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@akashsunil7464

3 жыл бұрын

this man reminds me a lot about Einstein he says i am not a communist an internationalist ,he says i am a scientist fore the world not for a country (duringWW2)IMAGINE THAT NEIL IS LIKE EINSTEIN I feel like that idk why

@akashsunil7464

3 жыл бұрын

@Astute Cingulus OK

@moses777exodus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, Lord-Jesus-Christ com

@lazyboi2373

3 жыл бұрын

@General Rico well the problem being that, while they are gods, the norse religion wouldnt coincide with the marvel version - maybe a branch of norse gods would exist in that universe. Granted, if you were teleported to the marvel universe id think a norse god would be the least of your worries

@petekelvin2736

3 жыл бұрын

@Lalate Beautifully said, I tell my folks these words everyday. good to save money but most people don't understand the market moves and tend to be misled in facts like this and always depend on money in the bank.

Girl: so what are we? Guy: i'd rather we explore each other's ideas in real time rather than assign a label to it.

@tinybabybread

4 жыл бұрын

Hey, that actually works out What compels you to need to label what you two have? You hang around each other a lot and get closer day by day til you just realize you're partners without having to point it out I'd say that guy's response is perfectly fine

@bernitaldown9136

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. That's honestly what I told a couple of girls in the past. It was true in what I felt.

@mosesreza4065

4 жыл бұрын

GIRL : DID YOU CREATE THE UIVERSE ??? BOY-;; NO . GIRL¸::THEN YOU ARE JUST AS STUPID AS I AM

@wilsons2882

4 жыл бұрын

thats how my relationship ended you dont have to label anything at all. let it flow. names ruined it. she named it so did i so did others- expectations and the whole shebang. it didn't had to be that way unless i too wanted it to end that way.

@marteung

4 жыл бұрын

Artistdini ooooooohhhhh hahahahaha! Good one!

so basically Neil doesn't give a sh*t.

@azharsofjan9181

6 жыл бұрын

Catota Precisely.

@Noisa

6 жыл бұрын

Lol no, it's that he hasn't seen evidence, so he won't waste his time with all the convolution, but at the same time is open to it, and mentally prepared, if it exists. People waste so much time on the unknown, they become out of touch with the now and known.

@theronquishow5837

6 жыл бұрын

Damn straight.

@JacobHayden911

6 жыл бұрын

Yep. Apatheism. Look it up!

@GustAdlph

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Catota, I think Neil gives a sh*t, he wants people not to use labels inaccurately.

" When one asks "Do you believe in God?", If I say yes or if I say no, you have learned absolutely nothing." -Carl Sagan

@yankeesdoubleheader2375

3 жыл бұрын

They learned your religious or non religious beliefs. For what its worth they learned something that happened to concern you.

@kushwanthsai49

3 жыл бұрын

@@yankeesdoubleheader2375 people who ask that are in most cases are pretty dumb

@ILoveLuhaidan

2 жыл бұрын

They learned something quite valuable actually. If you are atheist, they can show you the truth.

@unkownoflife5959

2 жыл бұрын

@@ILoveLuhaidan Id say the other way around.

@1999_reborn

2 жыл бұрын

You’ve learned whether or not they believe in god.

What he calls "atheism", I would rather call "anti-theism".

@metalrules6193

3 жыл бұрын

His whole talk is nosense he doesnt know the terms. Sry for bad manchester united

@osmq4287

3 жыл бұрын

What would be the difference?

@grayfox6930

3 жыл бұрын

@@osmq4287 one simply doesn't believe (Atheist) and the other actively attacks others for believing in a god. Most Atheist I know are usually just that untill some theist attacks them first but are otherwise non caring of what you believe as long as you leave them alone.

@osmq4287

3 жыл бұрын

@@grayfox6930 So.. When i think about it, i am an atheist. As soon as i tell you, about it, i become an anti-theist? To me your answer makes as much sense as the believe in gods - Non at all. .. How would you call a theist who actively attacks others for not believing in the same god, he was indoctrinated to believe in?

@grayfox6930

3 жыл бұрын

@@osmq4287 no your not an anti theist for telling someone your atheist, your an anti theist when you actively seek out fights with theist about their beliefs with the goal of harming theism its self. For the second question I don't know if their is an official modern title but I'd refer to those kind of people as Crusaders.

Are there one or more gods? *Theists:* Yes! *Atheists:* No! *Neil:* Who cares? I have _an amazing universe_ to study!

@DissociatedWomenIncorporated

5 жыл бұрын

Psychosis Promo, yes, a religion founded on a love of science and knowledge! But we'd need a catchy name... hmm... how about "Scientology"?

@jeffsmith5787

5 жыл бұрын

Atheists: "Where is your evidence?" not "No!".

@DissociatedWomenIncorporated

5 жыл бұрын

Jeff Smith, if that's the atheist position, then why do so many atheists whine at me for being stubbornly agnostic, and (correctly) noting that the answer to any question with no evidence is "I don't know, maybe"? Also, I don't care if a century ago you could technically call an agnostic an "agnostic atheist", the words are mutually exclusive in modern colloquial usage, and more importantly, in attitude.

@jeffsmith5787

5 жыл бұрын

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated I don't know what atheists you're speaking to. Our position is that we reject the idea of Supernatural god unless he can be shown, unequivocally that such a God exists. What if I told you I had a cat named Smokey? Do you believe that I do?

@DissociatedWomenIncorporated

5 жыл бұрын

Jeff Smith, from a purely scientific perspective I have no reason to believe or disbelieve that you have a cat named Smokey. I have no real data about whether you live with cats and what their names may be, and it's also not something that in any way affects my life. Similarly, I don't reject or accept what'd commonly be called "the supernatural" (a term I find silly, because if something is real and exists then it's part of nature), I have no data either way. My philosophy rests upon knowing that we are dumb, hairless, barely glorified monkeys. We're comparatively ignorant and stupid in understanding the infinite glory of reality.

I'm an Agnostic Atheist. I don't actively believe in a God and I don't see any evidence to believe in one. But I acknowledge that I do not know everything and I could be wrong.

@jayocaine2946

8 жыл бұрын

JustAnotherSunny Any other form of thinking is cancerous.

@cfhfhbg

8 жыл бұрын

+Jayo Caine Lol true that

@Svilly12

8 жыл бұрын

+Jayo Caine My problem with agnostics is that their mentality is completely retarded, because it can be put to anything. "Are unicorns real, but just really, really good at hiding?" No, of course not. That's ludicrous. But I can't 100% prove it, so therefor I won't say that it's not true. It's fucking stupid. If everyone had that mentality, we'd never grow as a race. I mean... leprechauns could be real, hell, sjulkdsfsiss could be real - they are a creature I just made up then, that are invisible gremlins that live in hair and are made from a substance that humans don't have the technology to detect. I mean, you can't prove 100% that sjulkdsfsiss aren't real, can you? Therefor, you won't say, "They are not real." Even though I clearly just made them up. It's so silly. There is no God. I know there is no God. Could I be wrong? Of course. But labeling myself something that gives myself an out to something that makes literally zero sense is, in my opinion, stupid. As stupid, if not more so, than religious people. At least they have the balls to stand by their beliefs.

@Svilly12

8 жыл бұрын

Curtis Kings Heh, it's pretty funny how you completely miss the point of my post, yet are arrogant enough to call me an imbecile. I said very clearly, I could be wrong. But I still know there is no God. I mean, I know that I am writing on a computer right now, just as you know you are reading what I wrote. I could be wrong, though. I could be in a mental institute pushing my fingers on a padded wall and your vitriolic response could merely be me making up an asshole out of some insecurities I have. I could be in a jar somewhere living in virtual reality. I could be dying, and all this is simply the memories of my life 'flashing before my eyes', yet as it's a memory I perceive it as reality. I don't know anything I just said isn't true, fuck, it could all be true - my brain could be dying, flashing its life before its eyes of me in a mental institute imagining this ridiculous conversation... ...but I know none of that is true. I could be wrong! But I still know that none of that is true... get that? Understand that point? Understand how anything we 'know' is really just our perception of reality which we accept, and we know it's true, even if there's a tiny, minuscule chance it's not true? Well, asshole, that's atheism. I know there's no God, because the concept of a God is fucking ridiculous. Any conscious deity which has control over the universe is a joke. I know it's a joke. Anyone who is intelligent knows its a joke. It's simply not true. But it could be true! It very well may be. But it's so fucking unlikely, so completely crazy and delusional, that we know it's not true, we live our lives as it's not true, and the chance is so strong we are correct, that our knowledge is a truth, as anything is a truth judged by conscious perception. That was clearly my point, which you skewed in an attempt to attack me - ironic, or perhaps fitting, considering you're trying to prove the existence of a God. lol. But yes, I hope you understand my very clear point now I made it even clearer for you. (Note: I am no way inferring that there's not powerful beings in the universe, or perhaps beings that exist of pure conscious or of another dimension. Perhaps to us they'd even be Gods. I am saying there's no all powerful God who gives a flying fuck about humans and what we do. There simply isn't. I could be wrong! But that doesn't make me agnostic. Because I know it's not wrong.)

