Makes me LOL when the haters say it isn't powerful enough. What nonsense, 100 horsepower not enough? Seriously? Despite me initially being against the change to a smaller diameter front wheel the reality in the real world is that unless you genuinely spend 95% of your time off road you really don't need a 21 inch front wheel - the positives on the road way outweigh any negatives. I am 99% on road (I have a 2016 non AS AT) and should I manage to convince myself to get rid of it this 19 incher AS manual with a quickshifter would be my no 1 choice. Really well made review as well, BTW 👍

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Cheers Bud

@hillkiran

3 ай бұрын

I am one of the ones miffed at the 19” front. I have a 2019 ATAS. I have been looking forward to upgrading to the 1100 with cruise control. I wish I did more time in the dirt, and again I wish that most of the dirt was so technical that the 21” in front gave me an advantage. But alas it’s not so. Even so, I do some technical stuff and am glad that my big bike is more capable than the GS in those conditions. The 21” front is the only thing that makes the Honda better than the big BMW. So if I get a new AT, I’ll get the no AS. And be a little more fuel insecure than I am now, I won’t have the extra range.

@DaleMt09sp

3 ай бұрын

Took out the transalp today to see if it’s staying on my shortlist had 120mph Indicated out of it at 90ish bhp plenty for most sadly they didn’t have a Africa twin for demo waiting for the 2024 models would be the L for me don’t want dct

@Speedytrip

3 ай бұрын

Agreed and it definately doesn't feel like 100hp. I had a 2017 and 2019 and even the 95hp version was so much fun and never felt like it needed more!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

You can get a Manual AS in the UK

Cheers Tony, great review! 👌

Thank you for the very detailed revie👍. You just sold me Africa twin adventure sports dct ❤❤

Fab review Tony, best I’ve seen from the bunch. Excellent quality, sound and camera work 👍 really enjoyed that cheers Nick

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Cheers Nick

Brilliant Tony! Looked like the perfect climate, roads & bike👌

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

It was!

Excellent review Tony. Thoroughly enjoyed it 👍.

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Awesome, and I totally agree with the comments regarding horse power.

A great review Tony. What a lovely location for the test. I had never considered the AT as I thought it was too tall. You are the same dimensions as me so it will fit. 100bhp is plenty. I went from a 1200 mutistrada to a 950 and never missed the power. I will consider the Africa Twin when I come to change.

great review tony

The first time I will seriously be able to consider one (with the optional low seat). Thank you Honda! Great review.

Great review. It will be very hard to depart from my 2016 AT standard but i also got older and the body is now ready for a more relaxed and enjoyable ride. The 2024 AT sport DCT looks like that type of bike.

Awesome video, I am thinking about getting an AT. This video is helpful for sure!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Nice review lads for down under I’ll have to wait another year or so on learners but yeah dct for me ❤ Camera work a1

Had the 21´standard with DCT and it was brilliant, appart from it being too high and the 21´´ front wheel making it feel ´´boring´´in the corners. Was thinking back then a 19´´ front and lowered body would be perfect, and here we are! Definitely trying it out. Did not enjoy DCS in auto mode but in semi auto it is fantastic.

As always ... a quality, professional, and real-world video .. Honda ... well done... on your research ....high percentage of riders are road based ...so lower seat height etc ...welcome The bike is still one of the best-looking Stay safe !!

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Cheers Andrew, much appreciated

Superb review. I’m seriously considering moving away from my GS to this. Great production values too. 👌🎥🏍️

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍o

@michsky46

4 ай бұрын

I got th e2022 model ATas with huge oil consumption, medium-big problem mate!!! Honda just did compression test and says all fine inside the engine. they try to avoid warranty I think

I recently bought the 21 inch front wheel ES Manual Adventure sports (I added the 2024 comfort seat) and absolutley love it. 6ft , 33 inseen. I'm not fussed about micro changes to the engine when this one is perfection to me. I also prefer the slighter taller bike.

thanks, I have been tracking the changes over the years carefully and it seems this one is the sweet spot. Hope they bring it to the US.

