Check out the Merch Store: teespring.com/stores/growling-sidewinder-store Just having a little fun in this one but it kind of weirdly showed the other perspective pretty well I imagine the real thing would be very similar with the mig-29 unable to retaliate in any way. It was actually quite an experience to be so helpless in a BVR fight amazing what the difference in technology can do. Anyway I hope you guys enjoyed the video Thank you for watching and your support with the channel. Much Love.

@schweizerluchs7146

3 жыл бұрын

weellll

@IcePhoenix_yt

3 жыл бұрын

Yay, The F-22!

@XimCines

3 жыл бұрын

You got really near, maybe with a wingman things could have taken another route, in fact it would be much more realistic. How many mig-29s are needed to take down a single F22? How about rugged terrain? Niiiiice video.

@sd501st5

3 жыл бұрын

It felt like you were being hunted by the Predator(Movie Monster, not Drone) in all honesty.

@silverphinex

3 жыл бұрын

Would be curious if how close you would have to get with say the F-14 with the AWG-9 before you saw the F-22 on radar if you saw him at all

“ Supreme Leader gonna be pissed because that was our only Mig29 “ 😂😂😂

@XimCines

3 жыл бұрын

Loved that comment.

@SycomMC

3 жыл бұрын

@@XimCines Same, I burst out laughing when I heard that.

@Saadane_fdgod

3 жыл бұрын

i read your comment and you spoiled me

@ThisFinalHandle

3 жыл бұрын

And the years supply of winter kerosene.

@ShadeAKAhayate

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Trade blockage in another attempt at genocide an entire country can do that to its economy. Still, people there tend to live like people. Communism ftw, despite sometimes strange leadership.

That was like throwing dodgeballs with c4 attached to them at a blind kid

@brethall2006

3 жыл бұрын

It's only fair if you tie the blind kids shoe laces together. Cold very cold.(hehe)

@firmaneffendi2801

3 жыл бұрын

@@brethall2006 and haven't eat proper food for years

@lawrencemenzel354

3 жыл бұрын

That's hillarious !!!!

@brethall2006

3 жыл бұрын

@@lawrencemenzel354 my point is this U.S. military does NOT want a fair fight. We spend billions so we dominate and end confrontations quickly and decisively. Think of the North Korean pilot as the blind kid with his shoe laces tied. In the big picture it saves U.S. lives. Dam good strategy by my way of thinking. He'll of a deturent too.

@brethall2006

3 жыл бұрын

Hunter, I like your quirky since of humor. It's the truth it saves lives for U.S. to dominate. Sucks if your a N.Korean pilot. The world will just have to learn going up against a Rapter is not going to end well for blind pilots with their shoelaces tied.(hehe)

Wrong defence strategy. Best chance for survival was to head south screaming _"I_ _DEFECT,_ _I_ _DEFECT"_ on wideband.

@ryanjonathanmartin3933

3 жыл бұрын

HAHAHHA

@ScottyJones67

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@yarrrthekraken

2 жыл бұрын

I declare DEFECTION

@imadrifter

2 жыл бұрын

I am requesting Asylum* (In Korean Pilotese)

@wingman4668

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing is safe from a stealth fighter like that xD

You know you’re the least favorite pilot when your CO orders you to go toe to toe with an F22 in a Fulcrum.

@MikoyanGurevichMiG21

3 жыл бұрын

Could be worse, he could have sent him on me or even the fucking MiG 17 lol

@patthonsirilim5739

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 I would just defect at that point the moment I lift off il hit the afterburner screaming I defect on open coms best strategy against an f22.

@bomber6258

2 жыл бұрын

@@patthonsirilim5739 NK SAMs try to shoot you down but miss, dies while attempting landing

@patthonsirilim5739

2 жыл бұрын

@@bomber6258 hey evading north korea sam with my north korea plane trying to land in us or her allies airbase is a far better combat plan then actully fighting the f22 at least this plan of mine have some chance of sucess taking my mig 21 or early mig29 up against a f22 is pure suicide.

@nenram.5786

2 жыл бұрын

You should've just went straight to south korea and eject right at the border.

The real question is how did the leaders know an F22 was inbound in the first place lol

@ryanestes7331

3 жыл бұрын

Long band radar can detect stealth fighter pretty easily. They just are too "slow" to be paired to fire control systems for missiles. These radars are cheap and used in many private airfields in america. NK has a couple from russia most likely

@superman-un6pq

3 жыл бұрын

by Trump's tweet may be ?

