Intel's Snake Oil & Completely Insane Anti-AMD Marketing

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Intel released a series of slides in a presentation attacking AMD -- and bizarrely, it was an actually publicly available presentation. The bitter, out-of-character attack reeks of the glue era of Intel. We're not sure why the company is talking about "snake oil," showing used car salesmen, and contradicting its position of "latest is best" and "latest doesn't matter" in the same deck, but it is. We were in San Francisco when this deck dropped, so we made the most of our time and wandered the streets while making a scene ranting about Intel.
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus6 ай бұрын

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  • @MikehMike01

    @MikehMike01

    6 ай бұрын

    I bought an AMD video card… it was such a miserable experience that I’m never buying anything from AMD again

  • @polie67

    @polie67

    6 ай бұрын

    Now get to work on year end case review with overall best case before I install my new pc in an old PBR cardboard box. Ps I love you like a fat kid with a funnle cake... with longing and urgency.

  • @mapsofbeing5937

    @mapsofbeing5937

    6 ай бұрын

    throwing stones from a 14th gen house

  • @Skobeloff...

    @Skobeloff...

    6 ай бұрын

    @@MikehMike01I bought an AMD video card... not sure what your issue is.

  • @chainq68k

    @chainq68k

    6 ай бұрын

    @@MikehMike01 Good thing for Intel then you never tried to buy a graphics card from them yet! :)

  • @crowjax8855
    @crowjax88556 ай бұрын

    You know whats funny? They explain AMD's naming scheme but they dont explain their own naming scheme.

  • @GamersNexus

    @GamersNexus

    6 ай бұрын

    Extremely on point

  • @gikigill788

    @gikigill788

    6 ай бұрын

    Nailed it.

  • @backlogbuddies

    @backlogbuddies

    6 ай бұрын

    As someone who has an Intel cpu: I don't actually understand any "scheme" AMD does. It honestly seems like their stuff is named accordingly, even if some CPUs basically are marginal step ups. It's at least really clear to understand, as someone without an AMD cpu. However modern intel is confusing as hell. I just use a lot of legacy software and single core software. I'm also still rocking Intel 9th gen

  • @DJdoppIer

    @DJdoppIer

    6 ай бұрын

    And Intel's naming is about to get even more confusing. smh.

  • @bobby0081

    @bobby0081

    6 ай бұрын

    Their new naming scheme is worse than the old one.

  • @hMint
    @hMint6 ай бұрын

    Probably hired a previous user benchmark employee as their head of marketing for this campaign

  • @auturgicflosculator2183

    @auturgicflosculator2183

    6 ай бұрын

    🤣

  • @pentiumdeusex-machina4645

    @pentiumdeusex-machina4645

    6 ай бұрын

    You mean that site wasn't funded by them and Nvidia to begin with?

  • @9c27canyonzhong2

    @9c27canyonzhong2

    6 ай бұрын

    average ubm actions

  • @ArmySatcomGuy

    @ArmySatcomGuy

    6 ай бұрын

    Nicely played good sir

  • @DivusMagus

    @DivusMagus

    6 ай бұрын

    My thought exactly.

  • @ShadowTheHellJumper
    @ShadowTheHellJumper6 ай бұрын

    Seeing a multi billion dollar company be this insecure about their own products gives me the confidence to speak to my major crush

  • @DeiLux

    @DeiLux

    6 ай бұрын

    You got this bro.

  • @YAUUN

    @YAUUN

    6 ай бұрын

    Go for it!

  • @fibrahimi

    @fibrahimi

    6 ай бұрын

    Just major crush? What about junior crush? * fbi agents watching this conversation * 🤔🤨

  • @theodentherenewed4785

    @theodentherenewed4785

    6 ай бұрын

    Just tell us how it went.

  • @tablettablete186

    @tablettablete186

    6 ай бұрын

    "The worst that shr can say is no" Edit: good luck either way

  • @user-py8cl8hy5e
    @user-py8cl8hy5e6 ай бұрын

    When AMD gives you one of those marketing engagement surveys asking where you heard about their product, Intel should be on the list of options

  • @ReptilezDzn

    @ReptilezDzn

    3 ай бұрын

    thats just good publicity, but as a fact intel systems do get steadier latencies with overclocking, for a top end system for someone that cares about steady framrates intel is still the option for them. but a answer to which side you should "be" on is totally depending on the user

  • @wews2047
    @wews20476 ай бұрын

    Intel: latest doesn't always mean better performance. Ryzen 7 5800x3d: *Agree*

  • @eliasroflchopper3006

    @eliasroflchopper3006

    6 ай бұрын

    The irony is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

  • @erikkarjala

    @erikkarjala

    6 ай бұрын

    Ryzen 9 59X0x3d please....

  • @erkinalp

    @erkinalp

    6 ай бұрын

    @@erikkarjala5990X3D but on AM4 pls

  • @HyperScorpio8688

    @HyperScorpio8688

    6 ай бұрын

    7800X3D laughing behind 5800X3D-chan: *Cute*

  • @Izanagi-Arsene

    @Izanagi-Arsene

    6 ай бұрын

    Ryzen 9 7900x3d : Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.

  • @MazeFrame
    @MazeFrame6 ай бұрын

    Imagine having such a good marketing department, that your marketing department is doing marketing for your competitor too.

  • @nowenbeadle7643

    @nowenbeadle7643

    6 ай бұрын

    lol 🤣🤣🤣 Sounds like the marketing department needs a raise!

  • @erkinalp

    @erkinalp

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nowenbeadle7643 yeah, for working *twice*

  • @argiebarge7955

    @argiebarge7955

    6 ай бұрын

    Its like their marketing was done by my angry edge lord nephew.

  • @AronHallan

    @AronHallan

    6 ай бұрын

    AMD during Bulldozer era now Intel is doing the same and it's incredibly sad.

  • @Tuckerslam

    @Tuckerslam

    6 ай бұрын

    Their marketing boss literally came from AMD. I'm not joking.

  • @Luckyluckyluc
    @Luckyluckyluc6 ай бұрын

    It's so laughable when a company resorts to something like this rather than just releasing better products/lowering their prices 😹

  • @inkbunnybunny

    @inkbunnybunny

    6 ай бұрын

    it's almost like they are shitty.

  • @darksidecookies2145

    @darksidecookies2145

    6 ай бұрын

    Just like in court, if you can't pound the facts (prove your case) then instead pound the table (yell and scream about unfairness and other invented absurdities)

  • @lesassassin

    @lesassassin

    6 ай бұрын

    They did this in the P4 days too especially when the first AMD64s dropped into market (and verified they obliterated the P4, Xeons, etc). The opteron (for example) was so hated by Intel they saturated the market with BS claims of them overheating, etc, and you couldn't leave them without AC cooling. No one leaves servers un-cooled by AC (central, or otherwise) no matter the hardware. They didn't run much hotter than Xeons (the Opteron), and were perfectly happy at 70ish F (ambient). Every watt was better spent on the AMD64 and not only could AMD prove it, every test anyone threw at it did as well. It should have made Intel #2 (seriously it was that big of a deal). Sure Intel implemented x64, but it wasn't as good until they figured out AMD just "64bit-titized" the Athlon (well... sort of). P3s were good, and they were again: Core2 (this time we figured out how to make them go vroooooooooom x64). AMDs answer was bad ('dozers), and here we are: core 9 (23u23829837293723ure23hf 2u3hrfh23 fuh32iur823 93293ru8hf KV-KKKKKKK-N-K-PEWPEWLVL7). I think I lost my point, but I agree!

  • @noliebetweenus

    @noliebetweenus

    5 ай бұрын

    a low priced good product is already a better product, they're not really 2 different things

  • @graxxor
    @graxxor6 ай бұрын

    I just love the Monty Pythonesque video edit. The way that this entire presentation has no visual continuity. Popping out from behind things, suddenly in your car. Suddenly in a field and back on foot. Walking towards the camera and in a later shot you’re further away from the camera. And now for something completely different…

  • @Roger-ic7sf

    @Roger-ic7sf

    6 ай бұрын

    Still better than an Intel presentation that contradicts itself multiple times.

  • @MrYoyo200

    @MrYoyo200

    12 күн бұрын

    Makes more sense than Intel's marketing...

  • @EthicalAllele
    @EthicalAllele6 ай бұрын

    I'm happy for the userbenchmark guy. Looks like he finally landed his dream job :)

  • @juhopeltonen1531

    @juhopeltonen1531

    6 ай бұрын

    Truly a gold level comment

  • @Insertionable

    @Insertionable

    6 ай бұрын

    Exactly thinking of this lmao 😆

  • @futuza

    @futuza

    6 ай бұрын

    And people say that shilling for companies never pays off...

