Sorry, but I strongly disagree with a few statements in the video. My wife owns the 800DE and I have an Africa Twin. I have ridden the DE often, and we now have over 3000 miles on the 800DE. The only problem with the DE to me personally is I am 6'2.5" and it's not quite big enough for me since I am used to the AT. If I didn't have the AT to compare, I would probably be happy with the DE myself. 1. This bike has very mild vibration only at 70-75 mph, and it is not bad compared to any other parallel twin. It is smoother than the AT in all areas except at this speed, and again, not at all uncomfortable. 2. The power is very good for an 800 parallel twin at any speed. Very torquey when torque is needed, including American freeway speeds, 80+. It's not a crotch rocket, and not intended to be. You can have the clanky KTM's and their unreliability. Would I like more power? Sure! One can never have too much! 3. The rotation of the throttle is the same as my AT... Arm snake comment. 4. The quick shifter is excellent upshifting, not as good on the way down but still good, as reported by many. The DE's suspension is excellent for its intended purpose. Maintenance is easy especially compared to the Transalp. The Transalp air filter access is downright ridiculous. The Transalp oil sump is another blunder by Honda along with cheesy suspension, low-hanging exhaust, and unintuitive torque, ABS... selections on the dash and I think the Transalp's profile just looks downright cheap. And I like Honda so I don't have a bone to pick. Love my AT. I agree with the statements that it is too quiet and lack of cruise control as Suzuki's biggest mistakes with the DE, along with the higher weight numbers, but riding the DE, it doesn't feel like the numbers would suggest. It rides light. Very good off-road. Looks are subjective. I was neutral about the looks of the DE at first, but it has grown on both of us to where we really like it! Do you want ugly? Look at a lot of the KTM's! Looks like a fly. The BMW looks like a pig in my opinion. Can't stand the cylinders poking out the sides... hideous! Not to mention the yuppy status🤮 As the after market ramps up this bike is going to really be a top notch performer. With exhaust, programming, and a few other mods, this might be as good off road as the Tenere, and far better on road, which it already is. The Transalp will take big bucks to catch up.

@allysharif7748

3 ай бұрын

Is your africa twin the crf1000l? I own this since new (2016) n before that the old k2 vstrom 1K. Am interested in this 800

@dwayneneufeld1696

3 ай бұрын

m My AT is a 2019 Adventure Sports. As you probably know, a little more top heavy than the standard AT. @@allysharif7748

@bobanppvc

Ай бұрын

Im 6'5 and i like 800de but its small for me compared to AT.So i will go for Africa Twin

Booked it and waiting for delivery... I test ride 850GS and this on the same day with almost same traffic. Rode about 20kms at 120 kph and 50-80 kph for about 5 Kms. 850gs was like oven hot and 800de didn't feel any heat at all.. it gave me super confident with handling and braking...

Still rocking a 2010 650dl. Just saw the 800 for the first time yesterday in my quest to find myself a new bike. Dealer had it tucked away behind a hundred KTMs 🙄. Been waiting for quality reviews to start popping up like yours. Thanks man.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. It's a bike worth looking at in this segment I think.

@2001sage

Жыл бұрын

2011 still going strong

@ReferenceFidelityComponents

7 ай бұрын

Still got a 2007 dl 650 and still feels like new to ride. Can’t sell it, it’s too familiar and too good, so made room for it and another bike 😊

I have this bike for 3 weeks now, just changed the windscreen with a taller one. Previous rider of Triumph Tiger 800 xcx. The bike is simply amazing

I really appreciate the walk around of the bikes and seeing you move them around and sitting on them. Gives me a great idea of the riding position and feel.

@VToldsMotoShow

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback and I'll be keeping this kind of footage in videos then. I appreciate it.

@darrinfry1

8 ай бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShowI’m also going to express my gratitude for you doing this. It allows us to get an understanding of the actual physical size of the bike. I am 188 cms tall and weigh 110 kgs. Not every bike fits me. I think a new KTM 1290 super adventure S will fit me nicely pretty soon😊 I am considering the new V Strom 1050, regular street version that’s available here in Canada

Awesome that you drew parallels with how the R1250GS handles! 💪 Not many reviewers do that, especially not when it comes to smaller adventure bikes, or even naked bikes etc. But they should, imho.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Here it totally makes sense and this V-Strom 800DE deserves to be placed at the same level as the master of handling.

Suzuki are good at making bland motorcycles, which I believe is a good thing for a road biased adventure bike. It’s nice to have heaps of power on tap, but this isn’t the best thing on dirt roads or proper off road work. Smooth power and comfort is what you want most of the time. Reliability and fuel range are also very important factors.