@cfhfhbg

8 жыл бұрын

Hot Dogs where you throw me off mi amigo is your repeated use of "I know"... Sounds ludicrous and foolish. You can't say you know for a fact that pencil x is black yet go ahead and say BUT I may be wrong. You can't "know" about the existence of a being or beings that possibly exists outside the objective flow of time and matter. You said it best, what we know as reality is that we percieve, the incoming and surrounding stimuli in our environment. So don't go ahead and say you "know" jackshit about anything otherwise. "I know there's no god because the concept of a god is ridiculous" see how preposterous that sounds? You know there isn't not because you died and returned but because the idea is ridiculous... Seems legit. What POSSIBLY exists outside of time and matter is certainly ridiculous to process with a brain that IS subjected to time.I wasn't attacking you, if you had a brain you would realize how you started off by insulting agnostics which is a position of knowledge and the best position thereof if you ask me.

Tyson never really fails to amuse me by his authenticity as well as his articulation. I love how precise and articulate his message is. As for this matter, as a then "Christian" I can now say that I am an AGNOSTIC.

"I don't associate with movements... I think for myself." This should be a movement, so inspiring.

@coredeadman5980

11 ай бұрын

Pretty much atheism. I think the term atheism has just gotten such a bad reputation. It just means that one doesn't belief in god.

"Only "ist" i am is scientist" best answer ever

@__elise333

3 жыл бұрын

aaaaa I love it so much!

@yellowlightingbolt

3 жыл бұрын

The best answer is when he said ''I think for myself''

@oneshotmil2042

3 жыл бұрын

@@yellowlightingbolt bruh I loved that too!

@hubertkorzeniak5549

3 жыл бұрын

Not only because of his agnosticism - ism

@PhilipVels

3 жыл бұрын

It's an answer but doesn't answer the question, fortunately he does answer it shortly after.

He literally just described how I feel.

@7HatimF16

4 жыл бұрын

اذكر الله

@jvg6877

4 жыл бұрын

نعم ، كانت لدي شكوك أيضًا ، لكن بمجرد أن تدرك مدى تعقيد العالم الذي نعيش فيه بالفعل ، أشعر أن الله يجب أن يوجد. هذا هو رأيي من فضلك لا تضايقني.

@bellasignora3122

4 жыл бұрын

Me to

@j0hncon5tantine

4 жыл бұрын

@Known4475543 Are you part of this religion? How do you personally define good and evil philosophically?

@j0hncon5tantine

4 жыл бұрын

@Known4475543 I agree with you as far as "younger people" growing up and how their situation and environment can effect them, but this is relative up to the point that most people become mature enough to see past this and can use their freewill to choose to be good or evil. I think similar to your statement good and evil is synonymous to intelligence and non-intelligence. Are you yourself religious at all? I myself am a young Earth creation Christian Bible literalist.

beautifully said. Agnostic = "I don't know" could not be more perfect.

If people stopped inventing Gods I wouldn’t have to deny them. -Ricky Gervais

@Blaubeerschorle

Жыл бұрын

Love this

@14__16

9 ай бұрын

God is real

@fabianlindberg7051

3 ай бұрын

@@14__16 Which god?

@14__16

3 ай бұрын

@@fabianlindberg7051 The God and creator of everything, Allah Almighty, if you really search through the religions, you’ll find that most of the nations believed in the same God ( regardless of the name ), but some religions claim that God has a son ( like Christianity ), and some other claim that there are more gods with that God, even you’ll find the concept of hell,Adam, adultery punishments, demons.. etc before Judaism, so it is clear that the religion is the same one but people add their additions to it.. Today the only one religion that is still pure monotheistic, is Islam, I hope you got it.. May Allah guide your heart

@fabianlindberg7051

3 ай бұрын

@@14__16 I don’t believe that people from other religions would agree with you, that Allah is not god. Doesn’t really matter though since there is no god!

"I don't associate with movements... I think for myself." Beautiful... just beautifully spoken!

@NN-sp9tu

3 жыл бұрын

You can still support a movement based on your own conclusions. He’s so pretentious

@nikk5002

3 жыл бұрын

@@NN-sp9tu aw, you must be that staunch atheist or theist he’s talking about. Not giving a shit doesn’t make one pretentious.

@NN-sp9tu

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikk5002 Nope, neither. But I also acknowledge that people can come to the same conclusions without being sheep

@FelipeCardoso_plus

3 жыл бұрын

@@NN-sp9tu Why should I, forcefully, associate myself with a movement? Can I be free of labels or not? It is not being pretentious, it is just thinking by ourselves. Period.

@NN-sp9tu

3 жыл бұрын

@@FelipeCardoso_plus I don’t recall saying anyone is pretentious for not being part of a movement

“I don’t play golf, is there a word for non golf players” 😂 best line I’ve heard all year no cap

@rudyardwalker9113

3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@ruminatingenigma4649

3 жыл бұрын

Agolfer

@bhaveshdhirwani3140

3 жыл бұрын

I find this analogy flawed. Imagine a world where almost everyone played golf.. Some played golf on a sunday, some played golf 5 times every day. Since you were born, your parents kept insisting that you play golf. If you don't, you are going to hell. You don't like playing golf. You don't even know if playing golf is going to positively impact you.. There is no evidence that playing golf helps you yet everyone around you wants you to play it. Why? Because when they were young, everyone around them insisted them to play it and so on. This is when you'll start finding groups talking about why they don't want to play golf and create anti-golf associations

@metalrules6193

3 жыл бұрын

@@bhaveshdhirwani3140 Yeah you are right

@zupalan2265

3 жыл бұрын

@@bhaveshdhirwani3140 i was about to type this, but you beat me and worded it perfectly.

I highly admire NDT. I just wanted to point out that when non-religious groups gather to discuss policy(political, legislative), it is very important because if laws are written by religious folks, it can sometimes go against everything that free humans deserve and have rights to. Combining religious dogma with secular human rights isn't always a great thing and needs oversight.

Agnosticism, from the Greek root agnōstos (not knowing). Keep in mind there were the Gnostics back in the day that proclaimed they had knowledge that was incontrovertible. Agnosticism is the art of not knowing. To throw your ego to the side and admit maybe theres more to learn. "Those that say they know the nature of the universe, know not. Those that say they know not, know it, and are ready for further instruction." Some people define their entire personality on the basis that they have sacred knowledge, ineffable or infallible. Those same people fail to understand their own personal bias.

I'm notgiveashitist

@AStoicMaster

8 жыл бұрын

Nice ! I'm pro notgiveashitistanityism

@AntonST100

7 жыл бұрын

It's called apatheism.

@spinnetti

7 жыл бұрын

That's an "apathetic"... To me Agnostic simply means not committing to anything lol.

@mckenna8663

7 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha... you are being the sterotyping person that he spoke AGAINST. You put tubestick into a box so that you could look down on him. Pfft

@leonidus66

7 жыл бұрын

lmao....me too

What am I if i just don't give a shit?

@Tzadeck

8 жыл бұрын

+SparklyFeces Apathetic!

@benthrasher9739

8 жыл бұрын

+Johann Sebastian Bach Not "just like Dr. Tyson." That would imply that Dr. Tyson hasn't bothered to think about it. He is really atheist, but not the kind of atheist that people associate with the term. He isn't some fucker who goes out, as a comment on this video said, "Circle Jerking," because that completely ruins the point. Tyson will speak if someone asks his opinion, but he won't go out actively finding atheists to agree with him. He knows he's right. He doesn't need other people to tell him so.

@SparklyFeces

8 жыл бұрын

+Tzadeck Nice! That's what I was looking for.

@benthrasher9739

8 жыл бұрын

Tiffany Weaver No, it's not harder to argue with them. That type of bullshit means that you haven't thought about it enough. Most atheists who come from religion go through a phase of agnosticism and/or deism. If you really believe that there *could* be a god, you must not understand the world around you very well. We have great explanations for all but the most complicated and far away things, so no god is needed. Yes, an athiest could always be wrong, and any smart atheist should admit that, but it's like saying: "There could be a teapot orbiting Jupiter. I cannot disprove this. Yet, I can say with a fair degree of certainty that there isn't one. It's so unlikely that we may as well not even consider the possibility." This is one reason that atheism is a more intelligent way of looking at it than agnosticism.

@RustyTube

8 жыл бұрын

+SparklyFeces Irrelevantist.

The energy to push back against religions that aim to control others should always be found.

@prime_time_youtube

Жыл бұрын

Anything can be used to control people: Politics, tv shows, sports, media, newspapers, economical theories, philosophical views (Marxism), universities, schools and so on. Many scientists are religious, it is insane to put effort to talk about something you don't believe. Non-golfer reunions are nonsense.

@Ausar0

11 ай бұрын

laws also seek to control others. controlling other is not inherently evil.

@Alireza_Farhoudi

6 ай бұрын

​@@Ausar0not true.

@Ausar0

6 ай бұрын

@@Alireza_Farhoudi yes it is lmao. The whole point of laws is to try to prevent people from doing certain things. Those things may be harmful to themselves or others, so it's not bad to forbid it, but it's still a form of control

@marklala1405

2 ай бұрын

Laws are messy religion is fiction

he has grace, charm, humor, and intelligence. One of the few people that never disappoints.

