I had a T7 and sold it for the 800DE;i liked very much the tenere but the height of the seat when you often stop (I'm 1m79) was tiring,the seat was hard too ;I prefer the look of the T7,I like the engine and the praticability of sevicing the bike; I tried the 800DE and found it more suitable for me:seat is comfy,I can flat foot ,engine is as good with a little bit less character;in conclusion ,for me the DE is better for me ,it's an easy going bike and all purpose one

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

@bobbyhancock3347

Ай бұрын

Which felt like it had more power?

Everybody says the V in V-strom stands for V twin but it's been stated by Suzuki it stands for versatil, and I think Suzuki nailed it with the V-strom 800de. Don't forget there are two other road focused V-strom 800 models, the RE and SE. Peter, thank you for this review! I don't believe I've seen a T7 vs 800de only review yet. If my profile pic didn't give it away, I went with the 800de and couldn't be happier.

@alphajed7700

24 күн бұрын

Both are used to be V-twin

Helpful Yamaha vs Suzuki comparison, thanks for the video. Looking forward to more 2024 motorcycles and more comparison videos!

Hats off to your knowledge (technical and practical stuff) on such a wide range of bikes - it's truly amazing, and that's what makes your videos so interesting to watch and learn from!

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words and support.

Great comparison videos! Thanks for the hard work!

Well this vstrom 800de in you're video is mine since last week thank you Macleans

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

That's awesome! I was told it might be sold soon. That's why I grabbed this video while I could! Congratulations! Great bike! Enjoy it!

I watched your video, and it was great! The comparison between the V-Strom and the Tenere was excellent. After considering my options, I decided to go with the V-Strom as I found it more suitable for two people when my wife wants to join me on an adventure. In the future, I plan to upgrade the tires, skid plate, and add crash guards and bark-busters. My main focus will be riding back and forest service roads, so I didn't need an enduro-style bike or a more dirt-focused adventure bike. My previous ride was a KLR, so either of these two were a step up for me, lol.

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

That's awesome. I think I would choose the same as you if you're thinking about regularly taking a passenger. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and thanks for watching!

It's worth taking an off-road ride before passing a verdict. The 800de has more suspension travel than the T7 and is fully adjustable front and rear. It also has a lower center of gravity. I tested both and the T7 was bad for off-road driving form me, the 800de was very good. On the road, it is known that the Suzuki is better, it has a more dynamic engine at high speeds and a comfortable seat. For me suzuki combines easier offroad driving and better on road driving. yamaha looks better. I did 3k km on the Suzuki, mainly offroad. I would most like to have Desert X but it is beyond my budget

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

I love hearing from so many of you who have ridden both and have experiences to share. Thanks for contributing here!

Being the owner of the 800DE I have heard the Tenere does not have the plush ride and is somewhat rougher over rough terrain. Tiring if you are on the trail all day! Highway power, and 80 mph cruising comfort are excellent on the 800DE with the bigger windscreen. The range is also important on the highway rides and BDRs, so the DE has the advantage again. As the review implied, if the bike will be used to go cross country and off-road camp, IMO, the DE is the bike to have. If you live close to where you want to ride, the Tenere might be the one to go with, but the DE does hide its weight well so... The DE has been a fantastic bike and has a quality feel to it! Very happy with it!

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts!

Hey! I’m wondering if you could make video about the new Ninja 650 compared to a 2023 and see which is better and how they compare

have a deposit on a 2024 matte steel green 800de over here in saskatchewan. my 2017 650xt is a good bike, but i miss how my klr handles on gravel and fire roads ect. hope the 800de with the 21 front gives me similar handling.

I am not skilled to change the flat tube tyres, so none of those bikes are options for me. Thanks for this very good review, and it would be great to see ktm 790 vs. aprilia tuareg :) review.

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

I talked to the dealer about the KTM 790 immediately after I filmed this video, so stay tuned because we're making plans!

800DE is more comfortable but weighs 50lbs more (might as well ride an African Twin) T7 is too tall and top heavy; Neither bike has cruise control. Toureg has cruise but cost more. Transalp no cruise but lower center of gravity. A lot of tough choices..

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

KTM 790 Adventure. Lower seat height, light weight, lower centre of gravity, comes with cruise control. 😉

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

On paper the Africa twin is actually lighter at 226kg . The F900GS is definitely worth a look now. Being 219kg

@davidgrunklee8407

2 ай бұрын

​@@PeterLoweOnenope....CHINA.

V strom 800de was my new bike choice best of the mid weight 50 50 you can't bet it

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

Better than a F900GS ?

Still such a difficult choice for me as I approach my 40th birthday. If I got the T7, I wouldn’t need my DR650. If I got the V-Strom, I would definitely need to keep the DR.

