Niemann's Combo So Good, Only A 2946 Could Find It
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Hans Niemann's Sacrifices Were So Good In This Game, Only A 2946 Could Find It. This is Hans Niemann vs Shreyas Royal in round 4 of the London Chess Classic 2023.
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This is turning to be my new favorite chess channel, and I follow a lot of them. What I like: the pace, the pronunciation, the balance between main storyline and variations (not too many, not too few), the constant uploading of contents. Good job sir.
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Thanks very much, glad to hear it's about right, always working on it of course and trying to improve!
@aniruddhamersey4139
6 ай бұрын
@@epicchess2021it's sad that the top comment on your video is about definitively saying that Hans cheated here
@boffo63
6 ай бұрын
Yup, this is my 2nd favorite now. I'm taken with Anna's enthusiasm so I like hers a bit more. Good job
@mrf0901
6 ай бұрын
Totally agree, fabulous pace, just enough analysis, love the channel, keep up the great work!
@donsimons9810
6 ай бұрын
Remote chess academy if you are trying to learn. This is good analysis all the same
That's Bobby Fischer's "sac, sac, mate" attack.
@markhathaway9456
6 ай бұрын
Nf5 sac, Rg8 sac, Rg7 sac amazing stuff
Underrated chess channel. You have entertaining and not overly animated commentary, yet very good descriptions. Big fan and hope you get to 100k subs soon buddy! P.S. I worked with Hans in the past and can attest to the fact that he's an amazing player.
@MotuBiral
6 ай бұрын
Levy in shambles because of this comment
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Thanks very much appreciate it! Oh cool would love to hear more about the story one day but maybe in a new comment as it’s really hard for me to pick up replies on here I only ever see fresh comments I’m afraid, too hard sifting through
@VladimrDImpaler
6 ай бұрын
@@epicchess2021 I worked with him when he was still about 16-17. He was very sharp and a fast talker, and he was already 2400 at the time. We taught chess together, and he wanted me to help him set up a sports betting account for chess tournaments (he was not eligible to do it himself at the time due to his age). I also got him into trading stocks for a bit. He calculates a lot of moves quite quickly and clearly, but it doesn’t seem like his style is complicated. He just sees the right sequences more quickly than most of us.
Ding gave an interview to chessbase India, he gave some inside and thought process during his championship matches against Ian. Worth a read
@LondonofGont
6 ай бұрын
Agreed. Really enjoyed the interview. Nice to hear from Ding, even if it's characteristically restrained.
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
oh cool I missed that, will check out thanks
Holy shit what a game! Go Hans
Niemann's the man.. no doubt about it..
I am a 72 years old lover of Hans, he plays very interesting Chess, adventurous, with risks, so he loses sometimes, but not now, Bc3 and then back to d2, what is that? Thats Hans. Thank you Epic, for providing this game!
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Yeah he has a really exciting style fully agree. No worries thanks a lot for watching and commenting
Sacrifice after sacrifice resulting in a win reminds me of no other than Tal.
Hans and Epic Chess is an epic combo.
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
What's distinctive and enjoyable about EC is that he calls it like a sport, play-by-play + analysis. (Subscribed)
King H1 Rook G1 appears to be Han's signature attacking combination.
Niemann's sacrifices, as well as the rook to C2 move, were all played in very short time. Given that there is a 15 min delay on the broadcast and no spectators at the London classic (correct me if I am wrong about this), it seems to me as though Hans found those moves on his own.
@trentvlak
6 ай бұрын
It's indisputable. Nobody can endure that many butt bead vibrations without coming in their pants. Rock solid evidence that Hans Moke is for real.
Hans slapped the kid around with a 3 piece sac.
Love him or hate him the guy is a force to be reckoned with. Maybe the paranoia from others gives him an extra edge, fair or not, but he's killing it.
@ALGRiM247
6 ай бұрын
he’s killing with his buttplug?
@12ollin47s
6 ай бұрын
Of course a cheat is a force to be reckoned with lmao
@steelsteez6118
6 ай бұрын
@@12ollin47sso is a sour puss and hater with zero proof 😂. Go make out with Kramnik bro, you two deserve each other 🤣
@itskmillz
6 ай бұрын
@@12ollin47s He is a cheat. But so far no one has proven he has cheated at all within the last few years. At this point all the complaining about him winning over the board just appears to be sour grapes. If he is caught then ban him for life, but where is the evidence? He's 20 now, he was a minor when he did it. Kids are more likely to cheat than adults.