Wobley below 20 km/t and difficult to stear over 100 km/t.. might be a unbalanced frontwheel. The first Vstrom 800 I testet had a unbalanced frontwheel and had that same tendencies.. The second one I´ve tested had no issues, and the one I bouhgt is spot on too. Fantastic bike

@AbdurrahmanZedSaeed

Жыл бұрын

Or broken wheel bearings

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I believe that above 100 km/h it's rather the effect of a 21" front rim.

The feeling while turning you describe is very similar to what Honda Transalp XL650V feels like :) Great video, thank you!

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed ;)

If this had cruise control and tubeless wheels it would be a T700 killer, even though it weighs 23kg more (both without fuel) than the Tenere

@collectivelogic

Жыл бұрын

That tubed tire hurts my soul!

@chadkline4268

Жыл бұрын

Crybabies 😊

@collectivelogic

Жыл бұрын

Just a huge miss for 90%-98% of the miles this thing is intended for.

@grantleyteakle634

Жыл бұрын

Agree. Did here someone say, a throttlelock, and gunk in the tubes pretty much solves those problems.

@Jungleland33

Жыл бұрын

100% I'd be reaching for my wallet if it had those 2 things. Hope the big S is listening.

You've got me subbed!

@VToldsMotoShow

6 ай бұрын

I'm glad to hear that and hope that you'll enjoy the next videos too.

just bought an 800DE.... the only things i don't like is the "parking" light key position, and first gear is a little high for off-road. other than that, the upshifting is awesome (downshifting not so much but still works ok), the ride is great, handles good, the weight is good (even with both side bags on), seat is comfortable, the ABS/Power mode/traction control mode work seemlessly and all have induvidual adjustments that work great.

My Saturday's treat 😅

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

At your service! :)

Nice review if you have chance please compare this to the transalp 750

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and I will do that perhaps even later this year.

Great content mate! When will you do a middle weight adv comparison video ranking the modern models? That would be cool coming from your perspective 😎

It’s actually more like the 850 GS in lots of ways, but I get the point and I think you are right.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Oh, it may be too - right! I'd say that V-Strom has an edge in performance and handling between 20-80 km/h (12-50 mph). On the other hand in terms of equipment, V-Strom has not much to be able to compete with F850GS. Both are pretty comfy though. I believe that F850GS needs a refresh very quickly to stay really competitive in the segment. Thanks for bringing that up!

high speed too stable means trail is too long. However this is good for off-road riding on loose surfaces. you can fix ir by dropping bike down on the forks or and increasing preload of the spring on the shock.3mm at a time.

Very nice review ! When are you going to test the Transalp ?

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I just did and my full review is coming on Saturday the 1st of July '23 along with some big statements there. Stay tuned as it's one definitely worth seeing.

Tooop Review!!! 👏🍀🍾✌️👍✨️ I had the same feeling testing it Greetings from South Tyrol Willy

@VToldsMotoShow

8 ай бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad that you like it. Cheers!

Thanks for the heads up about the peg vibes. For some reason many many reviewers don't even mention engine vibes. They are telling us want the marketing want and not what I would find out about after riding after buying.

@VToldsMotoShow

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's why I'm on a mission to simply share all my feelings when riding these motorcycles. I'm looking for that myself when considering many products and it's harder and harder to find nowadays.

@dwayneneufeld1696

4 ай бұрын

Most don't say anything about the vibration because it's not worth mentioning. I have the DE. Great bike!

Do you plan to test the new Transalp 750 ? By the way, I test drove the 800DE and I agree with you on the buzzyness of footpegs. A negative also thing is a large amount of heat comes from engine during traffic to tour legs, quite noticable in warm climate countries.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I've already done so and my review of the new Transalp should be ready for Saturday the 1st of July 2023.

Hey there. Just a question that you may have answered but I couldn't find it. Is there an option for cruise control > and is the seat comfortable for longer distances ? 😀

@alexevers9309

9 ай бұрын

🇳🇱In The Netherlands i asiel the dealer and he gold me There is not a good working cruise option .

Bikes in my stable....T7...DRZE400....and I am ready to put money down on a 2024 DE800, it didn't take a test ride...although I did try one out...briefly....it was the new engine.....and the fact that it is a Suzuki. Competition is alive and well in the motorcycle industry....just what it needed to build state of the art bikes.....just wait to see what Suzuki does with this bike....keep in mind the DR line up....Supermoto, enduro, and street versions....I suspect the DR will be the same in some fashion...different versions, different wheels, and an engine used in other layouts...as in the GSX version....just like Yamaha CP2 engine....this is future unfolding before our eyes from Japan......almost impossible to find fault...although my right leg was getting a little hot!

