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I think if the teaser sketches had not been so banging with those maniac angles and lines and the yellow/silver colour scheme, people's opinions would not be as harsh as they are now about the design. Yes, we all know that bikes on sketches and actual production bikes look different, but Honda seemed to properly make all of us excited at first, and then let us down a bit too much with the actual design.

@stubbingtonmarigold3032

Жыл бұрын

Well they can’t make a huge marketing push with just a new engine/frame/tank .... they said new motorcycle- that was a lie.

@MH5tube

Жыл бұрын

the teaser sketch looked like the 790 Duke prototype

@justinmiller3294

Жыл бұрын

@@MH5tube I was gonna say this. It looked almost exactly like a Duke in the sketches.

@generalyellor8188

Жыл бұрын

@@Keeta381 Sure, if you want all the unreliability and lack of a convenient dealer network that go with those brands.

Жыл бұрын

It looked like a Duke. It looked like the cb500f. It looked like a daelihm...it looked like a mt07. It looked like so many other motorcycles... That is the issue with it...a perfectly built meh machine. Just like the cb1100es

Well, everything else is understandable, but the design is boring. you know what it is

@MrFoxfire510

Жыл бұрын

It’s probably planned. They will need leeway for the generation refreshes to make it look better. If it looked great out of the gate they would have no where to go during the generation changes.

@MrTheMrLol

Жыл бұрын

i think its just build too mutch to be a competitor to the MT-07. It might be the better bike or the better choice, but i dont desire it... Its like a VW Golf, great car but kinda bland. Also imo the CB650R is one of the best looking bikes around.

@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel

Жыл бұрын

I know looks like the same as the rest of these boring naked bikes with not the best looking headlight. I would love if they made it look like a street tracker. These bikes just need better lines.

@stanleyblazeraznik6047

Жыл бұрын

Honda built a cheap Suzuki and not a KTM clone to keep the price down and the design is hideous.

@canonbuster287

Жыл бұрын

Same headlight design with Honda CB650F & 500F🤣

I am going to buy a Honda CB650R before they sell out as it seems the manufacturers are killing off the 4 cylinders. I love the Neo Cafe Racer look, the exhaust system and the lack of electronic gizmos on the CB650R.

Can't wait for CBR750R and CB750R, with neo cafe look

@marowak87

Жыл бұрын

exactly - if those models would pop up with this engine - insta buy for me :D

@intensegamer7559

Жыл бұрын

Not gonna happen. It‘s still Honda we are talking about. Those bikes would be great imho but Honda (for many years now) reliably refuses to produce models I care about 😉 Mark my words

@nocapoca5313

Жыл бұрын

I am waiting for a CB1100

@elijahjohnston3172

Жыл бұрын

Now theres a bike id go into debt for

@alm4132

Жыл бұрын

750 Transalp????????

I'd love to see a retro version of this bike. Something similar to the Z RS range would be awesome!

@jaybosher6144

Жыл бұрын

The z rs beats this by a mile. That i4 is better smooth and the style is top notch. But this retroed would spank the z650rs

@Cui0528

Жыл бұрын

@@jaybosher6144 He might mean the z650rs which is direct compiteter

@Cui0528

Жыл бұрын

leaked photo showed there are 4 variants of the new 750 platform , which are transalp , naked , retro and race . So i am looking forward to see the retro version too

@paulconnell1309

Жыл бұрын

And an RR version...

Ive had many many engine types and to say after buying a tracer7 this is my favourite ..fast enough good on fuel pulls and pulls any gear...and sounds great...atb dave

we're going have to accept that the new 270 twin is the new UJM.

ABSOLUTELY everything you said makes total sense to me. This bike is definitely the front runner for ending up in my garage. The naysayers can get something else.