@VyarkX

3 жыл бұрын

@@superman-un6pq that too

@danielh1708

3 жыл бұрын

@Rammy F-22 and F-35 have already performed combat missions over Syria...

@every1665

3 жыл бұрын

Because "our Dear Leader" is so special he can see an F-22 over the horizon with his special super vision. Don't forget his father hit 11 'Hole in One's' the very first time he ever played golf.

I remember an F15 pilot who was pitted against an F22 at Red Flag exercise a few years ago (the f22 got 8 F15s before it left). The pilot said "your first indication that you are in a fight with an F22 is looking up and seeing a deployed parachute."

@dansands8140

2 жыл бұрын

If you see a chute at Red Flag someone's getting busted a grade

@helplmchoking

Жыл бұрын

@@dansands8140 unless it's the raptor, then they're getting a discharge at best.

Making the Raptor spend three whole AMRAAMs to down a single NK fighter goes down as an NK victory in my book.

@blinthepannkek6173

2 жыл бұрын

3 missiles only for a single fighter... I see this as a win.

@jeffcivjeep7

2 жыл бұрын

Except the jet and pilot was harder to replace.

@nastynate4916

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffcivjeep7 North Korean pilots are very expendable in the eye of the military I imagine

@slenderjake5301

2 жыл бұрын

@@nastynate4916 lol, u’re just saying you’re ignorant

@devnandannair2336

2 жыл бұрын

while a mig 29 is relatively cheap in the world of planes, its still more expensive than 3 amraams, prob even more than 8 amraams by quite a bit

That's actually legit scary. From someone who doesn't play fight sims and only really reads about this stuff to see this concept of stealth combined with the strength of AMRAAMs, seeing it in practice in DCS really puts into perspective for me of how dangerous of a fight this is.

@Kiba69420

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, though... like others have said, its not a fair fight. Not even a little bit. Its not exactly because of vastly superior tech, but then again it kind of is. The big difference here is that the F-22 is not a REALLY a fighter, despite its F designation. Its in intradiction aircraft. They were specifically designed to take out enemy aircraft from as far out of visual range as possible. Very few aircraft have a chance vs an F22 because of this. They were the first 5th Gen "fighter" jet to come out, and its only been until recent time when Russia and China even came out with theirs... The PAK FA (russia) and the J-20(china). Before these aircraft, the F-22 was a legitimate Bald Eagle in a sky full of sparrows. The first aircraft to even be able to take one out in wargames was 5-10 years ago(i believe), when a french Rafale barely squeaked out a kill. Ima leave you a link to the real world "dashcam" of this happening. Notice how stressed the pilot is in this Rafale to be able to do this. /watch?v=KOswfrc7Xtg

@KJV0812

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kiba69420 Well it was a great training scenario, but what people dont understand is a fully combat load 4th gen will not be able to maintain the same performance as a f-22 because it has no parasite drag of missiles. The british typhoon is considered one of if not the best dog fighter, and it can barely hang with the f22. Parasite drag.

@Kiba69420

3 жыл бұрын

@@KJV0812 F-22 max speed is somewhere close to Mach 3, not too many fighter jets can hang with it in general. The F-22 isnt a dog fighter, its an interdiction fighter. Its purpose was/is to be on call to intercept threats first. To get to engage distance (somewhere around 500-600miles max) and splash the threat before the enemy even knows they are in danger. They are perfectly capable dog fighters, but it isnt their purpose. Same thing with the A-10. Its not meant to dogfight, it can if it needs to, but its far more superior at attacking ground based targets.

@KJV0812

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kiba69420 Well it is one of very few aircraft that can hit their max speed; rafale could not with combat load. I mean I hear pilots say they wont ever see max speed anyway.

@joshgoinncrazyy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kiba69420 you just said the f-22 wasn’t designed to be a fighter and the A-10 can dogfight if it need to i don’t think you know anything about these jets

Rofl at “that was our only mig29”

@ganef8297

3 жыл бұрын

That's why there's no round two.

@onurdmetu

3 жыл бұрын

@@ganef8297 mwahahah

@nonamesplease6288

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, the North officially has only 26 MiG 29s. How many of those are operational? You may actually have lost the only flying example in the North Korean air force.

@mrowldev

3 жыл бұрын

@@nonamesplease6288 facts, but you don't have to take that serious, he just said for a joke.

@andrewruss5824

3 жыл бұрын

@@nonamesplease6288 yea I agree with Caleb you missed the joke.

