to answer the question you guys had about what the neighbor calls tinfoil psychic guy that was bleeped, in japanese its "kichigai" if i remember correctly which is essentially a slur for mentally challenged people. its a super super bad word in japanese that gets bleeped and censored if its written or spoken on tv and its basically the japanese equivalent of the r slur

@jojolionchapter8230

8 ай бұрын

also, it doesnt quite really translate as just the r slur in japanese because the word itself is basically meaning someone who is violently mentally unstable, i think its less of a "slow" thing and more of a "crazy violent psycho person" thing. either way, its very discriminatory in japanese hence the censorship

@JM06261996

8 ай бұрын

This needs to be pinned

@josereyes-fd1qp

8 ай бұрын

There’s no swear words in Japan, right? That must be a really heavy insulting word.

@MaxDunk

8 ай бұрын

Look if we're gonna keep using the word "retard" for it's original meaning in daily life (to prevent or impede) you can just type it brub; no one is gonna think its for offensive reasons with the context of your post. Humans do have the ability to differentiate context and intent; and I think we're confusing and obsfucating language for questionable reasons.

@ken__2526

8 ай бұрын

​@@josereyes-fd1qpthere are many japanese swear words: chikushō (oh shit/damn), shinjimae (go to hell), shi-ne (die, very common harsh curse word actually), kutabare (basically their "fuck you"), kuso ("fuck!" or "shit!"), and many more.

What I like about this movie is that unlike other found footage movies this is actually a finished documentary and not just all the videos put in chronological order.

@hairyson94

8 ай бұрын

The guy that directed Noroi actually has an entire film series called Senritsu Kaiki File Kowasugi about a man named Endo investigating and documenting Japanese urban legends. Theyre really hard to find and I've only seen a couple of them but theyre quite fun, spooky and well made especially for the budget so far. I definitely recommend you try seeking them out! I cant remember if theyre "finished documentaries" per se, though. Still worth watching either way 😂

James the music you mentioned I think is New World Symphony 4th Movement by Dvorak. Its used in a lot of pop culture stuff, especially in Japan. Used quite well in Asuras Wrath too if I remember.

@legionare117

8 ай бұрын

It was also the original enterance theme of WWEs GUNTHER

@Nexils

8 ай бұрын

They also use it as a main theme for the Barbie Rapunzel movie 😆

That sauce on the eggs is either ketchup or barbecue sauce. The Japanese love that flavor combination; there's even a restaurant famous for it's "omurice" which is an omelette atop a pile of rice topped with ketchup.

@seanquek3231

8 ай бұрын

it is a omelette optionally topped with ketchup on top of fried rice

In highschool me and my friends had horror movie nights where we consistently tried to one up each other. I hunted this film down on a sketchy streaming service around 2012, before it was widely distributed and it really added to the whole found footage, “this could have happened” feeling. Absolute gem of a movie, highly recommended it if you haven’t seen it. The sound design alone is horrifying!

Let's fuckin gooooo. One of the best Japanese films at truly getting under your skin, right up there with Pulse

@RukoHanaji

8 ай бұрын

God, I love this movie. And rewatching it is great to pick up missed details.

Noroi honestly reminded me a lot of Analog Horror type stuff. A splicing of text, found footage, and TV footage is similar to some Analog horror.

@thehorrorarchive

8 ай бұрын

but predates it however

@NineteenInFrench

Ай бұрын

but actually scary

I always thought "tin foil hat guy" acted the way he did because the physic power was too much for him to handle and it ruined his brain.

@benjamina6618

8 ай бұрын

I was under the impression he was seeing the “worms” he was talking about, just in the sky and shit and had lost it due to stress

20:56 - yeah, they're saying "kichigai" which is like an extremely vulgar way of calling someone crazy, and would be censored on those kind of shows.

The manner in which they manage to make everything super realistic ( the TV shows with the psychics, the village with the weird symbol ) is incredible. It's the War and Peace of found footage.