  • @AdrianOkay

    @AdrianOkay

    6 ай бұрын

    Funny enough the userbenchmark guy didn't write a review for the 14900k, meaning that not even him has the guts to keep justifying intel products

  • @Tzofeh

    @Tzofeh

    6 ай бұрын

    yeh, first thing that came to my mind, that sht really sounded like the guy on that site lmao

  • @kekistanifreedomfighter4197
    @kekistanifreedomfighter41976 ай бұрын

    Never underestimate a marketing team's ability to try ruining any good will that engineering and developer teams build up with customers & press.

  • @berenvalari

    @berenvalari

    6 ай бұрын

    Definitely the marketing department going off the rails here. I highly doubt any senior engineers or even the CEO would sign off on this ridiculous presentation.

  • @RafitoOoO

    @RafitoOoO

    6 ай бұрын

    and it's not like the engineers have that much goodwill after 14th gen anyway lol.

  • @Minecraftrok999

    @Minecraftrok999

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@berenvalaria CEO will never sign off on presentations like this, they simply do not care and do not want to see them anyways. They have different things to do

  • @ruukinen

    @ruukinen

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Minecraftrok999 For a company of the size of Intel, no. But that's a pretty strong generalization, the main job of a CEO in a startup for example is to create hype slides like this and go around getting investors. Maybe not slides like this.

  • @RedEyedDRAG00N

    @RedEyedDRAG00N

    6 ай бұрын

    I will never buy intel again. Not since 2017

  • @bobchipman4473
    @bobchipman44736 ай бұрын

    I have to assume some marketing director completely lost their marbles (and presumably now their job) and pushed this through before anyone could stop them.

  • @jbsthegamer
    @jbsthegamer6 ай бұрын

    What's worse is that some people are falling for this marketing currently and are 100% oblivious to it

  • @jackalclone1
    @jackalclone16 ай бұрын

    As both a software engineer and a gamer, I love that they think an i3 is adequate for coding tasks, while an i9 is needed for esports. So insane.

  • @volvot6rdesignawd702

    @volvot6rdesignawd702

    6 ай бұрын

    here at intel we tell the truth i3 for coding i9 for esports !!

  • @JordanSparkes

    @JordanSparkes

    6 ай бұрын

    lol, compiling any non-trivial C[++] project on an i3 doesn't sound fun, not to mention an i3 won't exactly come with 32 GB of RAM :D

  • @ivancillo8797

    @ivancillo8797

    6 ай бұрын

    I mean, I got my engineering degree in Computational Technology (a bit of software development, robotics, networks) with an Intel Pentium of god knows what gen and 16 GB of RAM. Top of my class but boy, did that poor thing suffered with Android Studio

  • @ivancillo8797

    @ivancillo8797

    6 ай бұрын

    Funny enough at work we use a laptop with an AMD CPU (Ryzen 5 4600H) and I've seen more and more laptops that use AMD for their components. This was my first experience with the brand and now my first PC Build next to me uses a Ryzen 9 7900X

  • @esotericjahanism5251

    @esotericjahanism5251

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ivancillo8797 Ryzen has been killing it in the Builders market, the fact that they keep the same socket for more generations of CPUs than Intel alone makes it worth it to a builder, because a cheap drop in upgrade is only going to require you buying a single component and often times a new one, if you have an older intel cpu and you want to upgrade you are likely going to have to buy at least a motherboard as well or settle for hunting down a used i7 or i9 that is often going to come at a dumb premium because it was a flagship cpu in it's time. If you built a Ryzen 7000 today youll likely have 4 generations of CPU upgrades to choose from in the future. And today even for budget builders if you picked up a Ryzen 1700x or something you could upgrade to a 5800x3d or similar for a reasonable price and a bios update. The performance is just the iceing on the cake.

  • @nebufabu
    @nebufabu6 ай бұрын

    I'm still not convinced this deck isn't a mass hallucination. If anyone but Intel did that, they'd spend next 5 years apologizing and hoping they're not sued...

  • @scimbrelo

    @scimbrelo

    6 ай бұрын

    Legit it doesn’t feel real, and I feel stupid for having purchased their products in the past now lmao

  • @CalculatedRiskAK

    @CalculatedRiskAK

    6 ай бұрын

    Honestly, all this does is advertise AMD it seems, and it even explains how the mobile SKUs are named... for their competitor! I won't be surprised if Dr. Su looks at this (the slide deck) and has a laugh.

  • @scimbrelo

    @scimbrelo

    6 ай бұрын

    @@CalculatedRiskAK amd just reissues the same slide deck and rolls the dice

  • @Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters

    @Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters

    6 ай бұрын

    @@scimbrelo With the background painted red

  • @magnomliman8114

    @magnomliman8114

    6 ай бұрын

    @@scimbrelo????

  • @lilgohan
    @lilgohan6 ай бұрын

    this is the best 5800X3D ad I've seen yet

  • @Hawkins-1985
    @Hawkins-19856 ай бұрын

    Let's talk about "Intel 7". The most ludicrous snake oil thing I've seen in tech in recent years. Intel renaming their 10nm manufacturing process, that made it sound as if they had the same 7nm transistor gate length as competing AMD CPUs. Intel has no room to talk about questionable marketing.

  • @miriamkapeller6754
    @miriamkapeller67546 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised you didn't talk about their criticism of "not all cores may have the same performance" when they were literally the ones that introduced this into the x86 space, selling 2 performance cores and 8 efficiency cores as "10 cores". The sheer gall of that left me speechless.

  • @SpartanArmy117

    @SpartanArmy117

    6 ай бұрын

    I actually think their architecture is pretty clever but yeah who thought that was a good marketing point. Your entire product line is based on the benefits of unequal cores haha.

  • @wretlaw1203

    @wretlaw1203

    6 ай бұрын

    ive seen older amd parts marketted as core count = cpu cores + gpu cores for cpus with on board graphics

  • @ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432

    @ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432

    6 ай бұрын

    I have one such cpu on my laptop and it's surprisingly performant.

  • @infernaldaedra

    @infernaldaedra

    6 ай бұрын

    Or that they were the ones that called AMD out for using "gluing together" CPUs which they immediately copied in their next generation cpus

  • @Daeyae

    @Daeyae

    6 ай бұрын

    The efficiency cores on my 13700k are still better than the cores on my old Ryzen, it's not like they are weak or anything they are pretty bulky for how small they are. Sure its not a 16 core as in the 7950x would beat it, but it's closer in price to the 7900x which is a 12 core, which it beats by a tad which is fine for them both being 24 thread, apart from cp2077 seems to brick itself if you have hyperthreading enabled or don't set the affinity

  • @gameurai5701
    @gameurai57016 ай бұрын

    Congrats to Userbenchmark for finally making his dream come true and land his dream job as Intel's official head of the marketing department.

  • @HankBaxter

    @HankBaxter

    6 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @apolloeosphoros4345

    @apolloeosphoros4345

    6 ай бұрын

    lmao thats exactly what it sounds like

  • @gmonkman

    @gmonkman

    6 ай бұрын

    lol

  • @crochebotamrelapute8816

    @crochebotamrelapute8816

    6 ай бұрын

    How dare you..?! 🤣

  • @SpudRusset
    @SpudRusset5 ай бұрын

    They are marketing solely for that one guy at userbenchmark

  • @ETophales
    @ETophales6 ай бұрын

    Got to say that this is the video I watched more than any other, and although it's no longer the latest, it's still the best. Great delivery, editing and nice scenery shots.

  • @MickBenjamins
    @MickBenjamins6 ай бұрын

    For a document like this to go out, it has to go through multiple stages of approval… that’s nuts to think about

  • @iatwiatw

    @iatwiatw

    6 ай бұрын

    Not only that, someone from leadership most probably insisted on putting in/keeping some of the dumbest points in that deck.

  • @123avneesh

    @123avneesh

    6 ай бұрын

    Now I want to see what didn't make the cut. It's such a missed opportunity.

  • @SadeN_0

    @SadeN_0

    6 ай бұрын

    all it really takes is one unhinged manager doing some skunkworks with a graphics person

  • @contris1

    @contris1

    6 ай бұрын

    shows how desperate they are in intel

  • @Skelath

    @Skelath

    6 ай бұрын

    And here I am with a 14900KF and ASUS 4090, with an ASUS mobo, get a 850watt PSU they said, it's is more than enough they say. ASUS 4090 hitting 500watt on stock boost, 14900KF hitting 250watt on stock bo-- ahem, updated BIOS on ASUS mobo enabling MCE on default removing limitations, causing the CPU to hit 350watts and throttle at 100 degrees. 500+350, good thing I got a 1000watt PSU huh. Should have gotten an AMD for stable temps cause the 14900KF even with MCE disabled on a 360mm AIO Rad spikes up to 60-70 degrees multiple times a minute while the system is idle.

  • @jcat96
    @jcat966 ай бұрын

    When Steve is on-location, you know it's gonna be good.

  • @tomunterwegs1206

    @tomunterwegs1206

    6 ай бұрын

    Or bad ... From intels point of view.😂

  • @aquapendulum

    @aquapendulum

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Steve!

