Wow! This is crazy! "New Jeans" has much more resemblance with "Jeans" than "Illit" has with "New Jeans"! And the audacity and lack of integrity to accuse other groups of plagiarising your content when you, yourself literally copy everything from another group is outrageously arrogant of them! At this point, I feel like she just couldn't digest Illit doing well on the charts and the possibility of them surpassing New Jeans when she had invested so much of her time and energy trying to surpass BTS. It must be too much for her to take and hence what we are seeing now! PS: It's funny that they even copied their name, just adding a "new" to it! This is a master class in lazy copying! At least you ought to be creative while copying!

@billparr

9 күн бұрын

You need to point out some facts before claiming such. That goes to all of you who clicked tumbs also.

@billparr

9 күн бұрын

Know what shame is

Not so NEW Jeans... 😂 This is beyond ridiculous.... the audacity of this woman.

@yen-8680

13 күн бұрын

Second hand jeans ? 😂

@beccal.5369

13 күн бұрын

@@yen-8680 MHJ went thrifting 😅

@catherinewandera8790

12 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂 y'all are so funny!

Mhj is a hypocrite. Her accusing Hybe's "illit" of copying her was just her projecting her own internal guilt. Wow!😮😮😮

I thinks she thought everyone else was stupid and wouldn’t find out.

@eileencritchley4630

13 күн бұрын

She forgot the power and reach of the internet.

This is the problem with accusing others of plagiarism! You have to be squeaky clean…….which NJ team obviously is not!!!!

How NJ mv director justified himself (that it's OKAY to copy classic, just not the recent ones) is disgusting. When I write, I put in long hours- thinking of appropriate vocabs to use, numerous editing of sentence structures etc. So if I found out tht someone has taken my work, only changed d name of the characters or name of the places and claimed the work as theirs, I'd be boiling 😡. IT'S NOT OKAY TO PLAGIARISE!

MHJ really thought that she won't get caught copying the original Jean's group since they didn't in Korea. She's just a liar with no originality, no talent.

One can take inspiration from other groups. But MHJ, took full credit that it was her own creation also attacking others for plagiarism coping her work.

😂😂😂they are so ridiculous..subjecting other groups for hate

The proper way to reference an inspiration was how Jimin talked about his song LC. He gave us the movie that inspired the song, his feelings or emotions as he was watching it and after he watched it, he took some lines from the movie and used it in his song and because he acknowledge the movie/source of the thing that inspired his song, the movie director appreciated him for it and even gave his song a shout out. That's the respectful way of letting the world know you borrowed or took something from someone to use or add to your art. That is referencing.

@tessie4698

12 күн бұрын

very true, well pointed out!

@1hotshon

12 күн бұрын

He made it extremely clear and it actually made people want to watch the movie ... A win:win situation!

@blazeyo.1554

12 күн бұрын

@@tessie4698 MHJ for all her inspirations w/c where frankly a lot and all songs/mv has its "inspiration" from w/c she copied HEAVILY, she never acknowledged any of them. Prideful and just greedy. She'll get sued up her ass and unfortunately its HYBE that has to pay up.

@ruthfischer7615

12 күн бұрын

Same with "Standing Next To you" MV and the director of "Romeo & Juliet" (the version with Leonardo DiCaprio). Credit your inspirations.

The nerve of her claiming plagiarism when she obviously was the one doing it 💀

@zv8365

13 күн бұрын

She's projecting her wrongdoings onto others.

@tessie4698

12 күн бұрын

​@@zv8365 same thing with media play she has been doing it so much ever since she claimed it too

Copying is copying regardless of time.....their "excuseS" are catching up real fast....

Min Hee Jin was selling a knock-off jeans

Honestly I dont care about MHJ and her copying, what pisses me off is she is a hypocrite acting as if she has invented the whole concept and accusing several grps for copying her which was not even hers😂😂

@zv8365

13 күн бұрын

I think that's how most people feel.

@tiffanyt9329

13 күн бұрын

I think it was just an excuse for her copying and saying that hybe treating her bad so she can take ador herself. She plain this before illit debuted. She didn't know how good she had it. You can fly so high, but you have come down to eat sometimes. And now she knows.

Oh, the irony. Yeah, if you don't mention the inspiration, it's plagiarism.

@Ihsaan_ASMR

13 күн бұрын

Oh dear that's not how it works

@isha.sarraf

13 күн бұрын

​​@@Ihsaan_ASMR That's how it works.. if u don't mention before the release that it is inspired by something it plagiarism . And fact that min hi jin claims its her own original when it is not and pointing fingers at other groups it's just hypocrisy

@halalmarthnihpai4946

13 күн бұрын

​@@isha.sarraf yeah...she is pathetic

I understand that disliking NewJeans seem unfair, but their public support for MHJ is frustrating. They shouldn't intervene, let alone file a court petition in support of MHJ.

@cct2825

12 күн бұрын

Well, they're under the influence of an extremely manipulative narcissist. They really should not have involved themselves, I agree. But they were very likely manipulated into it. I mean, that woman nearly fooled the most of the korean public in 2 hours, think of what constantly being exposed to MHJ must be like.

@Godiva360

12 күн бұрын

Exactly they should have stayed in their lane and keep quiet, because they are very young girls. Let the adults fight it out but no. people are turning on them...

@elisapulido2962

12 күн бұрын

Exactly New jeans needs to keep quite 😅

@andreahl3494

12 күн бұрын

Eh, it's their right. Unfortunately choices have consequences. Hopefully, MHJ won't F those youngsters up more to save herself.

@DearlyBeloved652

12 күн бұрын

I agree. It seems harsh, but these kids need to learn actions have consequences. The parents aren't teaching them that by making excuses. If it is okay for them to attack Bang and Hybe publicly, it's okay for them to be judged for doing it.