@prince-solomon

10 ай бұрын

He, as most people, adheres to dogmas and paradigms, whether he admits it or not. He has a very materialistic & reductionist world view. There are two -isms already. How can you even begin to understand the universe, if you close your eyes from all the possibilities that are out there... what if you can't measure them all, don't they exist then?

@Pain53924

8 ай бұрын

@@prince-solomon The only reliable way to test our hypothesis is science. We only talk about things that can be independently verified because if they're not, then there exists no difference between an experience a single person had and a delusion.

I was first an Athiest, but then I became Agnostic, because I feel like I am not smart enough to understand anything really. I don't believe in God, but neither do I say "he doesn't exist" I am not hiding. I am not afraid to be an athiest. I just don't see myself as one. All you athiests in the comment section... I thought athiests was objective. Reasonable. Now, you're annoyed because someone is "wrong" in your opinion. I always thought: Christians: "If you do not agree, I will dislike you" Athiests: "I am fine with whatever you believe, but if you want, I would like to discuss it" That seems to be a lie. For both parts.

@theguitarist1290

9 жыл бұрын

Judging an entire group of people from what you see on a KZread comment section is a bit short sighted. In my experience the people you've described are typical of the KZread community so it's natural that a lot of atheists in this comment section would also fit the bill. As with being an atheist or not, (note: I'm not trying to force any labels or anything, just trying to be informative as you seem to be a bit confused as what an atheist actually is) atheism is a belief claim and agnosticism is a knowledge claim. They are not mutually exclusive. In fact, most people who claim to be atheist or agnostic actually fall under the same category: "soft" atheism, or agnostic atheism (agnostic because they do not *know* if a god exists, and atheism because they *lack* a *belief* that a god exists). Note I said lack of a belief, not a belief that a god does not exist. This is a key distinction that a lot of people do not make. A person who does not believe a god exists and / or who makes the claim to know that a god does not exist is a "hard" atheist, or gnostic atheist (gnostic because they claim to know a god does not exist).

@HumdrumReact

9 жыл бұрын

Dan C I am sorry if my comment sounded judgemental to all atheists; that was not my intention. My point is, that I used to think that atheists were generally smart, but as society evolves, more people start to associate themself as atheists and as the "group" grows, so does the possibility of more "bad apples" I feel like I am well aware of the terms, but a good point with the "agnostic atheist" hope I didn't/don't sound like I wanted to offend people directly.

@onlytag1way

9 жыл бұрын

do you believe in god? no? you are an atheist. atheists do not say "there is for certain no god" that is a ridiculous claim. atheists claim "until you provide evidence i do not believe in your god theory", if you ever find a theory of god you do think is plausible.....you are no longer an atheist

@ITCrowdRS

9 жыл бұрын

If you don't believe in God, you are an atheist. Agnostic is not halfway between theist and atheist, because theist and atheist are statements of belief, whereas agnostic is on the scale of existence.

@HumdrumReact

9 жыл бұрын

shit content enjoy I can understand that, but then I rather refer myself as an agnostic-atheist. From what I have gathered; atheists basically deny the existence of God (until proven otherwise). If you ask them, whether there is a God or not, they will say "No" where I would say "I don't know" Honestly, I don't really care what I am associated at. All I'm saying is that I do not know if there is a God or not and therefore I will choose to not believe in God nor deny his existence.

Interview: Are you atheist or theist Neil: why do you care?

@kentonian

4 жыл бұрын

Because theism is nonsensical and he should be standing up to rational thought?

@ember-brandt

4 жыл бұрын

@@kentonian Religion has literally nothing to do with his career as an astrophysicist, let alone the fact that religious views one way or the other are highly personal and subjective. I'm an atheist myself, but honestly, I wish every fucking person on earth just kept their religious views _to themselves._ It shouldn't ever BE anyone else's business.

@kentonian

4 жыл бұрын

@@ember-brandt I'm afraid it's not religious views. Its facts, there is no scientific evidence for any of the claims of religion. Allow this brainwashing to propagate and it causes wars, segregation and an inability to use critical thinking. No human should be abused with that nonsense.

@justadude777

3 жыл бұрын

@@kentonian I'm not relgious but the problem is not relgious people nor Athiest it's just the people. Yes there are wars and riots cause by relgious traditions but there are also wars and riots that were Led by atheist to. Their are relgious people who actually take care of the World and animals and feed the poor and there are Athiest who loves life and the Earth and help people know their value. So you see the problem is not unbelievers or relgious people it's the condition of are heart

@mjolninja9358

3 жыл бұрын

Jevon Frost you might be pointing out those whom use beliefs for their own gain like the prosperity Gospel televangelist, and other extreme religious groups.

I love how subtly and meaningfully he mentioned how people should communicate.

My thoughts on homework: 2:36 - 2:42

@cerulean22b69

3 жыл бұрын

Lol mood

@Swapnil5

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

I'm an insomniac, dyslexic agnostic. I constantly find myself awake at night wondering if there is a dog.

@henriktheonly3874

6 жыл бұрын

Conleibs I have one.... now go get some sleep

@WorldOfLulz

6 жыл бұрын

This is an underrated comment.

@volha2957

6 жыл бұрын

Underrated because not everyone gets it. I didn't at first. It was like what? ..... hahaha

@thatclassydemon9311

6 жыл бұрын

I've never had a yt comment make me laugh, nice

@JRHockney

6 жыл бұрын

Conleibs Now that's funny xD

It's hilarious to me, the comments on this video and the article I found it in. The man flat out SAYS, "I am not an atheist" and people are still trying to claim he is! He changed his own Wiki page (a page NOT created by him) to reflect that he is not an atheist and every time he did, someone changed it back. Unbelievable. The man is intelligent, educated, well-spoken and well-versed in the subject. If he says he's not an atheist, HE'S NOT. Give it up, wtf?

@SinDelleMorte

10 жыл бұрын

***** PS: I find that comment hilarious because I SERIOUSLY doubt most atheists would rather wear the label "philosopher" than "scientist." LOL

@jpf338

10 жыл бұрын

He can say that he es nos black, never the less he is...

@rougerum

10 жыл бұрын

I disagree here. I'm an agnostic myself, and the point is that we believe that there isn't enough proof one way or another as to whether or not God exists. That doesn't flat out mean that we don't believe he doesn't exist period. We're still waiting on the proof you see.

@j530

10 жыл бұрын

rougerum Are you agnostic about Jehovah, Allah or Zeus? I think NDT is agnostic about a sort of "Higher Power", an "Absolute" or a Deist God. IMHO.

@SinDelleMorte

10 жыл бұрын

I love when people do that. "WHICH GOD DO YOU CLAIM???" It is a weapon they try to use against the religious. If someone is agnostic or otherwise not religious, that won't work. :)

Neil is why I became an agnostic instead of an atheist. Thanks Neil.

@vrz2000

2 жыл бұрын

you can be agnostic atheist, that’s the majority of atheists, lacking a belief in god but can easily change your position with proof

@isaiahheyward1488

Жыл бұрын

They are not mutually exclusive fyi but who cares. Stay curious

@Mark-Wilson

Жыл бұрын

You can be both. They ask different questions.

@Xavi_oh

Жыл бұрын

@@Mark-Wilson depends how you define the word huxley the one who created the term did not split belief and knowledge. he literaly says in matters of intellect one shouldnt make claims or hold beliefs they have no evidence for. it was george smith who later on split the two into knowledge and belief. personally i myself i take huxlyes definition so to me saying agnostic atheist is cognitively dissonant as one shouldnt hold any beleif or claim without evidence.

I'm right there with Neil I'm agnostic too. People confuse atheism and agnosticism.

"Real knowledge is knowing the extent of one's ignorance"- Confucius

@Empty-ov3on

4 жыл бұрын

Explains the Dunning Kruger Effect...

@j0hncon5tantine

4 жыл бұрын

@Mimi is back I really loved what you had to say and I feel that I have a very similar train of thought to you. So you are a believer but you think there is no logical or scientific way to prove God? Did I get that right?

@mattw6399

4 жыл бұрын

Or as Socrates said "I know that I know nothing"

@j0hncon5tantine

4 жыл бұрын

@@dan78789 Would you like to know if there is one for sure? Do you label yourself an atheist?

@j0hncon5tantine

4 жыл бұрын

@@dan78789 Would you like to know if there is one for sure? Do you label yourself an atheist?

Neil Degrasse Tyson is a perfect example of figuring out things as they go with life, your beliefs should change as you learn

@adolphsanchez1429

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but he's not being 100% truthful or accurate here. First if all, I am an atheist, but I do not believe in shoving that down other people's throats UNLESS they are pushing destructive policy or pushing their own rigid set of "values" or extremist beliefs on others including hatred of certain sections of the population. Second, Tyson, when he gets very upset in interviews or debates with fundamentalists, becomes a very vocal atheist, so I can see why there are those who view him as such as he is highly critical of evangelicalism. An agnostic is someone who does not believe in a god but also does not deny the existence of a "God" should evidence ever present itself that a god exists (which has never occurred). Good scientists value facts, and facts are the foundations of theories. Theories might change over time when new facts are discovered, but the old facts do not change (the theories simply shift with the new facts). A scientist must be open to new facts, but never willing to ignore them as a fact remains a fact -- always.

