My hands-on review of the Canon EOS R5C vs the original R5! Canon EOS R5C at B&H: bhpho.to/3IjOpFG / WEX UK: tidd.ly/3GKB74q Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Cameralabs merchandise: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Gordon’s retro gear channel: kzread.info Equipment used for producing my videos Sony A6400: amzn.to/3hul53c Sony e 24mm f1.8: amzn.to/2TqWNzk Rode NT USB mic: amzn.to/3AdHcUp Rode Wireless Go II mic: amzn.to/3xkCvGo Rode Lavalier Go mic: amzn.to/3ygzzKY Godox UL150 light: amzn.to/2VpVbXE Godox QR-P70 softbox: amzn.to/3yQfGdF MacBook Pro 14in (16GB / 1TB): bhpho.to/3HiafJL 00:00 - intro 01:08 - what's new? 03:09 - stabilization 04:41 - internal tweaks 05:32 - screen and viewfinder 05:49 - ports 06:09 - R5C vs R5 overheating comparison 09:13 - R5C fan modes and noise 10:28 - R5C menu options 12:45 - R5C real-life resolution comparison 13:58 - R5C vs R5 resolution comparison 15:19 - R5C vs R5 noise and high ISO comparison 16:11 - R5C dynamic range and RAW 16:41 - R5C vs R5 rolling shutter 17:09 - final verdict Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases

@Dean_WeAreTheShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the fast hands on! I just wanted to ask, does it have shutter angle?

@mandofan2616

2 жыл бұрын

Great review as always. But the complaints are already out, mainly no IBIS and Micro HDMI. canon have this knack of always making "almost" perfect cameras. But we'll wait and see if there are lockups/freezes like the R5, R6 and now R3 are experiencing.

@kraft1954

2 жыл бұрын

In video mode, only the first version works, there is no Dual Pixel Autofocus II, this second version only works in photo mode, this is bad)

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dean_WeAreTheShow yes it does!

@Dean_WeAreTheShow

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs Thank you, I had just one more question. Are the raw files the same as the r5?... I ask because if they aren't CapureOne's going to try to squeeze another 300 outta me lol

Another great review. No frills, just the info we all want. For the eagle eyed among us, I would say that the original R5 in 4K HQ mode still looks a hair sharper than the oversampled 4K on the new R5C at 15:07 👀

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

I'd agree from that test, but remember it is pre-production. I think in real-life terms you'd be unlikely tell much difference between them.

Holy cow, a review which actually shows good examples? One that showed the buttons up close and talks about situational use rather than just reading a spec sheet and mimicking every other KZreadr ? You got my sub. Well done.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Removing the IBIS was completely fine and I’m happy to buy the r5c given that the IBIS in the r5 had that terrible wobble effect. Digital stabilisation looks great in these tests. Great video!

The youtube channel I've been looking for. Absolutely love the side by side comparisons that must have taken a lot of time to do instead of just talking in approximates and giving a few samples that aren't super helpful unless looked at side by side. Subscribed at first sight🤩

@cameralabs

Жыл бұрын

Thankyou! Yes, the comparisons take ages, but I think are very important

@rjkbuny

Жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs appreciate it!!

As always a solid review! I’m testing the r5C this week and will record my thoughts. All the best.

Circling back, having had the R5C a week now: it's a beast. Loving it. It's the Canon camera that I wanted, ever since I had to move to the Panasonic GH4 for video.

Gordon: like I always say, you are the best balanced reviewer.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou!

Great review Gordon, thank's for sharing this super speedy real life experience 🙂

Thanks for the review Gordon! Does the menu system offer control over the fans in Photo mode or only Video? My use case is for long-exposure astrophotography. It would be nice to be able to cool down the camera sensor, esp. during the summer months where thermal noise can be an issue.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Now that's a great idea! The fan doesn't operate in photo mode and there's no menu for them as they assume no-one would want it, but I wonder if it would be beneficial for this application?

@vaskoobscura_

2 жыл бұрын

If you're doing a long exposure in photo mode why would you want a fan adding vibration to your camera?

@NebulaPhotos

2 жыл бұрын

​@@vaskoobscura_ Depends on the fan, and how it is mounted. Dedicated astronomy cameras all use fans in their peltier cooler designs and are able to avoid vibration problems. But since Canon didn't design the fans for this purpose, it may indeed pose a problem at high focal length. In any case, per Gordon above, the fans don't operate in photo mode.