As they say don't throw stones if you live in a glass house

This "homage" is only an excuse because they got caught plagiarising a groups concept,outfits,hairstyles,name of the group and choreography MHJ basically took EVERYTHING that Jeans had and rebranded it as HER idea and came at another group for having similar choreo when she did far worse than that

@andreahl3494

12 күн бұрын

Honestly, the choreo thingy should be rights given to the choreographer and not the CEO. Apparently when choreographers make choreos for their songs, they sign off royalties over that so it becomes the property of the company. Kinda unfair honestly. MHJ did not make those choreo so she has no right to blabber "It's mine! It's mine!". It just so happens that the choreographers they had for Illit were probably the same ones choreographing NJ. (I could be wrong, just a guess)

True homage involves openly crediting the source of your inspiration from the start, not as a response to criticism or after being caught.

@agnesdesiderio4538

12 күн бұрын

Nuff said

That woman, MHJ, is destroying New Jeans's career. And in their comeback, it's so disgusting! It's crazy how their parents and New Jeans's fans are still by her side at this point.

@sharonlahaye5803

12 күн бұрын

But New Jeans is helping her to destroy themselves. They should have kept their mouths shut, not support her. Let her deal with the accusations herself. Very unprofessional move.

@mindymins

12 күн бұрын

tbh i don't think this will destroy their career. i think they'll be fine and their cb will do well. i see most of korean gp is on nj's side. i think its more hybe that is going to be hit a lot if mhj does get fired.

They're only saying it's an homage because they got caught lol.

@FaruqueLMS

13 күн бұрын

The difference being one is a recent girl group from the same company, from the same country. The other one isn't. "Plagiarism" is only a issue when it causes harm. New Jeans does get harmed by ILLIT blatantly copying them. It harms their market value. It doesn't harm Jeans in anyway because they are not even active and not even in the same country. The hybe stans are coping, attacking new jeans only harms HYBE further.

@cypressxsg4815

13 күн бұрын

​@@FaruqueLMSstop spreading illogical thinking here

@YST19718

13 күн бұрын

Copying is copying whether it caused harm or not. A killer is a killer no matter what if his victim is dead or not.

@tor13128

13 күн бұрын

@@FaruqueLMS What the heck, you made up definitions in order to defend MHJ and NJ... Don't even argue back, just stop now.

@Yasnaya_Luna

13 күн бұрын

Actually if they especially MHJ really want to do homage, then they should mention them in interviews when there question about y2k concept or praise about their refreshing concept. It would be more honorable if they said it was a sample rather than homage as they never talked about jeans before this.

How are you gonna copy a group entire style, etc, and cry that another group is copying you? MHJ is a delusional lady who needs help. I hope Jeans sue them for plagiarism so they can get a taste of their own medicine.

@lotusfloat2020

7 күн бұрын

My impression of the Mexican girl group Jeans in this truly cringey affair is, they were & continue to be, very gracious & for which I salute them 👍👏👏

I mean, wow, just wow. She accuses everyone of plagiarism, turns out she has committed full out theft. Wild.

@lotusfloat2020

7 күн бұрын

She had better be careful, has enuff trouble already on her plate now with Be-Lift suing her, any day now Bollywood's gonna come after her for all the plagiarized choreo moves aaahahahaha😆😆🤣🤣

Also, using the excuse that it's classic so it's okay to copy is nonsense as well. Jeans isn't super well known world wide, so if you don't mention the reference points people wouldn't even understand you're paying a tribute in any sort of way. At that point it's plagiarism and you're not expecting anyone to notice. And honestly, if MHJ hadn't started attacking other groups for copying NJs there's a good chance we never would have found out about their inspiration since they never bothered referencing it. With the Powerpuff girl theme that they did, it was culturally popular enough for people to understand what their inspiration was and they didn't deny or try to hide that. So if their intent was to actually give credit to the first from an appreciation of this classic group, then it would have been just as obvious, but it wasn't. It was just outright theft, hoping the group was obscure enough and powerless enough to never do anything about it.

@papuwong5637

13 күн бұрын

yes....compare that to the way Jhope/BH treated the original artist behind chicken noodle soup....it was shared in a previous comment that "JHope actually paid the original artist out of his own pocket to re make chicken noodle soup.Yeah I think he paid more than $2million, and he always shouts out bianca & webstar when he performs it. It was one of the songs that inspired him to dance as a kid. To think when BTS started out they could barely afford to eat and all shared a room but they came this far...I believe he also let them keep the royalties He paid 2.7 million. He didn't even have to do that, because the song was released as a free gift for ARMY, so he made no money off the track, meaning he did not have to pay for the rights. He did it anyway, out of respect. That's just the kind of people BTS members are." I wish Hybe would incorporate this into their corporate vision and culture...and if they can succeed globally with this core values....they are definitely the new era of entertainment worthy of support. Gone are the corrupt days of PDiddy, Harvey Weinstein, Burning Sun type activities, SM, etc.

@catherinewandera8790

13 күн бұрын

💯!👍

NJ parents are greedy

@cypressxsg4815

13 күн бұрын

Sadly Fifty fifty 2.0

Tbh I'm just hoping to see a public apology from the families of NJ when all of this settles down. I want them to acknowledge the entitlement they've expressed as just that: Entitlement. Not to mention that it would probably help their kids' reputation going forward after all this is over. I fear they're in for a hard time.

Copying is copying, old or new stuffs... there are not homage in there that all

This is amazing and I am so GLAD it's coming out. As a professional designer, this is an actual COPY of font usage and styles and name. Adding NEW in front of us... is funny. REALLY!? This is plagiarism for real. I've had clients ask me to copy XYZ of their competitors and I refused and explain the legal ramifications.

wow karma is really so fast lol

This just keeps getting funnier and funnier. I can't wait for the end of the month...

There's a said if you point your finger to someone remember the other four fingers are pointing at you.

Currently, the standard copyright laws protect up to 75 yrs; assuming Mex law meets this standard, “Jeans” has approx 30 yrs ownership over everything they created. Plagiarism is costly, even more so the bigger the percentage plagiarised, which in the case of MHJ project is close to 90%. Jeans members all still alive and two still active and fairly well known in Mexico, have just won the lottery As it’s said in Spanish lore “nadie sabe para quién trabaja” (no one knowns for whom they work) I feel for the girls involved, but not for all the adults illegally appropriating some one else’s work While Hy will loose some $$, MHJ and everyone involved have lost their futures in the industry Allow me to reference a classic: “They who laugh last, laugh best”

Hybe antis and bunnies won't like this video. They just want an opportunity to attack BSH and other hybe artists.

