did CW probably will make their own movement soon and they'll still keep prices down, and you'll still be able to pre-order and get your time piece on time 😂. Not working for them...😅

Where did & go? Bring him back

glad to see these two SICKOS back together for another video ranking stuff which are rarely worn even by owners

I'd like to hear a deeper dive into Breguet. I would think that the classique and traditions lines would be right up Christian's ally (size can be an issue, I guess). This year they released a stunning minute repeater with a dark enamel dial (a bit big I guess).I realize that there's something missing - the watches really lose value and whoever they market their watches too, I don't ever come across them...

Yay Mike’s back I will re subscribe

Love Nomos (the lambda in black and gold is honestly a grail piece for me), but I don't get the studio underdog hype at all. Looks like something you'd buy from the gift shop as you're leaving an art museum, or like if IKEA started a watch brand.

@brucesuitt993

6 ай бұрын

Totally agree. Their watermelon watch looks like an utter mess to me.

Period End: Take a drink

I hope GS stays unappreciated until I saved enough money to afford one.

"I wish they did more with the movie" 😂

You guys are too nice and nostalgic

“The khaki field died at war so this could live…” 😂 such a great bar right there 🔥

We love Michael!!!🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

sinn in a-tier is a massive w

Christopher Ward needs to spend this year delivering watches. :)

The Parmigiani minute rattrapante is such an S tier watch though. Such a classy, elegant, and usable complication

@craiganczelowitz7225

6 ай бұрын

elegant with a virtually useless complication

@HMuny55

5 ай бұрын

S tier when ranking hideous watches

Studios field was a phenomenonally underrated release

Let’s see if they missed Kudoke, Holthinrichs, Laventure, Ophion, Lederer, Haldimann, Parmigiani, Formex, ZRC, Serica, Gronefeld, Zeitwinkel, Naoya Hida, Weiss, Horage, or Minase…😏

I can’t believe you didn’t bring back everyone’s favorite watch brand, Raymond Weil.

!!!THE PERFECT OPENING !!!!

I have being eyeing a Nomos for a while. Let’s see if 2024 is year when I get it.

The problem with GS is too many of them! I dont know what they represent other than special and limited editions. Even then I have to know what a lake in nowhere Japan looks like to identify the model.

Uncool guys ... UN-cool, what you said about Breguet. I don't care about how they did this past year ... They've been around since the mid 18th century ... They don't need to update their collection every single year. Their pieces are testaments of high horology; and I don't think that's even debatable at this point. Other than that, loved the video. Keep'em coming, guys!

@markhammerschmidt5315

6 ай бұрын

Could not agree more. Hyeks revival of Breguet and their use of traditional watchmaking such as guilloche was a masterstroke and is still very much a jewel in the Swatch Groups crown.

I dont understand, why would you need to buy a daytona to scratch the tonga itch? They're so different?? What does sinn have to do with a speedmaster?

If H Moser & AP had a illegitimate child who was adopted and brought up by Oris , that kid would be Christopher ward

My wife and I walked into an AD and saw Trilobe there for the first time and I asked the lady at the counter how does that even work? Both our reactions to the watch spinning happened simultaneously... and we were like... "wow!". They are now a grail watch for me.

The back and forth with this format of trying to read Michael’s mind worked very well. Game show from the Eighties. Good job and carry on.

Guys woah hold up, is no one gonna call out the hilarious 'did we actually go to the moon' joke early in the episode? "When"!

Now this is a great vid! Not that the part 1 was bad (great , of course), but this is far more interesting discussion and even exposed to a couple new brands! I WANT a Tiffany Co East West!

What? This video was made before Christmas? .... ok.

charcuterie (first)

31:58 😂

All these names in english are so difficult to pronounce, they should use French 😏 (Yes French here and awaiting Christian with torch and pitchfork)

How about the "story" of Blancpain? Poised to pop? Come on!

This was not re-ranking your favourite brands of 2023-but it was genius.

Michael is the guy for the job

Yay theo

CW and others like it are what have made me, umm, 'struggle', to understand the pricing of the likes of Longines, Baume et Mercier, Oris, etc. The only thing I can figure is they are hoping the name and past glories will cause people to pay the prices.

@marker20

6 ай бұрын

I think you're quoting the wrong brands. Longines, Baume et Mercier, Oris, etc. are bargains compared to Rolex, Omega, Blancpain, etc. Everything is relative, but the value you find in the middle to lower tier brands or "entry level luxury" brands is phenomenal IMO.

Hell yeah! The real Theo & Harris!

Names in different languages, proceeds to say this is the Maestro eight point O square root, did I get it right?

Someone explain the hype in Gerald Charles? they came with most generic aliexpress looking design for crazy amount of money. They keep advertising it it seems it turn out great? Basically you can sell bottom shelf watches if you advertise hard enough. They design is generic, finishing is poor. How they justife the price and how they different from any other aliexpress brand?

@user-bn6bc4kf4g

6 ай бұрын

First of all it‘s designed by Gerald Genta. Is it polarizing? Sure. - but also unique. If you haven‘t seen it in the metal, you should go try it. The touch and feel is suprisingly good. Marketing does play an important role in building a brand. Thats why some people pay thousands of Euros for a handbag or a pair of shoes. GC does a brilliant Job in marketing their product. Especially the Maestro Squelette has a place in my heart as a watchlover.

@carlosbcn2020

6 ай бұрын

I suspect this video is paid by CG

@SoftPastels

6 ай бұрын

@@user-bn6bc4kf4g Ive seen videos of it - quality is not there you can see in pictures or videos. Second its not designed by him it just inspired by it - its not unique at all have uniqueness level of dropshipping watch.

