I didn’t get the black best friend feel from Mollie. I was a bit worried at first since I’m a black woman and I’m always wary of that trope or the sassy black woman trope. But once she went from being “my white best friend is dumb” to actively trying to find her and then saving her life I think it subverted the trope nicely. Noa would have most likely died if Mollie hadn’t been there at the end and I loved that

@brookesargent8249

2 жыл бұрын

As a fellow Black woman horror and film nerd, I think what made this different than the Magical Negro trope is that we actually get to know Mollie as her own character with her own story, rather than her just being added to scenes to establish that the main character has a BFF, and then not seeing her at all until the end when she deus-ex-machinas the movie and saves her bestie. Very well done

@kunglaoshat1250

Жыл бұрын

Also when Noa has a chance to escape the first thing she does is go save Mollie. So their friendship didn’t feel one sided. They were both willing to go into dangerous situations to save the other. Mollie’s life and safety being presented as just as important as Noa’s is part of what kept it out of the stereotypical black best friend category.

@HighAsHeckPriestess

10 ай бұрын

All of y'all are so right. She's not the Black Best Friend, she's the best friend who is loved and appreciated as much as she loves and appreciates Noa. It's more like sisterhood than friendship and I love it

@cupofcait

15 күн бұрын

I actually cried for Mollie when she got caught. That's a great friend!!

Something I keep coming back to is how Chad gives that greasy speech about how "women used to be more dedicated to femininity" and how Noah "would look great in a dress" and then later Steve, who is brought in as the good love interest after Chad in the rom-com beginning, dresses her up in a pink dress with a big-ass bow on the chest

The fact that Chelsea is doing American psycho kill count is like the biggest flex since dominating Elden Ring

@cheesemanbob69

2 жыл бұрын

time stamp?

@OhWowThatsDumb

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheesemanbob69 there’s a couple to give but they mention it a few times within the first five minutes

@Taru1blm

2 жыл бұрын

No one really died in American Psycho. It was all in his head.

@ultrabigfella

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taru1blm then why did the lady that cleaned Paul Allen's apartment seem scared when Patrick said he knew what happened there? It's certainly possible that nothing happened, but don't push your fan theory onto others no matter how popular it is.

@xxnozeyxx4243

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taru1blm there’s different ways to interpret the movie

Lucy's tiny meow when being asked to make a choice at 48:17😭give her both options

@MrRccola2

Жыл бұрын

It made my heart melt 🥺

@Pandaalexx26

10 ай бұрын

James gesturing to coax her in 😂 every cat owner can relate

One of my favorite parts about the movie is Noa, Mollie, and Penny escaping and how they all worked so hard to protect each other and make sure they all got out. Like, Penny basically doesn’t even know Noa and Mollie, and tbh, I wouldn’t blame her if she was solely focused on escaping while Noa and Mollie fought off Steve, because the idea of facing the person who *amputated your leg* must be terrifying. But no, she was right there with them helping take Steve down. At one point, you can even see her in the forest background crawling to help. And then Mollie being a literal ride or die for Noa and both of them just doing the most to keep each other safe, and Mollie carrying Penny because she can’t walk, and Noa making sure they get Penny out when she really could’ve just left her. Like damn, just seeing that teamwork made me proud.

@brockollirob3812

2 жыл бұрын

I wanted to like that part, but it’s so frustrating that they don’t kill him or really make any smart decisions trying to escape.

@billyc3706

2 жыл бұрын

I think the idea of shared trauma comes into it. People bond over shared experiences, both positive or negative. They may have not had much of a personal attachment but they've had an experience between them that will last.

@teksnotdead902

2 жыл бұрын

@@brockollirob3812 This was one of the few complaints I had as well. The lack of double tap logic or taking advantage of Steve when he's borderline defenseless frustrated me a bit.

@tess..