@DB-sd3cw

Жыл бұрын

🤡

@joecamel6835

Жыл бұрын

@@DB-sd3cw 🤡🤡

@bonomeldrink

Жыл бұрын

I'm seriously considering swapping my 4 cyl CB600F Hornet from 2012 for this new 2 cyl 750 Hornet. I mean the top end and high revs have been a blast to bang through the past three years but in real world situations I'm missing the torque down low. It just seems more usable in terms of acceleration at kinda legal speeds (my current hornet does 100 kmph in first gear). Bluetooth navigation and music controls through the dash sounds like a blast too. Also being able to fit the touring pack for travels to wherever in Europe, test ride is planned for mid January next year.. Only thing I wonder if it would be possible to fit a 180 rear tire after factory tire is worn down. I think it would be worth sacrificing some fuel mileage for highway stability and beefy looks. But I'll test ride it first.

@ThermicLight

Жыл бұрын

@@bonomeldrink - Why is a 180 tyre all that important? The SV650 has a 160 tyre too and people are more then content with the performance.

@bonomeldrink

Жыл бұрын

@@ThermicLight I'm not sure actually. I imagine it might improve stability on the highway. But I'll take a test ride in mid January, if it rides great in corners and highway with a 160 tire I'll probably keep fitting those. Can't wait to try it out

I think you nailed the comparison in the first video. You compared the CB750 Hornet to it's real competitors on price and naked roadster bike type . I still prefer the CB650R and Trident's round headlights, but if I was in the market for a middle weight naked the CB750 would be on the list to test.

I have the old hornet 09 , and still running great never been boring to me.

Good response Rob. As a Hornet 900 owner there’s lots of pluses to practical fun bikes like this. As far as looks I bet it will look loads better in person. Most bikes do.

Another great informative video! I understand the logic of the decisions Honda made and why they made them. I’m still not convinced by the Hornet though (especially the looks) and cold engineering logic doesn’t always result in the best characterful bikes. But looking forward to giving it a chance with a test ride.

@scottamolinari

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Honda is missing some mystique that other ehem... Italian products..... have, which the Hornet should have captured. The CBRs were getting closer. I ride a CB1kR. They are appealing to the eyes, lots of fun to ride and have a slight mystique to them for being that "Neo Sports Cafe" different.

This is the only Honda I have ever been excited about. Not sure where all the hate is coming from. Sure it’s not the prettiest (wish they kept the CB650 headlight), but it appears to be a ton of bike for the money. Good job Honda

@adamnagel7436

Жыл бұрын

KZread comments are almost all hate. Especially when it comes to motorcycles and cars.

The design lets it down. They should have put the parallel twin engine in the the CB650R. That is a really good looking bike.

@motobob

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good shout tbf

4cyl are great and they have their place, but modern 270° parallel twins are just so good. I want the lighter weight, higher torque, and even the noise. I’m especially glad this is a 750 instead of another 650 and it’s making very good power. Game changer in Honda’s boring and rapidly aging lineup.

@MrTheMrLol

Жыл бұрын

"...boring and rapidly aging lineup". You mean like the Fireblade, an absolute spaceship, the CB650R, the only 650 4 cyl with stunning design, the Africa Twin and Goldwing, two legends unlike any other, CB500X, a unique lightweight adv bike with storage, the CRF300L, possible the best bike for world touring rn, the Grom and the Monkey, unique and in their own catagory and all their great dirt and off road bikes? You can call Honda many things, but not boring.

@johntheaccountant5594

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that Honda's line up was aging and boring. I cannot think of a model that hasn't been revised/improved in the last three years. We have have had nostalgia with the Monkey, also the DAX, the 500's and similarly the Transalp is coming as well as a CL350/500 Scrambler.

@mindspinn311

Жыл бұрын

Ok then “traditional” in most cases. I like a lot of their bikes, but few of them excite me.

The design is ok for me still have to see it in the flesh sometimes pictures do the bike wrong but the price is amazing for those specs owned the 1998 Hornet i love these bikes.

Hey Bob, thanks for another great Hornet video, I really appreciate all the info! I ride a 2017 CB500X with upgraded suspension and it's a great bike for country lanes. Honda really knows how to make bikes for their intended purposes. Cheers dude 👍🍻

@hex_surfer4588

Жыл бұрын

Have upgraded 2017 CBX and yeah - this handling manners together with 90HP engine and all this torque must produce tons of fun. Wheelie machine with practical sense 😁

I thought this was a great bike in your last review. And I still do :). Really smart, looks BETTER than some of the competition (and not as overdone!), and should be very satisfying not only to ride, but to ACTUALLY own. Thanks!