@bobbybagseed
6 ай бұрын
Kinda easy when you get all the moves from a computer
Roya got MOKED. Hans is the hero I needed.
Hey epic chess, thank you for the awesome videos commentaries. I was wondering if you could add the pgns or notation for each game... I would love to analyze them more. Thank you. P.s if possible
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot and I'll try and remember to do this each time!
@pawnoir
6 ай бұрын
@boiknoik Hi, pgn are to be found on li/ chess, che/ sscom or ches/ sgame (put names together and delete /)
"Local English lad.. Shreyas"
Niemann getting better and better
@zizhdizzabagus456
6 ай бұрын
He has a long way to go until he reaches his real every move stockfish power!
You hope I enjoyed it? Your narration & analysis is superb! THANK YOU!
Fantastic game by both players! Hard to believe that Black is only 14 years old. The computer generation of chessplayers is tough.
@innosanto
6 ай бұрын
You dont need many years to be good at chess. If you start playjng very younf your brain adapts faster to it and computers make that very possible without limit , you can have the best coach in world 24/7
I'm seeing all the pieces getting thrown into the attack. Many sacs. There's a little Morphy with the coordination of pieces, a little Magnus with the devilish knight combo. Even a little AlphaZero with that enginesque rook move that only made sense much later.
@zizhdizzabagus456
6 ай бұрын
Just a little bit of stockfish and alfa zero. Tiny bit 😂
Those beads are getting better and better by the day.
The beads really work.
Amazing Game! Thx for this, very entertaining
Love your channel mate, such great commentary and just the right level of banter :) Oh, and Hans is my favourite player too :)
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot and yeah he’s certainly interesting I’ll give him that haha
Clearly Niemann saw a cool deep move with the castle in a computer game, decided to save it for one of his own games. Not apparent immediately, yet the castle move clears the way for attack lines on the king side. Very cool.
Awesome videos recently covering some exciting games! (and drama lol)
very interesting game!
this guy plays like a MACHINE
@n1te
6 ай бұрын
and he vibrates like one =)
@rahul445
6 ай бұрын
the beads are vibrating extra
@mcronrn
6 ай бұрын
C’mon guys - there’s a broadcast delay. Ain’t no one feeding him the moves…
@gitgudchannel
6 ай бұрын
gay
@abj136
6 ай бұрын
Watch the evaluation bar. Hans made plenty of mistakes, but his 2400 opponent blundered more than once to give him the game.
Hes getting better. The next few years will be fun.
FYI, 15. Rc2 is not new. It was played by Yu Yangyi in July against Lê Tuấn Minh but Lê played 15...Rfe8. It would be interesting to know whether Hans got the idea from there, from computer prep or OTB.
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
oh yeah absolutely, thanks for pointing out, I should have mentioned - but just so weird looking to me when I first see it!
@mcronrn
6 ай бұрын
Having watched Hans’ interviews, if he was asked that, he would deliberately give some word salad answer that gave the impression he was talking about some other game, just to mess w everyone. 🤣🤣🙏🙏 especially if asked by a cute girl interviewer (his responses get really wild then)
@markhathaway9456
6 ай бұрын
He played 15 Qc2 in the same position in a US chps game, so he was familiar with it. The Rc2 though may have come from anywhere.
When he beats Fabiano make sure you capture that and do your commentary and post it on KZread.
That was brilliant indeed!
Go Hans!
I'm learning but it looks to me that even though the comp thought things were just in favour of Roy at 4:00, that was the tipping point for the Hans win.
I would like you take 3mn to cover the first 3 game, yes draw but +97 accuracy by opponent, precise play! I like how you cover hans game, if he became world champ and clear hes name, you would be remembered one of the few who cover without suspicion!
He must've been *buzzing* after this one!
What a game over game!
He is coming after the goat calsen
Great Game by Hans sacrificing a piece will always get you a Brilliancy especially when it helps the offense get going Hans seems to be winning a lot recently I think people should give him his props and stop trying to diss him with cornball cheating accusations Thanks for the Game James enjoy your day
The beads speak for themselves.