That was interesting but I prefer fights with more uncertain outcomes, a baby seal on dry land against a starving polar bear for example

@VyarkX

3 жыл бұрын

Idk man i feel like the seal might win

@AtomicBlastPony

3 жыл бұрын

If he dodged that last missile he could've forced a merge so I'd say it was pretty close

@W1ckedRcL

3 жыл бұрын

@@AtomicBlastPony I don't think so. That was a really optimistic statement from GS. In the review you could see there was a point he was looking, literally, directly at the F22 but his sensors had nothing. Being forced to stay that aggressively defensive, I doubt he would've ever actually seen the F22 to attempt a merge.

@bruh-xb2uy

3 жыл бұрын

Or an f-35 vs a p-51

@saadsajidul9001

3 жыл бұрын

Nice example man

This is why the stealth pilots call it "clubbing baby seals" when they fly against non-stealth aircraft... You actually did really well considering how much of a disadvantage you were at. Also, in real life the low probability of intercept AN/APG-77 might not have enough radiated energy dwell time on any particular part of the sky to trigger a RWR - even in an aircraft that's actually being actively tracked. And, given cooperative engagement and data link, the AMRAAM (or the successor: AIM-260 JATM) will often arrive from an off axis direction. All together, it's really not possible to accurately model the capabilities of the F-22/ F-35 without making DCS completely unbalanced.

@theorangeofallahpbuh1840

Жыл бұрын

Well, realistically, what can actually rival the F-22 or F-35? Assuming, of course, that China doesn’t have some sort of magic equivalent to them that we somehow haven’t heard about.

@MrJoelalfa

Жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly......lol

@Tuckerslam

Жыл бұрын

@@theorangeofallahpbuh1840 Su-35S can, easily. Muh stealth is a gimmick never demonstrated by those two you mentioned against any capable adversary, especially with the monster of a total power product 35S radar has, and he can rain not just R-77s, but R-33/37s down on their burger asses. Chinese, I'm sure, have their own options.

@blood_angels5096

Жыл бұрын

@@Tuckerslam would that be the same su-35 that the Ukrainians are shooting down with air defense systems from the 1980s?

@anchovy1892

Жыл бұрын

@@Tuckerslam the bait was good, but not great keep trying

At least you got him to expand 5.4 million in missiles! Make it a war of economic attrition.

@stryker2099

3 жыл бұрын

but they only had 1 plane!!! lol

@standZ4

3 жыл бұрын

@@stryker2099 Still a war of attrition. Just one you can't win.

The most dreaded 3 words to come across the radio: "Cleared for takeoff"

@zeitviator629

3 жыл бұрын

why?

@9Apilot

3 жыл бұрын

@@zeitviator629 it's a joke told to emphasize how dominant one opponent is over another where the outcome is certain because of vast technological disparity. It was said about the Syrian air force in 1982 and the Iraqi air force during desert storm.

See, this is where you're wrong. Cuz in a real situation you would've been given a binocular!

@windplayer

3 жыл бұрын

because the radar will be offline due to lack of maintenance)

@firmaneffendi2801

3 жыл бұрын

@@windplayer just like old time somewhere over Yugoslav :D

@julienrooknizan5711

3 жыл бұрын

@@firmaneffendi2801 the F117 incident happened because a number of factor, not because of the stealth

@firmaneffendi2801

3 жыл бұрын

@@julienrooknizan5711 I know, just a bit of sarcasm. During that conflict, many Yugoslav's N019 had passed their MTBF life cycle. Also note for the F-117 incident: Technically correct about those factors into account. Actually the F-117 opened his bay and the modified SA-2 can faint painted and pin point her using multiple radars and basic trigonometric and so on.

@michaelpelzek8882

2 жыл бұрын

@@firmaneffendi2801 bro the fact that you guys die on the hill of shooting one down ever is really sad.

The biggest inaccuracy here is that they even knew the F22 was coming in time to scramble in the first place.

@SawdEndymon

Жыл бұрын

They think they have the best fighters. They’d believe that till a missile struck them😂

I can only imagine how nerve wracking it would be trying to fight an invisible enemy. Random shots coming with only a extremely vague idea of where they might be.

@SawdEndymon

Жыл бұрын

Honestly… the North Koreans wouldn’t know what it is.

Only prayer can save that North Korean Pilot now

@XimCines

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, maybe with another mig and a capable pilot things might have gone wrong for the f22. In fact it would be much more realistic. There are much more migs than F22s avaliables.