  • @ilmstreams

    @ilmstreams

    6 ай бұрын

    Did someone say ARTESIAN BUILDS? Lol

  • @HCGonzalezJr87

    @HCGonzalezJr87

    6 ай бұрын

    Steve was on ALL the locations.

  • @alaeriia01

    @alaeriia01

    6 ай бұрын

    Now he needs to go back to Microcenter and film himself buying a computer for a fan again.

  • @stevehook7012
    @stevehook70126 ай бұрын

    "As students progress, their activities place increasing demands on their computers" and in the previous slide they said kids should have i3 and i5... if that statement is true you should be slapping an i9 into every kids device so that they won't have to upgrade their chips every few years, and "the latest isn't the best" so I guess an i9 today will still be great in 10 years. It's the most anti-marketing I've ever seen.

  • @Free2PlayLessPays
    @Free2PlayLessPays6 ай бұрын

    when intel pushes "future of education depends on the latest technology" like a kid, who wants a new computer, but the parents say "only for studying"

  • @tghidsgn
    @tghidsgn6 ай бұрын

    This is pretty rich coming from the company that brought us 14nm++++++++ year after year.

  • @samuelrodgers2742

    @samuelrodgers2742

    6 ай бұрын

    And Intel also rebranded their 10nm Enhanced SuperFin node as ‘Intel 7’ and their 7nm node as ‘Intel 4’ in order to seem more competitive with TSMC.

  • @tghidsgn

    @tghidsgn

    6 ай бұрын

    @@samuelrodgers2742 That's because smaller number better, unless it's not then bigger number better, unless it's dates then latest number better, unless it's a number from AMD in which case it's always worse.

  • @esotericjahanism5251

    @esotericjahanism5251

    6 ай бұрын

    Ah the intel Quad-Core dark ages

  • @aquapendulum

    @aquapendulum

    6 ай бұрын

    14nm# (programming joke)

  • @lharsay

    @lharsay

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@samuelrodgers2742If you check out laptop tests the i7 1260P was actually comparable to the Ryzen 7 6800H (6nm) at the same power usage and the transistor density of that node also surpassed Samsung 8nm so they were kinda right at renaming it.

  • @sandorbence2067
    @sandorbence20676 ай бұрын

    After having all the factory tours and discussion videos with all those engineers, now we need a series where you visit big companies and talk to the marketing team.

  • @trued2010

    @trued2010

    6 ай бұрын

    Nah. Then people would say GN is biased. Even if GN didn't get paid in any way. Gn is independent and we want them independent.

  • @CptJistuce

    @CptJistuce

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@trued2010People say GN is biased anyways. Pretty much any review of an Intel, AMD, or nVidia part sees them accused of being paid shills for the product reviewed as well as paid shills for that product's competition.

  • @masterluckyluke

    @masterluckyluke

    6 ай бұрын

    He tried it once with Newegg, was an interesting video.^^

  • @Noe2iq

    @Noe2iq

    6 ай бұрын

    No, we don’t. Marketers aren’t people. Why would you think that any sincere and relevant question would yield a response more coherent than a Twin Peaks fever dream?

  • @Jackson-bh1jw

    @Jackson-bh1jw

    6 ай бұрын

    Intel: but... but..... We make cpus for eVeRYonE, PlAYErs DoeSNT MattER players: WE ARE EVERYONE

  • @beetheimmortal
    @beetheimmortal5 ай бұрын

    Hey Intel, student here. The most hardware-demanding job I had to do on my (otherwise several thousands of dollars worth) computer was a literal excel spreadsheet with calculations. No, I do not need an i9 for that, nor do I need it for any other Uni activity.

  • @weeblbob233
    @weeblbob2336 ай бұрын

    was this your Linus walking down the street in Asia Intel homage? Your smiles keep throwing me off this being serious. I loved it. Keep on keep on.

  • @th3h0tpegla35
    @th3h0tpegla356 ай бұрын

    This sounds like someone trained AI on UserBenchmark "reviews" and prompted it to make a marketing campaign.

  • @tobytoxd

    @tobytoxd

    6 ай бұрын

    LOL 💯

  • @grumpycat5991

    @grumpycat5991

    6 ай бұрын

    This

  • @paxdriver

    @paxdriver

    6 ай бұрын

    ... with inference for that AI model run on a threadripper pro, of course. Because performance is important for us 30+ year olds who have skills and education needs that grow our compute needs lol

  • @tripplejaz
    @tripplejaz6 ай бұрын

    This entire presentation has "graphic design is my passion" energy.

  • @beayn

    @beayn

    6 ай бұрын

    That's exactly what I was thinking. This was written by someone with very loose knowledge of the products. Nobody arranges CPU classes by age group? Wait, maybe I can use that one slide as a way to steer people away from buying Celerons at my shop. "Look, these are for 5yo kids, what you need is an i9 for teenagers."

  • @reginaldoestremera3007

    @reginaldoestremera3007

    6 ай бұрын

    I know right?! Im learning a lot from this and taking notes.

  • @pirtatejoe

    @pirtatejoe

    6 ай бұрын

    Buzzword buzzword, meaningless statement, buzzword, graphic, chart chart, buzzword, picture of someone smiling using their computer, buzzword buzzword. Do not question us, buzzword graphic chart.

  • @DeltaSierra426

    @DeltaSierra426

    6 ай бұрын

    Almost has intern written all over it. I honestly can't even assume that Intel as a whole is this bitter, just this person or people involved. But I could be wrong.

  • @charlesballiet7074

    @charlesballiet7074

    6 ай бұрын

    the new inclusion and diversity hires im shure@@DeltaSierra426

  • @CYWNightmare
    @CYWNightmare6 ай бұрын

    That subnote for number 3. Based on time for one lens on Adobe Photoshop ☠️☠️ glad the 5 people who understood that know it. Rest of us wanna know what video render times look like.

  • @LyteDarq
    @LyteDarq6 ай бұрын

    As a materials scientist, pyrolitic graphite (“stacked graphene”) has abysmal thermal conductivity in the Z axis. It’s actually used as thermal insulator.

  • @bigjohn2811
    @bigjohn28116 ай бұрын

    So AMD's old stuff beats Intel's new stuff. Wow, Intel's marketing is next level.

  • @haukionkannel

    @haukionkannel

    6 ай бұрын

    Because the lastest does not matter! 😂😂😂

  • @ivayloivggrigorov9959

    @ivayloivggrigorov9959

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@juveboy01033you're the fanboy do you not realize it at this point?

  • @allxtend4005

    @allxtend4005

    6 ай бұрын

    They are but hurt because they need 4 generations of i9 to Beat the r7 5800x3d but AMD aß assholes aß they are released the r7 7800x3d 😮 and at the top of the AMD middlefinger they released the treadripper 7960-7995 that IS unmatched by Intels Xeon cpu's for years from on😂 and i saw a Video how someone overclocked all 96 Cores to over 6 GHz 😂 even AMD themself updated the Benchmark with Ther treadripper Score and got besten by someone WHO got a even Higher Score with that CPU 😂 Intel meanwhile looking Back at the Times where they can RIP Off customers with a i7 4c/8t for 6 to 7 generations and Charge every time 400-600$ and If you wanted more Cotes you Had to pay over 1000$ 😂

  • @DragonlordXV

    @DragonlordXV

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@juveboy01033they are beating them straight for 6 years consecutive

  • @insantonua

    @insantonua

    6 ай бұрын

    @@juveboy01033 well who cares about on stage, what matters is real world performance. see what i did there?! i did an intel :D

  • @Arashmickey
    @Arashmickey6 ай бұрын

    Userbenchmark: "Send me in coach, I'm ready!" Intel: "..."

  • @ShitkidOfJamrock
    @ShitkidOfJamrock6 ай бұрын

    "Newer doesnt mean better" Yes intel, you have made that abundantly clear. As far back as the 5800x3d AMD was using older and cheaper dies to make better, more power efficient chips. Turns out actually thinking things out and innovating makes things more cost effective, instead of just jamming 100 more watts through last gen's chips and calling it cutting edge

  • @carlr2837
    @carlr28376 ай бұрын

    As someone who just bought a 14700k, and whose son just bought a 14900k, while my other son runs a Ryzen, I can assure you that things are not always "the latest", nor are they always what they seem. The Ryzen is built on a 7nm process, and runs relatively cool peaking about 60C even with overclocking and no special cooling. The 14900k and 14700k are fast, yes, but since they are built on a 10nm process, in order to get that speed, they eat power, and crank out heat. They are designed to run at 256 watts, and peak at more. That takes at least a 950 watt power supply, and a massive amount of cooling. We had better than average cooling, but it still was peaking at over 90C at times, way too hot for a long life. We are moving up to a Dark Cool Assassin IV, Thermal Grizzly liquid metal, some 6000 RPM bitcoin mining fans, and some quieter 2-3000 RPM fans. In addition, we throttled the CPU down to peak at 170 watts. I expect that we can get the temperatures to peak at maybe 70 C, which is still pretty hot. Now, let's talk about who is selling snake oil. My understanding is that Intel has been unable to get their 7nm process running on schedule, so they are renaming their 10nm process to be called "Intel 7", and that when the 7nm process gets running, it will be called "Intel 4". If this is incorrect, someone, please correct me, but if it is correct, then that is disingenuous, sorry Intel. Are the 14700k and 14900k the "latest and greatest" or are they somewhat dated, using an older 10nm process to make them? In my opinion, the latter, and had I realized how much heat they put out, I would definitely have gone with a 7nm Ryzen.