2 жыл бұрын

Well they did beat him really bad and kill him in the woods- in the end it was the wife that was the last threat that Mollie needed to come back and save Noa from when they thought they were in the clear. But you're right he did chase them a bit in the forest when he should'a been dead in the kitchen

@shitisbigtime

2 ай бұрын

@@teksnotdead902tbh when watching it I thought they did kill him with the multiple hits to the head via meat tenderizer lol, followed by the healthy kick to the face

Steve being sloppy makes since to me. The more criminals commit a crime, especially killers, they get more blunt, hide their tracks less, and more show off. It's cause they want to show off to the police that they are smarter and more clever than others. I totally believe Steve thinks the same way

@82Jaster

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the pictures that we see on his wifes Facebook account seem relatively recent as they both look the same. So by that point he's been doing this for well over decade, if not decades. It's like you said, at some point once someone has managed to get away with a crime long enough they start to convince themselves that they're invincible, so they don't think that they need to be as careful. You can also see this with him actually paying for his and Noa's drinks with a credit card, which allowed Mollie to track him. Something you always hear from criminals on crime shows is that you always pay with cash. But paying by credit card, or sending someone a picture that could be reverse image searched is something that he's likely done many times, and that's never resulted in him getting caught. That's also what just makes him a scarier characters. Especially when you know of real crime cases where people have acted similarly. Where they've gotten away for it for so long that they're actually able to live their life in a completely normal way.

@jakejancook

2 жыл бұрын

I also found it interesting that the guys thought it was weird that he was selling their hair even tho human hair wigs can be multiple thousands of pounds

@PoppyL99

2 жыл бұрын

I just assume he's just comfortable. Like he knows he's gotten away with it for so long he's just like oh the system works I have nothing to worry about.

@wisewolftony

2 жыл бұрын

@@PoppyL99 Also not all Killers get cocky. I mean watch Mind Hunter or look up known killers and most of them refine their kills more and more as they go on. Best chance to catch most of them is at the very start when they are sloppy and don't really have a system in place. I mean killers like Ed Kemper only got caught because they turned themselves in to the police.

@blueismylove3128

10 ай бұрын

​@@PoppyL99Right, I agree with you moreso than he's being a bit of a showman. I think it's more overconfidence and like you said he's gotten away with it for so long he doesn't think he has to be as careful as before.

What I find the most interesting is that the imprisonment of the women "Steve" is butchering in the basement is almost a symbolism for abusive relationships. Melissa, Penny, and Noa all being in different stages mentally, suffering from the abuse from a man. At one point Penny is explaining to Noa that Melissa has lost her mind, and she says: "She's gone crazy. I don't blame her, no judgement here. I understand." As if Melissa is a woman so far mentally gone because the torture she underdured, and Penny being in the middle of process, knows that hopeless feeling. Noa even seeks to ask them how they can get out and who will help them, Penny responding saying that there is no one. Reminds me of how abusers will isolate and target vulnerable people. Just my take but i love how this movie is symbolic of SO MANY different experiences of women.

@iwatchyoutube6539

2 жыл бұрын

Damn I never thought a movie about imprisoning and killing and eating women could have anything to do with abusing women, but you luckily shed light on it for me thank you

@nickmerriman5373

Ай бұрын

79.34 p😊

My friend said the message behind the movie could be it’s not always the blatantly rude guys you have to worry about but the charming and “nice guys” as well. I like that message.

The movie takes place in Portland. You see that as the location on the dating app and then when the bartender looks at Molly’s location the map is Portland. And as a portlander it’s adds a lot to it that his murder house is up in forest park where all the super wealthy portlanders live.

@azaria7528

10 ай бұрын

As a vancouverite it was really weird to see that they filmed it right in my city because even though the film took place there, I easily recognized the landmarks and and stuff

The cotton candy grapes are great. They are not overly sweet, and yes...most of the time taste like cotton candy quite a bit. You two are missing out.

@fancy17e

2 жыл бұрын

yes omg especially frozen!! so good.

@CurseTheCosmos

2 жыл бұрын

They’re also not artificially flavored. It’s a hybrid grape; which in turn gives it that flavor.

@shitisbigtime

2 ай бұрын

Missing out big time. Those grapes are the shit

About horror movies that start off as romantic comedies, Audition does this masterfully.

@tess..