I really miss Lucy. I hope her and Molly can learn to get along. I just finished watching Noroi on Shudder. I was pleasantly surprised with this movie. Thank you for watching this

You should watch Cult and Occult by this same director. They’re also found footage. Noroi is the most put-together (and least bizarre) of these movies, but they’re actually all part of the same cinematic universe. And Tinfoil Hat definitely feels more at home in the wider story

Noroi is a perfect mash-up between J-horror and found footage genre, truly nailed it

Noroi is an all timer for me. Incredible film.

@ErinIsBack

8 ай бұрын

Yup

@knightwing1294

8 ай бұрын

Same

This movie freaked me out toward the end of the movie but at the beginning when when the little girl was like “Bye-Bye” then 5 days later the family dies I honestly busted out laughing. The tone changes was too drastic.

@atillacelik2736

7 ай бұрын

I watched this movie pretty recently and I inadvertently made a honking sound at that exact moment.

DUDE! James needs to start linking his shirts! SO DOPE! James Swag needs it's own segment. lol

@nomwaitisthisurhead

8 ай бұрын

AMERI CAMDEN ‘GRAFFITI POKEMON’ SHIRT is what it's called. :)

@drewgoin8849

8 ай бұрын

What was Chelsea saying was the design on her missing sweatshirt? Grabby? Kurabi?

@bee-om2ry

8 ай бұрын

@@drewgoin8849fairly sure it’s Keroppi from Sanrio (ie the universe with hello kitty). He’s a cute little frog 🐸

I’m only a few minutes in so apologies if this does get addressed- but Koji Shiraishi’s filmography is insane and he’s god such an impressive style of found footage. He’s got his own unique style of cosmic horror and it’s always so much fun.

That entire end sequence scarred me so bad. I couldn't get THAT particular 2-second long frame out of my head for like a week.

Molly is just like the dog I adopted from my dad when he died. He's a tiny old chihuahua with no weight to throw around and it took two years for him to be cool with my cat lol.

@icycandiee6343

8 ай бұрын

So sorry for your loss. What was his/her name?

Just re-watched this the other day! So few found footage films can bring me back to them and keep their magic after a first time viewing, but noroi gets even more scary the more you watch it

James, the song you thought was from Battle Royale is Dvorak's Symphony No. 9's 4th movement! It's used in SO much media so its not surprising that it sounded familiar!

@darksableye

5 ай бұрын

shout out to Luffy vs Crocodile round 3!

I really want to see James and Chelsea reacting to every Koji Shiraishi's Movies, Senritsu, Occult, ETC.

@thehorrorarchive

8 ай бұрын

Cult (2013) another one of Shiraishi’s films is apart of the Ichise Horror Trio: Cult (2013), The Crone (2013) & Talk To The Dead (2013)

we have a shih tzu mix and she's a lot like Molly. she LOVES being on someone's lap and acts like she's a big scary guard dog. love James' shirt

The sound that plays when the blue faces are appearing made me throw my headphones the first time I heard it. Im not usually super affected by sounds like that one but it triggered a legit flight response lol

29:22 James says “Granny’s home” like Ricky said “Garbage day” in Silent Night Deadly Night 2.

One of the scariest movies ever made, and you don't hear too much about it

@gopherz

8 ай бұрын

Agreed

One of my favorite found footage movies of all time. I clicked so fast.

I miss Lucy! I mean I love the set but I kinda miss the old podcast when she would be on the table.

To this day, this is one of the only horror movies where I revisit it, and then find myself checking over my shoulder for the next day or two. The atmosphere it creates is unreal levels of paranoia inducing

Guys, thank you for your amazing podcast! I've listened or watched most of them. By the way, the inscription on the piece of paper in the movie you thought was an equation actually was a Russian word "звезда" which translates into English as "star".

James rockin the sickest Pokémon shirt I’ve ever seen

@nomwaitisthisurhead

8 ай бұрын

AMERI CAMDEN ‘GRAFFITI POKEMON’ SHIRT if you want to find it :)

I don't know if there is a correct way to make a formal suggestion for movies for you guys to watch, but Gonjiam: Haunted Asylum is one of the best horror movies I have ever watched. I would love to see it covered on the channel! Thanks for the hours of entertainment!

this was honestly one of the best found footages i've ever watched, really wasn't expecting it to be so great. all the threads of the people connecting at the end and all the footage looking more real than like a movie, just really impressive

Noroi, my 5th favorite Japanese horror movie and all time favorite found footage horror movie

If you guys are ever struggling to get your dog to accept your cat and vice versa, try rubbing some catnip on the dog's fur and reward both of them every time they enter a room the other is in/ the podcast room. Every time you carry Lucy in, give a treat to Molly and Lucy and make it a happy thing for them to look forward to. Soon they'll start to see that their sibling means treats and get excited to see them entering!

