"If Apple's not gonna make what I want, I will go to who does." Amen. I was waiting to see if Apple was going to put MacOS on the iPad Pro M4, but they're not, so I'm ordering a Surface Pro this week.

@coshvjicujmlqef6047

Ай бұрын

never buy apple product. full stop

@Space97.

Ай бұрын

Absolutely it's honestly embarrassed to see the m4 chip in the newest iPad not be used to the potential it could be instead they rather you buy both devices instead of one 😢 apple gets on my nerves with this mess. Like if they care about money so much they should know if they just put both ipad os and Mac os on the iPad a bunch of people would buy it in a heartbeat 🙄

@Crispiegames

Ай бұрын

@@Space97. yeah I don’t really mind they charge higher price for iPad Pro with keyboard than a MacBook if the iPad is fully capable of desktop os and workflow. The current state of iPad is just sad and pathetic. Been waiting for this surface for years now, super excited

@BrenR

Ай бұрын

I certainly share the frustration but when I tried a surface tablet I realized that it’s essentially the inverse, where tablet windows is just trash to the extreme. So it’s only got “the best of both worlds” on paper. In reality it’s trash as a tablet compared to the super smooth iPad experience.

@iamraihan3203

Ай бұрын

you know nothing, may be tried years old surface. Using full desktop Os vs iOS on steroid is amazing. As a tablet, ipad pro is nice​@@BrenR

fun fact: if you bought the "flex" model keyboard instead of the "signature" model you have there, you can use the keyboard wirelessly when its detached from the tablet, also has haptic touchpad like what youre used to on the macbooks. Also, you can use the back of the pen to erase like a traditional pencil instead of having to go to a menu to select the eraser tool. Cheers mate.

@Manuel-rl6um

Ай бұрын

The flex keyboard is more rigid too

@Icybubba

Ай бұрын

​@@Manuel-rl6um and more expensive lol

@SenselInc

21 күн бұрын

+1 to the haptic touchpad =)

@fautomoto

21 күн бұрын

@@SenselInc thanks to you guys (and gals) , no less =)

Thanks for making this video. I am an avid iPad user but I am so disappointed with them for not bringing more Mac OS features to their os on iPad. Just got the M4 and it's great but overpowered with no reason! This Surface pro seems to be selling itself. Great channel. Huge fan, thanks. HI from Scotland.

@mosijahi3096

Ай бұрын

What do you want the IPad to do?

@sumitjangraa

Ай бұрын

​@@mosijahi3096 Utilise all that power properly

@Space97.

Ай бұрын

​@@mosijahi3096what the other guy said! it's not too much to ask but they won't because they are afraid it will make mac sales go down and apple rather you buy both devices ipad and MacBook instead of one 😂

@porvoonosho

Ай бұрын

Windows with it's ads and lack of free quality software is completely unusable.

@andyH_England

Ай бұрын

I am surprised you are surprised as Apple has stated that there is zero chance of macOS coming to iPads in the next ten years (at least)--if ever. Apple is committed to improving iPadOS to make it the best tablet OS. They have macOS for desktops. It will take a while, but it is a long-term target.

For all surface pens you can flip the pen and use the end to erase stuff instead of selecting erase option. Hope you are enjoying the surface pro and cant wait to see a full review

@LazaroRodolfoSiamRodriguez

Ай бұрын

I just came here for this comment, LOL Yes, you need to flip it and use the eraser.

The new Flex keyboard has haptic touchpad, it's more rigid too than the one you got. It also allows to type while not attached to the Surface. Also, remember the other position of your keyboard, where you lift the part closer to the screen, hidden the pen and giving uou a mire angled position. The new Flex keyboard does the same but not hidding the pen.

@SenselInc

21 күн бұрын

+1 to the haptic touchpad =)

Thanks man. I'll wait for a second review exploring battery life.

Great unboxing ace!! Trying out what works best for each individual person is the key! Had bought the surface pro 7, influence by my daughter mother who purchased it before I did. I loved what it could do, despite being a hybrid machine. The grind never stops! Happy belated Father’s Day!