@XimCines

3 жыл бұрын

Rugged terrain might help too

@Ariana321

3 жыл бұрын

@@XimCines Not in North Korea there aren't, lol.

@isaquesevero4369

3 жыл бұрын

@@XimCines Yeah sure,the number of Mig-17s combined with 21s and 29s is probably higher than the F-22As that the US has available. And in reality those missiles would´ve been way more dangerous, and with a competent F-22A pilot yeah, that fight was over before it begun.

@aldenpittinger4162

3 жыл бұрын

@@XimCines you would have to know the F-22 is there if your being realistic it’s very likely they wouldn’t see the F-22 and it would kill them

Not like a north Korean pilot would have much of a choice. He's either dead or he's dead.

@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

3 жыл бұрын

I actually wonder how many north korean soldiers know about huge tech gap. The infantry propably dont but speacial forces and pilots might be told that in the event of war braking out they might be faceing a stronger enemy.

@Cybernaut76

3 жыл бұрын

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 The tech gap is even larger than you can believe it is. Most of North Korean military technology is from the sixties. It is not just Uncle Sam but all the rest of the world, too, are laughing at them. North Korea might as well scrap most of their military for good raw resources and to ease their military maintenance cost because it hardly has even a deterrent value anymore. South Korea would beat them to pulp even if Uncle Sam did nothing but twiddled his thumbs aside. Oh wait! No they cannot scrap their military after all. They still have their own unhappy and disgruntled civilians to fear.

@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cybernaut76 "South Korea would beat them to pulp even if Uncle Sam did nothing but twiddled his thumbs aside." No. North Korea has nukes and this would make it so the South would have a very hard time.

@QuincyPostman

3 жыл бұрын

He could defect

@shan6437

2 жыл бұрын

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 yeah but whoever use it first then they are going to be beaten by the rest of the world .

F-22's AN/APG-77 is an LPI radar, mig-29 can't get any notification via that old Russian rwr irl.

@jessebooth6752

3 жыл бұрын

^ this

@tshong66

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly when I was watching.

@AllThingsCubey

3 жыл бұрын

It has an LPI mode. Maybe they didn't use it to be sporting :D But yes, in the LPI mode, older RWR has no chance to detect it. Only the most modern systems on select 4+gen fighters and 5th gens can reliably detect radar emissions from LPI mode AESAs.

@jellypowder3325

3 жыл бұрын

I have no idea what yall talking about but i agree

@AllThingsCubey

3 жыл бұрын

@@jellypowder3325 Hehe. LPI: low probability of intercept. Means the radar is changing frequency several dozen (or several hundred) times a second, and is almost impossible for older RWR (radar warning receiver) systems to detect against background clutter, let alone lock onto for a return shot. It's one of the F-22's tricks to maintaining stealth, when more traditional radars are like a flashlight in the dark. You can see, but they can see you back. Not with LPI, as it's like a flashlight that's constantly changing colour, when the person looking back can only look for one colour at a time.

10 points to who knows this quote. "How do we find him if our radar can't see him?" "When a plane in your formation goes down, you'll know you're in the ball park."

@originalresqme

3 жыл бұрын

Space Above and Beyond?

@icecold9511

3 жыл бұрын

@@originalresqme Specifically when hunting for Chiggy red baron. That's what the F22 reminds me of, especially with 120s.

RIP GS, You prolly got arrested and then executed as soon as you touched the ground. 😂😂😂 Fun video btw!

@subjectc7505

3 жыл бұрын

Yep🤣Kim wasn't happy

@spyderf16

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Shouldn't have ejected. Now you have to deal with a lengthy "debrief" before dying.

@subjectc7505

3 жыл бұрын

@@spyderf16 Death by AA? Lol

@williamjr5825

3 жыл бұрын

just run to south korean border if i was a mig pilot that recieved and order from supreme leader to go fight f22 ill just fly over to south korea and eject there

@subjectc7505

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamjr5825 it's a slim chance cuz not many successful made it across the DMZ 🤣. Just hope your punishment Is to brutal

I've watched my kids watch KZread videos of other people playing video games. I just shook my head and laughed. Now here I am eating lunch at work, and watching KZread videos of other people playing video games. Love the channel!

@GrowlingSidewinder

2 жыл бұрын

I was not in a such a different boat than you brother lol. now I make the content I use to have trouble understanding. Its a strange world man.

@Odin31b

Жыл бұрын

First time as well.. thanks for posting

"Supreme Leader gonna be pissed..." comment earned the sub lmao

Make sure to polish those rearview mirrors so the F22 looks good when you realized it's on your six.