@k.o.t.o.n.

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs hy! is it worth the hzassle for additional 10fps on 8k, of making it even bulkier and hzeavier, or limiting your movement withz a kable that atteces into your sling bag to a battery?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

@@k.o.t.o.n. it's your call. I live in a PAL region so work in 25 and 50p anyway, so I get to shoot RAW on the R5C without external power!

Thanks Gordon for providing a fantastic unbiased review. And thanks for being my " Safe space " for KZread camera reviews lol

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, i wish more would find me here!

This is a really great review. Thank you for posting. You've become my first port of call for reviews these days. I love the fact that you give clear, unbiased reviews , don't rely on clickbaiting or negativity to get attention. I'm still happy with my R5 ( apart from the mciro HDMI ! ) and the video limitations don't really affect but this seems to me to be a fantastic camera and no doubt will please many.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I prefer a calm approach although it does draw fewer viewers than the clickbaity videos.

Can it record from 8k downsampled 4k in 60p?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

All 4k from 24-60 is oversampled and I show it in the video

Such a significant and systematic review, thanks Gordon

00:24 - 1st pre-review statement "it does not overheat" - 2022 sign of the times😄 Great preview Gordon - thank you! I am surprised the IBIS has been removed AFTER ADDING active heat management (scratching my head - why?). The essence of running and gunning rig (in particular in the light of aggressive price point - well done Canon) is the freedom of hand held minimalism - one lens, one body, top handle - DONE. (anyone to film a car interior with a gimble rig during a crowded expo. Yeah, no.) Also it's a bit ugly in a "i could used to it cos it's a 8K video cam" kinda way 😄

Very good tests. Thankyou... I'm pretty convinced by this camera...

Another stellar review, Gordon!

Canon: We removed IBIS because the target audience won’t use it. Also Canon: We kept the micro HDMI because the target audience doesn’t expect it.

@presise1620

2 жыл бұрын

right. The target audience will use the hdmi port way more than the ibis. I have a gimbal and a ninja v.

@robmcd

2 жыл бұрын

@@presise1620 I was prepared to preorder until I found that out. So I didn’t expect it!

@RockyMaiviaMiami

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh I’m dying over here. I feel like they actually had this conversation. Oh and let’s have it reboot like dog gone duel boot computer 😂

@presise1620

2 жыл бұрын

@@RockyMaiviaMiami I broke an hdmi cable after 1 of using it. The hdmi port gives me more anxiety than the overheating and that hard to do. 😂

@Dean_WeAreTheShow

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

Ugh. Or perhaps, as an R5 owner, I should thank Canon for saving me $4,500. No IBIS is a deal killer for someone like me who loves a minimal, hand-held experience. The electronic stabilization retains micro-jitters as did my original EOS-R... I never used it. As for stills, once I received my R5, I never used the original EOS R again--it's really nice to not worry about motion blur with somewhat lower shutter speeds in the 1/15 and 1/30 range, even 1/60th at times. And I don't buy the overheating excuse as the Lumix S1h is very similar in design (cooling system) and has been reported to never overheat even in the worst of conditions (Dan Watson's channel and others). And then, no mention of Clog2... (firmware update in the future?). But this is a cool design (oops, unintended pun).

@andytrace

2 жыл бұрын

No IBIS is ludicrous, blaming it on heat with that giant fan 🤣 my S1 & S5 shoot 5k with zero heat issues. Thought this could have been the canon I've been waiting for since I sold my 5D mkii but nope. :(

@DreamReleases

2 жыл бұрын

@@andytrace Stick with still cameras with video options. Those are for you. This is a camera in the cinema line which obviously isnt you.

@andytrace

2 жыл бұрын

@@DreamReleases I shoot majority video, so a robust, video centric camera is what I'd love, I want the canon AF from the R5 (which this also doesn't have) and I want to be able to use my canon lenses. For years I've been wondering why they can't just make a camera that's between the crippled stills cameras with video and the high end cinema cameras, with a price that it's worth it for them to potentially lose out on a handful of sales of cinema cameras. I thought this was finally it, the robust video camera for the run and gun, one man band shooter. How hard is it to make an R5, with ALL the R5 features that won't overheat.... They've added a fan, but removed the better AF and the "heat creating' IBIS... What's the fan doing because realistically this should run cooler than an R5 without it! They're missing out on thousands of sales from 10 a penny shooters like me. Rant Over :D

@TomislavMoze

2 жыл бұрын

@@andytrace I think R3 is a great option, I decided to go for the R3 probably, would love a bit smaller form factor but I think it is a better hybrid solution.