  • @MikeHanson
    @MikeHanson6 ай бұрын

    So when the Intel CEO said AMD was in their review mirror at the 12th gen launch, what he really meant was "We cannot stop thinking about AMD".

  • @frommatorav1

    @frommatorav1

    6 ай бұрын

    No, I think he was just driving the car in reverse.

  • @MikeHanson

    @MikeHanson

    6 ай бұрын

    @@frommatorav1 Ah yes, now it makes sense. Thank you good citizen.

  • @Snerk56

    @Snerk56

    6 ай бұрын

    As soon as I read the word 'mirror' I imagined that Buffalo Bill mirror scene in Silence of the Lambs, except an Intel exec doing it.

  • @CCISolitude

    @CCISolitude

    6 ай бұрын

    "Objects in the rear view mirror are closer than they appear"

  • @OutOfNameIdeas2

    @OutOfNameIdeas2

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@frommatorav1no, intel spun of the road and ended up backwards in a ditch. And could see AMD slowly disappearing in the rear view mirror

  • @crashtestdummy87
    @crashtestdummy876 ай бұрын

    If intel is gonna lay off workers when things go bad they should start with their whole marketing department

  • @twign6378

    @twign6378

    6 ай бұрын

    They can't just axe their most innovative department like that

  • @kwrzesien17

    @kwrzesien17

    6 ай бұрын

    The funny thing is most companies consider their marketing department responsible for revenue and the engineering side is just an expense. Well maybe this isn’t funny at all.

  • @devilmikey00

    @devilmikey00

    6 ай бұрын

    I mean they'll lay off workers if things go good. Laying off workers is just standard corpo thing that happens on a nearly yearly basis these days to continue the illusion of infinite growth for shareholders.

  • @tinkerman5220
    @tinkerman52206 ай бұрын

    I'm glad to see you having fun on the job. It must be a nice break from all the thorough testing you do.

  • @guitarguy6561
    @guitarguy65616 ай бұрын

    Love the editing! keep it coming :)

  • @alb9229
    @alb92296 ай бұрын

    Intel : AMDs old architecture beats our new architecture so you should buy ours instead . AMD : Remind me again , when did we hire Intel to do our marketing ?

  • @shadowwolf2608

    @shadowwolf2608

    6 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't call making free marketing being hired...but I don't think AMD's complaining.

  • @alb9229

    @alb9229

    6 ай бұрын

    @@shadowwolf2608 Yeah the joke was you got be paid to make a selling argument for your competition .... or just be Intel marketing team 😂

  • @smugdiogenes5571

    @smugdiogenes5571

    6 ай бұрын

    “Here’s our new slidedeck!” “Uhhh…how is this supposed to help sell Intel processors?” “….Intel processors?”

  • @alargecorgi2199

    @alargecorgi2199

    6 ай бұрын

    I think these slides are for boomer illiteraters and 30-40 somethings now that are also clueless but need to buy something for their new kids

  • @soupysoup931

    @soupysoup931

    6 ай бұрын

    Intel snapped after having 11900k, and 14900k launches and also having their asses handed by AMD since 3000 series. It's hilarious how 5800x3d still shits on most amd and intel cpus in gaming(value/performance wise) and 7800x3d completely destroys Intel.

  • @CML-ng5ez
    @CML-ng5ez6 ай бұрын

    Can't wait for Intel to start paying companies to use their products instead of AMD again. It's been almost 20 years from the last lawsuit.

  • @benjaminoechsli1941

    @benjaminoechsli1941

    6 ай бұрын

    Based on the market share AMD has been taking in just about every business sector, I doubt they have the money to pull that crap at this point. 😅

  • @DeetexSeraphine

    @DeetexSeraphine

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@benjaminoechsli1941I dunno man, this is right up Dell's dodgey alley

  • @NamTran-xc2ip

    @NamTran-xc2ip

    6 ай бұрын

    They already been doing this. 16 inch laptops almost exclusively have intel cpus

  • @cristi724

    @cristi724

    6 ай бұрын

    What makes you think they ever stopped?

  • @ACE112ACE112

    @ACE112ACE112

    6 ай бұрын

    what happened?

  • @_hotsause_
    @_hotsause_6 ай бұрын

    As somebody who works retail and had enrolled in the intel retail edge program; Without watching the video, I can say first hand that intel has absolutely gone off the deep end when it comes to trying to regain their foothold in the market share. It's honestly embarrassing how they're trying to dunk on apples devices for the "limited" macos ecosystem. And even blatantly lying or just outright incorrect about the hardware specs and capabilities of Macs since they moved to their own silicon. I know GN doesn't really have a lot to say about apple products but some of what they said was downright embarrassing. Even how they were trying to talk up their great new intel link application- or whatever it was called. That functionally replaced what the Phone Link on windows was trying to accomplish... With none of the benefits (also it works on iOS which is odd considering how much they seem to dislike apple). Once they started bashing AMDs processors despite some of their own metrics being within a margin of error, they never got off that high horse for that extra 4% performance improvement over AMD however. I haven't used the retail edge program since, and it's too bad, since their rewards were a great incentive to keep up the training. Except that the store was always out of stock of anything worthwhile... Unless you by chance get lucky and want to order a funko pop or pokemon cards packs...

  • @slimj091
    @slimj0916 ай бұрын

    My boss doesn't seem to think that me being the latest to work is a good thing.

  • @amilyester
    @amilyester6 ай бұрын

    Just when they were on a good streak with Arc steadily improving, Alder and Raptor being well received and IFS being on track, Intel relapses with this crap smh...

  • @V_0717

    @V_0717

    6 ай бұрын

    I think the GPU division is somewhat autonomous from the CPU division. The CPU division is just having a tantrum right now and is making the entire company look bad, still behavior like this is just childish.

  • @IamJay02

    @IamJay02

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@V_0717it's the whole company

  • @kekistanifreedomfighter4197

    @kekistanifreedomfighter4197

    6 ай бұрын

    Never underestimate a marketing team's ability to try ruining any good will that engineering and developer teams build up with customers & press.

  • @ShaneTheGeek

    @ShaneTheGeek

    6 ай бұрын

    Geeze really!!! I was just starting to like Intel again with all the recent improvements to the Arc GPU's. Then CPU marketing demons had to start opening their slide decks.

  • @jimtekkit

    @jimtekkit

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kekistanifreedomfighter4197 I won't be specific but I worked at a company that made public claims that their new army land vehicle design was ready for production. I was on the engineering team. We had only produced one demonstrator vehicle and it wasn't even proven to drive under its own power yet at that point. Not only that, we knew it would've required a complete ground-up re-design before being ready for production anyway. That's how much of a disconnect there was between the marketing team and reality.

  • @atom608
    @atom6086 ай бұрын

    The fact they posted this after 14th gen release has to be satire.

  • @nosirrahx

    @nosirrahx

    6 ай бұрын

    As they talk about the 11th gen, over and over.

  • @dan_loeb

    @dan_loeb

    6 ай бұрын

    you see this often, people project their own faults onto others to rationalize their problems. and reassure themselves they are doing well.

  • @FcoEnriquePerez

    @FcoEnriquePerez

    6 ай бұрын

    I mean, they have done shit like this already, not their first time, they are the main character when talking about bullshitting.

  • @Tox927

    @Tox927

    6 ай бұрын

    Sadly and pathetically it's not.

  • @daedaluslv2032

    @daedaluslv2032

    6 ай бұрын

    Something must be wrong with new gen sales. Oh wait, sales of new gen names.

  • @MatthewHill
    @MatthewHill6 ай бұрын

    If learning depends on the latest 2023 CPUs, then I must've gotten a completely shit education because we only had 80286's back then.

  • @sean8102
    @sean81026 ай бұрын

    I was trying to decide to upgrade from my 8700K processor/platform, between the i7 14700K/KF or AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D. After seeing this video I placed my order for a X670E MSI Mobo, 7800X3D, 32GB DDR5 (16GBx2) 6000, beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4 and a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME drive. Thanks for helping make my decision Intel! Seeing a company behave like this and being so scare of the competition is all I need to see. Plus will be my first AMD build since the FX days! Oh and learning that intel's next CPU's will require a new socket while AM5 still has at least ~3-4 years according to AMD. And after seeing the longevity of AM4 I believe them.