@imayormaynotbewatchingvinc1465

11 ай бұрын

​@@adolphsanchez1429I understand what you're saying, and as someone who goes to a maths and science specialty school. Though, I think what Neil is saying is that human knowledge is so limited and we don't know what there is in store for this universe. Confining in something as close to facts in my opinion is still very close minded, you may not open yourself to the doors of possibility. I think he's saying that labels are useless to something you don't know about

@cynthiaestrada8318

9 ай бұрын

I joined a chat group :atheism . I joined because I thought Neil was moderating it. He is not. Tough group to join. I had to back out. I'm looking for help. I'm from the Philippines and we have a religious war in the south. We now also have another war with China. Difficult time for us. Indeed you to know this war is not just about Philippines vs China. The Americans are bringing in the big guns as they watch the Bashi Channel. The European Envoy was here. There will be a war. Bigger than the Ukrainian war. I think we Philippines little small nation has a role to play. I guess I'm just telling you to be ready.

My military instructor in basic understood that, which I appreciated. His thing was, no matter what I was before, I'm a soldier now. And, that's the way I like it. Though we both went to church occaisionally, due of the sharing if peaceful or wanting of peace for our future.

I personally am equally agnostic and atheist I am agnostic in the empirical sense by which I have not received a direct sign that, as proof, allows me to know the existence or nonexistence of God. I am an atheist in the sense of my lack of faith in a personal god and an organized religion, I abandoned the Catholic Church and its teachings. However, to simplify and avoid misunderstandings I identify myself as an "atheist and secular humanist." And that's it!

This is always how I've explained what agnostic is. I've been agnostic for as long as I can remember. I think I want to believe there's something else after we die only because of losing my mother and sister. I don't like thinking that they're just "nothing" now You know? But there is no proof of a "God" or "Higher Being" or whatever. So maybe there just isn't anything, maybe we just die and that's it. I'm willing to accept both of these possibilities but hell for all we know when we die we turn into insects or aliens. No one really knows until they're gone. But just know that I will respect your beliefs if you respect mine. Just because you believe in something and I may not believe in the same thing doesn't make me a bad person, just like it's doesn't make you a bad person. Be open minded people, be kind and be respectful.

@el34glo59

6 жыл бұрын

Buggie Marie Just remembered that we can't comprehend everything as humans. And that everything is how we perceive it. And that it's possible that we are conscious beings experiencing what it's like to be human. Not humans experiencing a consciousness. I'm not pushing anything on you and I'm not religious. But just think, if there is consciousness and a higher consciousness, you think us as young as humans are would be able to explain it all through science? Not happening. We can only sense with our eyes, nose, etc. You ever realize that we could be missing things in space or maybe directly in front of us because we can't experience it? It's not only possible but likely. We don't even understand why gravity exists. Or how life started. Or how we have a consciousness. There are things that very very Intelligent people have seen and experienced that they can't explain and that have changed their minds about the meaning or start of things. Again no pushing you, as I'm not even sure what I believe, but I know we don't have close to all the answers. Not close.

@susanamiralles2137

6 жыл бұрын

Buggie Marie II

@corvus1253

6 жыл бұрын

Electronic Adventures - That's depressing.

@corvus1253

6 жыл бұрын

Buggie Marie - Agreed. But, a lot of people are just too....

@alanquintero7

6 жыл бұрын

Corvus that's maybe depressing, but thats how it is.

Very respectful answer from him

@ThePharphis

9 жыл бұрын

MikeAvenger08 Very dodgy answer from him. It's not respectful to associate all the baggage of the word atheist (as he mentions himself earlier on) to atheists by suggesting they're all activists.

@user-xk6vo9od1j

8 жыл бұрын

ThePharphis

@ThePharphis

8 жыл бұрын

คำหล้า บุนทองสุก Your reply is blank

@mikeshearman8370

8 жыл бұрын

Of course it was. Both Tyson and Nye are losing popularity for pissing off both religious followers as well as other scientists who believe it's a complete waste of time arguing about someone's religious faith. People want positive science; not perpetual wars over "I'm right - you're wrong" childish antics. I could care less if someone believes in God or not, if they're cool people and my friend, well, that's all that counts.

@ThePharphis

8 жыл бұрын

Mike Shearman Except our beliefs inform our actions and we can see that religious beliefs are used to justify bigotry on a daily basis. Challenging the beliefs directly (or any other woo, such as homeopathy) protects people in the future from such harm. It's not all or nothing. Some people can address religion while some address science and others address both. It's disingenuous for NDT to pretend that religious beliefs have no impact on others, however, and to also claim he doesn't like labels because they have baggage attached while simultaneously attaching baggage to a label (atheist).

I just stopped worrying about things I can’t control. We don’t know what happens after death and I, for one, don’t want to investigate any time soon. I just adore NDT. He is the people’s scientist and I hold him with the same esteem as I hold Dr. Fauci, America’s doctor. Thank you for everything, Doc’s, we owe you both a debt of gratitude.

The way I see it is there are Atheists and Theists, and there are Agnostics and Gnostics. The first is a measure of faith, and the other is a measure of knowledge. I prefer to not make these measures binary, either yes of no. That is a bit too simplistic, (mind the pun). I think it would be better to place one measures on a X axis, and the other on the Y, and plot where one thinks you are. I suspect there are many religious people who are high in the faith category, but since they don't know for sure, would be low in the other. Just my opinion, and hope we try explore something higher than a person either is or isn't.

its simple: religious: god atheist: no god agnostic : i dont know

@robforge7667

6 жыл бұрын

No its not. Religious: Belief that there is a god without any evidence. and not willing to change that perspective by rational arguments or evidence. Atheist: Disbelief in god because there is no evidence to suggest there is one, but if evidence becomes available is willing to change their minds. Agnostic: wimping out not willing to take a proper stand on your position because you don't want to piss the religious people off and have a smaller audience base in the case of Neil. Neil is a scientist and science is based on evidence and not on maybe so for him to apply this to everything in his life except for god is just weak.

@st8vie282

6 жыл бұрын

Roberto Zadra or agnostics don't care because they realise in the fallacy and pointless attitude and conviction people put into their belief theist or atheist

@el34glo59

6 жыл бұрын

hazel eyes No it's as simple as the original poster said. No reason to elaborate.

@el34glo59

6 жыл бұрын

hazel eyes Moron

@robforge7667

6 жыл бұрын

Nope its not.

Am agnostic. Continuously amazed by the Miracle of life and its interconnectedness!

@calvinthestormfreak

5 жыл бұрын

Just don't study the quantum realm.

@j0hncon5tantine

4 жыл бұрын

What kind of agnostic are you? Do you believe it is possible to know for sure if there is a God or not?

@simpleguy38

4 жыл бұрын

Can a person be agnostic and at the same time a pantheist?

@j0hncon5tantine

4 жыл бұрын

@@simpleguy38 I don't think you can be both because "believing" is a sub category below "knowing", you can't believe in something and know it is real at the same time necessarily because they are related and "knowing" is a higher category than "belief". Are you a pantheist or agnostic yourself? I guess you can be agnostic toward a particular God and keep the pantheistic view, but not all Gods because your pantheistic view is a type of God......

@simpleguy38

4 жыл бұрын

@@j0hncon5tantine I am not into any religion and I don't believe in an anthropomorphic God, I think myself as an agnostic, but I keep wondering about the nature and its laws (specially Energy) which has no beginning nor end, here comes my pantheistic (scientific pantheism) view of the universe. I love science because it's the only methodology to know the truth, I found out that even the great Albert Einstein had the same position as me.

"I think for myself" Tyson is pur gold and a true thinker

The facts about sports analogy is that it is chosable and not forced into one another and no one is going to kill you for not loving any particular sport..I love his way of thinking though❤️🔥

"I do not claim to *know*, where many ignorant men are *sure*. That is all that 'agnosticism' means to me." --Clarence Darrow. Neil does a fantastic job of explaining the difference between agnosticism and atheism. As an agnostic often marginalized or erased in such debates by both theists and atheists who believe there is no middle ground between their positions, it heartens me to see such a public figure as Neil explaining this so well.

@Starnerdz

10 жыл бұрын

Agnosticism and Atheism talk about two different things here which makes them not exclusive. Agnostic tells you what you don't know about this subject, atheism tells you what you don't believe about this subject. A person is either a theist or a atheist, you either hold a belief there is a god or you do not hold a belief there is a god, you also either know there is or is no god or you don't know if there is or is no god. Saying i don't believe in a god says nothing about what i might believe to the contrary, the same as saying i don't know says nothing about what i might know to the contrary. There really is no middle, a lot of people don't like to identify themselves as a atheist is all this is.

@adamyounis2983

10 жыл бұрын

Replicators I don't think it's right to assert that belief, as a property rather than a concept, is binary. This is where atheism fails. It implies that you have to either believe or not. What if I don't choose to actively take a stance? Take someone like Neil. You ask him "do you believe in god?" and what is his response? Probably "I don't know, the subject isn't of interest to me". I believe that anybody interested in conducting their lives rationally ceases to hold any active position in the conversation, one way or another. It's sort of absurd to speculate on the existence of something that, by definition, is unknowable. This way, I assert that you can, in fact, be solely agnostic and not additionally "theist or atheist". Both belief and disbelief are essentially worthless, in a rational world, thus the "non-skier" and "non-golfer" example.

