Huesera: The Bone Woman (Dead Meat Podcast Ep. 195)
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Chelsea and James look at Huesera: The Bone Woman & talk the horrors of childbirth, weird kids, and the effects of lifelong knuckle-cracking.
Thank you to Justina Bonilla for the movie recommendation!
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"Rotating a cube in her head" absolutely killed me.
The statue is real and is located in Ocuilan, Mexico State
@Auburritos
9 ай бұрын
Oooooh new bucket list item
@MarieJes23
5 ай бұрын
More specifically in Chalma
james thinking that rotating a cube in your mind is being something talked about in specifically womens online spaces is so funny to me
@shortinsomniac76
9 ай бұрын
I mean i think ot originated on trans spaces like the joke about it, becouse it was part of the dysphoria diagnosis "only men can rotate shapes"
@chillbro1010
8 ай бұрын
Many guys worry that they're not good enough, women having a specific thing they do so they aren't bored during sex can blindside someone. From my point of view, his confusion during that time is him multitasking and reassuring himself it's just an intrusive thought.
You vs. The cube she told you not to worry about
I vote "guys, you can't put the Baby in the fridge" for best out of context quote of 2023.
@user-ys9fg4ol9s
9 ай бұрын
The first time James said " Where dat baby?? She put baby in friiidge" made me spit out my drink😂
The conversations in this episode about societal omissions and secrecy surrounding childbirth and having children--as well as the sensitive analysis of how any option you choose will have very vocal critics--was so refreshing. I swear that I could listen to Chelsea and James talk about anything. You are both my heroes.
@Kattie41
4 ай бұрын
OMG I talk to my students so much about those gory details. Being pregnant is horrible and time consuming, giving birth is agony, and then you don't sleep for at least five years while your boobs go to shit. ...But you can unplug the TV if bratty kids keep turning the volume up-and shut off the fuse for that room if they are clever little shits jajaja
Pregnancy horror is so interesting, because it’s an intersecting point for so many different fears, such as change, isolation, unmet needs or desires, the unknown, sexual violence, and death… And that’s not even close to comprehensive.
I loved this movie so much. I loved that it acknowledged that pregnancy can be an absolutely miserable experience. My pregnancy was very wanted but I felt so dehumanized with people coming up to me and touching my belly and telling me what to eat and what to watch and listen to and what to wear? Giving birth was really NBD, but pregnancy? No! Anyway, this movie made me feel seen and I cried at the end.
@tallybarnie5453
9 ай бұрын
That’s interesting. As a person who’s never had kids the giving birth part is always what scares me I didn’t even think about 9 months leading up to it cus I thought it was the “easy” part
@sinstarinablak
9 ай бұрын
God the being told what I could and couldn't eat by people who didn't actually know what they were talking about just drove me insane. My ILs really got to the point where they were treating my pregnancy as more important than me as a person and it was so dehumanizing.
@nina.robbs565
9 ай бұрын
yes!! I've never had kids, I'm not planning to, and everyone is shocked when I say it's never happening, which I find confusing. it doesn't take long to find multiple diseases and issues pregnancy can bring, ESPECIALLY the mental issues that can be triggered, and even passed down. once I saw videos of being able to see a baby's hand, pushing against the stomach, I knew it wasn't for me.
@jenloveshorror
3 ай бұрын
I feel ur pain friend!! I had super rough pregnancies plus I was legit very sick w my last pregnancy. And I wanna make it very clear that I am all about my kids & very much love my children, but being pregnant was the most horrible experience. I was so uncomfortable & always sick w that super nausea/ vomiting illness ( sorry med name slipping my mind), but had so many ppl telling me what to do but not actually hearing me that I knew something wasn't right as I knew having had 2 other before that the last one was so much worse that I just got so dang angry too. And holy crap if u tell anyone u are angry at urself for getting pregnant especially when u already have kids they act like u are evil. It was awful. Hope all is well w you now.❤💞❤️
@thekawaiislartibartfast42
3 ай бұрын
@@jenloveshorror oh, thank you! Things like this are so validating! I'm doing much better!
I saw the movie as a very stark allegory for postpartum depression/psychosis. The monster creeps closer and closer as her pregnancy progresses before culminating in trying to hurt the baby. At the end, she was trying to face down her demons but she wasn't strong enough to overcome them.
