Watch our Newegg investigation saga here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZJqiutWmiN3WmKw.html

@crylune

Жыл бұрын

Soon as I saw the video I was like "what did Newegg do this time?"

@vakhtangkechkhuashvili

Жыл бұрын

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@RetiredEE

Жыл бұрын

I bought a 3090 Ti. Hope it will run AOL.

@realabpc1883

Жыл бұрын

So, 32.4 FPS is displayed as "30 FPS", while 32.5 FPS becomes "35 FPS". Sure... makes perfect sense 8 Strangely, in many cases, the differences between cards they have HUGE stock levels of and the ones they have relatively few of has been adjusted to favor the ones they're trying to get rid of. Guess it's cheaper for them to create a bogus comparison chart to move overstock than to lower prices. Of course, a "GPU comparison site" run by the retailer of all the products on the site is a clear conflict of interest to begin with, but I guess that shows just how much Newegg cares about fostering well-informed consumers.

@MonkeyspankO

Жыл бұрын

feels like every sentence in this vidja needs to have an "allegedly" added 😂

If companies are having trouble getting rid of GPUs, I volunteer to take a few off of their hands, and I won't even charge them money to remove the e-waste.

@MikeTsBees

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry the government will bail them out

@oldtimergaming9514

Жыл бұрын

@[Twitch Streaming Channel] Q 🤣

@GAMIR_SFM

Жыл бұрын

I can help too 😆

@SquintyGears

Жыл бұрын

Is there a place to sign up for this responsible volunteering in our community?

@n0mad385

Жыл бұрын

I dont care what I get tbh, my 1650 could be upgraded

This was such a transparent attempt from the beginning to move old GPUs out of inventory. Had they not saddled people with unwanted products during their shuffles (including the “explodonator” Gigabyte PSUs) I’d be more inclined to buy one, but frankly they can stuff it.

@GamersNexus

Жыл бұрын

Good point on the unwanted products. They tried to get rid of unwanted inventory when GPUs were hot, now they're trying to get rid of unwanted GPUs!

@misterringer

Жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus Next they are going to buy up real estate and offer a free GPU with any home purchase :D

@vespasian606

Жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus I see a future where PSU's are extremely scarce and the only way to get one from Newegg is in a shuffle that makes you buy a 30 or 60 series GPU.

@samgoff5289

Жыл бұрын

This is an attempt to replace GN so they will stop being called out for all their bullshit 😂

@stevenspielberg9494

Жыл бұрын

@@misterringer free GT1030 DDr3 with home purchase. “It’s a GPU”

So let me get this right, they were stocking up on GPUs selling small bit at a time with high markups and now they have warehouses full of graphics cards nobody wants? GREAT LET THEM SUFFER!

@Ioganstone

Жыл бұрын

Let the hate flow through you child

@eng3d

Жыл бұрын

@@Ioganstone nobody likes yo be rip off, so count me in with the hate

@michael5654

Ай бұрын

@@eng3d I have a being ripped off kink

Seeing all these companies that were ripping customers off struggle with so much inventory now is so satisfying. Hilarious that Newegg are trying these dumb tactics to flog their inventory now the bubble has burst, they deserve everything they get for their disgusting tactics.

@drunkhusband6257

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like they are a company that tries to make profit.....how amazing...

@devrolo

Жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 It’s almost like there’s consequences for letting the profit incentive take too much priority over the customer and customers in a capitalist society speak with their money and choose not to support it and write their displeasure so other consumers are aware 🤔 you look like an idiot trying to be quipy about bad business practices. Trust me, Newegg doesn’t need your white knight defense.

@ericdoran4313

Жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 profit or scalp? I paid 2k for a 6900xt that's now 750$ they were cleaning up and now they shit the bed , they deserve it

@sullychow4123

Жыл бұрын

@Drunk Husband Don't worry the companies aren't here, they can't hurt you

@marcgw496

Жыл бұрын

@@ericdoran4313 2K? Jeez you could buy a high end prebuilt for that much I’m sure

Newegg’s response to getting caught ripping off customers? Double down and create a GPU marketing scam website. Thanks Steve.

@dylanherron3963

Жыл бұрын

Gotta get rid of all those GeForce RTX 3080 Ties

@scroopynooperz9051

Жыл бұрын

Back to you Steve!

@Mr.Morden

Жыл бұрын

Step 1) Legitimate company gets bought out by illegitimate company Step 2) Illegitimate company does illegitimate business things to make as much money as they can without regard for anything else Step 3) Customers stop, company gets sold again to someone else less experienced with step 2 This is pure synergy, thinking outside the box, and a pivot to a new normal paradigm by circling back.

@billyhatcher643

Жыл бұрын

they love to rip people off

@marvcyber815

Жыл бұрын

Look at the bright side, at least userbenchmark has a competitor now 👍👍👍 wait...

Newegg: wants to empty inventory also newegg: proceeds to still sell gpus over msrp

@stayblueee

Жыл бұрын

They are trying to yield a profit in a market where literally no one really wants to buy a GPU right now, especially with news of the next generation cards coming out in October.

@BRBMrSoul

Жыл бұрын

My fav part too with all this stuff xD Woooow what deals! XD

@OliverQueen1974

Жыл бұрын

Surprised that each of the purchase links doesn’t direct to a bundle of unwanted next to useless items that have to be bought together.