Awesome. You always get the unit to test first hand quicker than most (if not all) of the reviewers. Canon or your source loves you.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

My source is Canon, so they must like something I do.

@patrickfitzgerald2861

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs 🤣 Well, for one thing you never try and pull a Kasey move on them! Canon Cripple Hammer indeed! 😅 And even though I have my own issues with their products, I give them five stars for producing them in nations that are NOT engaging in genocide . . . rant over and out. 😉

Great review Gordon. Thank you.

Thanks a lot, Gordon!

As always, excellent work Gordon! I've been in search of the 'perfect' hybrid for years now, this Canon R5c might just be it! I was positive my perfect hybrid was a self made myth up until Sony released the A1. I already owned the R5 and C70 at this point keep in mind. I picked up the A1 and FX3, A7S3 with mindset of switching ecosystems due largely to 4k and 8K with no overheating. Admittedly, my own assumptions here were my an expensive lesson. I assumed Sony would play nice with Atomos. It does up to 4k 60p, anything above that, not an option as Sony doesn't output 8K via HDMI like Canon does with the R5. So with my Canon R5 I was able to use my Atomos Ninja V+ to extend all options the R5 offered. With Sony, I was held back to in camera because Sony has yet to unlock the HDMI out (for 8K) for Atomos or other external options. They did the same thing locking down 4k 120p out in the A7S3 and FX3 as well so again, no Atomos Ninja V+ options. It would seem Sony wants to keep things in camera. Nice way of upselling the Sony tough line of CFexpress cards I guess? So now on my gear shelf, I've expanded to include the R3 for other work along side my R5, C70 and R. The Sony Shelf has the A1, FX3, A7S3 but I feel that Sony's days may be numbered with me as I have been reaching time and time again for the Canon equipment purely out of compatibility in most cases. I had a deposit in place for the R5C from about four or five months ago when rumours started swirling about it so come March 15th, I'll have one and hopefully... I can stop overlapping gear. Probably not, but hopefully. lol 👍😂 A couple questions - 1) the R5c's 8K RAW out, that isn't the same ProRES Raw as found in the R5 is it? 2) Do you think the new RF 5.2 dual fisheye lens will work on this camera offering the ability to shoot 8k 60p (when attached externally for power) VR? Again, many thanks for your expertise and testing!

@ourbellalife

2 жыл бұрын

Gordon, I looked into the two questions I asked you and Canon themselves on the official support page for the R5C answer both of these questions. Yes, 8K Raw out via HDMI is ProRES Raw if used with the Atomos Ninja V+ (8K is only compatible with Ninja V+ where as 4K ProRes is with regular Ninja) and yes, the 5.2 Canon VR Lens works with the R5C. 👍🔥

@robertcapello

2 жыл бұрын

@james lmk if you sell the A7S3!

@ValourTV

2 жыл бұрын

I sold my R5 with the intention to switch over to Sony but now that the R3 is out and the R5C is coming out I might stay with Canon. I just really wanted Canon to step their game up and innovate and not cripple their cameras so much. Sony seems to be doing a really good job at that. I am now looking to get the R3 and a C70 or R3 and R5C.I was looking into getting the FX3 and A7IV. How do you feel about your C70? Being that you have these cameras what would you do?

Really great review Gordon, especially the chart work highlighting the corner cutting going on in the R5 model. I was wondering are you able/allowed to upload some of the test footage so folks can see how the likes of Canon's RAW Lite and the XAVC codecs handle in post?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Not yet as it was a pre-production sample.

Amazing review. I always know I can come to your videos to find an indepth overview of what a new piece of kit can do with no real sources of error, as you always show what you are talking about, so we can also make our own conclusions. Keep this up! :)

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, it was a LOT of work!

Excellent Gordon as usual , thank you .👍

Gordon Lanig does among the best reviews on KZread in a fair and balanced way, and he has done so for years. This unlike clickbait places which have devolved such as "Tony and Chelsea" who now run in maximum clickbait mode, and Fro, who now aging and still stuck with a Fro, must appeal to showmanship and hype and sniffing equipment, like some camera porn maven. So, in a shitstorm of a world of formerly half-assed KZread reviews, now gone fully-assed Mr. Laing continues along in presenting quality information. He is a short form Dustin Abbott, but without the Canadian winter.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, I'm proud to be fully-assed!

