No longer neutral waters: What Baltic Sea strategy for Sweden after NATO enlargement? • FRANCE 24

If you're wondering why Sweden and Finland broke with neutrality and joined NATO, just look at a map. Long before 2022 and Vladimir Putin's play for Ukraine's capital, Stockholm was already boosting its military, reintroducing a base on the strategic island of Gotland in 2018. Across the Baltic Sea lies the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad. We bring you an exclusive FRANCE 24 report from Gotland.
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  • @GiantJake
    @GiantJakeАй бұрын

    I greatly appreciate in depth discussions like this. Thank you France 24 for letting American's like me have real world news not just the next Trump disaster.

  • @scepticalwalker3984

    @scepticalwalker3984

    Ай бұрын

    Agree, as a Swedish American I was astonished when I found out how difficult it is here in the US to follow international events in depth. Unless you know where to look you only get Trump/Biden bashing on the news.

  • @joiedevie3901

    @joiedevie3901

    Ай бұрын

    Or the last one! Yes, thanks,

  • @Cloud-dq1mr

    @Cloud-dq1mr

    Ай бұрын

    @@scepticalwalker3984 As a Swedish American do you know a bit more specifically where you're from? Or know any swedish? Random questions from a curious Swede

  • @glenbolderson9279

    @glenbolderson9279

    Ай бұрын

    And here I thought Biden was moving the USA towards WW3. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡................

  • @scepticalwalker3984

    @scepticalwalker3984

    Ай бұрын

    @hejnickhej I follow Swedish, British, German and French news. The EU is doing fine given the circumstances.

  • @maxruedy951
    @maxruedy951Ай бұрын

    Hey Sweden welcome to NATO from your friends in Canada,glad to have you guys on the team.🇨🇦🤝🇸🇪

  • @Cloud-dq1mr

    @Cloud-dq1mr

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you Canada! Although being on the same team with you sounds strange, all I can think of is ice hockey rivalry 😅

  • @johnadam2885

    @johnadam2885

    Ай бұрын

    Canada and Sweden are among the useless weaklings in NATO. Neither of you individually or collectively can match the Russians. Can they alter the outcome in Ukraine ? It seems to me after being defeated in Ukraine, NATO is chest beating about its prowess, only to ward off Russia giving a beating to a NATO country !

  • @gagamba9198

    @gagamba9198

    Ай бұрын

    When will Canada join the team in actions and not mere words? It's been defence sponger since 1973. In 2023 a trove of leaked Pentagon secrets included Prime Minister Justin Trudeau privately telling NATO that Canada would _never meet_ the military alliance's targets for defence spending, the Washington Post reported. A blunt assessment stated 'widespread' military deficiencies in Canada that are causing friction with security partners and allies, reported the newspaper. Canada has faced criticism domestically and around the world fori ts refusal to meet NATO's spending expectations. Trudeau recently cut the defence budget by $210 million, and it's rumoured additional cuts of $1 billion are on the way. Canada is the only NATO member without a plan or a timeline to reach the alliance’s target of spending two per cent of GDP on defence.

  • @Crashed131963

    @Crashed131963

    Ай бұрын

    Canada does not pay it 2% NATO bill .

  • @Cloud-dq1mr

    @Cloud-dq1mr

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crashed131963 Just a reflection, Canada has no real enemies and geopolitically they're pretty safe where they are. NATO is not an orgaisation that you pay bills to, you spend on your own internal defense budget. So two questions: - Who the f*ck are you to question Canada? - Evem if what you say is true, them just being a member is a huge boon to NATO Dont drink the Trump coolaid, look at the bigger picture

  • @yeshechangchub6914
    @yeshechangchub6914Ай бұрын

    germany.. “You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.” ― Leon Trotsky

  • @user-xq1wz3tp5z

    @user-xq1wz3tp5z

    Ай бұрын

    Comment while handing Lenin a ticket to Moscow?

  • @thestraightroad305
    @thestraightroad305Ай бұрын

    What a relief to know Sweden and Finland have added their strategic intelligence, strength and courage to NATO. As an American, I welcome this.

  • @starscream6657

    @starscream6657

    Ай бұрын

    Well it is nice to see Americans liking nato, i feel like some Americans dont like nato or maybe i am wrong

  • @thestraightroad305

    @thestraightroad305

    Ай бұрын

    @@starscream6657 Those who don’t like NATO don’t understand it…or history. I love Europe and would like to see it remain free, prosperous and strong.

  • @jimmyyates3510

    @jimmyyates3510

    Ай бұрын

    @@thestraightroad305some would just like to see Europe stand on its on feet.

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354Ай бұрын

    11:37: William Alberque: _"Sweden has a myth about itself ..."_ Happenstance nobody in Sweden believe in this myth, and hasn't for a very long time. Sweden was essentially non-aligned, not neutral, and that non-alignment included some pretty well known agreements with USA. The non-alignment was just a necessity to support Finland that was coerced into neutrality by the Soviets.

  • @k0mm4nd3r_k3n

    @k0mm4nd3r_k3n

    Ай бұрын

    Couldn't agree more that William Alberque's comment is unhinged.

  • @scepticalwalker3984

    @scepticalwalker3984

    Ай бұрын

    He is not wrong. Before the 90’s most Swedes believed in that “identity”, while the political and military leadership knew the reality and worked with the US, UK and Finland behind the scenes. Neutrality was an identity, not a reality. I am glad we left the hypocrisy behind.