@a-jazz838

Жыл бұрын

@@stayblueee Really frustrating for someone like me who does want a gpu, but am still getting gouged in some last attempt as if people dont know the market changed. newegg-"hey instead of lowering prices to get rid of near obsolete stock, lets dump money into a new site that will try to justify us keeping our margins high."

@nicwelch

Жыл бұрын

@@stayblueee I’d say it’s pretty damn arrogant to assume you know the value of a product better than the company that manufactured it.

When I was growing up, Newegg had such a strong reputation. It felt dumb not to get components there. Sad to see how far they've fallen. They need leadership who understand the value of reputation, and understand that propaganda doesn't win you any respect when your market is full of technically-inclined people. Anyone who has taken a high-school statistics course has been given a speech on misleading graphs

@Hotobu

Жыл бұрын

Where's "the" place now? Amazon?

@TheJbhenry

Жыл бұрын

Sears traded a century of reputation amongst consumers and employees for a quick payday in the nineties, and now they barely exist. Craftsman used to be the most trusted and reliable midtier tool brand, and they used that reputation to sell all higher prices while slapping production costs by making crap products out of crap materials, and within five years they were a joke. Leaning on an earned reputation to blow up short term profits by cutting costs only benefits CEOs that have golden parachutes and can claim they increased profits by 400% in two quarters, leaving out that it resulted in the company going out of business. It's end game capitalism at it's finest.

@nickpz

Жыл бұрын

@@Hotobu Gamers Nexus did a video on Micro Center and they seem great. They have physical locations, which I've been to in the past and had positive experiences with. They have a website but it looks like a lot of it is in-store only. Amazon is pretty convenient and sometimes the best option but if I can give my money to someone other than Bezos I try

@Hotobu

Жыл бұрын

@@nickpz Microcenter isn't in my city

@buggerlugz6753

Жыл бұрын

Bit like Dell had with its reputation, Newegg went and did the same thing, totally destroyed their own good name.

I'm composing a letter to Newegg letting them know that I was literally about to purchase a GPU from them until I watched this video along with your previous investigation. I've told them that they are nothing short of a bunch of crooks who belong in a courtroom defending themselves over a variety of of charges. These criminals just keep getting away with it. Your videos should go mainstream and also be played in a big modal that flashes up every time anyone goes to their website(s). thanks for yet another entertaining expose.

@drunkhusband6257

Жыл бұрын

What exactly have they done that was even remotely illegal lol.......lay off the drugs man

@ronjones-6977

Жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 Have another drink.

@drunkhusband6257

Жыл бұрын

@@ronjones-6977 Ok boomer

@truereaper4572

Жыл бұрын

Buying from newegg is fine lmfao. Have fun losing out on the deals I guess

Newegg is really wanting a spot in the disappointment build for 2022

@OptimalMayhem

Жыл бұрын

They’ll be the sponsor for that video

@scarletspidernz

Жыл бұрын

At this point GN gonna be coming out with Disappointment Company 2022 as well

@Nareimooncatt

Жыл бұрын

@@OptimalMayhem nah, they'll be the vendor.

@simonnance

Жыл бұрын

They are giving Artesian a run for their money, but if GN did a "Worst Retailer" spot I'd bet on Katz' train wreck of a company.

GN has been on a roll the past couple of months. appreciate all you guys do!

@awepizza

Жыл бұрын

More like newegg is on a roll in the past months, a super bad one lmao

@LiLBitsDK

Жыл бұрын

@@awepizza rolling down a steep cliff is all the rolling they do

@michelvanbriemen3459

Жыл бұрын

The way I see it, those brands/companies are the ones rolling. Rolling waaaay down a big fat hill. Maybe down mount TechSinai but I'd hate to suggest Newegg is Moses

@crisnmaryfam7344

Жыл бұрын

Killing it for sure. A staple of KZread.

@88porpoise

Жыл бұрын

With how much GN seems to be benefitting from Newegg doing dumb things it might make one start seeing conspiracies. Expect the evidence is that GN has integrity.

I love the animations for highlighting things, you guys have come a long way.

20 blissful minutes of tearing NewEgg apart. This is gold.

@real_pedalpawn5575

Жыл бұрын

(Reach out) the name above To acknowledge a prize 🎉🎉

Amazing how Gamers Nexus put more work in investigating JustGPU than Newegg spent developing it..

@FuncleChuck

Жыл бұрын

No no, you misunderstood. JustGPU isn’t about accurate information, it’s about making sure people click through and buy. I’m sure they tested that part very thoroughly.

So strange that they've gone from my go-to place to buy hardware since the early-mid 2000s to someone I don't really trust and will attempt to avoid each time I need a computer part. Very unfortunate for the personal computer enthusiast industry. I've purchased literally every part for a PC for multiple personal builds over the last 15+ years. Now I'd be worried that I'd get a broken part and they'd blame me. That is a far cry from the service I'd used to get, such as a new PSU taking a dump after five days and them sending me a replacement with very few questions asked.

@Lishtenbird

Жыл бұрын

Something-something, you either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain.

@nanoflower1

Жыл бұрын

That's what often happens when companies change ownership. Sometimes it can lead to improvements but often it's a downgrade. In this case we know the service issues that have been reported and the forced bundling of products with GPUs. So this is just the latest step in downgrading the company.