I feel bad for these young girls, the influence this woman had over them, how she must have manipulated them, they young. I hope they will be ok!

I think Jeans will sue, there's money in it for sure and NJ is reported to earn some money so Jeans knowing the group literally stole from them will go the route of suing for royalties and damages

the truth will always come to light , thats why honesty and being straightforward is the best policy for anyone, specially artist, the issue is not that people uses other’s art and creations as inspiration, is the hypocrisy of being a copycat while claiming you are an OG while bashing anyone else who does the same thing you are guilty of ( in this case minheejin). just be honest about it and leave the ego at the door. honestly i agree with those saying that they are saying sorry simply because they got caught.

Karma said hold my beer🤣🤣

NOT JUST COPY BUT CARBON COPY

Just one conclusion from this uncovering of plagiarism: It debunks MHJ’s injunction entirely, as her case is based on the alleged plagiarism of NJs by other Hy’s ggroups On the other hand, since Hy didn’t rebut that argument of hers in court, they obviously weren’t aware of the situation. Having a successful gg has been BSH’s pet project since the beginnings of BigHit, but he wud never have risked BigHit/Hy’s image and prestige with such blatant plagiarism. Further, not long ago Hy launched a project for expansion in LatAM based in Mex, stealing from a fairly known Mex gg doesn’t make sense; too risky (I understand that Jeans’ songs are still played in “oldies songs” radios)

Irony is ILLIT only has minor elements similar to New Jeans whereas the overall concept of ILLIT is much more traditional j-pop fairy concept aimed at otaku audience. New Jeans on the other hand is a literally the new Jeans.

@nostalgicdoll222

13 күн бұрын

Please spread this everywhere!

@kyoukaiten3834

13 күн бұрын

lmao NEWJEANS is a fuking NEW JEANS

@TheJacqueswong

13 күн бұрын

Exactly, NJ is a total knock off while they accuse other of plagarizing them.

@Imme_begin

12 күн бұрын

@@TheJacqueswong I think we should be careful using the word “they”. This should be about MHJ (“she”). This is an ample of why using proper pronouns is important.

@andreahl3494

12 күн бұрын

True. The Lolita style of fashion really made me think of that.

MHJ has been bragging about how she is the main reason why NJ is NJ. Yet, we have someone else saying they are responsible and it’s an homage? She claims illit copied them in the very same ways they copied Speed and Jeans. Well well well..

Oh man, I really want this drama to be over ASAP. Now, MHJ bots will try to bring up 'copying issues' like BTS's jacket color, hair color, etc. Again, the attention of ARMYs will be deviated. We have an album release in three days, Jin coming back, Festa, etc. Plus, we need to focus on eight profiles (BTS plus seven solo). We have to prioritize those who have a chance to win awards while giving sustainable streams to other songs. Plus, that witch would pay tabloids to bring out all sorts of negative articles about BTS. The chart allegations are in the news again. Seriously, I am fed up.😢😢😢.

@beluuzz

13 күн бұрын

Don't give any attention to the chart news, it's just the same old shit being repeated by a corrupt journalist, it's all lies. Don't give any clicks and don't interact. Forget about it.

@snowleopard8588

13 күн бұрын

BTS has always had crap thrown at them since day 1 and it hasn’t stopped even now. Despite this they have only grown bigger and bigger. No matter what people do now they will still do well. Just look at how RM got a #1 in the UK Singles chart with ‘come back to me’ even during this mess. You can see why MHJ waited until BTS enlisted as she knew if they were still here all they would have to do is release a song and she and her issue would be drowned out.

@user-gy8zq6vb3j

13 күн бұрын

Honestly, just ignore all those ugly things and focus on the boys.

Oh, and I found it interesting that the director said his mindset on this more aligns with MHJ than Bang PD. Hybe really messed up with adding her to their team. She doesn't have the same mindset as the core of Hybe which is Big Hit. Probably the biggest problem with becoming a conglomerate is they have aligned themselves with people and institutions that do not share the core of their vision. Like don't get me wrong, Big Hit wants to make money too (in the end capitalism is going to capitalize), but they do have a core belief in creating good music and investing in their artists, whereas MHJ doesn't truly care as long as they make money.

@delasmercedes2940

13 күн бұрын

I think that Hy senior management has learnt a very tough lesson. I just hope that this experience harden them enough to avoid a repetition, at the same time, I also hope that their principles of a renewal in the k-pop industry, for the sake of the artists and music creation, remains unscathed Is it asking too much?

Pluto did not reference Astro Boy. It's an adaptation of one of the chapters of the original Manga, and the writer stated that very clearly and also credited the original writer of Astro Boy, whose son supervised the series. It is nothing like what this director did with New Jean's. Wow, these people are so-called professionals 😂

What is that guy talking about? If a girl group popped up today, looking like a carbon copy of spice girls, that new girl group will be called spice girls copycat. And probably gonna be treated as such too. You don't get a free pass just because something is classic (unless it is in a public domain but even then if you copy everything one to one, you're gonna be accused of plagiarism). Honestly, people wouldn't care or unearth all this if they just do their own thing and quietly continue to be "inspired" by the classics. They were the one who started throwing accusations at others as if they were the originators of nostalgic bait school girl old school y2k 90s pop girl groups concepts.

@ahantu

12 күн бұрын

Some people are concerned with the content they chose to copy - trying to appeal to .... with lolita-ish undertone, regardless of their concept/image of being relatable to younger audiences.

To be honest, she sounds like a classic narcissist and with that type, their lies eventually catch up to them and expose them but they usually continue believing in their own right and entitlement no matter what... 🙈🙈🙈

@cct2825

13 күн бұрын

I agree. She really does exhibit legitimate narcissistic behavior. Her inability to admit to faults, how her own faults are everyone else's fault, how the girls' success is solely because of her and not because they worked hard or are talented... etc. The list is long. Those girls will only suffer being under her. I hope they stay with Hybe.