I❤ V-Strom 800DE

I really like this new Suzuki 800 DE but the only reason I haven't bought one yet is the lack of cruise control. I feel like this needs to be a standard feature on these modern bikes designed for travel. Also I feel like the business model KTM has adapted where the bikes are capable but you have to pay a dealer to unlock the cruise control feature that is already built into the bike is very sleezy and anti-consumer. I ride a KTM 2 stroke dirt bike but I hate what they are doin to the adventure bike buyers.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I agree with your perspective on KTM's policy. It just doesn't look good. It's the opposite of gaining customers' trust and loyalty I think. But they do watch and listen, so they'll likely... just don't tease us at all and get rid of such trials for testing some features. Or who knows. About the cruise control on a V-Strom 800DE - yes, it's strange that there's no option. I expect them to add it at some point or maybe with a model refresh if there will be any along the way.

@Happypillz

Жыл бұрын

Man you must do lots of straight highway runs cause I live in Canada with straight long highways, and I barely use my cruise in my truck. Having said that I ride on mostly side roads and hardly maintain the same speed for a long time. I honestly don't think CC is such a need. I can easily hold the throttle since its ride by wire. *shrug*

@dracer35

Жыл бұрын

@@Happypillz Not sure if you are weirdly trying to flex or make fun? I mostly ride off-road but I have ridden the Trans-America Trail several times and that 2,100 mile ride back home at the end would be nicer with factory cruise control to be able to relax the right hand every once in a while during the 32+ hours of riding back home. Just because you don't use it doesn't mean it's not helping in some situations.

@Happypillz

Жыл бұрын

@@dracer35Its clear that none of the bikes in this price range are yet to have CC. I am not willing to pay 3-4k for that feature on the next model up. I also don't ride for long period, I stop and take a break every hour or so. I average close to 20k a year on motorcycles. I already have 2.5k on my Vstrom I owned it for less then a month. Again you want CC buy a bike that 3-4k more or 7k more and you should be set so I don't see why you are whinging so much. 1st world problems. You could go buy ShitMoto err CFMoto it comes with CC for a bit more then the 800

@dracer35

Жыл бұрын

@@Happypillz the Aprilia Tuareg has factory cruise control and that bikes MSRP is $11,999 which is only $650 more than the $11,349 for the 800 DE. That's not 3-4k more like you claim. Bikes in this class and price range can easily have CC without needing to go up to a different model. That's fine that you don't ride for more than an hour before taking a break. Some of us ride for several hours before stopping and do way more than your "close to 20k miles a year." I don't see why you feel the need to try to bash me. Do you want a pat on the back of something? Do you need someone to tell you that you are the best coolest most hardcore rider in the history of motorcycles because you don't use CC? Maybe after this conversation you will no longer feel insecure about yourself and can hold your head up high as you are toying along on your Vstrom without CC. Have a good day sir or mam.

i really want this to be a great bike as id like to consider one when i stop riding sports bikes, maybe it should have been a triple instead im not a fan of parallel twins it feels like going back to my teens and that was a long time ago, still super jealous of the city environment you have to ride in though. awesome

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

These new parallel twins are a whole new thing. What for example KTM have done with 890 Adventure (or any other 890 from them) is beyond my understanding but these engines are simply stunning. I'd say that better in almost every way than V2 engines except for sound (still quite close). And yeah, there's a Tiger 900 with a 3-cylinder inline engine that does the job quite well too.

Bought a 2024 Vstrom 800RE, replacing a 2014 Yamaha Super Tenere ES, which I loved but was getting too heavy for my 69 years. The Vstrom is great for around town, twisty roads, and non-highway touring. The Vstorm is very maneuverable at low speeds, in the garage, and is a joy on curves. On the highway, its buzzy over 65 MPH and you feel it in your feet and hands. It does seem to level out a bit over 75 mph, but the buzz is still there. Is it touring bike? - definitely, if you are not spending 8 hours on a US interstate. If so, then get a bigger bike with cruise control. The seat is narrow, hard, and okay for an hour or two without a break. This is not the motorcycle I would take for an iron butt; it would be the bike I'd want for a comfortable daily rider that could be pressed into service for a two-day trip down the coast.

I hope you get to test the RE also and see if it's better on road. It seems to be, on paper at least. For people who would dismiss this bike because it lacks CC, there is a very good solution from MCCruise. I used to have one of their products on my old v strom 650 and it was really good

Świetne review! Teraz Transalp 750

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Dzięki, Transalp już w najbliższą sobotę!

Well being on a 650xt for about a year I have managed to test the new 800. Really like your videos and the bike as well. Unbalanced wheel in the front? Probably, bit it is fixable thing. All in all I do like the new version and agree with all of its ugliness. For the price-could not get a better bike. Btw, have you heard about the stock 😊800de rally version?