Noroi was an accidental find for me while trying to find something new for Friday horror night and since then it became my NUMBER FAVORITE!!!!

This has been one of my favorite movies for almost a decade, a fan sub was available on KZread several years ago and I was telling everyone I knew to watch it ASAP before it got taken down. I’m so glad it’s finally gotten proper distribution and the Western recognition it’s always deserved!

so glad yal covered this. i watched this couple of years ago with lake mungo in my dorm room on youtube and vimeo respectively lol. happy that we've got a better quality cut now

First time I watched this was the most a movie has ever scared me. When it was over, I was too scared to get up and go to bed.

It is sad that we haven't seen dead meat cover J-Horror at all(?). I think he mentioned problems with lisence a while back? Hopefully we can get Ringu and Ju-On one day + a ton of other gems! 90-2000s J-Horror Movies are a master piece that western people don't know at all or care.

@romangunter621

8 ай бұрын

I 2nd this notion

@3MrArtist3

8 ай бұрын

Japan is super strict about copyright law. They don't really have anything like a fair use policy, so they often go after anyone that shows any copyrighted imagery from Japan. It would be sick if he could do more J-horror, but I don't know how he'd be able to.

@romangunter621

8 ай бұрын

@@3MrArtist3 James could use any potential connections that he might have to get permission from those companies to do a Kill Count of a Japanese horror movie since he's already able to do Podcasts

@ALilMayhemMayhaps

8 ай бұрын

@@romangunter621he tries, but look at Train To Busan kill count his connections made that still take 6 months to get back

@RogueVideoRaven

8 ай бұрын

Isn’t Battle Royale horror?

I think Noroi is my fav horror movie ever! I'm planning to watch Occult next

idk if you guys will see this comment or not, but another thing i wanted to say since i absolutely love this movie and research for it might be hard to non-japanese viewers is very difficult is that this movie actually had a ton of really cool mixed-media type of promotion when it was first releasing in japan akin to stuff like the blair witch project. like for example, there was a bunch of websites and blogs that were made that were like kobayashi's blog with all of his books and documentaries that he's made, a fan blog dedicated to him, etc and i think that stuff is super cool lol. i dont remember the exact specific term for it in japanese, but ESPECIALLY in 2005 there was a massive wave of like found footage ghost/supernatural media in japan that is kind of phrased as like real, actual events that happened with interviews and everything like that. theyre all made in found footage style and theyre super super authentic looking across the board, usually made as like vignettes in an overall bigger horror anthology series. they never really caught on in the west, but i think its a neat little subgenre of horror thats worth checking out if youre able to get past the language barrier. the director of this movie, koji shiraishi, has actually made a ton of smaller vignettes in this style throughout the 00s and 2010s but this is by far one of his most well known works. there's also a ton of deleted/unreleased footage that would have made this movie a lot longer, but i think its also worth checking out these scenes because its just interesting stuff like more of kobayashi's other documentaries and an entire other plot line about kagutaba slowly exerting influence over like the entire world at one point (?). it doesnt really change the main story in any way but its definitely interesting to check out if you can find it

Rip in pieces to the keroppi shirt. I love love love keroppi so much that makes me so sad. :’) 💚

@drewgoin8849

8 ай бұрын

I was tearing my hair out trying to figure out what word she was saying. Thank you!!

@princeapoopoo5787

8 ай бұрын

I sleep with a keroppi plush. I love him so much too he's so cute 😭

Love that they mention that they watched the haunting of hill house and I hope in the future they will talk about more mike flannagan series like midnight mass👀👀👀

Thank you Dead Meat for uploading this Podcast!!! I really enjoyed watching it and listening to it.