@animejanai4657

Жыл бұрын

A chinese company bought out Newegg years ago and that's when the problems developed.

@Zyphera

Жыл бұрын

@@animejanai4657 aha! This makes perfect sens.

@AnalyticalReckoner

Жыл бұрын

Yep, no more newegg for me.

I love the knew style of videos, the humor is on point while not distracting from the video. Really appreciate this, you guys are invaluable to the industry at this point.

Wow, really love those "size" benchmark bar charts. Also thanks for spilling the beans on who does reviewers dirty so we know who to avoid. Is there a summary of these ASRock-like companies somewhere?

Honestly, I love the precise and accurate shots fired at shady corporations just as much as I enjoy the great reviews, nowadays.

@cat-.-

Жыл бұрын

Tbh i love these more

It's really funny that GN, specifically Steve, literally handed them the rope to pull themselves out of the hole Newegg dug themselves into with scummy tactics and still manages to find a way to hang themselves with it. It's like the guy who once robbed you barehanded trying to rob you wearing gloves now, but you still know who it is because you can still see their face. Way to go Newegg, now you've managed to lose even more trust from possible consumers and it's not like they had much to begin with.

@evacody1249

Жыл бұрын

Steve: here I will help you guys up. NE: starts to put rope around neck. Steve: 🤦‍♂️

@isaacanonymous1037

Жыл бұрын

Imagine they were dumping thousands into this probably a year ago when they started building this site. Just for Steve to put them on blast as they're trying to release this site.

@runningfox2002

Жыл бұрын

I feel like someone needs to do a meme with Newegg as the christmas santa robber from Friday After Next here.

@BeHappyTo

Жыл бұрын

i dont watch all gn videos, what did Steve propose?

@kopo7466

Жыл бұрын

@@BeHappyTo Essentially, to just stop being so inept while offering insights on how to achieve that and how best to win back consumer confidence. Basically Steve was trying to kind of help them save themselves so other companies don't have more of a monopoly on being a PC parts supplier. Pretty much took that advice and ran the other way with it.

Super happy to have such in depth reviewers hitting the stuff that I need to know to get into computers after a 10 year break. Always looking out for the next upload and thanks for the warnings so far.

Powerful you have become Steve. Shady actors and their tactics are trembling because of your journalism. You are a hero keeping them in check and together we can set new standards.

Imagine being called out and having a very visible meeting with GN and thinking the best course of action is to double down on lane tactics. Wild.

@flameshana9

Жыл бұрын

It works though, that's why. For the price of a few underpaid employees who make this site they gain many, many idiot buyers. 90% of people who buy GPUs aren't tech literate. Or even have an IQ in the triple digits.

@AcesnEights698

Жыл бұрын

They just can't help themselves. It's as if not scamming people causes them physical discomfort.

@Jrodsly

Жыл бұрын

That's just how they operate these days. Whoever owns them now clearly doesn't care about the previous reputation they once had, but rather they only care about making money with as little effort as possible. They live by that sword and they'll die by that sword.

@maklame3318

Жыл бұрын

corpos gonna corp

@meh3247

Жыл бұрын

WTF is "Lane tactics"?

The icing on the cake is how their approximated numbers make GPU's appear to have worse performance scaling. Genius method to sell high end GPUs!

@shane250

Жыл бұрын

LOL... I've noticed that too. It's like going to a Toyota dealership, and the salesman would be like: "Hey, don't buy this Lexus RX 350, that Corolla SE is better!"

@HB-622A

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they're hoping for repeat purchases once the 40-series releases, and they're downplaying performance so that when the new gen comes out, they can make the gap look bigger, and people who bought a card only to have it immediately "obsolete" might be tempted to re-upgrade? Not sure what else makes sense. Or maybe on the low end, crap cards like the 6400 aren't selling compared to the 6600.

@OliverQueen1974

Жыл бұрын

Prob find they want to shift much higher inventory of the lower end cards than high end, so tell non-savvy visitors that a $450 card will run games at same frame rate as a $2000, they will think they got one hell of a deal saving $1500 to get exact same performance.

@shanez1215

Жыл бұрын

You'd think if anything they'd make the high end look better since those cards are imminently getting the old yeller treatment while the mid and low end will stick around for longer.

@carl4889

Жыл бұрын

They probably have most excess inventory with some of the lower end cards like the RX6400 considering how bad some of them are. As expensive as the 3080/6800XT level cards are, they at least perform well, whereas the low end cards are literally worse than a used RX570.

Thank you guys for always showing us what is up with the shady doings of Newegg. You would think after shining some light on their problems, they would try to go with a more consumer friendly approach. Instead, they try to pass this website off as its own entity, while the teeny tiny text on the bottom of the web page is right there for everyone to not see.

this video is definitely better than previous videos because the video length is longer

Newegg: “we need to get rid of these before the next generations launches” Also Newegg: you want a 3070 TI? The best I can do is $750… but you get 4 free games that you’d probably would not buy normally

@CragScrambler

Жыл бұрын

Well....2 games and some dlc 😂🤡😉

@adrianafamilymember6427

Жыл бұрын

@@CragScrambler "doom enteral doom eternal and doom eternal definitely four separate games" - Paul Hardware news (forgot what episode but it included the one where Steve got age-gated).

