I respect your comparison between jumping through hoops and giving the true fans their childlike moment of excitement. Happened to me and it was genuinely appreciated. I'm in the DC area and work a basic, one-of-a-million type of job. There's no way I could be a high roller compared to the top 8 wealthiest counties in the country. I don't mind waiting. I wanted a Polar Explorer II in 2-3 years to celebrate when I would be coming off of cancer monitoring. Got on the list at Liljenquist & Beckstead with no purchase history. I would come in an talk watches with the sales associate every few months when I happened to be in the area. Got the call unexpectedly after only 6 months. Was a few days before my 40th birthday. Hadn't even thought about it at the time, but I remembered putting my birth date on their list request for the Rolex. I'm confident that they appreciated my genuine enthusiasm and offered me an opportunity commemorate my 40th, quite a bit sooner than my original plans. It was a big moment and completely unexpected! Challenge now is I still need something to celebrate coming off cancer monitoring in 18-24 months. Going to have to figure that one out!

@H_tudor

Жыл бұрын

Not to offend anyone but isn’t there a color associated with cancer help ? I remember something in that regard . If there is one you could try and find a watch with that color dial or something like that

@dBsdecibels

Жыл бұрын

@@H_tudor you’re correct! There are a few colors, based on the kind of cancer it is. Pink, for example, is breast cancer. Not all cancers have them. I’ll need to look it up. A good idea! It never occurred to me! Thank you!

@johnfrei9057

Жыл бұрын

Good for you and obviously coming off cancer monitoring is much more valuable than that Rolex. Now you’re getting both. You’re on a roll!

@H_tudor

Жыл бұрын

@@dBsdecibels no problemo always down to help a fellow watch guy out with justifying a purchase ;)

@dBsdecibels

Жыл бұрын

@@johnfrei9057 Thank you! Still have a couple years yet on the cancer thing, but I'm not worried. I have good odds! The Rolex was harder odds, lol!

I’m so far past giving a shit about Rolex now that I have no desire. I had the same vision as so many people when I was younger. “I want a gold Rolex” I now have a Grand Seiko, JLC, and Oris. Next is going to either be Breitling Datora or Cartier Santos. I’d legit rather get a Seiko panda than a Daytona now

@whereRbearsTeeth

Жыл бұрын

BS

@kpkost

Жыл бұрын

@@whereRbearsTeeth Tell me more about me pls

I bought several steel Rolex between 2006 and 2013. No waiting lists, always readily available, with good discounts if you payed in cash or by bank trasference. I would see a Daytona at the AD window and that same night see it on the wrist of a german tourist staying at the same hotel where I was spending my vacation. And they were as desired as today. The wait is not what harms the brand, it is the uncertainty of when are you going to get it or if you ever will. Like buying a car. You have to wait but you know for long. If the Audi dealer says he does not know when will the car be available, you buy another brand that gives you that information.

I think Rolex are going to 1/ focus more on precious metals and 2/ try to make the Cellini more relevant as a compete with Patek in the dress watch space (with the Calatrava), but also in complexity and finish. My wild card guess is tomorrow Rolex release a series of elegant Cellini dress watches….maybe including a perpetual calendar movement. Going beyond what Rolex have done to date (with annual calendar on the skydweller) and also recognising the sports watch market will shift a little more to dress watches over the next few years. Piaget. A fan. Own one. Hope they launch a heritage range going back to their roots Great video as always.

@dylanjacobson8411

Жыл бұрын

Smart. Best comment.

@Santi-kq8om

Жыл бұрын

Damn you weren’t off by much. Perhaps it’s not Cellini but same idea. Nice thought

@notenoughtime7274

Жыл бұрын

@@Santi-kq8om thank you! I forgot I wrote this actually. Funny reading back and turned out Perpetual was the rebranded name of the range

@raupenimmersatt6906

Жыл бұрын

They will most likely make an annual/ triple calendar with a moonphase like the Padellone used to be...I guess

@porscheoscar

Жыл бұрын

My AD, at an official Rolex only store, said verbatim "Rolex is moving Celini out of the stores. Online only"

I'm already kind of turned off by Rolex and the whole AD thing, so even if they get easier to buy, I don't know that I'm going to care.