Such a beautiful bike. I know it’s subjective, but for me, hands down the best looking ADV on the planet.

I agree that making more of a differentiation between the models is a smart move from Honda. Added to the fact that the Standard model now has way more options available so you can retain the 'off road' performance of the current models, but spec it up to suit yourself.

That is a fabulous review Tony. Didn’t like its look at the NEC, but it looks sooooo good on the road. Will definitely try one to replace my ‘22 Tiger Rally Explorer. Thank you👍

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Yes it looks better out on the road for sure...

@davewash50

4 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto goes to show that big horsepower isn’t a necessity Tony

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Indeed

Cheers Tony, was waiting for your unique approach to this almighty bike, in love with my 2023 Africa twin adv Sport Manual. brakes are weird and my seat is hard as concrete 🤣🤣🤣...

Really like this new Honda good review 👍

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Cheers

Fantastic review Tony, I currently own a 2022 Yamaha Tracer 9GT and last year i had the unpleasant experience that someone decided to reverse into my parked bike so while it was with the insurance repairers i had the opportunity to ride the 2023 Africa Twin with the 21" front wheel and it was a pleasure to ride, the only thing that put me off as a 5'7" tall it was the height of the bike also i found the throttle to be a bit snatchy to my taste. But seeing this new 2024 AT with 19" front wheel and lower seat also DCT for the smoother throttle , i'm already sold on it. Cannot wait to ride one . Keep the great work coming!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Cheers, Sorry to hear about the Tracer, but Happy shopping!

@stefman4444

2 ай бұрын

Do you like the AT better than the tracer? I was thinking of either the 2024 ATAS or the Tracer 9 GT +...

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

@@stefman4444 I prefer the AT

I'm looking at getting back into biking after some 15 years. My last bike was a ratty XTZ750 which was (as you can imagine) like a hippo with a zimmer frame. I recently rode a short distance on a friend's '22 AT and I still have the grin on my face after several days! The thing felt like a magic carpet. 100 hp is as much as you could ever hope to use on virtually any road around the world unless you're intent on regular track riding or 100+ mph autobahn stints. This new AT would suit my plans for a forthcoming European jaunt with some friends. I'd get a manual box rather than the £1.4k DCT and spend the money on accessories and/or travel expenses. I'll be booking a visit to my nearest Honda dealer soon. *Very informative matter-of-fact review.*

Great review if I was changing from my 1200x dct crosstouer it would be this bike.

Great review, I think we all know you loved it. The 19 inch front wheel is the same size as the GS and no one says that isn't for off road, I think Honda have made a good move having both options.

@903lew

4 ай бұрын

To be fair the GS is quite frequently (rightly) criticised for being a very heavy bike for older gentlemen to use on the adventure of going to their local caff. That being said this bike seems very nice. Would I take it over a Tracer 9? Not sure I would.

@davidz8

4 ай бұрын

I did a two mile round trip to my nearest cashpoint this morning on my T7, took me longer to get dressed😀@@903lew

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

😂

Great review Tony and well done for not just following those nutters at the front of the pack. It’s paid dividends!!!! Certainly a compelling bike and those looks👍

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Great, thanks for the info

Great review thanks. Currently have a GSA used for touring two up. Have always wondered about the ease of overtaking fully loaded with the 36ish less HP given the 23kg weight difference. I suppose a test ride is the only way of finding out!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, yes thats the only way I think. Have fun

@olddawg

3 ай бұрын

I did a trip to Ireland last year on the standard model. Two up, fully loaded with luggage - no issues overtaking at all.