@AaronAverett

Жыл бұрын

"Oh, and two of those games are actually DLC for the first one."

@HappyBeezerStudios

Жыл бұрын

The thing is, as soon as the next cards launch, and they will launch for a price, people will have no trouble buying the old stock.

@bricaaron3978

Жыл бұрын

*"...but you get 4 free games..."* You get 2 games and 2 expansions.

When it comes down to protecting PC enthusiasts and consumers and when compared to other outlets, GN is a 10-slot KZread channel running at 7000MHz that measures 1 meter long! (Note: These numbers are approximations.) Thanks again for more great work!

@OliverQueen1974

Жыл бұрын

But only runs games at 60fps on New Egg’s - sorry! just GPU- benchmarks

@Marrrrtin

Жыл бұрын

I'd say they run at over 9000 MHz 😉

I have the silent base 801. And brought the mesh panel of the newer case. So happy with my case! Runs even cooler now

Loved that BULSH... title at 15:39, editing is on point

Also, I can't help but point out how a bar chart for comparing 2 things is least useful when the bars start at the same point then spread apart. The point of comparisons is to see both tips of the bars side by side, not as far apart as possible. If you're trying to use a chart to visualize data then spreading the number values as far from eachother as will fit on the screen is the diametric opposite of that goal. It accomplishes data visualisation in literally the worst possible way imaginable. I can't even think up a sarcastic way of making a chart less useful than spreading values apart to compare them especially without grids, scales, or any context whatsoever. Even pie charts would be more useful graphic representations of comparisons in this case. Thank god we don't need to compare real data though, given the numbers were made up and rounded estimates based off of unrelated synthetic benchmark (singular, not plural) anyway lol. TLDR this should be illegal. How is consumer protection bureau not all over this? You can't just play dumb and pretend this is an honest mistake, they're intending to mislead consumers that a triple slot card is better than a dual slot card, as if you're paying for real estate. They're preying on consumers not knowing better when they're advertising themselves as informing consumers, then sending victims to their own retail site to make purchases based on the misinformation. This is categorical fraud, like wtf.

@riothero313

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you, the bars should have spread apart from each other vertically not horizontally.

@jasonriddell

Жыл бұрын

IMHO they are trying to "reproduce" street fighter" the game including the "choose your fighter" line and the bar charts are your "health meter"

@mparagames

Жыл бұрын

@@riothero313 what.

@mparagames

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonriddell makes no sense, but ok i guess

@Maleko48

Жыл бұрын

yes

Love seeing these companies squirm. They tried to rip us off for 2 years, let them take the hit they deserve

@RoboticEmotion

Жыл бұрын

They sold so many GPUs above MSRP for years. Surely, that surplus of funds can sustain them through this trying time. Right?

@killersberg1

Жыл бұрын

@@RoboticEmotion Yes, but Newegg is a public company. The rules of capitalism require that the profits rise every quarter or the company will be shunned. They will surely lose quite a bit of margin and they will likely have to sell at a loss eventually. They may have problems getting new investors when their profits go down and in a recession this can be devastating. They may loose most of the profits they made in the last years. But thats just a theory...

@shanez1215

Жыл бұрын

@@RoboticEmotion I believe it was the AIB's more than the retailers that did the scalping.

@z0mb1e564

Жыл бұрын

@@RoboticEmotion You forget, all that profit went to bonuses. Now the company needs more money to pay the C suite raises.

@prithvib8662

Жыл бұрын

@@killersberg1 that isn't a requirement of publicly traded companies at all lol. Also, you know what hurts your profits? Going out of business because you lose all your customers.

Thanks for covering this. ❤️

This is why I love Gamers Nexus. Steve and the gang make sure you know the real deal with stuff, and if it's trash info or dependable. Gonna look at buying more merch. This helps keep me up-to-date on tech I don't have time to read about anymore. Thanks GN.

I'm curious as to why Newegg has fallen so far from relative grace. It's amusing how scummy they've gotten.

@sylvo1057

Жыл бұрын

I'm 100% certain they started going downhill when they got acquired by that chinese company in 2016.

@hubertnnn

Жыл бұрын

@@sylvo1057 I just wanted to ask, if they had a management change. But if they are now owned by a company from the most scummy country in the world, then that would make sense.

@sylvo1057

Жыл бұрын

@@hubertnnn Based.

@Crenust

Жыл бұрын

I have been building my own computers for over 20 years and have always tried to avoid Newegg, mainly because of their shitty return policies and shipping costs. Looking at my shopping history, the only things I have bought from them in the last decade has been digital games and gift cards. Point is, I do not believe they have ever been an exemplary company.

@GeorgeMonet

Жыл бұрын

@@Crenust I never had a problem returning items to Newegg though. And they always paid for shipping. Granted I stopped buying from Newegg in 2016 when they were purchased by a Chinese company so I do not know what their current returns are like.

It's hilarious to me that Newegg being stuck with a ton of 30 series GPUs, created a whole ass website full of fake benchmarks instead of lowering prices. Really makes you think...

@zacharytaylor8523

Жыл бұрын

Could be that can't go any lower or risk losing money on sales. If that is the case then let them suffer.