19:16 I believe it is a classical piece that’s been used in many different media, including One Piece and Gunther/Walters entrance in WWE. It’s been used in plenty more but those are the ones that pop to my head

@drewgoin8849

8 ай бұрын

I thought it sounded like a piece of music from the early '80s "Conan the Barbarian" film.

great podcast episode! i could listen to yall talk about horror stuff forever

love how they keep expanding into genres i love

yayyyy i love noroi!!!! im so happy you guys are reviewing more jhorror :D

I like how detailed you guys explain the plot. It's kind of like when I'm too scared to watch a horror film so I read the Wikipedia plot summary instead...but this is more in depth and fun

Yessss, I love Noroi. And by love I mean I was in agony watching every minute of it and that I couldn't sleep for a few days after.

I just watched this film recently. The ending is always such an abrasive but perfect closer

My friend Luis is a camera OP on Ghost Hunters. It is indeed corny as hell in person. He also said shooting the creepy B roll of the locations is actually the scariest part, since they are all off on their own shooting separately. The hosts also encourage them to listen to horror movie soundtracks and spooky music to get them in that head space. Corny show, apparently really cool guys though.

This was 80% Chelsea talking and 20% James agreeing. It seems she is the bigger fan

That's why the kid liked the eggs so much! Eggs are unborn of another species!

This movie is so specific in its vibes

I somehow saw this one at least a decade ago, I remember finding it on KZread in college. Back then, 2012-ish, KZread was a free for all when it came to horror movies. I watched stuff like Martyrs, A Serbian Film, and Antichrist on KZread back in the day. I don't even think they were all age restricted. What a time to be alive.

I can’t wait to watch this tonight and then come back to the podcast

One of these movies that I completely forgot about. Had to look up my Letterboxd review to see what I think of it haha

Ive been hoping you would review this and put in a recommendation a couple years ago and I am beyond ecstatic you covered it! its one of my favorite movies :)

this is one of my favorite horror movies. Great to see u both covering it

I really hope this movie eventually gets a blu ray release. I first watched it on KZread because it was so hard to find, before it ended up on Shudder that is. There are some very creepy and unsettling scenes in this movie. It does take its time but I enjoyed it. I just noticed the cat clock behind James, from the Japanese movie House (Hausu), that is so awesome.

37:34 Sorcerers and shamans are synonyms in Japanese. That is why in Jujutsu Kaisen it occasionally has translations say either Jujutsu Sorcerer or Jujutsu Shaman.

The shrine scene was terrifying! Just unsettling in all the right and wrong ways.

YES! Was hoping you guys would get around to this one.

Yo i was so hyped when this ep was annpunced. But now i gotta wait till tonight to listen so what a tease!

I just came here for an idea I’d like to share, after the kill pie chart and before the golden chainsaw, you give us a scare meter, based on how scary you thought the movie was, it doesn’t add anything but personal insight

Well, what a pleasant surprise to see on the podcast. Noroi is a fantastic movie, but does require multiple viewings to get everything.

Watched this during covid thru discord with my mates. Honestly was terrifying I had to watch this at broad daylight 12PM kind of time bcs I was just too frightened. Probably one of the only few horror movies that rly gave me nightmares bcs the night after watching it I couldnt sleep. Godlike stuff would recommend

one of my favorite movies of all time.

I like to believe that Kagutaba isn’t necessarily a malevolent entity, but after a while he got sick of being summoned just to be used as a weapon and decided “oh you just want me around to hurt people? Alright, bet.”

so idk if this'll help or if its something you guys are already doing, if the cat and dog have specific areas for eating you can take a towel (or something else that soaks up smells/scents) and rub it all over [the cat] and put the towel under [the dog]'s food bowl. over time [the dog] will associate [the cat]'s scent with good things like food and treats and will be less aggressive/scared towards [the cat]. you can use the same logic and put the towel in other places like the pet's bed or where they have good things happen.

18:34 They didn't mention the spooky lady in the background when the camera pans to the right!

