NEW Canyon Spectral - But Is It Better Than the Old One?
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Canyon have launched a new Spectral, intended to be the perfect trail bike, but is it better than the old Spectral? As big fans of the old bike, me and Jonny set out to ride the two bikes back to back to find out if Canyon have improved or broken the recipe for an awesome trail bike. Tune in to hear our thoughts after a day of riding both bikes.
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0:00 - 03:08 Intro and Background
03:08 - 06:05 Test Set Up
06:05 - 12:54 Geometry Changes
12:54 - 14:15 Mullet Option
14:15 - 20:08 Stability - K.I.S.
20:08 - 21:47 Travel
21:47 - 23:00 Kinematic
23:00 - 24:30 Stiffness
24:30 - 27:15 Other Changes
27:15 - 31:04 Conclusions
Stills - Roo Fowler
Riding Footage - Joe Norledge
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Also…..if you had a small in the last frame you got 29’s, if you went for a similar size frame you’ll get 27.5’s
Looks bloody nice that Neon colour. Good to see they haven't completely ruined it and just touched up a few things. No cables through the headset. 🙌 Canyon know what's up.
@paranoidandroid4270
4 ай бұрын
Moir and Jesse were both unable to defend their EWS/EDR titles on the new Spectral. That’s a problem.
@jamlee344
4 ай бұрын
@@paranoidandroid4270 except they were both on the Strive and it's completely irrelevant to anything?
@downtimepodcast
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, they've done a good job to be fair.
@mangoshake
4 ай бұрын
@@jamlee344 it's slightly relevant. I surmise that the they tested the Spectral at the EWS to see if they should keep it as what it was supposed to be: an enduro bike. But it proved to be too rowdy, even with Jesse overstroking the rear shock. Therefore, Canyon relegated the Spectral for something it is excellent at, and that is as a long travel trail bike. That's probably why they reduced the travel by 10mm. They wanted to make the distinction between the Spectral and Strive to be more distinct.
Hey, You talk about price but prev CF8(example) is full XT and grip2 where new one have grip and slx crank, and it's over 1,5kg havier? Am I right?
@downtimepodcast
4 ай бұрын
I'm no expert on the specs, but the old bike had XT/SLX mix I think, as the new one does. I believe the new one is Fox Performance Elite, which is GRIP2 as far as I know. I believe the new bike is a touch heavier due to KIS and some feature adds like downtube storage, but no where near as much as 1.5kg as far as I'm aware.
4 ай бұрын
@@downtimepodcast If go site and put this to bikes to side by side comparision you can see 14.28 vs 15,84 it is big diference. And in old one is xt crank ...
@downtimepodcast
4 ай бұрын
@ ok, I found the comparison you're making. Looks like you're comparing the old air shock equipped bike with the new coil shock equipt CF8 CLLCTV, so not really a fair comparison. I don't know for sure, but my guess is that to keep the price point, they had to use the SLX crank (also cassette). For me that would be no issue as I don't see the benefit of paying more for a crank that I can't really tell the difference. But if the spec/weight of the old CF8 is better for you personally, then maybe that's the one to buy! Especially as it's on offer.
Would you buy the old Spectral CF 8 for $800 off verse buying the new CF 8?
@downtimepodcast
3 ай бұрын
I think it depends what's important to you. The old bike is a great bike too. If you want to save some money and aren't interested in having in-frame storage, the ability to switch between mullet and 29, or increased stability from KIS and the longer reach, then go for the old bike. If all or some of those things are important to you, and you can afford it, then you might be better off with the new version.
@sultanabran1
3 ай бұрын
the old one for sure. nothing is ever as much or as big as what reviewers say it is. nothing is night and day difference.
@BatkoBrat
3 ай бұрын
Get the old one. The difference is 3000$ and the new bike won't be anything spectacular compared to the new one. It's basically the same bike with a few cool things added, but not worth it.
I am 182.5 cm and my inseam is 88.5, so I am exactly between 2 sizes. I just don't know which length is best. can you give me advice on this?
@downtimepodcast
4 ай бұрын
I'd say, think about what you value most in your riding. Do you want a bike that's more stable and confidence inspiring, especially at speed? Then go for the larger of the two sizes. Do you prefer something that's a little more playful and manoeuvrable, especially if you're mostly riding slower, tighter trails, then the smaller of the two would be the best bet.
@FungalHorror
2 ай бұрын
The 2024 sizes are a lot closer than the '23 and have more overlap too. I was smack bang between M and L on the 23 frames with my stumpy tyrannosaurus legs whereas the sizing on the new bike put me in a much better position to pick
@thom99
2 ай бұрын
I‘d do L probably
How tall are you guys?
@downtimepodcast
4 ай бұрын
About 5ft7
You know it's time to buy a bike when its almost identical substitute, knocks off a quarter of its price.