Hey The Everyday Dad. Rubber /deleting ink is on the opposite side of the pen, (like on every pencil in the world) so you dont need to manually click on rubber 😉😉

@rowaystarco

Ай бұрын

The funny thing is that the Surface has a Slim Pen with a rubber, while the Apple has a Pencil without one (at leat the pro Pencil I had before)

Fyi: the back of the pen is the erase. No need to click or anything. just turn around the pen and erase like with the eraser on the end of a pencil.

Looking forward to the battery life test and performance!

@AlanPavletta

Ай бұрын

And honest Windows review on this device. Software is only thing that scaring me too much to make a switch from MacBook.

@vinodkumarsingh1973

27 күн бұрын

Yes windows look shit in comoarisn to mac os and ipad os ​@@AlanPavletta

@dujuanjohnson5025

22 күн бұрын

@@AlanPavlettaMac will always be king

@jamesthecat

21 күн бұрын

​@@dujuanjohnson5025Not for much longer! ;)

Fun Fact, The new wallpaper adds a little glow on the taskbar with the same colors as the default apps. The attention to detail is amazing.

@UnlimitedUtopia

Ай бұрын

Mica for everyone

Is the screen flexing when you press on it with the pen? Reflections seem to warp like crazy when you do for some reason, looks really strange

Do you use DXO Pure Raw? I was wondering how well it runs on this new surface pro. Having Pure Raw on a 5G enabled tablet is really the photo editing dream machine I've been waiting for.

I was an early adopter with the Surface line (remember the Surface Book with the weird hinge?), and I've always appreciated their build quality. I also had one of the original Surface Pros, and I'm pretty sure they were the first to market with the hinged kickstand.

@alextheuxguy

Ай бұрын

I had both a surface book 2 and a surface rt, build quality has always been amazing! The devices themselves are mixed bags though. RT was awful, Surface Book 2 suffered from horrible thermal throttling.

@bryans8656

Ай бұрын

@@alextheuxguy I started with the RT, and I feel your pain.

Great video! Off topic a bit but can you link your desk mat?

How is it installing and running games or other programs from an external drive?

Great job, Gary! Could you please test how Adobe Audition works on this device? I know that it is emulated (not supported for ARM architecture, yet.). I need this software for my work.

my guy was impressed that the print on the box was the actual product inside, his files are all on the cloud and his cameras are on batteries. such a combination of things.

Great video, is this unit Fanless? Thanks.

Great unboxing and initial expressions video! Would like to know how the native Figma app (or the web app) works on the Surface Pro thanks!

Cool unboxing and initial thoughts! Curious as to how it handles with Photoshop and lightroom? Do fans kick up? is it snappy with photo editing and video editing? Thanks in advance, keep up the great work.

How’s the device compared to MacBook Air with M3 chip? Performance and Battery Life.

Nice unboxing!

The bezels are for better camera (top) and to lift the keyboard (bottom) so it's on an angle and not flat on the table, hope it helps!

Great review. I just got mine today. How’s the screen? Is it “grainy” compared to iPad? Mine has a weird coating that makes the screen not the highest quality

@robertmezyk8656

Ай бұрын

Is this the OLED or the LCD model? I saw this complaint on Reddit regarding OLED

I would love to know what you end up going with for your handwriting app of choice!

I would like to know your thoughts about the Surface when used as purely a tablet.

Thanks Gary. I'm looking for a tablet just dedicated to note taking without all the added stuff - it just needs to be compatible with multiple systems. Can't wait to see how this stacks up before I make a decision.

Can you game a little on it? Can it run some medium duty programs like photoshop / lightroom? Possible to edit simple video? I'm just curious to see how the performance compared to an iPad

@25eazi

Ай бұрын

Yes you can... I have the elite x model. I do photography and use Lightroom and Photoshop almost daily. I was doing this on the surface pro 7.

The iPad v windows vs Samsung tablets. Which would chose and why?

Does the Snapdragon X Plus version have fans in it?

VERY IMPORTANT! Just a note on the keyboard: you purchased the old one. The new one doesnt hide the pen and the trackpad is much better

@Utkarsh_1508

21 күн бұрын

Keyboard before the old keyboard has no pen support when surfaces had round pens With AAAA batteries. The latest two has pen support(pen bracket).

8:19 you can flip the pen to erase without choosing the eraser, just FYI.