I wonder if these lines make sense: towards the end, after .. Kg7 to Kh7, (Ng5+-Kh8, bf8-kg8, Qh7 mate) (or) after .. Kh7, Ng5+-Kg8, bf8- followed by QxF8, Qh7 mate or Kxf8, Qh8 mate.
Magnus : I can't find it, I'm not 2946
Chess is weird and interesting at the moment. Ding is the World champion he hardly plays any games and it would be questionable if he could beat the five best players in the World. Magnus is just having a ball taking the mickey out of everyone by playing crazy chess but getting everyone out of prep and beating them, which is AWESOME. Kramnik is channeling Fischer before he moved to Iceland (pack some warm clothes Vlad) and Hans thinks he is Fischer and has the game to be EXCEPT Fischer didn't mix the brilliance with some of the crazy bad moves that Hans can make, stay disciplined things could be great and look behind you there are a swarm of Indian GM's coming to dominate the World. Finally, Epic chess is on the rise a genuine super chess channel, very exciting times.
I wish I played like Hans jejejeje, maybe one day jajaja
That was a cool game
He will never be regarded as such.
To even be measured by the yardstick of Fischer is an achievement that few others will ever shake a yardstick at
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Yeah altho I was sending niemanns own comments up a bit through this thumbnail! He’s nowhere near fischers league, maybe one day could be who knows but not yet and i doubt ever personally
Great job Hans need one more win to get back to 2700!
Best chess channel thanks🎉
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
The double rook sacrifice is the kind of dramatics we learn from puzzles so I wouldn't completely rule that out as natural but I wouldn't rule out cheating either.
Niemann smashes 👊
At 4:13 you show white pawn to B4 then black pawn on A4 captures?
@diggitus
6 ай бұрын
Google "en passant" :)
at 9:00 wouldnt bishop to h6 be a better move? that was my guess to what the next move woulda been
Great video. Hans has some interesting games. Would love to see him get a rematch with Carlson but he will have to earn it. He does have the advantage of being younger but these days he’s not all that young with all the prodigies coming along so you have to be really good to get a chance to play against the best of the best.
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
Ding chilling. Hard.
Deep
Instead of N on h4 jumping to Nf3. Hans could have played Rxg8 removing the defender of h6. If black recaptures with his rook then Qxh6#
That’s a move you don’t make without preparation…Preparation H.
The next Stock Fischer.
Yeah sure go Hanz jejejeje
Dope video .
Game over game!😂
Hans no cheat this game for sure
You know the saying “once a cheat, always a cheat”
was hans always this strong when he was younger? Or is he making 3000 rated moves recently?
New bobby fischer
How? Hans has some pretty insane intuition if he can drop a piece and confidently hold 20+ moves to the win.
@aniruddhamersey4139
6 ай бұрын
Hans is historically a more intuitive player than a calculation one. As said by someone who coached him when he was younger
Next fisher i joke to you
His real test in the competition is Gukesh..
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Yeah tho horrible loss Gukesh just suffered! Mickey Adams looking dangerous too , dark horse
der hans der kanns
Fischer would be proud.
The next Fish.
Well I think mostly prep because I think the only others who would understand the first part of the game are top 5
I finally solved it before plying video! Woohoo! I suck at chess but at least I refused to give up trying. Missed the 2nd rook sac *!#&%!! lol I guess I did give up 1/2 way through. Was able to see the rest. TY!! GREAT CHANNEL! Enjoy this in Gotham. How cool this is right in your backyard!
Ding Liren will play in the tata steel chess tournament
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Awesome news!
Splendid (and where is Ding)
that rook move sus ? would you prep down that line
Hans is nie man
Let's stay on the ground, shall we? If beating a 2400 IM means that you're the next Bobby Fischer, I'm Bobby Fischer.
Whats he got in his bottom?
Organizers have to work at paranoia level in the next otb tournaments to either clear Niemann's name or stop him from taking the chess world for a fool.
@josephpchajek2685
6 ай бұрын
Or people can just get a grip and realize he's not cheating. Even this game just shown here, several times he made the wrong move.