@andrewbarnes5802

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. Told my wife I'd buy her a Rolex when my Dad's inheritance came through. Went into the AD, security guard on the door told us they didn't have any in the shop and there was a 3-year waiting list. Ended up buying one from a jewellors via Chrono24, excellent condition, 3k under the new price for a watch that's 5 years old. Screw the AD's & screw Rolex

I hope for the day when secondary Rolex is mostly below retail and I can walk into the dealers and make them get on my wait list

@ulmen24

Жыл бұрын

If that happens you’ll no longer want one.

@bngr_bngr

Жыл бұрын

Back in the day that’s how it was. Any Rolex was available even at a small AD.

@andrewbarnes5802

Жыл бұрын

Anything else from the AD's is just extortion isn't it? If you want a Rolex, you've got to show us some love by buying loads of other stuff you don't really want. Sounds like extortion, certainly smells like it. Who needs it?

@mcanqb

Ай бұрын

Now is a great time to buy

It's basic human nature that sometimes we "think" we want what we can't have. And once Rolex started selling for more than retail on the gray market years ago, it created the hysteria that we know today about Rolex. But, we all have to ask ourselves, would you still really want that same Rolex watch if it was readily available at retail anytime you wanted to buy it? Can you see yourself wearing and enjoying it? Or does it stay in the safe - waiting for the next increase in prices? I love Rolex (the physical watches) for their timeless beauty and quality. But at the same time, I think the hysteria surrounding the brand has done damage to the "image" of Rolex (on many different levels). It's great to see things trending down with gray market prices, but there are so many other great watch brands to actually enjoy wearing and that don't carry all the baggage.

Michael looking at his watch at 3:32 is golden

Rolex models are becoming more available even at present . The small family run ADS may still be very difficult but that’s because in relative terms they don’t get a lot of stock . The big boutiques things are certainly changing , I was in the boutique last week the girl I’ve dealt with for many years said people are turning pieces down when called . No surprise, when the grey market was out of control everyone wanted Rolex as it was essentially free money . Not a whole lot trading massively over list now and future is uncertain so people are often disinterested. As availability increases further there will be a further drop in interest . The hysteria of the last five years is definitely dying.

@bngr_bngr

Жыл бұрын

The interest of flippers will die down. People that want to own Rolex watches will get them sooner with out being ripped off.

@randokuruza

Жыл бұрын

Name a sports model trading below RRP

@Tonysoprano497

Жыл бұрын

@@randokuruza Most models are trading dealer to dealer list . Apart from a few models you will be lucky to be offered list from grey dealers . The writing is on the look at the drops within the last 6 or 7 months . Acid test is contact a grey dealer and offer your watch for sale and see how much you are offered . No doubt the crazy days of people thinking modern Rolex is fast money are over . If people are silly enough to ignore the warnings they are sure to come down to reality with a massive and painful bump .

@richardf7223

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully the ADs will soon regret treating everyone like crap.

I really do not need to have a salesperson as a "friend". They are just some person that stands between me and the product I want. I'd rather have a robot there that doesn't try to influence me.

@brokenegg4714

Жыл бұрын

They are my only friends. I give them all my money.

Rolex has a list of serial numbers so knows where the grey market watches have come from yet they haven't stopped the grey market. They have actively helped it by 1) stopping regular people from buying the watch they want and forcing people to the grey market 2) make people buy models they don't want to get on a wait list for the watch they do so more watches will also end up on the grey market . As Rolex doesn't benefit from the grey market premiums, they should produce less watch models people don't want and more of the ones that are popular. Stopping grey markets this way Using this strategy to stop the grey market they could increase the retail price slightly, keeping the hype .

@letsgobrandon1719

Жыл бұрын

That’s what Ferrari does

If Rolex over produces their watches, I truly believe it's game over. People like what they can't get. Luxury is about exclusivity, not excess. Being greedy can quickly destroy a brand. I believe Rolex knows this. Smart brands such as Hermes and Chanel know this. Look at the birkin. Would the birkin be the birkin if you could walk in the boutique and buy them?? NO!!!!! They know how to play the supply and demand game.

@syncswim

Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why people still believe the claim from their marketing team that "we cannot keep up with unprecedented demand." Go to a dedicated Rolex boutique to see where they're really headed: Barely any watches on display and no sports models at all (because the entire world knows them by heart already, why bother showing them?) Very few watches inside the boutique itself, just rows of austere tables where you sit with a sales rep and THEY quiz YOU about who you are, what you do for a living, and, basically, why the hell you think you deserve a Rolex. This is the model all top-tier luxury is pursuing, because it works.