  • @DarrenJamiesonJamieson

    @DarrenJamiesonJamieson

    Ай бұрын

    They are not going to stop me going to Russia, so don't even try. If my flight from Sweden is denied I'll just biy a car and drive. Silly people. I make Rambo look like a netballl player!

  • @vilandar

    @vilandar

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@DarrenJamiesonJamiesonif you find it difficult we can help you leave.

  • @DarrenJamiesonJamieson

    @DarrenJamiesonJamieson

    Ай бұрын

    @@vilandar No worries. Remember my friend. The Angling Policeman. lol

  • @VonRix
    @VonRixАй бұрын

    I think what Swedes realised that Russians in case of new conflict simply would not respect Swedish neutrality and invade Gotland, because this island is crucial for Russians to isolate the Baltic states. Swedes would have to fight anyway - for Gotland or just give it up - something they are not willing to do.

  • @peterjaniceforan3080
    @peterjaniceforan3080Ай бұрын

    🇫🇮 🇸🇪🫡

  • @karl-niclasburner8451
    @karl-niclasburner8451Ай бұрын

    10 years ago I would not have been in favor of joining, but Russia have changed that. Born in the 70´s and grew up in the 80´sduring the last period of the Cold War. I hade Hope for peace when the CCCP fell apart, but lost it more and more with Putins Russia.

  • @applemos6714

    @applemos6714

    Ай бұрын

    Same here. I wasn’t against NATO, but instead of joining I was rather for a strong national defense and more collaboration with Finland. Now things changed quite drastically. Since Finland wanted to join there was really no choice. It will workout for the best am sure. Most people supports this. I do too!

  • @roundlake96

    @roundlake96

    Ай бұрын

    Still not in favor for Nato but at the same time its not the end of the world that we joined. Just dont think there was any real need to join them other then industrial and economic ones. Sadly media made it look to most as if we needed Nato more then Nato needed us.

  • @donaldliden4545

    @donaldliden4545

    Ай бұрын

    Samma här

  • @GorillaTVe

    @GorillaTVe

    Ай бұрын

    10 år sedan var du smartare.

  • @GorillaTVe

    @GorillaTVe

    Ай бұрын

    Hysteria råder just nu bland folk och våra utokrater med sina aktieportföljer älskar det.

  • @IMGreg..
    @IMGreg..Ай бұрын

    These young people are delightfully optimistic and positive about mandatory service. This is needed in Canada. Sweden may have been nonaligned for years but they would have never faced the Russians alone. There would have been a Western uproar and violent reaction to Russian aggression against Sweden.

  • @peabase

    @peabase

    Ай бұрын

    Militarily non-aligned, and even that was debatable.

  • @Cloud-dq1mr

    @Cloud-dq1mr

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for saying that, much appreciated. Especially from Canada!

  • @donaldliden4545

    @donaldliden4545

    Ай бұрын

    Not so sure probably there would been same talk about afraid to escalate things from many countries

  • @Phooenixification
    @PhooenixificationАй бұрын

    There are 64 000 shelters that can house approximately 7 million people. I have 82 shelters within a 1 km radius where the closest one is 2 minutes walk away.

  • @Andy108953
    @Andy108953Ай бұрын

    Like Gunilla said the 'normal' for sweden is to actually a have a big army and a lot of conscripts, and as a well integrated total-defence plan with the civil-socity. There is actually a law that every apartment with more then 3 floors has to have a saferoom for the public, this is still implemented today when we build new buildnings.

  • @T1hitsTheHighestNote

    @T1hitsTheHighestNote

    Ай бұрын

    This is not true, haven't been for many years.

  • @Andy108953

    @Andy108953

    Ай бұрын

    @@T1hitsTheHighestNote Well we had a big standing army for a longer time then we've been demilitarized as recent times suggest. So i think you need to brush up on your history mate.

  • @rubiconklbrutorowman7577
    @rubiconklbrutorowman7577Ай бұрын

    Well, done France 24 English to lightening out these very important areas to the viewers of the free world!

  • @sparklingwaters8990
    @sparklingwaters8990Ай бұрын

    Swedes are smart!

  • @tayler2396

    @tayler2396

    Ай бұрын

    They're cute too.

  • @Nels921

    @Nels921

    Ай бұрын

    @Malcolm-rt4fh We are smart like you!

  • @rakadus

    @rakadus

    Ай бұрын

    How about the new migrants?

  • @zama7902

    @zama7902

    Ай бұрын

    LoL. The amount of delusion is hilarious.😂

  • @Scorch428

    @Scorch428

    Ай бұрын

    Those Swedish girls could kill me on the battleground anytime they want!!

  • @GdaySport
    @GdaySportАй бұрын

    The curse of having Russia as your neighbour...

  • @matsfrommusic
    @matsfrommusicАй бұрын

    7:26 They managed to film the old cafe Ryska gården (Russian courtyard), now a tapas bar called Eden. It's amazing the old sign is still up.

  • @CarrotDemonExorcist
    @CarrotDemonExorcistАй бұрын

    European news is doing a great job helping relieve the aloofness Americans have about our allies. I wish I could tell you whats going to happen here with our elections. I'll be going all blue on my ticket but there are people here that live on an exclusive diet of OAN, newsmax, Tucker Carlson, & Christian nationalist podcasts.

