I smile everytime I see your note sheet because it looks like you diligently write out all the points you want to mention and then you yellow highlight everyone one of them.

@Karjavanukas

2 жыл бұрын

It's to make it easier to read since he has condition that makes it harder. Perfectly reasonable. Just like slapping a fan on R5 to make overheating go away.

I always love how you give the non-sugar coated look at new cameras.

@WOLFTICKVIDEOS

2 жыл бұрын

100%!!!

Wow, this actually seems like a true hybrid camera. It seems to be full-on both photo and video. Two cameras in one. Great job Canon

I think Cannon missed the boat not including IBIS that can be switched off.

Glad you respected the embargo! It’s a shame Canon USA didn’t with their two videos! 😂😂😂😂

@froknowsphoto

2 жыл бұрын

What? What time did they go live

@patrick.munich

2 жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto Way before, I watched them 3 or 4 hours before the official announcement...but they were removed again like an hour before the announcement

@froknowsphoto

2 жыл бұрын

I see they put them up at modbifht

@philipbloom

2 жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto their two videos went live 7 hours ago. Whoops.

@Mintyseden

2 жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto modbifht ?

Hi Jared, are you planning on doing a full tutorial and setup on the R5C like you did with the R5? This was very informative on the R5 and useful for initial setup, especially for video! Thank you sir!

I LOVE my Pentax 645z.

@froknowsphoto

2 жыл бұрын

i never tried one.

@coastalbay4k

2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see Phillip Bloom's review of the Canon EOS R5C.

@alvareo92

2 жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto ya really should!

Interesting price point. I hope we continue to see this kind of variety of RF bodies. Maybe stills cameras on par with the Rebel line for people just jumping into the new system. And bundle the damn adapters! 😂

Gosh I loved that first minute. Thank you for being great Jared

I've been waiting for a review on this for SO LONG!

Thankyou Nikon Z9

I was gonna order R5 C but lack of IBIS & Micro HDMI port just killed that deal for me. I will go with Nikon Z9

I was wondering if the extra power needed to run this camera and lens at 8k 60 will be included with the camera or will people need to research the external power supply too?

Cinema cameras don't have IBIS (Arri, Red, Blackmagic, Z Cam etc), because they usually sit on a tripod / dolly / crane / stabiliser. There are not many "handheld" shots (compared to all other) in cinema.

@harryvuemedia5106

2 жыл бұрын

R5C is not a cinema camera, its a Hybrid camera.

@burritobrosvideos8060

2 жыл бұрын

@@harryvuemedia5106 you don't need ibis for stills.

@yosoyadae

3 ай бұрын

@@harryvuemedia5106 it is a cinema camera… lol

I do prefer not having the wobbly IBIS unless it can be turned off and keep the lens IS on which isn't the case right now. This camera is totally perfect to me. The only thing is I would have preferred something in a FX3/a7siii form factor but i can do with it. *chef kiss*

I stayed up for this 📷 (4 AM in California) No IBIS? Lame. Everything else: Sweet.

@Mintyseden

2 жыл бұрын

same

@MadaAtoms

2 жыл бұрын

Would you still buy I am only shooting one wedding but otherwise mostly video

@SeanColey

2 жыл бұрын

@@MadaAtoms I personally will be buying at least one of these to pair with my R5. Whether or not you should buy one depends on many factors. My full-time job is a photographer/videographer for weddings, quinceañeras, sweet sixteens, and portrait sessions. Having a camera that covers both photo and video with great quality allows me save money instead of buying dedicated cameras for each. The lack of weather sealing; however, will mean that I'll keep my R5 for rainy days.

I'll stick with the Sony FX3 😬

For the missing IBIS I think an important factor is the cooling. A free-floating sensor is way harder to cool than a locked sensor attached to a cooling-block which I guess is used in this camera. At least that's what Blackmagicdesign argued for it's camera line some years ago regarding IBIS.

