ATTENTION RULES SPOILER: It’s been pointed out that Devastating Wounds no longer inflict Mortal Wounds, so Draigo’s 4+ FNP wouldn’t have worked against the Forge Fiend (which we all missed at the time). As a result, I will reverse the victory point scores as Draigo would very likely have died to the subsequent Obliterator shooting. The League leaderboards will reflect this. Congratulations Beard! :)❤️🕷️

@dobarun1444

4 ай бұрын

I believe it was Forgefiend shooting. With Daemonic Ordnance they get Dev wounds and hazardous. But Draigo should have 4+ FNP rules changed like Custodes :)

@LPAbbysall

4 ай бұрын

It was actually the forgefiend that had the dev wounds, he gains devastating wounds and hazardous on dark pact

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Was it the forgefiend that he rolled all the 6’s on? I’ll have to re-watch and check :) 🕷️

@matthewcheeseman6453

4 ай бұрын

23:40

@MacNuggetsTV

4 ай бұрын

​@tabletoptactics that's the one, that would have been 6 from your squad dead right away which may have changed the game. 😊

The paint job on those Iron Warriors is fucking phenomenal. All that industrial grunge, grime, and wear. Absolutely incredible.

Beard handled this game very well, he's such a gent. I know they're all friends and he and Lawrence are practically brothers with how many games they've played together, but it still hurts to get tabled like that especially to start off the League. Look forward to seeing more League matches soon!

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

We are indeed brothers at this point, but that aside, he actually won this game! I reversed the victory points scored based on the fact that Draigo no longer gets a 4+ FNP against Devastating Wounds, so would very likely have been killed early :)

@halfcrafted

4 ай бұрын

@@tabletoptactics Ah thanks for clarifying Lawrence! Congrats to mister Beard!

@pauldodd1206

4 ай бұрын

i was hoping that it was one of your league rules, i hate the fact GW hasnt answered simple FAQ's like having ALL mw saves count towards dev wounds.@@tabletoptactics

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Agreed, it doesn’t make much sense that GW don’t address it, but as we were playing by their FAQ’s it stands :)

A painful lesson learned there Lawrence but great sportsmanship flipping the result in Joe's favor. Good man.

The premier 40k channel IMO - keep up the awesome work guys and gal!

Remember beard, the first forgefiend shot into a 10 man blob - meaning 6 extra blast shots! :)

@theStamax

4 ай бұрын

6 extra (2 per 5 per weapon).

@daniel_fyr2515

4 ай бұрын

@@theStamax yes of course, wrote wrong heh

Joe might legit have the best looking iron warriors i ahve ever seen, the day they get a rule set will be this mans heaven

So pumped y'all! Can't wait to get in my first league game! Got one scheduled for tomorrow night, Wolves vs Necrons!

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Good luck!

"these new daemon-hammers hit on 3s now..." Famous last words.

Saw this on demand, here to help with the algorithm! Keep up the good work ❤

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Love the match up. So cool to see how the dataslate affected both of these armies. Loving the League set up, looking forward to getting some games in to support the cause!

Awesome stuff as usual, cheers for all the effort you guys put into entertaining us.

Awesome battle report ! A difficult one for the chaos, to meet its nemesis !

Guy playing Grey Knights actually sounds like Draigo from the Grey Knight and Inquisitor video game.

Gorgeous models as always guyys, thanks for the video!

Dev wounds aren't mortals anymore so draigo mortal wound protection doesn't work anymore against dev wounds

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Ah yes, that’s a very good catch! That’s quite a big mistake - so will look at adjusting scores for the game.

@robertreimers6938

4 ай бұрын

Was coming to comments to say this! Draigos save is sadly nearly useless.

@ArienetteAyanami

4 ай бұрын

It really should work like that though!