@beluuzz

13 күн бұрын

​@@cct2825I hope they don't stay under Hybe, the members were siding and protecting MHJ even when she was attacking multiple groups and most importantly BTS!! Their freaking seniors!! They can leave and never come back!

@cct2825

13 күн бұрын

@beluuzz they are kids. And kids under the influence of an extremely manipulative person, no less. Like Fairlane said - the girls of New Jeans are completely alone. There is no one currently guiding them who does not have something to gain from them (money/stability) ; not their parents, not their team, and certainly not MHJ. Whatever advice they are given by the grown ups surrounding them is tainted with selfishness.

I don't find anything wrong in taking inspiration specially when done respectfully, but I do find it incredibly arrogant to try to claim a trend as your own. It is absurd that the director is claiming that trends are against some sort of a national rule. They're trying to ride two horses at the same time. What they are trying to push is that these things were common for girl groups to share in the 90s and early 2000s so they should not be held accountable but suddenly after NJ used it, it is no longer free to be used by other girl groups and they should be held accountable. That's a bit ridiculous. How can you claim plagiarism for something that was never yours to begin with? When you take things from the zeitgeist, you don't get to call dibs on it. They don't stop belonging to the the zeitgeist just because you used them first. Your collection of things from the zeitgeist is still a part of the zeitgeist. Even if you brought back the trend, you suddenly don't get ownership of it and you have no authority to prevent others from being a part of that trend. As professionals who have been in the industry long enough, they should know better.

@AilinLoh

11 күн бұрын

They are hypocritical in this regard

I was saying Min Hee-jin stole from a whole lot of 90's acts...and I started with the black American girl group TLC, who debuted in 1992...before Jeans or the Japanese group. She even stole her style of stealing from the artist well in this case HYBE from American producer Pebbles. She took claim for discovering TLC (the lies) and manageed TLC. Well we know their story and how they were an million ++++album selling GG before social media, and were bankrupt, they never made any money...even after winning 4 Grammy's. I wouldn't be surprised, if Min Hee-jin didnt make herself a member of the New Jeans, to also get paid...just like Pebbles did and TLC didn't know it, until they started looking into their contracts...just saying.

@lorineakoth834

12 күн бұрын

Woah! You're actually not wrong just recently I was looking at the TLC girls in Google and saw a whole bankrupt thing then followed it it was sad plus one of the members being haunted to death 😢

@44sgyrl

12 күн бұрын

Yes TLC, Destiny's Child, Aliyah. She copied heavily from all of them. Look it up

Dang copied exactly like them too. Nothing is original. I mean have some changes.

🤪🤪 MHJ - "MY ORIGINAL CONCEPT" 😜. 🤣🤣🤣 Sad for the artist whom MHJ pointed out copying her so callled originality. What a mess! 😤😤 Sad for HYBe as parent company: they have to face these public mess and legal responsibility, as well as financial loss. But MHJ started it and anger the international fans - so it just a backfires to her so called "my original concept". She must be responsible for her unethical response as CEO -it is mishandling of company internal conflict and issues resulting to public scrutiny, etc... .... .... .🤪🤪

Im not tht mad at the “inspiration” (but let’s say it - IT LOOKS ALMOST CARBON COPY) 😂 anywayyyyy im more mad because mhj and the whole team have the audacity to attack other groups (while she herself dang well copied whole entire other gg) and claim tht hybe audit her bc she complained of the illit style copying NJ. NO, hybe audit mhj because she and her team plotting sabotage & coup! She just use the illit/ style copying issue to distract the fact that she committed crime!!

@kidslearning6659

13 күн бұрын

It is carbon copy

She opened this "plagiarism" issue up by accusing others of copying her. This is the kind of can of worms you open up by acting like the worst kpop fan and pointing fingers at others when you aren't squeaky clean either, far from it. I also think legally speaking it's a non-issue in the case of Hybe groups, John Kim (Komerican-OG) explained it well in his first video on the subject that MHJ when she worked under SM all her concepts became the companies concepts, they are owned by SM. And the same applies for Hybe. We can debate about is it ethical or not but at the end of the day Hybe owns Ador, it's a subsidiary. If they want to copy themselves they legally can do it. Now my question is when did MHJ start complaining about "plagiarism" was it well before getting wind of the audit or right after? She would have had to take this issue up with the company in writing a formal complaint but did this happen before the audit? Frankly, I think this issue was created when they knew they were about to get caught with their take down Hybe plan.

@sbbs207

12 күн бұрын

According to what I understood, it was a part of MHJ's plan to accuse other companies under hybe of copying NJ. So it could have happened before or after Hype decided to conduct an audit, but I think it would have happened regardless.

@nanisantiago307

12 күн бұрын

Everything was when she got ear of the audit

If they took inspiration from this other group regardless of it being recent or not then they should have referenced them. The fact is they didn’t then chose to point out when others had done it. Honestly mhj and her side look like a bunch of hypocrites now more than ever. I’m not daft I know hybe aren’t perfect either but there’s just to much she’s lied about just to paint herself in the right light and unfortunately it looks like she may end up taking new jeans with her

Bunnies were already bu!!ying Illit since debut, but admist all this drama a lot of baemon/bp fans and some other company fans took this opportunity to drag them ( illit). even more. They camp under every Illit video. I can't bear the hate those little girls are getting. Those pathetic kpop Stans can never make me hate hybe groups 💕.

@andreahl3494

12 күн бұрын

I am also skeptical of HYBE because now that it's no longer just BigHit, some changes are bound to appear. However, seeing the hate people are piling on to LS and especially Illit makes me hate MHJ more and have softer spot for HYBE's side.

@ruthfischer7615

12 күн бұрын

@@bumbee-li6hb Hate is not a competition. It's wrong t hate on either artists (or the other artists that are pulled into this). (I noticed an attack on Seventeen and TXT that I believe has to do with this. That people even believe this I find so strange but as a "narrative" it is unfortunately already established)

First I heard about the Shakatak song, now this Jeans group plagiarizing and about 10 years ago Jungkook got his Bunny name.