@antiseth3964

2 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely true. I recently picked up an A7IV, and turning off the IBIS nets a HUGE increase in record time before overheating. My guess is those gains are even better if you have the sensor completely locked down.

I don’t think I’ve been on set where the cam operator would have ibis turned on (most cinema camera don’t have ibis I think). If this is meant to be more of a “cinema” camera then you would think the people using it would have it rigged up in a cage, on a gimbal, dolly etc. so I’m sure Canon didn’t want to make it more expensive for a feature that the target market won’t even use

@Seitenwerk

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Its crazy because it seems like people will criticize everything this day regardless s of how good it is especially if they dont know about the reasons. That was the case with 8k overheat on a weather sealed hybrid body and now those videographers get the variant for their needs and the photographers criticize things without having an idea about the real world use case

@nerfbutt

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I imagine the missing IBIS is more of an issue for photographers going hand held.

@Seitenwerk

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerfbutt and even then it’s somewhat overhyped. As IBIS will usually only help you for stills and landscape etc. you can’t lower the shutter speed thinking IBIS will compensate when shooting people/moving subjects.

Man the way you explain everything is just dope and addictive. Your videos are awesome 😎

Can it record from 8k downsampled 4k in 60p?

This is like a new aged 1DC. Love it!

Without IBIS they really should've added internal ND filters.

@danivar86

2 жыл бұрын

If it had internal ND's I honestly would've bought it to replace my current cinema camera with a perfect hybrid. Now I will have to keep my C200 and at that point I'd rather have a regular R5 as a stills/backup video camera.

@Mintyseden

2 жыл бұрын

yes that is weird, but in the comments I saw a reasonable explanation. The cooling of the chip is probably mounted directly on it. All for the sake of 8K which, to be frank, I dont give a S.. about. MUUUCH rather have ND

@danivar86

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Mintyseden Yeah. The mechanical shutter might also prohibit the filter mechanism I suspect. Perhaps they could make an R3C with a fast readout sensor that only uses the electronic shutter for stills but has internal ND's for video.

IBIS actually means that the sensor simply floats and it's corrected electronically. Thus, there is no "turn off" feature. There is only "stabilize" and "no stabilization active".

The 8k60 is an interesting prospect, but I would rather have had IBIS and a full sized HDMI port… I’ll stick with my R5 until the R1 comes out.

@johnsmith-ti9yz

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought too, but now I’m figuring you can shoot in 8K, and just crop into 4K and have plenty to stabilize with

@ashmaterial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting us now

@burritobrosvideos8060

2 жыл бұрын

I assume you don't record video, because if you did you would be all over this camera

@jpeltzphotodesign

2 жыл бұрын

@@burritobrosvideos8060 Your assumption, as most assumptions go, is wrong. I output 8k ProRes Raw to an Atomos Ninja V+... with no overheating, no record limits, and the ability to plug the SSD I record to directly into my editing workstation.

I just love to hear it from you Jared.!!

R5 with a fan slapped on it love your sense of humor.😂

I was getting ready to get a c70, but this is making me consider an r5c now. The ibis isn't a deal breaker for me as I've never relied on it in a camera, I used rigs and gimbals when needed. I like the fact that it's a hybrid photo and video. The DGO on the c70 is still making me lean that way as I may stick with my EOS r for photos and have it as a separate camera.

@sydneynomura281

Жыл бұрын

what did you end up choosing...R5C I hope

@taurinh

Жыл бұрын

@@sydneynomura281 I went with the c70. I shoot mainly video and we have an EOSr already. I’ll get an r5c as my next B cam.

@BrandonTalbot

Жыл бұрын

That c70 is glorious. The R5c is great but I definitely prefer the workflow and image of the C70

I think the reason for not having IBIS is the fan itself. The airflow would move the sensor a tiny bit (IBIS sensors are not fixed that stable).

Glad to see the designers who worked on the Kodak DCS Pro SLR/c/n still have a job.

What a beauty of camera!

That is a really good idea from Canon . They already spent most of the money on the r5 so it womt be as expansive as a whole new model would be and put ports and fans etc in. Im glad they have two models cause i will still buy the r5 but for those that need to film longer clips etc they have this camera .

