Nostalgia Critic - Old Vs New: The Karate Kid

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Nostalgia Critic - Old Vs New: The Karate Kid

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  • @Alknix
    @Alknix10 жыл бұрын

    So it seems Jaden Smith could act as a kid, until Shyamalan got him.

  • @aceofspades304

    @aceofspades304

    10 жыл бұрын

    He....... has been shamalized!

  • @aceofspades304

    @aceofspades304

    10 жыл бұрын

    HA! nice!

  • @CrimsonShoryuken

    @CrimsonShoryuken

    9 жыл бұрын

    You lack discipline!

  • @hassantv100

    @hassantv100

    9 жыл бұрын

    New DEATH BATTLE: Michael Bay vs M. Shyamalan!!!!!!!!!!! What say all of you, which director sucks SUPAH HARD?!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @hassantv100

    @hassantv100

    9 жыл бұрын

    MaZINGErDeSTro Either way, they both lose on popularity, even if it's a DRAW?

  • @Typhlosion4President
    @Typhlosion4President10 жыл бұрын

    The remake loses just for taking out the "You're the best" song and replacing it with that fucking Justin Bieber Never Say Never bullshit.

  • @victordorantes722

    @victordorantes722

    10 жыл бұрын

    Actually after listening to "Dirty Harry" and "Higher ground" I was impressed, but Bieber killed that feeling.

  • @Abitscrewycreations

    @Abitscrewycreations

    10 жыл бұрын

    kay yeah that shit can't be lived down...

  • @NapoleonPicard

    @NapoleonPicard

    10 жыл бұрын

    I simply hate how right you are.

  • @RiverSpirit

    @RiverSpirit

    10 жыл бұрын

    I have to give that one to you. I liked both movies a lot, and at the end of the new one I was feeling happy and thinking it was a good movie....then Never Say Never came on and I was screaming to turn it off. Why did they have to ruin a feel good moment with a terrible song? Sigh...

  • @nintendoplayer07

    @nintendoplayer07

    10 жыл бұрын

    Never say never was in the movie? darn why!?!?!?!?! :(

  • @anarchistjesus7354
    @anarchistjesus73548 жыл бұрын

    "Oh bullshit. I'm going home man." I imagine Daniel just said what's on a lot of the viewer's minds here.

  • @kitziadelvalleflores9977

    @kitziadelvalleflores9977

    8 жыл бұрын

    +anyseattleteamfangamer same for me 2010 version is better cause it ends with never say never song by Justin Bieber

  • @maxtheaxeiswax
    @maxtheaxeiswax8 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if they remade Rocky, but his name was changed to George, yet it was still called Rocky.

  • @BrickBreakerXX

    @BrickBreakerXX

    8 жыл бұрын

    Georgy just doesn't have the same ring to it.

  • @goldenfoxy1426

    @goldenfoxy1426

    8 жыл бұрын

    +maxtheaxeiswax they kind of did that. The movie is the successor of rocky, but it is called creed.

  • @Tommyblueeyes

    @Tommyblueeyes

    8 жыл бұрын

    +maxtheaxeiswax hahahahhahah that was gold!

  • @KD_Smoove

    @KD_Smoove

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Golden Foxy but thatb makes no sense dumb ass because its not like they called it rocky or something

  • @sagesarrazine6270

    @sagesarrazine6270

    8 жыл бұрын

    or any other dumb name, like, I don't know...creed?

  • @SuperZero-nf6mk
    @SuperZero-nf6mk9 жыл бұрын

    One thing I didn't like about the new film was the ending song. WHY use a crappy Justin Bieber song!?

  • @codyssmith73

    @codyssmith73

    9 жыл бұрын

    SuperZero2552 Jayden Smith was in it for a cameo is why.

  • @SuperZero-nf6mk

    @SuperZero-nf6mk

    9 жыл бұрын

    Cody Smith That doesn't make sense. Because Jayden Smith was a cameo doesn't mean they should use a terrible song for a otherwise good film.

  • @codyssmith73

    @codyssmith73

    9 жыл бұрын

    SuperZero2552 Well, the song actually has a good message though, one that relates to the film. Plus, the cameo equals it making sense. The song isn't all that bad, even for JB IMO.

  • @SuperZero-nf6mk

    @SuperZero-nf6mk

    9 жыл бұрын

    Cody Smith I still think it's bad because it's JB.

  • @SuperZero-nf6mk

    @SuperZero-nf6mk

    9 жыл бұрын

    Statyk Elektricity Who is Phil Fish? And I've never played Fez.

  • @Derekivery
    @Derekivery9 жыл бұрын

    The only problem I have with the new Karate Kid is Jaden is so young. Daniel is a teenager, while Bullying is a serious issue for teens, it is reasonable to say that at Daniel's age if Bullies are missing with him, it's a little bit his job to figure out how to deal with them. IE it is a story about a boy becoming a man and learning how to deal with his own problems not running to mommy. While Dre's story falls a lot closer to a case of child abuse, it is a little boy who getting the piss beat out of him and his mother basically shrugs her shoulders saying "sucks to be you." At Dre's age it's his mom's job to solve the problem of kids bullying him. Look at "the Sixth Sense" the mom in that film couldn't even get sleep because she thought her son was getting beat up. Sure Dre man ups the same as Daniel and solves his own problem with the help of his new father figure... but the difference I can't get pass is Dre was so young, he shouldn't need to be a man. One Geek's Opinion

  • @MelquanKatz

    @MelquanKatz

    9 жыл бұрын

    I didn't run to my mommy at that age when I was bullied. I handled it myself. I was protective of my mom and never wanted her in any potential danger or even an argument. At the same time I had a teenage friend who ran to his parents when he had a problem bullied so it works both ways.

  • @Derekivery

    @Derekivery

    9 жыл бұрын

    MelquanKatz No that's not working both ways. As a child it is not your job to protect your parent from danger, it is her job to protect you. I guess it's nice that you could handle bullies on your own but if you could not handle them (like Dre) then it should fall to your parents to make sure you are safe. Your teen friend on the other hand was at the age where he needed to start handling issues on his own.

  • @MelquanKatz

    @MelquanKatz

    9 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Divery​ i think you misunderstood what meant by "works both ways" I meant some really young kids handle their own and some at an age where they should handle themselves, do not.

  • @Derekivery

    @Derekivery

    9 жыл бұрын

    MelquanKatz I understand that, but that has nothing to do with my problem with the New Karate Kid. I'm not saying "NO CHILD HAS EVER STOOD UP TO A BULLY and ALL TEENS HANDLE BULLIES ON THEIR OWN!" I'm saying if a child needs a parents help stopping a bully they are still at an age where THAT is okay. That is an age where if a parent sees their child coming home every day with bruises and black eyes, they can not be passive and just hope the kid figures it out on their own.

  • @MelquanKatz

    @MelquanKatz

    9 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Divery True but unfortunately some parents feel that's the way to prepare their child for the real world.

  • @ericniesen1775
    @ericniesen17758 жыл бұрын

    Newer is better crafted, older is more fun.

  • @melrakan

    @melrakan

    7 жыл бұрын

    I thought that the new one was just deeper, more nuanced, more thoughtful, had better actors and had a better overarching plot. The biggest problem with the new one is that it really would've been a much better film if it wasn't called "Karate Kid" or didn't try to emulate the original so much.

  • @amethyst_dawn

    @amethyst_dawn

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yup. Plus: Nostalgia Value.

  • @gamesincharacter5106

    @gamesincharacter5106

    4 жыл бұрын

    Amethyst_Dawn but they all tech a well thought out lesson for better or worse a one is emotionally deep sorta dark other is light hearted and fun. Great movies from great actors and directors

  • @mariodelrio2387

    @mariodelrio2387

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@amethyst_dawn Nostalgia? What is even nostalgia?

  • @YourMajesty143
    @YourMajesty1439 жыл бұрын

    Miyagi DOES explain why he wanted Daniel to do these errands. He's a man of few words. Rather than explain, he shows him. He asks him to show him wax on, wax off & then proceeds to attack him as Daniel uses these movements to block the attacks. He asks him to also do the other moves as he attacks. Daniel makes the connection, and as Miyagi sends blow after blow, Daniel's muscle memory kicks in as he blocks the combo of attacks. The work's repetition is important as to show that Daniel was not only building strength, but also reflex instincts. In the New Karate Kid, the lesson didn't offer strength building, just repetition. Eventually Miyagi explains the importance of learning balance, not just physically but also finding balance in life. Both teachers offer good lessons, each in their own way. However, I doubt that you watched the Old version bc you seem to have missed Miyagi's explanations. Also Miyagi's pain stems from the loss of his wife & son, his day-to-day life shows he has moved on but that he still mourns on their anniversary. He's a much better model of what his martial arts stand for--balance of anguish and peace--and is therefore a more reliable teacher. When he teaches Daniel that karate is "here...and here...not here" (pointing to his head, heart, and belly, respectively), he's expressing what Daniel eventually begins to learn, which is that focus and understanding--not guttural anger--are keys to karate. Movies from back in the day had confidence in the audience's intelligence & didn't waste time having to explain every little thing. In new movies, you see this lack of trust happening often with each scene having to spell it out. The fact that the old movie uses less words to state the obvious is a poor excuse for why its teacher isn't as adequate as the new versions'. I will agree that the new one showing the teacher learning from his student is a nice dimension to the character, but it has little bearing on who is a better teacher. The winning move in the old version came from Miyagi himself, whereas the winning move in the new movie gives no credit to the teacher. It's more realistic to say that Miyagi won the head to head.