@olivataggiasca

10 ай бұрын

Rally version?

are you experiencing the ~5000 RPM vibrations that many reviewers are reporting? theyre saying its not bad but noticeable. Im still buying the 800DE regardless though - just curious. thank you

@VToldsMotoShow

10 ай бұрын

Yes, I believe I mentioned that in the video and the vibrations coming through the foot pegs are insane at higher RPM. I'd look for DIY solutions to fight it though.

I like your camo trousers

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, they do a pretty decent job with leg protectors underneath. I'd looks for this style just with inbuilt protectors though as mine have to be worn separately.

I have this bike and yes, I totally agree with what you say. Everything. Comparisons too. I also find out that vibrations in the handlebars disappeared after 400km while on the footpegs (right one mostly) are quieter. That made me think that the problem is the exhaust. I will probably change it cause the sound of the bike feels a little blunt. I'm super happy with this bike and I LOVE how it looks. It doesn't have a face! That's awesome. It's not like those bikes for big children (yes honda, yes triumph), this bike is a tool. A good one.

@turinhorse

10 ай бұрын

are you experiencing the ~5000 RPM vibrations that many reviewers are reporting? theyre saying its not terrible but noticeable. Im still buying this bike regardless though - just curious

@Nulrom

10 ай бұрын

@@turinhorse yes, the vibration is there and the first 500km is scary. You really feel it. Then it's less and less. After first service rises up again and you understand is transmitted from the chain and the tensioning of the chain from factory is a little too much. Suzuki's mechanic explained to me the bike likes the chain a little softer than what it's said on their manual. Right now I feel some little vibrations in pegs and basically no more on the bars. When I have boots I don't feel anything particularly annoying, I can ride hours.

great review, very interesting points about the handlebar, filtering, cornering, etc! I tried all the middleheight ADV's and the 800DE is my favourite one yet... how about a T7 video? :)

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I see I've got a competitor there ;). Yamaha Tenere 700 should be available for me around the middle of July if the weather is appropriate. I'm very curious. Cheers!

What do You think about the Fantic 450 Rallye?

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

This would be something new to me.

Very valuable review, how in your eyes compare to ktm 890 or even transalp xl750(if you going test ride it)

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I've already tested the new Transalp and it along with this V-Strom 800DE are very, very close performance-wise. V-Strom 800DE is more comfortable while Transalp also handles well at higher speeds. Suzuki is more than 10% more expensive but overall I expect these two to compete very directly with each other. KTM 890 is a weapon that made me fully wet when riding it. It's an adrenaline generator and literally gets very hot due to heat management issues. It handles more like a Transalp (better than a V-Strom below 20 km/h, worse at 20-80 km/h and then again better above 80 km/h) and isn't as comfortable as a V-Strom 800DE suspension-wise. It's so crazy though that it makes it super tempting. The one I was riding already had some issue with front suspension or some bearing out there. KTM living up to its legend. I'll be getting back with my direct comparisons of all these around the end of the year or in early 2024.

@GuemmiBiker48

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow I agree but I think we should more compare 800 de and Transalp with the new ktm 790. The 890 is way more powerful. Even the price is not the same at all.

@GuemmiBiker48

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow I've also tested both Suzuki and Transalp and I completely agree. But after 4000/5000 rpm the Transalp become a Rocket and it feels more dangerous for me than the Suzuki. The Suzuki is very comfortable but if you take the highway it's really annoying you take too much wind it's insupportable

@Tadamagicsky

Жыл бұрын

@@GuemmiBiker48 I would imagine 790 and 890 adventure will be very similar

@Tadamagicsky

Жыл бұрын

@VToldsMotoShow I had a chance teset both back to back and must to admit suzuki new vstrom feel great, but hoda new transalp definitely winning for a price tag. Can you imagine is suzuki would be the same price as honda

How do you compare its handling over 80km/h with the Versys 650's ?

@VToldsMotoShow

11 ай бұрын

I could answer that specifically but until there are different than stock tires installed on a Versys 650, I would not recommend riding the bike at all as it's a serious safety hazard with its stock Dunlop tires. If they were reliable and safe, it would be possible to better assess Versys' cornering capabilities. I'm not a fan of Versys 650 overall.

@n-elia

11 ай бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow Thank you for answering!

around 13 minutes, could you go more into this perhaps in a future video and compared to a Tenere 1200 please? I ask because i am looking for a very very very smooth bike, not electric, (I know). I read that the Suzuki has a NEW *patented* *double* *counter* *balancer*. I read that the Tenere 1200 also has a double counter balancer of some type ; could you go deep dive on this ? thanks man

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I'm afraid that I don't remember that much of riding a Tenere 1200. I did have a brief test ride on one close to 10 years ago I believe so it being that long ago, makes me not remember precisely my impressions.