2 жыл бұрын

Berlin Syndrome too

@PopCultureNihilist

2 жыл бұрын

Good call

@TheLovelyLadybug

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like Red Eye also does a pretty good job.

1:07:49 literally made me spit out my coffee i jus wasnt ready LOOOOOL

@Werewolf914

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't expect to see such a famous Pro Gamer in the comments of a Dead Meat video that's pretty cool.

@blueismylove3128

10 ай бұрын

Someone needs to clip that and post it out of context 😂

horror movies have been killing it recently. can't wait for you guys to cover the new a24 movie X! its so thematically similar to texas chainsaw massacre.

@joeertman

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I would love to hear them talk abt it

@joeertman

2 жыл бұрын

@@ggg-su6ji when?

@jakejancook

2 жыл бұрын

I've only seen the trailer but that films looks one chainsaw away from copyright infringement 😂

@joeertman

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakejancook no it feels inspired by Texas chainsaw with a lot of homages but is still super original and feels somewhat similar while very different at the same, I would 100% recommend it

@NicoleCampbellAUEPortfolio

2 жыл бұрын

There's also another A24 movie coming out called Men.

“It’s like dude…. You eat people”. I died 🤣😂

The strangest thing is everyone wants a rom com with these 2 ,because the chemistry in the first 30 min is amazing

@garmen-

2 жыл бұрын

That would just be really jarring because your always be kind of expecting Sebastian Stan to eat her

@tuckershuff1441

2 жыл бұрын

@@garmen- What you do is: Have the rom-com going on in the foreground, while every now and then you see Seb Stan just dragging a body in the background.

For my late husband, his foot fetish was more about touching and smelling feet. the first time we ever messed around, no matter what position we were in or how awkward it was physically, he had his hands on one or both of my feet the entire time. I didn't know about his fetish at that time but I remember thinking wow he's really touching my feet a lot... Then like a year into our marriage he asked me to wear the same pair of socks two days in a row bc he said that would get them to the perfect smell. I was mortified and I was too embarrassed so I refused. Then about a year after that, about two and a half years into our marriage he died in a very sudden accident at work. So let that be a lesson to you. Life is short. Let your spouse smell your feet.

@Izaan2810

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't read the word "late" at first, so the climax came so unexpected. Like WOAH. I love how you presented the entire thing with humor though involving loss as well lol. Hopefully you are doing great now and RIP to your husband. Take care.

@tanjabuchholz5314

29 күн бұрын

A better lesson would be to tell your future spouse/partner before they commit to a life with you in case they don't want to accommodate your fetish. Its not cool to spring that on someone after you're already married

I’m SO GLAD you guys caught the “I love you more” thing. Every KZread review I have seen (all reviews by men, might I add) never catch that and it kills me! I have found that most of the time women are more in tune with peoples responses and the details of it, especially in the context of dating. We have to over analyze everything to feel safe.

@phaggott

2 жыл бұрын

it saddens me to hear your and chelsea's opinions of men

@joeertman

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t necessarily think it’s that people didn’t notice it, I think it’s more that they didn’t feel the need to mention it in a short-form review since it’s a small part of the plot

@dustedneonlight

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeertman I mean yeah I get that. But I do actually think it’s important cause it was that light bulbs moment for Molly to know she something wasn’t right and had to search the image and look into where Noah is. All the other reviews are skip over it, but imo it’s an important detail. I get why people wouldn’t find it necessary tho

@dustedneonlight

2 жыл бұрын

@@phaggott it’s not an opinion, it’s our experience as women.

@joeertman

2 жыл бұрын

@@dustedneonlight yeah I definitely agree it’s important to the plot I just also think that the reason you may not have heard people mention it is cuz they would be talking more abt what they like/dislike in a movie whereas James and Chelsea do that along with plot summary so it makes more sense to bring it up

i think everyone with a cat can relate to Lucy asking to come in and then leaving lol great episode as always

Molly's phone case reminds me of the book cover from Tender is the Flesh, which deals with similar topics

59:55 Yep, it's called "No, Mr. Bond, I Expect You to Dine." The villain treats the usually captive hero to dinner, often giving them fine attire for the occasion. Famous examples like Raiders of the Lost Ark, Pirates of the Caribbean and most of the Bond movies

Lucy hijacking the podcast is always a highlight

Ever since Chelsea said that American Psycho was one of her favorite horror movies, I've been on pins and needles waiting for some great Dead Meat media about it. Totally looking forward to the Kill Count on it, and I hope that there's an accompanying deep dive podcast episode on it, à la The Texas Chain Saw Massacre.