Thank you Jared for this great review

Dang! I'm still using my 5dMiii and waiting to upgrade later this year. This is an impressive camera!

Hey Jared. fellow Philly. Normally IBIS is removed for video because it’s impossible for them work properly with Built in ND filters. Which is what makes this decision even more confusing. Why remove the IBIS but not put in NDs is really confusing.

@froknowsphoto

2 жыл бұрын

I wish they would have explained that.

@froknowsphoto

2 жыл бұрын

Thought, we use them outside all the time

@andrewmason8691

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that, but it makes the decision even stranger.

@coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree it’s kind of confusing only things I could think of. 1.Because there’s not enough room. 2. Because of the power shortage 3. So people still buy R5. 4. So people do not complain about the wobbling affects At wide-angle‘s

@JamesJacksonFilmz

2 жыл бұрын

@@coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342 my guess is power limitation

Interesting camera for a hybrid cinema/photographer. Don't care really care about the missing IBIS but Internal ND should be mandatory in 2022. The specs are impressive when compared to the FX3.

Perfect Camera for me. To match my R5. A cam to B cam. Switch out Cameras according to Shoot. Use R5c to shoot video on Weebil S, use R5 HQ fine for B-roll and behind the screen, photos. Only thing now is to match up cam footage, maybe timecode.

For what it's worth, regarding the IBIS, I totally agree with the fact that IBIS is great when you're running and gunning. But. With Cine cameras, you don't typically Run and gun with those. Do we criticise Alexa LF's and RED Monstros for not having IBIS? Of course not. I'd argue most cinematographers typically don't want ibis at all. I'm sure there were engineering decisions in mind when removing IBIS from this one.

Great video! I'm thinking to buy this but not sure if it is suitable for what I am doing most. Rally Photography heavily focused on photo but some video as well. Since it's basically the R5 it should be totally fine, right?

3:55 The Image Stabilization (IS) in the lens. There can be no IBIS in a lens.

Just because it has a fan doesn't necessarily mean that it is any less weather sealed than the regular r5. In the Panasonic S1H, for example, the cooling chamber only has the fans and an exposed area of heat sink. So, yes, you have to have a (probably caulked) port for a wire to run the fan, but this also true for the wiring to the flippy screen. If you examine the B&H page for the regular R5, there is no mention of weather sealing on the body either. Doesn't mean it doesn't have it!

Sold off my R5 a few months after launch. The overheating was an issue for me. Really liking my R3, though they should have done a few things differently. Currently waiting for the R1 and the R-mount C100/200 (depending on specs)

@creativegreats6924

2 жыл бұрын

Does the r3 have pixel binning in 4k or does it shoot 6k 120 no pixel binning ?

@nunooliveira4257

2 жыл бұрын

What do you miss on the R3?

@neo_man

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunooliveira4257 😀 PIXELS. 24 is a joke. Nikon z9 and A1 is making a fool out of R3. Wait for the R1....but when will that come out? 2023/2024?

@Seitenwerk

2 жыл бұрын

@@neo_man A joke? its the standard range for professional camera. An the R3 ist even a competition for the A1. The "3" range is targeted as speed/sport photography and is currently the only one having an eye focus which basically beats every competition in usability. The competition for the A1 is actually the R5. And interestingly, for nearly half the prize its actually better in most specs than the A1. We can only wonder what the R1 will be alotugh I dont want to get excited to early as people will hype things up so much these days that even when its fantastic, it will receive immersive hate.

@akanbilincoln3891

2 жыл бұрын

Buy Sony a1 instead. Don't die with canon, Sony all the way.

If I didn't already own an R5 I might get an R5C. 8K sounded great to me until I had to edit it and I don't even have an 8K screen. I would call the R5 a still camera for photographers who sometimes want to shoot great video and I would call the R5 a cinema camera for cinematographers who sometimes want to take great stills.