  • @teegee87

    @teegee87

    9 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad somebody else said this. But I agree that Chan's character is more engaging because he also learns from Dre. I also like Miyagi is a character overall much better. But Han has better development.

  • @andrewthomas3467

    @andrewthomas3467

    9 жыл бұрын

    Miyagi > Han anyday

  • @athenapictures

    @athenapictures

    9 жыл бұрын

    ^ don't fuck with Jackie Chan. He'll kick your ass with a ladder... Or a couch... While having his hands tied

  • @AshNorton

    @AshNorton

    9 жыл бұрын

    YourMajesty143 Excellent observations, all of them. Intelligent with well marshaled evidence. Critic made a trite joke at the expense of (as Mr. Miyagi would say) "focus".

  • @nelsonwarner1032

    @nelsonwarner1032

    9 жыл бұрын

    You also have to take into account the tragic stories of being in internment camps during WWII. The 442nd regiment is nothing to gloss over. Being composed of Japanese soldiers while their families were under American armed surveillance they fought in Europe and are still the most decorated unit in US military history. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_%28United_States%29 Also Mr. Miyagi taught very similarly to how Japanese teachers usually teach. I lived in Japan for two years and if you ask them a question they will often say "do this" and show you rather than give a straight answer. It's a different in culture.

  • @Lamadredetuamigo
    @Lamadredetuamigo8 жыл бұрын

    What Doug didn't clarify is that Miyagi lost his wife and unborn child due to them being in an internment camp (health care wasn't that great in those actually) because of their race (being Japanese) in WWII. Even after serving the USA he lives in a country which let their most loved ones die. I know this isn't explicitly said, but you can hint his inner conflict during the film.

  • @VeraTepes
    @VeraTepes10 жыл бұрын

    See, I like Nostolgia Critic. it doesn't feel like he picks a Single Side, but puts his heart into both sides. I've seen a few vs episodes, where they did All for one side. Sonic vs Flash. Flash got every vote from the guy. While Nostolgia Critic kept it even for the most part. That is what I like about VS vids. When people know what they are talking about and put their heart into it.

  • @shadow12770

    @shadow12770

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for typing this. All I've been reading is how the new movie 'suck' and arguments escalating to human philosophy.

  • @VeraTepes

    @VeraTepes

    9 жыл бұрын

    Dezmond Essex No worries. He mentioned Super Sonic, but even then, Flash got the vote. You'd think Super Sonic = Instant Vote. Aw well. Humans are stupid.

  • @shadow12770

    @shadow12770

    9 жыл бұрын

    We'll not all humans are stupid. This coming from a the teenchild that is myself. I kind get why flash won. Popularity and a bunch of other things. Sonic could stand a chance and with chaos emeralds would help. I'm trying to phrase this carefully so I don't offend anyone and start a flame war.

  • @VeraTepes

    @VeraTepes

    9 жыл бұрын

    Dezmond Essex You won't get a flame war from me, my friend. Maybe the other people who want people to argue and fight. But I like peace.

  • @jasminewhite7119

    @jasminewhite7119

    9 жыл бұрын

    Even though I disagree, I still understand why he thinks new version is better than the old.

  • @dynasxv
    @dynasxv9 жыл бұрын

    I must disagree with the critic here. Firstly, Mr Miyagi vs Mr Han. Mr Miyagi also explains the reason for the excercises, he just does it more subtly. Everything about Mr Miyagi is more subtle as opposed to Mr Han who plainly states everything. This is a common problem these days, filmmakers have treated the audience like idiots for so long that noone values subtlety anymore. They'd rather have everything spelled out for them. Also, I find Mr Miyagi's backstory much more sympathetic than Mr Han. Mr Han caused their deaths so it's harder to feel sorry for him whereas Mr Miyagi didn't even get to be with his wife when she died and was powerless to stop it. It's true, Daniel is like a surrogate son to him but there's another aspect not many people notice. They parallel each other. Both have feelings of powerlessness in their lives which causes them to almost give up entirely, Mr Miyagi with the loss of his wife and child (and the stuff in the 2nd movie) and Daniel with the bullies. It is only after they come together and support each other that they find peace. Daniel beats the bully and Mr Miyagi has a something of a human connection again with Daniel as his surrogate son. As I said, much more subtle and much better than Mr Han. Secondly, the villains, maybe it's their ages but I just see the new as a little brat who, while annoying and stuck up, doesn't really pose much of a threat, i mean come on, he's just a little kid! The old is much more threatening due to his age where he actually could be dangerous and by having the teacher as the insane one, you get a more realistic and sympathetic antagonist. You can see it at times in his eyes that he's doubting his actions but he's been indoctrinated by his teacher and he knows he'd have hell to pay if he stops. Much better in my opinion. So that's 2 points stripped from the new and given to the old meaning the winner is the old.

  • @ThreeLions82

    @ThreeLions82

    9 жыл бұрын

    dynasxv That's because fans these days need everything spelled out for them sadly.

  • @payasoloco6282

    @payasoloco6282

    9 жыл бұрын

    To be fair he's saying in his previous old vs new It's all opinion base he's not saying It's all fact.. tho he also said he's 100% cause he's in the internet and anything from the internet is right.. then said nananana weird

  • @thebiggamers999

    @thebiggamers999

    9 жыл бұрын

    dynasxv how mr han explains it is more to real life........

  • @thebiggamers999

    @thebiggamers999

    9 жыл бұрын

    ShadowBlaze 234 that is bullshit since no karate/kung-fu master does that shit because it is ineffective

  • @TheGoldcountry

    @TheGoldcountry

    9 жыл бұрын

    thebiggamers999 Bullshit. Many exercises are done in support of specific moves.

  • @TheZajicekfarber
    @TheZajicekfarber9 жыл бұрын

    The one thing I gotta disagree with here is that I think Jayden has a much harder time and more at stake than Ralph. Yeah, kids are a lot more serious and aggressive in high school, but Ralph is still just a white kid in a white high school. Jayden is the only American (and black) kid in this entirely Asian school in China. It's one thing to be a social outcast, but he's more of a literal outcast here- he can't even speak the language. Plus, I don't know how many years of high school Ralph had left, but he'll be done and likely never have to see any of those kids again in a few years; Jayden will likely have to deal with these kids for at least the next 5 years.

  • @buckwadecaanan8447

    @buckwadecaanan8447

    9 жыл бұрын

    yeah thinking back I wonder why in the classic bullies picked on the kid. I researched that in China a lot of dark skinned people, particularily africans, face racism, so the remake from my memory does seem to give a better explanation

  • @jcast39atmsn

    @jcast39atmsn

    9 жыл бұрын

    Wesley Farber However I would think the issue again is his age. If jaden had been slightly older then it would have made more sense. But instead it seems more like a forced plot.

  • @kungfuman82

    @kungfuman82

    9 жыл бұрын

    As much as I dislike the remake (which may have more to do with nepotism than the actual movie), you have a point. Dre was as much a fish out of water as you could get. Daniel should have experienced that on Okinawa but didn't because KK2 operated on sci-fi logic and everyone spoke English.

  • @InkHeart17
    @InkHeart1710 жыл бұрын

    I think the chores for Daniel were about muscle memory. He was working at a specific job (making things cleaner or better) while unknowingly learning the technique, instead of just working up a sweat by exercising. Hanging up a coat? Still muscle memory (and a philosophy lesson), but nothing really gets done.

  • @Powboy236
    @Powboy23610 жыл бұрын

    holy s*** i just realized, the new karate kid isn't teaching karate at all... it's freakin' "KUNG FU" from China! so that does beg the question, why is the remake called the "karate" kid if it's not actually displaying karate moves which should be from Japan.

  • @EldricVanguard

    @EldricVanguard

    10 жыл бұрын

    Originally, Kung Fu is Karate, but the japanese took it and reformed it to Karate, which, although is not as fluid and stylish as Kung Fu, is more firm and direct than the former. Go look up the origins of Karate for more info.

  • @lightishred8939

    @lightishred8939

    10 жыл бұрын

    Besides paying homage to the movie it's based off? Anyways, *The Kung Fu kid* doesn't sound nearly as nice.

  • @2wingo

    @2wingo

    10 жыл бұрын

    At some point, Dre claims to know a little bit of Karate, and is mockingly dubbed "karate kid" by . . . someone, I can't remember who.

  • @antiqueChairman

    @antiqueChairman

    10 жыл бұрын

    Good question! And actually, while working on it, according to Jackie Chan, the cast did refer to it as "The Kung Fu Kid", and in China this movie was released as The Kung Fu Dream (and sometimes referred to as Karate Kid 5). Sony even considered retitling it The Kung Fu Kid, but producer Jerry Weintraub disagreed and insisted on The Karate Kid. And who is Jerry Weintraub? Why, he was (also) the producer of the *original* The Karate Kid. So, in short? It's called The Karate Kid for the same reason the original was called The Karate Kid, which is because Weintraub said so.

  • @DaShonuff

    @DaShonuff

    10 жыл бұрын

    Kung Fu and karate are the same thing just taught differently in philosophy. Karate simply means Empty hand and was originally meant Chinese Hand. Japan/China barrows from one another respectively when adapting their martial arts.