This made me appreciate the film so much more, I'll be rewatching for all those details

Based on the map that Paul looks at when he realizes Mollie is missing, I definitely think they are in Oregon. 100% looks like a map of Portland and would make sense with all of the trees, the waterfall photo and the east coast comment.

I loved Fresh. And I love you guys! You’ve reignited my love for horror movies these last couple of months. Kill counts are fun to watch right after a viewing and I often listen to the podcast while cooking. Keep up keeping up!

It is amazing that so many horror movies have been released the last year and a bit but with work and studies it is a bit overwhelming narrowing down the actual good ones to watch. After seeing your tweets about this and getting a few minutes in (and finding out it was on disney plus lol) I watched it tonight after finishing my final business law exam ever and it was great- what I wanted to see and how I wanted to see it play out, but it still managed to surprise me a few times! And gorgeous to watch- we love orange

This was one of my favorite horror movies in a long time. I’m so glad I took you guys’ recommendation and watched it before listening to the podcast! Great discussion/episode as usual! (:

So excited that y'all covered this! I can't lie this is my comfort podcast I always end up listening to the episodes twice because I fall asleep and want to hear the whole thing! Cannot wait for the American Psycho Kill Count!

i love this movie so much, im happy that my fav youtubers are makig a podcast on it

I like to listen to these podcasts while I sew, I was just going to listen to one of the older episodes when this released. A blessing from the lord! The new set is amazing!

The important question is: Is Chelsea going to cover the second American Psycho as well? XD

@ElixifyYT

2 жыл бұрын

I hope not, that movie did not need to be called “American Psycho 2”

@changelingways1353

7 ай бұрын

@@ElixifyYTwhos gonna tell them

Yes!!! I've been hoping you guys would do this one. Such a fun movie. Really enjoy your commentary and discussion. Love it!

Someone else already mentioned this but the phone cover is very likely from the book cover for Tender is the Flesh, another story about cannibalism!

The trailer for Fresh was AMAZING! It was so aesthetically unique and great and building intrigue without giving away too much

Just finished watching it and it's so good! No wonder you wanted to cover it!

Great episode! This movie was really good. I got so excited when you mentioned X, I really hope it will get a podcast episode too!

I loved this movie from start to finish!!! The story was so intriguing with humour very cleverly injected

@jeremyusreevu237

2 жыл бұрын

If by cleverly injected, you mean occasionally remembering it's a comedy.

@padtrickkeys3261

11 ай бұрын

Agreed 👍 still can't believe I trusted Him in the beginning..

I can’t wait to see Chelsea take on hosting The Killcount.

48:00 James greeting Lucy into the room like a first class passenger on the titanic AS HE SHOULD!

@basementdwellercosplay

2 жыл бұрын

That's how I react when my dog wants to come in but changed his mind

@pattomwau

2 жыл бұрын

They should put a small chair in the middle for her.

Seriously this might be your best podcasts to date, tight pacing and compelling, I literally texted my wife and said hey we should see this movie

I HAVE BEEN WAITTTTTING FOR THIS REVIEW!!!!!!! I am so excited to hear this!!!!! Love you James and Chelsea and dead meat crew!!!! So excited I’m gonna hush now and watch!!!!

love the way this format looks now!

I'm so glad yall brought up the American Psycho because Sebastian Stan as Steve reminded me of Christian Bale as Patrick

I havent listened in a while and forgot how good this podcast is

I finally got around to watching this!! I absolutely loved it!

Yay another podcast! I came for the kill counts but stayed for the podcast. I love discussing films after watching them, problem is no one around me is interested lol which is why I love to hear u guys talk about it and hear what u thought of the movie!