@mattbeckman8419

10 жыл бұрын

Adam Younis If you chose to not take a stance you wouldn't be commenting on KZread...

@adamyounis2983

10 жыл бұрын

Matt Beckman Are you suggesting that I must either believe or disbelieve the existence of a god to post a comment on KZread or merely that I wouldn't bother if I didn't?

@nfinn42

10 жыл бұрын

Adam, your guess about Tyson's attitudes was correct. He has stated in interviews that people trying to categorize or label him as an atheist, or scold him for not being a good enough atheist, annoy him. He doesn't want to be labelled period, he doesn't care about whether god exists or not, and he doesn't like to waste time thinking about it when he could be *doing science*. This naturally pisses off some zealous atheists who prefer to insist that there be no middle ground and keep trying to rope all agnostics into their bitter war against religion. They need to learn that some agnostics bear religion no particular ill will and feel we have better things to do with our lives than beat our heads against the brick wall of theism for eternity.

I envy westerners who can publicly talk about their actual believes without getting harassed or even killed. I was born and raised in a conservative Muslim country, and I have to play along to avoid troubles, and sometimes get dragged to prayers that has a huge impact on my IQ, it was obvious for me how Islam is so wrong and violent since I was 8 years old during Islamic classes, tried to seek truth for a while but ended up being physically harmed by teachers just for asking, I wish I can leave this shit hole someday and save what's left of my IQ ... I wish I was born in Europe or US :(

@josiahbrown8976

8 жыл бұрын

+Dandal Ero This is so sad to read, but it's good to remember that there are many people who suffer in this way. Being someone who was raised in a Christian community in the US, I often think how grateful I am not to have been born during the inquisition, for even if the prison of dogma had not effectively restrained me (not a likely scenario without the internet and the ability to express doubts freely), I would have had to hide for fear of pain and death. Your comment is a sobering reminder that many people in the world today must live in a similarly nightmarish scenario. I sincerely hope that you are able to leave soon. At least you're able to think for yourself and don't have to live as a slave to harmful doctrine and a sadistic, imaginary being. Most people born into your situation can't even have that said of them.

@mitsumikyoya8746

8 жыл бұрын

+Dandal Ero i feel you bro, our story are totally the same.. the difference is i was raised as a "Muslim" in so-called Islamic moderate nation ( but it turn out to be bullshit, because the society i was raised in are conservative and our goverment administrated by some extreme religious person.. ).. thinking about getting US visa 5 or 6 years later

@CourtTV.

8 жыл бұрын

Some Christians go through the same thing dude . The Roman Catholic Church created christiniaty or corrupted it and they made Islam so Muslims will fight against each other Christians . ( I know that Christians , Jews and Muslims get along in morroco .And that a mosque is besides a church there in eithopia and they get along find . I am basically saying that even through that there are radical Christians and Muslims . And even thorough their are ppl from all 3 groups that get along the powers of that be fucked up everything . Go Watch the Islamic connection to Rome and whited out 3 on KZread . I will be praying for you .

@SUBIZIEIRIO

8 жыл бұрын

+FatDuckBeak good luck mate. I hope it turns out well for you and that your family can understand

@SUBIZIEIRIO

8 жыл бұрын

+FatDuckBeak good luck mate. I hope it turns out well for you and that your family can understand

The way I see it is to decouple both concepts. Therefore, you can be any combination of each: 1) Atheist Agnostic: don't believe in gods, but understand the lack of evidence; 2) Atheist Gnotisc: don't believe in gods and is sure that gods do not exists; 3) Theist Agnostic: believe in existence of gods, but understand the lack of evidence to support it; 4) Theist Gnostic: believe in god(s) and is sure that god(s) exists (e.g. arguing that some holy book is sufficient evidence to support that opinion) The way I see it is: a) Theist x Atheist: it is an opinion. Whether you belive (by guessing) if god(s) exists or not. If you do, you're a Theist. If not, you're atheist. b) Gnostic or Agnostic: it is a behaviour. How you behave given your beliefs. If you're "sure" about your belief (even with no evidence), you're gnostic, but if you are "I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not, there's no way to know it" you're agnostic.

@LastBastian

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, pretty much. 👍

i'm a free thinker , don't believe in anything others believe , only believes in myself. Self discipline , self love and compassionate

What it comes down to is labels in society cause more problems then they aim to solve whether its sexuality, race, or religion people want to have a single word to describe those people but in reality people associated to those labels do not all have the same pattern of thinking. Everyone has their own opinions, beliefs, and moral values and no group has the authority to accuse any person's way of thinking as being "right" or "wrong".

@izaccy

10 жыл бұрын

this statement is the best description.

I'm agnostic too and I'm really happy to see that this person thinks just like me.😊

@NIA-ql5he

3 жыл бұрын

Me toooo

@promethium-145

3 жыл бұрын

Respect

@davedurosier

3 жыл бұрын

No. You think like him.

@OAmeen

2 жыл бұрын

@@davedurosier it's the same

@OP_-pk9hm

2 жыл бұрын

@@davedurosier Imagine being entitled to another man's words who CLEARLY said that he is an educator and likes getting people to think for themselves. People who like to have evidence before standing firm on a belief is not a rare trait to only one person.

I agree with mr. Tyson. The most logical standpoint is to be agnostic. I don't "believe" anything in the emotional sense regarding divinity, so if I have to identify as anything at all I'll be taking the most logical option. There has never been concrete evidence either for or against the existence of the divine.

This is why defining terms is important. I am in the same position as Neil and have the same feelings but would describe myself as atheist, as in a-theist. More accurately I'd describe myself as an agnostic atheist. Those atheists that engage in polemicals and debates against religion I'd tend to describe as anti-theist, as Christopher Hitchens described himself. But in the end it's all semantics and so long as we understand what we all mean by different labels, we can agree on what positions actually are even if we use different words to define them. I'd also agree with Neil that atheism doesn't really exist; or more truthfully, it can ONLY exist in contrast to theism

@Xavi_oh

Жыл бұрын

keep in mind thought that base on huxleys defintion which is the one neil uses here you cant be an agnostic atheist. huxley didnt separate knowledge and beleif. he said one shouldnt make claims or beleifs they had no evidence for. which is why you have a set of agnostics like say him or i that are strictly agnostic. is also why you see him give the explanation of why he bases what something is base on the actions of its community not just its defnition as people can define it in different ways.

I'm so disappointed. He doesn't play golf.

@billskinner7670

6 жыл бұрын

You have an instrument that is shaped like a club, and called a club, but if you use it like a club, you will be unsuccessful, at best. Why would you expect NdGT to participate in such a "sport"?

@RicardoGarcia-bm7ke

6 жыл бұрын

believe in god, your be more disappointed!

@johannesvanm.3467

6 жыл бұрын

hes a golfeist

@migvelv

6 жыл бұрын

Bill Skinner Nice

@rickeyripley5957

6 жыл бұрын

Richard Minter degreaser head is a paid actor just like bill nye..real science proves there's a God..

"Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god?" -Epicurus

@alphapapa5383

6 жыл бұрын

Lnathang Why does any of that matter? A religion's idea of what God might be has zero influence on whether or not there actually is one (or 2 etc.). Plus, that argument is overused and useless. If there was a God, and also eternal life, who cares if you experience evil for a short period on earth. Heck, even if your whole life was misery, that's a small price to pay for eternal happiness(if that's one's belief). It's not unlike arriving at the conclusion of an afterlife, because one believes in God. The two are mutually exclusive. There could be God, and no afterlife, or afterlife and no God, or both.

@thematrix1101

6 жыл бұрын

If God removed all the evil himself, then what would us humans do? God is the creator and deity, not a baby sitter. He is like a parent, he won't prevent us from doing anything, but if we do something wrong, then there will be consequences. If God stopped all evil and revealed all secrets, then there would be no purpose for humanity. Pure heart and knowledge would be nothing. Truth is, He is both able and willing, but there is a little gap called "time" between the two. He is able now, but willing to judge later.

@thematrix1101

6 жыл бұрын

Alpha Papa a similar argument can be used. If there is no God and afterlife, then why bother maintaining a guideline in this world? We can do whatever the fuck we want, kill people, lie and cheat etc. Escaping from the law is easy, but escaping from conscience isn't. And that conscience is God.

@alphapapa5383

6 жыл бұрын

TheMatrix1101 Are you saying that if tomorrow, you found out there was no afterlife or God, you would disregard all values and morals you currently have? I will ask another point: If killing someone sends them to eternal happiness in heaven, aren't you doing them a favor by saving them from the misery and suffering of human life, to replace it with eternal life in Heaven? I view "Evil" as subjective as well. Is a hunter not evil to the deer? By your choice of words, I'm guessing your idea of evil is derived from a very old book, written by humans with similar ideas. If you can demonstrate that "Evil" is a mutually exclusive property in nature, without appealing to aforementioned human-consrtucted writings, I will listen.

@ShizL

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting thought: When you code a game, you don't want it to be all positive and good. You add bad guys, some of them even kill the good ones, to show people how they ultimately fail.

As a Christian, I’ve learned more from this guy about science then I have the ones that love forcing their beliefs down people’s throats. He’s known for having an ego but at least he’s insightful and he’s extremely gifted at explaining things in a way where anyone can understand. I respect this man.