  • @dakotanelson8523
    @dakotanelson85239 жыл бұрын

    I can think of a remake that was better than the original. Dredd.

  • @GriffinPilgrim

    @GriffinPilgrim

    9 жыл бұрын

    Dakota Nelson Very true, though the case could be made that it's not so much a remake as a different adaption of a separate source material.

  • @thetigerking2971

    @thetigerking2971

    9 жыл бұрын

    And that is a reboot

  • @jackedude2536

    @jackedude2536

    9 жыл бұрын

    Dakota Nelson THE LAW!

  • @RubbelisPro
    @RubbelisPro9 жыл бұрын

    ORIGINAL MOVIES ALWAYS. Why the hell is it even called "The Karate Kid" if the remakes take place in China lmao?

  • @SonofMrPeanut

    @SonofMrPeanut

    9 жыл бұрын

    The Fly, The Ten Commandments, The Thing and Ocean's Eleven are remakes that can reasonably be considered superior to their originals, to name a few.

  • @GriffinPilgrim

    @GriffinPilgrim

    9 жыл бұрын

    Adam I disagree. While originals obviously have, well, originality and remakes are often cynical cash-in attempts there are some remakes that surpass their inspiration. Some are able to improve on spectacle based films through advances in technology (Peter Jackson's King Kong), others by having a more complete grasp of the concept (the Jeff Bridges True Grit, the Nolan Batman films) and finally some are just straight up better made (Casino Royale, Captain America: The First Avenger). It is somewhat rare, as it's a lot easier to churn out cheap trash with a marketable name, but it does happen.

  • @andrewtuell1991

    @andrewtuell1991

    9 жыл бұрын

    SonofMrPeanut I agree with all those as well as the 1990 Night of the Living Dead being infinitely superior to that... thing from 1968.

  • @donquixote5927

    @donquixote5927

    9 жыл бұрын

    Adam umm dude what do you mean "Why the hell is it even called "The Karate Kid" if the remakes take place in China lmao?" The fact that they call it the karate kid and that the new movie takes place in china don't really have any thing to do with each other. I think you meant why its called the karate kid if, in the remake, he learns kung fu.

  • @RubbelisPro

    @RubbelisPro

    9 жыл бұрын

    kung fu is different from karate fam

  • @justfunriley1043
    @justfunriley104310 жыл бұрын

    I can see both in the sense that they have good elements, like Doug said; however, as Doug said, the new one has more of a consistent tone. The second one, I believe, is much better than the original. I felt like they have more chemistry in the second one, while the original is very one-sided. I just feel like I was more interested with the second one than the first one. I've watched both and enjoyed both, but I would rather watch the new one again. Again, just my opinion.

  • @StrogenZalec9456

    @StrogenZalec9456

    10 жыл бұрын

    I agree with that. I pretty much grew up to the old movie, but the new one seems more balanced, as Doug said.

  • @Destroyha1
    @Destroyha110 жыл бұрын

    When this movie came out, I was excited to see it. Anything with Jackie Chan in it, is bound to be badass, and just like you said Nostalgia Critic, "MR. HAN CAN HOLD FUCKING FIRE IN HIS HANDS!!! THAT'S JUST AWESOME!!!"

  • @Destroyha1

    @Destroyha1

    10 жыл бұрын

    FUCK YEAH!!! Can that seriously be a thing?!?! Please Obama, choose Jackie Chan as your replacement! =)

  • @n.o.s748
    @n.o.s7487 жыл бұрын

    At 13:39, did I just hear him say,"As much as I love deez nuts"?

  • @MadameTamma
    @MadameTamma10 жыл бұрын

    this is the first Old vs New that the Nostalgia critic ever did that I agree with on every point and I'm not taking that back. I said it, I meant it, and I'm here to represent it.

  • @symphonyofaria
    @symphonyofaria8 жыл бұрын

    Having karate kid in china is stupid. Karate isn't from china. It's from japan. That's why miyagi is Japanese

  • @symphonyofaria

    @symphonyofaria

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** Well...calling something kung fu is even more dumb than having karate kid in china. Kung Fu or, more accurately in Mandarin, Gung Fu means any discipline that requires time, patience and training. So Jaiden Smith being Kung Fu kid could very well be a doctor in training. xD

  • @symphonyofaria

    @symphonyofaria

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TDLM Chinese Martial Arts is referred to in Mandarin as wushu. What you're using is the bastardised version by the conquering brits who refuse to understand the Chinese whom the conquered. In basic terms, you guys didn't even steal the right word from our language

  • @symphonyofaria

    @symphonyofaria

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** I don't blame modern english speaker for not knowing yeah? Many chinese speakers don't even really realise.

  • @Hiraghm

    @Hiraghm

    8 жыл бұрын

    bear those words in mind... "conquering brits".

  • @clb6675

    @clb6675

    7 жыл бұрын

    Acer Ng That's exactly what I was going to say

  • @00WhiteBlade
    @00WhiteBlade8 жыл бұрын

    I agree. good job, doug. most inaccurate ratings on rottentomatoes ever.

  • @proudtobeme1ashkente

    @proudtobeme1ashkente

    8 жыл бұрын

    Wait, are you talking about 'Master of Disguise'?

  • @00WhiteBlade

    @00WhiteBlade

    8 жыл бұрын

    P. Roud Tobi Mi No, Karate Kid. The new Karate Kid got around 65%, the old one got about 95% I would put them both at about 75%, but the new one should be about 78%.

  • @proudtobeme1ashkente

    @proudtobeme1ashkente

    8 жыл бұрын

    00WhiteBlade Oh, I thought you were talking about the ratings themselves being bad and not the fact that the ratings are too low.

  • @brittanyschuffenecker681

    @brittanyschuffenecker681

    8 жыл бұрын

    the original straight classic there were things done and said in that movie we will never see again on the big screen because people are no longer free to be honest. why the remake is a politically correct version for people with add

  • @00WhiteBlade

    @00WhiteBlade

    8 жыл бұрын

    @P. Roud Tobi Mi Oh okay :D There i fixed it. i guess it was confusing.

  • @themartialnerd3286
    @themartialnerd32868 жыл бұрын

    I'd argue that the older one is better because of the age thing. When you're a kid nothing really madders all that much, because you still have so much time to adapt and live your life ahead of you. When you're a teen you're taking the final steps to becoming the person you'll be for the rest of your life so what you do is more important. also an 11 year old romance is hardly anything u can get invested in. and I don't buy that an 11 year old would pick up the psychological aspect of kung fu after seeing it once, done to a snake, or that he would be able to deal with all these adult situations so well. Really all my complaints would be solved if the actor was a teenager.

  • @SilentBudgie

    @SilentBudgie

    8 жыл бұрын

    That's why he gave the old a point for having the better Daniel character.

  • @mewtwomotherfuka

    @mewtwomotherfuka

    8 жыл бұрын

    Actually my dad did NOT want to see the new one. But i really wanted to see the new one so we went. My dad was amazed and said it was better then the original.

  • @billybarnett9518

    @billybarnett9518

    8 жыл бұрын

    Then you don't know kids nowadays, they start dating too early now.

  • @DanielJTeichroew

    @DanielJTeichroew

    7 жыл бұрын

    Patrick Quinn I think you mean matters , not madders

  • @SilentBudgie

    @SilentBudgie

    7 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Teichroew The OP also misspelled I'd, when, you're, you, your, you'll, what, I, and don't.

  • @clinteldorado
    @clinteldorado8 жыл бұрын

    If you watch the movie again you'll see that the motions Daniel-san was making when painting the fence, waxing the car, sanding the patio etc are the same motions he ended up making when practicing karate: blocking punches, etc. It didn't need him to actually explain it because filmmakers in the '80s didn't treat their audiences like morons like they do nowadays. It also taught him the importance of hard work, responsibility and patience, which is what those pricks from the Cobra Kai gym didn't get taught, hence their behaviour.

  • @JunFan777

    @JunFan777

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, this exactly. To be a sushi chef in Japan u apprentice doing nothing but making the rice for a year or more. It's having your fundamentals down cold, down to muscle memory, that allow you to be great at anything. If he simply told him what each movement was he would be distracted by thinking how to apply them before he had the movements down. I grew up in the 80s so the original will always be my favorite. But I will admit that the remake shockingly good and I can understand the argument for it being better.

  • @Rathtrainer

    @Rathtrainer

    8 жыл бұрын

    Also, Miyagi give Daniel one of the cars. So he gets rewarded for his work.

  • @Hiraghm

    @Hiraghm

    8 жыл бұрын

    Bingo!

  • @StealthMarmot_

    @StealthMarmot_

    7 жыл бұрын

    That's not what he meant by explaining WHY he taught him that way. Basically, why wax the car when he could just practice the block over and over again? Jackie Chan explains it by stating that everything you do can be practice for Kung Fu, and the same motions you practice in Kung Fu can make you better at doing every day things. It's not just practicing how to fight, it is practicing how to move in every aspect of your life. Miyagi never explained that, he just had the kid wax the car over and over, which I argue isn't necessarily a good method, and never explained why he did it that way, at least not in a straightforward manner. Now, given that the kid is a lot younger in the remake, it makes sense that he would be straightforward because otherwise it might go over the kid's head. I can understand why Miyagi would be a little more subtle.