  • @stahlbrandt
    @stahlbrandtАй бұрын

    Excellent reporting, thanks!

  • @AndyWoohoo666
    @AndyWoohoo666Ай бұрын

    The peace movement in Sweden and the rest of Europe was heavily supported and infiltrated by Russia since the 80's. Just like they back in the 60's started to support the left movements, later they also turned to the Green as well and since the 90's they also supported the ultimate right wing and this all over Europe. This is how Russia works, they support both fractions in society that fight each others because it causes turbulence in in the country and divide people and that is a win for Russia. Sweden has also since both during the Cold War but also after been politically pressured by Russia and even as far as the now more regular threats with nuclear and military actions if Sweden does this or Sweden does that. Almost a yearly event was Russian test runs with nuclear strategic bomb planes doing a mock attack on Sweden and just turning right before entering Swedish airspace but also the incursions with naval ships/ submarines that's been going on since at least the 60's, So Russia has been picking on Sweden for as long as I have lived and tried to dictate Swedish politics and what or what not to do. The neutrality ended in 1992 with a change in the Swedish doctrine when Sweden chose the non alignment, Sweden have basically been at war with Novgorod Republic/ Russia between 1164-1809 so there is not a lot of love for Russia among the majority and for sure not those that grew up during the Cold War era. However what best shows the Swedish none alignment doctrine back in 1992 is that in 1994 Sweden and also Finland joined NATO's PFP program and that changed the military as well, Swedish military training started to implement NATO structure and order systems. Then in 1995 Swedish troops was for the first time deployed under NATO command/ down to group and platoon level in Doboj. Also notable is that Sweden have pretty deep ties with Ukraine that goes back to the 7th century with the Vikings/ Varangians/ Rus ( Rus/ Rus people/ Ruser comes from the part of Sweden where they Vikings traveling down to Kyiv from, a region called Roslagen South of Uppsala ) Then you have Ingegerd Olofsdotter of Sweden, also known as Irene or Anna/ St. Anna that was the Princess of Kyiv 1035-1050. There are still a village in Southern Ukraine Kherson region with a Swedish name /Gammalsvenskby where people still speak Swedish and uphold Swedish traditions, so Sweden have a lot of different ties to Ukraine. Finally. What people in general miss and I do understand they do is that they see Russia as a country like any other Western or European country and that is the biggest mistake. Russian history will tell you everything about Russia, it has never ever in its history been a democratic country. Russia has always been a Serfdom and the mentality of the Russian people comes from their history and it's called social heritage. Russians do not think or act like Western people because their mindset is so rooted in generations of Serfdom and the will to reach success at any cost. Russia has shown time over time that they only language they understand is meeting force with bigger force. I suggest that if anyone don't understand this last part, do study Russian history and if you want to know how the ruling class of Russia see their people, just read Russian military history and it will tell you anything you need to know. Then I also suggest to read about Social heritage to get a picture of what I talk about. Of course if you're Russian any discussion is unnecessary because you will never understand and as we all know, "Russian lips move they're either on OnlyFans or it's lies"

  • @jasminel9265
    @jasminel9265Ай бұрын

    The guy at 7:15 don't want to be a neighbor with American, who never had a war with Sweden in history, yet he's comfortable to be a neighbor with Russia, who had big wars with Sweden in history, and currently waging a massive war in Europe. Very interesting.

  • @PauZakArtist

    @PauZakArtist

    Ай бұрын

    15 countries were invaded by russia in the last 100 years ONLY. there' s a map with countries and years on the web..

  • @JonasBergling

    @JonasBergling

    Ай бұрын

    He doesn't want to be neighbour with American _nuclear arms_, I don't think he has anything against American people.

  • @gingataisen

    @gingataisen

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@JonasBergling Would he prefer russian nuclear weapons instead?

  • @morewi

    @morewi

    Ай бұрын

    It's a common shill tactic. They are called peaceniks

  • @JonasBergling

    @JonasBergling

    Ай бұрын

    @@gingataisen I'm sure he wouldn't, he is - perhaps naively - hoping to have neither. Remember we have stayed out of wars for 200 years, that mindset takes a while to change for some.

  • @thegoat11111
    @thegoat11111Ай бұрын

    There is no greater peace activist than a soldier who has seen war.

  • @DarrenJamiesonJamieson

    @DarrenJamiesonJamieson

    Ай бұрын

    Unicorns are better!

  • @stupidburp

    @stupidburp

    Ай бұрын

    A soldier fighting in war is fighting for peace. That is the goal that sends them home. But if one side is an aggressor on the other, then there may be no place to go home to until after victory.

  • @charleskristiansson1296

    @charleskristiansson1296

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, 200 years of wars saw Swedem embrace neutrality.

  • @Scorch428

    @Scorch428

    Ай бұрын

    only if they were losing if they were winning, they tend to watch to go back on more tours...

  • @fredkrissman6527
    @fredkrissman6527Ай бұрын

    What an interesting&informative vid. Thanx France24!

  • @stevenmempa7415
    @stevenmempa7415Ай бұрын

    Good reporting. Thank you.

  • @grizellda2540
    @grizellda2540Ай бұрын

    I don't think I heard that this was a special shortened form of The Debate. Is the new length now about 25 minutes? Love the show, by the way - it helps so much in understanding world events and politics - thank you!