Been waiting for years!!

can you try to use it to do like WSL2 / llm and other Python /C++ x86 program? Really interesting in this one

Glad battery is improved. Now I'm just curious on how it perform video editing 4k 60fps and gaming. Please do a live test for us to see.

What does this click button on pen stands for?

When I opened my keyboard box, it looked the exact same too and it also caught me off-guard, lol. I don't know why I was expecting it to look different, the keyboard looks like it should, but I still did a double take

please can you do a review from a 3D Graphics perspective, how long it takes to render in cinema 4D, would really appreciate it

Can i ask where did you buy it?

What's the freaking model number? Been looking for a Qualcomm Windows ARM tablet.

Anyone ever notice that the apple trackpads you can click faster than they respond sometimes? Esp when it freezes it feels kinda concerning to click on cause i accidentally start pushing super hard on it without realizing.

Does it support good notes?

You should be able to use the upper portion (where the click button is) as an eraser.

I recommend trying out the Surface Pro Flex Keyboard, which is currently available in blue and black. You can use it to type even when the keyboard is disconnected. This will counteract the problem of not being able to hold the Surface Pro on your lap very well. Especially as I have to admit that I've never thought much of placing a laptop on my lap.

i would like to see if someone does check with any program for coding vs etc.

i bought an ancient, used surface pro 4 in a pinch while traveling. the touchscreen is wonky and hence the tablet function is limited, but the form factor and weight coupled with a decent screen and a FULL OS makes it a great travel companion. this device seems to be a great upgrade for me, and might replace my ipad as well.

I prefer having the erase function on the pen. I wish other companies would do it besides Microsoft and Amazon with the Kindle scribe.

@sloppynyuszi

Ай бұрын

The kindle scribe stylus will work with Samsung, and even the eraser feature will work. It’s crazy that’s not the norm. At least there is a solution, I guess.

@ProfessorTechNerd

Ай бұрын

@@sloppynyuszi yes I made a video about that! The Scribe pen is actually really good!

Lets open multiple tabs of chrome with youtube on each tab with everyday dad videos and then lets see the performance. Also does it still have a fan?

Personally been jumping back and forth between ipad and surface pro for the past decade due to business travel needs. I can't justify having ipad while having to carry a mac on long international trips and surface pro's battery life has been trash for the past 5 years. Really looking forward to this and hopefully this can be my ultimate travel 2in1.

@-hd4yz

Ай бұрын

Wait until the 5G cellular versions come out later in the year.

@davidm8030

Ай бұрын

@@-hd4yzare they esim or vintage physical?

@moozillamoo2109

Ай бұрын

For me, MS Office and Security software are both charged by device. So in addition to convenience and costs of the devices, having a combo device saves on software as well.

@Crispiegames

Ай бұрын

@@-hd4yz I prob don’t really need cellular but it’s really a nice add-on

@-hd4yz

Ай бұрын

Good question. I don't know, but I read on tech news sites that cellular versions are coming later this year. Personally, I just tether data from my phone to my Pro X, but others might have heavier data needs on their tablet.

Idk if they carried it through to the slim pen, but with a classic surface pen, you could just flip it around and use the top of the pen as an eraser like a real pencil. That feature absolutely spoilt me and any pen that doesn't do that is sub-par imo.

I got a new 13” iPad Pro with the M4 chip along with the Magic Keyboard. I’ve been using it as a replacement for my work laptop for the last three weeks. I had to connect it to my work’s mobile device management system to make it fully functional as a work device. With the Magic Keyboard it’s not a lot lighter than the MacBook Pro, but I do like having a touchscreen. So far, I can do about 80-90% of my work tasks without a problem. The file management app (Files) is a bit wonky and doesn’t operate well with OneDrive, but it’s doable. Some of the M365 apps aren’t as functional as they are on MacOS. But so far as I am in long meetings, some all-day, with Teams going for the meeting duration, I’m seeing only 3-4 hours of battery life. I’m NOT impressed by that. I get longer battery life on my MacBook Pro. I’ve had Surface tablets in the past, most notable the old Surface Pro X with the ARM processor. It too didn’t get great battery life, but I’m wondering if the new ones aren’t worth a try.

I'd love to see how ZBrush performs on this new Surface Pro. Fyi, lift the keyboard towards the Surface to magnetically lock the better typing angle.