This movie was actually great,I had a vague idea what was gonna happen from the description of the movie,but it was such a welcome surprise

I am a simple woman. I see a new Dead Meat Podcast, I click. Thanks for covering this movie. I never thought I would find a movie where people are hacked and eaten charming.

regarding his wife - i don't think she was a former victim, i think that turning the cannibalism into a business was her idea. i got the impression they'd been together from a very young age (since he mentions having started eating people at 19, i thought maybe while he was in medical school) and she'd eventually given her leg up. the personal touches he added to each meat package and the fact that i think she says to the driver to put his body on ice makes me think she was running the business end of things even if she didn't participate in eating humans herself.

@jakejancook

2 жыл бұрын

I initially thought the Asian guy she's with at the end was, her boss or connection to a static organisation, but she does say 'we should put him on ice' suggesting she's the higher up potentially I do think however. She seemed worried over the aging of her face, kinda signaled for the friend to leave her house as husband arrived, is missing a limb, and I got the impression he was prepared to replace his wife which makes it plausible his previous wife was a victim too

@82Jaster

2 жыл бұрын

I'm certainly on the side that she was a previous victim. When he mentions that he started eating people at 19 he also mentions how it was a part of him that he couldn't share with anyone else. While obviously he's not going to bring up his wife if she were around back then, the feeling I got is that Noa had gotten him to drop his guard and he was being genuine there. He goes on to explain how started looking around to see if there were others like him and that's where the business came from. So I think that Ann got in good with him by convincing him that she'd help him with that business. And an extra element that she could add is that women often trust other women (this is what she was counting on at the end with Noa), so she could act as bait for more victims for him. In return she'd get to keep her life. There are a lot of real life stories of women helping men by luring in women for them to abuse/kill. I do agree with you on the idea that she didn't eat people. And that's why Noa's angle worked so well. His real passion was eating people, and he just managed to turn that into a business. Finding someone who also liked to do that was even more desirable than what he had with Ann. Of course Noa was just trying to get him to drop his guard low enough so that she could attack and escape while Ann was genuine her desire to just go right along with him. Which is why in the end Ann was telling the guy to toss his body on ice. She saw how lucrative it was and was willing to keep it going as long as she could.

@idunno3370

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakejancook she only wanted mollie to leave cause she knew nothing about her. unlike noa and the other victims, they don't know if mollie has family and loved ones who would look for her, they don't know if she had backup, if she was risky, which is why they were willing to let her go. once she caught them in the lie they were put in a tight spot and that's the only reason they knocked her out. the wife didn't care abt mollie at all, she just cared about not getting caught (especially in her own home with her kids and neighbrors nearby)

@jakejancook

2 жыл бұрын

@@idunno3370 I think if you rewatch it the wife initially signifies for her to leave because her husband is home. The vibe to me is that she didn't want them to meet which is either because she, as a previous victim, wants to avoid her becoming one, or she wants to stop her husband seeing that someone is onto them I think you're right in that they was only willing to let her go because they don't know anything about her but I'm more interested in the wife's thoughts at that moment

I went into this movie knowing absolutely nothing except that it was a horror. By the opening credits I was hooked but very worried about where it was going to go (I've seen too many surprise sexual assault films), but seeing female names for the director and writer calmed my anxiety and I kept watching and I'm so glad I did! Thanks to you guys for bringing this movie to my attention (I saw the thumbnail and went to watch it so I could hear your opinions)!

I went in knowing zero about this movie and it was amazing. My sister watched it and told me not to even look it up. Glad she did. That first half hour had me thinking one thing and then the real movie happens. Insane!

Love the podcasts keep it up

Another movie that I paused the podcast to go watch and man was I glad I did.

Did anyone else not get a notification for this video? It just started playing through auto play and I was like, "Oh is this a new podcast?" I checked my notifs box and it wasn't there. Anyways this was such a great listen, loved the podcast like always.

21:15 Only James and Chelsea can talk about a cannibalistic dating movie and have a conversation about Star Wars. Love you guys!