@Marlow925

2 жыл бұрын

Funny that. Your description exactly describes my opinion of said channels :)

As always, the most thorough review.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou!

No IBIS, No full size HDMI. I guess they will keep it for Canon R1 with a higher price (which is their flagship camera) It’s part of the Canon marketing.

Excellent review and an interesting addition/upgrade (?) to the product line, It does seem to be pitched at an aggressive price point too.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, coming in under the Alpha 1 was a good move...

Awesome review like always, best, thank you!

You always do the best reviews and always answer all of my questions! Cheers to you Bro from Atlanta, GA. I have an R5 and just bought an Atomos to fix some of the my issues. But false color in camera and no more line skipped 4k and 4k60 is intriguing.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

The R5 is still amazing and with an Atomos you can get round a lot of the issues.

@presise1620

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs does the R5c (with its dual gain) get better ISO performance at 6400 than the R5?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

@@presise1620 I show this in the video, have you watched it?

@presise1620

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs I saw it. But I’m asking your personal opinion because others who tested the iso showed that they are the same.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

@@presise1620 I'd have to refer back to the results here. I've published nine videos since this one, so it's not fresh in my mind anymore, sorry! I tend to make a review then move onto the next one.

Great review Gordon! So, it appears we now have two cameras for two types of hybrid shooters. One is primarily for photographers who sometimes shoot video (R5), and the other is primarily for videographers who sometimes shoot stills (R5C). That segmentation is driven mostly - IMO - by the lack of IBIS. Otherwise, I could have completely replaced my R5 with the R5C.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty much it!

@vlcthefish

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs Do you think the lack of IBIS will make the 5.2mm VR shake worse when using a gimbal vs a regular R5? That said it has 8K 60FPS raw light which is very good though you can't wire by focus with a standard battery.

@vaskoobscura_

2 жыл бұрын

I had the exact same thought. If the R5c had IBIS I would have flipped my R5 for it.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

@@vlcthefish I have a feeling you can't - or shouldn't - use IBIS with the 5.2mm anyway, but I'd need to check.

@vlcthefish

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs Thanks. I know you the VR with 5.2 needs a gimbal(since VR can't have any shake) but even with the IBIS R5 but wondering if that had some benefit when on a gimbal.

thanks for the great review again. I was really waiting on that one to decide between the R5 or R5C, now I made up my mind and gonna order the R5 sadly.. the no ibis is a deal breaker for me as I shoot lots of photos at dusk/dawn and need the extra stab to lower the iso a bit or up the shutter speed etc.. but if I was more video centric it would be a no brainer for this price.. I'm a bit sad about the no ND filter or the rolling shutter still being pretty bad to be honest and I REALLY hope they'll push the eye AF for animals in a firmware update in video mode cos that's really crap.. I do wonder if they'll update the R5 though for vehicule auto focus since they implemented it into the R5C and it's only a software thing anyway..

@presise1620

2 жыл бұрын

for stills shooter the R5 is top 3 best cameras in the world. The bulkiness of the R5c will annoy you.

@professionalpotato4764

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately rolling shutter is a spec thats hard wired into the sensor right at the beginning when design was in progress. No amount of processing power can speed it past the limits.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, I understand why IBIS was removed for videographers BUT it is highly beneficial for stills.

Thanks. Apart from the culprit of the microHDMI connector, it's pretty much what I expected. Pre-order commencing.

Great job my friend love this review. So the fan can’t be turned off at all during recording?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, at least not on my pre-production unit BUT in Low mode, it is really really quiet.

Always the most logical and accurate reviews.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, that's what I aim for!

Imo you the best footage of externals of R5c, all other videos I saw was done in some sort of ambient or dim lighting. Thank you for amazing review of this really amazing camera (despite some downsides, such as micro hdmi).

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I decided to film my b-roll with a bright studio light against a plain background so I could stop-down the lens and not worry about having a nice blurred background!