  • @Hiraghm

    @Hiraghm

    7 жыл бұрын

    Because if you just "go through the motions" you don't condition the muscles at all. Waxing the car offers resistance to the arm and hand and back muscles.

  • @Maxyshadow
    @Maxyshadow10 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only person sick of them trying to push Jaden Smith on us as some sort of star? And the new movie's just a money grab using the success of the old one.

  • @sonicjrjr14

    @sonicjrjr14

    10 жыл бұрын

    Not really. He's only been in like 3 movies.

  • @Maxyshadow

    @Maxyshadow

    10 жыл бұрын

    sonicjrjr14 I can think of at least 4 movies straight off plus I guess numerous TV appearances.

  • @Justmyhandle
    @Justmyhandle9 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe I knew nothing about this cartoon before (like an old Jackie Chan Adventures, ugh). I have to go with NC on this one. Even though the original will always be great on its own, the remake just applies superior structure and puts more time into building up the story, which only makes the finale that much more satisfying. It largely improved on what worked before. And of course, while there will NEVER be another Pat Morita, it was really obvious in his fight scenes that they were choreographed. It's still awesome, but there's just no way an unarmed old man is going to beat a group of physically fit high schoolers that easily. Also, I have to agree that Jackie's lessons made more sense. He's just more experienced in martial arts philosophy, choreography, and has decades of actual experience. Morita never studied Karate, he only learned the moves necessary for the films. The psychology behind both teachers' deceptive training methods involves how, when performing everyday tasks without focusing on the task itself because it's so routine, one will naturally put more effort into getting it done, unlike martial arts where new students often get distracted by thinking too much about the move itself. When you know you're doing Karate or Kung Fu, especially when you're young, your mind tends to fixate on that. Once you develop proper muscle memory through repetition though, it gradually gets easier to refine the technique, applying that same mood of being used to it. As for the love interests, I would definitely go with the young Elisabeth Shue, not just because of her looks but her depth and charm with Ralph Macchio. Wenwen Han was likable, but had virtually no chemistry with Jaden Smith. Also, while I think it's somewhat unfair to fault characters' ages, I couldn't help feeling like most of them were too young to be interacting with such feelings. The high school setting was just more believable. The moms were okay, not Oscar worthy in either version, but Taraj P. Henson did come off over the top at points to where you knew she was playing a part and not genuinely investing into the character. And THANK YOU, someone else finally pointed out the title. Calling it The Kung Fu Kid wouldn't have fooled anyone from knowing it was a remake or reboot of The Karate Kid! It just makes no sense in context of this version's plot to call it that.

  • @VixXstazosJOB

    @VixXstazosJOB

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Keith Harris about the _muscle memory_ thing you explained, now i like how that's also explained by the most powerfull being ever in whole DRAGON BALL _master of god of destruction_ *WHISS* lol, if even a freaking god itself explain you how and why that's actually important at fighting then it must be freaking true... so in the end Miyagi's way makes total sense and it freaking rules though XD

  • @Justmyhandle

    @Justmyhandle

    8 жыл бұрын

    VixXstazosJOB I agree that it's awesome and perhaps equally effective, but I still personally favor Jackie's method. He taught Jaden Smith a whole routine of moves just from how he put on and took off a jacket, painfully simple. Pat Morita used several different more exhausting tasks (waxing car, painting fence, etc) to teach Ralph Macchio his techniques one at a time, all of which were truthfully pretty basic. I guess it comes down to personal preference, but either way, it's an ingenious tactic :)

  • @SpiderandMosquito

    @SpiderandMosquito

    8 жыл бұрын

    I just commented earlier too on the changing the name of the title would be stupid because to me the Kung Kid sounds like a parody directed by Friedberg and seltzer. though I'm not exactly fully in agreement with the girlfriend. not that the original wasn't better it's just that I disagree about the new one I think they were adorable and yes they are actually had a bit of chemistry but that was just me.

  • @OdinDOUCS
    @OdinDOUCS9 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how Nostalgia Critics fans are actually more intellectual than all the other channels fans

  • @nicolasclark3604

    @nicolasclark3604

    9 жыл бұрын

    That's because we watch somebody intelligent. Sure he has his rants and swears a lot, but NC still proves points without sounding like an idiot. There are other channels that do similar things in that they have reviews and/or comparisons, but they may just come across as being an idiot or rude or ignorant.

  • @gagethoreson3902

    @gagethoreson3902

    9 жыл бұрын

    ikr.

  • @desidarlingly

    @desidarlingly

    9 жыл бұрын

    I doubt that, especially considering your poor grammar. This video's comments are littered with childish behavior.

  • @nicolasclark3604

    @nicolasclark3604

    9 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like someone doesn't believe in outliers.

  • @desidarlingly

    @desidarlingly

    9 жыл бұрын

    Nicolas Clark Outlier suggests that it's not typical. Also, I have to disagree about NC proving points without sounding like an idiot. This dude constantly resorts to screaming, throwing tantrums, and other immature, hyperbolic behavior.

  • @njintau
    @njintau8 жыл бұрын

    Say what you will about both movies but grant me this: the car story arc in the new movie was the best. It really made me tear up when Mr. Han started smashing the car after repairing it the whole year before and then explain why he did it.

  • @shizaunilicious
    @shizaunilicious10 жыл бұрын

    John Creese, the original instructor from KK 1 was pissed because he was a Vietnam veteran. His friends died in battle and the USA eventually pulled out of the war. He felt like he wasn't able to finish the job so that's why he always says mercy if for the weak and wants Johnny to 'finish the job.' He also sees Miyagi as an Asian and therefore, resembling one of the people he wasn't allowed to fight to the death during the war.

  • @shizaunilicious

    @shizaunilicious

    10 жыл бұрын

    That's why sensie JOhn Creese creates Cobra Kai when he returns home. He's essentially building his old army unit again in the California valley. His character is totally psychotic and is probably suffering from PTSD. Truly a dangerous man.

  • @BigDaddyZakk420
    @BigDaddyZakk42010 жыл бұрын

    I hated the new Karate Kid...so much.

  • @Sick_Sara

    @Sick_Sara

    10 жыл бұрын

    And then you see the credits... And you hear Bieber. Worst Karate Kid ending ever. I liked the movie until that part.

  • @BigDaddyZakk420

    @BigDaddyZakk420

    10 жыл бұрын

    Sonus Hahah, didn't notice that part. I just resented the acting of the kid in the movie, he just seemed so hollow and contrived. I don't hold anything against the people that do like it but it wasn't for me.

  • @stoy1000

    @stoy1000

    10 жыл бұрын

    ***** He's an annoying little prick

  • @ellnats

    @ellnats

    10 жыл бұрын

    yeah, BUT JAKIE CHAN CAN HOLD FIRE!!!

  • @ellnats

    @ellnats

    10 жыл бұрын

    master of martial arts

  • @CrunkKrow
    @CrunkKrow9 жыл бұрын

    The music from the first Karate kid was amazing The music from the new "Karate" Kid was some of the WORST

  • @Charisonic_558

    @Charisonic_558

    9 жыл бұрын

    You just didn't like the Bieber song at the end right?

  • @CrunkKrow

    @CrunkKrow

    9 жыл бұрын

    Charisonic558 Yea it wasn't inspiring or fitting for the movie at all

  • @timidfelidae2108

    @timidfelidae2108

    9 жыл бұрын

    CrunkKrow though the musical score was pretty effective, you gotta admit it. From master to student to master still is one of my favorite soundtracks

  • @concord327

    @concord327

    9 жыл бұрын

    CrunkKrow no actually some of the music in the old karate kid is pretty bad- there are songs that are trying to sound like pop songs that are on soundtrack but not actual radio songs. I think Bill Conti wrote them. they're so generic but they say exactly whats going on in the scene.

  • @concord327

    @concord327

    9 жыл бұрын

    concord327 Cruel Summer is good though always gives me chills when i hear that song

  • @Destroyha1
    @Destroyha110 жыл бұрын

    You forgot the deleted scene at the end of the new one where the Asian teacher attacks Mr. Han, and Mr. Han kicks his ass. THAT PART FUCKING ROCKED!!!

  • @papershadow

    @papershadow

    10 жыл бұрын

    That scene would've been awesome, but I believe the reason they chose to leave it out was because it would overshadow the spirit of the win.

  • @Destroyha1

    @Destroyha1

    10 жыл бұрын

    papershadow69 Yeah, I hear ya.

  • @loronlew3233

    @loronlew3233

    10 жыл бұрын

    To be honest, I liked them both, but you can't really compare the two since one learns Karate and the other learns Kung fu. What I think would be awesome is if they made a sequel. Why? Because, I feel as though even though it ended. It seemed more like the beginning for Jaden's Character. The original became strong and his power seems more like Ryu from street fighter, while Jaden seemed more like Ken,,. Now if they got an older actor to play the original meeting Jaden in a sequel. That would be awesome! I know the timelines are different when the movies were made. But it doesn't mean the time line has to be off too much since Jaden was in China.