I have one of these and there is no vibration at all. Not sure what is going on with yours.

Did you check the air pressure in the front? Never trust a Dealer with air pressure. thanks

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Nope, I don't really inspect these bikes this way. Yet another reason to put tire pressure monitoring systems on all of them by default.

When he mentioned direct competitors he didnt mention the tenere 700. Are they that disimilar?

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I'm about to find out pretty soon actually but I consider Tenere 700 to be a more of an enduro motorcycle while V-Strom 800DE is to be a street bike with bigger wheels.

A lot of complaints here, maybe because it’s not a GS plays a big role this review. He’s knowledgeable but serious bias against the Suzuki

I also experienced vibration, at ca 5000 rpm, when testing the bike. It was a tingling in my feets from the foot pegs and it was actually so much vibration that it’s a showstopper for me. It was very noticeable vibrations with my boots. At the highways where I live it´s around 70-75 MPH, I believe right in the "vibration rpm" of ca 5000-5500 RPM? Very unfortunate, because IMO the bike was otherwise great and also great looking bike, to boot.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Maybe there is some DIY way of adding so much padding, tape, cushioning to those foot pegs to eliminate the problem. Still, Suzuki should've done this job for us.

@mhult5873

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow Hi! Thanks for your reply! Yes, could perhaps be a DIY-solution. But for me it´s a showstopper for buying until Suzuki fixes this issue, (even more so if I would buy a a brand new bike and not a used one). Maybe it´s different from different individual bikes, because some people don´t seem to notice this vibration as much and for others it´s very clear and profound vibration. Sorry for any language-error, since English is not my native language =) Thank you again for all your videos! Take care! BR

Can you do an honest review about the new xsr900?

@VToldsMotoShow

10 ай бұрын

It's not exactly my type of motorcycle, so I'd likely simply not get the idea of it too well.

I like it!

@LTLT900

Жыл бұрын

Me too.

Good looking bike. Slow turning at high speed is due to the big front wheel. Can't beat physics.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I also believe that it may be the most direct reason of the resistance at high speeds. Thanks for the input!

Hi! Can u also review the transalp 750

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

It’s coming tomorrow.

@noybitv4583

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow great! Will wait for it then :) kudos for always giving honest reviews

Mi piacerebbe sapere se il motore scalda le gambe e se la sella è comoda e non dura, grazie.

@peppeamerica3051

Жыл бұрын

Ti rispondo io..appena provata proprio ieri..allora..ti posso dire si...scalda la gamba destra non poco...sopratutto in città.. poi..ci sn pochi vibrazioni intorno 5.000 giri ma poca cosa..ma la cosa che più mi turba poi ognuno può anche pensare diversamente lo pesata personalmente e Con 3 litri nella tanica ha fermato la lancetta a 221kg..ci siderando che la tanica ha una capacità di 20 litri ti lascio immaginare a quanto arriva con il pieno.. consumi...con 3 litri ho effettuato 55 km...e una moto tuttofare..diciamo 60/40 on off road..il qs va benissimo in salita ma a scalare risulta un po contrastato.. velocità finale raggiunto 190km 'reali ' da GPS... per il resto nulla da dire .bellissima

@acadenacci

Жыл бұрын

@@peppeamerica3051 grazie e la sella è comoda ? Tra questa e la transalp quale preferisci?

@peppeamerica3051

Жыл бұрын

@@acadenacci bella domanda la tua..anch io mi trovo in una situazione simile dopo averle provate entrambe, mah..che dire ..il la transalp ha del suo..peso inferiore..(si sente la diferenza Con la v strom) sopratutto da fermo, consumi migliori, il sound più accattivante, linea meno spigolosa ..rapporti più lunghi a mio avviso un 80/20 on-off road..la v strom invece ha del suo..una linea più spigolosa..motore più pronto ai bassi (sembra essere una 1000) ciclistica migliore..sella più confortevole..(ci ho fatto 80km non stop senza lamentarmi) non so cosa consigliarti..tranne di provarli entrambe.. e poi a quel punto capirai da solo quale soddisfa le tue esigenze..se fai parecchio autostrada e poco off allora honda..se invece fai più strade secondarie e più off road con la suzuki senza altro ti diverti di piu.

Can you make a review on a ktm 1050 adventure ? Please

@VToldsMotoShow

6 ай бұрын

They don't make these anymore so I believe I wouldn't be able to ride one.