I am so down for a March Madness of awful kids and worst husbands of horror.
Hey man, you guys tried your best with the Spanish and that's what really matters. Language is more than just the sounds you make with your mouth. You're never going to get it perfect if you don't immerse yourself in the culture. I think you did a great job.
@mariatourino9545
9 ай бұрын
And Huesera is a difficult word for english speakers, I think is too soft. You tried and you did pretty good!!!
@sergioa.p5222
9 ай бұрын
Fr tho, y’all even trying to say words correctly and being humble about it is a step in the right direction. Better than ppl who don’t know at all and still act like they do. I think the H might be silent but regardless; As a Mexican/Spanish speaker myself, this is the first time I’ve seen that word hii💀🤡
@thatweirdlesbian-
9 ай бұрын
Yeah. Dont take this as an insult but rather "We are raised to make different noises."
@blueismylove3128
9 ай бұрын
@@sergioa.p5222Don't worry about not saying "hi" correctly the first time. You are better than my mother who absolutely refuses to acknowledge that the "ll"s in tortilla are silent. She is adamant on pronouncing it "tortiLLa", because according to her, "there is no wrong way to say words". Some people just don't like being wrong 😒😒.
@maca76
9 ай бұрын
@@blueismylove3128LL isnt silent though? it has a sound how are yall pronouncing it :o
The way my partner and I interpreted it was that Val's fundamentalist Christian family pressured her into pretending not to be a lesbian and are emotionally abusive. The end of it is exorcising that false life and leaving a person who can finally live her life and her truth. We definitely felt like it was a queer movie from the beginning. It was a great pod, and we love Molly's fur cut 😹
@hapikohw
9 ай бұрын
@spiderpig1029 is that what you think?
@cozyjuu2740
9 ай бұрын
@spiderpig1029 wow it’s almost like being a woman sucks and we need a way to express our pain 🤯🤯
@wjhull
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think technically James and Chelsea might have had the roles backwards: the "bone woman" who was haunting her was the feeling of loss, and her dislike for her child... and in the end, it was the mother (or the expectations of what she's supposed to be) which was exorcised leaving the version who felt broken, freeing the bone woman to leave the baby with the father and presumably move to the mountains with her girlfriend.
@jerrys1
9 ай бұрын
You actually just made the movie click for me. I was totally baffled by the ending and this makes total sense. I still hate the movie though.
@nina.robbs565
9 ай бұрын
@spiderpig1029and you think women don't? women have been, and STILL ARE, the butt of the joke in so many movies and shows.
As someone who's dealt with an identity crisis post childbirth and had horrible postpartum depression this movie sounds so intense and just terrifying to watch. I don't think I'd be able to handle watching it. The part where she puts the baby in the fridge was something I was legitimately so terrified I'd do on accident out of sleep deprivation.
as a mexican long time dead meat/practical folks fan it's very exciting to see u cover this movie
James' instant suspicion at the rotating cube bit was hilarious, and Chelsea assuring him it's not how it is. You guys are great. Also the statue seems to be in Ocuilan, it's real for sure.
Definitely need to check this movie out, it looks awesome! Watching the podcast, I was struck by the parallels between Val dunking her head playing chicken with her old friends and dunking her head for the exorcism ritual at the end. Val literally holding her breath until she's able to come up for air so often in her life feels especially thematically cool for her character. And I'm personally so tired of this "sympathetic woman" dialogue that's been in art discussions for fucking ever. Even Henrik Ibsen got so much hate for his controversial ending of A Doll's House (tl;dr - housewife leaves husband and children to figure out herself) in 1879 that he wrote a different play exploring what happens to a woman stuck in a wrong marriage her whole life (spoilers - she kinda hates her life) and THAT got panned too! It sure feels like there's no right way to be a woman on this earth!! Chelsea's right, shouldn't the discussion be about the forces that push Val to hold her breath and break her bones? Thank you for the hispanic heritage month representation!! And as a native spanish speaker, it can definitely be funny to hear gringos trying to pronounce spanish but at the end of the day you're still trying! and that means so. much.
