His family is gonna regret not having an autopsy

@adamroberts8726

6 жыл бұрын

wildcats09ful he stole propoganda

@pythomas29

6 жыл бұрын

wildcats09ful I agree

@redragon9588

5 жыл бұрын

jojofromtx exactly, everyone here is closeminded

@loulou7963

5 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I just can’t believe they refused.

@Ytuser-po2xn

5 жыл бұрын

@jojofromtx He's on video doing it. He thought gay white privilege would work there. He stole and was punished his life is no more valuable then a NK citizen.

I'm amazed how many people seem to believe that Otto did what the NKs claim he did to begin with.

@Managerie

6 жыл бұрын

Vic McLaglen he was definitely set the fuck up.. poor kid!! but no American should step foot in North Korea !!!!!

@Notorious1441

6 жыл бұрын

Whether he did or did not steal a poster should be the least of anyone's concerns with this story.

@Cindy-wk9io

5 жыл бұрын

true, Otto doesn't deserve the kind of treatment he received. It was tragic when people worry more about him being the thief rather than being the victim of inhumane torture to the dprk

@Ytuser-po2xn

5 жыл бұрын

He stole and that's a severe crime there. So he deserved his severe punishment just like anyone else there. He's not special just because he's a white American.

@dscrecords817

5 жыл бұрын

Regardless it is still a fact that he went to the 5th floor (when told not to)

Why is there no autopsy? Something is wrong here.

@x-creator4460

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, something is VERY wrong and fishy!! Autopsy would have clarified all the speculations, and yet they refused to have autopsy. Doesn't make any sense to me !

@auntmaddie

7 жыл бұрын

I'm a parent and found it off, however if this was one of my babies, no...I couldn't have handled hearing God knows what. I will say I'm surprised the government/military didn't more insist, if it's legal. I know there were no marks on the body, he had several MRI's to see what was happening on the inside...not sure *all* the government or family know...but as a parent, I was bouncing it around my noggin. If he wasn't on a ventilator, I thought it different he passed within a few days of being home :( this entire situation is just heartbreaking...I agree, tho, seems odd. I don't think he should bluster is was chemical...someone said there are many ways to stop oxygen flow. A bag over the head...hell.another Dr mentioned an oxygen derivation chamber (Deadpool). I mean they know what happened...oxygen flow stopped and caused cardiac arrest. Not sure they neeedd an autopsy anyway being able to check/see everything in a persons body today, then again we only know what we're being told. I know DPRK refused to let the international medical people check him even once the whole time :(

@alfrede.neuman2267

7 жыл бұрын

No autopsy because they want the American public to believe fake news that his brain injury is from torture or poisoning, rather than the more likely cause: a botched suicide attempt by hanging.

@auntmaddie

7 жыл бұрын

Alfred E. Neuman I wouldn't say it's 'more'' likely at all. Interesting idea. not sure I see him having the time, means, privacy, and he was found in time to be 'saved' blah...they said there was no physical trauma to the body...when would he have attempted earlier or latter? I mean IF there was brain tissue erosion etc...I thought it odd he wasn't held in quarrentine for quite sometime...and that he came home via Alaska to his home state. We have/had a base in Germany with the best medical care overseas...I think most Americans have gone *there* before returning home...I assumed over the Pacific, no mention of Germany he landed in Alaska...and why did he pass 6 days after? I feel ya. The whole thing just struck such a chord. Supposedly the website all was scheduled thru made it sound Hella safe (fun even) for the Sicko's blaming the poor kid. Gotta love victim blaming. I actually *hope* you're correct. I really do. ☮️

@mmgz1000

7 жыл бұрын

Somehow the guy collected a lot of pills and he swallowed them all to commit suicide, and then while he was unconscious the North Koreans gave him more drugs trying to save him but they made the situation worse stopping his heart leading to low oxygen brain. When they realized the situation they decided to let him go because a half dead prisoner is useless for them, its better to N.K. to keep their american prisoners alive to negotiate UN sanctions and stuff. I think that´s why the parents don´t want an autopsy.

We don't know what caused Warmbier's lack of oxygen to cause him brain damage. It could have been a pillow over his face, unexpected reaction to a chemical, or a botched attempt at his own suicide. No matter what caused it, this is North Korea's responsibility.

I never knew Otto personally but I miss him. I want justice for him. Say his full name daily. Scream it as loud as you can for him. Justice for Otto Frederick Warmbier!

AND PARENT DONT WANT A AUTOPSY CRAZY AS SHIT

@alfrede.neuman2267

7 жыл бұрын

They want people to believe N. Korea tortured or poisoned him, instead of the more likely cause of his brain injury: failed suicide attempt by hanging.