" the only ist I am is a scientist." That is great.

@ 00.17 "I think for myself." End of story.

He has intellectual integrity. He admits that he doesn't know. That is humility. I admire him for his consistency. Even though I like the God hypothesis.

@joesmoke9624

4 жыл бұрын

Doc Holiday Say when 😎

@docholiday8029

4 жыл бұрын

@@joesmoke9624 When

@joesmoke9624

4 жыл бұрын

Doc Holiday Ya got me

@docholiday8029

4 жыл бұрын

@@joesmoke9624 🤠👍

@joesmoke9624

4 жыл бұрын

Doc Holiday 😁

I do find it funny that he says he doesn't like when people prescribe things about a person when a word is applied to them, and proceeds to do so with atheists. Most atheists don't run around yelling at people, though I'd love to see what studies he used for that. As country that very much still a Christian country, most atheists and agnostics just don't talk about it. Versus Christians who literally invoke religion to affect public policy.

Witty - but I guess the difference would be that neither the golfing community nor the skiing community has a major impact on public policy, debate and norms in the US. Whereas religious institutions do, to the detriment of scientific, political and ethical progress.

Everyone, by definition, is an agnostic, meaning no one can know whether a god or gods exist. Atheism, on the other hand, is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods. Then there are those who claim to know for certain that their god exists, or those that claim to know that gods do not exist. These are the true fools. Bertrand Russell had it right when he said: "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."

@marcuscross8051

4 жыл бұрын

I recently watched a great video that explained that Atheism and Agnostic are not different points on the same spectrum, but they are actually different dimensions/spectrums. Agnosticism is about knowledge, whereas atheism is about belief. So technically we are all agnostics because none of us can know for sure. But if you don't actively believe in a God, you are an atheist. But it's like we shouldn't even need a word for that anymore than we need a word for someone who doesn't believe in fairies or ghosts. A disbelief in a God is not a religion or a belief system, it's merely an absence of a belief. Sure, there are certain aggressive atheists who take their disbelief in God to more aggressive levels, but one can have no belief in God without needing to be part of that aggressive atheism movement. But even Richard Dawkins, as outspoken as he is against God and religion, admits that he is an agnostic atheist because it's impossible to know for sure.

@truthtrekker

4 жыл бұрын

Terry Peterson *Some people like to say any old stupid shit just so they can draw attention to themselves. You are drawing attention to yourself, but it is the wrong kind of attention. God is the devil who resides inside of the Sun with all the rest of those who have died. This Creation is Nature's Garden. A partial list of what Nature contains has been listed on the Periodic Table of Elements which has been around for about 250 years. Your dead hero Lord Russell could not make out his ass from his elbow in this life either, which is he did not make it long term in this life and is frying inside of the Sun for all times. Happy Maturity TP!!!*

@wiseman3107

4 жыл бұрын

Which of thousands of gods you're talking about and are you saying the ones that became mythologies we aren't certain of their existent

@wiseman3107

4 жыл бұрын

Why it's hard for humans to overcome the idea of the god yes it's only exist as idea not a real thing .fuck the evolution played with human minds like this

@truthtrekker

4 жыл бұрын

Libya's philosopher *Not sure what you're askin'. The world worships the hermaphrodite A'bel as god. A'bel was the first person to make slaves and claim to be the creator of all things and also the first person to die. The gods you are referring to are merely surrogates of The Lord god A'bel, who you now know is the devil.*

"At the end of the day, I'd rather there not be any category at all." Many people complain that categories enable division and tribalism, and this is a valid complaint. But let's not overlook the fact that categories and generalizations are perhaps the most useful tool in the cognition toolbox. For example, your beliefs about God can easily and accurately be summed up by the phrase "skeptical agnostic atheist," and then we wouldn't need a 4-minute video about it. Some generalizations can gloss over nuance, but that can easily be remedied by saying "but" and explaining the nuance. If you tell someone that you fall into a certain category, and they then presume to know everything about you, then that's their fault, not the category's. Even if you refrain from mentioning a category by name, the other person will just pigeonhole you into a category of their choice as soon as your explanation starts to resemble it. Categories aren't the problem. People are. Tribalists gonna tribe.

@leekuanjiet8435

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. So, in ways, he isn't so much voicing against the idea of labels as the of problem of how people misunderstand labels.

You have my complete admiration…I am not a learned person but your sentiments echo my own

Sums up my entire ideology on these matters. I love the way you think, well said.

A true wise man. He only gives a shit about something important, immediate and beneficial for the society. Just like Elon Musk as inventor helping scientist also, and other great inventors and scientists. Think like inventors and scientists, not like great debaters.

@calvinthestormfreak

5 жыл бұрын

Thinking about important things can get you killed.

@vaishalidd

5 жыл бұрын

@@calvinthestormfreak wat u even Saying.?

@TonyMacaroni69_

5 жыл бұрын

Your name tho😂😂😂

@mikevic9366

5 жыл бұрын

This is not the real Peterson. What do you think professors that talk about shit all day do..

@TonyMacaroni69_

5 жыл бұрын

@@mikevic9366 of course it's not jordan peterson. Read his channel name again, but this time sloooooowly... Noticed anything?

Finally a video that explains what an agnostic really is. I love this.

@Murchad99

7 жыл бұрын

Finally? Other than the several dozens of other videos discussing Agnosticism? Other than the numerous articles and (*gasp*) source material on the subject?

@Ryan88881

7 жыл бұрын

Sort of.... What Neil clearly doesn't understand however is that the question of agnosticism is an entirely different question, it's a belief about knowledge at that's it. There are both agnostic theists and agnostics atheists so saying you're "just agnostic" doesn't cut it and doesn't answer the question. You either believe or don't believe. Most people regardless of what they believe are agnostic.

@damillionmalania

7 жыл бұрын

To be honest I think he got it slightly wrong. It's hard to think of a word that is more misused in the english language today than the word "agnostic". Huxley, who coined the term, described the agnostic position as not only not knowing if there is a God or not, but denying that knowledge of God and his existence is even possible. In other words, everyone who claims to know that there is a God or that there isn't a God is claiming to know more than they can know, from the agnostic viewpoint. Since we can't know anything about God, all we have is speculation that can't lead anywhere. So for the agnostic the question if there is a God or not is irrelevant.The agnostic is not open to new evidence, but holds as a principle that knowledge of God is IMPOSSIBLE. The agnostic doesn't believe in God and is in that sense passively an atheist, but doesn't actively deny the existence of God either. I hope this helped you a bit if you felt confused about agnosticism. Don't worry, you're not the first.

@TheHuxleyAgnostic

7 жыл бұрын

Don't listen to Ryan and dam... Huxley was a scientist, above all else. He saw the scientific method in picking apples at the market. The agnosticism he defined was a belief in that scientific method, and it amounted to a form of demarcation. No objective testable evidence = a subjective unfalsifiable claim. Results: unscientific and inconclusive. No belief as to the truth, or falsehood, of the claim. It is not compatible with athe-ism, the belief gods do not exist, or the-ism, the belief gods do exist. “I say, strive earnestly to learn something, not only of the results, but of the methods of science, and then apply those methods to all statements which offer themselves for your belief. If they will not stand that test, they are nought, let them come with what authority they may.” "Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe." He outright considered it "immoral" to form beliefs about objective truth claims without any objective evidence. So, no, not compatible with believing gods exist, or don't exist. "That which Agnostics deny and repudiate, as immoral, is the contrary doctrine, that there are propositions which men ought to believe, without logically satisfactory evidence; and that reprobation ought to attach to the profession of disbelief in such inadequately supported propositions." And, no, he didn't define it as some oxymoronic gnostic agnosticism that claims to know something is eternally unknowable or claims to know that nobody else knows either. "The extent of the region of the uncertain, the number of the problems the investigation of which ends in a verdict of not proven, will vary according to the knowledge and the intellectual habits of the individual Agnostic. I do not very much care to speak of anything as “unknowable.” What I am sure about is that there are many topics about which I know nothing; and which, so far as I can see, are out of reach of my faculties. But whether these things are knowable by any one else is exactly one of those matters which is beyond my knowledge, though I may have a tolerably strong opinion as to the probabilities of the case. Relatively to myself, I am quite sure that the region of uncertainty-the nebulous country in which words play the part of realities -is far more extensive than I could wish."

@Murchad99

7 жыл бұрын

The Huxley Agnostic Your definition of Agnosticism is correct, and correctly sourced. Your definition of atheism (or athe-ism, to highlight your subjective choice of where to place the prefix and suffix) is presuppositional. The definition involving "doctrine" or "denial" has no clear objective origin; the term is historically and etymologically ambiguous, it was not notably coined (unlike Agnosticism), and seems to have begun as little more than an insult towards theists who rejected the "correct" god. We could argue as to which way the word "should" be defined, but that argument would be as pointless as the argument over "does god exist". The two more relevant points are: 1) Unlike the staunch materialists in the X Club and Royal Society that Huxley sought to differentiate from, the majority of atheists in the modern free world define their atheism in terms of disbelief and not denial. And there's evidence this isn't a "recent" phenomenon. Though in terms of history, it's only been relatively recently that it was at least somewhat socially acceptable to identify as an atheist... prior to that point the only people who use such a term publicly were the sort willing to attract controversy and argument given the irrational hatred and ignorance and cultural oppression that came standard with the majority worldview. 2) "The doctrine that knowledge of god is impossible" and "belief that we can't know anything beyond the material" are both considered alternate definitions of agnosticism. Often quoted as well, and not just by the ignorant. Can you acknowledge the apparent hypocrisy in your dismissing an alternate definition of agnosticism while simultaneously insisting (by implication of argument) that atheists conform to the one definition of atheism you feel most useful in demonstrating your distinction from it?