I had a hornet 600 back 2005-2008 and loved it. It was very nimble; great for lane splitting. I have a ducati now, but am interested to try this new Honda when it comes out.

Looking forward to the Retro variant and an R7 competitor!

I really like the Hornet on paper, I thinks it’s a great package and value for money also and I understand the cost-savings of parallel engines; however the looks are an acquired taste - I think at best it’s Honda-Handsome, but a bit safe. At worst - I might say the designers went a bit literal on the “hornet” body shape, the quad-dot headlights are a bit generic/ 2000s style, and the red frame paint reminds me of cheap, metallic red nail varnish. Apart from that, I think it’s great.

Oh yeah. Interesting tyre size. My 1996 Hornet 250 had a 180 tyre. One if the things I liked because it was a learner bike but had a 180 tyre. I'm in New Zealand.

@ilovetool1

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyXoz it looked cool because they still looked the same as the 600 Hornet. And didn't look like a dinky bike like all other 250s. Didn't make me stand out as a learner bike.

@chrishart8548

Жыл бұрын

​​@@ilovetool1 the fact it was a 4 cylinder really helped the 250 hornet. I think the Mt-07 is overall with a 180 tyre. from the back it's literally all tyre and no bike. but also when I see an Africa twin with a small number plate I think it looks ridiculous. its a huge bike if it has an 8x6 or a 7x5 plate it's just to small.

No motorcycle is boring. They’re just “ differently fun.”

I think you're right about the price with the Hornet. When you compare it to bikes like the MT07 and Z650 there's a lot more bang for your buck. Looks are important to me (but I bought a Tracer 9GT 🤔) and I just can't get over how boring it looks. It just reminds of the CB500f. I think the CB650R is stunning compared to the Hornet. At the end of the day with either of them you'll get Honda's renowned build quality and reliability.

That engine(twin), in the CB650R would've been great.

@billygraham2132

Жыл бұрын

No no no no no. The CB650R is the last middleweight i4 we’re ever likely to see. . And no, 900cc’s is not a middleweight.

I’ve put in my order subject to road test and seeing it the metal and what colour to choose probably the white or the black version

I thought it was a little frumpy looking but I saw the black one & it looks great! Gray is ok but forget white or yellow.

I would love a sports-tourer bike based on this frame - Honda tend to make good looking sporty bikes.

as a CB500F owner, its actually growing on me and when I upgrade next year I intend to test the Hornet against the CB650R and make a decision then. one thing that has struck me is that with the A2 remap available on the Hornet it might take away CB500F sales - after all its just another grand and then when you get your full licence you dont have to get a new bike

@shardlake

Жыл бұрын

I imagine that is entirely where this is headed, Honda are pretty much alone in the big 4 with 500cc A2 bike out of the box.

@DrivingTiMe121

Жыл бұрын

test cb650F not R..i`ve got cb650f and had the cb500f on loan other week..numbers on datasheets don`t do any justice to any bike. My experience is "cb500f likes it around 40-60mph,cb650f "i take the fifth ammendment!" if you want a bit more upright confy ride, get the new transalp...if you want sporty then go cbr650f. but don`t be fooled by numbers, test ride!

While it’s an exciting hint for things to come, with its level of tech at such an inviting price, I would have happily paid 500 more if they invested a bit of time making it look like either modern bike or a modern retro. This thing looks 5 years old before it’s even left the dealership, and being able to look at your bike and appreciate it is almost as important to me as actually riding it. I always park my z900rs cafe somewhere I can see it because I love looking at it!

Personally, I see Hondas as bikes you don’t mind wearing out. Utilitarian like a Honda Car. Other bikes you love to just sit and stare at as much as ride.

Awesome video, thanks for sharing!! I think it's an awesome bike, but every bike is a awesome bike!!

I am really waiting for the Transalp 😃 I hope with the DCT.

I bet it’s going to be great to ride

Really excited to see what the new TransAlp has in store. It'd be great to get a light weight version of the Africa Twin with all the tech, DCT et al.