@StoicSwagger

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@veryangrypigeon

7 жыл бұрын

Seriously shut up. If you have never lost anyone from your immediate family then you have no idea how it would feel to have the world's news agencies go on and on and on about your sons death when your son is gone forever.

@DoggP220

7 жыл бұрын

Mary Reed obviously something had been told to the family by the WhiteHouse, government or speakers on why they shouldn't have an autopsy. I believe it's because e committed suicidez

@DoggP220

7 жыл бұрын

lue mart why the fuck would they torture him he's more valuable alive then he is dead

The family may not have wanted the autopsy because they didn't want to know the details of what he had been through....the death wa probably too much. I know he was young and just a kid, but nobody should have let him go over there. It's not just Americans, either....British, French, Irish, Germans, Australians, etc.....everybody needs to stay the hell away from that place.

@Roseredeemed

6 жыл бұрын

Jewish people do not religiously believe in desecrated the body after death, they also do not take blood infusions, or transplants. The only way a autopsy is done on a Jewish person after death against there next of kinds wishes is a judge has to think it's needed had enough to go against someone's religious request.

@krollpeter

6 жыл бұрын

Almost all medical acts that can help to save a person's life are permitted under Jewish law. However certain rules apply. Jewish law has no absolute prohibition of an autopsy, but it is not easy against the wish of the next of kinds. Unless the knowledge could help now or in the future to save a life. These rules do not sound unreasonable to me. The parents requested to remove the feeding tube, so they knew he had no chance. They requested to not perform an autopsy, so they know why he died.

@kutchu2672

5 жыл бұрын

You are right

@krollpeter

5 жыл бұрын

And another thing, a 22 yo is not a kid. He knew it is a police state, he knew he is under supervision at any time, and travellers get briefed about what to do and what not. If you are unable to comply or object, don't go there. Likewise, if you are unable to stay away from drugs don't come to Singapore. God of whatever name, shade or colour will not help you. It is sick Americans call their 10 year old boy a baby.

@dankhnw8

5 жыл бұрын

Rose Lynn That's not true...

Ok, if Otto tried killing himself by hanging, then why didn't the Koreans just say that? It would most definitely get them off the hook. Why would the Koreans hide that information?

@carvercapitalequitypartner122

5 жыл бұрын

I think they did bad stuff to Otto.

@markbrown5117

5 жыл бұрын

What American would believe that?

These sick son of a bitches did this to a kid for tearing a poster down? There is no making peace with people capable of this kind of evil..

why would his family not allow a autopsy?? that is weird

@danielmcconnell2794

7 жыл бұрын

Paul Colbourne source ?

@j0hnd0e16

7 жыл бұрын

Daniel McConnell google it f*cktard www.google.com/search?q=otto+warmbier+family+autopsy&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS520US521&oq=otto+warmbier+family+autopsy&aqs=chrome..69i57.22740j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

@vpcproduction7070

7 жыл бұрын

you should check your anger issues john/ lol

@normatible9795

7 жыл бұрын

Paul Colbourne its not weird to me. If im the parent, id do the same. It is obvious he was tortured,had suffered enough,he died. As a parent, i would not want his body to be " brutalized" anymore. No more. It is illegal to perform autopsy without the consent of his next of kin,so the govt can not perform Autopsy

@vpcproduction7070

7 жыл бұрын

Norma Tible ti not want to know the cause of death specifically is very odd. we have a lie told by n korea. what kind of chenicals werw used. how can anyone not want to know

There must be JUSTICE for Otto and his family.

@lightningdriver81

6 жыл бұрын

Amanda Garcia What are you suggesting?

@freddie4536

6 жыл бұрын

justice was served to that thief

@lehy6387

6 жыл бұрын

ELITIST-KHUX How can you even say that? Did you even see the surveillance footage? It's so unclear that it is impossible to identity the person. And even if he did it he didn't deserve what happened to him period

@victorhabinshuti1925

6 жыл бұрын

Justice was served. If you decide to go NK, know that technically we are still at war with them and further, we have ruined their economy to a point where they are at times forced to eat grass for dinner and since they have nukes, our military force is out of the question, that I assure you, so don't break the laws of NK. Especially not one of it's most sacred because you will die there and no one is going to rescue you unless you are a Trump kid.

@herrfuhrertrump1407

6 жыл бұрын

Amanda Garcia Why? Peoples’ families right in America are denied JUSTICE everyday, because you sit in the jury rooms across the country and let these killer, race soldier cops go home. Otto and his family are no better than anybody else. He shouldn’t have been over there trying to steal those people’s property.

am i the only one who noticed him walking out of the court like a zombie?

such a sad story and one that the world needs to be made aware of!