He just described exactly how I feel about it. I love him.

I just saw this video in 2020. Not realising that this video was posted 8 years ago, I rushed to Dr. Tyson wiki page to change his religious views from atheist to agnostic. I was surprised to see that his exact words in this video was updated there. It was cool in 2 ways: 1.people love Dr. Tyson and 2.people care to update Wikipedia often.

the sad thing is some people are not able to form their own views and opinions therefore they allign themselves with ideology/movement labels. Because of this they transform into "sheeps", accepting any ideas from an ideology/movement without much thought in it.

@nunodfes2

7 жыл бұрын

That ^

@santiagocardona1736

7 жыл бұрын

like christianity

@AGNOSTIC_incomprehensibleXIV

7 жыл бұрын

Sadly/surprisingly, more and more subgroups of atheists are falling into this as well.

@xenon_eleven

7 жыл бұрын

"sheeps"😂😂😂 It's sheep

@minotaur818

7 жыл бұрын

Thomas Ellis thanks lol

I don't think it matters what group you fit in spiritually, religiously, scientifically or whatever. What matter is that you continue to think and you're open to the possibilities to the universe.

A simple, yet brilliant, summation on the A vs. A discussion.

The dislike ratio is a mystery now 🥲

I am agnostic about the Easter bunny. I really can't prove or know whether he's there or not. But I am prepared to believe if proof is provided.

@jannetteberends8730

3 жыл бұрын

😁😁😁

@codeoptimizationware2803

3 жыл бұрын

@Tor: Gimmie some of those Easter Eggs hehehehehehe

@Jeff-tj4tx

3 жыл бұрын

what degree of probability do you belief in the easter bunny? coin toss? 1/100? 1/1,000,000?

@tor9273

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jeff-tj4tx 1/(10^12) (read as 1/(10 to the 12th))

@Jeff-tj4tx

3 жыл бұрын

@@tor9273 wow you're more credulous than I am. My belief in the Easter Bunny is around 1 / 10 to the 18th

Im a agnostic atheist i don't believe a god exists but im not saying its not possible

@evanmann7036

7 жыл бұрын

Thats not a thing. Thats called being a soft agnostic.

@yoyogorilla1

7 жыл бұрын

+evan mann No it's called being smart

@evanmann7036

7 жыл бұрын

you dont get to redefine words and ideals that outdate you many times over.

@TheHuxleyAgnostic

7 жыл бұрын

Sooo ... the "atheist" part is redundant. "Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe." ~ Thomas Huxley

@GustAdlph

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Chefi, you deserve credit for saying you don't believe a god exists but it could be possible.

I absolutely adore this man. "Do none gold players gather..."

I don't really know many atheists but I do understand his differentiation and I now relate even more to atheism than to agnostic after watching this video. I have been taught a lot of delusional "truths" by many religions I tried and it was so painful to me to get out of those believes that I am against the preaching of religion as truth to children and I guess that's what it makes me an atheist. Even though I would love to have the open mind to say "if someone proves me there's a god, I'm happy to believe it", to me, religion as a system to control people, especially on evangelical communities where the pastor literally "lives off of his sheep" with lies and coercion is something to be opposed to instead of refrain to be commented on. On the other hand, I understand that creates a barrier that "agnostic" people can cross and interact.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

7 ай бұрын

The issue at hand is sin and God’s nature of being just. Sin brings suffering (the pleasure is short term, and the suffering is long term-on earth and in hell forever). God brings Righteousness (may have short term suffering followed by long term pleasure- on earth and in Heaven). If you love yourself repent of your sins (lying, hatred, unforgiveness, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, stealing, dishonouring your parents etc) & believe in Jesus for forgiveness of sins. (Jesus died on the Cross as a sacrifice and defeated death by rising from the dead)

Golfers aren't going around trying to force other people to play golf.

@1trueNRG

10 жыл бұрын

But some will, not a majority. People who don't play golf or dislike golf will try to get people to not play golf and advocate against it. It's a two way street of the lesser populations of both categories.

@BlackMaleASMR

10 жыл бұрын

1trueNRG The reason I said that is because he's insinuating that atheism is kind of useless like "a-golfer". The problem is that Christians are constantly trying to impose their beliefs/religion on others by trying to change the laws to suit their desires. Golfers aren't trying to impose anything on others. That's why there's no "a-golfer" movement. Golfers aren't trying to force the schools to teach kids golf in school, but Christians are constantly trying to force schools to teach intelligent design. Christians are constantly trying to ban things like gay marriage and abortion. Golfers usually want to stay to themselves and be left alone, and I have no problem with that. I've also never seen anyone try to force a golfer to not play golf.

@1trueNRG

10 жыл бұрын

You are generalizing Christians very wrongly. You know what Christians are constantly trying to do? Be faithful to God and themselves. You know what they aren't constantly trying to do? Change the way other people live to be more the way they want. And I'm positive there are golfers that one golf taught in schools and will attempt to give schools clubs and teams for golf and incorporate it into physical education. I also know a lot of people who think golf is stupid, not a sport and shouldn't be played especially not over other sports available. But much like Christians and Atheists, that isn't the majority. I know a lot of atheists who belittle, antagonize and ostracize religious people, and I know religious people who think it's their way or the hellway, but I don't stereotype them. Sure, there is a reason to be mad at the combination of church and state, but do you really think christian politicians are the best examples of christians? They're barely the best examples of human beings in a lot of cases.

@kokoth

10 жыл бұрын

1trueNRG Christians who do not are disobeying Mark 16:15

@Edited6

10 жыл бұрын

Chris Thompson I don't think "preaching the gospel" has anything to do with 'forcing' your beliefs through law, which is what this conversation is discussing...

"I don't play golf. Is there a word for non-golf players? Do non-golf players gather and strategize? Do non-skiers have a word and come together and talk about the fact that they don't ski?" I'm dying here 😂

@noahhenderson3164

4 жыл бұрын

it's almost like the importance of whether someone believes in a god(s) is much more important than whether you play a particular sport or not. Not to mention the years of persecution and mistreatment of people who have dared to think differently - for example try being a non Catholic christian in Spain in the 16th century But no, yeah. great argument

@Rahn127

4 жыл бұрын

Do you get rejected by your family if you don't play golf ? Do you get fired from your job if they find out you don't play golf ? Do people actively try to pass legislation that will require your children to play golf in school ? Are there countries in the world that would kill you if they found out that you don't play golf ?

@buzz092

4 жыл бұрын

They're called ateeists and their community is at /r/nongolfers 🙃

@k.k8791

4 жыл бұрын

@@Rahn127 you all have a point and you're right, i felt something was off in the argument, and here you are highlighting it, maybe Neil forgot the part of oppression and the wild discrimination that was and still being practiced on the non golf players!

@k.sullivan6303

3 жыл бұрын

It was not a great analogy from Neil. Religion is a much more important entity than golf in our world. Most of society is involved in religion compared to golf where most of society could care less. I am an avid golf fan however. Secondly, religion impacts the world much much more than golf. There are things that happen in the world due to religion or in the name of religion that many times need to be addressed. I'm talking about religious holidays being forced on people of other religions in some countries. I'm talking about wars fought over religion that might really be wars over land and power. Some key people involved in these wars might be driven by cruelty and wickedness. On a lighter note, people who are new to each other could find themselves in some kind of interaction where religion is involved, and either right at that moment, or eventually, it might be prudent for one person to tell the other person or group, that he or she is different and not part of a particular religious group. Think of a Jew being offered a slice of pizza with bacon on it. Think of marriage proposals. Think of people that do not appreciate the invention of electricity. People who are agnostic or atheist may have a good reason to gather and discuss the way they live, problems they encounter and solutions to those problems. Many people they meet may be part of a religious denomination, and be very decent people indeed. Therefore an atheist might want to let that other person know who they really are and where they stand out of respect for the other person. So, if your not a golfer...yes, just forget about a non golfer type of group supporting non golfers. Your life will not be impacted. However, If you are an Agnostic or an Athiest, there could be a number of good reasons for you to meet with debate, and converse with other people. That's just my take on it all. I can still appreciate Neil's video here.

Very well said. I don't care what your beliefs are. I am thankful for your gift/ Knowledge that you share with the world.

"Do non golfers come together, and strategize" Neil is out here clowning on these guys lmao

@unclesamzbastardsonu.s.b.s9315

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, he was clowning on the idiocy of having to be labeled atheist. So it was more of an insult to our global society.

@unclesamzbastardsonu.s.b.s9315

2 жыл бұрын

He is simplifying a complex issue. He was in support of Atheist movements that "strategized" to stop creationism in schools, since it goes against science.