I think the key comment I picked out of this video is that it makes absolute sense for the business. Yeah, sure but there was a time when manufacturers built bikes that made absolute sense for the customer. but who are we to be so righteous we are just the mugs that buy their machines that make sense to them and not us.

@DanTube2010

Жыл бұрын

It does make a lot of sense from a manufacturing point of view (parts shared across different models). But it does seem like they're passing some of that benefit on with a relatively low price.

@stubbingtonmarigold3032

Жыл бұрын

My attitude to this CB500.750f is did Honda cheap out on the chassis to save ME money, or did they do it to save HONDA money ?

@pggp273

Жыл бұрын

@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 I think we both know the answer to that and it certainly isn't in the customers best interest

Actually looks to be a fun bike. I prefer to ride a twin (or single) over an inline 4, except on a racetrack (and my race bike is an inline 4...), The power delivery is way more fun. I would absolutely expect Honda to release a fleet of bikes, covering about every category, with this engine.

The yellow colour with black frame is the best looking option.

In my opinion there is nothing worng with this bike. Overall and after a long time I think it will have a fair price. Consequently you will get exaxctly what you are gonna pay for. Thanks. Another great video.

From the promo vids I love the tone from this engine, closer to the Aprilia 660 than the yamaha cp2 in noise. I like this new trend of p2 innovation. I think this new investment into the mass market bikes is only going to benefit the high end when they have to justify increased prices and higher performance

To me it seems the ideall no nonsense bike - I'm sure the Transalp will outsell it a good few times over, and those prelaunch clips didn't do the mild reality any favours. But I like it, in part because it delivers much better performance, plenty for the road, than the cb500f or for that matter the old road nc750s. And for a standard Honda roadster it's pretty light - not the over engineered bikes they usually turn out. And I managed to sit on the one on the intermot display floor several times on wednesday and thursday, it is smallish but not cramped, highlight of the show to me (admittedly not the best intermot ever), and I might actually look to get one early 23.

@christiangrendel9893

Жыл бұрын

Thank God I read your comment Gary. I live about 200 miles from Cologne and due to work etc. almost forgot this important date. Know where I'm going tomorrow. Thanks a million 👍👍👍👍

Trident 660 for me out of the ones you mentioned here. The XSR700 would be my choice in this category.

@mindcave

Жыл бұрын

In Australia, we only get a watered down A2/LAMS version of the T660. What did we ever do to deserve this?

Bring it on in USA. Black frame, passenger / headlight trims, &, tank & trim ---- new paint / color of my choice --- my check off list 99% complete. Can't wait.

The Duke890 falls in the Z900 and MT09 category. These bikes make 100+bhp and definitly can't be compared with the Hornet. However, the Tuono 660 does come under the 650cc-750cc middle weight class regardless of the price. It would've been nice if you had made the comparison video including the Tuono 660 along with the CB750 Hornet, Z650, MT07, SV650 & Trident 660. Bcoz these 6 bikes are direct rivals for sure.

I love my CB500F so to me this looks like an exciting bigger brother!

@ed.t.hansen6499

Жыл бұрын

I have the 500x with more legroom, confy seat. Why the hornet downgraded?

Price point point....and competitors - spot on! I put a deposit on one. I really wish it had Neo Cafe vibe - like the Trident/CB650R.... (Cant see all that when you're riding though eh ?). Basically a CB500 + 1kg (I own a 2022 one) with 50% more power and torque... Cant wait to collect it in February.... assuming we're all still here.

@YoshiPipez

Жыл бұрын

I'm seconds away from reserving one! Going into my local dealer to be sweet talked into all the accessories haha

Can't wait to see what other models this engine makes it in too. That being said hopefully the price point is comparable here in the US.

Nooo the looks r waaay cooool!! Such an upgrade

I own a 19 plate cb650r and after 3 years of ownership am looking for a change of bike. I'm afraid this Hornet iteration won't be on my list of bikes to replace the cb. Previously id owned an SV 650 and an 865 Bonnieville and was sold on the looks of the cb and the inline 4.The Hornets looks are just so generic and the parallel twin is now so common place. I'm still wanting a characterful middle weight and looks like the Trident will be my next bike soon. Love the looks and the triple is just that bit more interesting in a market place full of twins. Think I might add the Guzzi 850 V7 to my list maybe an ex demo depending on price.