Hearing Chelsea say that she wanted to watch more foreign horror made me think it would be really cool to see you guys talk about Noroi: The Curse, I'm really curious about your insights!
@bondfall0072
9 ай бұрын
Your wish shall soon be granted! That's the next podcast topic
the “ rat “ look for dogs is one of my favs as a fellow tiny dog owner whose little lady LOVES to be in dirt and make a mess
Speaking of horrible kids, I would love to see you guys do a podcast on The Good Son. It's a super creepy thriller with Elijah Wood and Macaulay Culken when they were kids
Hey been watching you for a few years now and I just love your videos and they have helped me get through hard times. Thank you
Shitty kids for your consideration: the two girl cousins in Krampus, and the bullies in The Toxic Avenger. Would Damien count from the Omen, or is he disqualified due to being the Antichrist?
@catvicddlm1884
9 ай бұрын
Don't forget the pranksters from Trick'r Treat.
I cannot stop thinking about the image of Chelsea just picturing a cube rotating like its in a microwave when she's like in line at the bank or dmv with like the little cartoon thought bubble over her head
Prevenge is so good, the title is silly but it’s pretty consistent with the feel of the movie. I think it would be a super fun kill count to do, Alice Lowe was actually pregnant during production and still directed and wrote it?! It’s also low budget but you can see how much love went into producing it.
i love when chelsea is Online on the podcast, it really makes me feel seen
James's face during the Vanderpump Rules conversation is PRICELESS!
As a mexican I'm so happy you covered this in the podcast! Don't worry about your spanish guys, it's the effort that counts! I would pronounce it as "Ooh-Eh-Seh-Rah" probably. My favorite parts of this episode were "The Kid of the Babadook! Why can't you be normal?!" Lmaoooo "She's got the fucking McDonalds arches on her head" dkhsdhcsdc. Pretty fun episode, glad you gave this a chance in the end.
This is probably a Drunk Disney deep cut but all I could think of upon the mention of Dave having a kid all I could think of was "Mortimer Snerd Devries has arrived" 😆
James mixing up the Barbie movie and Women Talking 😭
Thank you for talking about this movie! It was one of the best of this year, here in México horror its not well supported 😢
@brookesargent8249
9 ай бұрын
That's so wild, considering Guillermo Del Toro is one of the masters! Let's hope Mexico keeps cranking out horror because it's done so well!
As a drunk disney OG the dave update is v much appreciated🥹
The Spanish was decent (coming from a pretty competent speaker) and I’m so glad Dave is still in your lives, and has a kiddo
40+, no kids, enjoying life with the wife, no regrets.
The only thing that upsets me is the lack of Lucy in these :(
As a content creator who focuses on Latin America, I just have to say thank you from all of us to you.
the Mary statue is called "Virgen de Guadalupe" and it's in Ocuilan. It's real, and it is that fucking big
Hi there, super excited to hear about Dave and his baby! I've been a fan since the Drunk Disney days and was always curious about what happened to him. Wishing everyone on the Dead Meat team the best for this spookiest of seasons!!
I use horror to process my own emotions (don’t we all) and as someone who has just had a baby, thank you for recommending a movie that sounds like something I really need right now! 6 weeks postpartum!
Guys, GUYS LISTEN I NEED you to remember those March Madness ideas for worst husband/boyfriend and kids. That's something I want to see 😂😂 I love how in depth and seriously you consider those types of episodes
Shadow boards are amazing!!! We had one in the shop back in highschool and I swear we never lost a single tool.
Calf cramps are super common in pregnancy! In regard to the symptoms for pregnancy that no one tells you about- I don't think it is purposefully kept a secret. I don't know of anyone who purposefully conceals it or lies about it. More that it just doesn't come up in conversation unless you are pregnant or trying to become pregnant! Like, unless you are seeking those circles the conversation doesn't come up. I don't know a lot about the experience of an athlete with nutrition and work outs and injuries. Or someone's experience with chronic illness or even a severe mental illness! But it's not that people are keeping it from me - just my life experience hasn't overlapped with the those experiences. But when I started trying to become pregnant and with both births/postpartum experiences - I have found women to be very frank about what is hard and what is rewarding. I think too the pregnancy experience varies SO much from person to person, and you don't know what your experience will be like until you are pregnant. Like, you might be glowing and have everything be fabulous! Or you might be barfing for months and be put on bed rest.