@gigachad3327

2 жыл бұрын

Can you do that in DCS?

@shealupkes

Жыл бұрын

that's the only way you'll know it's behind you

15 seconds into it and I'm laughing all ready"what could possibly go wrong"?

@brethall2006

3 жыл бұрын

It's a honor for me. I started watching and subscribed a few months back. I have always enjoyed talking to and listing to the stories of pilots and tactics. Your channel gives an excellent insight into tactical analyses and the joy of just blowing shit up(hehe) it's been my pleasure.

@chuckd5877

3 жыл бұрын

Bret Hall...an honor, dude? It’s a video game. Save the “it’s an honors” for real heroes.

What’s exceptionally scarier is the fact that the first raptor was mission capable in 2005… the last raptor went mission capable 2011…. So our pilots have had 17 years to perfect their skills…. Skunkworks has had 17 years to improve this platform and develop something better

Legend has it that the Raptor pilot actually thought about breaking a sweat that day.

These are amazing, your explanation of how the equipment differs and how it can be utilized, is informative and easy to digest.

I like the vids when you are at supreme disadvantage

@XimCines

3 жыл бұрын

Love it too. Maybe with a wingman things could have taken another route and still be tough.

this is like having a drawing contest between Leonardo Da Vinci and a blind person

"...we're going to kill the shit out of this F-22... Oh no, there's a third missile. Mistakes were made, mistakes were made." I just shot my soda out through my nose! ROTFLMAO...

@denisrailey777

3 жыл бұрын

A bit like Ireland going into war against Usa? ROTFL. No offense meant Greenies.

@86mini74

2 жыл бұрын

@@denisrailey777 hey!! If the Irish got drunk first, they would kick the crap out of us.

Thanks, I took my kids to meet a Raptor pilot up in the control tower at Elmendorf afb and this video gives you a great idea of what the Raptor could do and what that pilot was trying to explain.

I haven’t started the vid yet and I’ve already got a few predictions... Edit: I finished it, I was right 😂 Great vid as always GS!

Ah yes a legendary battle I'm just waiting for the F4 vs F-14 Tom Cat Edit: ok wtf I didn't expect this much of a response saying stuff like it's unfair like c'mon it's just a game anything is possible

@Samsun55

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Mike_Romeo

3 жыл бұрын

We dont have pretty F-4's in DCS

@dbeasleyphx

3 жыл бұрын

Is there a Mig-25 in DCS? If so, Iran/Iraq war F-14 Tomcat vs MiG-25 Foxbat

@Power5

3 жыл бұрын

No flyable 25s but AI.

@stanlim9182

3 жыл бұрын

I like to see a f4u vs the f14 instead

When you turned your head to look back I couldn't help but notice that supple hand double stitched, Corinthian leather. Classy.

you know, I never understood why the F-22 was THAT good, until I watched this. this is why I love simulators; they help me understand what I normally can't. Also, you should do a dogfight with C.W. Lemoine

@XenoContact

3 жыл бұрын

It's a mod...made by some random dude....

@tigerpjm

3 жыл бұрын

Take it with a very large grain of salt.

@tigerpjm

3 жыл бұрын

@@hudsonr.218 The RCS wouldn't be accurate at all. To accurately model the RCS you'd have to have access to the sort of very secret information that the USAF doesn't readily hand out. RCS isn't a static thing. It changes based upon the direction of incoming emissions. Most "stealth" aircraft are optimised for emissions hitting the airframe from the front and even then it will depend upon the angle (above, below, level). It's not as simple as saying F-22 has (for example) 3× smaller RCS than an F-15. That number could be an average, or it could be in certain aspects or a specific aspect. I find it really difficult to believe that even an old MiG-29 with 1980's radar wouldn't have got some sort of return on a maneuvering F-22 at similar altitude with radar pointing straight at it 20km away. As it maneuvers it will show different angles to the enemy radar, so some signals are bound to return to the antenna, even if it's only momentary. The whole advantage of stealth is to position yourself out of the way of radar emissions and ambush from the blind spots. It isn't an invisibility cloak.

@maverick8697

3 жыл бұрын

In reality it would be somewhat harder for the MiG because the game doesn't simulate a LPI radar. So the RWR capability would be quite limited.

@tigerpjm

3 жыл бұрын

@@maverick8697 Yeah that's probably a fair comment, but at 20-30km it would be getting hit pretty hard, so I'm sure RWR would detect at those ranges. But yeah, who knows how far away effective LPI is? It's another thing that the USAF isn't particularly keen to share!