Man,the way I buy bikes is 180° different from what was described here! I absolutely buy according to the size of the engine! The price is almost irrelevant when I’m buying a long term dream bike!

@christopherfreeman3095

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. And if the tire size is too small to get premium rubber, its 100% a no-go. Claimed 94hp and a tire from a 250… Seriously, Honda?! Also, Honda = Japanese for “machine without a soul” so… yeah.

@ThermicLight

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherfreeman3095 - What is usually considered "soul" or "character" is just a euphemism for subpar. As apparently a reliable machine that performs well lacks soul for some reason 🤔

I like it, it looks like a Honda. it looks like my Honda 😁. looking forward to ride reviews, when do you reckon you'll be on it??

If Honda put this 750 engine in a new Transalp to replace the NC750X (& X-ADV) will there be a DCT version? Or will it be the end of middleweight DCTs?

I’m just excited for the Transalp.

Cb750 with the styling of cb350. That's the bike I want!

Price will be the key factor, that and doing several things well. Commute, tour and weekend fun in one package for a low price. Honda have never been the most exciting manufacturer but they get the boxes ticked by new customers.

@stubbingtonmarigold3032

Жыл бұрын

@ sub 8k I’m going to get one even with all of my disappointment- but I won’t believe Honda has made a great value motorcycle until I sign paperwork.

If this 750 is replacing the CB650 then it made more sense to have a CB750 (with the CB650 styling). Also, a Rebel 750 for £7500 would be more my cup of tea.

@martymcfly1776

Жыл бұрын

Not for me. I don't get the Rebel styling thing at all, and the front-end instability at high speeds on the Rebel 1100 is absolutely inexcusable. Honda should hang their heads in shame. I would really have preferred to see Honda do a CB1100F with the Africa twin motor, but arguably Honda made a smarter choice with Hornet. The MT-07 has always been the sweet spot for me, but the Hornet is a very strong competitor, depending upon the price when it lands here in Canada.

What does the bike sound like? I have yet to see a video of the bike with the sound. It's gotta have a good sound for me personally. Some bike arw ugly but have a beautiful sound and vice versa.

it's a bigger CB500F, a bike that's already pretty interesting to me design wise. I'm getting one, or waiting for that CBR750R.

It's not a bad bike, that's for sure. If you just look at the number sheets, I really think I could buy one... it just looks too much like a bigger CB500F, and I just can't look at it... If my bike doesn't make me look back twice after I get off of it, I dont want it...

I love the inline twin. I believe singles and inline twins should be the ONLY motorcycle configurations! Love my TB T120, awesome!

@mikethompson7046

Жыл бұрын

I like them too but I love a inline 4 too. Variety ist the spice of life :) I own a two stroke 125cc single And A 500cc sr500 My mother rides an MT07 twin And I ride a 600 Hornet pc36 inline 4 I love them all but the hornets Inline 4 is Just so exciting to rev out I love it

@j.d.mcginn6946

Жыл бұрын

I meant Triumph not TB.

Thanks Bob, really hope they bring it to the U.S.

I think the head light assembly is the only negative, doesn't matter as I will be holding out for a possible transalp.

Not a big fan of the front end. Looks too 2013 rather than 2023 etc. Would like to see a Retro "Neo" model with exact CB650R styling also much like Yamaha has XSR or Kawi has the RS models vs the regular models.