  • @MannyLoxx2010

    @MannyLoxx2010

    Ай бұрын

    This is a condense version of the 45-Minutes France Debate shown every Friday. It's still 45-minutes still!!

  • @grizellda2540

    @grizellda2540

    Ай бұрын

    @@MannyLoxx2010 Thank you!

  • @larion3296
    @larion3296Ай бұрын

    It is hard to describe Sweden as neutral during ww2 and the Cold war. In ww2 Sweden balanced between German and UK/US. During the Cold war there were secret treaties with US/UK about the nuclear umbrella protection and US bombers being allowed to fly over Sweden. In addition Sweden provided intelligence (or exchanged) to UK/US. And Sweden also had secret military agreements with Finland and planning. For instance Sweden kept a surplus of Draken fighter jets for Finland (that was not allowed to have more than a certain number of fighter jets). With the official NATO membership there is now a chance to really plan an efficient joint defense of the Nordic countries, including the Baltic Sea and the Arctic region. Our countries are quite similar and it must be possible to set up a better defense that relies less on external actors, such as US.

  • @mikael5938

    @mikael5938

    Ай бұрын

    baltic sea cant be defended by 4 small corvettes without aa missles. Baltic states and finland dont have any navy at all. By joining Nato we risk all our navy to defend others who cant help us at all. America will be busy with china and i pivoting away from eastern europe to pacific. Joining nato juat increased risk for swedes to die for baltic states or poland. Coubtries that belonged to 4 different countries last 100 years and for sure will get into new wars. Sweden lost 300 years of peace and the people didnt even vote about the nato membership.

  • @morgansjodin4859

    @morgansjodin4859

    Ай бұрын

    Viking longships.. I think the EU/Europe already knows that. Macron is moving towards it and try to drag our blind arses along!

  • @T1hitsTheHighestNote

    @T1hitsTheHighestNote

    Ай бұрын

    In WWII, Sweden were neutral on the side of Germany...

  • @MrLemonAsus
    @MrLemonAsusАй бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @factsy7042
    @factsy7042Ай бұрын

    A lot of the military footage they show in this video is showing the home guard not regular army. The home guard uses the ak4 (Heckler & Koch G3).

  • @T1hitsTheHighestNote

    @T1hitsTheHighestNote

    Ай бұрын

    The Home Guard and the Army is actually quite well integrated. The Home Guard supports the army with a lot of tasks, like guard and patrol service, with the host land support, and are always included in the big NATO exercises. Next year both the Army and the Home Guard will also rearm themselves with the same service rifle for the first time in our history, the SAKO AR-10/15 clone labled AK24.

  • @mitchyoung93
    @mitchyoung93Ай бұрын

    Both Sweden and Finland have been participating in NATO exercises and even some ops for decades.

  • @Khasidon
    @KhasidonАй бұрын

    Great video report. Very interesting.

  • @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
    @Pierluigi_Di_LorenzoАй бұрын

    Sweden has not been neutral since 1940. In WW2 It supported Finland in the Winter War and allowed Nazi-German troops to pass through its territory. During the Cold War it flew reconnaissance missions for the US and had a secret assistance agreement with the US in case of war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact. Sweden has supported Ukraine with military help since 2022.

  • @leifnordh9109

    @leifnordh9109

    Ай бұрын

    During WW2 Sweden also trained and eauiped ca 1 division of Norwegian soldiers and 1 brigade of Danish soldiers that were planned to be inserted into their home countries When called to liberate them. We gave the allies intelligence and the V2 missile thst crashed in Sweden.

  • @leifnordh9109

    @leifnordh9109

    Ай бұрын

    Sweden declare itself non-belligerent during the Winter war of 1939 When Soviet invaded.

  • @Northman-from-the-North

    @Northman-from-the-North

    Ай бұрын

    Sweden gave up their nukes to the US and handed over plutonium for hundreds of nukes in return the US promised the swedes protection.

  • @znail4675

    @znail4675

    Ай бұрын

    @@leifnordh9109 non-belligerent is not neutral, it allows for military support and is essentially one step below being active participant.

  • @balsyprick6764

    @balsyprick6764

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah that is what neutrality is. Not picking sides, but selling to everyone. Making deals with everyone. Neutrality is not what you seem to think it is; to ignore everyone.

  • @daphuc502
    @daphuc502Ай бұрын

    neutrality is by strength , not by choices. if your small weak country security is in such threats against an overwhelming super powers , there should be compulsory military services, military spending should jump up to 4-5 % or even much much higher . unprepared for wars and wait for foreigners to fight for your war , is not a good strategy.

  • @andersgrassman6583

    @andersgrassman6583

    Ай бұрын

    Well, during the 50/60's Sweden had the 4th largest airforce in the world. And they always flew very agressively, like it was always wartime. NATO pilots weren't alowed to fly that way, because the Swedish way killed many, many times more pilots. Defence spending in the 60/70's topped at 3,7% I think. And every able man served in the military. So it was not like we tried to be "free riders". And we are not going to be free riders within NATO either. We add strength from the start, and we are expanding as fast as is practically possible. Money is not the issue.