@simonthewatchguy6073

Жыл бұрын

​@@syncswim This comment is the best one I've seen on the topic. This is precisely the problem. The sales rep basically performs an assessment on you: 1) How much is this person going to spend in our store? including on non-Rolex items 2) Does this person look like they should be wearing a Rolex?. I've been on a waiting list for 12+ months and I'm assuming that means my AD don't think I'm the type of customer who "deserves" a Rolex. Of course, that forces me into the grey market, which is somewhere I don't want to really be. The worst thing about all of this, is that we're told Rolex don't like watch flippers apparently - yet sell to AD's who are clearly selling to known flippers. For me as a new customer, I don't have a Rolex to flip! But you wont sell to me, and will sell to someone else multiple times because they're a "known customer" but they're flipping the watch... That's before we mention AD's who remove stickers, sell to themselves so the watch can now be sold as "pre-owned" on grey for 2-4x MSSRP. It's a total joke. I love Rolex watches but getting hold of one is a very off-putting process and turning people to rivals such as Omega etc

Love these videos guys, you seem like such down to earth, knowledgeable and funny people. I would love to meet you both for a drink and to talk watches in NYC one day. Best wishes from London, England 🙌

This is so entertaining! The glasses guy is just hilarious, definitely one of my favorite comics, he is a natural 👍🏼😃

At 38:18 Christian asks how many people will want Rolex if they are more readily available? A better question maybe how many people have been turned way from their local AD to the point where they don't want to return for more abuse/insult to our intelligence? If I want a specific Rolex, and the AD would take my deposit and I could expect to take delivery within 6 to 12 months, then I would have no problem buying again from an AD. Note that I do not expect to buy a Daytona per se, but at least let me know with some certainty when I can get the Rolex I want to wear. If the AD can't do this then I will buy any brand but Rolex online. One more thing, Rolex could eliminate the AD's altogether and let me buy direct from Rolex online, like Tesla does today, and take delivery at a Rolex boutique or my local AD to get the watch sized. Let's be real, when is the last time a Rolex AD had to any "selling" to get you to buy a Rolex?

That Vacheron is stunning….

Your remark about Christian being a dyed-in-the-wool supporter of the republic makes a lot of sense, Michael. Worth saying that it's Oswald Mosley time if we were to pull that kind of knitwear stunt over here in the UK.

I completely understand the preferred client list from a business perspective. You can sell one watch and be done, or cultivate a mutually beneficial business relationship for frequent fliers.

I agree with Cristian. Last year I was offered a 2021 Rolex Air King from my local AD . I don't like the look of the Air King (very polarizing with those indices). I decided to turn it down even though I was going to break "my relationship" with my AD.

@Channel-io1di

Жыл бұрын

Turning down a watch you didn't even ask for won't break the relationship. I turned down a Starbucks, that I DID as for, and got the call for a Pepsi 5 weeks later.

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

Good why buy a piece u don't want/like?

11:57 Patisserie dial, that sounds delicious!

Apparently, they've already upped production by quite a bit and are in the process of getting even more production facilities up and running by, err, 2025? IIRC. Gotta say that I used to (partially) blame Rolex themselves for this whole affair - and I still think they (or at least the ADs) are partially to blame, but: When I look at the current offerings on Chrono24, sorted by production years, it seems pretty clear that there are a ton of current watches out there and that, if anything, supply seems to have gone up over the last five years or so. For example... number of Rolex Subs currently on offer: 2018: 178 2019: 225 2020: 405 2021: 484 2022: 887 2023: 416 (as of late March 2023, that is) This might not be super scientific, but I think that it's at least an indication as to numbers produced and put into the market. Weirdly enough, it's not that these things were actually super rare - so we're still having to pay ridiculous premiums for a mass-produced and (in theory) widely available product.

@sinesaii

Жыл бұрын

Rolex is supposedly producing more watches than ever. The problem is that so many people have become interested in luxury watches, and they only want a Rolex, Royal Oak or Nautilus.

Rolex are too smart to double production, the desire is the want.

Please do an episode on passing down watches/heirloom pieces.

44 minute video drops just before I start cooking dinner 😚

@BobbyDazzler888

Жыл бұрын

You cook? Good for you

@Adskie

Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyDazzler888 I don’t remember asking for validation but thank you I guess 🙂

The best way to tackle the grey market is to get rid of MSRP. Just list the watches as Market Price. Like when you go to a restaurant and order the fancy items. They list them as Market Price.