The La llorona that James reference at 4:30 is a Guatemalan film (not Mexican) btw that touches on the Guatemalan genocide. It’s a good slow burning political thriller that touches on race, gender, and the injustices indigenous people faced under the far right regime with folk horror mixed in.
woke up early for my time zone and glad to have caught this !!! this movies been on my radar but i really don’t enjoy pregnancy horror. this is probably the only way i’ll be able to stomach (haha) this movie !!!!!! once again, thank you so much for the amazing content dead meat crew :)
Charley horse tip: In the morning as you’re yawning/stretching your legs, point your toes to the ceiling instead of towards the end of the bed and it will prevent them.
Thanks For Talking about This Movie Cause I wouldn't know it existed. Definitely going to check it out and Come Back And watch the podcast 👍
A dream podcast would be you guys with spencer and Chris Jericho taking about heavy metal and horror movies.
I hope the next shirt in your merch store just says, “Your womb is not a 3D printer.”
I really appreciate the effort you guys put into pronouncing words from foreign languages right! Anyway it's Wes-Era
I immediately clicked the video as soon as I saw the title, thank you for covering this. Yes the statue is real and allegedly the biggest in the world, you can find it at Ocuilan, Estado de Mexico
Right away, I am here to tell you that when a couple is trying to conceive, the act gets boring and no fun anymore. Even if the couple loves each other very much.
In spanish the "hue" at the beginning of a word has more of a "weh" kind of sound to it, so you'd pronounce it "Wehsera". Hope this was helpful 😊
Sorry to hear that another Survivor episode can't happen until the strike is done but I'm very excited for it whenever it does happen.
I know Micah from Paranormal Activity got declared already as worst horror boyfriend/husband but I gotta throw Guy Woodhouse from Rosemarys Baby in there as a worst option
Just pointing out that Molly's sweater is the cutest thing I've ever seen
Maculey Culkin in the good son is the perfect evil little kid in a movie
Lol, my mom and I almost died when she was giving birth to me, so I have a lifelong fear of childbirth and pregnancy. These types of movies are my jam. I wish more people recognized that birth is inherently terrifying.
Btw the statue is real!! The Virgen de Guadalupe statue is located El Ahuehuete national park, saludos desde México 🥳❤️
Huge fan of the podcast, I love the direction you've taken this in
Lol "she looks dumb so we put her in a sweater." 😂😂
La Llorona (2019) dir. Jayro Bustamante is a really great take! Was on Shudder last I checked.
Re: the husband's job: his friends mention he's in marketing. So it's very possible that he didn't give up his passion at all--that he just transitioned his creativity into a commercial medium. (A lot of ad creatives I know have artistic backgrounds of some sort.) You also never actually see the husband playing music, which also suggests he somehow scratches that itch at work. (And yet, it's the wife's shop they turn into a nursery, not his little studio.)
Regarding Spanish, what helped me is learning that the vowel sounds virtually never change Any accent mark just indicates which syllable to emphasize. Back-to-back vowels like "ue" might seem to make a new sound when spoken quickly, but it's really just the two individual sounds kind of colliding.
@weirdguy1495
9 ай бұрын
And the pronunciations for the vowels are as follows: A = ah E = ay I = ee O = oh U = ooh
You can do Macaulay Culkin’s Henry from the Good Son on your crappy kids March Madness list!
loved this movie, so excited to see you guys covering it!
watching this movie for the first time this morning and then seeing you guys posted this made my day haha. the statue is real! it's called "la virgen de Chalma", it's a statue of la virgen de Guadalupe and it's in Chalma, in the State of Mexico! also the best way i can write out how to pronounce Huesera would be something like wes-era. don't worry about getting the pronunciation 100% correct, we can tell you really try to pronounce foreign words right, and that's what really matters !
so happy to hear that dave is doing well!! if it wasn't for drunk disney i would have never become such a fan of horror through dead meat
Everyone loves to rotate a cube in your head. The fun activity anyone can do
I've never heard of rotating a cube in your head, i have heard "lay on your back and think of england" which is a joke of how women deal with bad wedding nights in olde times
Hey, James! Easiest way to make those leg cramps stop is to put your feet on the floor and stand. Hurts a lot but it makes them go away instantly so you don’t have to suffer for several minutes.
i watched the movie last year at the slash film festival in vienna and loved it. Really cool to see that you liked it and cover it on the podcast
The way the faceless people appeared in her life seem to be a mixture of the doubt in her motherhood abilities and her hiding the truth of her sexuality in the timeline of the movie. Interesting takes on the film and great insights from y'all as usual.