Can you tell us if the AF is akin to the C70 in video mode, or more like the R5? The C70, in my experience, has extremely subpar autofocus performance compared to the Canon R5. Since Canon essentially is running two separate OSes, my concern is that the R5c has C70-level AF performance in video mode, which would be a non-starter for me. Can you tell us if that's the case? I watched your entire video, but perhaps I missed your comment on it. Thanks for your hard work on the review.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

I should have done some AF tests, but ran out of time. Anecdotally I found the Af was noticeably slower in movie mode than in photo mode, and slower than the R5 when that cameras is filming video. I could improve it by boosting the response and speed menus, but have a feeling it is slower overall. I'll try and follow-up with a final sample/

@9to5Mac

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs Thanks Gordon. I was afraid of that. So unfortunate, because Canon already had a GREAT system with the R5. This is a regression, in some ways, for video. Two steps forward, and two steps backward. Of course, some couldn't care less about AF, so this camera will be perfect for them, but as a one-person shooter 99% of the time, great AF, like on the R5, is a must.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

@@9to5Mac I agree, the R5C is for seasoned videographers who'll probably manually focus and sort out their own stabilisation, whereas the R5 is better-suited to smaller productions - like mine!

@TheHanleys1013

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat. The R5's AF is fast enough for me to shoot sports (in video mode). I'd be all over this R5c if it performs as well (AF-wise) in video mode as the R5. But if it's a step in the wrong direction, then it would be a waste of money for what I do.

@superlex2676

2 жыл бұрын

I been shooting motorsports video for the past year with the R5 and was really excited for the the R5c and pre-ordered it yesterday but canceled my pre-order after learning the R5c doesn't have all the same AF features in video 🤷‍♀️😢

Thank you, I will be ordering one. I appreciate this review. -Mike

Great hands on, thanks 🙏

Thank you for your video! I want to switch cameras but one of the most important things that catch my attention is the difference in the color. Do you have the same White Balance and the same settings and you have such different results? The r5 is way better as a color result comparing the r5c. Again thank you so much. I would appreciate any clarification on this.

@cameralabs

Жыл бұрын

As I recall, they had the same WB settings. Note when the R5c is filming video, it's using a different cinema OS

Well put together.

Great video. Although I was waiting for the vlogging test 😁

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha! I did film it, but it was already getting too long

@FabienMathey

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs I would love to see how good the digital IS really is. Because the Canon m6 2 is decent for some applications

A great video again! Due to me primarily shooting stills the R5 remains my camera to go.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Fine choice!

Solid review, much appreciated. I wonder when Canon will let go of 720p. Maybe it’ll be cool next year… like shooting film

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Bring back QVGA!

Awesome review. Thanks.

your lovely review made my decision intact to buy r5c

@cameralabs

9 ай бұрын

Glad to help!

Wow! Great review Mr. Lang. The R5C has just become the Godzilla of hybrid cameras. Even with the micro hdmi port, ( freaking CANON!!!! ), the R5C will kick as%, take names, and through competition camera bodies in a ditch.... Unbelievably awesome...As always, Mr. Lang, keep up the good work and keep'em flying. Your fan from the red planet...lol.

@MartianCitizen

2 жыл бұрын

Throw, not through....DOH! Voice recognition software sux.

Thank you for that review! One thing keeps coming into my mind, which is more general: why does industry try so hard to make a movie cam out of a stills camera and why do poeple not just buy a classic video cam (e.g. FDR-AX53) if they want to record videos? I've never heard one of these do overheat! Why do they seem not to play a role anymore, despite the fact that they do not have any of the downsides digital photo cameras still seem to suffer from?

Gordon, excellent job as always. I have been following your R3 and R5C reviews closely. I have used the R5 for a few videos projects and find the image being a little red which I have to correct in post-- during the video during the R5 vs R5C resolution comparison the R5 color seems a little red as well. Thoughts on this?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, I noticed that too AND the white balance was set to the same Kelvin value on both and under controlled lighting, so I'm not sure why. I'll look into it, but not sure I'll find an answer.

very hardworking! great review

Gordon, thanks for letting me use clips for my latest video. I think a lot of people are confused by the R5c and not sure who it's for or why its set up differently to the R5. You've done a good job of clearly looking at the benefits, and addressing the concerns of people interested in this camera. Congrats on getting the R5c in time for the announcement - A big coup!

Great review, but I think I'll go for the r5 if I'm ready to ditch my 5dmk4 because I only shoot still and for the 2 videos I make a year the c isn't worth it I think.

Great review. You explained it very easily

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great job as always Gordon. Is the 4K 120 slo-mo still line-skipped or has the quality improved from the R5?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

I did test 4k 120, but my results looked a bit worse than expected so I took them out until I get a final production.