Would love an surface with this arm processor in a slightly lighter package with 11inch. That's enough for me. At home I plug my computer anyways to an external thunderbolt display and peripherals!

I am curious how this is going to run resolve....I have a 3rd generation surface pro from 2013...I still use it to this day for writing!! the screen is gorgeous...I like the form factor....if the Surface Pro can run resolve I will jump back to Windows...I bought a MAC but after two years of use...I am still not comfortable with it...

I still have a surface pro 7+ and I love it, it's getting a "bit old" now and I'm looking to replace it. But... I noticed in the last 2 or 3 years, I hardly use the pen and also not so much the touch screen. The Alcantara keyboard won't last that long with regular usage. In 3 years I had to replace it twice which is an extra cost and not cheap. So I'm going for the Snapdragon Elite version... but the Surface Laptop and not the "tablet". With the laptop you have a 13" and a 15" version. I'm going for the 13" with 16GB ram and probably 512GB storage

$1500 is craaazy. That key is $450 😅😅

Is it possible to turn off this AI thing that takes screenshots and track the things you do??

Try and make a short video of using applications in this tablet pls

Storage is expandable isn't it?

What surface pro computer is this

I need a table which works just like pc. And not less then a pc when needed.

Will it run AutoCAD?

It would be nice to know if it is easy to install GNU/Linux

@coshvjicujmlqef6047

Ай бұрын

Of course yes. You have UEFI.

my biggest question about these snapdragon chips... Will they play Diablo 4?....

this is not the new Flex keyboard the have a bigger touchpad and wireless connection and better typing its form the old model

I need it to prove itself with battery tests

When you do the review please try the emulation of x86 apps. Thanks

We need drawing tests on this thing

@sloppynyuszi

Ай бұрын

The actual drawing performances actually evolve super slowly. For example, the spen from the Tab S3 is the same Wacom tech that’s in the latest s-pens. There are new Bluetooth features, but have nothing to do with drawing. Same with slim pen 2, it’s the same as as the one on surface pro 8, personally I think they went leaps and bounds with it to the point I think it’s perfectly fine for drawing. For the longest time MPP was awful as the line quality was awful for drawing cartoons or line art in general. I have Cintiq at work, for home I use iPad, Surface Pro and a remarkable. And I would say after working digitally for over a decade and using a ton of crap stylus’ for drawing. Today all 4 major stylus options your choice is subjective now. If you need to slow down footage to see a difference, it has no practical use. Most places still use Cintiqs with 60hz screens, and old 10 year plus Cintiqs with 2000 levels of pressure are still widely in use. This tech has peaked a while ago. My favourite tech to draw on is my remarkable 2 with a Lamy pen and a metal nib. It’s by far technically the most trash tablet I have, but the texture and feeling is just right 😅 so I can overlook the trash e-ink refresh rate, and using a notes app with 6 layers. Brad Colbow and Teoh on Tech are usually the best go to guides for pen tests, but honestly, the past years they all seem good enough. The USI pens and tablets using old MPP tech are the only ones to avoid and Wacom pens with batteries, but I think no one sells those anymore.

FYI the more expensive keyboard does have a 'force touch' esque trackpad and is overall built better

Just test if the apps/programs you need will work! Other ARM/windows machines have been disappointing. I used a Surface Pro 4 for 4-5 years when I was working in Afghanistan. It did everything I needed it to do, the battery life wasn't the best but it is a good computer

Man, mine is coming in 3 weeks. International shipping sometimes sucks. I was so pissed with iPad OS.

Linux?

Do the copilot onscreen assist as they did with Minecraft do it with another application. Let’s see if they are lying or the feature is not out yet.

It seems like you are very new to this 10-year old form factor. Have fun 😊😊. I will look at your follow-up video.

I was skeptical about the kickstand, because you can't put it on your lap. But the Surface Pro has a damn fine alternative. You can just set the tablet anywhere within view, and then put the keyboard on your lap and then type. I accidently did something like that earlier today. Not intentionally thinking it would work, but it just fucking worked, lol. I was laying on the couch and put the tablet on the coffee table and was just clicking away on the keyboard. Having experienced this feature now, I don't think I'd ever want to use a traditional laptop again.

