New Old Jointer/Planer: Kity 636
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I found a very good deal for a Kity 636 Jointer/Planer combination on eBay, to replace my current one. It has a wider cutter head (25 cm), a VERY powerful motor and an overall much better build quality.
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A lot of very neat solutions to the problems you faced in this very interesting project!
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
Herzlichen Glückwunsch zur "neuen" Maschine!!! Wie immer ein tolles und informatives Video. Profi-Werkzeug für einen professionellen Woodworker! Immer wieder interessant und schön anzusehen welche tollen Ergebnisse Du bei all deinen Sachen/Projekten erzielst.
Really nice work in adding your own "extras". Simple but clever designs!
Congrats on the new jointer, and thank you for the walk through on its features and your upgrades.
einfach nur faszinierend. Danke für die Einblicke in eine Abricht-Dickenhobelmaschine. Ich bewundere deine Fähigkeiten.
Like a german friend always told me, If it's green and heavy, than it is a great machine.
@yoruhana190
5 жыл бұрын
Actualy its surprisingly lightweight.
Hello Kity! Eine richtig schöne alte Maschine und ich mag es, wie durchdacht sie ist. Deine upgrades sind wieder gut und funktionell. Glückwunsch zur Anschaffung!
Great find and purchase! Excellent engineering and builds of the modifications! You seem very happy and rightfully so.
I liked the way you refurbished and older tool to be used again. That's how I done my woodworking shop, a tablesaw , bandsaw, and jointer all refurbished. It's a great way to save money and have good working equipment. I like doing that as much as the woodworking.
Marius you just keep up with the good work you do. Man i remember buying my first cheap planer/thickness not so long ago..It felt like i have 10 employees already:-)
You're quite an entertainer. I love your humor. You are intelligent, innovative, and more of a woodworker than I will ever be. Thank you for all of it. Here in the USA, you need to buy two machines to do the work of your Kity. Oh there are probably equivalents here but way out of the price range of weekend warriors like me. I like your Kity and what you've done with it to make it functional. Thanks for sharing.
Motor is a beast....doesn't even flinch when put the wide side through.
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I love it.
@dasstackenblochen9250
6 жыл бұрын
The motor looks a lot like it is actually a re-purposed direct drive table saw motor (note the extra flat construction & how the mounting flange goes away to the side and rear - that's to increase the effective cut depth - and all standard industrial motors have a nameplate). Probably leaning more towards the 4 kW (5 1/2 HP) mark. Very nice setup!
Great video. I like the way you approach the problems and create the solutions. Thanks for sharing.
very clever .. and i love jointer planer but i dont have one.. hope some day i can get one.
Just bought one of these today 50 GB Pounds !! Boy was that a lucky find. I remember these when they were first made and I was jealous of those who could afford them.
Looks like you defiantly got your moneys worth there, mind you the way you take machines apart then put them back together again, i don't think it matters what condition the machine is in. I think the way you make things to add on to machines to make them safer, or better than before is Brilliant. I don't know how you do it, Well Done. Barry (ENG)
Keep up the good work, Marius! I've really enjoyed all your videos. Thanks for sharing!
Schönes Ding! Ich hab 'ne alte Elektra Beckum Kombi mit integriertem Fahrgestell und bin damit auch super zufrieden.
Marius, you are truly a genius! You come up with some of the simplest, clever ideas ever. Keep up the outstanding work young man. You make me want to look for a jointer just like yours. And of course I would do everything you did. Again; you are truly a genius. May Jesus continue to bless you with extraordinary gifts that you use to help all of us.
Awesome score! Looks almost identical to an Inca 570. I did not know Kity made a planer/thicknesser like this.
Nice find Marius, built like a tank,no plastic.Will probably outlive you if well maintained.Well done you!!
Great Video. Liked the cabinet build with all the little extra bits. I’m looking at get one of these machines. Hope it works as well as yours. 👍
What a cute little machine it's a lot like the Inca jointer we see out west.Perfect size for a small space.
Very talented young man, thanks for the post
Marius, Your designs and builds are quite uniquely intuitive and fun to watch. The extend of your knowledge and abilities is quite impressive and far above your age. Your knowledge of mechanical engineering and industrial design is really remarkable. You must be a mechanical engineer. Impressive videos and productions... Kudos! Thank you for the great sense of humor that you have and for these shows. I liked the disappearing-reappearing bit (lathe). All the best.