  • @donaldliden4545

    @donaldliden4545

    Ай бұрын

    Yes it should be 6% as it was before..now they must buy back everything that was given away or sold for a bargain...shelters must be restored.Army must be back up to same size it was in beginning of the 80th also we have seen now its impossible to have too much airdefence and drones,missiles.Armed vehicles ok but seems to be less important to have many tanks and more important being able to defend electrical power and civilians....damn all Russians their actions costs too damn much for the neighbours the idiots havent even been able to lift its own ppl out of poverty still they prefer start war on countries minding their own business and welcoming Russian citizens as tourists or those who found a partner and a job.Nobody was treating them bad still they manage to sell in a war that has nothing in it to gain for them against ppl who didnt want them any harm..IDIOTs rules Kreml thats crystalclear

  • @mwtrolle
    @mwtrolleАй бұрын

    14:33 ohhhh He left out Denmark. Look at the Danish island of Bornholms strategic position compared to Kaliningrad. Also all the Nordic air forces have signed a treaty where they will work most more like one then just being part of NATO would do.

  • @srenjensen2836

    @srenjensen2836

    Ай бұрын

    I think he replaced Denmark with Iceland. Sutbly offending 5 million Danes XD

  • @user-sn1lu5yi6r
    @user-sn1lu5yi6rАй бұрын

    To our Swedish friends, allies and partners ....Welcome to the Club. Welcome to NATO. We are far, far stronger with you, with Sweden helping to defend the North. Toronto, Ontario, Canada,

  • @k.sullivan6303
    @k.sullivan6303Ай бұрын

    Hello from Canada. I'm about 5:30 into the video, and I see that the Swedish young people are so beautiful, both boys and girls. I hope no harm comes to them. I guess their immediate training will be to learn how to defend the main purpose of that island. The main purpose is likely to have various types of short to long range missiles to strike the enemy at sea anywhere around them, and to strike right into the heart of Russia if need be. These tanks and infantry people will need to protect the island from invasion, thus protecting the missiles, and the radar and tracking systems as well. This is just my best guess as I am not a military person.

  • @lassel1344
    @lassel1344Ай бұрын

    For those who do not have a deeper knowledge of the conflict in Ukraine, it is recommended to watch Colonel Daniel Davis' YT channel when he interviews Jacques Baud who worked on a NATO mission in Ukraine for several years. There are at least 2 different interviews. Jacques has worked in many different countries as he has extensive knowledge in several areas. Jacques has also worked for a few years on UN assignments. Jacques goes back to the 1990s to today to explain events that affected the conflict.

  • @donaldliden4545
    @donaldliden4545Ай бұрын

    Good unteresting talks 👍🇸🇪

  • @MusicShortsGlobal
    @MusicShortsGlobalАй бұрын

    William Alberque made some good points on the Baltic Sea strategy plan, but he spoke way too fast and I can barely keep up with what he was saying. Strong NATO🤝

  • @silverhooligan1256

    @silverhooligan1256

    Ай бұрын

    I’m a native English speaker and I found the sound quality and speed of his voice hard to understand and irritating.

  • @andyreznick
    @andyreznickАй бұрын

    Thanks, FR 24.

  • @user-vj4sn1hk3n
    @user-vj4sn1hk3nАй бұрын

    To Do or Not To Do, only each nation know best or not?

  • @andersgrassman6583

    @andersgrassman6583

    Ай бұрын

    In the case of Finland and Sweden, we take each others position very, very seriously. It used to be the same kingdom for 700 years. The words "Sweden" and "Finland" only referred to the eastern and western parts of the realm.

  • @seanbumstead1250
    @seanbumstead1250Ай бұрын

    Canada 🇨🇦 welcomes our new NATO members Finland and Sweden

  • @morgansjodin4859

    @morgansjodin4859

    Ай бұрын

    Same as Hockey...?! 🤔😝

  • @PiddePedd
    @PiddePeddАй бұрын

    Good piece. On a side note, these conscripts are on the upper end of the bell curve- they have been selected to become ”company echelon command cadets”, which means they will become deputy platoon leaders and tank commanders. They performed well on all tests, especially the cognitice and psychological ones.

  • @AmitRay47
    @AmitRay47Ай бұрын

    very balanced discussion. Thanks.

  • @charleskristiansson1296

    @charleskristiansson1296

    Ай бұрын

    ? In what way?

  • @EdMcF1
    @EdMcF1Ай бұрын

    Luxembourg and Switzerland, both neutral in 1940, one was strong, the other was not.

  • @andreabotteghelz
    @andreabotteghelzАй бұрын

    And what about Bornholm?

  • @IIIIIIIIIIIllllllIIIIIIIIIII
    @IIIIIIIIIIIllllllIIIIIIIIIIIАй бұрын

    Putin wanting to "get the band back together" .... ok :D

  • @UpRisingDown
    @UpRisingDownАй бұрын

    I dont wanna go to war. I like my couch and my beer.

  • @suicidalbanananana

    @suicidalbanananana

    Ай бұрын

    Don't worry, we all have paid armies (ie: people that WANT to do the job) with up to date material & decades worth of shared trainings, even if sh*t somehow hits the fan hard (and that's extremely unlikely) we're not gonna get pulled away from our couch and beer any time soon.

  • @icu17siberia

    @icu17siberia

    Ай бұрын

    no one does. do you like Baltika?

  • @peabase

    @peabase

    Ай бұрын

    @@suicidalbanananana Speak for your lazy self. The bulk of our armed forces consists of unpaid reservists. In fact, almost our entire adult male population is or has been one.