@Seitenwerk

2 жыл бұрын

In some way that's exactly how they are meant to be used/targeted. They are hybrids, but still focused on specific needs. Most of the hate online was for clicks and total nonsense like criticizing the first available 8k hybrid with weather sealing which fulfilled all the wished people wanted for overheating after recording around 25 minute, when in reality you couldn't even find enough space for recording half the length ^^. (or that videographers who actually do use that stuff will buy a dedicated deinem camera and not use a hybrid photo camera for this work)

How long is the run time while shooting in 4k with just the updated firmware.

Cool camera. I was hoping for Clog2. My only issues with the R5 were the recording time/heat problem and the sensor not having much in the way of DR for the video function. The R5C address' one of those problems but the dynamic range one is still there. Ill be waiting to see if they bring out a full frame version of the c70/c300mkiii with the RF mount!

@Rootch-jt1xy

2 жыл бұрын

Clog2 doesn't really have a point in an R5. You can not take out more DR then the sensor offers, even with log. So if the sensor supplies just 14 stops it will not supply more with clog2 even if it would support up to 16 stops (or 18?).

@mmcphotographyirl

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rootch-jt1xy true! All the same, it's DR in stills is excellent but it's DR in video is so-so. That's all. When it's the same sensor you can't expect miracles, but Clog 2 is a much flatter profile and every little helps

S1H is so inspiration

Can the fan be shut iff? And, curious to your opinion as to will fan noise become an issue?

The specs are crazy on this!

Fro - When in still mode, can we hit the same red record butting on this to switch instantly to video C3 ? Otherwise the wait time could be a sport shooters deal breaker

what in the S1H

Hi, thank you for sharing this interesting video. I have a question please: can you tell me which zoom lens could I buy? I would like a 24-105mm or more for making 4K documentaries around the world? Thank you.

@Jared, Canon Europe also confirms that R5 has DPAF2 over DPAF1 on R5C and C70.. DPAF2 for stills, DPAF1 for video. Are the same between r5 and R5c R5c used the same AF as the R5 (Dual Pixel CMOS AF II) when in video mode and am VERY disappointed to find out that the R5c uses the same AF as the C70 (Dual Pixel CMOS AF with iTR AF X).

Jared, Nice preview. Have they stuck with keeping an SD card in there? Or do we have 2 x CF Express cards?

@burritobrosvideos8060

2 жыл бұрын

Good question. I think its still the 1 cfexpress

As an R5 owner, I'm not the least bit jilted. I don't do video much, but when I do it's not at the level this beast can do it. I'll keep my R5 and it's IBIS. I did think it was going to come in closer to the C70 in price than it did.

I have fropack 1 and 3, really love capone!!

I just keep looking at this funny design to make sure it’s a r5 with a fan🤣

Pros will love this camera! Ppl who don’t even own a camera but love to comment like they do will hate it and complain about something

The Z 9 literally does all this does, without the fan!

@coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342

2 жыл бұрын

Not exactly some of the recording features are different.

@stepheneckert4006

2 жыл бұрын

It literally doesn’t

@t1mothy.1

2 жыл бұрын

@@stepheneckert4006 with the firmware update it will be able to do 8k 60FPS RAW internally, and ProRes Raw internally in a much more efficient format, it can do it on battery power alone, not with the adapter and so much more and all that without the bulk of the fan

@airjaff

2 жыл бұрын

@@stepheneckert4006 It "literally" does. Why buy this at this price when 1k more you get a much better and versatile camera in the z9

@Dean_WeAreTheShow

2 жыл бұрын

finally, a suitable b cam to my 90d!! 😃😂

I have a question. If you could please answer it as I am trying to get back into KZread. What camera do you personally use to shoot this video? And since most likely is going to be way out of my budget, can you please tell me in your experience which camera literally half the price of your I can use that can get me close to yoour video quality? I am only worry about video and easy if use. Not loaded with features. The only thing that comes to mind is decent quality at low light. Thank you so much by the way. Have learned a ton watching some of the videos.