  • @kalujny

    @kalujny

    6 ай бұрын

    Congratulations, this rig will rock.

  • @Laru-

    @Laru-

    6 ай бұрын

    Didn't even need to see the video , intel doesn't compete with that cpu , i think they can barely catch the 5800X3D

  • @shakyjake2133

    @shakyjake2133

    5 ай бұрын

    @sean8102 Funny enough I'm on a Ryzen 1800X. I've been debating trying Intel again - this video just made sure I get a 7800x3d. I refuse to support a company who does this. Intel may use less power when idle, but AMD's socket longevity and Intel's ridiculously high power consumption under load without tweeking whereas AMD rarely goes above 100W has me even more convinced. Hope you're enjoying your AMD build! After doing tons of research on coolers - far more than I wanted or needed to, probably, I'm going with a Noctua d15. This Lenovo prebuilt has served me well for 6 years - I predicted I'd get two out of it, so props. May something better come along.

  • @wastanley734

    @wastanley734

    3 ай бұрын

    Now we just need the world see that Nvidia has been doing this same thing for years!

  • @TexanMiror2
    @TexanMiror26 ай бұрын

    Intel has always been involved in legally-gray-zone if not downright illegal marketing and anti-competitive behavior, so this doesn't surprise me, but seriously, these slides are absolutely hilarious. I am so glad AMD is going strong enough to put them in their place and make them cry like this, because the consumer needs strong competition. Ideally, though, I would like to see competition based on honest performance metrics, rather than misleading consumers.

  • @zihechen3111

    @zihechen3111

    6 ай бұрын

    Amd marketing team is worse.

  • @casnub5484

    @casnub5484

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@zihechen3111for real lol.

  • @masterluckyluke

    @masterluckyluke

    6 ай бұрын

    What? Most of the time Intel didn't do any marketing at all.^^

  • @zihechen3111

    @zihechen3111

    6 ай бұрын

    @@casnub5484 and the truth is amd naming theme really suck as. Those amd marketing incompetents simply can’t keep consistency. They get 1700x out, then 2700x, 3700x, then suddenly skips 4000 from reason and jumps to 5000, and again skips 6000 for no reason jump to 7000. Seems like in those incompetents mindset, bigger numbers mean better. So they give no fk about naming themes skips 4000 bc they want use bigger number. Even it breaks consistency. A good company should care a lot about consistency so that customers may trust their product and they can build the reputation. However amd don’t care about consistency, those incompetents in amd simply can’t realize the importance consistency do to long term growth. that is why amd a garbage company. It’s a garbage company with incompetents only sees short terms. Being a loser forever is what amd deserve

  • @AllMuscle1

    @AllMuscle1

    6 ай бұрын

    Whenever current technology reaches its zenith and the engineers tell the executives that they will be unable to pull any large performance gains in future iterations, that is when companies start to turn towards collusion and lying to customers. In the case of electron-based lithography, we are reaching that zenith. This is why the change towards smearing one another and trying to mislead the customer. Until a new realm expansion of technology comes down the pipeline, this will be the state of things to come for the next 5-7 years. It is akin to when AMD64 and Pentium III/4 (funny that Core2 went back to the Pentium III architecture) started to stagnate. Core 2 Duo was Intel's way out of this. It stopped all over AMD until the Core i architecture started to turn out mediocre gains. Thankfully, we saw AMD launch Ryzen, real competition with Intel, and the expansion of innovation through parallel processor core computing. Not sure what will follow, but it will be interesting.

  • @chrisbaker8533
    @chrisbaker85336 ай бұрын

    It's great to see intel's new AI doing something.

  • @Techspin

    @Techspin

    6 ай бұрын

    Right? Seems Intel's presentation was pretty much AI generated 😂

  • @Real_MisterSir

    @Real_MisterSir

    6 ай бұрын

    bro that's an insult to AI

  • @tringuyen7519

    @tringuyen7519

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Real_MisterSirAgreed. Nvidia’s AI will at least talk you in a creepy way!

  • @greebj

    @greebj

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree the arguments they confect in this convoluted mess are highly Artifical... not so sure about Intelligent

  • @maItre_gonzo

    @maItre_gonzo

    6 ай бұрын

    Actually a very good point and probably the whole explanation. This has to be AI generated.

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow12 ай бұрын

    Say they named the new processor 'Bread'. So why cant they just do Bread 1, Bread 2, Bread 3, etc. And for changes in between major changes just use 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, etc. Why is that so difficult???

  • @GThu1
    @GThu16 ай бұрын

    "...I have to thank you, because nothing give me more energy, than this kind of marketing." This is why I like this show.

  • @AlexanderVonMalachi
    @AlexanderVonMalachi6 ай бұрын

    How that presentation got approved is beyond my comprehension.

  • @m0rthaus

    @m0rthaus

    6 ай бұрын

    Maybe the execs have all left early for their holidays in Aspen, France, etc - middle management has taken the wheel, and they just slammed into a ditch.

  • @tsjeriAu

    @tsjeriAu

    6 ай бұрын

    Perhaps whoever runs UserBenchmark is in charge of making that slide.

  • @osamu_90

    @osamu_90

    6 ай бұрын

    The people that made that presentation and approved it are probably going to lose their jobs lol, this is too bizarre even for Intel standards.

  • @KG4949-r9f

    @KG4949-r9f

    6 ай бұрын

    i can imagine that pat personally approved it...

  • @Munenushi

    @Munenushi

    6 ай бұрын

    lol their "CPUpro" writers, yes!@@tsjeriAu

  • @mrhoach2229
    @mrhoach22296 ай бұрын

    Intel guy 1: "Do we maybe spot check the AI generated marketing campaign at all before we launch?" Intel guy 2: "Nahhh, let her rip tater chip." Two dudes at Intel, probably.

  • @IanTheCat

    @IanTheCat

    6 ай бұрын

    You forgot the line they snorted beforehand

  • @Yellowredstone

    @Yellowredstone

    6 ай бұрын

    "Let her rip tater chip." is my new slogan now. Thanks.

  • @Chewiebakke

    @Chewiebakke

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Yellowredstone Where can I get a clip of Duke Nukem saying this?

  • @GigaChadAlucard

    @GigaChadAlucard

    6 ай бұрын

    someone respond to me on this so that way i remember to use let her rip tater chip lmao

  • @IXFlipyap

    @IXFlipyap

    20 күн бұрын

    @@GigaChadAlucardlet her rip tater chip

  • @gojiplusone
    @gojiplusone6 ай бұрын

    9:06 the MPAA age rating for their products really got me...😂 Can't wait for the R-rated version of i9 14900K...

  • @dubsessed9790
    @dubsessed97906 ай бұрын

    I really liked the walking/outdoor shots! Back to you, Steve.

  • @eleven99
    @eleven996 ай бұрын

    This is what companies like to do when they're pissy because they lost their monopoly status and are forced to compete again.

  • @naamadossantossilva4736

    @naamadossantossilva4736

    6 ай бұрын

    And what is funny is that this was very preventable.They dumped engineers when they thought AMD couldn't compete anymore.If they had not done that 14 and 10 nm would have been on track and Ryzen would have failed.

  • @eliasroflchopper3006

    @eliasroflchopper3006

    6 ай бұрын

    They deserve every bit of this.

  • @nintendoatarikiller

    @nintendoatarikiller

    6 ай бұрын

    Nice profile picture🤝

  • @musouisshin

    @musouisshin

    6 ай бұрын

    @@naamadossantossilva4736 in all honesty ryzen would have never failed bcz AMD is completely capable of adding more cores to lower tier processors with thei power consumption rn but their margins would be reduced but if they have already gambled the company on ryzen they wouldnt back down - intel just made it easier

  • @esotericjahanism5251

    @esotericjahanism5251

    6 ай бұрын

    @@eliasroflchopper3006 Yeah its what they get for trying to sell us the same quad-core processors for a fucking decade.