  • @UpRisingDown

    @UpRisingDown

    Ай бұрын

    @@suicidalbanananana true words 👍

  • @UpRisingDown

    @UpRisingDown

    Ай бұрын

    @@icu17siberia baltik states?

  • @pajos04
    @pajos04Ай бұрын

    Is not Bornholm and Åland strategic?

  • @Scorch428
    @Scorch428Ай бұрын

    But I thought Putin invaded Ukraine because he didnt want NATO to border Russia....and now it does in Finland!

  • @JC-rr1wu
    @JC-rr1wuАй бұрын

    William Alberque has an impeccable taste in music, if I'm allowed to digress a bit

  • @Do-not-be-sheep
    @Do-not-be-sheepАй бұрын

    A high priority for the eu must be the coordination of armament manufacturing across the eu. The goal is to creating a manufacturing strategy based on the lessons learned from Ukraine to be able to manufacture arms at the consumption rate documented in Ukraine. Manufacturing must be fully redundant in two different countries with geographic diversity. They should have an inventory of at least 6 months. With this model they can meet their own needs while supporting countries like Ukraine.

  • @jrtstrategicapital560
    @jrtstrategicapital560Ай бұрын

    This young generation at least has a little warning to prepare instead of waiting till an invasion occurs...so proud of the youths!

  • @RennieNightcart
    @RennieNightcartАй бұрын

    The former Koenigsburg is a post WW II exclave of the former Soviet Union, not an enclave.

  • @user-xq1wz3tp5z

    @user-xq1wz3tp5z

    Ай бұрын

    thanks for the clarification!

  • @Pubbehey1
    @Pubbehey1Ай бұрын

    Well, we have a huge ARMY if needed. Every man and woman that hunts in the woods have lots of weapons, so that would be a guerilla warfare that would not end well for any agressor, Same is probably the same in finland. I think i read somwhere that we have around 2 million hunting rifles just laying around, and we have orders that we shall never surrender no matter what happens or what we are told by propaganda. Its like what people say, when the forests starts speaking Swedish or finish or any nordic language you should probably be worried, we have a lot of forests up here.

  • @jf7243
    @jf7243Ай бұрын

    Welcome to reality Swedish peacenicks! My sister too was a long-term pacifist but a belligerent Russia changed that. I hope Europe wakes up and quickly rebuilds their military.

  • @johanberglund6240
    @johanberglund6240Ай бұрын

    I am happy to see there are lots of youngsters willing to fight, and almost only old who does not understand that if attacked by Putin, the only way out is to fight.

  • @kennethferland5579
    @kennethferland557922 күн бұрын

    The integrated Nordic airforce should be followed with an integrated Baltic Navy, Denmark, Germany, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Sweeden and Finland together make a substantial naval force. The simplified command and communication with the integrated airforce will allow optimal defence and logistical support to the frontline states and to contain Kaliningrad.

  • @jan-erikjanson1995
    @jan-erikjanson1995Ай бұрын

    i think 500 years since Treaty of Kalmar Unifying all three Scandinavian nations,

  • @Melrose51653
    @Melrose51653Ай бұрын

    Russia has a poor navy and no experience using it.

  • @user-xq1wz3tp5z

    @user-xq1wz3tp5z

    Ай бұрын

    But a formidable submarine missile fleet, yes?

  • @spokraket4236
    @spokraket42362 күн бұрын

    1955 Sweden had the third largest air force in the world after the USA and china. Yeah you read that right. 2024 Sweden has the second largest navy in nato in number of ships after the USA. Yeah you read that right.

  • @sebastianingelsson582
    @sebastianingelsson58227 күн бұрын

    The girl, I wake up at 5? Yea I do that too every day? You special much?

  • @letsplaywar
    @letsplaywarАй бұрын

    i want a Luxury Bunker for myself.

  • @johnhopkins6260
    @johnhopkins626026 күн бұрын

    Noteworthy is how the Russian Runt forgot to declare Gotland as "always Russia"

  • @Bernard-fo2qo
    @Bernard-fo2qo26 күн бұрын

    Why does Putin look different in EVERY picture???

  • @gb1178
    @gb1178Ай бұрын

    I love listening to the Swedes and Fins. They have a better understanding of Russia than most. I'm sooooo glad they are with us. Great addition to NATO.

  • @user-lv5wt3kd5u
    @user-lv5wt3kd5uАй бұрын

    Not first time Sweden defends Gotland :)

  • @roundlake96
    @roundlake96Ай бұрын

    I hope or strategy for the Baltic will be the same even if we join Nato. That is to be the strongest navy in the area if we include our friends in Denmark and Finland. As before the war that makes us secured form any naval threats. Only real change I hope to see is that Danmark lets Sweden and Finland Take over the Baltic presence so they can focus fully on having a larger presence in the Norwegian Sea, North sea and arctic regions together with Norway and Canada. That way we can use our resources better than we did before joining Nato

  • @EmpereurNapoleonex
    @EmpereurNapoleonexАй бұрын

    it's understandable statement. in a perfect world, no one should have to pick between NATO and Russia, but there are no sides in a nuclear war. Still would prefer peace

  • @walterg6953
    @walterg6953Ай бұрын

    I'm glad that Sweden protect gotland I pass on ferry from Poland to Sweden nice trip Smooth Sweden in NATO they should stay in Gotland 10 years straight with army without problem 300km from Kaliningrad to gotland Russia got crazy

  • @ArnoldVeeman
    @ArnoldVeemanАй бұрын

    Knut Stahle really has no clue of what is at stake here 😢 He may think he does though and it’s this nativity that makes people like him kinda adorable, but they seriously have to wake up now!