  • @OmniTerror

    @OmniTerror

    10 жыл бұрын

    Loron Liu Then in a Seuqel M.Bison should appear YES YES

  • @loronlew3233

    @loronlew3233

    10 жыл бұрын

    OmniTerror The poor kid wouldn't even stand a chance... Ryu can barely beat Bison, and Ryu is so buff, his neck muscles go straight to his shoulders. lol I don't think that will work O.o;

  • @drawmaster77
    @drawmaster7710 жыл бұрын

    I liked the new one way more than old. Old may be good, but its clearly aged, and just looks cheesy today

  • @shinryuvirus9987

    @shinryuvirus9987

    10 жыл бұрын

    aging isn't really its fault

  • @syphonfilter8372

    @syphonfilter8372

    9 жыл бұрын

    The new one's cheesy as well. It's a cheesy story.

  • @artsyafroqueen
    @artsyafroqueen8 жыл бұрын

    I have to say I agree, I saw the old on TV once and immediately fell in love. Every time it comes on, I make it my business to watch it and I've seen all of the sequels even though 3 and 4 are not very good. I think it's very good but very much an 80s film. Whereas the 2010 one (while should have been called "Kung Fu Kid" but I guess "Karate Kid" just sounds better) has a lot of stronger elements to it, some of them being the way the villains are handled, Mr. Han (Don't get me wrong Miyagi is iconic and always will be. That dude is awesome), the tone among other things. I think a lot of people's problems with the newer version is the fact that it's a remake. Remakes are not all bad, this one was actually good.

  • @SlowBurnAngel

    @SlowBurnAngel

    8 жыл бұрын

    I agree. I thought I would hate it, but I ended the movie thinking it was a shame they had to connect it to an old classic. Had it had it's own name "inspired" by another thing, people would have an easier time seeing it's qualities.

  • @GrimRussian

    @GrimRussian

    8 жыл бұрын

    No, my problem with the remake is that it is an inferior film in every respect. Check out the 36-minute comparison of two films on my channel. I pretty much created this channel because this Nostalgia Critic "review" pissed me off ;)

  • @DaShonuff
    @DaShonuff10 жыл бұрын

    Im sorry Nostalgia Critic but I have to disagree with you on the notion that Miyagi and his Karate lessons. This was a scripting trick to put us as the audience in Daniels shoes. Yeah he could have simply told him how and why or just straight taught him the moves. But There is a reason why he didn't. See, The Director had to dispel everyone's preconceived notions about karate and training. Karate is an ancient art that has been taught for centuries. The philosophy behind the Martial Arts is that its everywhere and everything. At first we don't understand because our preconceived notion is that to learn karate you simply are shown and taught but it goes deeper than that. The way it was done makes Daniel appreciate Karate and shows him that its not just a tool to just beat someone up. It is truly an art, and in turn we appreciate it. It has a much bigger impact on the audience than him just going straight into the training montage which happens later. We end up respecting Miyagi as a teacher and in turn respect him just like Daniel started to. The New Karate Kid does try to do this with the Jacket but even though he explains why, the impact is loss because he tells him after showing him when he loses his patience. He didn't let it sink in first. Humans are visual creatures and we are more stimulated when we see the answers instead of being told. We tend to believe what we see rather than what we are told. Because of this I think Miyagi should have got the point for Old.

  • @theXramoneXpistolsXP

    @theXramoneXpistolsXP

    10 жыл бұрын

    "the impact is loss because he tells him after showing him when he loses his patience." To be fair, this happens in both films. They both tget pissed at their respective teachers and it is only then that the teachers show them how these common movements translate to their respective martial art. I suppose that if we look at the original from that point of view, the only real difference is that Miyagi lets Daniel figure it out for himself, and Mr. Han explains to Dre about the philosophy. Though, giving more points to the remake, I think Han does it more for discipline than anything else, because Dre was rude to his mom and so doesn`t believe that what his bullies learn is real kung fu. This is where is disagree with the critic. I don`t think Daniel has dark edge he could cross, I feel like that`s more Dre. Not that Dre would become a bully, but he is kind of a brat. All Daniel learns is that karate is deeper... and that`s it because there`s nothing else he needs to learn. In the new film, apart from learning that Kung fu is more than just fighting, he learns to be a better person and for that I think the new film handles the protagonist`s development better than original film.

  • @Nikke-nn5mn
    @Nikke-nn5mn9 жыл бұрын

    18:30 if he blocks it, you did it wrong. If he doesn't you did it right.

  • @nyancatthingy

    @nyancatthingy

    9 жыл бұрын

    Nikke 2800 But then if we took any move from any fighting style then it could be unblock able like a punch if they don't block it then, in what you were saying before, it would be unblock able.

  • @averagejoe6617

    @averagejoe6617

    9 жыл бұрын

    He kicks you. You block it. The fucking end

  • @nhoj084eva

    @nhoj084eva

    9 жыл бұрын

    +Nikke 2800 the same thing could be same for any move

  • @VixXstazosJOB

    @VixXstazosJOB

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Nikke 2800 Isn't there a simple "you did good at attacking but he also did good at defending, cuase you're both good at fighting anyways" kind of thing in martial arts? that mentality - philosophy you said seems a little... _demeaning_

  • @OliverKlozzofff
    @OliverKlozzofff10 жыл бұрын

    old vs new was one of my favorite nostalgia critic segments. It's really a shame that he doesn't do them anymore....

  • @l5561
    @l55618 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Finally, someone who knows that jersey is a place full of people like Snukky and who ever was in that stupid show

  • @AmAxel35
    @AmAxel359 жыл бұрын

    Just noticed that the new Karate Kid has the same error as the old Karate Kid. I used to make fun of the new one because Jackie Chan teaches Jaden Smith Chinese Gong Fu, not Karate as the title implies but after watching the old movie again... Miyagi also teaches Daniel mostly Chinese Gong Fu, not Japanese Karate, Daniel even assumes a (half-assed) Crane stance to win the tournament. (technically cheating for using an unfamiliar technique in a Karate tournament :v )

  • @thebiggamers999

    @thebiggamers999

    9 жыл бұрын

    its kung fu -.- not gong fu and the tournament in the new one is also a kung fu tournament

  • @AmAxel35

    @AmAxel35

    9 жыл бұрын

    gong fu = kung fu :v. Still makes the title rather misleading to an extent.

  • @thebiggamers999

    @thebiggamers999

    9 жыл бұрын

    yeah the title is kinda misleading

  • @Tarrell1996

    @Tarrell1996

    9 жыл бұрын

    You're right and you're wrong. Miyagi didn't teach japanese karate, he taught Okinawan karate (likely a form of Goju Ryu). I can't say I see any Gong Fu in their fighting style.

  • @AmAxel35

    @AmAxel35

    9 жыл бұрын

    Tarrell Christie I doubt it as Daniel took a Crane stance, either Miyagi didn't know wtf he was doing or he didn't know wtf he was doing then. :P

  • @BrianDiCaprio
    @BrianDiCaprio10 жыл бұрын

    If they called it The Kung Fu kid people would call it a ripoff of Karate Kid.

  • @TakumiEnferrujado

    @TakumiEnferrujado

    10 жыл бұрын

    ***** ever head of a REMAKE dumbshit?

  • @jonathanrobinson8926

    @jonathanrobinson8926

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** Ummm...see....there's this thing. :/ And it's kinda called a remake. You might want to look into it, just sayin'....

  • @jlk461

    @jlk461

    7 жыл бұрын

    No they would call it a reimagining of and/or an omage to the original.

  • @stanswan6184
    @stanswan618410 жыл бұрын

    Jackie Chan is awesome but the Old Karate kid has a more real world story and events.

  • @bgpapa4178

    @bgpapa4178

    10 жыл бұрын

    ........ obvious troll is obvious......

  • @AlphaRakamaTech
    @AlphaRakamaTech9 жыл бұрын

    Gotta disagree with the nostalgia critic on this one. While I was impressed with jaden Smith's performance, I still think the 1st movie overall was better put together. Maybe I'm just so retro

  • @DELTABOY04

    @DELTABOY04

    9 жыл бұрын

    +Alpha Rakama go look at it again..the original was terrible

  • @AlphaRakamaTech

    @AlphaRakamaTech

    9 жыл бұрын

    DELTABOY04 I have and I still feel the same way. Nobody has to agree. Just my opinion

  • @legendaryseeker2420

    @legendaryseeker2420

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Alpha Rakama I agree with you but not because the original was a better movie over all though. I agree because by default the original is a better karate movie.....In the original he was taught Karate......therefore he can be a "karate kid". The new one is praying on peoples ignorance and I do not like to be thought of as a fool. Kung fu is not Karate!!! A Japanese person is not Chinese!!! But I guess what ever right? lets remake something but just swap out one asian fighting style and culture for another I am sure no one will notice. Least of all Americans. Call the "remake" anything you want just not karate kid because there was no karate in it...Cmon I expect better from Nostalgia Critic. The new movie was a good movie just wasn't a karate kid movie it was a kid learning a different martial art to beat a bully..They should have called it i dunno never back down part 3 or some shit.