  • @osiris5432
    @osiris54326 ай бұрын

    This deck was made at 2 in the morning by a new marketing hire that woke up sweaty and hyperventilating from an "AMD ate my homework" nightmare

  • @ronnysiri2934
    @ronnysiri29346 ай бұрын

    Great effort in the angles for this vid

  • @FluffyPuppyKasey
    @FluffyPuppyKasey6 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure if I can get in contact with you all via email so I figured I'd drop a comment here since it's fairly relevant. I'm noticing lately a lot of tech outlets are recommending ancient (i.e GTX 1660/RTX 2060) GPUs as "deals" when they're being sold on Amazon for literally twice as much as you could get a GPU for on the used market, or just get a modern GPU for the same damn price. I just recorded a completely unhinged rant about the topic because it GENUINELY pisses me off. What caused me to spiral out of control on the topic is an article from PC Guide with the headline "EVGA midrange 20 series gaming GPU’s price plunges in Amazon deal." Like, why the hell is the author recommending four year old GPUs that get destroyed by even low end GPUs of this generation? Why are they $300? Why did they do zero research and just copy and paste the marketing? And most egregious: WHY ARE THEY COMPARING TO A SEVEN YEAR OLD GPU? I'm seeing this ABSOLUTELY everywhere. If it's LAST GEN stuff I get it, but more and more I'm seeing tech outlets recommending ancient stuff as "deals" when if you did just a LITTLE research you'd find that's not the case

  • @adul00
    @adul006 ай бұрын

    I saw CrossMark, (2:51) and that was enough. I am from Poland, and recently there was a bill, that all 4th-graders (~10 y.o.) at school are to receive government-funded laptops, and one of the requirements for specs was 1100 points in CrossMark, which is known to very heavily favour Intel. Ryzen 9 5980HX reached 1098 points (not enough to be considered), while dual-core i3-1115G4 - 1118 points.

  • @angelaizen2231

    @angelaizen2231

    6 ай бұрын

    Bruh what. Intel bribing your government or what

  • @TingFeng77

    @TingFeng77

    6 ай бұрын

    so basically like userbench but in benchmarking software

  • @zetsubou3704

    @zetsubou3704

    6 ай бұрын

    What in the fuck did Intel pay the government ☠️☠️☠️☠️

  • @nathanlarson6535

    @nathanlarson6535

    6 ай бұрын

    This is what happens when you have career politicians and/or corporate trust fund babies make big decisions regarding things they know absolutely nothing about.

  • @eliasroflchopper3006

    @eliasroflchopper3006

    6 ай бұрын

    Someone should tell them how computers work, then.

  • @acidic.sydney
    @acidic.sydney6 ай бұрын

    “You’re not old enough for an i9” made me laugh way too hard

  • @Loop_Kat

    @Loop_Kat

    6 ай бұрын

    Even better is the notion that you have to give up on Intel completely and go buy AMD anyway after you reach 16 simply because they don't make anything above an i9

  • @chrisrib05

    @chrisrib05

    6 ай бұрын

    Great thing to use against your kid asking for an overpowered/overpriced PC 😈

  • @MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww

    @MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww

    6 ай бұрын

    @@chrisrib05 Hey, be fair. It always depens of what the kid is useing for. If he/she´s asking for an 4090 playing GTA5, No. Playing Fortnite, Maybe (Nanite is powerfull and needs alot of power). Playing Cyberpunk 2077, Yes.

  • @aladdin8623

    @aladdin8623

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowwwSorry but no game ever justifies paying such totally exaggerated prices for gpus.

  • @MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww

    @MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww

    6 ай бұрын

    @@aladdin8623 Just buy them second hand. Let the rich people, who buy them anyway go puff there chests with them and when they are bored of those cards, they sell them for half the price to someone who actually has a practical use for such a card.

  • @anaryl
    @anaryl6 ай бұрын

    I think more than ever, this is a commentary on marketing and PR firms being fundamentally unable to grasp what the target market wants.

  • @stenca6461
    @stenca64616 ай бұрын

    Damn Intel finally hired userbenchmark in their marketing team

  • @galidou99
    @galidou996 ай бұрын

    It's clear to all of us that intel hired UserBenchmark's employees to come out with a presentation like that.

  • @HoboWithWifi

    @HoboWithWifi

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm still waiting on userbenchmark's 🔥🔥🔥 review on 14th gen Intel. It's been a month and a half since the release and they've still got nothing to say. :(

  • @Heinz76Harald

    @Heinz76Harald

    6 ай бұрын

    obvious XD

  • @t.r.2283

    @t.r.2283

    6 ай бұрын

    No they hired the latest and greatest useless humans. The business consultant. I bet it's the same guys that work for Lego.

  • @DeltaSierra426

    @DeltaSierra426

    6 ай бұрын

    Ohhhhh, yes, this does remind me of UserBenchmark! You called it dead-on.

  • @dualtronix4438

    @dualtronix4438

    6 ай бұрын

    In one of the AMD cpu reviews in UB, they refer buying AMD as buying an used card. Intel's presentation has car salesman on it @@DeltaSierra426

  • @mehemynxm6974
    @mehemynxm69746 ай бұрын

    This coming after the 14 debacle is insane. This has to be an AI idea or something. No way a human thought this through.

  • @pkt1213

    @pkt1213

    6 ай бұрын

    Made by AI or a person, you are correct in that no thought was involved.

  • @kreozello

    @kreozello

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​@@pkt1213nailed it. Just one addition: *rational* though wasn't involved.

  • @bjrnegillarsen1380

    @bjrnegillarsen1380

    6 ай бұрын

    AI would have done a better job, this garbage has meth written all over it...

  • @grumpycat5991

    @grumpycat5991

    6 ай бұрын

    This was my 1st impression... It was written by AI My 2nd though was that each slide was written by a different marketing intern and no one higher up bothered to read the whole thing.

  • @florianoprescu2171

    @florianoprescu2171

    6 ай бұрын

    It's the Userbrnchmark guy

  • @JasonBrody657
    @JasonBrody6572 ай бұрын

    As shareholder I'm genuinely sad. And realy thinking of dumping INTC from my portfolio. What a shame for this company 😔

  • @antimatt_r
    @antimatt_r6 ай бұрын

    Sounds like some intern messed up and accidentally made a slideshow out of the talking points meant for UserBenchmark

  • @joehurst3495
    @joehurst34956 ай бұрын

    Shows how scared Intel is getting.

  • @MikehMike01

    @MikehMike01

    6 ай бұрын

    AMD is garbage

  • @Steven-hq6df

    @Steven-hq6df

    6 ай бұрын

    @@MikehMike01intel should hire you to make more of these slide decks

  • @snozzmcberry2366

    @snozzmcberry2366

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@MikehMike01What, exactly, do you think you gain from this? Think Pat Gelsinger is going to show up at your house to tug one out for you and give you a complementary 14900K?

  • @ipodtouchiscoollol

    @ipodtouchiscoollol

    6 ай бұрын

    @@MikehMike01 Thank you Intel worker #231763, very cool.

  • @anderson9244MLG

    @anderson9244MLG

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@MikehMike01🤓

  • @certifiedpossum1638
    @certifiedpossum16386 ай бұрын

    Steve's editing team probably spent more time removing background noise in this video than intel on that slide deck.

  • @tonydalimata

    @tonydalimata

    6 ай бұрын

    Yah , there was probably a lot of laughter in the background

  • @1samm1

    @1samm1

    6 ай бұрын

    Successfully so, you might add 👍

  • @JohnWiku

    @JohnWiku

    6 ай бұрын

    How do you remove laughter? Do you need to laugh backwards so it cancels out? 😂😂

  • @1samm1

    @1samm1

    6 ай бұрын

    @@JohnWiku forward, but you have to laugh out of phase to cancel the other laughter

  • @tonydalimata

    @tonydalimata

    6 ай бұрын

    @@JohnWiku one needs to add in the sound of salt creation , they cancel each other out. One needs be careful about the source of the salt though . Salt coming from Reddit posts can result in wailing and nashing of teeth background noise. Salt sourced from e-sports losers results in a high pitched whine.

  • @halko1
    @halko16 ай бұрын

    10:59 Finally I know which CPU is good for a 5 year old making PowerPoint presentations. Much better than confusing AMD marketing.

  • @couriersix2443
    @couriersix24436 ай бұрын

    Meanwhile 14th gen is just a Raptor Lake refresh still using the same Gracemont E-cores since Alder Lake (which have been determined to have IPC equivalent to their beloved 14nm Skylake architecture). It’s almost as if Skylake never left us! But hey, it’s the “latest” and therefore the “best”…right?

  • @sean8102

    @sean8102

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad I pulled the trigger on a Ryzen 7 7800X3D system. Was having a hard time deciding between i7 14700K/KF platform or the Ryzen 7. I'm upgrading from 8700K so it's a major upgrade obv going from PCI-E Gen 3 to 4 and 5, DDR5 etc. This video is what made me pull the trigger on the AMD build. X670E MSI Mobo, 7800X3D, 32GB DDR5 (16GBx2) 6000, beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4 and a 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME drive, It's a Christmas Gift so gotta wait till Christmas to put it together. Drives me crazy knowing all the parts are here right now :D

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey006 ай бұрын

    The part that always gets me with stuff like this is that an entire team of people almost certainly worked on this and entire different team of people approved it. This flew by god knows how many eyes and they all went "Yup, this kills". Never feel like you aren't good enough folks, we live in a world full of clowns failing upwards and so can you! Seeing stuff like this is truly inspirational.