Leaving court he is complete loss of control of himself. That poor guy went through something God awful.

The "kid" was a damned fool for entering that God forsaken country in the first place. Tahiti would've been a far better choice.

my heart breaks so deeply so learn the details of Ottos death.....my deepest condolences to his family

@robertstewart302

6 жыл бұрын

this guy was a thief not a spy,he was not tortured but merely isolated and was worked hard for his crime,he topped himself because he could not cope with the discipline those of Guantanamo Bay had

@stephanieduncan9143

6 жыл бұрын

Alana Delia that's how I feel for all the " blacks " killed by white cops.

@avpdallas

5 жыл бұрын

Where was the Obama administration during his time of capture and torture? NO BALLS....that's where!

Why would anyone go to North Korea in the first place? I just don't get it. All this could have been avoided if he had just gone to basically ANY OTHER country. Seriously why go to NK???

@lenitaa7938

7 жыл бұрын

Catherine Akemi Why go to Mexico or S America, China, Iraq, Iran.. etc etc! Why blame the Victim?? To justify his death??

I would say a wire of some sort was attached to his foot, something else attached to his head then electrocuted which would have caused the teeth damage as he clamps down from the shock with no mouth guard plus the current damage and the injury to his foot. Hence stopping his heart and causing his brain damage.

There is something fishy about this story... As much as I feel sorry for the kid... Why him? Why was HE set up and not another foreigner? Why didn't his parents ask for autopsy which would be a very natural thing to do? What do we know about the work of secret agencies...

The family didn't want an autopsy done...that's incomprehensible to me

Common sense tells that it was chemical. That place NK is a cess pool and he never had a chance. What shocks me is they will never be held accountable for this atrocity.

He really has absolutely no idea.

They said he would blink but could not communicate but that he would just scream as if he was trapped inside his nightmares

I wish they would have a credible doctor on. Dr. Seagull sounds like a hysterical squalling sea bird, full of maybes, theories and drama, every time he is on, regardless of the subject matter. It's obvious that the North Koreans did *something* to Warmbier. But it's also obvious that Seagull has no clue *what* they did.

Don't go to Korea. Those people killed Otto. They are all a discrace. They didn't want him to die there. That is why they released him. How would they like it if one of their own died in another country?

parents didn't want to do autopsy... WHY? N, yeah.. they murdered that dude.

Be a mother my self ,is horrific see your one son get treated like that,is horrific, my prayers go too the family,🙏🙏🙏🙏

Could it have been waterboarding?

How did they take a look at his heart like this doc claims if they didn't preform an autopsy?

Sad situation...my condolences to Ottos family

Ya'll forget that North Korea could have easily just made Warmbier disappear just like they have done with the American, David Sneddon. www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/28/family-david-sneddon-missing-us-student-says-north-korea-kidnapped-him.html If they had just hid Warmbier, then we'd never know what they did to him or when he dies on their soil.

When non Americans are caught in America it is always "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime". I feel it's prudent Americans receive the same treatment abroad.

Thank you 🙏

AUTOPSY would've answered all these questions!

If it had autopsy it doesn't have to say maybe this maybe that.

The only place that actually put on public examination why Warmbier had died.

I've wondered if his grieving parents, finding out there would be no recovery - no life...maybe they agreed to put him out of his misery when he got home. The doctors had said all his organs were working okay without assistance - just that he was a vegetable. With him in the "healthy physical state", breathing on his own, organs ok, he could have persisted for years...maybe they gave him more pain medicine that suppressed his breathing/heart. No autopsy, because it would have been found.

@BigAlWillis

7 жыл бұрын

your brain controls breathing . without proper brain function I couldn't see him living long without medical assistance

@robertlansing8681

11 ай бұрын

The Methodist church and the z society , should be asked what transpired between them . Also the criminal Trump , dumped OTTO when he said the truth about the U.S. government that has a long history of crimes against Humanity . They expect OTTO to be silent about those corrupted politicians , criminals of Washington. His family received the money that supposed to received from the church.OTTO was innocent and his error was to associate with criminals disguised as representatives of God and Jesus Christ . Korea , all Korea is also victim of the criminals of Washington. The people of Korea were victims of Washington twice , first they were giving as colony to Japan and second sliced in half and when they react there was a Korean war . The warmongers repeated all their crimes in Vietnam , Irak , Afganistan and many other places. American doctors have nothing to say , because they are part of the crime , they participated in the crimes . Forgot the school of the Americas that was in Panama and today it is in U.S. , school for assassins and torturers and terroristas.Without a toxicology report there is no proof of anything .OTTO a bright 21 years old student was a victim of this corrupted government because he wanted to help his family . He was a fighter .