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Indeed it should! Turns out Beard couldn’t get Devastating Wounds on his Obliterators anyway, so I was mistakenly making saves for a mistake. Hilarious. But he does get it on the Forgefiends, so ultimately I’ll reverse the score in his favour :)

@kelvinvoorneveld7265

4 ай бұрын

@@tabletoptactics but the forgefiend does have devasting wounds when it makes a dark pact

I love the idea of playing your favourite factions! Looking forward to this league, I was wondering to myself the other day when the next league would be 🙌

Beard flipping his Dice has made my day 😄 18:47

Best battle reports on KZread 👍

Really enjoyed this battle report. Great job :)

Man that was brutal! Great game and I cant wait for more

that was a great game, even with the rules mixup. Great to see the best of each of the armies going at it.

Ohhh yeah! Best way to start the weekend! :D

If you want to see why Tabletop Tactics is the premier 40K outlet. Checkout my favorite Bat Rep- World Eaters Ultra Marine, back in February 2023. Pure battle joy from Chef and Lawrence. “Im taking Ultra Marines.” “Lawrence who cares.” Lol😂

Cool as always 👍

Loving Spider's haircut!

I really enjoyed watching the game. It shows just how powerful movement abilities can be with tactical mission deck.

Great game!!

Wait what ? draigo has mortal wounds save, but the forgefiend does not do mortalwounds, he does dev wounds. 8 terminators would have died outright.

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Yeah we caught this now, have addressed this in our pinned comment :)

Lawrence, props for the forfeit. I take it YOU are now eligible to change your list as the losing player? If so, I might recommend swapping out one Librarian for a Grand Master. The recent FAQ clarification allowing his rule to ignore -Damage modifiers is huge. Those vortexes treated you well this game, but it is only a matter of time until they will betray you! Mark my words...

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah a GM could be good! I am eligible to change now but honestly, I’m kinda still suspect on the dreadknights at this point… 👀👀👀👀

Good game if but a little brutal. And I have downloaded the app and fought my first league game with my noble Ultramarines vs the diabolical Chaos Knights, and lost, but it was a valiant effort and my Lieutenant took down a Knight Despoiler with grenades, that was fun.

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Congrats on your first game, win or lose, fun was had!

Lawrence is such a character. My son really enjoys watching him play- laughter, enjoying the game, he’s a true 40K “G”.

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! ❤️🕷️

@Prometheus_Williams

4 ай бұрын

Im being pressured to join ON Demand from Tabletop Tactics by my son. He said ditch PlayStation plus and get this instead!

@Prometheus_Williams

4 ай бұрын

@@tabletoptacticsAre there any Codes for joining?

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

What do you mean by codes?

@Prometheus_Williams

4 ай бұрын

@@tabletoptactics Im sorry- discounts on purchasing Models.

I love both factions. Didn’t know who to root for!

Thank you.

Would love the recipe for those dark purple force weapons, those are exactly how I want mine to look

Just starting grey knights as my first army, waiting my inbound combat patrol ☺️

Nice video, even with the rules debacle. Are we going to be seeing any other narratives like the Tyranids/Votann y'all put out recently?

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Yeah we have more games like that on the way :)

Awesome game.

wow very diferent than your usual games. its much more lethal

Go Warsmith Beard! Bring down those pesky loyalists, The Spider's not invincible! Iron Within, Iron Without!

Beard getting to experience the misery of GK Librarian MW spam. My friend plays them and runs 3. Losing units to them without any interaction feels really bad.

I’m super excited to use the app I’m building up my dream 2000 point daemons army to use

GK are great again 🔥

Cool. Thanks for the game.

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching :)

just to point out that castellan crowe makes purifiers hit on 2s for purifying flame

Brother beard took it on the chin bless him XD need orcs vs grey knights :D

Iron within! Iron without!

"My stormbolters did nothing." I say multiple times every time I play GK.

Dark Obscuration doesn’t work against Vortex of Doom as the Vortex is an ability and not a shooting attack.

With regards to the league,which I want to join,do we have to stick to one list for the entire league or can we swap out units/detachments? Also do all games have to be 2k pts?