You pronounced Une Folle Journée like you said FP Journe, and that’s fine. I’m French, I don’t expect the whole world to be able to pronounce my language perfectly. Also: The exaggerated laughs and facial expressions are Japanese TV level (I’m joking, I mean no disrespect).

@jw.2507

6 ай бұрын

I am French, too. And I find it offensive that they don't even bother to try to pronounce it correctly when this is literally a watch channel dedicated to watches.

Todat's Breguet moves slowly and deliberately. They launched the new versions of Type 20 and Type XX with all new movements containing new mechanisms within that they filed patents on. Underneath their traditional looks, Breguet is developing new modern calibres. Easy to overlook and downplay since Breguet's marketing is underwhelming.

@MaestroDeca

6 ай бұрын

Wow, this is news to me (modern calibers). What a shame that it’s not being marketed.

@siongheeleong8078

6 ай бұрын

@@MaestroDeca Read up on Breguet's new caliber 728 created for their new Type 20 and Type XX.

Is it me ..or does Michael actually possess some mannerisms of the great Stan Laurel ?? !

"Love to give that to a girl I'm sleeping with." + 3 minutes - "Love to see my Mom wearing it." Okay Theo, whatever you say....

21:08 It may not be the “same” but there sure as hell aint no 15-20k difference and anybody trying to convince you there is, is just salty you got an insanely beautiful watch for an actually reasonable (within the watch world) price.

so glad Christian is dating my grandma again.

Still missed H Moser!

@BobbyDazzler888

6 ай бұрын

Moser doesn’t like bragging

Great content. Love the one-liners. In 2024 what else does CW need to do to hit “S” given their P4P quality/value and Glashütte Original to be “A” given their diverse range (senator, Sea Q, Panomatic Lunar & Inverse, 70s chrono, 60s etc)? In contrast, is Nomos, innovative and great value as they are, a one trick pony (albeit a multi coloured /sized one)?

Theo’s nose-rubbing is Charlie Sheen level…

Grand Seiko identifying every watch by a model number is more annoying than being in French.

Hamilton, Marathon, Ball...

Where's Sam? Who the heck is this new guy with the big hair?

Brellum where?

I think Grand Seiko had a dud of a few years, but came out swinging at the end with finally some new good looking hands.

@Horizontalvertigo

6 ай бұрын

The Kodo constant force tourbillon not to your taste?

@TheRacerRich

6 ай бұрын

@@Horizontalvertigo It is not. I wouldn't say no to a SBGZ009 though.

@Horizontalvertigo

6 ай бұрын

@@TheRacerRich it isn't really to mine either, but I still think it was a pretty solid accomplishment to shove that mechanism into an actually wearable case. But yeah, give me basically anything else in the catalogue first

Stop saying Glashütte Original is a rip-off of Lange...that's just not true! Lange and Glashütte are both the legal owners of the Panomatic design...

Jesus, guys it's just French. Nuit... Omg. "Un fole jorn". It goes to show why Rolex is successful. It brought luxury to simple folk.

@SuLu_B

Ай бұрын

Pretnetious much LMAO

Breguet type XX is incredible. Eff the swatch group

So the community really bullied you guys to remake the list 😂😭I was totally fine with the other one but hey a new video is perfectly fine for me

You put Parmigiani below Gerald Charles even though Voucher makes their movements?

Why are these so addicting. Even non watch people could watch these videos for hours. Im about to join the patreon. I cant stop "watching"

Journe - D done absolutely nothing, whose controversy with the CEO.

Blankpain has placed themselves at a disadvantage priced at twice the buying market.

lol loved that cold open

I hope Czapek makes the list

Do a third one please

Not a fan of your Gerald Charles watch!

Had a terrible experience buying from CW, just saying. The watches are nice but the QC and CS are lacking.

Still in the intro portion, I better see Sinn in S tier

27:03 why is it that we're excited/impressed with titanium in 2024? Citizen and Seiko have literally been cranking out watches made of Ti for some 30 years now. It's weird.

Christian where do you buy your crewnecks man

For me Omega is sliding down the ranks every year 😢

UNIMATIC OVER SEIKO AINTNOWAY UNIMATIC OVER SEIKO AINTNOWAY UNIMATIC OVER SEIKO AINTNOWAY UNIMATIC OVER SEIKO AINTNOWAY UNIMATIC OVER SEIKO AINTNOWAY UNIMATIC OVER SEIKO AINTNOWAY UNIMATIC OVER SEIKO AINTNOWAY

N O M O S properly ranked. Thank you, Theo…..or umm….Harris?🤔

this ranking is simply absurd. i do not understand it frankly anyway no big deal . God bless for 2024

The problem with Grand Seiko is with their logo. The "GS" and "Grand Seiko" fonts are different and clash. Either use the "GS" logo or use the "Grand Seiko" text on the dial but not both. Furthermore, use the same font! Ugh, it's so tacky.

Still no Moser & Cie!

Missing Habring :(

I don't think there was enough Sam in this video. There, I said it.

Dude are you getting paid by Sinn or are you lacking knowledge. How can you say lamania based Speedmaster Professional is same as Sinn. Do you know lamania movement also used by Patek, Vacheron, Roger Dubuis... Best brands, get informed!

@JasonFerguson17t

6 ай бұрын

Why is the lamania movement so special?

@josephrangelescamilla5620

6 ай бұрын

@JasonFerguson17t Patek uses it, Vacheron..., Roger Dubui among other top brands use same Lamania some decorated all over hence price.

Okay, I want "shhhockingly" canonized the way you jokingly recall "sheer blackkkness", pronto.

FORTIS for the next Round

@datboytalkinrungotellem

6 ай бұрын

b. great watches, orig design, good history, overpriced as all get out nowadays