At this point nothing I hear about MJH is even shocking. She is a classic narcissist and eternal victim. I hope this can be used as evidence as to why she is unfit to continue working as a CEO. As for New Jeans the group, I am so upset with the adults around them. How ignorant are the parents? And what about their legal representation? Who advises them to officially take a side in this? I’m sure they wanted to, but someone, anyone should have told them they needed to think about their careers and let these two companies fight it out. I believe MHJ will be fired, if not physically then psychologically. Even if she could win the injunction, she is NEVER again going to enjoy the freedoms she had a Hybe. I’m pretty sure they are moving them out of the 16th floor as we speak. And not for nothing, but HYBE is petty; they will keep them in court for a decade - and there goes those girls’ career. This is a classic case of when your EGO writes a check your body CANNOT cash!

@andreahl3494

12 күн бұрын

AOA Mina 2.0

I knew all new jeans whole concept was not original . Their ceo will ruin them

IA, acknowledging you took from someone else's work after you've been exposed doesn't have the same moral high ground as volunteering the info upfront. As they say when you point a finger at others, there are 3 pointing back at you. Poetic Justice at work.

Mhj thought she was all and mighty and nothing can't touch her. She's a narcissistic person. Now I love newjeans but she thought they're was the same level as bts or Blackpink. But newjeans wasn't there yet, they are barely 2 years old group. Bts and Blackpink took them years to get where they are now. Mhj couldn't wait start to demanding things at hybe. They gave her everything she wanted until she got to greedy. I feel so sorry for everyone involved.

@stargazing2628

13 күн бұрын

Adding BP in this conversation is such a sneak. BP is no where near BTS, not in terms of music, artistry, achievements, awards, popularity or anything else. They're definitely big in Kpop and as a gg but BTS is bigger than the entire kpop industry put together. They're the biggest group, not kpop or bg, but the biggest group on the planet and one of the biggest artists of all times. Also it did not take BP years to become successful, just like NJ they started out privileged, from one of the big 3, just like NJ, YG also used to promote BP as the Next BTS. NJ and BP are more similar than you might realise and they definitely can be considered as competition to one another. However none of them are touching BTS.

@tiffanyt9329

12 күн бұрын

@stargazing2628 I mean, they are the girls' version of bts. That's why I said Blackpink into the conversation. I think there's no other girls group in sales,concerts, fashion, etc, compared to Blackpink. I'm not taking anything away from bts accomplished. That's why I said Blackpink in girl groups and Bts in the boys' groups. IS not a sneak when I mention Blackpink and bts in terms of success. I'm not attacking bts. You're the one who is making into this imaginary fanwar what I said about them. Just stop.

@stargazing2628

12 күн бұрын

​@@tiffanyt9329 Me stating facts is not making this into a fanwar, Look at the first sentence of your reply, "they are the girl version of BTS", as if they're anywhere close to BTS. And this is what BP's management and fans have been doing since forever, riding off of BTS to appear bigger than they are. And read your oc again, you didn't specify bg, gg and that is besides the point. Leave the so called gg title aside and BP is not even in the top20 biggest groups let alone artists. When BTS is the biggest group of all times and one of the biggest artists in the world currently despite being in a hiatus since 2022. BP is not the girl version of BTS, they're not the next BTS stop this bs. This is the problem Army's have with NJs, this is the problem we have with BP and any other group that keeps riding off of BTS's name.

@tiffanyt9329

12 күн бұрын

@stargazing2628 Okay, tell me, who's the biggest girl group ? Term in sale,endorsement deals, sold-out concerts. I didn't say they are on the same level as bts. But they are up there. You created a fanwar when I mentioned Blackpink and Bts in the same sentence. You are the one starting to give biographies of bts. I never said Blackpink was better than Bts. I just said MHJ thought that newjeans was on the same level as Blackpink or Bts on term on their individual success.

So New Jeans copied Jeans. How interestingly coincidental their names are. I guess 'new' jeans aren't so new after all. And this director guy, he finds it 'annoying' to check other releases to be sure he's not duplicating or copying? And there's 'no reason to avoid doing that anyway' because he's apparently got some personal calendar on when it becomes all right to copy an older work? Well, perhaps he'll see how much more annoying it can be when one is prosecuted- and hopefully, dismissed- for plagiarizing.

@zv8365

13 күн бұрын

More like Rip-off Jeans

The more that information is being revealed the more insane MHJ, sounds! Also, I would normally agree to not involve the artist but in this case NJ'S inserted themselves in this mess when they and their parents sent the letter supporting MHJ, so now unfortunately, they are fair game!!

@ruthfischer7615

12 күн бұрын

They were that before, too. Nevermind that it is not even a 100% certain that they even wrote that thing. There was a message before that that MHJ wrote - to be fair on stuff at least one member asked - and claimed are fully supported by them. The fact that the theme seems to be "we can't do without her" instead of "we don't *want*" to do without her" alone should show how far removed from the truth their knowledge is.

@sincerelyyours-sz6lg

12 күн бұрын

​@@ruthfischer7615 It's horrible that MHJ most likely has it embedded in their heads that they are a complete failure without her, but the parents? Also, it appears that there's nothing new or original about them! If miraculously this group is given another chance, who would trust or respect them and if my only choice is the collapse of NJ'S or Hybe then, im sorry but, bye NJ'S!

@ruthfischer7615

12 күн бұрын

@@sincerelyyours-sz6lg That I agree with. But I do hope it does not come to that. (nevermind that the parents do not know how it works and if you look online you see many dark stories. She visited the families and ate with them while gaslighting them with the believe that what NJ got was thanks to her and her "motherly" fight for NJ instead of because they are a HYBE group that is very supported with many benefits to all their artists)

I’m so ready for this to be over, but if anyone doesn’t believe in KARMA, this might convince them. I do feel for the girls of New Jeans and I am sure they had no idea that Jeans from Mexico even existed. This must be a nightmare for them. I don’t know if they will continue to stand firm with MHJ as more comes to light or not. I hope their eyes begin to open, but as they do, I have concerns for them. They may feel loss, a feeling of being betrayed and used by someone they deeply trusted and wholeheartedly supported while the world watched. That could be hard to work through mentally at any age, but these are young girls. I hope they get out of this with very little scars and that members of all the groups MHJ has hurt rise above and soar. That includes BTS!

