Can The Powerful Eagle Radar See The F-22 Raptor. | F-15E Strike Eagle Vs F-22 Raptor | CLASH | DCS
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@mikeyplayz8438
11 ай бұрын
It kinda felt like he was playing with you this whole fight. Especially when he deceived your radar with his speed and when he waited for you to find him before firing.
@edwardking186
11 ай бұрын
That was like getting hunted by a shark at the end! By the time you saw him, it was too late. I still think you should rematch both the Felon and the Raptor with the Strike Eagle armed with Meteor missiles; I think it would be a lot closer.
@narutosfoxdemon
11 ай бұрын
Su57 vs j20
@snakeriverscotto
11 ай бұрын
Would love to see the tac view breakdown!😊
@Stinger522
11 ай бұрын
@GrowlingSidewinder. Nice try against the Raptor but Toxic was toying with you like a cat with a mouse from start to finish. At least he was kind enough not to turn you into flaming microscopic particles like the Felon did yesterday. When you were trying to figure out where he was near the end, the suspense had me saying I think he's behind you multiple times. I want to see some tank-planking missions in the Strike Eagle next.
Would be pretty funny if the F-22 appeared in his rear view mirror all of a sudden. 😂
@cingular656
11 ай бұрын
This made me lol 🤣
@nisse69
11 ай бұрын
flashbacks...
@xanderwusky3001
11 ай бұрын
In the other video he is refrencing it does xd like flies behind him for a bit before he noticed
@polsatinter5400
11 ай бұрын
GS would get instant PTSD
@jdbarnes5987
11 ай бұрын
Laughs in North Korean 😂
Turns out, mirrors are still the best thing to definitely find a F-22 in close combat XD
@Yusuf13100
11 ай бұрын
@@zachansen8293 Yeah… that’s kind of the joke… from years ago. Ask the Flanker bois
@stanburk7392
11 ай бұрын
OK now that was funny.
The slowly-dawning realization that you are being hunted... I'm the biggest F-15 fanboy there is, and *I* did not think you'd last that long, GS. Nicely done.
@laa98l
11 ай бұрын
F15 may be aging but it's up there with the tomcat as the coolest jets of all time imo
@bobbythomas6520
11 ай бұрын
@@laa98lF-22 is just next level, they’re all fantastic and F-15 is the best performing, but the F-22 is so ridiculous compared to other jets it’s kinda insane
@dream8870
11 ай бұрын
@@bobbythomas6520it’s a Ufo 😂
@Anarchy_420
11 ай бұрын
Imagine how The F-15EX would do, plus he's using AIM-120C-5... it'd make a big difference if he had C-7's on The F-15E bc he'd be able to launch around 60 miles with The F-15E's powerful radar and C-7's range! Lol AIM-120D would make an even bigger difference ;)
@bobbythomas6520
11 ай бұрын
@@Anarchy_420 F-22 still probably gonna stomp it
That f22 vs su27 was so hurtful that even after 2 years you are still getting anxiety about f22 being in formation in your 7 😂
@Bomkz
7 ай бұрын
Impromptu formation phobia. 💀💀
You can actually see him 12:48 flying to the eagle's six. The fact that aircraft are becoming so stealth now that BFM has come back into play is crazy to think about.
@touchgrass7078
11 ай бұрын
yo i see him lol
@imnotfatjustfluffy2888
11 ай бұрын
Damn thats good eyesight, it took me like 5 minutes to find him
@bradulovic82
11 ай бұрын
Very nice catch, it is barely visible for a split second, but you can see him coming over that water and tall buildings on the left/upper side of the screen.
@timothymaher5328
11 ай бұрын
I saw that shit and I yelled at my computer like I was in the audience of a horror movie trying to warn him not to go in the basement.
@jasondeeprose3161
11 ай бұрын
@@timothymaher5328 HA! That's exactly how I felt.
I have a feeling that Toxic said "Surprise, Mother 'expletive'!" when he rolled in on your six. The more Toxic flies the F-22, the better he will get.
@devildog1989
11 ай бұрын
Some fries mother flucker
@GrowlingSidewinder
11 ай бұрын
looool I would imagine something like that went through his mind also.
@peatbogg3688
11 ай бұрын
Whereas if it had been the other way around, the line would have been "Hold this my dude" 😁
that eerie radar silence, better than any horror movie!
F-15E, “I can see you”. F-22, “I can smell your fear.”