Michael - you will get the Palm dial DJ 36. Just continue to be patient (as you have been).

Talking about Piaget as an unsung hero compared to the Trinity? *ahem*… Jaeger would like a word

If u don't mind, will u guys please put the audio from your videos on your podcast channel? I don't want to miss any episode but can't watch KZread sometimes.

I know watch market eventually will drop and especially the hyped model will suffer greatly .... But I bought several despite knowing it will drop one day...and still keeping them...why? Because I love them and I have no intention to gain money by trading my watches. Even the watch price risen to 3x retail...i have no plan selling it. To me a watch is like my wife ..i want to have it by my side and I am not particularly happy about the idea * gaining money by selling at profit.

I would really like a 124200 in black. I don't care if its exclusive or not, I just like how well balanced it is as a watch (according to my taste)

Love your take on watches. Can you make a day date video? 😃

Doubling production in uncertain economy is risky.

"It's good to see ya, pal (click). Done"

Hello , Which brand did he mention at 13:07 ?

@GrahamKerr.RealEstate

5 ай бұрын

Corum

Let’s Goooooooo every day when you guys upload is a great day

Ooh I really don't think Rolex is going to increase production as much as that but I could be wrong... from a business point of view I can't see that working for them.

Not much will really change, increased supply won’t hit ADs for another couple years, then when the permanent factory comes online in 2029/2030 then these temporary locations will close. But here’s the thing, the market will be larger as more people decide to drop their names in the hat. So indeed double is not realistic with 1 new factory and I do believe they will finally be completely in house making sapphire crystals and all hands, creating this capability rather than devoting all bandwidth to higher production.

If the market cools - the wretched wait list will cool. The investment incentive will, as you suggest,, diminish .

If an AD makes you buy multiple watches to get to the one that you want...play the game sell the others and make the profit towards your top wanted watch.

Christian gets it. "Reverse engineering the best quality of life"

I just want a OP 41 Blue… best watch for me. Just need to keep saving…

@simonthewatchguy6073

Жыл бұрын

I tried the blue model on in person last week - it's better in person than on photos!

As a Rolex President owner, I was extremely disappointed in the trash from Rolex. Even Timex would have been ashamed of the emoji wheels!

Why are today’s Piaget models not good? I handled an Altiplano. It is an amazing watch. I would take that over any Rolex (save an old triple date moonphase).

Why do people keep predicting that Rolex wants to harm the grey market? The grey market ENHANCES the hype around Rolex. The long waitlists ENHANCE the hype around Rolex. Rolex is not trying to kill their golden geese - the production increases will still trail demand for Rolex watches. Rolexes will still trade for prices above RRP

@BobbyDazzler888

Жыл бұрын

People want what they cant get. Simple as that.

@strapped2time

Жыл бұрын

It isn’t about Rolex wanting to harm the grey market. It’s about meeting demand (pleasing customers) and putting the money in their pockets. They’re not trying to be Patek. They’re a massed produced watch. As long as they hold value, I’m sure Rolex is happy.

@Marc-ty5sz

Жыл бұрын

LOL, Rolex dont care about the grey market at all.

@strapped2time

Жыл бұрын

@@Marc-ty5sz they’re a business. Of course they do. The demand outweighs production. The grey market is a sign of the imbalance. That’s loss of sales and profits for them. Sure, the secondary asking prices look cool, but it’s does nothing for their pockets. Bringing more balance will keep people happy, keep secondary prices manageable and fatten their pockets as well.

@bngr_bngr

Жыл бұрын

I don’t want to buy a new Rolex from a flipper or grey market. If Rolex has more production that won’t change the demand for their watches. Definitely will hurt down market sellers. It’s sales Rolex will easily pick up.

Hold up hold up hold up… you guys are in Summit. I’m probably down the road from you guys. 🤣

Honestly can vouch for the London at Short Hills, theyve been treating me great while trying to get a Rolex DJ41 blue/green dial. Chris Z at London is fantastic.

King Midas could be considered holy trinity

Im afraid that the journey I'm going to like better than the treasured timed piece...

Moving to jersey…..who are some ADs to check out?

Rolex has lost a customer to Grand Seiko.

I'm thankful for the stupid "VIP List game" as I've experienced many more special watches than Rolex or the like.... for example, I got an annual calendar 5146 on full gold bracelet for less than a day date.... Ridiculous.

I just don’t think Rolex has incentive to double production.