@barbaravaldez5817

12 күн бұрын

I think her Shamam or whatever is called did not do a good job for her more like a messy one

Wow 😳😲. I guess the Piper came to early to collect the debt. If only MHJ had kept quiet about being copied, then all this wouldn't be uncovered. Pride will be the fall of man. Oh well. 😂

Then you have ILLIT beeing dragged left and right for 3 moves used also by many other gg and some Y2K fashion. We are talking here about NAME, LOGO, MV, Concept, some dance step, promotional material....

@daverbaortiz3401

12 күн бұрын

Yes!! She acts like if her concept but that’s from the 90s. I remember there were a lot of good groups from Mexico in the 90s like Jeans and my favorite Onda Vaselina aka OV7

Hellos I'm from Mexico... Yes from this begging in recognize the name. Because it was a group of my teens. But I don't follow like girl group (that's another story). So yesterday I was shock with the looks alike and everything 😮. Yes it's exactly as you say. Knowledge and don't start a war over you supposed invention.😮....I'm really mad at her.... Don't understand what BTS has to do with al this 😢

@lizbailey7748

12 күн бұрын

BTS has nothing to do with this except that MHJ and NJ capitalised on their reputation to further their careers and make money. The companies sponsoring NJ should opt out if they can and demand their money back ... I'm sure they have some sort of morality clause and have broken that with their criminal behaviour. Lock up MHJ and throw away the key.

@elisapulido2962

12 күн бұрын

😢me to ℹ remember Jeans and I saw the similarities with New Jeans. This is absolutely absurd 😢

Dulce Maria , a member of Jeans posted an old picture of her (during Jeans era ) on Instagram story. So it seems that they are aware of this issue. I hope they would take legal charges against MHJ.

Thank you for the update. Miss Min has truely been 'hoist by her own petard'.

She cried wolf now they’re not original so sad 😭 mother Gothel need to go wither in the corner 🥀

A diss track should be dropped for Ador. 😂 The audacity of this individual to use someone's creation for their own gain. The era of New Jeans is coming to an end. As they choose to stay with this vile and lunatic woman,their careers are over now after this confession. And Rabid Anti's and Bunnies who are throwing shade towards HYBE and playing the victim-card. Well, the confession was already said and you still keep on gaslighting yourself that HYBE is the real villain here. Shame on you!

@AiBkomachi

13 күн бұрын

BTS should be dropping that most awaited cypher V

@RieCeleste

13 күн бұрын

@@AiBkomachi BTS should so that the people who are involved should spit the truth out. I hope that the diss track would sound like Kendrick Lamar's.

@rebeccaavoca9143

13 күн бұрын

wait for yoongi, JHope & RM come back .. hopefully they'll make another diss tracks

@Hybegroupsdefender

12 күн бұрын

#BringBackSuga

When you point one finger at others then 4 more fingers point back at you....and MHJ deserves it....i was ready to pity NJ that looked like a victim...but when they want to stand fervertly with MHJ and their parents are even more toxic I think they can go ahead and justify this latest debucle. Did they know their name, look and even choreo are all "referencing' some earlier "Jeans"??...proberbly not...but will they still support MHJ so loudly as if she is as white as snow...i hope not. She just exposed her one good product as a copy that she tried to pump off as so unique that everyone else were thieves stealing from her and her girls....sheessh....she is a liar and she made NJ into liars too...waiting to see the bulldog parents "letter" on this....

@ruthfischer7615

12 күн бұрын

Victims of abuse/a scam/gaslighting will always have trouble to see it even if it is very clear for everyone else. MHJ made them believe she is all that. She made sure that their parents believed it, too. She isolated them from the rest so they had no reference that is actually the truth of HYBE artists. It's pretty much a Fifty Fifty situation from last year (only these members were not also heavily abused). Keena only noticed because she noticed a disptach article that showed she had been scammed out of copyright fees for Cupid. So she investigated and got her father on her side. She also tried to convince the other members but those were too deep under the influence of their real abuser. Keena left and asked for forgiveness. The new Fifty Fifty will be built around her. Will they be successfull? IDK. But at least she now has a chance. I have no idea what the situation is with the other (ex-)members now. You can't really expect better from New Jeans at the moment. In a few years they are likely to know it, too. But that is in the far future for now. Maybe they are noticing now if they saw her text messages about them. But maybe they believe them to be made up and that court threw them out as lies as some fans believe.

Hmm..it's funny that MHJ's biggest complaint was ILLIT copying her, but when her people were copying other people it was fine? I feel so bad for NJ, MHJ is going to take them down with her.

@terrirocklover7957

12 күн бұрын

I do feel bad for NJ, but tbh their parents are partially at fault. They should have at least listened to Hybe's point of view, esp after seeing the derogatory messages MJH sent regarding the girls. Now they filed the petition with the court, plus hired an attorney who specializes in contract termination....that tells Hybe exactly what they're planning. Those were not smart moves at all, if they're truly interested in saving the future of NJ.

@lotusfloat2020

7 күн бұрын

She had better be careful, has enuff trouble already on her plate now with Be-Lift suing her, any day now Bollywood's gonna come after her for all the plagiarized choreo moves aaahahahaha 😆😆🤣🤣

The mind boggles after all the dirt she threw and is throwing at BangPD and Hybe! She should have a committee meeting with the spirits she is accepting advice from and ask them to formulate a consistent story!

@bumbee-li6hb

13 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

Thank you for your video. My thoughts are confirmed and in concrete now. ADOR has lost all credibility. Of course, MHJ had none to begin with in my eyes. I saw her for what she was in the beginning. I would settle now and get her out of my company. If anyone knows what it's like to go through controversy and hardship, it's BTS. They'll give all the support they can, because after all, look who's on top! Love your channel. 💜

“The saying “people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones' ' really applies here. For me it’s not about copying another group's look ,dance moves or even style.. In the music business there are no totally new things only using what came before to build on that to create something new. I have a problem with the hypocrisy of MHJ and her creative team. For weeks they have pointed the finger at Illet and other groups, claiming that they were plagiarizing their dance moves. concepts and style. MHJ was so original in creative direction that everyone else need to stop copying her. The definition for hypocrisy is “the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform;” The creative team and MHJ owe Illet and the other groups they have dragged through the mud a big apology.