@bfe671

3 ай бұрын

I plan on buying the 800 and keeping my dirt bike. Nothing wrong with having multiple bikes as long as they serve very different purposes

@ComfyDadShoes

3 ай бұрын

@@bfe671 100% agree

That T7 needs me.

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

Haha. Go get it done!

Sorry but you are wrong...the v strom 800de is more off road focused other than the tires and i owned a t7 and thos factory tires are also road bias tires as well and the v strom has better suspension.. a 17 in rear wheel means nothing as the klr650,all BMWs and the Honda xr650l all have 17 in rear wheels

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

I don't think I'm wrong. I laid out my case. The heavier weight, *more* road biased tires, the road biased seat that limits movement. The larger diameter rear wheel *is* more similar to the best off road motocross bikes. I made my case to support my opinion. You made your case to support your opinion. I respect that. There's no right or wrong with this. We each made our case. It's all good. There will be people who agree and disagree with each of us.

@gabrielkopp2036

5 ай бұрын

@@PeterLoweOne all I'm saying is the vstrom is built for off road.. I owned a t7 and it's extremely top heavy and I sold it and bought the 800de and even though on paper it's heavy than the t7 it actually feels 30lbs lighter.. and the 800de does not have tubeless tires.. seats and tires can are always changed.. I apologize for the term wrong.. the stock t7 tires are garbage off road all adv bikes come with road focused tires

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

@@gabrielkopp2036 I never claimed that either of these bikes were ON road bikes. They're adventure bikes. Both made to handle on and off road scenarios. I think you'll find that you and I are more closely aligned than you think. It's my personal opinion that the T7 is the better off road bike for the reasons that I list, and it's your opinion that the V-Strom is the better off-road bike for the reasons that you list. I'm fine with both of our reasoning. I think you have a point, and I think I have a point.

@evr-mr3cp

Ай бұрын

FYI the XR650L has an 18” rear wheel, I’ve owned one. Seriously considering the 800de so I appreciate your feedback on it vs the T7.

Both these bikes have tubes

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

I was reading the tires during my filming. So either the Canadian edition version for 2024 (this paint scheme) doesn't, or I misread the tire. I'll double check next time I'm there, but I feel like I wouldn't mis-read that.

@Jimo368

5 ай бұрын

@@PeterLoweOne The tires can be tubeless and it still has a tubes, the valve stem is a dead giveaway

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

@@Jimo368 fair enough. I'll double check.

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

​@@PeterLoweOneI don't think you can get tubed tyres anymore. I think they just become tubed once a tube is installed.

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

A bmw doesn't have tubes and is lighter than the DE being 219kg

The Tenere is looking a bit dated,if you put it against the Aprilia Tuareag 660 it's totally outclassed, more tech and HP, it's real rival actually, the V-Strom is better compared to the CF-MOTO 800MT in my humble opinion.

@PeterLoweOne

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. It's funny. One will say it's dated and another will say they prefer the classic look etc. I've had people describe the Tenere as a modern day KLR, and some riders like the retro look with the more modern bike. As far as the CF Moto vs. V-Strom, I really like the V-Strom, but I have yet to be able to take a proper close look at the CF-Moto, so I'd like to be able to do that this year.

Honda Transalp xl750 is the best choice for your $$$

@PeterLoweOne

5 ай бұрын

I'd love to be able to review that one too. The KTM 790 Adventure is also a pretty great value.

2024 Honda Transalp beats both machines hands down!!!

@PeterLoweOne

4 ай бұрын

I like the Transalp, but there are still plenty of reasons to buy these over the Transalp too.

@rodnb2600

4 ай бұрын

@@PeterLoweOne kzread.info/dash/bejne/ap1kq7ahf8rQl8o.html

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

The 800de is better on the road than the transalp. The suspension Is far superior.

@rodnb2600

3 ай бұрын

Zack Courts of Revzilla would completely disagree with you and I take his world over yours!! He actually tests all these machines!!!!

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

@@PeterLoweOne I feel like the transalp isn't really a honda. The engine definitely outdoes the chassis. That's usually a yamaha thing. Why an earth has the transalp got 91hp. Even aprilia gave the rs660 100hp and the tureg 80hp. Kawasaki gave the gpz500 60hp and the Kle500 48hp. I didn't understand before but I do know.

I like all the specs on the Suzuki… but damn are they ugly colours . All of them are gross. Yellow with gold wheels ? Not sure what they were thinking

@PeterLoweOne

4 ай бұрын

I'm only laughing because I drive this: content2.kawasaki.com/ContentStorage/CKM/Products/5379/3d240578-429b-4257-a92b-109bc0afc77d.jpg What's that about yellow with gold wheels? 🤣

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

Yellow and blue with gold wheels was Suzuki's big thing back in the 80's look up the TS50X TS125X and TS250X I actually like it. I loved those times when it was all 2 stroke and looked like moto x bikes for the road water cooled and de restricted...the DT125R probably looked the best.