@bestskateboreder
11 ай бұрын
bro 😂😂😂
@knndyskful
11 ай бұрын
*darth vader voice
@heatblast876
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, 60 miles, that is a way too big range for the F15E to see the F22 on the radar. But still, F22 is able to defeat at the close range to F15E.
@mrlt1151
11 ай бұрын
The tactics used by the F-22 in this video were scary. Intermittently using the radar. It genuinely felt like there was a predator out there stalking him.
@NATEDOG2024
11 ай бұрын
F22 the beast of the sky you can hunt me all you want but I’m going to kill you in the end
I remember Astoria awhile back about a single F-22 VS 5 F-15s in a training exercise. The F-22 won flawlessly. Each of the F-15 pilots said they couldn't find the F-22, until after they were killed.
@brianlamb7937
11 ай бұрын
IIRC that happened at Egland AFB.
@heatblast876
11 ай бұрын
It was F15C, not F15E. Did you watch the title and the model of the aircraft.
@12vibaba
11 ай бұрын
you won't find it after you are killed either😉
@brianlamb7937
11 ай бұрын
@@heatblast876 Yes and i worked both a Nellis for 7 years,
At the end of a trying week dealing with the real world, it's always so nice to take a sidebar distraction from reality and watch your videos, man. The most professional of their type on the web. As a Navy veteran with my own stories to tell about air combat at sea (decades before you were born), I watch with such locked-interest and appreciation. Thanks for being there, staying focused on your "mission", and above all, stay safe in the times to come.
Towards the end when you couldn't find him, my heart was POUNDING. Real tension. Drama. A surprise ending. This video had everything.
@kadiyahhall17
11 ай бұрын
14:36
Been watching since 100k subs and you've put out a ton of killer vids, but for some reason this one ranks up there with me. Really enjoyed this. Awesome content lately.
@GrowlingSidewinder
11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much I appreciate your support from 100k been a while lol
Definitely enjoying the F-15E content. Keep up great work GS
At least you realized it before he formed up on your wing like Sundea..
@GrowlingSidewinder
11 ай бұрын
That was actually feisty I believe lol
@dystopianlucidity4448
11 ай бұрын
@@GrowlingSidewinder I’m gonna have to go back and watch that vid, but I believe you. Miss those guys!
Crazy the detail, even the wings flexing at 6:19 is cool
So intense! Toward the end, when you couldn't find him on radar and started to get the feeling you merged without seeing him, the pucker factor was through the roof!! Well done!! Can't wait to see you hit 500K.
12:49 I'm surprised he didn't see him there flying over the tall buildings near the sea. Usually GS spots them much sooner than we can.
@fluxcapacitor05
11 ай бұрын
Depends on his resolution. I could not spot it with 1080, even after looking a dozen times
You did better than I thought you would..
@GrowlingSidewinder
11 ай бұрын
Me too lol
Considering the F-22 was designed to take on F-15Cs at a 5:1 disadvantage, you did well.
@heatblast876
11 ай бұрын
That is F15E, not F15 C. Did you see the model and details on the aircraft.
@Zargabaath
10 ай бұрын
@@heatblast876 1:3 disadvantage then.
This one needed a tac view debrief and some insight on how he got close and disappeared.
@knndyskful
11 ай бұрын
I agree ☝️ +1
Anyone remember the vid where GS couldn't find the F-22 and eventually noticed him in his mirror formed up? lol Gotta love the Raptor! Great vid bud.
@craigbringman7967
11 ай бұрын
It was so funny 🤣
That’s hilarious that he was going for the same thing he did to the SU27
Flashback to that video where you were in the Suhkoi hunting the Raptor. Funniest thing on this channel ever, and there have been some good ones before.
Your videos are motivating me to play DCS
With the strike eagles powerful radar but limited by the aim 120s I’m curious how this fight would go with the eagle having aim 152 Raytheon that you tested in previous videos
For half of that fight I was screaming DROP THE TANKS!!
@bestskateboreder
11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
Seeing the F22 come up from behind so aggressively got my adrenaline pumping.
Thing is, you may be spotting a "bumblebee" but it's a bumblebee closing with you at mach 1 or 2. Probably easy to distinguish over the regular bumblebees.
@harrymack3565
11 ай бұрын
A metal bumblebee, at mach 1.5.... Still pretty impressive that the radar is essentially detecting somthing that from its POV is basically a medium sized bullet from a rifle.
Past 12:00 I was expecting F-22 Incident round 2
WSO: “we can make it if we run”. GS:”No…we cant.” WSO:*whispers* “why not?” GS: “Because were being hunted…” WSO: “oh god…”
@aztec0112
11 ай бұрын
"Clever girl...."