Chelsea looks even more incredible in this than usual. Fantastic ep as usual guys!

gotta love that the title's Curse: The Curse

The tinfoil guy in this movie is like having an Australian Alex Jones in Lake Mungo

19:20 That music is not from Battle Royale! (Although it may have been used in that film?) It's from Dvořák's 9th Symphony "From the New World", a piece he wrote when he was visiting America. It's a fascinating piece with a really interesting story and view of what "American" music was and could be in the 1800s. If you ever do more research-y episodes, the use of (classical) music in Horror would be really cool!

best found footage horror ever! First saw this back in 2015.

I just watched the Creepy kids podcasts! I watched this great movie on october from last year and its definitely top 10 Found Footage

I don't know if this said enough but I really have to give all my love and thanks to Chelsea and James for looking further into asian horror movies, which I understand its hard to understand and research either due to translations, understanding of cultures/societal norms that is quite different in some asian horrors. hopefully you are further delving into other asian horror movies

So I had to drop everything to watch this specific episode of your podcast. I had randomly discovered this movie on KZread but not in the KZread Movies section. It was just posted by someone (big hint, a lot of movies are posted for free without the KZread Movie section involved, especially with foreign movies). I think I found it during the Americanization of a lot of Japanese movies (The Ring, The Grudge, Pulse). And I started watching more J-Horror and found that title just there on KZread. It's a great film and a lot of my favorite J-Horror and K-Horror have slow burn creepiness to it. I hope you guys do more Japanese and Korean horror Like White: Melody of Death and Tag.

One of my favorite horror movies of all time

Amazing work and it's really easy to see all the efforts you put behind each and every clip guys! Please, can we expect to see the Saw X killcoung in the near future and your opinions about it?

Great in depth info

I really wanted to watch a movie last night so I watched White Noise so I could listen to the podcast... I wish I would’ve known to watch this instead 🥴🥴😭

Molly is so good at her job!

Fun thing I noticed, which may be a total coincidence but I would love if it's intentional: The dam is called 鹿見ダム, or shikami dam which isn't a real place and the kanji translates to shika/deer 鹿 mi/view 見, which yeah, seems like a very typical name for a dam in the middle of the countryside. However, Japanese is fun and if you look at it as it's written in english, you might read it as shi kami rather than shika mi which might be written shi/death 死 and kami/god 神, which when the kanji is put together (死神) is shinigami, or god of death.

I really hope they get into more foreign horror films. Would absolutely LOVE to hear what they think of Atterados

The song you hummed at 19:12 is "New World Symphony" IV

The word is probably "kichigai" which means lunatic or nut job. It's prohibited from broadcast, partly because it's outdated.

i'm dying at chelsea saying 'murica 36x instead of marika lolol

I tried to watch this immediately after watching Mad God. I was… probably not in the right mindset for it. I should try it again!

I remember watching 'Noroi : The Curse' alone in my room and I was really scared with the demon mask 🥲

I need to watch this movie again. I know I loved it but I do not remember much.

Hurray! Chelsea mentioned my comment about Shih Tzus!

Lol, not Molly and Lucy having a Mexican stand-off through the door!

Pulse would be an interesting movie for the podcast

Chelsea swears she’s not a gamer but immediately remembers a character from a game that was shown for 5 secs lol. Although Elden Ring is 10/10

*WHAT IS KAGUTABA?!* I saw this a number of years back over _Skype_ of all things, and its been a real treat since. Also, since my friend from Alberta showed this to me around that time, it all makes sense that she'd know about it first via Shudder Canada, I'll have to ask. To me, the details are indeed what separate this from possible contemporaries, like the Blair Witch and such; Kobayashi does this for a living, while three art students did Blair Witch as a lark (in the movie). To have the added cultural details of this being a different country, and to have segments like the homemade horror crew, or the wideshow coverage of Kana's abilities, made it all feel particular new. The intro TO the movie in the movie is a nice touch, where it shows this is a dramatized coverage of the footage recovered after the incident. I can understand the confusion and apparent irritation with Hori-san's inclusion in the movie at that point, but when you have an evidenced powerful psychic and are going up against a primeval spiritual adversary, you want a few weapons in your pocket. Hell, he's present at 2 of the movie's 3 top peaking moments of terror!

15:47 almost spit out my tea at this random input from James