  • @AlphaRakamaTech

    @AlphaRakamaTech

    8 жыл бұрын

    +LEGENDARY SEEKER soundtrack was also pretty memorable

  • @internets8ntk465

    @internets8ntk465

    8 жыл бұрын

    +LEGENDARY SEEKER that was a very shallow and pointless excuse. Just because the title is misleading doesnt mean that the movie is bad. I personally think that the original is good but the cliche and goofy fight scenes were some of its weakness. This is just an opinion

  • @BassAckwards68
    @BassAckwards688 жыл бұрын

    "As much as I love these nuts" I'll never be able to hear that line the same way again now

  • @ScottStDenis
    @ScottStDenis9 жыл бұрын

    muscle memory is why it was done that way in the original, massive repitition meant it would be ingrained in his mind, matching it with an action meant that he name would trigger a response

  • @spamcam7981

    @spamcam7981

    9 жыл бұрын

    Then why not do the actual movements? Those would be better for muscle memory

  • @ScottStDenis

    @ScottStDenis

    9 жыл бұрын

    because those were the actual movements and it was meant to be subtle as some people would have an easier time learning if they didnt realise they were learning

  • @spamcam7981

    @spamcam7981

    9 жыл бұрын

    Scott St. Denis Except Daniel wanted to learn martial arts which doesn't make him one of those people.

  • @LunatheMoonDragon

    @LunatheMoonDragon

    9 жыл бұрын

    Scott St. Denis The point the Critic was trying to make was that in the new movie, there was a moment of realization where, after whining and complaining and being confused as to why all he was allowed to do was take his jacket on and off, he was finally shown WHY this was helping him.

  • @spamcam7981

    @spamcam7981

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jazzmin Miller Yeah....but nostalgia critic's complaint was that the original didn't give any reason as to why he did it. The remake explained it though.

  • @medeltidsdykaren
    @medeltidsdykaren10 жыл бұрын

    I dont mind Jaden Smith in the movie. But the new karate kid would make more scence if it was with karate and not kung fu. It would tie the old movies together alot better if the story was that Daniel finds Dre after say attending mr Miyagis funeral and after some talking decides to help and train the kid. (Pat Morita did die 2005 so it would be an homage to him) Firstly it would make younger people interested in finding the older movies and also would fit in what Miyagi tells Daniel in part 3, "One day my karate will come from you". Secondly it could restart a new set of movies with Daniel as the teacher.

  • @Dexieboi2013
    @Dexieboi201310 жыл бұрын

    Well, to tell you the truth. I love both films equally. The original I like cause it was a classic and was well made, the remake was great cause it goes more in depth and explains more about the training. And I love both cause both main leads are great and both secondary leads are amazing at what they did in the movie.

  • @jaysteelo9419
    @jaysteelo94199 жыл бұрын

    New Karate Kid: More well made film Old Karate Kid: Iconic Campy fun

  • @Zorlag

    @Zorlag

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** no

  • @Brainwave101

    @Brainwave101

    9 жыл бұрын

    ...wow what a well made argument "no"

  • @frezericks
    @frezericks8 жыл бұрын

    Just came to say, the reason Mr Miagee (sp?) makes him paint the fence and wax his car is it's a test of his patience and determination. If he had given up, then he wouldn't have been worthy. It's a trial of character rather than physicality.

  • @lextrux
    @lextrux10 жыл бұрын

    the new Karate kid isn't even about karate... it's Kung Fu >.> and that's the first and foremost problem that I had with the movie...

  • @DoctorKnow00

    @DoctorKnow00

    10 жыл бұрын

    I believe they had to use the same name because the 2010 version used the same screenplay as the 1984 version. Copyright laws, and the original writer Robert Kamen objecting to them changing the name. He still got a writing credit and a paycheck from the 2010 film though.

  • @lextrux

    @lextrux

    10 жыл бұрын

    NX-10 Nemesis even so... It was a good movie, but they shouldn't have used kung fu then... but oh well...

  • @TheStupidLama

    @TheStupidLama

    10 жыл бұрын

    THAT was your problem :D sorry but I don't think you can't find anything enjoyable if that pissed you off^^ we ALL know that Kung Fu is Chinese, whereas Karate is Japanese. we ALL know it! It's a technicality that kinda sucks, but doesn't make or break a movie, dude. If that is all it takes, you name me ANY movie you like and I can rip it apart instantly. Go ahead, I'll wait^^

  • @DoctorKnow00

    @DoctorKnow00

    10 жыл бұрын

    At least Karate Kid (2010) is better than the Karate Kid Part 3 and The Next Karate Kid.

  • @lextrux

    @lextrux

    10 жыл бұрын

    ***** Like I stated before, I liked the movie, it just bothered me throughout the entire film that it was Kung Fu, so yea :s

  • @freyamikaelson2867
    @freyamikaelson28679 жыл бұрын

    Karate is actually Japanese, and the guy who was teaching the kid Karate was Chinese, so I guess that's why they decided to do a Kung Fu movie.

  • @nomoremaybes

    @nomoremaybes

    9 жыл бұрын

    Freya Mikaelson they don't hire the actor before writing the movie dumbass.

  • @freyamikaelson2867

    @freyamikaelson2867

    9 жыл бұрын

    God bless you :-)

  • @nomoremaybes

    @nomoremaybes

    9 жыл бұрын

    Freya Mikaelson righto idiot.

  • @freyamikaelson2867

    @freyamikaelson2867

    9 жыл бұрын

    Haha You are so beautiful today

  • @nomoremaybes

    @nomoremaybes

    9 жыл бұрын

    Freya Mikaelson your weird friendly routine is pathetic.

  • @rhettgedies7467
    @rhettgedies746710 жыл бұрын

    Dumb conclusion. The new one copied the old one almost scene by scene. There is a reason it was good, because it piggybacked on almost everything. Yes, Jackie Chan is awesome, but I'm not going to concede the classic was weaker because of it. Jaden Smith also looks like a baby. It is less believable that he beefed up like he did as opposed to Macchio being like a believable teen who could do this. Also, the final move of each fight. The new film had a move Smith couldn't have pulled off realistically. The crane technique was much more believable.

  • @619PAIN

    @619PAIN

    10 жыл бұрын

    hahaha do you even know this was a remake? wait.... do you even know WHAT IS A REMAKE? of course they copied scene by scene it's a freaking REMAKE.

  • @rhettgedies7467

    @rhettgedies7467

    10 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but if a remake has nothing....I repeat NOTHING new about it, what the point of it even existing? It has to have SOMETHING that makes it stand out from the original in some way. See 1950's Invasion of the Body Snatchers to 1970's Invasion of the Body Snatchers (both are great....remake is better) or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. I rest my case.

  • @jokubast6395

    @jokubast6395

    10 жыл бұрын

    Rhett Gedies Well, it does have something that stands out from the original. The main thing being the kid moving to China than Reseda. I completely agree with the critic on this one, a bunch of karate experts from China (well, kung fu, but anyway) seem MUCH MORE realistic and threatening than bunch of American karate experts from Los Angeles. Honestly, to me it made the movie, I just felt much more into it than in the original simply because of environment.

  • @rhettgedies7467

    @rhettgedies7467

    10 жыл бұрын

    Jokūbas Algimantas Turčakovas Smith wasn't close to plausible due to his age. He looked like he should be wearing diapers. The fact that he learns all this high-end kung fu in a month's time? It's ridiculous. it was much more plausible with Macchio.

  • @sarah4hp

    @sarah4hp

    10 жыл бұрын

    Rhett Gedies I have to say I REALLY disagree with you. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the old Karate Kid movies, but to say that Jaden was less believable is just ridiculous. The kid worked SO hard, and what you saw was what HE did which makes it EXTREMELY believable. The stunts and moves that kid pulled off blew my mind, and while I LOVED Daniel I can't say his moves did the same thing to the same extent.

  • @johngun7418
    @johngun74189 жыл бұрын

    What really irks me about the old movie is that its super obvious that these people don't actually practice MA while in the new one they at least hide it with flashy choreography.

  • @johngun7418

    @johngun7418

    9 жыл бұрын

    I just mean the sloppy technique

  • @megametaljoe79
    @megametaljoe7910 жыл бұрын

    You know he did those chores to develop patience and conditioning. Just saying not every nit pick needs an explaination

  • @4br4c4d4vre

    @4br4c4d4vre

    10 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but as Doug explains at 7:50, Miyagi never explains why he's doing it. It might be the reason, however, he doesn't explain it to Daniel why it's important.

  • @megametaljoe79

    @megametaljoe79

    10 жыл бұрын

    Well he kind of does when daniel gets impatient meyagi throws punches to him and daniel uses the technique to block the punches.

  • @4br4c4d4vre

    @4br4c4d4vre

    10 жыл бұрын

    Ah, my mistake then.

  • @megametaljoe79

    @megametaljoe79

    10 жыл бұрын

    Its ok its a very forgettable moment in the film.

  • @violacrb

    @violacrb

    10 жыл бұрын

    Miyagi and Daniel also play to a very true cultural norm of an earlier time. You didn't question your teacher. You did what you were told. It didn't matter if you understood it. (they actually make a pact to that extent before the waxing begins.) Also, it always made sense to me that it was both training and payment for training simultaneously. I know that wasn't explicit, but that's what I saw.

  • @alechendrickson5526
    @alechendrickson552610 жыл бұрын

    I agree the new film does do a better job, because as a former martial arts student, I've learned that Martial Arts was designed for knowledge, defense, emotion, harmony etc etc. Essentially passive and positive feelings. That's what the new film says as well, as well as the new and modern ways martial arts is being used, for offense and harm. I'd also say the movie is a metaphor on the controversial newer Chinese culture facing the older and relatively more peaceful Chinese culture, that the current government wants removed. Cobra Kai represents the new ways, Chan and Smith represent the old ways.