@scottw6960

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs A Canon rep on B&H's channel confirmed it's line-skipped so same as R5

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottw6960 yes, I'd expect it to be similar to or same as the R5 in this regard.

Gordon, not only is your content consistently high quality, you're the only reviewer with the balls to literally throw Canon cameras around to show off slow motion. Straight badass. 🤪

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Hah! I did copy the idea from a video Jordan Drake did ages ago, but raised the stakes here with an R5!

Hi Gordon, great hands on review answering many questions. One other question: Is there a vertical UI just like the C70 when shooting in vertical?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Good question, but I'm not sure, I'll check on my follow-up.

do you know what amazes me?? is you actually answer people when they ask you questions. also you are unbiased. i must say. i know you are probably friends with Gearld Undone but, when he does a review. he never answers anyone and, if it doesn't say Sony on it. he finds a problem. i love watching your channel. glad you remember the people that got you here!!!!!!!!!!!

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I spend hours every day responding to comments here and on social! takes ages, but I think it's important.

Goodday Mr. Laing... Thank you for all your outstanding and honest reviews that I have read and seen... I hope I may ask you the following: do you remember if the Canon EOS R5C has the electronic level in the viewfinder/screen that the R5 has (in photo-mode...)?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

It has it in the photo mode, but I can't remember about the video mode.

@mavs8888

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs thank you very much... have a wonderful day!

Thank you for in depth review of this new R5C. It certainly looks bulkier than the R5 and is not weather seal due to those vents. It will a hard choice between the 2s.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you, but they do claim it's similarly-sealed. Not sure how the vents cope on these and other cinema cameras.

@vitaminb4869

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt those vents expose the camera internals.

This, with the 28-70 (which has no IS) will be a nightmare IMO at low shutter speed Regardless, EXCELLENT REVIEW. You sir, have just earned a new subscriber!

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, you'd want a big gimbal for that combo!

Thanks for the video! the micro HDMI is a reason to dont buy this camera

Thanks for the thorough review! Do other cameras have overheating issues? Great that the problem was addressed, but a fan, in itself, but that also bulks-out the camera, seems like an odd fix.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Overheating is a problem for most cameras that film high quality video, so in pro environments where it's a deal-breaker, they generally fit fans to cool them down. Most cinema cameras have fans.

Gordon, I read your reviews about 16 years ago before buying my first camera panasonic fz 27? something... Today after working in studios and video editing, and also testing hundreds of manual focus lenses I'm listening to your review again, but today its the Canon R5C) I need this camera! this seems like canons strong side, big beefy cameras, function over shape, and everything one might need included, (but can it shoot anamorphic?) oh sorry no ND is bad... but anyway im really excited about the super 16mm 2.8k , BROTHER! just slap a 500mm and boom, you can zoom in and out like a MANIAC :D

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, no anamorphic as far as I know, but I'll confirm.

Nice video, Just wondering is the USB-C continuous power only available on the R5C but not the R5 and the R6 or the R3?

It's easy to see how they are concentrating / targetting the YT/SM vlog market . Take a trek to Mach loop and film the Jets as they fly through ..

Hey Gordon, very nice video, thanks to share it. Out of curiosity: if you use both optical IS and Digital Standard con R5C, do you get better or worse stabilization than Sony A7 IV with both IBIS and optical IS? Thanks

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Impossible to tell without having them side by side under the same conditions.

Another very good review. I have the R5, which I really like, but I don’t care for video, so it suits me well. I think the R5C offers great value if you want both stills and video in one compact camera.

@philfyphil

2 жыл бұрын

I’m disappointed at the lack of IBIS though

@cornishblue58

2 жыл бұрын

@@philfyphil judging by the footage showing the combination of the digital and lens stabilisation it looked to give good results. And I guess those using video regularly would use a gimbal. Not that I do much video to know mind. To me the way it is a camera that will produce high quality stills and video for the price point is pretty good I think.

Thanks for the review Gordon! Does the menu system offer control over the fans in Photo mode or only Video? My use case is for long-exposure astrophotography.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

The fans aren't active in photo mode, but as someone who's also into astro, i wondered about the possibility of built-in cooling. Turns out it's nowhere near cold enough - you need refrigeration, not a fan.

Great review, Gordon. Thank you. I read the R5C has lower bit rates and would require less computing power to process than the R5, possibly less time to process, justifying the higher price to me! Do you agree? Some R5C key formats can be recorded to a SD card rather that CF Exxpress B (8k All-I, Raw 3K) . Bitrates: 8k HEVC= 540 Mbps (vs 1300 on the R5 ) . Would rather spend more on camera gear than on computing power and CFX cards. Thoughts anyone?