@bardofhighrenown

Жыл бұрын

​@@zacharytaylor8523 I wouldn't be surprised if the current prices were selling them at cost. But new cards will come out, prices will continue to drop. I'm certainly not paying over 60% MSRP for a 2 year old card about to become last gen. I'll just keep waiting.

@andrewsnows

Жыл бұрын

Fuck all them!

@ValentineC137

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharytaylor8523 aslong as they’re above MSRP they deserve no sales

@hubertnnn

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharytaylor8523 But making a website, especially one like this is also expensive.

For such a website I'm not surprised they are calling 1440p resolution a "2K"

@GreenPartyHat

Жыл бұрын

Everyone I know says 2K

@TheSweMusicMan

Жыл бұрын

Which is incorrect, if you're talking about 1440p (2560x1440). 1080p (1920x1080) is a 2K resolution though, so there it would be correct.

Thank you so much for doing this. It is so helpful for knowledgeable sites, such as yours, to hold sellers and producers to account. Sadly there are going to be many people who fall for these predatory tactics. I'm disappointed in Newegg, but not surprised.

they aren't stuck with them... they just don't want to lose their margin on them. They could easily get rid of their stock if they introduced price reductions like retailers who have a surplus of product have been doing for centuries.

@seitenryu6844

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, just rip the bandaid off already. It'll sting a lot less than holding dead inventory when the new stuff comes out.

@limitisillusion7

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it'll be dead inventory. It'll sell after stock of the new stuff is gone and the prices drop. Why would they drop the prices before they relea as the next gen?

@mjkittredge

Жыл бұрын

they have done some aggressive price reductions on some of their products. But they should do more. As others have said, the longer those old cards sit there the less they'll be worth. Unless crypto makes a huge comeback and doesn't move to proof of stake

@christopherjames9843

Жыл бұрын

@@limitisillusion7 Maybe because nobody is buying them? Duh!

@erictyler3259

Жыл бұрын

@@mjkittredge I imagine it's only a matter of time before crypto comes back. So if I were in the market for a graphics card, I would buy soon...

As an Australian, it’s always funny seeing this kind of stuff happening overseas. Our consumer law watchdog (the ACCC) would absolutely SLAM DOWN on retailers doing this sort of stuff. Interestingly enough, one of our biggest retailers (PC Case Gear) actually just put links to Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed reviews/comparisons on the page for big or popular products to allow people to make up their own mind when they compare it to other products.

@chadmed

Жыл бұрын

how many times have msy and umart been pogged by the accc at this point? gotta be at least 4 each

@B3owulf

Жыл бұрын

why do you guys hate black people then?

@lw8882

Жыл бұрын

Pccasegear also refuse returns for unfit for purchase products and advertise as in stock products that haven't entered the country yet. Their communication is bad, they take months to warranty a single motherboard and their customer service is horrible and uninterested in helping the customer. Careful who you trust just because of them using GN videos in their product listings.

@intelinside5574

Жыл бұрын

@@chadmed I still fondly recall when MSY was forced to display "WE RIPPED PEOPLE OFF AND THE ACCC FOUND OUT" all over their website

@elitetripod4188

Жыл бұрын

PC Case Gear have recently refunded a faulty mobo I bought from them with no drama. Compared to dodgy retailers like PLE they are very good. They seem somewhat legit.

Without guys like you, I would have been tricked by those greedy companies many times. Thank you for what you are doing.

Nice work exposing this and educating people mate

the frustrating thing about the whole 1440p=2K thing is that its not only wrong (2K is 1080p, 1440p is 2.5K [assuming a ~16:9 aspect ratio]) but most people consider it to be a small enough detail as to think its not worth correcting

@nope6471

Жыл бұрын

Don't even get me started on how many "no, you're wrong!!!" I've gotten for trying to explain to people that 2k is 1080p.

@BRBMrSoul

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention HD, 4K etc are meaningless marketing terms for most part Ya fellow “resolution nerd” here too, it’s funny how few people understand what those numbers mean

@zblurth855

Жыл бұрын

I mean 1080p is 2 073 600 pixels. 1440p is 3 686 400 so a 77.77% increase, not small at all 2k is 2 211 840 pixel and so a increase from 1080p of 6.66%... So yeah not a small rounding error

@SimonBuchanNz

Жыл бұрын

Even 4k isn't really 4k: the term is from cinema packaging where the aspect ratio is different for every title, so they measure by fitting it in a 2:1 aspect box and measuring the width, because most cinema is larger than 2:1 and thus is limited by the width. So in short, 4k is supposed to be fitting a 4096x2048 box, not the 3840x2160 resolution that is actually the continuation of the computer/TV resolutions and nothing to do with cinema packaging.

@elksalmon84

Жыл бұрын

It's started by ether OPPO or OnePlus, I don't remember know exactly. And then picked up by many uneducated marketing managers, which are still hijacking 2K article on Wiki, reverting all edits.

From personally waiting a year in a EVGA wait list for my GPU, seeing people fight for overpriced aged GPUs and general chaos, to companies being unable to sell said GPUs. This world is a strange place.

@justinthematrix

Жыл бұрын

Same

@rojovision

Жыл бұрын

From my experience the EVGA waitlist was a scam in and of itself. They put me on the list, but then pretty much never made another GPU of the SKU I wanted again because it was a standard 3080 without a $300 cooler they could upcharge for.