  • @danieltimbers400
    @danieltimbers400Ай бұрын

    all of you in this video know s that Russian would never attack Sweden or Finland

  • @greggcarrier5831
    @greggcarrier5831Ай бұрын

    Good work , thank you . Understanding what the current Russian government is and Russians mindset of why they think and act as they do is important . But most important is Ukrainian victory in this war .

  • @NurBull
    @NurBullАй бұрын

    Oh my God, they are just children ...

  • @roboldx9171
    @roboldx9171Ай бұрын

    To underestimate the Swedes is like underestimating the Vikings. Do it at your peril.

  • @lappo2534

    @lappo2534

    Ай бұрын

    Ha ha ha how's that multiculturalism going in Sven's Sweden?

  • @rakadus

    @rakadus

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@lappo2534Exactly the thought that crossed my mind.

  • @zama7902

    @zama7902

    Ай бұрын

    Swedes are incredibly delusional. The whole world knows how cucked you are.😂

  • @mnufeld8448

    @mnufeld8448

    Ай бұрын

    ​​​​​@@lappo2534Sweden with stealth frigates & AIP subs, and their effective Gripen fighters, which they can operate from stretches of highway

  • @mitchyoung93

    @mitchyoung93

    Ай бұрын

    @@mnufeld8448 Yeah that's great, but when ethnic Swedes are a minority in many neighborhoods and even close to that in the whole city of Malmo I believe, than all that stuff is kinda useless, don't you think?

  • @rakadus
    @rakadusАй бұрын

    The number of migrants willing to sign up for the Sweedish defence forces will be an interesting statistics that needs to be monitored over the coming decades.

  • @dennislindqvist1265

    @dennislindqvist1265

    Ай бұрын

    I read some survey that showed that immigrants are more willing to defend the country than ethnic Swedes. However, the difference was not great. But it still surprised me.

  • @mikee4596

    @mikee4596

    Ай бұрын

    @@dennislindqvist1265 i think a lot of immigrants and first generation citizens feel a debt of gratitude to their new country for the oppurtunities granted and therefore feel the need to give back. There is a high level of immigrant participation in the US military as well

  • @Fujihoffmann
    @FujihoffmannАй бұрын

    I want to congratulate France 24 for finding the only photo of Prime Minister Kristersson where he doesn't look like a 14year old intern at his first summer job.

  • @andersmalmgren6528

    @andersmalmgren6528

    Ай бұрын

    And he as surpassed the Magdalena clown in recent polls which is great.

  • @karlvonbahnhof6594
    @karlvonbahnhof6594Ай бұрын

    Kaliningrad is Czech... It's called Královec...It was German, Polish, Russian..now it's our turn, 99% of people voted for annexation...😅

  • @haroldplante8287
    @haroldplante828726 күн бұрын

    Democracy is worth protecting. As a Vietnam Era vet, I welcome your embrace of Collective security that NATO strives for. 🇺🇸🇺🇦🙏

  • @raystargazer7468
    @raystargazer7468Ай бұрын

    bellorus should be red on the map

  • @firemarble
    @firemarbleАй бұрын

    Help Denmark stop dangerous unlawful russian oil transports through the straits NOW!

  • @crankyunicorn4423
    @crankyunicorn4423Ай бұрын

    pacifist are to blame also, because tyrants only respect strength

  • @keithdunwoody1302
    @keithdunwoody1302Ай бұрын

    That guy who didn't want American weapons near him should be glad they're there. Your sons will have the freedom not to join NATO as soldiers because of a strong defense.

  • @museumoflosttime9718
    @museumoflosttime9718Ай бұрын

    Thank you for the show. Super dangerous and incredibly naive peace protesters, a gift to Putin's brutal regime and a notable danger to the freedoms of the democratic world. The same sort of campaigners that opposed rearmament during the 1930’s and who made it so much harder for countries to resist the invasions and takeovers of 1940.

  • @scottsammons7747
    @scottsammons7747Ай бұрын

    OK

  • @Jhossack
    @Jhossack27 күн бұрын

    Mission creep. It’s only Putin pals that say that. It’s about time to name and shame.

  • @travisbitters7964
    @travisbitters7964Ай бұрын

    Good for you Sweden!

  • @denisssenyondwa7426
    @denisssenyondwa7426Ай бұрын

    The reason they want militirisation is because they have never seen a war. But they are about to see it. People need to think about peace and love of their neighbour.

  • @legandery
    @leganderyАй бұрын

    We have been thinking it 60 years. Sence 1945

  • @myleskgallagher
    @myleskgallagherАй бұрын

    Clovis Casall didnt grow up with bomb shelters in the cold war? How old is he?

  • @davidladjani108

    @davidladjani108

    Ай бұрын

    If he's French, he probably didn't, no matter his age

  • @andersmalmgren6528

    @andersmalmgren6528

    Ай бұрын

    Im born 1980, Swedish, it wasnt that big of a thing for my generation we knew about them but we didnt have drills etc like the older generations.

  • @letMeSayThatInIrish
    @letMeSayThatInIrishАй бұрын

    I'd say it's time to renegotiate Russian passage through the Danish straits.