@neljade3341

13 күн бұрын

💯💯💯

Wow!!! She lied again... She did not use her own creative ideas for NJ visuals. Anyway, she copied a Latina group that most in the US haven't heard of and didn't expect anyone to find out. For me it's all about being honest. Just say it was inspired by or a homage. But that is not happening on her end.. "instead ...it's a classic group". while she's accusing everyone of coping NJ.. Question: Was the other groups coping NJ or the "classic group Jeans" as well ? Bottom line is... MHD has brought so much unwanted attention and some might say negative attention to her group.. For they trusted her creative ideas not knowing they were not hers. The Warning Signs Are Flashing Bright Red.. SHE CAN"T BE TRUSTED.. SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN YOUR TALENT.. IT'S ALL ABOUT HER INTERESTS.. If this doesn't wake up the parents of NJ then they should not be surprised when sponsor's start backing away from NJ because of this woman's deceptions.

So they pretty much copied Jean's who are now JNS they are really popular in Mexico and other parts of Latin America.

Always knew that there was an old jeans out there 😂

wowww lo admitió … es impresionante, ni siquiera tuvieron la decencia de cambiar el nombre.. increíble.

The fact that most people bought mhj press conference is mind boggling to me. Even if her claims of nj being copied were true, (which we see here, they are not and even more ironic SHE was the one who copied and plagiarised others), that doesn’t change these horrifying facts: - is the only one naming names in this whole debate: she was the one that brought up illit, lssrfm names unnecessarily in HER press conference, and that resulted in a massive hate train against minors. Regardless of is she was right and it was true they copied her what she did is using minors as a shield and that is plain wrong, even if she said I have nothing against the girls this is about the adults she is in the Kpop world since a decade, she KNEW what that would do - she still didn’t return the laptop that the company gave her and that the company has every right to have back company property - she brought nj members and their parents into this mess, claiming nj call her to support her, and telling the parents to not answer hybe calls. Which is 101 burning bridges with the company, and nj officially didn’t state anything in favour to mhj, so she saying “they call me to console me” is her using them as a shield, while they themselves didn’t officially want to take a stance, probably because they were (rightfully) advised against it, which was the real smart thing to do.

Due to the fact that jeans was such an older group they thought they would not get caught. Agree that they should have acknowledged that group this is going to leave the “*” on the group NJ. Hope that the parents will now step up and protect their children!

@someonewho

12 күн бұрын

Showing by past behavior I think their parents are supporting mhj more than their kids

@lizbailey7748

12 күн бұрын

Think it's too late for that. The parents have already shown they only care about money not their girls. Either that or they are incredibly naive, ignorant and irresponsible in their duty of care.

Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. She should never have started this mess 🙆‍♀️ ; Because what she did by first accusing ILLIT, opened up a pandora's box for others to start digging up dirt on HER. She could have gotten away with it too if she hadn't made the accusations because I guarantee no one was checking for this mexican group 'Jeans'. I bet majority of Kpop had never heard of them. But thanks to MHJ we now have🤭 I doubt they (original Jeans) will sue though. New Jeans debuted more than 2 years ago, they would have done it *then* I think. Someone even said they already disbanded and are not active anymore. But guess which channel won't be sharing this juicy piece of news??🤪 KOOKIELIT .. LoL And if they do it will be twisted somehow to still favour MHJ and make her the hero, you just watch.

@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult

12 күн бұрын

Now that they have it in writing they almost certainly will

@dangie7735

12 күн бұрын

Even if they disbanded, the label that represented them could step forward... because news travels fast and if it hasn't reached them, it will.

@bbwalk100

12 күн бұрын

They are still active today but under a new name. They are aware of about this.

@chimwemwemoyo9374

12 күн бұрын

And that's why I unsubscribed 😅😅

@Godiva360

12 күн бұрын

You are so right about that channel its so bias as hell, its only one side narrative comes from them! & the Koreans eat it all up like a hungry pup, no critical thinking for them there.... 😜🤣😂

When I first heard New Jeans, I thought it was a copy of Jeans from Mexico. Jeans in Mexico is not a group any more, some went solos and a group of three began to call themselves JNS. The father of one of the girls was the producer, so he might be interested in doing something, don't know.

@beluuzz

13 күн бұрын

One of the members posted something like #throwback #Jeans with a finger heart! 😂😂😂 They know!

@lorineakoth834

12 күн бұрын

​@@beluuzzwhich one let me see

@noragtz

12 күн бұрын

@@lorineakoth834 Paty is now a singer for children. And don't remember the name of the other girl. And three of four are now JNS.

damnn she just copied and pasted the entire homework

Watch this video get less views because it doesn't fullfill the agenda of kpop Stans (hybe antis) .

@_Wonnielvrs

12 күн бұрын

Fr it’s always the videos that tell the full truth which antis can’t except that get the least views

@ruthfischer7615

12 күн бұрын

It already has over 10 000 views which is not bad at all for only being 15 hours old.

@Hybegroupsdefender

12 күн бұрын

@@ruthfischer7615 As it should 💅🏼. But deserves more so that the kpop community can stop bul!ying Illit.

I try to just watch and not comment since Korean is not my native language. But I will say this.... I am a child of the 80s - so I have noticed that when KPOP started majority of the music was not original but just taken from western music. Back then it was easier to do this under the radar because Korean music was not as global. But now that KPOP is more popular, the old formulas that worked for those companies can no longer apply if they want to sustain a global presence. I still notice alot of music and concepts that are taken from "classics". Now there is nothing wrong with using concepts, art, or music for inspiration but when you take someone's work and not give credit that is plagiarism. Just like writing a paper and noting the sources. So with this case, it just may open a bigger can of worms that may heavily impact the whole KPOP industry practice as a whole.

Finially some truth is coming out! I guess the Korean netizens won't like this truth either! lol.... Only believing in MHJ!🤣

If Mexican JEANS sues ADOR, who’s going to pay the damages. It will come out of HYBE pocket, correct?!?