The low seat height is such a good idea with that much weight for a shorter (5'9") like me, and others. Love the bike but forr my riding too big and heavy, and expensive. I thought my old RD07A was heavy too. But if that's your thing I think it's the pick of the bunch. Good review. I understand all the new changes. And great roads ( Cachopo)? . Off out there next month. Ride safe. 👍

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Yep that will make a difference to a lot of people I think, its feels a little less cumbersome. Good spot, we went from just West of Albufeira up through Querença to Cachopo, then back via Portela and Alcaria Fria

Great honest vid

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Cheers

Awesome review ….. thank you as always a honest thoughts and review from yourself What sort of mileage do you get from your A/T

@mancavemoto

Ай бұрын

I ride the 2023 Adventure sports and i've been averaging low to mid 50's mpg

Great review! My dream bike - doing a test ride next week as part of the AT Roadshow. Then its just nibbling away at the Mrs 😂

@mancavemoto

Ай бұрын

Have fun!

As an Africa Twin fan myself I really appreciate that finally it comes out of the factory with a 19 inch front! It would be amazing if we see some day the standard AT with a 19 inch or some of the middle weigh adventure segment (like the TransAlp) but I doubt it will ever happen. After all almost 20 kilos difference would accommodate the needed protection and minimalist luggage as well. Wonderful review as always, Tony! The roads and views were magnificent as well...I guess Spain or Portugal?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I think Honda will keep the 21 on the standard bike to keep a differentiation. Yes we were in Portugal, not far from Albufeira

Am having the 2023 Adventure sport Manual with Quick shifter with a 21 front but really miss DCT as my previous 2 ATs were DCTs. am contemplating on selling it for a 2024 DCT but debating between a standard vs Adventure sport. Obviously wont be doing extreme off roads like Kirian Mirabet but the shorter front suspension of the AS keeps me off.

I really enjoyed that review Tony. I tried it last week at my dealer and own a 2021 ATAS DCT and I fully agree with your conclusions. Personally I found that the engine felt different past 4000rpm only and I didn’t particularly appreciate the louder intake and exhaust noise. I’ll keep my 2021 though but it’s purely for personal reasons. Also, I fitted her with Continental TA3s and it made her much more flickable and confidence inspiring in the front. How about a video where you ride yours and this one back to back with similar tires brand and model for a more in-depth comparison? The weight is going back up too. The 2018 was 253kg as well.

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Arnaud, yes I don't see a reason to switch unless you are unhappy with the older model. Tyres can make a massive difference. I'm hoping to get one for a couple of weeks to make a deeper comparison, but its unlikely i'd be able to match the tyres.

Looks like I will have to get a test ride brilliant Tony thanks for the review, wonder how much my 2021 Sport is worth and how much I can twist some arms 😂

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Haha yep get twisting!

Really useful review, as I think my riding needs and style are probably very similar to yours. One thing though, what was that last road on the video? I’m asking because I am thinking about hiring an AT in Portugal this year.

@mancavemoto

Ай бұрын

Cheers, I think the part you're referring to is the N2 from Barranco Do Velho to Machados. North East of Vilamoura on the Algarve

Nice review Tony, it may just tempt me away from the KTM1390 SA in 2 years..... maybe!

Nice review Tony, when is the new for 2024 Standard AT with ES review coming?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

As soon as I can get hold of one!

It looks a superb bike and an excellent video thank you. Personally, I would say it is 10kg too heavy and £2k too expensive. A very tempting offering from Honda mind you...

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Yep the price makes other bikes look better value. It’s down to what gets you in the feels I guess

Unfortunately I’m not happy with that front wheel change. I wish I could choose to 21” for the Adventure Sports model too. Good think I bought mine last year. But still, I wish Honda release the 21” option for the next years to come.

Sweeeeeet! I love this review. I'm a hair shorter than you, and I will certainly appreciate the seating on this one (perhaps still with the lower seat). I need to get the proper feel of the machine, and perhaps even compare it to a 2023 with a 21 inch front wheel. I still see room for improvements: They should be able to lower the weight while maintaining good handling, stiffness etc, more Oumpfh! can be crammed out of the engine without any other downsides. An even more efficient engine + gearbox combo (still thinking DCT) should be totally within reach. Extremely high on my "Want!" list is backlit buttons and a bloody radar!! Also some of things that you have to pay extra for they should be able to include from the start. Today I think that they know way too well what people need/want and are prepared to pay extra for. If they were a slight bit more customer oriented they would include it from the start in the base package, and they would get even happier customers. (They would still make sh*tloads of money off of the Africa Twin.)