The Rolex ADs themselves could ease the waiting list problem dramatically. But they don’t do it. If they sold much more watches to genuine Rolex enthusiasts instead of flippers, there would not be 50 people per watch on the lists but maybe 10. The majority of waiting list entries are flippers. That’s the game here. And the ADs are perfectly aware of it.

Horrible experience a with an AD recently. The fact that I can't get a 6k entry level watch that is just green is utterly ridiculous. I do no think Rolex wants to solve this problem. Its clout driving the prices up at its highest form. I recently have decided I will mot support Rolex by giving them my money in any form. Too much of a free thinker to submit to this dynamic.

Rolex complicated watches did not have high level movement finishing. Same with Longines and others.

Got my avenger at an ad 2x got the sa1 on discount in 2009 and then got another 2014 at wholesale since I worked for an ad

I like your show.

Yes yes yes

Rolex is sought after because demand is much higher than supply, increase supply and the magic will almost certainly go away. So I doubt supply will increase by much.

Re Piaget and the 80s. In Planes, Trains and Automobiles Steve Martin’s ‘hell of a nice watch’ is a Piaget. It’s seen as the antithesis of John Candy’s Casio.

yep, they will flip a switch and double production. "not far down the line" means 5-10 years from now

@BobbyDazzler888

Жыл бұрын

Will the demand still be there i 5 years. The brand has almost zero innovation with regurgitated change the color watches.

@19NJS71

Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyDazzler888 I understand you're a hater. but yes, there is indeed very little innovation going on. but these are watches, not car or computers. watches innovate just for the sake of innovation, unless it's a smartwatch

Nice video mate 🏌🏽‍♂️

Some things are more valuable then cash..

The grey market will grow with the grow of the retail production of Wolex. Why shouldn't it. One million watches they produce already. If they make 1.5 or 2mill....it doesn't matter.

The game at the AD is rigged and not in the customer's favor today. Michael & Christian pointed out the obvious about overspending for watches you don't want just to get "the call" for the one you really want. They are also not exaggerating when they say you need to spend $500,000 to be offered a Daytona. Furthermore, recent grey market dealers confessed on KZread that the same AD's who tell you its "supply & demand so we cannot offer you a Rolex", call a grey market dealer to sell Rolex OVER RETAIL directly to the grey market dealer. The AD does this to cash in on Rolex selling over retail to make a healthy profit. Assuming you still want an Omega, Breitling, or any other brand, take my advice from personal expereince and DON"T PAY full retail to "build a relationship". Instead, negotiate/buy the watch you want from an online dealer at a discount. One day the pendulum will swing back to the watch collectors' favor, and the AD will treat us like a customer should be treated!

New music, aggressive 😂

High end watch companies are the ONLY high end group that make their clients jump thru ‘hoops’. If I want to buy a McLaren I go to the dealer ship and buy one….I don’t have to spend a certain amount of $$$$$$$$ with them I just buy the car….like I did two weeks ago. Deal done (not a flex) just a simple fact of life. So if the grey market will sell me the watch I want I will buy it from them…..simple!!!

@Arc1517

Жыл бұрын

This isn’t true. Ferrari is very much known for these games on buying certain new models as is porsche

@PaulKaiser42

Жыл бұрын

@@Arc1517 how many Ferrari’s and Porsche’s did you need to purchase before getting the one you wanted??

@Arc1517

Жыл бұрын

@@PaulKaiser42 I stick to watches bc they’re less work, easier to store and appreciate in value if you get the right models. As far as the cars go, don’t take my word for it, google “hard to get Ferraris” (then do the same with Porsche). The process to buy a new Ferrari is asinine. GTs are hard to get in the Porsche line

@lordnass381

Жыл бұрын

@@PaulKaiser42 I had to buy a regular 488, keep it for 6 months before trading it in to purchase the Pista. Porsche does this too with every RS or special 911 model, Mclaren too with their LT variants.

@PaulKaiser42

Жыл бұрын

@@lordnass381 I’m sorry to hear that but it has not been my experience.

Funny seeing this 6mos later

The Rolex waitlist is an arbitrary and fake luxury marketing ploy, but it also inflicts pain on middlebrow New Money guys who normally aren't denied anything, so it's impossible to say whether it's good or bad

“We all get paid baby!”