How can we cut the weight on this beast? Way way too heavy for specs...there is a bolt on outer frame, stock skid plate is attached to...looks like it can be removed as it has no other function other than mount that skid plate...

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't count on much savings anywhere. It's a big bike with a fairly large engine.

It's difficult to understand the 17" rear wheel.. probably the only bike in the market with this strange set (17" / 21").

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I also have no clue about manufacturers' choice in regard to the rear rim size.

Just for knowkedge purposes, Actually BMW copied that upper mudguard from Suzuki's DR Big 750 from the 80's or 90's not sure. 1988 maybe.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

So it's Suzuki's revenge now!

@valf2886

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow I guess so they're taking back that duck mudguard as we called it when we were kids. Lol

I looked, I read, I watched KZread and I test rode. I bought a GS. Makes me officially an old fart. Love the bike though, can’t help it. Maybe I should have tried the Av-Strom

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

So the question now is which GS is that.

@chrisoz4929

Жыл бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow a standard GS, triple black and a bunch of options. I’m excited like a child waiting for Christmas

Big Rock Moto nie mógł się nachwalić tego motocykla - zwłaszcza za zachowanie w terenie. Szkoda tylko, że Suzuki pozowało tempomatu.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

W teren bałbym się nim jechać jak każdym innym dużym klocem. Moim dawnym V-Stromem 1000, który ważył w zasadzie tyle samo zresztą, wybrałem się raz i było fajnie... Aż nie było i nastąpiła gleba - opony oczywiście szosowe, więc w pełni profesjonalny offroadowy zestaw po mojej stronie. Szkoda sprzętów, a później jest jeszcze większy płacz jak się plastiki uszkodzą. Tu akurat bez szkód, bo były gmole, a i podłoże miękkie: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXh2sZisZpfWYMY.html

The KTM Adventure 890 is currently €500 cheaper that this Suzuki. Is it a no brainer?

@gislisigurdsson1092

Жыл бұрын

..mm well before buying, one would reflect on reliability of the brands before deciding $500 more or less

@slakk5093

Жыл бұрын

I’d honestly take the Suzuki if I was keeping long term and taking on long trips. Take the ktm if I didn’t plan on keeping for more than 2 years

@benniewenniger2075

Жыл бұрын

You probable mean the KTM 790 adventure , made in China.

@_Corsa

Жыл бұрын

No brainer for me to stay away from ktm products after seeing all the sh!t my friend went through with his new 890, had to give him a ride home twice on my GS.

@keepitsimple8880

Жыл бұрын

@@benniewenniger2075 The 790 is €2k cheaper that the Suzuki

Tell us what you think compared to aprilia Tuareg?

@VToldsMotoShow

10 ай бұрын

There would be a lot to say. They’re of quite different styles.

this or the tiger850?

@VToldsMotoShow

11 ай бұрын

I haven't ridden the 850 so cannot really tell but I couldn't live with the 'face' of this V-Strom 800DE. So ugly to me. Or I'd have to build something custom to be able to accept it.

I bought one last week, on my first ride I was impressed with the bike's performance. maybe you need to spend a lot more money or get a sports bike. Whether you are going on a long touring ride or going off the road it will do it with authority, really you need a sports bike.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I'm comparing this V-Strom 800DE to its direct rivals. It's got nothing to do with mixing segments and types of motorcycles. No one will tell you that a quicker bike is a better one but stating that a given one accelerates quicker or is more flexible at certain speeds is a useful information in my honest opinion. To me it actually matters.

It seems we ride a different bike 😂

Very nice review wow. Can i ask a question. This is a new generation motobike lots of positive reviews. So why suzuki use tube type tires?? They were in the past history. So why? Tubeless ıs more safe comfortable? What is the advantages or disadvantages of tube type tires? Its 400.000€ here you can buy 2 or 3 ferrari with this money i think. We are in huge economic crisis.(Turkei) So enjoy your rides!

@Checkpat

Жыл бұрын

True off road bikes have tube type tires because with a tubeless tire if you hit the rim on a stone and bend it on the edge you will loose air and not be able to keep on riding.

@cenkgonen4485

Жыл бұрын

@@Checkpat understood its for offroad rides. Thanks

@MrEtnorb

Жыл бұрын

@@cenkgonen4485 I think the vast majority of riders would benefit from the safety and convenience of tubeless wheels and would hardly test the dirt limits of this bike. Also it’s a budgetary decision, get a new market going then release a premium version in a few years with CControl/tubeless etc and riders will trade up. I was reading some comments re the Transalp, people are saying the same things but the majority express great delight in its release even though it’s an 80/20 road/dirt bike. It’s all about the “dream”

@Checkpat

Жыл бұрын

@@MrEtnorb Totally agree At first it’s a budget decision And on middle term it will allow to launch an upgrade bike But for the moment if you ask Suzuki they will tell tou that it’s the best tires for offroad bikes

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Good point about bending a rim, however, it would have to be an extremely unfortunate hit to bend a rim so much that air would run out of the tire. I believe that it's mostly a cost-saving choice to put tube tires despite even the cheapest bikes have them. In the end perhaps a smart way to communicate a saving here. Tubeless ones require fully sealed rims if they're to be spoked, and those are more expensive than not fully sealed rims as far as I know.