Love my 2021 ATASes!

@forestmotoadventures

Ай бұрын

Me too ❤

what a beauty. Honda simply the best.

I am more convinced now of getting one , probably in 2025. I want a reliable bike & DCT is a step up. Most important I don’t want to baby the bike like my Diavel , Busa & GS previously. One bike , it will be left in the sun & rain, but I will never compromise on its maintenance. It’s almost 60k here in Singapore but a bargain compared to the 88k Gs 1300.

@AT2021Rocker

3 ай бұрын

I absolutely love my 2021 ATAS! Great on hwy and superb off-road!

@DaleMt09sp

3 ай бұрын

From ones I’ve seen they don’t wear their miles that well unless you keep up on maintenance washes etc

I owned a 1000 dct, put on a 19" front. Made the bike ride better but the geometry wasn't right. Spoke to Honda UK at the Nec about the 21", they said it was something they may change but don't know when? This was back in 2018. Sold my Honda sadly, regrettably, and miss it a lot. So maybe this may be the new machine soon. If only I could justify the price!

How would you compare the 2024 ATAS to the 2024 Tiger 900 GT Pro?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I've not ridden the new Tiger yet, still waiting to get one one. The Tiger has got more kit as standard and its cheaper, so it will be an interesting comparison.

Beautiful bike. The subtle styling changes for 2024 with the wheel and colour scheme, in my opinion doesn't look as good as the already excellent 2023 MY. Wanting to buy one, I found a brand new 2023 AS ES DCT with an extra pack at a Honda dealer and went for that!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Nice, the 2023 bike is definitely a looker

Fantastic review mate and superb production. Could well be my next bike now they've made those changes, especially the front wheel. The new GS isn't really doing it for me, especially the price. 👍 FB

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

How long does it take to load the TFT screen to the main menu when you switch the ignition on ? Does it still showing confirmation to click on OK button ?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Yes thats no different to previous models, but to be honest its never bothered me

I had the 2016..great bike! If I'm ever in the market for one again, lack of adaptive CC would be a deal breaker. I have CC on my Tracer 9GT, and while it's a good temporary rest for you wrists and better than a throttle lock, drivers on freeways and expressways can't maintain a constant speed to save their ass. Just my luck that the 9GT+ came out with adaptive CC the year after I purchased my GT. 😝Didn't see that one coming.

@mancavemoto

Ай бұрын

Apparently there has been a patent lodged by Honda, so we may well see ACC in the 2025 model?

hi, what do you think about Honda NT1100? I'm currently between these two machines. Do you have a favorite here? I often ride with a pillion passenger and 80/90% asphalt. thanks in advance!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I like the NT1100 a lot, but for me it’s a 100% tarmac bike. The AT offers a bit more room for a pillion, but the real benefit would be the electronic suspension. Setting the preload at the touch of a button beats messing around with c spanners!

Wow ❗ Awesome bike ✅

does it comes with quick shifter for ups and downs in manual ?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Not as standard, Quickshifter is a £297 option

Does the bike automatically lower (or get softer) at stops with the new suspension?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

The suspension softens, so you get a little more sag, but it doesn’t ‘lower’ as such

Good review, cheers. I would prefer a TransAlp AS in this spec at a more sensible price of £12,300.

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I wonder if they will offer an alternative spec on the Transalp at some point. They obviously want to keep some seperation between the TA and AT, but that may end up just being DCT?

@splodge5714

3 ай бұрын

£4,000 separation would be fine and the Trans Alp being smaller and lighter is all I need.

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

@@splodge5714 Transalp is a great bike and is definitely a bike I’d buy

Has the switch gear and dash all remained the same as before ? I found it really annoying and it was one of the main reason I sold my 22 model ...