  • @lahy1060
    @lahy1060Ай бұрын

    Here is my idea of how to end the Russia-Ukraine War in 1-2 years. First, Ukraine ought to mobilize one additional million soldiers, 500 thousand of which are dedicated to infantry soldiers for fighting in trenches, the rest is used for rotation of the frontline combat soldiers, and when the Ukrainian armed forces can retake all of the territory back including Crimea, then NATO can officially declare accepting Ukraine's expedited application for joining NATO Alliance. The Ratification should start right away shortly after so that NATO can move its troops into Ukraine to guard all of Ukraine's borders.

  • @Sziasztok742

    @Sziasztok742

    Ай бұрын

    This scenario would only happen in Hollywood. you're like zelensky, you're the same clown

  • @kirilld6206

    @kirilld6206

    Ай бұрын

    Call Zelenski. He desperately needs your military expertise.

  • @mohamedjibriil7679

    @mohamedjibriil7679

    Ай бұрын

    Wishful thinking. Ukraine don't have enough soldiers to mobilize thy were finished during the counteroffensive.

  • @drscopeify

    @drscopeify

    Ай бұрын

    @@Sziasztok742 More like Putin is the clown, acting like his military can do anything when they cannot even take air superiority over a country with no air force LOL and his Navy looks out of the ship windows and see fishes going by. What a clown Putin is.

  • @drscopeify

    @drscopeify

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@kirilld6206 Zelenski knows what he is doing since he is winning the war for 2 years now.

  • @AXXeYY
    @AXXeYYАй бұрын

    8000 conscripts in 2024

  • @peabase

    @peabase

    Ай бұрын

    You need to up your game.

  • @AXXeYY

    @AXXeYY

    Ай бұрын

    @@peabase yeah 26/4 we get the defense committee report on the future of swedish armed forces we see what they say!

  • @peabase

    @peabase

    Ай бұрын

    @@AXXeYY While at it, have your committee design a horse, so that you can equip a camel corps. Sorry, couldn't resist.

  • @AXXeYY

    @AXXeYY

    Ай бұрын

    @@peabase we have horses its called CV90 its have 600 horses 😉

  • @peabase

    @peabase

    Ай бұрын

    @@AXXeYY It's what cavalry units or dragoons would use nowadays, sure.

  • @vijaymujumdar5617
    @vijaymujumdar5617Ай бұрын

    Joining NATO definitely makes Sweden safe from external (Russian) threat, but it has to expeditiously deal with internal jihadi threat. This has been a self inflicted wound. Welcoming illegal immigration from Islamic countries was unwise in the extreme. It has put gentle Swedes in harms way. Urgent course correction is needed.

  • @Mosern1977

    @Mosern1977

    Ай бұрын

    Well, lack of threats makes for a very soft, peaceful and vulnerable society. Swedes have been needing to urgently course-correct for 2 decades already. But they are now finally turning the boat around. Its a self-inflicted wound for sure, but it will make their culture less naive - so it is not only bad.

  • @shar3066

    @shar3066

    Ай бұрын

    we had very big trust in our society and to people prior. Now we don't trust anyone. The way people demonize us has been a wake up call. There is some very horrible people in the world even among our so called allies.

  • @victorcapel2755

    @victorcapel2755

    Ай бұрын

    I don't think you know what "illegal immigration" means....

  • @Mosern1977

    @Mosern1977

    Ай бұрын

    @@victorcapel2755 - well, who says its "illegal", when its "everyone welcome" as long as you manage to reach the border.

  • @victorcapel2755

    @victorcapel2755

    Ай бұрын

    @@Mosern1977 If it's not forbidden by law, it's by definition not "illegal". You seem to struggle with the concept of laws. It's really not that complicated.

  • @kalmansovari6878
    @kalmansovari6878Ай бұрын

    Mordor makes people come together

  • @5ty717
    @5ty717Ай бұрын

    Bill Alberquercie is a turkey: Bow tie guy is totally useless

  • @HannuKaleviElo
    @HannuKaleviEloАй бұрын

    The Strategy is that no russian ships allowed on Baltic sea!!!

  • @shoelrana9887
    @shoelrana9887Ай бұрын

    🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

  • @nyxjrstone7470
    @nyxjrstone7470Ай бұрын

    Dont make another war...you know it.

  • @pinkfloyd870

    @pinkfloyd870

    Ай бұрын

    See ruZZia

  • @gerhardrausing777
    @gerhardrausing777Ай бұрын

    Interesting video. Speaking of red lines. So if an F-16 flies from Poland to a Russian target in Russian-controlled territory in Ukraine, it is war against NATO. But if it lands at a Ukrainian air base on the way there....some officer might paint a Ukrainian flag on the plane. Gives a short speech. Dear F--16. You now belong to the Air Force of Ukraine. And then it flies on and bombs the same target, then everything would be A-ok?

  • @anonimato1987
    @anonimato1987Ай бұрын

    Europe became a joke and now it is what it is

  • @stephen2824
    @stephen282428 күн бұрын

    God bless Sweden and Finland. Welcome to NATO.

  • @hummingbirdman
    @hummingbirdmanАй бұрын

    We need more blonde models in the military!

  • @andersmalmgren6528

    @andersmalmgren6528

    Ай бұрын

    There is a Swedish documentary called Jägarsoldat, its about conscripts doing Ranger training. There is a blond girl, Josefin, very small but with a great attitude. Worth a watch.

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