New Order | Thieves Like Us | Live at The Hacienda | 20 July 1983 | Reconstructed 11 Minute Version
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Forty years ago, in April 1984, New Order released their single Thieves Like Us, on Factory Records, catalogue number FAC 103.
This video is a new edit and restoration of an early live performance of Thieves Like Us from the 20 July 1983 Hacienda show. It is sourced from the 1984 Channel 4 mini documentary, Play at Home and excerpts of footage of the entire Hacienda show.
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Thieves Like Us was the only “new” record the band released in 1984. It was quite successful in the UK, reaching no. 18 in the UK singles chart, garnering an appearance on Top of the Pops.
It is named after the 1974 film Thieves Like Us, directed by Robert Altman. Guitarist and lead singer Bernard Sumner stated during a TV interview in 1984 that the song's title was suggested by John Benitez. The song was co-written by Arthur Baker during the New York sessions for a previous single, Confusion.
This live cut of Thieves Like Us is interesting in many ways. Clocking in at close to 12 minutes long, it is almost double the length of the studio version. The latter part of the track is an electro-style breakdown with sequencers, and synths.
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Play at Home was a series of nine, one hour shows, wherein bands were given total control over the program's content with no input from the production company or Channel 4. Some of the other bands featured were Special AKA, The Bunnymen, The Banshees, XTC.
New Order Play at Home featured three live performances filmed at the Hacienda. The film also features ironic interviews with the members of New Order, Factory Records boss Tony Wilson, and other Factory and Manchester luminaries Martin Hannett, Rob Gretton, Alan Erasmus, Peter Saville and Pete Shelley, and others.
From a Dangerous Minds feature about New Order Play at Home:
The star of the proceedings is really Tony Wilson, which makes this movie an interesting companion piece to 24 Hour Party People, which also centered on Wilson [as embodied by Steve Coogan]. Wilson spends much of the documentary in a bathtub [naked], and one of the first things that happens is that Gillian Gilbert jumps into the bathtub [clothed] and starts to interview him.
One of the most memorable moments is a bird’s-eye shot of the two of them in the tub, Wilson’s hands placed strategically over his privates, as he attempts to answer Gilbert’s question, which happens to be “Are you a capitalist?” That question, and the related question of Wilson’s financial relationship to the band, provides the seething subtext of hostility that percolates throughout the movie.
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The first few minutes of Thieves Like Us, as featured on the Play at Home show, utilises footage of Manchester and surrounding areas. The live performance footage only begins when Bernard Sumner starts to sing. Also, that version has been edited to omit the first verse and the latter part of the track.
This video reassembles the complete track and complete live footage. The two sources differ in both video and audio quality. Creating a matrix of the two very different sounding audios, made the contrast between sections of the track too noticeable. In order to get around that, I created a loop of the drum track, and synced it into the mix. In addition, my buddy the producer Particledots, engineered some Isolated sections, giving me an instrumental version to incorporate.
Thanks for watching, I hope you dig it!
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Credits
Video and Audio Source:
New Order | Thieves Like Us | Live at The Hacienda | 20 July 1983
From “New Order Play at Home” | Channel 4 | RPM Media | Broadcast 19th October 1984
From “The Hacienda, Manchester, 1983” | Power, Corruption & Lies [Definitive Edition] | 2023
Sound | Adrian Richmond | RAK Mobile | Production | New Order
Musicians:
Bernard Sumner | Vocals, Keyboards
Peter Hook | Bass
Stephen Morris | Keyboards
Gillian Gilbert | Keyboards
© Universal Music Publishing Group
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Another historical video... from the epic Live at Hacienda!!.. Great audio and video processing!!! Thank you!!!!🙏😊💯💎💎💖🎙💕🎸💖💕🌬🌊🎶
A lot of work going on here. Really well done with the audio, reconstructing live sources is a hard call. Lovely smooth transitions, you must have had to wrestle with the delays on the keyboard lines. This is obviously a labour of love and the visuals are exceptional. Cheers!.
Very nice upload! Parts of this were used for the BBC's "Play at Home" documentary, and that's from where I first heard and saw it, fifteen years back, in a separate upload of that segment (which also included great footage of 1980s late-industrial Manchester over the long intro sequence), but it's great to be able to see the entire performance! Thank you!
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Very good, thanks.
Both Bernie & Gillian with so much confidence here. Brilliant performance.
Great! Thank you Nacho!
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Top work. Again!!
I have several audio bootlegs of N.O from the 80s. That's how you listened to music back then, kids! Anyway...I love the shambolic nature of the band. Some of the gigs are so funny :"this song is just for aaalll of you....and get your hands off the mic stand you fkin c.."
Great!
Anyone know what Bernard said at the start?
Me gustan mucho más los New Order de los 80. Sí.
Shows the depth of musicians when Joy Division and Pink Floyd lose their figurehead then manage to go to great heights ..
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That’s very well said. I agree on both counts.
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Yes, the lyrics here are even more poignant if they are read as a veiled comment on the triangle of love and guilt that played a big part behind the death of Ian Curtis - a subject that neither the band nor his widow were eager to talk about during the 1980s, of course (I didn't get to know about it until I saw the Control film)
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