Bruh he didn't have to turn his radar on.....he did that just to watch you squirm 😂
The way the 22 just slithered in behind you like that. That thing’s silhouette is so unbelievably intimidating.
Imagine if the f22 told him that he “ought to go home”
Would be interested to see the Silent Eagle 👀
😅 "Ugh, it happened again.". Love it!!! That thing is a complete dawg in the air! But you gave it a hell of a fight.
Chief's gonna be even more mad about that than the over-g, I bet.
The sheer predatory ability of the F-22 is awesome. Good fight. You were not embarrassed. The F-22 is just that good.👍
The moment the F-22 came within visual range I knew it was over, good fight though it was really awesome watching them go head to head in the BVR!
Assuming the F15 can see the F22... Too many stories of F15 pilots never knowing the F22 was near and getting nailed.
@leonardocurca5652
11 ай бұрын
F15 c is the fighter f15e has more powerful radar but les fighter pedigree it is like the su 34 of the russians.
Valiant effort - lasted alot longer than many would I would guess!
You weren't counting his missile launches. He was probably outta fox 3s and the next option for him was to switch off radar and go fox 2 hunting.
@GrowlingSidewinder
11 ай бұрын
I looked at tacview he actually still had 2 more fox3 remaining lol
@J7Handle
11 ай бұрын
@@GrowlingSidewinder Was the loadout fox3 x6 and fox2 x2?
@TheRealAaronSmith
11 ай бұрын
@@J7Handle that's pretty much standard for the Raptor
@GrowlingSidewinder
11 ай бұрын
@@J7Handle for the f22 yes, he can only carry 6 fox3 in his centre bay and 2 sidewinders in the side bays
Thank you for doing a video on the F-22 Raptor. It is my favorite fighter. This video was so chilling and awesome.
How does DCS/the model builders determine the abilities of the technology of each aircraft? Like, how do we know if it's accurate when most of that stuff is secret?
@Mike_Romeo
11 ай бұрын
They dont model the secret stuff. Only the things that are available for the public and back those things up with SME (Special matter experts) that often worked with those aircraft back then. Thats btw the reason why we only have aircrafts in dcs that are at least +15 years old and nothing state of the art. The electronic warfare simulation is none existent as a example what is not available in the sim.
@joemango9782
11 ай бұрын
The modeling here are just best guest
@GrowlingSidewinder
11 ай бұрын
SME is subject matter expert, meaning actual pilots who flew the f15e in a lot of cases they are also using manuals and stuff that are declassified, somethings that are classified are simply modelled by publicly available information
As an F-15 Crew Chief, your going to owe me a case of beers
Great effort!!! Thanks for the content : )
Coming from the Viper, the Mudhen definitely has some weight on her, but has a definite edge in BVR. That radar is nuts. Loving it
"Does stealth matter?" Yea, apparently it does lol
The moment that f22 appeared on his 6 looping around I just kept singing the Jaws theme song lol.
Even better, now you don't have to explain the over-g to the Crew chief 😂
“I’ve had this happen before” was waiting on him to form up 😂😂😂
I’m guessing his radar is an upgraded version, but I’ve heard enough accounts from pilots to be confident that the F-15C radar in the early 2000s couldn’t pick up the F 22 at all. There was even a genuine inquiry from some of the pilots at one point as to whether or not the F-22’s were flying, or if they were being put into a simulation, because they never saw them at all in multiple engagements, on RADAR or visually. I’m suspicious that the F-15E RADAR in DCS is accurate. Wonder if an update will fix this…
@thystaff742
11 ай бұрын
They could have programed the F15E with a theory of the F15X radar.
@stevenelson9006
11 ай бұрын
As a retired Air Battle Manager I can assure you there is no contest between the two.
The only reasonable follow-up to yesterday's video! Video idea: Dogfights thru the eras. Gen 1-5 US aircraft fight adversaries of the same gen from the USSR/Russia
Good video as usual 🤗👍. Now it would be interesting to see: Eurofighter vs Felon BVR Eurofighter vs F15 BVR 🤩
Well the RWR can detect an opposing aircraft at ^2 of the distance between the two aircraft. Whereas your aircraft can only pick up the opposing aircraft at ^4 of the distance (as a rough example) Therefore, if the RWR is good enough, any aircraft should be able to sneak up on another in such isolated circumstances. Assuming their opponent leaves their own radar on the whole time.