  • @Yoshihara72

    @Yoshihara72

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm pretty sure there is a good amount of people involved in this, that clearly knew what is going to happen. But they either couldn't voice their opinion, didn't care to voice their opinion or simply got shut down by someone higher than them. I mean, if I get paid for doing some lazy ass stupid slide that I am absolutely 100% sure it's going to fail horribly anyway, I'd only put in enough effort to "please" the higher ups and enjoy the light work. Heck, if I'm feeling funny and/or desperate, I would even go out of my way to make things "more interestingly". If the train is going to crash anyway, why not enjoy the right and make sure we get a nice firework out of the crash? At the very least, I get occasionally get similar vibes from these Slides here.

  • @aubullion

    @aubullion

    6 ай бұрын

    I have never felt more qualified to be a CEO in my life

  • @infernaldaedra

    @infernaldaedra

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@Yoshihara72these slides perfectly capture the company culture

  • @JVCA44

    @JVCA44

    6 ай бұрын

    I dunno man, depending on how Intel operates internally, this might have been done by a small marketing team that takes care of that specific page/blog. But who really knows

  • @arthurmoore9488

    @arthurmoore9488

    6 ай бұрын

    @@JVCA44 My thought as well. Though I believe the page they showed is one of Intel's "Document" sites. One with a ton of material on it, and probably with far too many people having permissions on the back end.

  • @Silentguy_
    @Silentguy_6 ай бұрын

    It’s finally happened. Intel has devolved to UserBenchmark levels of marketing. Edit: I made this comment within the first 120 seconds. By the end of the video it was so much worse. I genuinely can’t believe this managed to make it past even the most junior of marketing teams.

  • @dojelnotmyrealname4018

    @dojelnotmyrealname4018

    6 ай бұрын

    Honestly by the end I was just confused. They should hire an autistic 5 year old so he can scream "WHAT POINT ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO MAKE" halfway through the presentation.

  • @eigos

    @eigos

    6 ай бұрын

    Intel: BUY BLUE, cause RED is BAD!! And whatever you do, DON'T believe the benchmarks!

  • @user-qc6pg6ef6h

    @user-qc6pg6ef6h

    6 ай бұрын

    Remember "glued together desktop dies"? Exceedingly shady "amdflaws"? There are many more.

  • @Knebebelmeyer

    @Knebebelmeyer

    6 ай бұрын

    u absolutly right... its neanderthal marketing^^

  • @sorryclaire8920

    @sorryclaire8920

    6 ай бұрын

    "Intel has devolved to UserBenchmark levels of marketing" There is no proof to prove or disprove that these 2 entities are not one in the same.

  • @torinnbalasar6774
    @torinnbalasar67746 ай бұрын

    I have a GeForce 1060 6GB and a Ryzen 7 1700x. While I don't exactly play many AAA titles, I do regularly run VMs and still play many games, and the only bottlenecks or instances where I found my processing lacking was a result of using an HDD before upgrading to an SSD, and insufficient RAM when ARK had a memory leak.

  • @Beerpowered
    @Beerpowered2 ай бұрын

    Benchmarks are the only marketing I pay attention to. Power, Thermal, Performance, Efficiency. If your chip runs at 90c and consumes 300w, will probably skip.

  • @Canivirus
    @Canivirus6 ай бұрын

    You know you messed up when you release a marketing piece then suddenly see Steve recording a video in front of your building.

  • @doorlesswings9356

    @doorlesswings9356

    6 ай бұрын

    It's the equivalent of a demon seeing doomguy is awake... Cue music

  • @tobytoxd

    @tobytoxd

    6 ай бұрын

    🤣

  • @CapaNoisyCapa

    @CapaNoisyCapa

    6 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @mycosys

    @mycosys

    6 ай бұрын

    if Steve is filming outside your office, rather than inside, you done goofed

  • @Xuzyy
    @Xuzyy6 ай бұрын

    Its genuine incredible this slide show was created approved and shared, there are people getting paid for this, insane

  • @seeibe

    @seeibe

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah I've seen some dumb shit working for large companies but this is next level

  • @Real_MisterSir

    @Real_MisterSir

    6 ай бұрын

    tinfoil hat me would love to believe this was some sabotage employee planted in secret by AMD in the Intel ranks, cold war style anti-propaganda espionage/sabotage

  • @tringuyen7519

    @tringuyen7519

    6 ай бұрын

    AMD is launching Hawk Point at CES in 1 month & Strix Point in Computex 2024. Intel’s MTL has to compete with both in 2024. Spoiler: it will get obliterated.

  • @haukionkannel

    @haukionkannel

    6 ай бұрын

    I want also that kind of job! Where i can enlist? 😂😂😂

  • @Atari5732

    @Atari5732

    6 ай бұрын

    9:13 An odd chart indeed, I would never recommend an i3 for content creation, and how is esports more power hungry than AI? At 11:35 they suggest that coding requires a future proof machine. People are still coding in Python on XP - practically any basic machine will handle coding/compiling. At 12:20 we can see where they didn't properly align the icons and the middle of the page looks awful. All this and they completely failed to mention one of the most CPU intensive process of all: bitmining. They couldn't even stick to the blue/orange color scheme they started with - towards the end they just look like someone made them in MS office.

  • @peezyplayz2498
    @peezyplayz24985 ай бұрын

    0:12 this must be our first real look at the legendary beeve sturk IRL

  • @ProductJunkie117
    @ProductJunkie1176 ай бұрын

    I'm enjoying the outdoor videos lol Nexus Tech Reporter!

  • @WR250a
    @WR250a6 ай бұрын

    Steve: intel is pedaling snake oil Intel: No one wants an un-oiled snake

  • @KyleMc16

    @KyleMc16

    6 ай бұрын

    The latest un-oiled snake

  • @scimbrelo

    @scimbrelo

    6 ай бұрын

    Coffee snake (refresh)

  • @GeneralNickles

    @GeneralNickles

    6 ай бұрын

    You gotta oil your snakes so those Ophidiophobes are justified in thinking snakes are slimy.

  • @ventrueinconnu3527

    @ventrueinconnu3527

    6 ай бұрын

    Something about "no one wants an unoiled snake" just gave me a full body shudder and a desperate need to ask for an adult.

  • @erkinalp

    @erkinalp

    6 ай бұрын

    @@KyleMc16 the *last un-oiled snake ever

  • @funtaril
    @funtaril6 ай бұрын

    Imagine working for a tech giant and seeing Steve Burke in flesh in front of your company sign actively gesturing and recording some agitated speech. I bet that's unforgettable feeling of either existential dread or immense pride (and the latter probably happens much less often).

  • @CNGTunes

    @CNGTunes

    6 ай бұрын

    Honestly I wouldn’t give a shit. It’s not like a big newspaper scoop about how your company is doing an Enron or similar

  • @sc3ku

    @sc3ku

    6 ай бұрын

    I would love to see the footage of Steve hiding behind that tree

  • @AlejandroGonzalez-ww6tz

    @AlejandroGonzalez-ww6tz

    6 ай бұрын

    @@CNGTunes And that’s why the company would fail in your case, because you underestimate the reach and power that independent media has.

  • @ApeBlin

    @ApeBlin

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​@@CNGTunesthis video has over half a million views and reaches an audience who is intrested on this subject. How is that something gou can ignore as a company?

  • @FraggnAUT

    @FraggnAUT

    6 ай бұрын

    "Oh shit, is he still out there?" - "No, can't see him." - "Check his KZread, oh shit oh fuck."

  • @GOTWINGSHD
    @GOTWINGSHD5 күн бұрын

    Loving the camera transitions

  • @JustAnotherAlchemist
    @JustAnotherAlchemist6 ай бұрын

    Being that this is the same company that nerfed their own compiler so that if it detected anything other than Intel CPU it would produce slow code, this doesn't surprise me.

  • @johnpmchappell

    @johnpmchappell

    6 ай бұрын

    Aye, still annoys me.

  • @Katastra_
    @Katastra_6 ай бұрын

    That presentation with all the "thanks Steve" moments is the gift that keeps on giving lmao

  • @CptJistuce

    @CptJistuce

    6 ай бұрын

    You can literally see it!

  • @jazzochannel

    @jazzochannel

    6 ай бұрын

    Back to you, Steve.

  • 6 ай бұрын

    Oh, those COVID Times Jewels

  • @deadmanschest4322

    @deadmanschest4322

    6 ай бұрын

    @ I have the bad feeling Covid had nothing to do with it ;p

  • 6 ай бұрын

    ​@@deadmanschest4322i mentioned Covid times since that intel presentación wherebthe clips were extracted were from the CES presentation from 2020! Quarantine era!

  • @AliasAlias-nm9df
    @AliasAlias-nm9df6 ай бұрын

    At the end of it all we find ourselves asking "If they can't put together a presentation how can they put together a CPU?"

  • @codykonior

    @codykonior

    6 ай бұрын

    You can trust it because it’s the latest presentation.