I think most of the adventure bikes you are testing are to big for real life adventure.. If you are going abroad exploring poor countries you need it to be fairly lightweight,, Not to complicated.. something a local mechanic in e.g. Africa, parts of Asia or south America can fix.. Heck make it carburated... A Lightly used Suzuki DR650S with only 43.5 hp but tons of low end torque,, and a wet weight of 162kg fits the bill. Yamaha gets the point.. to my knowledge the only adventure bike from Yamaha is based on the 689cc twin 270 degree crank engine with 73.6 hp.. A very tractable engine for off-roading.. (not to over-sqaure).. A wet weight of 203kg.. 21 inch wheel up front and an 18 inch wheel in the back and 210 mm front wheel travel..

@kgill5

Жыл бұрын

Obviously based on the comments, no one bike does it all. Be all, do all, fails all. I like Suzuki and what they bring to the market place. Love my dr650 for its simplicity and value as a dual sport bike. For more adventure touring, this new bike is on my list.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

If one's looking for remote offroad adventures, then this makes a lot of sense. Now, once we land on a 1000 km highway in Germany, US or anywhere else, this is where those fatties do much better than lightweight enduros. I'm just thinking that there's way more of us on those highways that on gravel roads. Thanks for sharing!

@greyfisher3897

10 ай бұрын

I have to say your idea that a bike be less complicated for poor country mechanics to fix for you is a bit odd. First of all these bikes don't break down anymore....as long as the rider is paying attention to the maintenance. If you are going through poor countries with (simple) mechanics, and you are not one yourself, then maybe you shouldn't be going on such an adventure....I don't think the weight of your bike is going to make any difference to your success. The weight of a bike is basically related to the engine size so pick the engine and accept the characteristics of the frame its in....If the point of your comment is to suggest an antiquated DR650 compared to a modern DE800 tells me you might just be stuck in the past...motorcycles evolve and its happening right before your eyes......In my view....the new ADV market is part of the evolution....but the true evolution is the ENGINE.....

What about off road

@VToldsMotoShow

11 ай бұрын

Yes

I've noticed that motorcycles that make you sit upright, are less comfortable over time. I forget to use my core, and end up holding on to bars like my life depends on it. Also my spine ends up taking much of the hits, versus having a hip pivot for energy dissipation. In addition to wide handle bars, that could be what you're noticing. If you haven't already, try to learn forward a bit and hug it more with your legs, and use your core and see if that helps with long term wrist comfort. It may help in it's willingness to lean in higher speeds.

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

I get what you're saying and it's correct that sitting this way doesn't stimulate your back muscles a lot. However, it depends a lot on the positioning of a handlebar too. There's a solution to that too which I use myself for other reasons - it's a stiff back protector that not only protects your back but by being stiff, sort of forces you to straighten up and it just feels good then. Thanks a lot for sharing these observations.

I have the 800 DE and it is too hot on the right leg!

Meant to say DE will be the same in some fashion.....in my last comment....oops.

21:18😂😂

zank you zo much for deez Seigfreid!

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

You izzz welcome!

This is a street bike review. Please review it as an ADV bike doing ADV things. If your going to do ADV reviews, it is important to take it off pavement/tarmac.

@Badlander87X

Жыл бұрын

It's not a great off roader it's a dressed up road bike to look like it would be good off road

@FernitoAM

Жыл бұрын

Many other reviwers disagree with you, including Ian from big rock moto. Of course is not a ktm 890r, but that doesn't mean it cannot do the offroad than most people do on these bikes. What is your experience, dis you ride it off road and failed to follow you? What terrain?

@Badlander87X

Жыл бұрын

@@FernitoAM few guys I know had taken out demo models and done a ton of gravel trails and some sand dunes and they found it was very soft suspension even at its firmest and I trust there information as they do mostly off road enduro and mx aswell as one of my friends been a very well known irish moterbike road racer . The list from best to worst that he gave me was tenere world raid then the transalp then the strom 800 and kawasaki klr tieing

@FernitoAM

Жыл бұрын

@@Badlander87X fair enough, and for off road enduro riders, mx riders and road racers, I agree is probably not a good bike. But that is still missing the point, in my opinion. Thanks for your feedback!