I don't think forcing a merge would've worked either. The Raptor simply won't let you. I bet with AIM-120Ds plus AWACS support, the Raptors wouldn't even have to enter North Korean airspace to splash bandits in the event things went hot over there.

@galaxymyt4834

3 жыл бұрын

Mirage 2000D 😍😌it's my love best best fighter jet I ever seen and with j20 this can beat USAf

@ramirezyoutubeyt2373

3 жыл бұрын

@@galaxymyt4834 wrong wrong wrong The F22 is better then the J20 F22s Stealth Perfomance is better then the J20 Chinas Airforce will lose to USAF s airforce the sukhoi cant even handle the f22

@Piddlefoots

2 жыл бұрын

@@galaxymyt4834 Nothing beats that F22......You should see its kill rate against 4th gen aircraft, tests done in real war simulations out at sea by the airforce and Navy, nothing more accurate other than real war, the F22 is over 70 to 1, the F35 is over 30 to 1, the biggest problem these planes have, not being able to carry more missiles, they literally have to launch more planes in the simulation, but being US carriers are always at such a high level of readiness, launching a dozen extra planes is totally doable, so in that scenario the kill rates were incredible, in that sim it came up against F18's, F15's, F16's, Griphen and Rafeals from French carrier group who were involved, and there were a few others I forget all of them plane models, but nothing even came close to having the ability to knock out an F22 or F35 in the attempt to attack a carrier group, EPIC fail on the behalf of Gen 4 planes, now whats REALLY interesting is this, after that rimpack event, a heap of nations around the world, now all of a sudden have increased how many F35s they are buying......... Both of these Stealth planes are literally the ONLY TRUE stealth fighters on planet Earth, Im not American by teh way, but the truth is the truth, they are, right now, almost unstoppable and it would terrify any of our enemies to have them on the border, as Israel have proven, by flying 2, F35s over Iran for hours collecting target data, Iran only found out about it, months later through a spy who found a data trail on it, oops Israel, anyway, them planes are so much more effective than the media EVER let on......

@mussolinithe4th124

Жыл бұрын

@@Piddlefoots I agree with you but like it’s a 5th gen vs a 4th gen it’s like a bazooka vs a stick who would win? Jsut that Russia and China and other enemy countries are incapable of perfecting their 5th gen fighters before we get our 6th gen

This did a really good job of demonstrating how it must feel to face a stealth aircraft, its not '"invisible" you know its somewhere in front but you don't know range, velocity or any useful parameter. Kind of feels like you sit there and wait for your faith

Christ, that was nerve-wracking! You had GREAT instincts regarding that first missile-that was good. I mean, considering how freakin’ spooky the whole engagement was. Great show, mate; I was on the edge of mi seat.

@peterbenefield187

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy.

So I called the suicide hotline and said I just wanted to end it all. They got really excited and asked if I could fly a Nork jet against F22

@sundownfilms9058

3 жыл бұрын

Hah

@sundownfilms9058

3 жыл бұрын

If I commit suicide it will be by flying a mig29 over area 51

Yesss love the vid! Been watching this channel for over a year now, best DCS videos on KZread. P.S. love that you’re adding realistic backstories now

3:46 RWR tells you that the radar that's painting you is roughly at the same altitude as your plane. It's these two pieces in the center of RWR. They are both lit.

Nice video! The take off shot is gorgeous. Desktop background worthy

This is so sick! Time to binge watch these types of videos for a while

“That was our only Mig 29...” LMAOOOOO

I can just imagine the feeling of "there's something out there.. in the dark... coming for me..." Thanks GS!

Oh man that was really good, your commentary truly makes it all work. That was fun to watch.

@GrowlingSidewinder

2 жыл бұрын

thank you, glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching.

That was so entertaining. I love the orchestral score during analysis, it means I can listen to your content as I try to get to sleep

@GrowlingSidewinder

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brad glad you enjoyed brother

My daughter and I laughed out loud when he said, "Mistakes were made! Mistakes were made!"

No contest: you are fighting with your eyes blind-folded, he can see you anywhere you go. Absolutely no contest.

@1563ckg43

3 жыл бұрын

The price of technology to those who can afford it or create it. That’s real world. And why we train so deeply and seriously. Things just might show up that leave you at a disadvantage. Or a primary offensive/defensive system fails. Some many factors must be checked good to go before stealth truly works. A mistake or error in any of these you must still rely on the fact you are still fling a very capable Gen4 plane. That in depth training and maintenance is what keeps it great, but damn, the price tag is steep.