  • @tatwood93

    @tatwood93

    6 ай бұрын

    They are marketing to the people who buy laptops for schools. It's a large market, at least in my backwater district in Ohio we had at least one laptop for every kid. When I was that age, every school had those crappy Windows 7 Celeron netbooks with 5200rpm HDDs that took half the class to boot. Swing by the walmart laptop section and you'll notice AMD has recently taken over a large chunk of the laptop market that intel once hed, not to mention ARM chromebooks & the fact that Apple's new laptops don't use Intel. IMO Intel pushed their products into schools before they were ready for that kind of application, and gave the Celeron a bad rep for wasting valuable classroom time. Hence why they're now saying a 5-10 year old needs an i3 for programming, and are trying to associate that bad reputation they've created for Windows netbooks with AMD. The benchmark thing is especially funny, it's like they know an underpowered chromebook will do the job just fine and there's no need for an i3 but they just need something to point at and say theirs is better.

  • @haroldflower8008

    @haroldflower8008

    6 ай бұрын

    they need to stick to making good CPUs, super hard i know

  • @manefin

    @manefin

    6 ай бұрын

    Thats easy to answer, different teams make different things. I have no doubt intel has good professional teams making the actual chips. But im interested what was actually the team that made that "but but snake oil and latest is latest and greatest but not greatest and not latest" abomination. Who are those people and why were they paid to make that abomination ? And by whom ? Now that would be interesting to know.

  • @dead-claudia

    @dead-claudia

    6 ай бұрын

    @@tatwood93sure but there's better ways to do that...

  • @SeanBlader
    @SeanBlader6 ай бұрын

    I can just imagine Steve walking the streets of San Francisco as a crazy person ranting to himself about computer components.

  • @Dunnerski
    @Dunnerski6 ай бұрын

    I love watching the people in the background look at the Host, figuring out who hes talking to.

  • @MiketheBassMan
    @MiketheBassMan6 ай бұрын

    I have to believe they could fire their marketing team and have engineering do it to greater effect.

  • @Hexagonaldonut

    @Hexagonaldonut

    6 ай бұрын

    Probably. Engineering *actually knows the numbers* after all.

  • @lewisclark9656

    @lewisclark9656

    6 ай бұрын

    Engineers are too busy to deal with this shit

  • @asbeltrion

    @asbeltrion

    6 ай бұрын

    Even the cleaning staff would do better than this, lmao.

  • @NoSpamForYou

    @NoSpamForYou

    6 ай бұрын

    @@lewisclark9656 Are they though? intel is back to their 5% per year improvements lol.

  • @FrogOf4Chan

    @FrogOf4Chan

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@NoSpamForYou If the Engineers at Intel were allowed to be as creative as they could be the world would have its first nuclear powered desktop, I joke but engineers are some of the craziest people I've ever seen and must be reigned in 90 ish percent of the time lest they wipe us all out with their inventions.

  • @DivusMagus
    @DivusMagus6 ай бұрын

    Intel's marketing was so bizarre, Steve had to go outside to make sure reality was still in order.

  • @montgomeryfitzpatrick473

    @montgomeryfitzpatrick473

    6 ай бұрын

    It was San Fransisco, so all the men dressed as women out of camera frame should tell him it is not

  • @Krannski

    @Krannski

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473what a random time and place to start coping

  • @montgomeryfitzpatrick473

    @montgomeryfitzpatrick473

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Krannski triggered 2 of you "validating my delusion is your responsiblity" types in 15 minutes so totally worth it

  • @Krannski

    @Krannski

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473lol, you're the one who got triggered by the idea of "men dressed as women" so much you brought it up in an intel video. You're projecting, bub. Typical. But whatever helps you sleep at night. Also, wtf does "validating my delusion is your responsibility" even mean? You seem to have constructed an image in your head and are imparting onto me things I never said. I just said you're coping. Cause you are. You got triggered by cross dressers in a video that doesn't have any cross dressers. That's called an obsession, by definition. Have a nice day.

  • @rometherevenant8749
    @rometherevenant87496 ай бұрын

    Man I laughed unintentionally just seeing Steve pop out from behind that tree in the beginning lol

  • @MikeKasprzak
    @MikeKasprzak6 ай бұрын

    How the exec that approved this deck survived the layoffs is a mystery.

  • @Farquad76.547
    @Farquad76.5476 ай бұрын

    Why are companies like this? There’s zero dignity in it. As a CEO I wouldn’t even entertain the idea of slandering competition.

  • @alaeriia01

    @alaeriia01

    6 ай бұрын

    AMD's entire EPYC launch was slandering Intel. The key difference is that AMD actually had a superior product.

  • @CalculatedRiskAK

    @CalculatedRiskAK

    6 ай бұрын

    Funny thing is Intel isn't even slandering AMD so much as they're making themselves just look... stupid.

  • @ZackSNetwork

    @ZackSNetwork

    6 ай бұрын

    Depends on how you do it. As long as your not lying it’s not a big deal.

  • @samuelrodgers2742

    @samuelrodgers2742

    6 ай бұрын

    @@alaeriia01When AMD talked shit on Intel, they were confident in their own products being better. Intel talking shit on AMD in presentation slides just seems weak and desperate when their 320W 14900K loses to the 7800X3D which uses less than half the power.

  • @scott8919

    @scott8919

    6 ай бұрын

    Their marketing team is as slimy and misleading as Tesla's.

  • @JizzburnGigaqueer
    @JizzburnGigaqueer6 ай бұрын

    The filmography of this video is just a ton of fun, I love all of these comedic shots of Steve walking and talking, especially after the editor was nice enough to forewarn me of his descent into deranged mania.

  • @Munenushi

    @Munenushi

    6 ай бұрын

    it's like a 1980s music video where the singer is just walking...everywhere in the city... lol awesome

  • @SpartanArmy117

    @SpartanArmy117

    6 ай бұрын

    If by fun you mean awful then yeah I agree. I get that's kind of the point but shooting something lazily and terribly as a "joke" doesn't really land for me. It's more like you unironically produced crap. With that being said the script was great.

  • @Takyodor2

    @Takyodor2

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SpartanArmy117 I liked it

  • @theguy8412

    @theguy8412

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SpartanArmy117 It was funny you are just mad for no reason, no shit this whole video was done "fast" it was meant to be a mostly laughing at intel video not anytihng serious

  • @SpartanArmy117

    @SpartanArmy117

    6 ай бұрын

    @@theguy8412 Mad? Why does everyone on the internet assume anger when it's just an observation. I understand it was done "fast" but doesn't he literally roast companies and other people for not taking time and producing good products\content. I'm not saying it needs to be a masterpiece but in my opinion it's not "quirky" to frame a shot like crap "on purpose," it's just lazy. He just wanted to get back to enjoying the city, which is fine but he could've just done this later.

  • @enderger5308
    @enderger53084 ай бұрын

    I love how Intel somehow managed to make a slide that put the mostly single core Esports as needing an I9 while programming (which, on larger projects, is one of the best use cases for high core count due to being able to run multiple instances of the compiler in parallel) is recommended an I3. My 1 regret was going for a Rzyen 5 specifically because I compile a lot of large software and am slowed down by the limited core count.

  • @BenjaminHebert1
    @BenjaminHebert16 ай бұрын

    Was thinking to pull the trigger on a 5800X3D, and this video made me do it!

  • @kalujny

    @kalujny

    6 ай бұрын

    I rock the same CPU with an 7900 XTX, good for years to come.

  • @callmetatan
    @callmetatan6 ай бұрын

    I really love the videos where Steve flims outside of the GN studio which brings more versatility in the journalism, including taking feedback from pigeons.

  • @GamersNexus

    @GamersNexus

    6 ай бұрын

    No one else interviewed pigeons for this story. You come to us for that level of quality.

  • @americankiwi

    @americankiwi

    6 ай бұрын

    ⁠​⁠​⁠@@GamersNexusthat pigeon got out of there quick, so I don’t know if I would call that a “constructive interview”. Still although you didn’t get a constructive interview, I still thank you for asking the questions to the individuals we all wanted.

  • @GamersNexus

    @GamersNexus

    6 ай бұрын

    @@americankiwi Maybe our source just didn't want to be exposed!

  • @davidbondy2250

    @davidbondy2250

    6 ай бұрын

    Steve is such a Forgotten Realms fan he's the first nerd to learn how to cast Speak with Animals in real life.

  • @castform57

    @castform57

    6 ай бұрын

    If those pigeons were on the job with IP over avian carriers, they wouldn't release their data to just any man in the middle attack, or interview.

  • @Twn_Turbo
    @Twn_Turbo6 ай бұрын

    You know it's bad when it's gone from 'other competitors' to the full product name

  • @haunt97

    @haunt97

    6 ай бұрын

    I bet they still do not remember the i7 "platform" cpu's name

  • @ralfszemzars1885
    @ralfszemzars18856 ай бұрын

    Fucking baffles me how anything even remotely close to this quality of official document leaves a cubicle/office of a corporation, not to mention gets posted on the internet. Truly amazing times we're living in.

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