How much faster are ARM-native apps vs. emulated x86 apps?

@andyH_England

Ай бұрын

Around 10-15% according to tests I have seen so far.

@perfectionbox

Ай бұрын

@@andyH_England Hmmm hardly seems worth compiling a separate binary for ARM 🤔

8:29 uff that screen flex is lowkey driving me crazy lol

You can detach the keyboard and still use it so you don't have to use it all together on your lap.

Couldn't have said it better myself... I was looking to update my iPad, but am beyond tired of the limitations of iPad OS. I think I'm going to go all out and get the Surface Pro 11 with the OLED screen. Priced everything out and with my military/student discount it'll be around $1700 with the keyboard and pen (not the flex one but the same one you're using). Also speaking of the keyboard the typing experience is much better if you snap it up for the angled approach versus completely flat which I'm sure you've figured out by now.

I have been a fan of the Surface, since the original Pro, which I still have. I currently have the Pro 6. I love the device, albeit, I don't use it as much as I used to. I decided on the Surface Pro for school, over the iPad. At the time, the iPad was just a tablet and not really a good device for school.

That keyboard has a gimmick that you can fold the upper edge and make a foot which give you nice angle and stability

Is it me or does it seem to be a bit laggy. When im moving the window around, or minimizing, it doesn't feel as smooth and snappy as a normal tablet.

@frankytb04

Ай бұрын

Im having the same issue when looking at construction blueprints on pdf. Was wondering if i was the only one

I know it’s pointless, but could you try playing MSFS2020?

It’s strange how slow the OS was though. Like the apps took forever to boot up felt like 2014….

Palm rejection is there?

Just why did you get the X Plus if you want to check if these are competitive?! Dont get it

I'm surprised that he brought the standard keyboard instead of the flex one. Would have made a better review and comparison against the new ipad keyboard.

Suggestion for you as a primarily Apple user. Why not just tap the trackpad instead of clicking?

thet Surface could be my pivot back to Windows too because iPadOS hobbles the hardware

My dream device!!

Hey man you can flip the pen to use the eraser ig

@jdinitials

Ай бұрын

yes, you can flip the pen to erase. The back button can be customised to open programs or screen snip. The side button is used as a lasso tool. The slim pen 2 is one of the best in the market right now.

The problem with M series SOC is: They are only available with MAC OS! I would/WILL switch as soon, as I can get something as fast in Resolve Studio as the M1 for a similar price. Mobile device.

Yep also in the camp of giving up on Apple’s refusal to make a proper 2 in 1

Needs anti-reflective protector.

I started buying surface products since surface pro 2 and never went back. Surface pro 2 and 5 were so useful during my college days tonuse AutoCAD and not having to carry books or notes breaking mu back. When the Surface Pro came out I did wait for the Pro 2 to come out and once ai got it it reduced the weight of my backpack from like 40 pounds carrying the books and notes to just carrying the Surface pro products. I will say the surface pro 2 pen was way better than the surface pro 5 pen.

For me the killer machine would be a new ARM Surface Go... Fast tablet like experience, with all Windows apps. Lighter than an 11" iPad Pro with Magic keyboard too

I'm using my surface pro on my lap right now.

I agree with your comment about if apple is not going to make what I want. I have a 16 MBP M3 Max and its great but huge. I try to leave with my M4 Ipad Pro 13 all the time but i get stuck because a lot of my work stuf doesn't work on the ipad. So this is such a perfect device to be portable enough and do everything I need it to do. The iPad is great because it has cellular but this will have it eventually and I will just buy the cellular version. Windows made what I've been dreaming of apple doing with the iPad and won me over.

the issue i have with windows is that over time is slowed down... i also felt that somethings were great but most was just ok... i used to have a surface laptop and a surface tablet -- the laptop worked like a laptop and was great for the most part... but the surface tablet struggles to be a laptop and is very poor at being a tablet. i do like ipads...but it's shame the M chips ipads cant give us the option to run desktop apps (they should run considering it's using the same chip as the laptops)... putting MacOS on the tablet would be great as an option and have iPad apps work (you can currently run certain iPad apps on the mac) -- the only thing stopping them is money... at the moment people are still buying a mac and an iPad rather than a single device