  • @ChaseSanity
    @ChaseSanity8 жыл бұрын

    I liked the original better, but oh well, to each his own (:

  • @comidyseeker

    @comidyseeker

    8 жыл бұрын

    Good attitude! I'm glad you realize he voices his opinions, whereas some take his choices as challenges to their pride.

  • @ChaseSanity

    @ChaseSanity

    8 жыл бұрын

    +comidyseeker well he's reviewed a few films I've liked but I don't get offended at all, actually a lot of his reviews make me laugh my ass off haha

  • @indianajonesguy100
    @indianajonesguy10010 жыл бұрын

    The verdict here makes me sad. He has a point, and it hurts, because I love the original....

  • @sydhamelin1265
    @sydhamelin12658 жыл бұрын

    Oh, I also have to add that, as far as realism goes, it makes much more sense for a kid to learn Karate in a few months and be able to compete in a 'strip mall dojo' style tournament, as opposed to learning in a few months and competing in China.

  • @jonathanrobinson8926
    @jonathanrobinson89269 жыл бұрын

    Both of these movies were great, but I have to agree with Critic on this one. For me, the real deciding factor was honestly the Master. As much as the original is the iconic Karate master that everyone instantly thinks of the moment you mention "Karate Kid", Jackie Chan was perfect in the role, and his backstory was so deep and well-developed, it just took the story to an entire new level for me.

  • @SanDhampir
    @SanDhampir7 жыл бұрын

    12:57 "He's just a fucking asshole, who wants to start a fight. Because... he's a fucking asshole."LMAO!!! I love that line

  • @CactusG26
    @CactusG268 жыл бұрын

    "HE'S EVEN WALKING ON A FUCKING TORPEDO!!!" i am still laughing my ass off while typing...!! jajajajaja!!!!

  • @Caitlynn552
    @Caitlynn55210 жыл бұрын

    I still can't get over the slap in the face of the remake title. Maybe I'm just nitpicking but it frustrates me that the new Karate Kid is NOT LEARNING KARATE! You want to create a remake, fine, but at least don't go around insulting those who know the difference between KARATE and F*CKING KUNG FU!

  • @Zeromega159

    @Zeromega159

    10 жыл бұрын

    it was paying homage to the original story. its a retelling with a different setting, not a carbon copy. cool it pollen head

  • @JayDaVillian1991

    @JayDaVillian1991

    10 жыл бұрын

    ok 1st of all if they replaced every use of the word kung fu with karate you wouldn't be able to tell the difference AT ALL (unless you were/are intellectual on martial arts). the fact that they use kung fu over karate is actually better IN EVERY WAY!!! seriously karate is the "D" student of martial arts. its so weak in technique a regular street punk who can throw a fist can get a lucky shot in and beat you. little kids use karate MEN use tae kwon do, muay thai, capoeria and jujitsu. MASTERS use kung fu.

  • @Kurachi84
    @Kurachi8410 жыл бұрын

    the old is better imo, as i liked the fact miyagi never explained everything, so that its mysterious, and daniel san probably should feel it, instead of hear it but i guess people are more fan of jackie chan, than miyagi, which might be the true reason for alot of people to nitpick the older one, to make the newer one sound better WARNING: THIS IS MY OPINION

  • @VladNorris

    @VladNorris

    10 жыл бұрын

    "This is my opinion" =/= "Anyone disagreeing with me is an idiot" " i guess people are more fan of jackie chan, than miyagi, which might be the true reason for alot of people to nitpick the older one, to make the newer one sound better" just kills it.

  • @Kurachi84

    @Kurachi84

    10 жыл бұрын

    VladNorris again, thats part of my opinion, i never said noone may like jackie chan more read it well, and you'll understand, cuz you go a different way with your thinking now...

  • @VladNorris

    @VladNorris

    10 жыл бұрын

    You're dimissing the preference to the newer movie as mere preference to Jackie Chan, calling all the OBVIOUS flaws in the first movie as mere nitpicks.

  • @trinazucam5550

    @trinazucam5550

    10 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry I like Mr. Miyagi better and everything else in the old version I hate the new version of the karate kid I watched the old one 5 times in one day and cant make it 1 time with the new version.

  • @Xylarxcode

    @Xylarxcode

    10 жыл бұрын

    I thought Jackie Chan was better then Mr Miyagi, especially towards the end. The bond he forms with his pupil just feels much closer then that of Mr Miyagi and Daniel. But that has nothing to do with me liking Jackie Chan better then Pat Morita. It just felt like better acting overall, no matter who performed it.

  • @masond1995
    @masond19959 жыл бұрын

    Very good comparison. This actually makes me want to go check out the 2010 version, apparently I've been overlooking it lol

  • @XxPetexXx
    @XxPetexXx8 жыл бұрын

    Mr Han over Miyagi? BOOOO! As an aside, it actually is explained why Miyagi uses his methods, it's just more subtle.

  • @AlakazamMast3r
    @AlakazamMast3r10 жыл бұрын

    Who here thought Will Smiths Son was a girl at first?

  • @gustavovillegas95
    @gustavovillegas9510 жыл бұрын

    Mr Han beats up little kids while Mr. Miyagi beats up teenagers. Mr. Han heals people with fire while Mr. Miyagi heals people with just his hands and nothing more. Mr. Miyagi has a hobby. Mr. Han has a hobby and wrecks it. Mr. Miyagi is a closer father figure than Mr. Han. And Mr. Miyagi trains himself by trying to catch a fly with chopsticks while Mr. Han lazily hits the fly with a flyswatter. Sorry, but I'm still going with Mr. Miyagi.

  • @LivingCrusader
    @LivingCrusader9 жыл бұрын

    Critic forgot to mention that Miyagi was a Medal of Honor recipient (not a real one, obviously). But like him I was pleasantly surprised by the Karate Kid remake, though it wouldn't have hurt to call it the Kung Fu Kid.

  • @casatodototal

    @casatodototal

    9 жыл бұрын

    i would like to see a sequel where the new karate kid learns another karate-related martial art with another teacher, maybe he learns capoeira on his travel to brazil or something like that

  • @AshNorton

    @AshNorton

    9 жыл бұрын

    Critic also forgot to mention Noriyuki "Pat" Morita was nominated for an Academy Award, which was surprising for a "Rocky" rehash.

  • @Kruxslayer

    @Kruxslayer

    9 жыл бұрын

    i also belive his wife died in an internment camp

  • @Blaziken36

    @Blaziken36

    9 жыл бұрын

    Kung Fu Kid doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as Karate Kid plus they were trying to stay close to the original so there's that.

  • @oreadescailag9146

    @oreadescailag9146

    9 жыл бұрын

    Alex Braunberger but wich sonds cooler?

  • @AClem9597
    @AClem959710 жыл бұрын

    The original karate kid holds a very special place in my heart and is the reason I started martial arts

  • @nahor88
    @nahor889 жыл бұрын

    So, I watched the new Karate Kid FIRST, then found the original on Netflix. The original is a very good film, but I still like the new one better. It has a natural advantage for me because I wasn't born until 4 years after the original was released, so the new one just feels more relatable. I also found it much easier to get into the new one's story, and you can actually see more of his training to understand why he's such a good fighter by the end.

  • @nahor88

    @nahor88

    9 жыл бұрын

    gothatway09 No, I related to the new one better because it took place in THIS decade. The combination of styles, attitudes and cultural references (not to mention the capture quality) all felt more relatable.

  • @ericcallahan829

    @ericcallahan829

    9 жыл бұрын

    gothatway09 you are soooo correct. Dont you kind of lose point for remaking something anyway? There is nothing iconic in the new one. No quote, line or scene that will be remembered decades from now. There are several in the first. Wax on wax off, show me sand the floor, the crane kick, etc.

  • @nahor88

    @nahor88

    9 жыл бұрын

    Eric Callahan What is this bullshit about "lines or scenes that will be remembered decades from now". I WILL remember the scenes from the new one, in addition to millions of other people that loved the remake. I had never even heard of "wax on, wax off" until I saw the original, 4 years after the remake came out. And guess what, a lot of people like myself that were born after the original came out don't recognize it either.

  • @KrazyEngima

    @KrazyEngima

    9 жыл бұрын

    nahor88 I knew "wax on, wax off" before I even saw the movie and I was born 12 years after it came out

  • @Fatboyftw32

    @Fatboyftw32

    9 жыл бұрын

    gothatway09 My god, you sound so whiny. "How dare they...make a remake of a classic that I could always go back and enjoy even if the new version sucks. I'm not gonna just go enjoy my version though, I might as well tell off all those youngin's for having a different opinion. Get off my lawn!"

  • @JamesCarmichael
    @JamesCarmichael9 жыл бұрын

    I never liked the original karate kid in any case. The only thing I didn't like about the remake was Will Smith's Kid. They should have waited until he was at least 2 years older imo, but it was still a very good movie.

  • @alejandroaguilar9223
    @alejandroaguilar922310 жыл бұрын

    The memorable final scene, the drama, the lessons of mr. Miyagi, the atmosphere, the storyline, the soundtrack, the emotions that wakes you, everything about it was indescribably beautiful. The old one is a true master piece and has already went down in history as one of the great films of all time. The new one is good but there is no comparison.