Apologizing if already mentioned, but likely lack of IBIS stems from the increase in cooling efficiency and simplification of design of cooling a sensor with a heat sink hard mounted to it instead of having to accommodate a moving sensor. Is it not true that some of the other cameras in this form factor that shoot high end video also do not have IBIS? I never shoot video, am a VERY happy R5 user, and will never buy this camera, so just curious if IBIS is a standard feature in all of the other mirrorless form factor high data rate video capable cameras out there?

This one would be perfect for me. Cause I like photos and videos. Video a little more so ill have fun with that, But Im glad to see that we still get the same resolution at the original R5

Happy birthday jared polin 😍

Are you at some point going to do a user guide video on the R5C like you did with the R5? Thanks!

Great video! I still stuck with 5D MK IV...

So it's an R5 with a fan AND some software tweaks for $600 more. At $4500 you're nearly up to the cost of a Z9 which should get the 8k 60fps update before the R5c launches. I guess the one advantage of the R5c is they it sounds like you will actually be able to buy it, unlike the Z9. However, the lack of IBIS in the R5c is a pretty glaring omission. Maybe some videographers won't mind or prefer it this way, but considering that you can lock IBIS in other cameras it was pretty clearly just a cost saving measure to leave it out.

@burritobrosvideos8060

2 жыл бұрын

You are wrong in so many ways haha

If it had IBIS, I'd be ordering one today. I cannot understand why they'd not put IBIS on for stills and allow you to lock it off for video IF you so wished. That seems a no brainer for me. But, what do I know?

finally! A suitable b cam to my 90d!!

It’s a little early for an April’s fool Jared. Brilliant.

Electronic stabilization... Meaning your original image (UHD DCI 4K) will be lost, so you'll lose some of the original resolution you'd otherwise have without ES, but you gain some stabilization which would mimic IBIS. It's akin to downsampling from 8K to 4K except you're cropping your footage down as it's being shot. Which if you are in a run-and-gun situation, is a good tradeoff if your subject is in motion. You still have OIS to help stabilize the footage, you're just asking the camera to shave off some of the image as it records so it can stabilize while you're shooting instead of doing it in-post.

I was waiting for almost 2 years for this bad boy to come out.. and guess what this bunch of mf don't put IBIS. I'm a wedding film maker 60% of the time I'm shooting handheld and guess what I'm not longer buying it.🤬🤬🤬

@Suroky232

2 жыл бұрын

agreed! A huge mistake not including this.

@mvbproductions_in

2 жыл бұрын

@@Suroky232 feeling helpless kind of.. cause already shifted to canon buying all RF lenses with R6. Didn't though Canon would be this much disappointing.

Hi Jared I like photo first two so what do you recommend

I hope this makes Sony add false color and other pro video features to the FX3

great video! 👍

Any news on the R5C? I went to order one today and saw that it was no longer on the Canon website, called and they told me it is no longer for sale?

Why would Canon revert back to AF I on the R5C? Do you think that it is one of many "little" things they did to reduce power consumption (which translates to heat)? Just seems like a step backwards. As you mentioned, if you're shooting stills and

I think by March this camera will be outdated. The Lack of Weather sealing is just a no go. I live by the water and this camera does not look like it is robust enough to handle the elements I work in. I can just imagine Mortin Hilmer in Svalbard with this camera now! I truly hope the new R1 is going to be much better. We need the healthy competition from all makers to push each other. It creates a win win scenario for us end users!

@petercreagh8797

2 жыл бұрын

I would imagine the fan would get noisy over time if it does not make a noise now anyway.

I think that the r5C doesn't have ibis because the cinema buyers normally uses a gimbal to do their job.

@MrJak427

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t help the stills side of things though…….. and this is a hybrid so it should be able to both… if you can lock the censor on a std R5 it must lock somehow so why take that away from stills shooters again it’s a hybrid it should have had nothing taken away from what the std R5 did

@burritobrosvideos8060

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJak427 ibis is honestly for amateurs and isn't needed.