12:51 - above the tall buildings as you looked back to the right, spotted movement before he formed up on ya. This was a great video to watch, and no question about it, the F-15E radar is so strong!
F-22 is like "Really? Come on bro, I've been playing with you the whole time."
These vids are great! I was getting nervous too, at the end, just watching. Nothing creeps out like the feeling of being stalked.
When the F22 turns off its radar. It might as well have a Romulan Cloaking device.
That had me butt clenching when you lost him haha good content!
F22: I'm tired of the BVR missile slinging. I'm coming too you!
First the Felon, then the raptor. Eagle has been goin through the ringer.
We need F-15E vs F-35 next!
I literally started laughing out loud at about 13:10 when that radar indicator went off. What a fight until it wasn't anymore, haha. Thanks for these great videos. Love all of them!
I see the F-15 I click
@mikeyplayz8438
11 ай бұрын
Same with me but with the F-14, F-18, Eurofighter, F-22 and SU-57 added with it.
@dcspilotjeff
11 ай бұрын
Me see fighter jet, me click
F/A-18G Growler vs F22? I wonder what radar-jamming would bring to the table
@knndyskful
11 ай бұрын
Ooh I like the idea 👏 +1
@Stinger522
11 ай бұрын
EW is not in DCS
@IC3XR
11 ай бұрын
@@Stinger522 it would be nice to have it modded in though
I see f22 i click
@oscarcapellan311
11 ай бұрын
You're a simple man
@TechLoverforever313
11 ай бұрын
@@oscarcapellan311i think You meant primitif
Playing Peek-a-Boo with a F-22 is not recommended 😂.
Max afterburner should react to this, nice flying until real stealth was met at the end
would have loved to see it from the F22s perspective… how much he had to work to keep the AMRAAMs of his back… or was it just a few moves here and there and lock broke? … good fight… he didnt manage to beat you in a BVR… I believe thats big.
GS: "Crew chief won't care if I score a F22 Kill!" F22: "Omaeomae wa mou shindeiru desu"
When the F-22 notches it’s radar cross section becomes the size of a bee apparently so that may be why you pick him up on radar when he commits vs notches
I was asking this question as soon as I saw the video yesterday.
I'd love to see the tach view of this and commentary from Toxic on what he was thinking and doing during the engagement.
F-15E: I can see you! F-22: Did you see me behind you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another F-22 snuck up on you again! LOL! Great video!
Half way thru this video I was yelling at the screen “ he’s going to form up on your wing again haha. Sure enough he hit your six. He was cutting his radar on and off to catch you. That’s why you were losing him.
i like how the f-22 vanished off radar and popped up on your 6 lol
id like to see this repeated with a WSO who would operate your radars and provide targeting data
Now that I got to watch it, 22 or 23 days of asking for it payed off!!! By far the best BVR performance agasint the F22 I've ever seen!!
That raptor. What beautiful jet. Bring her back into production USAF
@RajaHindustaniEkNumber
11 ай бұрын
Only if you are willing to pay chief
good video, thanks
Great video. You did really well against the F22. It’s hard to beat the king.
Air superiority fighter vs air dominance fighter.,. Jolly good show on surviving that long.
The panicked mode is inevitable this time😅
Great video and fight!
Well at least it was better than last time, when the F22 pulled formation on him 😂
That was pretty intense towards the end, like a good thriller movie 👍
cant wait for dogfights with this thing
Reminds me of the top gun maverick quote: 'It's not the plane, it's the pilot.' Sometimes it doesn't matter who the pilot is when they are facing an F-22.😀😀
@ghostviggen
11 ай бұрын
Of course the pilot matter. Put me in a F22 and I would get stuck on the runway looking for the canopy switch or crashing at takeoff.
@Hero-Gandalf
11 ай бұрын
@@ghostviggenwell, you are not a pilot
i have often wondered if yo can use datalink and multiple aircraft to create a better lock. eg 3 small signals = 1 larger one.
@dizzyizzie6354
11 ай бұрын
Most certainly what f-35s do
F22 came in HOT!!!! That was impressive.
Long format versions of this would be great.
GS I love it you post WINS and LOSSES great fight.
This should be good *after watching, can confirm, was good.*
I would love to see the F14D vs the F22. Give it the best AIM-54C and the APG-71 and see how she fares against the F22 or F35.
@Mike_Romeo
11 ай бұрын
We dont have the F-14D in this sim
feels like watching someone play a horror game
Those few moments of no contact were genuinely creepy.
At least you spotted him before he formed up on your wing this time.
I love your videos keep it up