@cameralabs

10 ай бұрын

Actually lower bit rates may mean smaller files, but with higher compression that can be harder work for a computer to edit. But it can also depend on tge codec. Try to access files made with both cameras to compare on your computer

@steven871

10 ай бұрын

Good point you make about compression, Gordon. The only way to know is to try them both as you say. Will report if I can test. Cheers. @@cameralabs

Great detailed review as usual Gordon. How is the autofocus with video? Similar to the R5?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

No, sadly not, it appears to be slower and less featured. I want to test this properly in a follow-up video.

@rtfinklea

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs Oh wow. May be the biggest drawback of all. Standing by for your tests. Thanks for the quick response.

I think the overheating test you did was good but there are probably other specifics you should of accounted for such as room temp, camera temp at start-up and ending. Try outdoors in a tropical heat at 35 degrees and again elsewhere at 20 degrees, 10 degrees and 0 degrees. These are the kind of real-world tests that should be done, not just in the living room of your house. :)

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

For sure. Could be a while before we have any tropical heat in the Uk, especially in January. Plus having spent two days solid just doing over heating tests, I'd done enough for this video. As I mentioned, this is something the internet is good at ,as everyone will do it in their own environments soon enough. Mine was just a first look to get people started. Now it's over to the rest of them.

Sir awesome👍👍 camera _canon 2k22 best model

@Gordon Laing, Canon Europe also confirms that R5 has DPAF2 over DPAF1 on R5C and C70.. DPAF2 for stills, DPAF1 for video. Are the same between r5 and R5c R5c used the same AF as the R5 (Dual Pixel CMOS AF II) when in video mode and am VERY disappointed to find out that the R5c uses the same AF as the C70 (Dual Pixel CMOS AF with iTR AF X).

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

that makes sense judging from my casual AF tests so far. I'll delve into this more with a final model.

Its R5 my fav..i need to buy one..I definitely buy it in future 😀

Great review! Does it do dual record on video? Also does it do 240p in HD?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no

Another great review

I would have liked to retain IBIS. Great review.

Great detailed review with samples. Noticed that the camera shoots only 10 bit still images compared to 14 bit of R5? At least that is what the spec of B&H is telling. Is that true? If it is, no hybrid shooters will buy this camera at all. A massive lose of dynamic range will definitely be visible! Or was that just a mistake from B&H!

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect it was a mistake. But we can confirm when final models arrive.

Really exactly the Camera I was looking for and thanks for the in-depth review! I also was a bit disappointed about it now having IBIS at first, but then I remembered I was shooting on cameras without IBIS for the past 12 years and still managed to produce sharp portrait photos of moving models without it. Pretty amazing, isn't it? :-D My use case is filming complete concerts from beginning to the end while also doing a lot of portrait work with the 85 1.2 primarily. For the concerts, being able to film in 8k/60 for 2 hours and doing multiple "camera angles" in 4k with 4x or even full HD with 16x zoom for youtube is just amazing and exactly what I needed. And for portrait work, it is better in any regard than my EOS R, which is completely fine for me. I really wanted better AF than on the R as well as the resolution bump, which I got. Other video-centric alternatives from Sony can't give me that with their 12mp and while the Z9 looks great, there is nothing matching the RF 85 1.2 for portrait work on their side, which is my 90% lens. Thanks Gordon for the very early and detailed review of this camera!

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! Note the video AF is still to be tested, but the stills AF is very good.

@patrick.munich

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs Yes, I'm a bit worried about the Cinema OS with its DPAF I AF, which is unusable on the C70 in comparison to the R5, but if it's in between it would be fine and I think canon has to improve their Cinema OS first to cope with the possibilities the R5C has. But a more in-depth comparison between the R5 and the R5C in video mode would be appreciated!

so... now with 1.6 on the r5 - how would you compare the two?

thank you

I cant help but noticing how many GREAT photography cameras are judged on how well they shoot video. I know video has become so important, just not to me. So many of the cameras released in the last 2 years are outstanding photo cameras but were taking down a notch because of some issue shooting video. I shoot Sony(A9)and smile every time some youtuber whines about no picture profiles for video, I would have been very happy to shoot with a Canon R6 but folks went on about 30 min record limit and an occasional overheat in video. I am happy to see a camera like the R5C because as video resolutions become so high companies will have to make more dedicated video centric cameras and leave us photographers alone, 1 more thing FLIP SCREENS are better than articulating screens with 600mm lenses 🤣, yes I know I am old school and whining but that is my story and I am sticking to it✌