@AsianEntertainmentandCulture

12 күн бұрын

ADOR will be liable but that of course spills over to HYBE

@shiuyan2987

12 күн бұрын

Ador’s budget, which is essentially Hybe.

@milissadaniels2727

12 күн бұрын

In a perfect world they would take it completely out of ADORE and bankrupt that label and then her shares are worth zero

@jaikhaisan

12 күн бұрын

NJs greedy parents, who pocketed their income.

IMO Adore (MHJ or whoever)suspects HYBE knows and will submit this to the courts on that final day. So they are trying to get ahead of it by revealing themselves. The whole Adore situation is a mess.

@user28221

12 күн бұрын

She only has until this Friday- May 24th to do that.

There's also another yt channel who talked about the NJ MV references or should I say a straight replica of the scenes to 2015 movie Mustang and 1981 Movie Christiane F. Both tackled disturbing stories involving minors: one with child marriage and other drug abuse and prostitution. Idk, MHJ's fascination with lolita and dark distrubing concept involving minors is really concerning.

@kusir9337

12 күн бұрын

Can u tell me the channel?

@Sakura-rc8gs

12 күн бұрын

​@kusir9337, it's Seoulite Tv

@AJP.OT7

12 күн бұрын

@@Sakura-rc8gshe is another channel I sometime like to watch for Korean news and updates to

@kusir9337

12 күн бұрын

@@Sakura-rc8gs thank u

@MGiff

12 күн бұрын

@@Sakura-rc8gs Asian Entertainment and Culture (this channel) and Seoulite TV are the 2 channels I watch for factual coverage of these topics. I respect and enjoy both of their styles and their other (non-MHJ vs HYBE) content.

V referenced David Bowie as his influence for Layover, that’s class and how you do it. BTS always gives credit to the original artist as they are usually role models for them. Sure sometimes things slip through the crack and you rely on others for the creatives, and when that happens you apologies and correct the mistake. BTS have NEVER claimed any of the art as original and it shows the difference in class between them and MHJ who is the biggest narcissist I’ve seen in a long time. I’m waiting on Shakattak’s response on the ‘plagiarism’ accusation about NJ’s ‘Bubblegum’ song, they sound similar. Plagiarising music has copyright law in its side, unlike copying concepts.

@helza2137

12 күн бұрын

I have lived long enough to spot an unprofessional and an entitled narcissist right from the start.

@irinaliudv380

12 күн бұрын

Agreed! Just want to add that at the same time many things that BTS create are original, but they never accused anyone of coping them.

@snowleopard8588

12 күн бұрын

@@irinaliudv380 yep. They have too much class.

@snowleopard8588

12 күн бұрын

@@helza2137 join the club.

ripjeans 😂

Wonder what the korean general public opinion now that this is all slowly coming out. What MHJ did was exposed herself to a very open public scrutiny about her past works and thats not a good thing for her and her future plans. It is starting to crack.

@Davis-uo2bh

11 күн бұрын

They still are being rude and insulting iilit.. they do not care smh

@rebeccaavoca9143

10 күн бұрын

CAUSE MANY OF THEM DONT SPEAK FOREIGN LANGUAGE .. OR COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO SPEAK SOMETHING THAT CAN BRING SHAME TO THEMSELVES ... IT'S NOTHING BEING COVERED BY SK NEWS ..

This is so bad, I can barely tell the difference between the two groups 😪 this is not a reference its copy and paste

@ginzuryrbd

11 күн бұрын

?????

@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq

9 күн бұрын

exactly... There's a big difference between "inspiration" and "plagiarism". The styles, the mv references, the dance steps, everything is copied. You can't say "thats how things were in 90s" coz it wasnt.

Today, there is too much kpop groups without any originality. Kpop becomes boring and a lot of fans are hysteric and agressive.

@stargazing2628

13 күн бұрын

Kpop was never original, almost everything was and is inspired from black music, western music industry and Jpop. There's very few groups that had and have originality, BTS being the biggest example. Their originality and authenticity is part of the reason that made them an anomaly in Kpop and the entire music industry.

@alwenawillis8813

12 күн бұрын

Actually the same can be said about pop in general, not just Korean pop!

@ruthfischer7615

12 күн бұрын

You are talking about how "K-pop" was from the very beginning. In fact there are more creative elements. That creative artists like BTS, Seventeen and Stray Kids are successfull is good. Fans have attacked each other even physically since first gen.

@Isalys

12 күн бұрын

@@ruthfischer7615 I'm taking about the New génération of kpop groups. New Boys groups are better than girls groups. BTS are the Best, they paved the way. They will be a legend in the Kpop Industry. They aren't like the others, on another level. 7 talented boys, all together or with their solo albums.

@ruthfischer7615

11 күн бұрын

@@Isalys I think the new girlgroups are fine. So are the boygroups. The only artist I attentively follow *IS* BTS. But that does not mean that I don't notice that there is more creativity in newer groups that there used to be during second gen..

I appreciate these updates because, as you say, I do not follow Twitter or the various other ways over finding out these things. Your channel is the only place I am able to get trusted and up-to-date information. I appreciate that you provide these updates outside of your normal content in a timely manner. Thank you :)🐕

Hope's CNS is a great example of a proper homage imo. i'm sure there are others, but i mentioned his cz it's the one i'm familiar with. spoke about how it's a homage, contacted the original artist, paid royalties, and even the artist big upped it and mentioned how they got their pay for their work. talking about how it's a homage after so long and only cz you got caught is not a homage. you're just trying to cover yourself. would've been better to just have kept quiet and try to privately reach out to the artist to at least try and work things out now, even if it's only cz you got caught, a least you'd be doing it now. it's never too late to do the right thing.

A pot alling the kettle black

They should change the name to: [NOT SO]"NEW JEANS"?!🙃

@kidslearning6659

13 күн бұрын

Maybe FADE JEANS. Bye Bye

it turns out that MHD itself copies others, while accusing Haib, now her interpretation, that this is a tribute to what she copied the Mexican group. MHD is greedy, a liar, I hope she will answer fairly. all her actions confirm that she planned to appropriate ADOR, did the public really believe her so easily

*sarcasm* : Who knew that New Jeans was never an authentic group??