@Badlander87X

Жыл бұрын

@@FernitoAM my experience in riding off road was sand dunes on a madmaxed varadero 1000 so I'm use to big hefty bikes offroad. If anything if anyone wants an off road bike style bike to start off road adventures my view would be the base model tenere 700 with the 16 liter tank it has better handling and is much more forgiving and much easier to pick up on your own

My meaning = A HALF baked bike, with stinged out tech. solutions.... No CC, No tubeless..... No propper windscreen.......Too heavy...... And heavily overpriced ( in my part of the world )..... But - let's see what YOU have to say about it ( I've just turned this clip ON ) 🤔🤔 And WHY the F... is it called a "V" Strom ?!? - Where is the V ? ☝☝😆😆 ..... Well - a GOOD review ! 😬😬👍🏻👍🏻

@Happypillz

Жыл бұрын

V always stood for versatile not v twin. I own a 800DE. What do you ride?

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

Good one, made me smile actually ;). I haven't thought about the "V" heritage here. Not sure if this is way Suzuki had in mind with the V-Strom family but I admit that to me this letter along with a V-shaped engine has always been a part of a "V-Strom". Coming from a former long-time V-Strom 1000 owner. That's also a bit where my own "V-Told" comes from written the way it is. Yeah, it can get personal with Suzuki here! :)

@sandwaves5642

Жыл бұрын

​@@Happypillz Ye - it's good to have imagination...🙄🙄🙄 ....u coul, at least, READ about this name🤷🏻‍♂️

@Happypillz

Жыл бұрын

@@sandwaves5642 What fucking Joe Biden Gibbrish is this?

@marceliszp4803

Жыл бұрын

depends on the point of view. In Poland, it is almost the same price as the Tenere 700, but the Suzuki has a more powerful engine, better suspension with more travel and full adjustment, a much lower center of gravity that makes it easier to drive off-road and easier to lift. Bolt-on subframe. quickshifter, bigger tank, traction control. I don't see any element in which the T7 is better and I tested both also in offroad

I love how these street bike reviewers review ADV bikes as street bikes for the city. City riding is not the intended purpose for the 800DE.

@VToldsMotoShow

9 ай бұрын

Oh, city riding is not the intended purpose for the 800DE? Why is it not? What's the purpose of such a motorcycle then and which one can be used in the city?

@jonwoodworker

9 ай бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow Well, for starters it's sold and designed to be an ADVENTURE motorcycle. The shared engine GSX8S is the proper bike to review for city riding. An adventure platform isn't designed to be great at anything, but to have the ability to do everything. Maybe you don't understand that there are purposely built motorcycles? Maybe you wash your dishes in the oven? Maybe your the one that's right and I should take my Goldwing to the Enduro trails and my 300XCW down the Autobahn?

@George_Zip

8 ай бұрын

@@jonwoodworker The manufacturers know darned well that adventure bikes are also good for city riding, and that lots of people will buy them to “appear” to be in the adventure lifestyle but never get much off road. I’ve owned several and they are outstanding city bikes, many of the adventure bike characteristics are ideal for city features like rough or damaged roads, narrow spaces between walls or cars, they have quick response and turning to to deal with multiple obstacles and hazards, and, if so inclined, suspension that lends itself to “urban short cuts…” Tests such as this assess lots of elements of the bike important to an adventure rider, I’m well aware as I also have such terrain on my doorstep and multiple bikes to use there.. stop trolling..

Ciao amico in poche parole hai detto che la moto non ha motore... Si bello silenzioso ma ha poca potenza

@VToldsMotoShow

11 ай бұрын

The engine pulls but it's not something that would excite.

@clamils9138

11 ай бұрын

@@VToldsMotoShow grazie per la tua risposta ... Lo proverò esattamente tra 3 giorni. In compenso ho provato il motore della rivale Transalp, non mi é piaciuto, molto male non ha potenza in basso. Ma mi dici qualé un motore che ti é piaciuto 800 cc?

its a bit heavey and not impressed with the build quality

@VToldsMotoShow

11 ай бұрын

Build quality seems to be like in other Japanese motorcycles I think.

Great bike .. but horrible colours . Looks like an Easter egg .

@djrandizz

Жыл бұрын

Debatable. In the sun that yellow and blue reminds me of the blue angels. The grey and yellow is probably the classiest way you can have yellow on a bike imo

@australianadv

Жыл бұрын

I love the colours!

@tyrkia1234

Жыл бұрын

@@australianadv me too, i own this bike in same color

@VToldsMotoShow

Жыл бұрын

There are some others to choose from that are calmer.