@patrickfitzgerald2861

2 жыл бұрын

You're right, of course, but the questions for the manufacturers are always the same: How many units can we sell, and how long will the model last? It's a real dilemma in these days of constant updates. For example, the "antique" Panasonic bridge cameras (FZ300, FZ2500), which are now nowhere near state of the art, have suddenly started selling again! How come? I'm not sure anyone knows. But regardless, if you have the cash, this camera will provide excellent results for both stills and video. . . just make sure to insure the damn thing! Finally, I find it hilarious that modern cameras might actually burst in to flames! That's not something anyone even imagined way back in the film days! 😎

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

sure, but this one is a video-first camera, so that's why the tests are video focused.

@TonyDae

2 жыл бұрын

The R5 and this r5c are marketed as being great at both, a9 isn't. I wouldn't knock a camera for doing what its supposed to do, and anybody complaining the a9 isn't a video camera needs to read spec sheets better. Since the r5 and r5c are both pushed by Canon as being video cameras, they deserve criticism when they don't deliver or praise when they actually do what's promised.

@longrider9551

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs great review as always Gordon

Hi Gordon, thanks for the great overview. I have a question please. Can you use a power bank on the R5C? If so what do you recommend Thanks, Cliff Colreavy

@cameralabs

Жыл бұрын

If it officially supports power delivery, you should be ok. I've only tried AC USB Power sources with it

Great presentation Gordon. After your video I preordered the R5C. I still have two questions, have you also compared the sharpness in 4k 120fps between the R5 and the R5C and is the dynamic range for the normal eye about the same between both bodies? Thank you for the really informative video.👍

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, the Dr looks similar for the same profiles. I did also compare 4k 120 and like the R5, it's softer than 'normal' 4k, but I'd like to retest final firmware to re-evaluate it.

@spector175

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameralabs I want to know your opinion on canon R5c . I have been c200 and Nikon D810 , D500 shooter . I got into an accident with c200 and had to sell it unfortunately. So looking to upgrade my gears totally, gonna sell my Nikon gears soon. I'm thinking about getting either canon r5c and r6/r5 or Sony fx3 and Sony a9iii(if it releases this year) else a9ii . I want to buy canon R5c (coz I already have a lot of ef lenses) but I'm worried that video af and dynamic range might not be as good as Sony fx3. I shoot weddings,events,fashion, sports.

Really informative! One lingering question: Did you notice if it can display a horizon level while recording?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Argh! I don't know and it's already been taken back to Canon-land!

Nice review. Reminds me of the S1H or the Sony FX3, but I guess neither of those have 8k. But really, who needs 8k? It's still priced well when you put it up against those two.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, i wonder how it will affect pricing of rival models now...

Well done!

Great review Gordon, have you tried the Canon RF-EF ND converter on this or the R5? It'd be good to know whether there are any colour issues, otherwise looks like a good solution to the lack of ND's, if you're still using EF lenses.

@cameralabs

Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried the ND, only the polarising one but I'm guessing it'll be pretty good.

how is the stabilization difference against the R5 (sensor stabilization) and internal microphone test difference

Thank you for the video.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Hi Gordon, which camera do you use for recording yourself, super clear. I think you are also an expert in light too.

@cameralabs

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I use a Sony A6400 and e 24mm f1.8, all listed in the description

Great review.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Good review! 👍

I am really thinking this may be my next camera. Coming from 5d Mk4. So I never had the joy of in body stabilization and I have been getting a lot more into video.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

If it's mostly for video, then the R5C is a good choice, but if its a mix, then do consider the R5.

I found R5 footage is to shaky and wobbly when filming in 8k . I wonder how it will be in R5C ?

Thanks for this. The one thing that makes this camera unsuitable for me is that you boot it up in video OR still. No switching quickly in the middle of action between video and still. Is that right?

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid so

Kudos bro 💪

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Not having IBIS is quite shocking, if they really want it to be a hybrid camera. Without IBIS you need an additional R5 just for stills, as IBIS is the main killer feature of mirrorless cameras.

@cameralabs

2 жыл бұрын

It is a real downside if you intend to use it for stills with unstabilised lenses.