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Lists can be changed, Factions cannot 🙂 All games are 2k. The full rules pack is on the website, the link is in the description 🙂

Would l8ve to see those grey knights against triple c'tan hypercrypt. Maybe that's a list that can deal with c'tan

Grey Knights can pull units for teleport shenanigans EOT and deploy them on your 1st turn??? I know Lawrence said it’s in updated rules but I haven’t found it anywhere in the data slate. Perhaps I’m overlooking it? Please advise! The Emperor Protects.

Grey Knights vs their preferred enemy, went just about as should have been expected.

How could the spider betray Commorragh like that

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

I did play a game - it was so brutally one sided that we couldn’t release. I just don’t think it would be entertaining to watch me use them for the majority of the audience (who usually say my games are too one sided/I should be nerfed anyway).

@arcticwolf7229

4 ай бұрын

@@tabletoptactics that makes sense but now my archon has a score to settle

Grey Nights turned up had the iron warriors for a light bite , then warped on for someone/thing else to destroy.

*Shiny battle!*

Ignoring the mistake made on Dev wounds... Always mists the unit carrying draigo seeing as the purifiers were relatively safe in the back corner.

Hello guys, I am pretty excited about the league. Here in my country, the community is quite small, however I think there might be a lot of people excited to participate in the league and be part of a grander community. Is there a way for us to organize small events on a local level that will be part of the league?

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Something like this will be coming in a future update!

It’s annoying the FNP doesn’t trigger on dev wounds, it was the primary way of Mortals even being in the game at first. They even recognised it should with the custodes army rule change so I don’t know why they don’t just make it a flat across the board change cause it was accounted for in the beginning.

❤Chef- Brains behind TT.

So did CSM not have an overrage of deep strike at the beginning of the game?

Where can I find the helmet of the warpsmith

Can someone clear something up for me, do strike marines have a 2+ save? I’m out of the loop but they were savings AP 2 hits on 4s which seems really surprising!

@matthewcheeseman6453

4 ай бұрын

Yes 2+ armour save. You can also spend 1cp on truesilver armour and reduce incoming AP by 1, so they could have been saving AP2 on a 3+

@neofoxtail

4 ай бұрын

@@matthewcheeseman6453 fuck… ouch?

@niallharrison8180

4 ай бұрын

If they drop in cover as well it goes back to a 2+

@matthewcheeseman6453

4 ай бұрын

@@niallharrison8180 that sounds like...tactics

@arktheball

4 ай бұрын

@@niallharrison8180 didnt think cover worked better than 3+

Is it me or is GK only army that actually gets decent chance to get "Capture enemy Outpost" on turn 1 as opposed of it being just flat out impossible for any other army (on turn 1)?

Beard, maybe go Legionaires with MoE instead of chosen, trio of bikes perhaps?

@theStamax

4 ай бұрын

I think Chaos Lord + 5 Legionaires in a Rhino (all Slaanesh) is probably more efficient, but the MoE murderbrick with Legionaires is hella fun :D.

I might have missed it but what happened to flame head on Beards home objective. he was there in one shot then the terminators came down on it and he was gone. is there a rule that I missed that makes him die or is removed?

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

He was initially killed with the rest of the squad in turn 1, beard just kept him there as a reminder that the objective was still his due to the cultist special rule 🙂 and then removed him when the objective was no longer his

FINALLY I CAN SEE MY BOYS SLICE UP SOME HERETICS

Is 11 months old too young to get into 40k? My little one and I were watching ( trying to get him to sleep since it's past his bed time), but was still watching

Yaaasssss

App looking HOT! Is it possible to create your own private league in the app? That could also be pretty awesome. :D

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Coming in a future update!