Using previous model names is generally accepted when the new model is slightly more improved, better or more posh. My perception in the case is the new model is a step down or at the very least not an improvement.

what about when the 650 ninja was 21kg lighter than the outgoing er6-f was that not slating the older one 🤔

good points!

im getting my license in january if everything is alright, what do you think this bike for the first one? (i ride a pcx 125 because my cars license allow me to drive bikes under 125cc in my country)

@motobob

Жыл бұрын

90hp is a big jump up from a 125, so it really depends on your temperament! I would guess it would be ok if you can resist thrashing it, but I need to wait til I get to ride it in November to confirm :)

@Brunojesus89

Жыл бұрын

@@motobob yeah i though the same, but before i got the 125, i never had a experience with that, so i learn with some motovloggers, some friends, and most important with myself. Know my limits and stuff... i think i will be secure but im gonna take a professional course with some pro riders here in portugal to have like extra safety and stuff. Sorry about the english i hope you guys understand me :D

They should have just called it CB 750. The Hornet moniker is related to real sporty looks which the current iteration doesn‘t have. It looks like a commuter bike. The 160 rear tyre means you don‘t have to lean it as much at same cornering speeds. What seems to be great at first glance turns out to be a bit of a bummer for sporty riding because more lean equals more fun.

You didn't mention the seat height of the new 750 hornet. Will a 5'8" bloke fit on it?

At least when it comes to Oz it will be full powered unlike the current Honda 650's which are completely neutered to half power (and 660cc engine limit for LAMS bikes) for the LAMS (A2) market. Pity about the style.

I have watched both your videos on this bike and you are correct about the price point and the customer decision. One thing I was thinking is people have been saying about the Chinese bikes such as CF moto, Benelli and Moto Moroni producing bikes at a great price and the Japanese are snoozing as they take market, probably more in Eastern /Asian countries, so maybe this is the answer to that, a good value 750 bike, so maybe your comparison bikes are only a European perspective.

Hot topic because it was the only new hot thing from the Intermot 😂 good timing for the marketing 👍🏻

I think Honda have done a great job with the Hornet, looks good to me and can’t wait to test ride one. Great couple of videos on the Hornet by the way.

@scottamolinari

Жыл бұрын

Same here.

I want it solely because that red/white/black colour scheme is 🔥🔥🔥

Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory is the only bike you need👌🏻Looks, quickshift, blipper, cruise control and power.

i am definitely buying this bike

This will definitely be my next bike, a nice upgrade from my CB650F - i’ve always wanted an MT07 because of the power delivery and torque but I couldn’t justify it with the old forks, minimal electronics and plastic build quality - especially the new model which I found insulting as they made it uglier and forgot to upgrade what people actually wanted (upside down forks, TFT, TC) This new Honda is pretty much everything I’ve wanted in a motorcycle.

@underworldringside

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha beast to ride forks are still good

@underworldringside

Жыл бұрын

160 rear wheel honda like a 300

Glad I bought my CB650R when I did. The only thing I'd want from the Hornet is the electronics package. RIP inline 4 naked bikes, guess it's gonna be P twin tractor engines going forwards under 1000cc. Yes, I know there are a couple triples out there. They are the exception though, and how much longer will they survive?

Everything you say at the beginning is true & yet the fact is, the inline 4 is still much smoother, nicer sounding & higher revving than the parallel twin. Imagine if we compared this 750cc parallel to a 750 inline 4 ? Well, you don't really have to imagine, you can look at the outgoing Suzuki GSX-S 750 - it would smoke it. Of course it costs more too. Sadly it looks like Inline 4's are moving up the price range, being reserved for the Z900s & GSX-S 1000s. All that said, I think Honda are to be congratulated on the price, with the economic situation how it is, their timing is perfect. Pity it looks so very bland. Here's to hoping the inevitable fully faired sportsbike version looks nicer ! For myself, very happy I got my CBR650R while I had the chance.

@ThermicLight

Жыл бұрын

I'd buy the CBR650R if only in my country they imported the fully powered version than only getting the neutered learner version. That said while I'm also partial towards I4's I'm thinking this new P2 might be more fun. Namely as the 650R is quite heavy. Especially when compared to the 750.

@graeme6539

Жыл бұрын

@@ThermicLight Are you in Australia ? They seem to permanently maim loads of middleweight bikes to make them 'LAMS'. Beats me why they don't just bring out both or offer restrictor kits. I guess it's the price you pay for not being in sync with other countries licencing categories. I do agree with you, on paper, this Hornet is a bit lighter, nearly as powerful & more torque than the 650 IL4s, so I don't doubt it will be as good/ better in many ways. But there's something about the IL4 + these new hornets are, not ugly, but certainly not beautiful.