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!

the production value of the podcast never ceases to amaze me

i adored this movie and am glad to see my thoughts of how good it is and what makes it work in your discussion, and also noticing new things!!

This film is a surprising one, fun to watch from start to finish

I went in knowing nothing other than seeing James tweet. And I thoroughly enjoyed it

The soundtrack to this movie was great, "restless heart" at the operation scene was my favourite part.

Seeing the boob eating scene made me think of the brain eating scene from Hannibal. Fun podcast as always y'all. Looking forward to all the new stuff this month B~)

Excited for this podcast! I really enjoyed Fresh

rlly liked this one. watched it as soon as it dropped. glad the girls triumphed!

I am curious if the girl that wrote the note is the magazine was the wife. When they look at the photos of the victims, Sami's photo has her face obscured by her hair. So you have no idea what she looks like. And that is the only photo like that. So it seems to be done on purpose. It makes me want to lean with Ann being Sami.

Daisy Edgar Jones was excellent in Normal People, a short BBC series based on the book! She is the niece of my mum's best friend!

Can I just say that the camera zoom at 59:46 is just hilarious. Awesome job editor!

Sebastian is the Patrick Bateman from the books loved what they did with his character in this movie, not upset that she went for his meat balls in the end xDlol

Never thought I’d see the Winter Soldier cut off ass

I loved Fresh ^_^ I'd only seen one trailer when i went in and it just looked like it was a obsessive boyfriend kinda thing so the cannibalism stuff took me by surprise which was an added bonus!

The movie i always wondered why it never had a killcount, even tho it was in the intro Finally having one, with Chelsea ! Can't wait

This is the most precious couple ever.

ik yall do horror movies and thrillers and such but it would be so fun to hear about your opinions about everything everywhere all at once!

These podcasts are underrated

I love this channel so much

I'm in Canada and not only does Disney+ have this movie, they have No Exit, The Omen series, Alien series, Predator series, Jennifer's Body, The Fly, Ready or Not, and many more.

@jimmyb5025

2 жыл бұрын

Same in the UK, because we don't have Hulu.

I’m so happy y’all enjoyed this movie. I really thought it was good, fun and felt, pun kinda intended, fresh.

I’ve been waiting for y’all to talk about this movie! 😁😁

I've had cotton candy grapes, and let me tell you, they're amazing

can comfirm i watched this on disney+, along with tommy and pam, sebastian stan is just doing it for me

Thank you for this

Really loved this movie ended up watching it today since I wanted to check it out before listening to the commentary. I've been wanting to watch it since it came out last month.

Love your content ❤️❤️ Be safe everyone

I never clicked on something so fast in my life. I’m so excited to hear what you both have to say about Sebastian Stan 🥰

@Humanbe1ng

2 жыл бұрын

Wha

Oh my God.. I've been trying to place that kitchen scene from Body Moving for years! Thanks James!

I recently watched Attachment, which is a great movie that smoothly transitions from romcom, to psychological horror, to supernatural horror, and back to romance.

I did watch this movie on Disney+ actually (I'm in Europe) and I also loved that I could watch this movie on there. Ready or Not is also on there which I know you guys love ... and American frigging Horror Story, like whut. Loved all of them btw

2022 is a good year for horror movies

I kind of took the fact that Penny didn't have more removed was that the way that he was selling the meat was that the client would choose who they wanted to eat. Also healing takes a while, so it could be that he wants the victims to not be on any medications which could affect the quality

Love your videos

I like how the title of this episode is Fresh Dead Meat

I love this dead meat podcast they are the best so awesome

Missed opportunity to be sponsored by hello fresh !

Cotton candy grapes are wonderful :) You two make everything better, just wanted to get that out there!

The dance scene lives in my head rent free.

Cotton candy grapes are so delicious!! I’ve had them and it’s a fun treat :)

Cotton candy grapes are green grapes that are just sweet. Tried them in Florida and I liked them

Sebastian Stan: Daddy 🤤🙌🏽

Passengers is a movie marketed as a romcom that's actually a horror movie

Watching this movie while recovering from oral surgery was a trip let me tell ya.