BY GOING TO NORTH KOREA......HE COMMITTED..SUICIDE!!!!

I know Everyone is thinking this- May God Bless You

R.I.P. Otto Warmbier

Only Tomahawk will solve with Otto's death!

I already knew they gave him something before sending him back.

They killed him so he couldn’t tell them what he saw

Without probing his body in great detai, we still don't know how he really died...

He put himself in that situation, cant blame anyone. I know not to walk down a gang area or high crime area to avoid bad situations. He just put himself in that predicament

The torture method they used was put him in a water tank and make him breath by a straw that would explain his oxygen deficiency to his brain

He didn't have a brain in the first place if he did he would not have gone there.

Lord have metcy on this regime wat goes around comes around rip otto

And what’s really horrifying is he really didn’t seem to be treated like most prisoners. The doctors did say he didn’t have physical injuries and even malnourishment. I can’t imagine what North Korean prisoners go through, from defectors stories it’s much worst.

@sean2015

9 ай бұрын

There are no clear answers. And most Americans will naively respond to this by saying _”he shouldn’t have gone to North Korea!”_ …but thousands of Western tourists (including some Americans) visit there every year without incident. I wonder what he did to run afoul of the North Korean authorities 🤔

I dont understand why any american would go there,

@avpdallas

5 жыл бұрын

Where was the Obama administration during his time of capture and torture? NO BALLS....that's where!

Hey, you see yourselves in it? The ways of the Lord, never cease to amaze me.

This is happening in America to people!

"Hello Mr. Supreme leader.....allow me to shake your hand...(risen strip extended)"

@TheCarnivalguy

3 жыл бұрын

Did you mean Ricin?

@professorkaos2781

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCarnivalguy yep

I don't understand why someone would go to that country.

"No signs of physical trama, though?" Why are they suppressing the truth about physical trauma? Man - the parents describe a train wreck of injuries. His right foot was one giant gaping wound. His lower teeth seem rearranged by pliers. Both hands and feet were badly contorted from months of sustained neglect. PICTURES - we citizens should demand to see AUTOPSY PHOTOS as an aftermath of this poor man's fate.

3 жыл бұрын

there wasn't autopsy

thank you Fox

Omg .they just killed him.15 years for paper????wtf is paper cost more than human life?

For ppl saying failed suicide attempt why would the guards/Korean police leave him by himself. They watch everything 24/7 rm sure a rotation 1st 2nd and 3rd shifts

why was he targeted ?! Was he the only American on the tour ?

I remember seeing truth serum mentioned in my newsfeed July 2018 in reference to me

>North Korea gave Otto something to suppress breathing. But what is the purpose for stopping his breathing? Mr. Otto Warmbier was North Korea`s important hostage against the United States. Pyongyang regime wanted to use Mr. Otto Warmbier as a bargaining chip against Washington, and there was no reason for them to kill him. In fact, there were no signs of physical abuses on Mr. Warmbier`s corpse. My guess is that Mr. Otto Warmbier attempted to commit suicide (maybe hanging himself.) in despair. As a result, his brain was deprived of oxygen, and seriously damaged.

@ethan6312

7 жыл бұрын

The video clearly stated a couple of times that it was to try to get him to talk. I guess they thought they could get information from him.

@1974Coconut

6 жыл бұрын

Botulism supresses breathing. and can kill. It's possible NK is telling the truth.

@oscarjemeladonne3626

6 жыл бұрын

...it's also possible that US is lying ...for the record, we're still looking for weapons of mass destruction in Irak if you see what I mean !!!

@kynicole

6 жыл бұрын

MrEjidorie i’m late. but didn’t they say he had a huge scar on his foot from what seemed like a huge gash that wasn’t properly cared for? that’s physical abuse. or could be.

@mlouttit4924

6 жыл бұрын

I’m going with the attempted suicide theory. NK didn’t know what to do, didn’t want to lose face, didn’t want him to die in NK. The fact that his parents didn’t want an autopsy speaks volumes IMO.

This doc is a total quack and should have his license pulled for such medical ignorance.

@avpdallas

5 жыл бұрын

Just take a look at him and you know 'what happened' you numb nut. Where was the Obama administration during his time of capture and torture? NO BALLS....that's where!

The biggest question was, "Why was he stealing for the Chruch?"

3 жыл бұрын

i have the same question.i mean. for a CHURCH?