I hope the bad La Llorona movie you referred to was Curse of La Llorona. The La Llorona movie (set in Guatemala) was really good
Yesss for the shittiest horror movie partners bracket!!! (Mica would definitely be a top contender lmao)
Hearing that you are still friends with Dave makes me so happy lol. Loved Drunk Disney
i need to watch this movie 😭 this is literally my second time listening to the podcast, it sounds really interesting and i really appreciate the mention of foreign films :) (especially as a chicana)!
You guys should get MistaGG on here to talk La Llorona movies - or specifically, the really well done one on Shudder. I think he’s the expert at this point just by virtue of quantity. 😂
I think me and Chelsea did a synchronized eye roll at the end there lol, james corrects things alot
another brilliant podcast thank you
I recommend a Korean found footage horror movie called Gonjiam: Haunted Asylum. It has some pretty great scares!
Its sweet seeing them get excited about "5S" ing a workspace! It is penultimate organizing and weirdly satisfying. Like asmr for your work brain
You guys neeed to make a podcast on “house of leaves” I would love to hear you both talk about it.
I love and appreciate when you guys cover Spanish horror! Also as a Mexican, I think you guys’ pronunciation was great!!
AHHHHH I´m such a big fan of you guys and I´m so happy to see a Mexican movie on the podcast!!! especially Huesera!!! sending you so much love from Mexico PS: please don´t worry about your Spanish, it´s quite challenging if you´re not used to it, you´re trying your best and that´s what matters
Fantastic job, you two!
MOLLY AHAHAHAHA omg shes so cute. This movie was SO GOOD, thanks again for a great podcast!
I loved this movie!! glad more are talking about it
Best two sentence horror story: Finally I’m all alone. “No you’re not,” says knife guy.
Remember, the H is silent and the U is pronounced like the one in Uber (oo·br). Huesera (oo·eh·seh·ruh)
@mgreen2541
9 ай бұрын
That's not even close. Not in any dialect of Spanish I've heard
Wow! Chelsea speaking german is news to me! Dann müsst ihr mal einen deutschen Horror-Film reviewen 😉 Grüsse aus Deutschland! PS: I miss Lucy in the podcast videos. I hope she's fine ❤
@tiffyj
9 ай бұрын
"Der Nachtmahr" von Achim Bornhak aus dem Jahr 2015 wäre eine interessante Wahl.
I definitely blushed at the mention of Akron 😌💅
Fun fact about H's in Spanish. They're silent. Huesera would be pronounced weh-se-ra
James, thinking to himself: "Wait, what if rotating a cube makes it *better*?!"
Love the horror haven props ! Still drawing the" Blue Print" for mine!!! Still working on the wife and pets( EVERDAY struggle!) But horror studies and Halloween keeps me pumped!
I’m absolutely supporting both games. Great ideas
Oh god I crack basically everything in my body. I crack my neck which probably isn't the best thing in the world to do. I'm double jointed and things come out of place easier than they really should do. I can dislocate my right shoulder which is a fun party trick I like to pull out.
I was never a fan but now I love the podcast
I really liked the movie, I take it as less horror and more a look into how women (especially in certain cultures) are expected to act and be a certain way. It's a look at how toxic some traditional families can be. Great episode and I was happy to see y'all covering it.
this is kinda similar vibes as swallow to me. and speaking of…… YOU GUYS SHOULD TOTALLY DO SWALLOW. ITS SO GOOD
james has got the peanut butter and jelly fit on
if anyone wanted a tip, any spanish words that starts with an H you don’t pronounce that sound like Horchata it’s “Ore-cha-ta”
these always seemed to get uploaded when i’m listening to dndnd :)