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Yep anything I haven’t mentioned is all the same as 2023. Switch gear, TFT etc

@peternicholas602

4 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto Ok thanks for letting me know , but thats a shame...

I wish Honda made a manual version with shaft drive.I’ve had 3 large capacity adventure bikes with shaft drive- an XLV750,R80GS ,R100GS. Chains are a pain and you have to have a centre stand.

Hi Tony, I was under the impression that it was only the DCT on the AS that was going to be available in the UK, are you able to confirm please. Cheers. Paul.

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Hi Paul, AS is offered in both DCT and manual in the UK. 👍

@DaleMt09sp

3 ай бұрын

I was in Honda today and the rep told me the adventure sports is just dct he must be wrong which is nice as I would want a manual

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Afre you in the UK Dale? If so Adventure Sports ES is definitely available in both DCT and Manual

@DaleMt09sp

3 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto yeah uk it was staffs Honda I went to and was obviously misinformed

do you recommend the dct or manual?

@mancavemoto

Ай бұрын

I love the DCT and would always recommend someone to try it

Wish you guys would say where are and what roads youu are on

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

The launch was on the Portugese Algarve, most of the time you don't know what roads youre on as you're just following the guide riders/pack!

@flexywing

3 ай бұрын

Thanks@@mancavemoto

At 71 I'm still riding my 2010 Harley Electra-Glide Limited and my 2008 KLR650. With 55 years street and trail riding, and with 14 and 16 years riding the same bikes I would like to buy a new Touring Dual Sport bike but, the One feature that I would really like to see, for some reason the Honda, BMW, or Yamaha engineers don't seem to understand that it's really needed on big Dual Sport bikes, a Reverse Gear. We don't need is more electronics, adaptive cruise control and blind spot monitoring what we need is a Reverse Gear. Can somebody explain to that to the engineers how hard it push your 450 plus pound bikes around when your solo riding and you get crossed up in some deep ruts or buried in a mud water crossing.

The Africa Twin is almost certainly the best looking Adventure Bike on the market today (KTM should take note) and the Adventure Sport in the RWB colour scheme with the gold rims looks really good and is the one I'd buy, the only negative is from what I understand we will only be able to buy a DCT gearbox equipped bike in the UK which would rule it out as replacement for my current Multistrada Enduro.

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

It sure is! and no it ‘is’ being offered in both manual and DCT in the UK

@IanSixbikes-by6ei

4 ай бұрын

Good to know we will be able to buy a manual version in the UK, I can see the value of a DCT on a Goldwing but not convinced it's the way I'd want to go with an Africa Twin.

@IanSixbikes-by6ei

4 ай бұрын

Good to know we will be able to buy a manual version in the UK, I can see the value of a DCT on a Goldwing but not convinced it's the way I'd want to go with an Africa Twin.

@IanSixbikes-by6ei

4 ай бұрын

Good to know we will be able to buy a manual version in the UK, I can see the value of a DCT on a Goldwing but not convinced it's the way I'd want to go with an Africa Twin.

@IanSixbikes-by6ei

4 ай бұрын

Good to know we will be able to buy a manual version in the UK, I can see the value of a DCT on a Goldwing but not convinced it's the way I'd want to go with an Africa Twin.

Only things that puts me off are the electronic suspension, I'd prefer the cheaper regular suspension. I also think the twin screen TFT+LCD display is now very out of date and needs updating to a single display. Having the speed showing in two places at once is very odd, especially as they don't update at the same time.

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

Fair enough, but I think the ES is very good. The whole point of having the second display is so that you can use the whole TFT for navigation for example, and still have a speed displayed.

@Otto-AutoPilot

4 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto I appreciate that re the display, but there are plenty of existing display options to include selectable vital info in the corner(s) of the screen when in Nav mode. They're saving money by sticking with an old system is all, I get it, just not ideal. Great channel and content by the way, thank you.