@iwillnoteatzebugs

Жыл бұрын

i m evga list since 2020 LUL . evga europe that is

@jasonriddell

Жыл бұрын

@@rojovision same I wanted the 3080 "basic" right after launch and got an email last month stating the wait list is NOLONGER a thing as inventory is normalized and had links to then still overpriced 3080 FTWs and 3090 Ti's way on "sale"

@igotchuoncamera3012

Жыл бұрын

Everyone was saying just wait unless you had no gpu at all but people wanted to pay scalpers out of impatience which just perpetuated the problem

God I love Steve..honestly so little content actually appeals to my humor. Your " we're doing click bait wrong" bit gave me my first out loud laugh of the week...on friday

I'd love to see you do more testing with pre-built manufacturers' fps claims with their desktop like NZXT BLD

I legitimately laughed my ass off about slot number and card length being on the graph.

@JulianSildenLanglo

Жыл бұрын

I won't settle for anything less than a quad-sized slot length!

@blackghost1791

Жыл бұрын

It was the 1 extra slot that influenced my decision lol

@tywoods7234

Жыл бұрын

Just know that when we are both taking a leak in a public toilet, my graphics card is longer than yours

@user-qk1ul9pb4u

Жыл бұрын

To be honest I would like to see the card actual length on spec to make diy decisions, but still, getting it on graph is so much fun.

I love how Gamers Nexus has become the consumer watchdog for us. Keep it up man.

"We're doing click-bait wrong" - I literally spit out my drink on my monitor. 😂

Builders are so lucky to have the instant access to knowledge and information like you guys for example provide. One of my guys was Patrick Norton, and the show the Screensavers as well. There were of course others. The point is, people like yourselves are essential to the continued advancement of home computing, and of course Gaming. Thanks for forcing all involved in the process of making our parts and software to 'keep it real.'

@evacody1249

Жыл бұрын

And there are people won't name names that would like to put a stop to it so all reviews can be sun shine and roses. Because if you give a bad review of a pro8your hater now.

@simonbattle0001

Жыл бұрын

@@evacody1249 I hope any effort to make reviews or good advise a negative thing and or puntative is not allowed to flourish in any way. As content creators we out here are counting on you. Refuse to do it, unionize or whatever else it takes to remain honest and true to the work you do. You are all vital is my opinion on that.

I can tell Newegg really want to sell their GPU. I would never see this type of advertise during the shortage.

It's mind boggling how much effort these companies make to try obvious low quality scams over and over again, and no drama can stop them

@aliancemd

Жыл бұрын

Because even "low quality scams" work. Most people in this world are not GN viewers

@OliverQueen1974

Жыл бұрын

It’s because the sites are aimed at those who don’t know better & are more likely to buy the items New Egg, sorry, Just GPU want to shift fast. Why buy a RTX3080ti when according to them a RTX 3060 will run games at exact same frame rate?

@MarginalSC

Жыл бұрын

This is a direct result of their rep taking a bruising last time too. People don’t trust Newegg? Time for Joey jo jo schabadoo egg gpu site!

@jasonriddell

Жыл бұрын

NEW EGG is screwing themselves over also as they "show" most buyers will only need the lower tier VS "normal" sales tactics of up selling the HIGH tier for more profits

@aliancemd

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonriddell They are dumping stock before the 4000 series come out, so they are not "screwing themselves". You usually have more stock of the cheaper stuff

I really do love how much research and effort you guys put into all of your content! As a high volume purchaser for tech, this is alone the best channel for tech info. Plus, the hair is oh so luscious.

You guys are amazing

Remember when Newegg used to be the Knight in Shining Armor of the tech industry? If there was a patent troll being taken down, it was likely Newegg doing it. Now, as much as I dislike Amazon, I often look there for components. MicroCenter, please build a few dozen stores in the northeast.

@animejanai4657

Жыл бұрын

Being a white knight doesn't make money for the chinese investors that bought it in 2016.

@markh4750

Жыл бұрын

Newegg went downhill when Liaison bought them back in 2016. Before then, yes, they were my go to site for PC components. I've bought a few things here and there since then, but only when their price was materially better and/or I couldn't find it anywhere else.

@TexasCat99

Жыл бұрын

There's a Micro Center 15 mins away from me. I love the store. Great prices and very good staff. There's people working there, 15+ years.

@TexasCat99

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I used to buy from Newegg. Great user reviews were helpful. Then they started selling other stuff. So when I'm searching for a product, I was getting non computer parts in the search results. Add the 3rd party resellers... It became a mess. I've not been on the Newegg website on over 10 years. Besides Microcenter takes care of most of my needs (not all).

@Tree-House69

Жыл бұрын

I really hope Microcenter expands, there's such a need for them as things like this keep happening, having to choose between NewEgg and Amazon?? Horrendous.

It didn't take me long to realize I was no better off buying stuff from Newegg than I would be buying it from Ebay.

@Chironex_Fleckeri

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't go that far

@potatoes5829

Жыл бұрын

@@Chironex_Fleckeri yea. At least ebay has buyer protection

A strange phenomenon I've noticed at 5:36 is that Apex stays exactly at 140 fps no matter the resolution and the cpu selected. Same with Elden Ring but at 60 fps. There's others that didn't seem to change much at all as well.