@matthewdown5378
6 ай бұрын
@@josephpchajek2685 If you do cheat, you don't play engine moves every time or it becomes clear that you are cheating. A few engine moves at crucial points are all that is required.
@foraminutethere23
6 ай бұрын
@@josephpchajek2685 uh huh. His performance just happens to skyrocket at the tournaments without anti cheat
@Lemon-qs3uz
6 ай бұрын
@@foraminutethere23There were anti cheat measures at the tournament of peace. But go off with your 500 elo
@123duelist
6 ай бұрын
@Lemon-qs3uz How do you know there were anti-cheat measures, though and if there were how good are they?
Looks like shiny-am75 has HDS, Hans derangement syndrome ….😂
Hans showed the kid who has the bigger sac
Damn, I just can't believe that changing the color of your beads really improves your games. 🤷🏻♂️
4:12 seems a bit sus
Hans is playing incredible chess and should be appreciated for his mastery! The Rook lift and the double sacrifice was just Classic! EC love you as always for bringing in Hans’s and other awesome games 👍. “Chess speaks for itself 👌”
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
Hans Niemann was buzzing about his performance.
Hans is an animal in the making.
Oh the humanity. If Magnus or Naka had a game like this one everyone'd be in awe of their brilliance. But when an underdog does it they yell 'cheater'. The masses are stubbornly resistant to change, until facts drag them kicking and screaming to the new reality.
@n1te
6 ай бұрын
replace 'underdog' with 'proven cheater online that can't explain his own lines OTB' and it'll suddenly make sense to you
@smaakjeks
6 ай бұрын
@@n1te It's certainly an odd argument to make from george here. As if Niemann is the first new chess player in a hundred years and is causing a stir among the sacred priests of chess or something. There are rising stars every couple of years or so, and yet accusations of cheating are not happening left and right.
@mcronrn
6 ай бұрын
@@n1te you fell for that ‘can’t explain his lines’ gag? Hans knew that would get you guys riled up. He’s a CHESS grandmaster, son - you’re still playing checkers. 🤷🏻♂️
@Sneaky-Sneaky
6 ай бұрын
Yes you are correct…the have HDS! Hans derangement syndrome! It’s very funny to say the least!😂😂
@lobsterboy8148
6 ай бұрын
Except you’re comparing two of the greatest players of all time to a guy that’s been caught cheating more than 100 times. Hans is a joke and a disgrace to a game that used to have integrity
Fischer could win without cheating!
Fischer Never cheated
Indeed, Hans Niemann reminds me of Bobby Fischer. Great chess player - horrible temper.
Lol wait a minute. If we could only turn Kramniks accusing eye towards Niemann instead of Hikaru, wpuldnt world be a better place?
@scottekoontz
6 ай бұрын
If you use Elo, and trust win% for blitz, and know the win streaks and the player's Elo you can see why Hikaru streaks were "interesting." Didn't Hikaru call Nieman's games 'sus' a year ago and had "proof" that turned out to be bogus anyway? Hikaru milked that BS for a year. Now that we know a 45.5/46 streak and a 55/55 are statistically incredibly unlikely even after 1,000s of games against such players, I see nothing wrong with making the claim of "interesting". Hikaru didn't cheat in my opinion, but oh man to have the platform Hikaru has and pound the stats of these streaks daily...
Nice commentary! As always. Please don’t rush your commentary too much , gets too hard to follow as other KZreadrs do. 👍
2946? My Lichess puzzle rating is higher than that, and I have a real job and 4 kids! 🤣
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
Haha jheez I’m surprised you find time for anything chess related! I have 2, hard work!! 😁
Can someone please explain if he's cheating, then how?
@Garotoso
6 ай бұрын
no one can. it's only hate mentality, it's very sad actually.
With all due respect I was not all that impressed with White's attack, and my rating was only 2520 many many years ago. I found/guessed Niemann's key moves in seconds. And.....I am relaxing in bed at 3:50am. Are you sure that he deserves so much praise?
@epicchess2021
6 ай бұрын
I think giving up a piece without an immediate win in sight is pretty cool but 💯 I am over praising based on his recent comments about himself, Ofc he’s not that high rated and I don’t believe he next Fischer ! You’re up late as well!
Local englishman pretty much.
If that boy's British, I'm a Martian.