@ThermicLight

Жыл бұрын

@@graeme6539 - That I am. The thing is though that it's only Honda which strictly offer LAMS only bikes. And while I know they discontinued the fully powered version of the 650F, due to poor sales, they didn't think to change their mind with the sporty looking 650R. Or as you said to at least offer an OEM kit for conversion. Meanwhile all the other manufactures, including Aprilia, offer both versions for full power or LAMS. Personally I don't especially understand from where all this hate towards this new Hornet is coming from. As you said it somewhat sits in an ordinary place in terms of aesthetics. My guess is some had set their expectations too high to begin with.

What's the bike at 35 second mark sv650?

Great follow up video. I think the hornet will be a great bike. I was going to buy an SV650 earlier this year but I think the new Hornet will now be top of my shortlist. On paper the value for money looks fantastic. I'm not 100% sold on the looks but I would say it looks bland rather than ugly. The MT-07 and the Z650 have the same angular styling. It will be interesting how long Honda hold the launch price in the UK. It's only £900 more than a CB500F and it undercuts all it's direct rivals. In terms of colour I quite like the white / red but would need to see in in the metal. The silver with the black frame looks too boring although the matt yellow looks OK. What is everyone's favourite colour scheme?

@shardlake

Жыл бұрын

Either of the Red Framed/Forked versions - White and Black - Black would just pip the White, if one had a longer order time than the other either would do :)

i need a sound comparison vs honda 650 4 banger. not just p-twin vs v-twin.

When it coming to Merica?

Boring design for sure but probably the best in its class right now! I have changed my mind before your video but I was prompt to tell I hated it at first sight. What made me change my mind is the red candy frame matching the upd fork color, the lightness, the simplicity/reliability/power of that new powerplant, the big tank for long range, the tech (even if I don't need it) and the list goes on... But because I believe the pillion won't be happy on that ugly skinny seat, I am looking forward to seeing the Transalp indeed, which makes more sense for me in my country Cambodia. Thanks for your videos. High quality content.

Where to get a rally comfy seat?

Will they do this with automatic gearbox?

The tire. The problem with 160 is that it’s the Cb500f swing arm and suspension.... the swing arm that Honda bragged about making thinner to save weight on the update a couple years back - and now they have doubled the horsepower right after cutting it down to only what was necessary on much less horsepower.

@ThermicLight

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Awful lot of speculation and assumptions for what you only assume will be a problem. I'd rather reserve judgement once the bike comes out to discover actual issues than non-issues.

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Honda could have done what they said they did - design a new motorcycle, but they didn’t.

I was really excited about the Hornet, and from a tech/engine standpoint I think it delivers, but… …the looks don’t do it for me, it isn’t ugly it’s just really plain, it’s almost like a refreshed CB650F.

Planning to buy MT-07 but on paper the hornet looks legit. Hopefully it going to be more fun than MT07

I tuned in to learn about the new Hornet, and as surprise bonus got to hear about nose and ear hair.

Looking forward to other bikes that use this engine. I would love a retro and something more upright (I want decent legroom and not to be leant over too much). Hoping that Honda doesn't down tune the engine too much. Not sure of the styling on this model especially that headlight. Would also like MUCH better luggage options. If I was in my 20s not my 50s I'd definitely consider this though.

I've got a 700 tracer (brilliant bike) but will most probably change for the hornet.

The original Hornet-Like the Fazer and Bandit-was a bitza bike. The sum of the parts made it excellent and cheap. I don’t see the same with the new Hornet, it’s designed from the ground up to compete with the Kawasaki/Yamaha 700/650. It will do that no problem, but it isn’t cutting the same edgy ground as the original Hornet. Not that it matters.

I think this is a great sign from Honda, it has power and technology similar to its rivals without the typical Honda price bump over everyone else.

I would love for the ptwin in the tenere700 to have these specs

how is there nothing on the honda website about the bike?

Do you think there will be a new mt07 ?

As an owner of a cbr650r the main reason I picked the cbr over the r7 is the four cylinder, sad to see it go.

i love twins, this timeline is great for me lol