Please don't rush your Venomcrawlers into melee again. They only get 6 attacks with no special keywords. 6 attacks on a model that's part of a squad is great, but on its own it's terrible. Compare that to the 12 shots they get at 36in range, especially with Sustained Hits 1 on a potential 5+. That's where they shine. Picking off tough infantry at range, especially with the buff they get for killing something. Obliterators get 4 Str9 D2 attacks in melee per model, but you wouldn't charge with them. Anyway; Chosen are still great, but I would suggest pairing them up with an Exalted Champion to get 2+ in melee and 3+ on their combi-weapons (including his own). He's effectively a buffed Chosen, with extra damage in melee and D3 Strength when he Dark Pacts. The Chaos Lord is still rather pricy, but he's a great way to smash something large, and if you pair him with Legionaries, he's especially nasty on an objective as he gains their "Veterans of the Long War ability, potentially allowing you to fish for Devastating Wounds, but definitely converting all of those misses. If you're giving them the Mark of Slaanesh for SH1 in melee, you might want to consider using the 0CP ability on "Unnatural Swiftness", allowing them to advance, shoot and charge just like Chosen.

We could have had Druhkari??? Cmonnn mannnn

Can you create your own events in the app? My club wants to run a league just for us and the app looks great. We would be keen to use it.

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

You can indeed create your effective own ‘mini league’ in the next update. Around two weeks from now the new Teams filter will become available. You will be able to create or join a ‘Team’ (which can be your club for example) and then you can filter the global leaderboard by your team, where it will re-rank you against each other (effectively creating your own mini league).

@jakebarratt453

4 ай бұрын

@@tabletoptactics That sounds awesome! Thanks for letting me know!

I'm guessing all the other games are on demand? Will we at least get the final?

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Correct, but the final is currently undecided. The liklihood is OnDemand, but schedules are always liable to change

@pandavikingguy6193

4 ай бұрын

@@tabletoptactics ok, honestly, thanks for replying! They don't usually do.

Are dev wounds and mortal wounds are not the same right?

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

That’s right, we missed this at the time. I’ll adjust my scores to a loss :)

@Gwlyddyn

4 ай бұрын

Only if you play Custodes. ;)

Grey Knights represent

GK player here, I'm sorry how is it that you can bring the removed units BACK on T1?? Want to understand so I can explain to others if I do that. Help please!

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

As units haven't started in reserve turn 1, they're eligible to be placed

A shame about the rules mistake, but great game anyways!

I'm a Chaos player and I don't think we deserve Armour of Contempt for 1cp

22:50 how did melta tendril did 7 damage?

@tomamies1654

4 ай бұрын

+2 at half range

Dragos ability 4+ on mw don't work on dev wounds anymore

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Yes this was noted in the pinned comment 😅

Algorithm!

No, thats a hard pass for me. Once the score is in, it final. Unless something malicious happened with certainty. GK would likely have won anyways. Ive had some tough breaks realizing my opponent did something wrong. Never asked for a take back though. Beard was also playing.

Rad

I soooo much dont like playing against Grey Knights.... :P

This is great but more old world please

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

Freeview will be getting one Old World report a month, or you can get one weekly by signing up to OnDemand 🙂 tabletoptactics.tv/subscribe/

I would love these videos if you didn't make all those daft noise when you are shooting or whatever, it makes it really hard to watch for me

@tabletoptactics

4 ай бұрын

This is how we enjoy playing the game, we don’t take our toy soldiers very seriously around here I’m afraid.

CSM are so weak now :(((

@Aodyri

4 ай бұрын

They are one of the strongest armies with the most wins. Oblits and FFs alone continue to be silly strong even after some point nerfs. The synergies and effects Chaos have are just fantastic. They aren't Aeldari strong, but they are good

@theStamax

4 ай бұрын

They are still absurdely strong. Possibly still top 5, but definitely top tier, with only Necrons and Black Templar being a grade above (And those are both mistakes on GWs part. BT because they didn't nerf them nearly enough and Necrons because they have some broken datasheets they didn't fix).

@Xirianek

4 ай бұрын

@@theStamaxHaha they have now 43% win ratio - tyranids only have 42% its strong?😅

@theStamax

4 ай бұрын

@@Xirianek if you are paying any attention to win rates at this point, you have a serious lack of perspective

Playing IW but using marks other than undivided? Shameful.

Very nice how y’all change the results to reflect the actual rules when you make a mistake, most other channels just apologize and move on

@thomasboston9818

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. All gents. If only the six nations worked the same way. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