You have got the Froest Fro I know. 🌟

Finally…… some Pentax content 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

As someone who's owned 4 Canon cameras, an A3 printer & A4 scanners, this video camera leaves me speechless.

This man just said the sentence “full-frame 8k in 12 bit RAW up to 60p internally” and I soiled myself

I just want an R6C, 4k raw light with 60p, IBIS and dual pixel 2 AF

I got a Canon 5D Mark IV, i feel like i been under a rock that I haven't seen anyone that I follow photography-wise talking about this camera and its been out for so long, until recently that is, now I'm here thinking should I switch and why? just because is the lastest new toy in my braket, idk I'm still watching tons of videos about and now there is this R5 C, gosh it will never end, they cant really give you a top camera with the features that everyone would want.

One No-IBIS theory is the sensor is locked in to support upcoming RF cine glass and some physics involved there...possibly. That said, it's a deal breaker here unfortunately,

Hey bro I always check your show to get great reviews on cameras. My wife been asking me for a camera so she can take photos in the professional level and I been interested in getting the canon r5, but now I see that canon is releasing the r5c with the heating issue solved, I like to take videos and she wants to take pictures. Since it is gonna be our first Camera should I go with the R5c.

That's the most ridiculous ergonomics I think I have ever seen in a camera. What the heck were they thinking.

@toddlower5546

2 жыл бұрын

Your kidding, right. View cameras, medium format cameras like twin reflex or a Hasselblad 500. Almost any design not based on SLR camera design is less ergonomic than this design.

@stepheneckert4006

2 жыл бұрын

Have you not seen cinema cameras before? They’re essentially boxes. This at least is still useable in the hands

Photography is curtailed by the lack of a stabilizer in the camera, is that all? Thanks for the review.

You don't shoot with cinema cameras? What do you typically shoot with?

The ‘C’ stands for “cooled” 😎

What Nikon camera can this be compared to?

I'm sorry was an IBIS? I'm newbie here just learning

Interesting camera. I would miss the IBIS and weather sealing of the R5. Seems like this is a good camera for a true hybrid shooter. I've never met a true hybrid shooter. Most folks I work with have a camera for cinema and a camera for stills. But not one for both. I would not use R5C for a video project, I would lean toward the C70 or the C300 mark iii.

@burritobrosvideos8060

2 жыл бұрын

The r5c has better video quality than bot of those

Didn’t they say, that 8k 60 raw is only available when externally powered or am i confused?

@froknowsphoto

2 жыл бұрын

yes. Plug in a USBC charger or power adapter. It needs more power.

@The_Daliban

2 жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto thanks Jared! Looking forward to the review ❤️

@coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342

2 жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto I bet you could do it with the battery pack on it too.

It could still be weather proof if Canon designed it properly, as the vents would lead to the surface of a heat exchanger, not the electronics themselves.

Jared, will you do a photography-centric review of the R5C? Hard to find on KZread. Most reviews are for video. It would be nice to know if the R5C is on a par with the R5 for photo, even without IBIS. Thanks for considering this wish ;-)

Jeremy Parr Jared I don't no much about migpixcell or videos but this camera looks and sounds good yours truly Jeremy Parr

No ibis lol and less weather sealing

My guess is that there is no IBIS because that would mostly negate the benefits or having a fan, you can cool the sensor much better if it's directly attached to an heatsink

@Mintyseden

2 жыл бұрын

thats actually a great explanation of their decision. That makes sense

@shuggfilmzandstudio2354

2 жыл бұрын

The sony fx3 has fans and IBIS

@v0ldy54

2 жыл бұрын

@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354 you can have both, but the cooling will surely be much better without the IBIS because of the heatsinks

@richardbeasley9084

2 жыл бұрын

@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354 The FX3 doesn't shoot 8k raw video.

@shuggfilmzandstudio2354

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardbeasley9084 true

i feel the lack of IBIS is a deal breaker for me..

in 2022 no IBIS, Full HDMI, and mixed cards. No way to have a backup in 8K or 120fps 4k.