Which DCT mode was selected for the ride?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I switched around during the day, but it was predominantly Sports 2 mode

Hi What’s the jacket and pants pls

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Hi Beverley, its a Rev'it Offtrack 2 jacket and a pair of Klim Switchback Trousers, or pants if you want to stay native ;)

Finally a true GS1250 competitor.

@nikoscosmos

4 ай бұрын

We have now moved on to the R1300GS...

@alexstan5358

3 ай бұрын

Not close, weather protection is faar behind,controls are two generations behind, weight is same as Big GS with higher centre of gravity only advantage is that is better for taller people than GS(like me)GS still rules them all… P.S BMW is much easier to service and parts are cheaper than Honda!

@razorwired130

3 ай бұрын

@@alexstan5358 - Price of the loaded ATAS is $10K cheaper than the loaded GS. My ADV bike is one of many bikes in the garage. No reason to overpay for the GS.

I think 90% of africa twin owners should choose this version. Id stick with the 21” but I wish homda increased the valve check to 40000km at least, its an adventure/touring bike, at 24000km some need one expensive valve check per year.

I wonder that can you try between 50-70 kmh withour hands and handle bar shaking or not again as old version?If you can test that it will be my pleasure..Because It is cronicle problem. I had 2020 ATAS and my friend has 2021 ATAS,also I have new 2023 ATAS and problem is same.. Between 50-70 kmh handle bar shaking even I tested after my new 2023 ATAS after getting from Honda Shop again same problem with 0 km new for ATAS.. It is cronicle problem for whole CRF1100L AT.. It is not related tyre or balance or top case etc..Unfortunately Honda is not doing anythingelse about the problem..

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I’ve tried it on the 2023 model I ride, and didn’t experience it.

@yavuzt9341

3 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto good but I have even 2020,2021 and 2023 model too.. Now at service again for this problem that I dont beliceve they can solve the problem..

The legendary honda 🤌❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

Well, it was never the cheaper option, but it looks good. Surprised there's no radar.

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Thats true and that continues. I was surprised about the radar too, I did see it in some plans a while ago. Maybe thats the 2025 MY update?

I like the 19'' front wheel. I really do like the look of the AT, but the price is too high. I am an AT fan, too. The best-looking in its class. Nick

Great review as always ☺️. Makes you think that this is the bike Honda should have put out a few years ago and just skipped the NT which seems to get pretty much it’s decent bike but boring reviews.

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, in reality its a different riding experience (and overall bike) to the NT1100. The Nt is actually a much better bike than you first expect, its a great mile muncher, but a good twisty carving machine too

LOL "It's amazing what a difference 2 inches can make". That's the thing with us men - 19 or 75, we will always be kids!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

😂😉

Seems a bit heavy and expensive nice to know you can get it in manual as I was told You couldn’t Tried the transalp with a quick shifter today which is around 9750 and is a very decent bike by all accounts is this worth 7k more with a few extras who knows sadly they didn’t have a Africa twin demo for me to try not even old stock one thing I’ve noticed about Honda as well as they don’t give anything away no deals to be had like on ktm’s triumphs etc

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Yep, something you have to expect with the Africa Twin. I love the dct, but it adds almost 10kg to the weight, albeit low down. I'm a fan of the Transalp and in reality its all I need, bung some heated grips and a quickshifter on it and youre ready to go. Maybe Honda don't need to discount to sell bikes ;)

@DaleMt09sp

3 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto this one had enduro pegs on that fed vibrations up my boots doubt the normal ones would do that It’s a little bit peaky but probably better for it for road riding And the horn to indicator location is daft but I soon got use to it other than that very good bike at 6-3 it’s one of the first screens that felt fine out the box no buffeting it didn’t have heated grips or hand guards on it but it did have a quick shifter the gearbox is super smooth even going into first from neutral and on the selling point it’s only the alp and twin that appeal to me the showrooms can be quite a dull place 😂

the small wheels looks horrible on it. with my Africa twin I have huge oil consumption and looks they won't sort out the problem, so will have to take to the court

So you get a smaller front wheel, and less suspension travel with more weight! Great

Good job 👍🏻, honda have finally admitted that the ATAS is predominantly used on the road as a tourer (by those who like the look of adventure style bikes) and fitted a 19” front wheel with a wider tyre and more planted feel. Purist will bemoan the 19” wheels disadvantage offroad whereas the majority of ATAS riders don’t ride offroad hardly if ever and will appreciate the advantages on the road (just like the tubeless wheels 👍🏻). And to all those bemoaning the 19”er, buy the standard AT.