@michaelwong4303

3 жыл бұрын

@@1563ckg43 of course we assume that the training level is similar....

@1563ckg43

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwong4303 Not necessarily, Russian aggressor squadrons pilots train differently than ours.

@michaelwong4303

3 жыл бұрын

@@1563ckg43 ok they may train differently but what i mean is similar "overall" skill level.

@1563ckg43

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwong4303 Every country has its ace’s that perform outside the envelope of their standard of training. Who knows. The USA has 2-3 times the class room and theory. And 4 times the flight hours. And if any are fling Tier 1 aircraft have been fling for years. All highly respected and top notch in their field. But even with that you still get a top 10% and a bottom so to speak. And we still have people whom train others, and still fly from the last 3 campaigns. But somewhere their is a somebody with that sixth sense. Can kill and down planes like some aerial automaton, always outside the box. You could have true real life aces that couldn’t play a very similar game. Or a world class gamer that couldn’t taxi or take-off going down the runway.

You’re dialogue before the fights makes me love you’re channel aside from the actual content

Guys, we just witnessed a baby seal clubbing. At least it took 3 AMRAAMs!

"Supreme leader's gonna be pissed; that was our only MIG-29" OMG I laughed so hard I scared the wife

Alright, you had me at " Supreme Leader is gonna be pissed" LOL! I watched this channel from afar...I just sub'd . Great stuff!

@GrowlingSidewinder

3 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks Henry welcome to the channel brother.

Excellent! And you did a great job considering there isn't anything to be done in that situation. And liked the kick back attitude of the vidy. O7

I enjoyed it. It's definitely good to see it from the other side. thanks

I'll say though, that North Korean green paint actually looks pretty nice

@nogisonoko5409

3 жыл бұрын

I know right

Next time: 5 Migs 29s vs 1 F-22

@lucidclanyt1525

3 жыл бұрын

Not worth it they did like 4 f-16 vs 1 f-22 in real life and let’s say the F-16’s didn’t make it back home.

@1563ckg43

3 жыл бұрын

Yep good scenario you have to gun down at least 1-3 if missiles miss.

Very interesting vid!! Interesting perspective and honestly this would be terrifying.

Look before I watch it... This is going to be great! Thanks and luv it!

"When I saw those Mustangs over Berlin, I knew that the war was lost." - Herman Goering. "I knew the war was over when I heard F-22s were on their way in." - Any future leader of choice.

Mistakes were made mistakes were made 😂 I almost spit my coffee on the dash and windshield of my Mustang. As a former Boeing Space and Defense employee I’m very proud of the F22

GS, great alternative view. Keep up the great work.

Great video. My palms were sweating from the moment you took off.

You should be able to increase the radar range on the mig. You do deserve an award for defending against 3 AMRAAMs. Not to mention the first one. That thing could’ve killed anything within 60 miles.

Well..............mistakes were made 😂 I haven’t laughed so hard for a while. You have an uncanny sense of imminent doom.

Great idea. Super suspenseful in the first part.

Jesus christ man this got to be one of the best FS game ive seen. keep it up. I just sub.

I like it a lot when I'm at a disadvantage, that is a huge learning. And, GS, sry dude!!! That’s the kill!!!☝️😅

This was a fantastic video! Seeing the decisions you have to make with such a disadvantage is fascinating. Naturally my next thought is what happens if two Mig-29s are faced with the same situation? Do you just have to YOLO it after defending the first missile and hope he can only kill one of you before you merge?

@GrowlingSidewinder

3 жыл бұрын

pretty much, its basically what it feels like to a samari charging machine gun position lol. you just charge and pray.

@smallcursed2328

3 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder Also with two aircraft you might be able to triangulate the location of the F-22 by comparing radiation sensor readouts. Not a huge improvement but at least you wouldn't be stuck with just a proto-eye and your photon whiskers.

@stephentaylor1031

2 жыл бұрын

@@smallcursed2328 He can target and take down both of the Migs at the same time…so nothing really is gonna change.🥴

this was a cool one, very interesting battle dynamic here

keep em coming man awesome videos :)

North Korean pilot: It's time to dance with the angels.

The only inaccuracy I can think of in this engagement is the knowledge of the pilot. An NK pilot is only likely to know much about the 22s it seems like. My understanding is defectors regularly talk about how they are kept in the dark about the capabilities of the West though it is assumed that the NK High Command must know something about the technology. For the most part, most of the NK military don't have a clue as to what we have and what it can do. One NK colonel talked about her shock when she learned about the 117a penetrating NK air space after she had defected. It was unheard of in North Korea. The propaganda machine there is reportedly very aggressive.