Que en paz descanse🙏🏼

Thank you, yes finally

Lack of autopsy sadly leaves too many unknowns, unfortunately giving conspiratorial speculation free reign. I suspect maybe a suicide attempt but he was resuscitated post brain damage. Drunken student prank goes horribly bad in a nightmarish way beyond any normal comprehension.

Parents don't want autopsy odd.

No autopsy. Something is wrong somewhere.

This is so untrue and I'm shamed by this man for telling untrue facts. That boy had facial damage, wounds made from abuse and torture. He was in a vegetated state for well over a year. If you are going to use this to do a story get your facts straight!! This not was traumatized for something so stupid. Taking a sign off a wall is in no way ever a crime deserving of a prison sentence or torture. This is all about a dictator that will use abuse and torture to feed his self absorbed love of himself and to breed great in those left to the choices if this evil man. He is a terrorist, make no mistake about that. Any person not of that country will be abused, tortured, killed, starved, made to do hard labor for a minimal crime. Sickens me what happened to this young boy. Our government needs to step up and make this right in giving the family of this boy and this going man the justice they so badly deserve.

I think he had a huge anxiety attack

when americans go to north korea, they risk stopping breathing. he went there on his own, he put himself at risk, how is this anyone elses fault but otto? party of personal responsibility...

He looked so terrified. I would never ever go to North Korea

I always thought that he had been druged to kill his brain.

Stop student USA... Not Corea North ... ( Please message for parent's) 😔

Is it possible that he was suffocated with a plastic bag?

That poster must have been a to die for

@vivians9392

5 жыл бұрын

He should have just.looked and not touched! What was he thinking that he could steal an object for a souvenir and not pay terribly for it. He was not well informed by anybody on NK before he left home.

@astoica1

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

three years ago today. 3.16.16 3.16.19

@BrookeWinter82

5 жыл бұрын

Awww 💔💔💔 RIP Otto.

Conjecture without proof.

Indecente, o que fizeram a este jovem....Foi Horrível.....INACREDITÁVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

After what they did to otto i have no mercy for them

DONT GO TO NORTH KOREA

fun-fact: warmbier = warm beer in german.

Ricin maybe like in the interview? Payback ?

Very sad. Poor boy

What about succinylcholine drugs.. Could they of used that and played with hus breathing as a way of torture? He is still aware if only given that correct? Good lord almighty.. I hope not..

Evidence that he MAY have been abused is not evidence, doc.

KARMA WILL COME BACK ON THEM

The instructions are simple, do not go to the staff area only. Somehow, somebody wanted to sabotage him. We don't know that he really tear off that poster, it could be the staff,it could be his friends. Just don't bring along your Americans way into other countries, respect the rules, don't try to challenge yourself. Stupid things give you stupid consequences.

Drop the A1

Sad.

Some people say that they don't want to hear about his cause of death because, if it was their own son, they wouldn't want to know the details. Maybe it's less scary to just not know. Maybe if you idiots would not repress such fears, no one would travel to north korea. Maybe it's better to just live under the fear. So I encourage anyone, dare to fear. Dare to fear for your fucking life because no one, ABOSULTE TOTALLY NO ONE, will fear for YOU. FEAR FOR YOURSELF. Maybe it's even more important than thinking for yourself. What is a life worth living under fear? The kind of life that you lose and get tortured at by NOT fearing. It is the FEAR that keeps human beings alive and flourishing! As I would rather spend another 1000 years afraid, than being tortured 1 second. Being tortured has never helped any progress into the human world, being tortured DOES NOT make you take action, will make you slower, will suck the life out of you. As a human race we OWN OUR LIVES for the people spending their time fearing. FEAR is the number one growth hormone for success. We can cry for the past, but we could damn well fear for the future, that is the thing. Imagine people fearing the holocaust? Imagine what kind of great tortures could have being avoided by fearing? people fearing for each other, rather than saying a stupid sorry after, THAT IS THE WORLD I WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN.

This guy doesn't present like a M.D.

No autopsy was done .. Any cause of death could be given...

I'm sure the other NK prisoners did this to Otto. Can't blame the government for this. Prison is a hell hole even here in America

He is guessing. This is all conjecture. He like, in my opinion this is what happened. I think, maybe. How about some facts to back up what you think might have happened.

He is no longer with the people who brought him into the world,we can speculate all we want as to what happened to Otto.My question is what are we going to do about it and for the other American,Japanese hostages that Rocket bunny has and alsothe very hungry people of his country that are mostly blind from starvation.

More than likely caused by an attempt to take his own life it's common in UK prisons left brain damaged after suicide

Dont steal even a leaf or blade of grass in nth korea.

maybe it was auto erotic asphyxiation

Don't go to north Korea Just visit my beautiful country the Philippines