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

I think it’ll be almost as capable off road with the right tyres. It’s still got a decent amount of travel and ground clearance

@guille_snapshooter

4 ай бұрын

i agree 100% with you here, and with honda for the change. you only loose the benefit of the 21" on fast riding sand, and rocky terrain, but if people are on those terrains with the ATAS, the main problem will be the weight and size, not the wheel. this new ATAS is way more approachable and honest with is purpose

@Skiamakhos

4 ай бұрын

I just think it's ironic that the "Adventure Sports" model is the less capable bike for adventure sports.

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

To me Adventure Sports means exactly what its aimed at, a more 'sports' performance

@Skiamakhos

3 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto adventure sports is off road sports though, not on road. What's the adventure staying on the road?

Damn fine revenue Tony.

@mancavemoto

4 ай бұрын

If only 😂😉

@stevesteve1965.

4 ай бұрын

Bloody auto spell 🙄​@@mancavemoto

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I knew what you meant ;)

I have ALWAYS stated that a perfect bike for me would be Africa Twin Adventure Sports with 19 inch front wheel as it would make the handling better, the center of gravity lower and make the bike more approachable. It is great to see this change finally arrive!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Well there you go!

South of France?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Portugal

otherwise the bike looks awesome; I have the black 2022 atlas, but would never buy adv with small wheels at all...

From the intro I was thinking this sounds really good in terms of the reduced height and improved road handling. But how the hell does a smaller wheel and reduced travel result in increased weight, on an already heavy bike?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I havent established yet where the extra weight has come from, but i've asked the question. Althought to be fair its not enough to be noticeable.

All it needs now is an alloy frame.

I am new to the bike world - 45 years old portuguese on my way to buy a bike. I will go AT dct - for a beginner it seems to make sense. Love the channel - love your reviews. I like the fact that you are “sensible”. Keep the great work.

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Either bike would be great, DCT doesnt necessarily make it easier as a beginner, there are a few things you have to be aware of with it.

@fredito8242

3 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto which one do you prefer? Manual or DCT?

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

@@fredito8242 I prefer the DCT

That exhaust is massive, could lose 10kg changing that out 😂

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Its big, but not that heavy to be fair.

It took Honda only nine years to realise this bike should come with 19in front wheel and tubeless tires.

cool supermoto look. Just needs a beak

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

🤮 no beak for me me 😂

@razorwired130

3 ай бұрын

Needs a different colorway in the ATAS. That red, white and blue look like a 1990's throwback - garish and cheap.

They have differentiated it right into the NT1100 which is £4000 cheaper.!!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Hardly, the NT1100 has a 17 inch wheels which are cast, no IMU, less ground clearance, less travel etc etc Its a pure road bike

damn, its getting heavier...

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

A touch yes, havent discovered why yet

@ohkey2999

2 ай бұрын

@@mancavemoto how's the center of gravity?

@mancavemoto

2 ай бұрын

A little lower than previously thanks to the smaller front wheel

I really wanted a ATAS, BUT DO NOT want DCT, the USA market is only offered DCT, if and when it will show up……. Very disappointed in Hondas marketing!

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

Thats a shame, maybe they will change that, it seems they did for the UK

@razorwired130

3 ай бұрын

You can get an ATAS in the US WITHOUT a DCT. Why you would want to is another question. The DCT is AT's calling card.

500+ pound bikes do NOT need a 21" front wheel

Disappointing weight though

@mancavemoto

3 ай бұрын

I agree, i was surprised it had gone up slightly