@triggernm

3 жыл бұрын

Probably been indoctrinated to think they have the very best weapon systems and that americans will eject the moment they know an enemy plane is in the air.

@rsmith02

3 жыл бұрын

Don't they talk to China? Chinese intelligence and espionage is not to be trifled with.

I love BVR fights and I must say that you are simply amazing holding 2 amraams and getting hit by the 3rd one......I mean WOW 😱

Love your channel bro. Nice work

What’s it feel like to fly against a Mig 21 controlled by AI (or 8 of them?) Great show btw, really appreciate the educational aspects as well as the competition. Also, somehow I wonder if the missile logic is not representing state of the art.

wow this is gonna be a hard one to guess who wins

@bappoprottecandbappoattacc107

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still thinking to this day

My Dad worked on improving the accuracy of the sidewinder back in the 60's at Philco Ford. He also worked at General Dynamics and Honeywell. Aerospace.

Lol. The music when showing the plane’s silhouette at the beginning is money. That supreme leader shtick was really good. Keep up the good work.

The F-22 is like H.G. Wells's "The Invisible Man".

What!? You were defending instead of attacking? And you ejected! Firing squad for you and reeducation center for your familly and all your neibors!!!

@GrowlingSidewinder

3 жыл бұрын

Probably not far off from the truth

Another GREAT video...I felt helpless 'riding in the backseat' of that mig 29....

It's already very impressive to have survived that long 👍

"This GODDAMN Radar Can't See Anything"😂😂😂😂🤦‍♂️that Was Fun Bro😂🤦‍♂️maybe F14 Vs F22(BVR FIGHT)would be Interesting..

@MrRyuuzakiiii

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it would be any different

@mohammadrezaghorbani3137

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRyuuzakiiii Do You Compare The Mig29 Radar With The F14 Radar??!!do you Know What is Phoenix Missile?!

@MrRyuuzakiiii

3 жыл бұрын

@@mohammadrezaghorbani3137 I don't think the problem was the MIG's radar. The problem is that the cross section of the F22 is significant smaller, no matter what radar is painting it

@katarinatothova7060

3 жыл бұрын

@@mohammadrezaghorbani3137 have you heard about jester? He's completely useless 90% of the time

@berova

3 жыл бұрын

The only differences are the RCS of the Tomcat is much larger than the MiG and thus easier to target from farther away and the MiG slightly more agile.

Against a Russian Mig-29 which receives full upgrade packets, the F-22 might need to be concerned, however North Korea has never upgraded their Mig-29 fleet since the got them in the 80's.

@barron8006

2 жыл бұрын

what are the specs of the latest mig29? At what range is the f22 able to be picked up?

The tone of you saying "Supreme Leader" resonates something like pizza hut menu option :D

So funny video, it will keep me amused for 2021. Thanks GS.

Also can we have a dogfight with a Carrier F-14A and a Japanese Zero? I saw it in the movie Final Countdown and I’ve always been curious how that would work out irl.

This is like when isis engages m1 Abrams with Toyota trucks...

That was our only Mig-29 :D Love it. Good flying.

Very cool demonstrations.

I would love to see the full F-22 perspective of this.

@bluecrayon007

2 жыл бұрын

Nah it would literally be just sitting there going straight. Not much to see since it was so effortless

"Well I hope my last check to the life insurance company cleared.."

Try nex time to scan in snake like approach towards the target. I found it helps the narrow radar band to locate the bandit easier , or if that's not helping find a hill or high ground to circle and wait for them to come closer and than EO them. Great vid , love it ! By the way another tactic that I do apply with success in the servers is to ovveride and fire a ER so they get a tone in the cockpit and go defencive not knowing the missile is not tracking at all..... gives you more time and they might make a mistake for you to use or even go cold!

very cool video bro. thx. first time watching here.

@Growling Sidewinder I thought the F22 was no longer able to be used in DCS. If it can still be used in DCS how can you use it? Cause every time I try I can't use it.

@GrowlingSidewinder

3 жыл бұрын

its an AI F-22

This is exactly what I needed today! The only thing I wish...is to have a Nk voice over at the end! ***"oooooooooh crapoodoo anada miso, shet to, mistakutoo maydddo!

Love ur vids♥️ Keep going!!!