@alanrcastro8580

Жыл бұрын

Elden Ring makes sense since it's locked to 60 fps... But then why include it in the first place?

Hey Steve, got a question - do you have any article that goes into how-to of testing your own build with step-by-step guide on what to install, what settings to choose and such, preferably in written form? I have somewhat old build with Ryzen 5 3600, GTX 1660 Super, 16 gigs of RAM and 650W PSU, and wanna see for myself what part should I upgrade next. I couldn't really find a comprehensive guide that explains how to setup the testing environment and enterpret results that you get. Maybe I'm even thermal bound and could even eek out some more frames just by changing fan settings or parts of cooling solution. If not, I think that would be a really great help for entry level enthusiasts such as myself

THANK YOU for calling out the "2K" crap. 2K IS NOT 1440p, it's 1080p! Nobody should be using "2K" anyway...

Serious question. Where would you buy parts online then? Would be nice if there was a micro center here in NC, but they are dragging their feet

This video legit saved me, I am new to building and I'm doing research preparing to do my first build and I already had a cart full at Newegg cuz I remembered their sterling reputation from when I was younger, sad to see they are just another Bethesda now smh, thank you for this cuz you truly saved my ass at the very least from wasting hundreds of dollars

I was one of Newegg's first customers back in 2001 and still have the four 80GB Maxtor PATA drives used in my first RAID5 array. My last order was back 2017 and I have no desire to order from them ever again. So sad to see Newegg as a shell (pun not intended) of their former self.

multi year warranty for AA batteries? i am speechless but this made my week. Thank you GN!

Since Newegg is pretty much already making up these benchmark numbers, I'm suprised they didn't show larger scaling to upsell their products.

i *really needed a new 2k display card, thanks for this review!

Userbenchmark, GPUboss and JustGPU, the top misleading websites of benchmarking! Good job GN. Time to expose more bad practices. Newegg could give space for others to screw over tho lmao.

@hubertnnn

Жыл бұрын

I am curious, isn't there a false advertising law in US that could shut all those down?

@awepizza

Жыл бұрын

@@hubertnnn they are super niche websites

@nicwelch

Жыл бұрын

@@hubertnnn There are. Technically you aren’t allowed to lie in order to sell a product.

@mruczyslaw50

Жыл бұрын

Userbenchmark is good only to check if your PC is performing as expected because you can compare your CPU/GPU/HDD/SSD performance to other users that benchmarked the same components, it isn't perfect as other people may test parts that are overclocked or benchmark them while doing something in background making the average score go up and down a little bit, but it is simple and relatively fast test I like to do on PCs. However, yes, for comparing between multiple CPU or GPU models it truly is misleading as many times it does not represent true difference in performance. Intel CPUs usually have higher average score that AMD counterparts even though they perform similarly in gaming or productivity. Different GPU architecture have weird average scores too, RX 6600 have a score of 77.7% while RTX 2060 have 88.5%, which doesn't make any sense when in gaming RX 6600 performance is closer to RTX 3060, definitely higher than a 2060.

@shanez1215

Жыл бұрын

Oh man I'd kill for a GN takedown of Userbenchmark - Certified AMD Neanderthal

I thought Newegg learned its lesson. I guess not. My god what does it take for a company to get its head out of its ass? Keep up the good work Steve.

@LiLBitsDK

Жыл бұрын

it takes a bankrupcy for them to realise they messed up... like some streamscammer drawing new winner ruining the whole company in the faster ever shitshow down the drain tragedy for all the employees

@jtowensbyiii6018

Жыл бұрын

Money, only money does

@animejanai4657

Жыл бұрын

@Jake Jones , it's the shameless principles Chinese company that owns Newegg.

30 series continues to be disastrous 2 years later

newegg reminded me of a quote from the dark knight: you either die a hero or you live long enough to see your self a villain

At this point Steve is just like that one fish from the Spongebob meme: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?"

Steve: how scummy could a website get? Newegg: back to you Steve.

The one that immediately stood out to me was "Apex Legends" which remains pegged at @140fps no matter what cpu/gpu config you throw at it and no matter what resolution. That was the moment I knew the whole thing was sus. Thank you for making this vid and exposing yet more corporate fckery.

@drunkhusband6257

Жыл бұрын

Apex isn't gonna get 140fps with any cpu/gpu combo at higher resolutions....the hell are you talking about

@MrLukhut1

Жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 he isnt saying it does.. Hes pointing out that one of the most popular games out right now happens to "run great" according to newegg on all the gpus theyre selling, which is very clearly not the case

I wonder if their benchmark relative performance numbers line up with their quantity in stock of the various cards

Oh Newegg, you just keep falling down that flight of stairs, don't you?

@digizilla164

Жыл бұрын

They keep falling down the never ending stairs from Mario 64.

Benchmark: A simulation of performance for X product(s). New Egg: A simulation of a simulation of performance for boosting our margins. Back to you Steve.

@adrianafamilymember6427

Жыл бұрын

NEW NEW EGG: how much (inhales) money (inhales) do u got? I have a bench warmer to see ee-f comparable "PERFORMANCE" ANY GAMER would want.

Where can I get that GN test pattern in a hi-res PNG file please and thanks.