Any idea if there are more people who would want a Daytona if they could get one at say 10000 than there are those would sell the one they paid 25k for because it is no longer worth 25k? Let's say Rolex makes a million watches this year. If they make 1,250,000 or 1,333,000 next year will they be able to sell of those at about the same profit per watch that they got from this year's million? How about say five years down the road? How much of the desire is because not everyone can have one because of shortages, and how much of the exclusivity is because even say 5% off MSRP a lot of people still can not have one?

In the 90s or early 2000,"Megabass" Lures for fishing were hyped up and hard to get. people had to buy a lot to get them and there were even flippers lol🎉 After like 10years, boomers left and now you can get whatever lures from Megabass you want from AD who have piles of stock inventory. I'm not saying Rolex is going to follow the same path But because I remember what happened to megabass, I lick my finger like a baby, bite my left year like a Idiot to save my self from spending more than MSRP to get a Rolex.😂

Shovelful after shovelful of paydirt that at the end of the day yields a few ounces of gold. That's this show. And that's not a knock. The small talk and inside jokes and incomplete sentences and references to people I've never heard of, with moments of insider brilliance mixed with experience? Phenommininal. ......that was a knock. Stop saying "phenomenal".

They don’t half the list they half the time

Didn't Rolex watch the Beanie Babies movie?

Good stuff lads!

*comment to support the algo*

Does Rolex really want the Daytona to be the AD's reward watch? I don't think they do. Rolex doesn't make more money because the AD locks Daytona in the back cabinet, telling people who would buy one no. It's turned into a game that makes people mad. I hope Rolex floods that market.

Yes

Prices are going up come on man what are u talking about Rolex is the best watch in the world they should be hard to get

Rolex is going to raise prices. They aren’t going to smash the gray market; they will validate it. Rolex is pushing Tudor to become what Rolex was, and drive “average” consumers towards that brand. Rolex wants to become more expensive, more exclusive, and thereby be perceived as true luxury. Rolex has been enviously eyeing other brands that command a higher price and prestige. These guys are fools for not seeing that.

Nah already outgrown rolex. They can have it.😊

Rolex is really just like a high end Walmart watch. They don't have the prestige anymore.

Rolex will not smash the grey marked. They got 4 factories now and will maybe build the 5th factory. If they are the factory will be starting production in 2029

Disagree with this - Rolex wants the grey market to succeed, this is how they built their allure and brand… they are growing sales each year and this is based on the “decide now or forever lost” allure of “the list.” If people were able to walk into a Rolex AD and buy any watch they pleased, the brand would be impacted negatively and sales would likely fade over next 2-3 years…

But vintage models may go up?

My guy at Bucherer told me I would have to spend 200k to get a Daytona

@djdc81

Жыл бұрын

...which would be bloody insane

haha Guy is simping so hard for Rolex. I can imagine having to 'build a relationship" to get on a waitlist to pay top dollar for a mass produced watch!

no way Rolex becomes easily available. They would lose a lost of their appeal. You want what you can't get. They know this. Would you spend 10k on a watch if you'd know it wouldnt keep its value because of rarity? I am not rich so I know I would not.

Yay, more Rolex content.

one day, maybe not tomorrow, or the next day but one day. Christian will open up with "hello everyone, im Christian Zeron, and I AM EVERYTHING WRONG WITH THE WATCH WORLD." "and im joined by yung mikey, sponsored by hello fresh"

Double production, what a load of crap!

Hello all

Rolex coalition

Some people liked getting kicked in the balls. Some are even willing to pay for it.

@BobbyDazzler888

Жыл бұрын

Ill do it for free.

@gregoryrogalsky6937

Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyDazzler888 I only kick someone in the balls if I have to. As far as people simping to get a watch. Cringe as fuck

Please Rolex....kill the grey market, please.

I’m going to move to Grand Seiko from Rolex. Rolex has turned into a hype beast brand rather than something of actual fine craftsmanship. Their quality control is bad

I feel bad for Michael having to listen to those long rants, even when he is sending the signals of dude end your freaking opinion.

@Arc1517

Жыл бұрын

3:32

Think for yourself Michael. Stop listening to Christian.

Why would you dilute your brand, if every man and his dog can afford a Rolex the brand becomes worth less….

@Mega-zi7ys

Жыл бұрын

It's a very common watch in Asia am not talking about the fakes...the real thing is too common, infact there's over exposure already.

@dellwright1407

Жыл бұрын

@@Mega-zi7ys Am sure it is common in Asia... but you still cant go to Asia and buy one retail. Worldwide they trade higher on the grey market.