@MariusHornberger
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
I bought an inca machine, similar. The stand is 2x4’s screwed together and it weeble wobbles like crazy. Your stand looks way more solid. I think I’ll copy that.
You will have great times with that machine. They were made in France, most of them were made on the simple idea to use one single motor to power many machines. They were also manufacturing bigger machines with their own motor. I own a 20 yo table saw of this brand (a Kity 619) and a planer/jointer Kity 637. Both a awesome machine very reliable. I bought my saw for 400€ with 6 blades (up to 270/300mm blades just work fine), a rear outfeed table, a side table to rip up to 1000m wide sheets, and a cross cut sled with a 1200mm bar. The planer is quite similar, the tables are 260mm wide, 1200mm long, and can joint up to 250mm. I add a digital scale on it to ease reading the thickness I'm aiming for. Enjoy.
@grattetout69
7 жыл бұрын
Look on Ebay to fing in UK very low priced jointer blades, I found a pair of 260mm knives for around 20€. A french e shop may also help you to find parts for these old ladies..
I'm jealous. That's a really nice looking machine!
Marius you are legit! I love watching your videos. keep up the good work
My old school had a big Kity planer/Jointer, it sounded like this: MMMMWMMMMMMM I loved that sound :)
Klasse Video! Viele gute Ideen und Anregungen! Ich mag besonders den Holzschraubenschlüssel!
Heck of a find! AND at what seems to me to be a great price.
Thanks. I just bought a Kity K5 BestCombi, mostly for the planer/thicknesser, so now i know what to expect. Couldn't find many videos in English.
@danceswithaardvarks3284
3 жыл бұрын
And thank goodness for frame at 11 mins 19 seconds as I was struggling to rebuild the guard assembly.
Awww! It felt so good to see what amazing stuff you could do with the same crappy machine I have :( Congratulations on the new one!
This kid have great skills. Congrats
nice purchase. Looks like new.
Very nice build ! Cheers from Canada
Should serve your needs well. Congratulations and nice re engineering!
Well done, young man!!
just bought a Kity 636 £50 or 60 Euro, working wish it had some of the add on bits but its great for the job I have was worried I might not get a manual for it but your Video tells me all I need to know. I like to comment it its Green and heavy its good!
The earlier comment echo my sentiments precisely. My thanks to you....
Now I feel bad, I just bought similar jointer you've had before getting a new one. Well...I'll wait for more subs then :) Thanks for another awesome video Marius!
You are a lucky guy to have new planner
Nice machine, Exactly what I need!
cool video I have the same machine, mine also has a horizontal drill/panel saw and molder that you can activate by changing belts (they are separate machines mounted on a table with only one motor). She works really great, it's nice to see that there are more people who have this brand. I believe it’s a brand from the Scheppach group.
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
How well does the molder perform? That's the only other machine that could be useful in my shop (once it's big enough to allow for that)
@bartblankers1
7 жыл бұрын
It performs pretty well for such small one because it has a 1.5hp motor(3 HP in your case) the downside is that is only has a 15mm (or 16mm I can check that for you) but with the right spacing rings I use molders that need a shaft size up to 30mm. it has a really nice adjusting system for the molder height.one other great feature is that is has a slot in the table to use the sled from a table saw, so you can cut counter profiled tenons. If you want to I can take some pictures during the weekend, or if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
@adegeary3062
6 жыл бұрын
bart b hi m8 I have just bought same thing.and have to put it all back together due to transportation lol .You have to twist the belt to operate boulder don't you.?
Beaucoup d'idées,joli travail bravo 🛠😉
Impressive good machine built to last
Super Maschine! Nur in Europa! nicht einfach hier in Argentina so eine schöne Maschine in guter zustand zu finden! Gratuliere! Schauts nagelneu aus!!!! Griaß di! Fritz aus Arg.