  • @justyoshi1019
    @justyoshi101910 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit, that's the first time a new beat a classic old, happy to see a change XD

  • @derumasforlos4285
    @derumasforlos42858 жыл бұрын

    Referring to the Jersey reference and being nuts... My Chemical Romance

  • @nesonacouch1946
    @nesonacouch19467 жыл бұрын

    "Winner: crazy asian kid" XD

  • @samuelvibritannia4831
    @samuelvibritannia48318 жыл бұрын

    2: Uh, that was the point. He taught him to do this stuff, it looks cheap, and then it's awesome because BOOM he has learned karate. He's deceiving, he's short, he's old, he's wise, etc. The point was for him to be the wiser man teaching, and that's what happened at the end. He turned out to know it all along. He knew that the karate would come into focus, the point was to be subtle. This is actually one of the best balances in film, between outright telling you and the matrix. That added to the plot too. The plot twist, plus the suspense of the kick at the end, plus the added pace, made it so much better. Oh and the soundtrack too. I still know the classic soundtrack from the first one. The second one uses JB. Enough said about that. And yeah, while many things from the original were a bit cliche, they weren't as old. This is 30 years ago. They brilliantly put together the art of film, from the new kid on the block to the learning curve to the wise old mentor all the way to a subtle plot twist. Oh, and any catchphrases stick with you from the remake? No can defense. You beginner luck. Wax on, wax off. How did Han win? Oh, and which one was good enough to warrant useless sequels? Honestly, so many things got ignored...

  • @OnlyRoke
    @OnlyRoke8 жыл бұрын

    I think Miyagi gave Larusso all these tasks to test his patience. Only a patient and willing student will learn quickly would probably be his explanation as to why he has Daniel paint his fence and wax his car.

  • @THEFRISKIESTDINGO
    @THEFRISKIESTDINGO10 жыл бұрын

    Oh but the bully in the original was a complex character too, he was relieved when he lost, and celebrated. The new kid was a batshit crazy kid who was just awed that he could lose, he didn't want to lose like the bully in the old movie.

  • @ZombieismIsAChoice

    @ZombieismIsAChoice

    10 жыл бұрын

    I think that has a lot to do with their ages..

  • @victordorantes722

    @victordorantes722

    10 жыл бұрын

    And Chen was somehow racist...

  • @Omardtown1

    @Omardtown1

    10 жыл бұрын

    But remember the bully in the new movie is in Asia and it is common stereotype that they take things 10 times more seriously.

  • @ILoveAnime1121
    @ILoveAnime112110 жыл бұрын

    JACKIE CHAN MADE ME CRY!!!!!!

  • @mysterioso2006
    @mysterioso200610 жыл бұрын

    "I hope it was something important" OH MY GOD I FUCKING DIED ;~;

  • @kegyus
    @kegyus9 жыл бұрын

    as a martial arts practicioner, i just feel hurt every single time i watch a movie, where the novice becomes a master in a matter of weeks/months....c'on,it took me 6 months to even capture the main concept of my style of kung fu, learn the anatomy and physics behind the moves, etc...i know it would be boring to show the real deal, but still, gives me headache every time:D The video was very nice btw, loved the path u took with this whole old vs new style

  • @TwistedJayy
    @TwistedJayy10 жыл бұрын

    I think the remake is technically the better film. I like the mood and setting way more than the original. But there is something about the original that appeals to me, and I think that's Daniel and the actor who portrays him. Something about his acting just captivates the whole film. Also, the age difference really does come into play.

  • @xxTC-96xx
    @xxTC-96xx10 жыл бұрын

    go ahead and hate me for this but I loved the remake

  • @PowerWillful

    @PowerWillful

    10 жыл бұрын

    I love you

  • @kylielovespuppiecash
    @kylielovespuppiecash9 жыл бұрын

    "Bullshit i'm goin Home man " XD

  • @TexGaming
    @TexGaming10 жыл бұрын

    I completely agree....................................... with," Bullshit, I'm going home man!"

  • @josiahjenksisawesome
    @josiahjenksisawesome9 жыл бұрын

    8:22 Actually, I think this was more of a test than anything. Mr Myagi probably wanted to see the Level of Trust that Daniel had.

  • @mr.b9613
    @mr.b96139 жыл бұрын

    Original by a longshot for me even though I enjoyed the new one. I don't know why people love to hate on the wax on wax off when the jacket was even more ridiculous. If anything I remember the wax on wax off, and painting fence sequences more than the newer. It feels better when Daniel puts it to use and waaaaay more realistic because he doesn't become a karate god but learns basic defense. "Look eye! Always look eye!!!!! "

  • @somerandomperson5911
    @somerandomperson59118 жыл бұрын

    and now the karate kid cartoon theme is stuck in your head forever

  • @princessthyemis
    @princessthyemis9 жыл бұрын

    What a well-done review and comparison!

  • @Bustermachine
    @Bustermachine9 жыл бұрын

    5000 comments, so this has definitely been answered before in the churn. While the movie doesn't outright state it, Mister Miyagi was pretty much testing Daniel to see if he was worth teaching. Not skill wise but in terms of determination. Martial arts training is hard work, which everyone already knows, and the fundamentals are insanely tedious, which people don't usually fully realize when they start. This obviously got lost in trying to make Miyagi look unassuming and mysterious. Mister Miyagi is also an old man who wouldn't exactly mind tricking some young fool into doing things around his house :P He's a Karate master not a saint and one of the talents of a good martial artist is utilizing every resource that comes your way.

  • @benjamingentile1660
    @benjamingentile166010 жыл бұрын

    come on on 8:26, he didn't have to explain why he made him do all those chores, it was to give him muscle memory so he could do the moves well

  • @Jetrox4ever

    @Jetrox4ever

    10 жыл бұрын

    Your kinda defeating the point by explaining it to us...

  • @benjamingentile1660

    @benjamingentile1660

    10 жыл бұрын

    Jetrox4ever but it was supposed to be obvious when Mr. Miyagi came home from fishing and Daniel complains about how all day he was doing chores and Mr. Miyagi strikes him and Daniel's hands immediately move into position to block it because painting the fence or waxing the car a ton of times trained him to move like that even though he didn't know that's what he was doing when seemingly just doing chores and for me that's 10x better than being spoon fed: "I am having you do this because..."

  • @kurtisdeakin

    @kurtisdeakin

    10 жыл бұрын

    Benjamin Gentile its why i liked miyagi more. He made Daniel work for it with no explanation, proving how much Daniel wanted it and how far he was willing to go.

  • @chrisnoclass1562
    @chrisnoclass156210 жыл бұрын

    I love how he gets the intro the same almost every time

  • @LosMachinesTV
    @LosMachinesTV9 жыл бұрын

    Daniel needed to build muscles that's why he painted the fence. And he needed to trust what his sensei ordered even if Daniel didn't understand why at that moment.

  • @jp3813
    @jp38137 жыл бұрын

    7:38 is proof that Doug is a hypocrite for constantly preaching "show, don't tell" and whining about exposition. Miyagi did exactly what he wants Christopher Nolan characters to do.

  • @Lawlzinator
    @Lawlzinator9 жыл бұрын

    The chores weren't only about teaching the moves, it was about building strength and creating muscle memory. Fuckin pay attention.

  • @jackmoody5174

    @jackmoody5174

    8 жыл бұрын

    And testing Daniel's patience

  • @aleksisurenkin6345
    @aleksisurenkin63459 жыл бұрын

    I remember my old Religion teacher putted out candels by squeesing it with her fingertips

  • @tomtinker8220
    @tomtinker82208 жыл бұрын

    i wonder if doug missed the part of the original karate kid movie. there's a part where mr miyagi tells daniel to do the motions of the chores he had him do and quickly translated those motions into defensive moves.

  • @godzillavkk
    @godzillavkk8 жыл бұрын

    I dunno about Doug's argument about being a Teen means standing up for yourself and fighting back. When I was in High School fighting was rare(Despite the school being filled with pea-brained manchildren) and when there were fights they were broken up and the participants were taken to the police. In addition I must disagree about help going out the window... at least with me. In my family we're always willing to help another if we have difficulty doing something ourselves regardless of age. But that's just with my family. P.S. Miyagi made Daniel paint all that stuff to teach him discipline, an important thing you need to know when learning Martial Arts.

  • @NickZephyr
    @NickZephyr9 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Almost everyone disagrees with the critic here. I do not. Honestly, I saw the remake before I saw the original, and, I liked the remake better. Maybe it's something I have against 80's movies but I felt that it was boring and un-creative. At least the remake actually went to fucking CHINA to film it. I loved the characters and the story and the writing a lot better honestly. I agree with the critic that the old film seemed way too much like real life and I don't like that in movies. So yeah, I like the remake more. It seemed more alive.

  • @Lamadredetuamigo

    @Lamadredetuamigo

    8 жыл бұрын

    +LaceeLasers But nevertheless they called the film 'Karate Kid' instead of 'Kung Fu Kid'.

  • @theanimationcluster7995

    @theanimationcluster7995

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Serge Kent Kung fu Kid is just Kung fu Panda, man. The name would be awful, but I do understand that it was a bad idea to have the Karate Kid remake teach Kung fu.

  • @theanimationcluster7995

    @theanimationcluster7995

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Aaron Woodard This goes to everyone else as well, people.

  • @xyoungdipsetx
    @xyoungdipsetx7 жыл бұрын

    Unless your Willy wonkia lmao! That had me rolling

  • @MediumRareOpinions
    @MediumRareOpinions9 жыл бұрын

    COOOOBRAAAA! (Its all about brand recognition )

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