Thank you GN for all your hard work. 💐

@real_pedalpawn5575

Жыл бұрын

(Reach out) the name above To acknowledge a prize 🎉.

Newegg, you were already in hot water and you reached out of the pot and turned the burner UP. WTF!

18:20 You just KNOW Steve had UserBenchmark in mind when saying that

@andersjjensen

Жыл бұрын

The one who shall not be named... but often shamed! :P

Not long ago, you made some very interesting Videos about Newegg and now they decided to make sure to take Shadyness to the next Level KEKW

0:36 Petition for GN to include MAX GPU LENGTH in their future benchmark suite! It's a vital performance metric!

Unfortunately, I do know techs who actually use the term 2k to refer to 1440p. I really wish I could dissuade them, but they're stuck in their ways.

I cant wait to see what the prices will be in a few months! It's going to be great to see all the companies that have been inflating MSRP to get bitten by the price drops.

@shane250

Жыл бұрын

Unless crypto skyrocket again.

@JohnWick-9050

Жыл бұрын

@@shane250 crypto is dead for good though

@johnbuscher

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnWick-9050 Proof?

@KarlRosner

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnWick-9050 I think the scams and scandals surrounding crypto have definitely soured people on the market. Enough people have lost money often enough that it doesn't look like a good investment any more. It may rebound with new technology or with government backing but I don't think we'll see a return to what it was. Furthemore the crack downs in china on crypto farming and governments movement to more digital currencies have also put pressure on the market.

@shane250

Жыл бұрын

@@Avendesora I've been hearing that for years now. I sure hope you're right.

I just came across this website earlier today and now found your video about it. The prices of the GPU’s are good and im finding lower prices on their “justgpu” website compared to the normal Newegg website for some reason.

Maybe they got that guy from The Verge to do benchmarks for them. Seems a likely candidate to use card length and slot width as actual benchmark metrics.

Newegg scamming again? No way! Never would have expected something from such a reputable company! They would certainly never mislead anyone about products they are selling!

@skywalker1991

Жыл бұрын

Newegg is owned by Chinese , so reputable is not a word to associated with them . sorry they never have been reputable ever , I been let down many times by them , every monitor I bought from them failed after 30 days , they refuse to refund even tho it took 3 weeks to ship , I only had for 1 week , total scam Chinese company. Avoid .

@drunkhusband6257

Жыл бұрын

@@skywalker1991 Not owned by Chinese, it was a merger, huge difference.

"Dual slot... that means" **Taps Head** "...two" Top Tier journalism. NewEgg just keeps giving us better content

GN..Valuable insight as always.

You guys are doing unbiased journalism, which actually has an impact. Your channel is one of the few pure gems on youtube.

I have some friends that were excited that video card prices are coming down but now I've got to warn them about this bullshit before buying. Thank you for at least trying to honestly inform folks. We appreciate your always excellent service to try to help the community. o7

This would be alright if the data was correct, but this is downright slimy. Would this theoretically count as false advertising?

@stevenjohnson1692

Жыл бұрын

That little disclaimer of the numbers being an approximation makes it so its not which is total BS. Everything serves these huge companies that are in every politicians pocket.

@mwborger7

Жыл бұрын

It should, but unfortunately their disclaimer about the benchmarks being estimations probably frees them of any legal recourse.

@mattBLACKpunk

Жыл бұрын

@@mwborger7 yeah youre probably right, i wish you couldnt pull numbers out of your ass and just add a little disclaimer which males it okay

@flameshana9

Жыл бұрын

@@mwborger7 Imagine laws being so flimsy that as long as you say "estimation" you're free to estimate it as loosely as you please. I bet the next thing they'll try and get away with is "estimating" the charge to your credit card.

@Disnamesucksass

Жыл бұрын

@@mwborger7 this toyota corolla has 500hp* at the wheels *power figure is an estimate Yeah, still false advertising. Laziness is the simplest, best case scenario and does not excuse misleading customers. If you cant take the effort to produce accurate information, you should STFU when marketing or selling your product imo

Thanks for the heads up!

@real_pedalpawn5575

Жыл бұрын

(Reach out) the name above To acknowledge a prize 🎉.

I am a simple PC user who needs your expertise may be one or two times in a year or two ...BUT every time they proved to be so valuable and helped me a lot. SO I am liking everyone one of your videos and sharing them in my capacity when even most of them are so " Klingon"to me thinking may be usefull to someone I know.

i bought a 6900xt from them that never arrived. i complained, and next thing you know they found the package and it was on it's way back to newegg.

@johnnyboogalo4897

Жыл бұрын

I did same with ssd had to phone them few times until they sent it.Crap customer service too

I think the "userbench" category "emotional value" is more useful than this website

Editor's nailing it. The formula XD.

Hey bro, great vid. Jut suggesting that you should do a review of the maingear R1 | RTX 3060 Ti.

I'm a simple man. I see a GN investigation, I hit like, then comment for the algorithm.

@Teatime4Tom

Жыл бұрын

[insert witty reply here]

Userbenchmark 2: Electric Bungaloo

And YT started this video with, you guessed it, a JustGPU advertisement.

Great video. I am curious as to how NewEgg thought this would be "Useful" is beyond me. What else can NewEgg do to make themself's look worse