Nice Marius, love your videos!!
ja die alten Maschinen sind Gold Wert und auch gleich hier und da eine Verbesserung gebaut echt klasse
Wie immer! Lustig, einfallsreich und sympatisch, Technik at it's best! Danke
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank
Increíble máquina, enhorabuena, saludos desde España
how do you have the time and patience for setting up a machine. very impressive tune up
Picked up a complete Kity 636 for 300 euro's were i was very very lucky! It also has the original frame under it. It was from the son of the 1e owner :) eager to get it to use but first have to fit some weels under it :)
That's a great looking machine. I would never have the confidence to drop 400 euro on a secondhand purchase off ebay in case it turned out to be a dud. I have the modern equivalent built in china but it still works well. Try not to lift it by the tables though. I made a set of handles for mine with two long wooden 'bars' that were screwed into the main body where the tables attach. You can then do the equivalent lift but without stressing the tables.
5:14 9/10 form
Looking up Kity 636 I found mention of it as a current model in a 1992 issue of American Woodworker. Your machine's styling looks older to me than that, but looks on industrial grade machines aren't a big concern to manufacturers, so don't give that much weight. Nice machine, sweet build. Looks sharp.
kity is good planer, i had that exact planer
Oh, dear, now there's going to be a run on eBay and elsewhere to find and snap up those old Kity 636 machines. I can kiss goodbye any chance of snagging one cheap. Marius, you should do commercials because now you've made me (and others, no doubt) want to buy one of those.
Lovely machine! 👍
Beautiful motor.
Really good video Marius! Szacun
great sense of humour!
Hallo Marius, deine ´Kity 636´ würde bei mir ein schönes Zuhause finden, nur mal so in den Raum hinein gerufen :-) Danke für dein(e) Video(s) & bleib´ gesund !
Your “new” planer/jointer appears very much reminiscent of the old-and discontinued-Swiss Inca tools. They were well engineered. There appears to some subtle and not so subtle differences. After some for 40 years I sold the Inca tools and bought a Felder 531 Pro. Excellent combo tool, but there are times that I miss the Inca tools. Well made, light and easy to move around the shop-and the country.
Way cool machine!! Your videos are awesome!!
I have one of these in a single phase configuration - I think it is 1.1kW motor. It did not have all the dust collection parts but I made my own. It is on its original stand. It is a great machine and I will implement some of your mods to improve my one.
@erickoster152
7 жыл бұрын
I just found a set of 4 Kity machines on the original table an are thinking about buying an extra motor so i don't have to change belts >> Do you think 1.1 kw is big enough for the planer or should i go for a bigger one ? ( the machine is not mounted yet so i have no idea )
@lightningstrike20111
7 жыл бұрын
Eric Koster i find my planner works well with the 1ph motor that is of that rating i think. It depends on the amount of material you are removing at a time which is a cross section of thickness x width of piece. I've run beech and cherry through mine that were the whole opening width taking about 0.2mm at a time but anymore would slow the motor. Running spruce however i could take nearer half a mil at a time at full width. Having not had a machine previous I've nothing to compare it to.
@erickoster152
7 жыл бұрын
Okay Thanks for your reply , since now is the time I can make a choice I think I will go for something a little bigger
Kitty is well known manufacturer. Definitely it's better than woodstar. Hope ut serve you well.
@Slovenianwoodworker
7 жыл бұрын
Cabanaz I wouldn't buy it for my shop that's 100% I have al SCM mashines. But for his situation (lack of space) is quite upgrade.
Beautiful work. Well done! Please get some proper push blocks for passing boards over the jointer head. You have a long future in wood working and need your hands intact.
Well done ! And, as French, I'm happy to see a French Kity working out of France ! I've just bought the same machine (but not in the same shape) and I'm interested by the support machine table : could you give us main sizes ? Thank you . François
ممتاز عقليه ممتازه ولها كل تقدير واحترام ونرجو المزيد والمزيد من الفديوهات المفيده فى صيانت المكينات النجاره
Good thing you had wheels on that lathe stand :)
Eine sehr schöne Maschine hast du da! Sehr kompakt und trotzdem sehr kräftig! Ich nutzte die gleiche Maschine wie du zuvor hattest. Die ist wirklich nicht der Hit, demnach kann ich den Wechsel sehr gut nachvollziehen 😄
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
Nicht der Hit, das ist aber noch sehr hübsch beschrieben :)
Ohh! A Kity 636 in Germany?! (fun fact: Kity is now owned by Scheppach) Such a lovely machine, it would break my heart if I had to sell mine... That motor is huge! :o It must be twice the weight of the 636! lol
Looks very similar to the old Inca 570. Built like a Swiss watch.
Thank you for the interesting video !
Watched the Video twice xD. Now i want to resurect my kity. Surprisingly precise, that little beast. I have the original Motor but its not that powerful, sadly.
Hey the official Kitty motor's only go up to 2 horse power, it feels like more due to it being three phase motor's wich have way more torque, compared to single phase motors. Great Little machine I just bought a combination Table with the 635 included.
Very nice machine! Seems better than previous one much more.
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
Oh you have no idea, it's a dream compared to my previous one
@yiyongleng7157
7 жыл бұрын
I agree! I like it more and more after watching again.
Great video.
You are so brilliant I feel dumb when I watch your videos. :P
Parabéns suas máquinas são lindas
you can adjust the guard spring force by turning the screw where the spring is
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
only to a certain degree, and I'm already over that
Looks great
A really sound looking machine. Do the surfacing (jointer) tables remain perfectly aligned after being raised and lowered a few times?
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
yes, they work like a charme
thank you now i know what you've been up to
I have an Inca jointer/planer that is amazingly similar to yours
Hello! The company that made this was bought by Scheppah. I think everyone has seen what "good quality" tools makes this company! Also in Germany another company, Elektra Bekum, that made stuff like this planner was bought by Metabo and the same happend. I dont think you could buy machines like this at hobby level. Now sheet metal and plastic is cheaper , lighter and easier to produce. And also the chinese only have to change the color or the stickers on them.
I just bought a set of 4 kity machines, 1 of them a 636 an i am in the process of mounting them to my worktable. I really like your idea of adjusting the fence, with or without your permission I will copy that. Thanks
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
Of course, you can copy/use my idea. You maybe send me some pictures when it's finished. My address is in my channel description.
@erickoster152
7 жыл бұрын
If I find out how to put the pictures from my camera to my computer I will, I am not in to anything digital , that's why I like this old machine, I can tear it apart and put it back together and I know it will work. On a sidenote: I like your style of working, making do with a budget and a small space , unlike some who seem to be sponsored by Festool or Incra
Nice work
Your old jointer/planer looked like something out of a Little Tykes toy set, but this newer one looks like a great option if someone is short on space! Good width, too (25 cm = 10")! I think an 8" is the biggest I've seen with a benchtop model before I saw this one! In fact, this is probably as good of a benchtop model as I've seen...most of the other ones I've seen look like buyer's traps: cheap to buy but ultimately a waste of money.
Nice machine.
nice job thanks for sharing
your english is improving noticably.
I got a similar machine and decided to fix it, do you know if there should be some kind of bushing betweek the plastic wheel tat moves with the large wheel (the one with holes) and the metal of the machine??
Great video. Thanks. How did you adjust the infeed (and outfeed) table relative to the axel back to front?? I have more that 2 mm difference where the tables seem to be sagging towards the front?? Any hints?
@jamespreece7002
Жыл бұрын
Did you ever get a solution to this problem? I am having the same difficulty…
@CarstenDittrich2014
Жыл бұрын
@@jamespreece7002 Nope - ended up getting rid of it. Found that the entire table was twisted. No good... Bought a new instead...
Looks like a great machine Marius, compact enough for a small workshop but obviously higher quality than the consumer stuff. What problems did you have with your previous planer? I've been looking at that model, the price is obviously attractive since I don't have a whole lot of use for one but occasionally do jobs where I'd really like one - hand planing large pieces can be a bit of a chore. Thanks
Excellent! My old 636 has started to not want to feed the timber while thicknessing, can you suggest what I need to look at? Thanks.
i been thinking about the kity 636 for a while now but after seeing it in action im sold im gonna have to get one they certainly beat the £200 plastic ones from diy shops haha
@MariusHornberger
7 жыл бұрын
The 200€ crap doesn't even come close to this.
@thomasdoherty6876
7 жыл бұрын
my table saw has a threaded arbour on the right hand side so maybe i could power the planer with it using a pulley system try and cut down on the footprint my shop isnt big enough for a dedicated planer/thicknesser cart like yours but one day
if it is old, big, green and heavy it is good machinery