One of the greatest minds of all time. Tyson is an ample voice of reason in an age of extreme ignorance.

@tabularasa0606

10 жыл бұрын

It's not the fact that he is smart that stands him out. It's the fact that he's able to communicate it understandable. There are possibly lots of smarter people around, but they may not be able to communicate it as accurately.

@zacharybice5539

10 жыл бұрын

sorry dude, but since you're going for an intelligent declarative statement Imma have to point out your misuse of ample. You could use it to modify reason, but as it modifies "voice" it sounds like you're saying he's a good enough voice of reason that we don't need any other voices. you could also be referring to his girth, saying he is both ample in size and reasonable in voice.

@zacharybice5539

10 жыл бұрын

tabularasa0606 damn, your grammar is trippin as well. Facts don't stand anything out, something stands out (or doesn't) due to facts. Also, since understandable modifies a verb, it has to be an adverb, understandably. I agree with you tho, Tyson's relateability is one of his best qualities.

@stephencindrich6787

10 ай бұрын

One of the greatest minds of all time?? Hardly. He is a decent physics populizer.

This video perplexes me a bit. I think he just wants to move past the need for labels. But agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. I am an agnostic atheist. Agnosticism and gnosticism are declarations of knowledge/certainty. It is possible to be an agnostic theist or a gnostic theist, as it is possible to be an agnostic atheist and a gnostic atheist. Gnostic Theist = I know for a fact there is a god. Agnostic Theist = I believe there is a god but cannot be certain. Gnostic Atheist = I know for a fact there is no god. Agnostic Atheist = I do not believe in a god but cannot be certain.

@grizzkarizz2960

3 жыл бұрын

He's basically saying that he's an agnostic atheist. He says he has seen no evidence of a god, or something like that. That's what an atheist is. He's an atheist, whether he likes it or not.

@haseeman5562

3 жыл бұрын

@@grizzkarizz2960 he literally said "if there is any evidence of god i am ready to accept it" that's not an atheist and believe it or not all scientists are like that, they think there is no god but they are ready to accept that there is.

@grizzkarizz2960

3 жыл бұрын

@@haseeman5562 I'm an atheist who thinks exactly the same way. He says he's ready to accept the notion if any evidence is provided. Cool. That means he doesn't at this point of time believe that one exists. That's the definition of an atheist.

@haseeman5562

3 жыл бұрын

@@grizzkarizz2960 that's still not an atheist, atheist are annoying people who won't believe in a god even if we find actual evidence while neil on the hand just doesn't care, there is a difference.

@grizzkarizz2960

3 жыл бұрын

@@haseeman5562 nope. That's a gnostic atheist. Neil's beliefs, or lack of, are exactly like mine. I will accept that there is a god if shown evidence. He is an agnostic atheist.

Anyone else always feel that when we 'label' anything with a noun, it often limits the subject's potential to evolve outside a label. Marriage aka Intimate friends for life / Companionship of growth and love. Even love - Whenever I say it to my wife, I feel it loses it's FEEL. Labels everywhere.

I adore this man!! He speaks my language and I agree with everything he said 100%. 👍🏻😊❤️

Such a wise answer. I'm a Christian and I don't care about his religion or anybody else's. I just care about how we can contribute to make the world better.

@w.8424

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you think he's going to hell?

@ygate4546

3 жыл бұрын

@@w.8424 i think of hell as a place where you regret not being with God

@lc1777

3 жыл бұрын

There is hardly any possibility of going to heaven.there are thousands of confident religions on the planet. Each having their own versions of heaven and hell, god etc. So it will be a huge amount of luck for you to have been born into the right religion and go to heaven 😂

@EduardoSalamanca1960

3 жыл бұрын

@@lc1777 with all the hundreds of religions out there that are all made up by humans, I feel like none of them would possibly be true and if there was only one true religion, let’s say Christianity, then all the other 6 billion people in the planet would be in hell for believing in something else or being an atheist/agnostic while the 1 billion so called Christians which not all of them are actually deeply religious and they just claim to be a Christian, go to heaven. That would mean about 14% would actually get in heaven while the other 86% stay in hell for an eternity and Satan would have a lot work to do dealing with 6 billion people in hell. And the whole concept of an afterlife just sounds like fiction to me meant to scare people so they can believe in god and even I was questioning this concept myself when I was a kid when I was more religious.

@lc1777

3 жыл бұрын

@@EduardoSalamanca1960 agreed

As a Protestant, I have gained a massive amount of respect towards Agnostics over the years. This upped the ante.

@marysalisbury9270

10 ай бұрын

I was baptized Catholic and raised Presbyterian. A whole lot of confusion ensued.

@Kevin-qp5we

9 ай бұрын

So why then?

@eyan_official

7 ай бұрын

same situation for me too.@@marysalisbury9270

@leopoldone2664

4 ай бұрын

Agnostics deserve 0 respect. They act in a way that makes them seem above the parts of the dispute. Their elevated and not-caring attitude is low key annoying and snob. Their slothfulness is very conceited

Avoiding labels is impossible and this is nonsensical. He's taking the political approach because he wants to avoid the negatives. This is a spineless way to do things

Agnostic is about knowledge. Theist or atheist is about belief. He gave a half ass answer that panders more to theists.

I think it hilarious that even after Tyson just plainly explained his stance, there are people here trying to assign a certain (different) meaning to his explanation.

Lol athiests in the comments trying to convince themselves that Neil isn't agnostic

@Murchad99

9 жыл бұрын

"Lol athiests in the comments trying to convince themselves that Neil isn't agnostic " You actually have to go back like 2+ weeks and 45 comments to find the last person who insisted he call himself an Atheist, and I don't recall seeing ANYONE here claim he wasn't agnostic. I know you're a one-and-done poo-and-run poster, but please... change the record.

@tirilis175

9 жыл бұрын

Lol agnostic atheists in the comments trying to convince themselves that they aren't atheist

@maxracer176

9 жыл бұрын

Murchad99 Dude, quit obsessing over this video, you're taking up half the comment space

@Monster33336

9 жыл бұрын

Cody Stott What makes your definition better? Because there's the slightest minor similarity that's almost irrelevant by definition so happens to conveniently fall into a loophole, you thrive on that and by default EVERYONE on the planet are atheists including: Monkeys Rats Worms Bugs, and all born babies and agnostics, to me sounds as deplorable as anything imaginable.

@tirilis175

9 жыл бұрын

Calvin21X *Preface:* my interpretation of the word atheist means very simply, *not* theist (there is no middle ground, but there are different sub-types, i.e. agnostic atheists). Now, with that in mind, how would you not consider *non-theism* the default considering a historic time before the concept of theism was even conceived? It *is* the default; this isn't logically contestable.

Well said, Neil. This describes my position very well. Thank you.

I’ve never favorited a video, but if a video ever needed to be put into a “favorites” playlist, this video is it.

this just makes me like him even more

@noahhenderson3164

4 жыл бұрын

oh yes the man that told people "caring about mass shooting victims is nonsensical cuz stats bro". Good man to like even more

@OptimusDelta

4 жыл бұрын

@@noahhenderson3164 mathematically there is no difference.stats actually doesn't give a fuck whether you died riddled with bullets or a deadly virus.Human life at the end causes a tiny variation in the infinite scale of the universe.

@noahhenderson3164

4 жыл бұрын

@@OptimusDelta "empathy is useless cuz there is no meaning in the universe" "I refuse to abide by evolutionary adaptations while praying to the science of the lack of meaning of the universe" - very picking and choosing of you. Just like our friend Tyson. It's almost the same thing thiests do. Fancy that

@FatherCorn

4 жыл бұрын

@@OptimusDelta that way of thinking takes away what makes us human

@seessoos1235

4 жыл бұрын

@@noahhenderson3164 you took words out of your ass

I'm an Atheist but I'm totally down with being a Theist if he shows himself. The point of an opinion is that it's flexible and adaptable.

@halogod18

10 жыл бұрын

I wish more people were like you, not forcing your opinions on people. What this world needs, is everyone to be open minded.

@MrPWNZombies

10 жыл бұрын

halogod18 And I wish believers would stop going to my house almost every saturday to talk to me about god, even though they're aware that i'm an Atheist, but I guess it completely skips their mind!!

0:49 Where we gonna find the real time??!

Thanks! Although it is often nice to label a movement in order for it to gain traction!

I would describe myself as an agnostic atheist. I’m always very skeptical and am always wondering, but feel that at the end of the day heaven and god isn’t real. However I’m open to anything. I’ve had many conversations with friends, some saying my dad who committed suicide when I was 9 would go to hell because he was atheist. Was I offended? No, because I asked the question, expecting an honest answer. And I didn’t debate at all. I listened to so many peoples stories of what they believe, people from Christians to Bahai etc, some online some irl, and let them say their entire story, not debating them once. A person should always do this. Don’t debate, listen. If you debate you won’t learn anything. If you listen however, you will gain much knowledge potentially lost.

@starlipika

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your insight.

@killoffman

4 жыл бұрын

Good insight bro

@humanbeing1429

3 жыл бұрын

So true. If only we learned to listen to everyone for what they have to say, we would be better people. Most people listen only to counter on all points but what you did opens up the path to a bigger understanding. Thank you for sharing this.

@rashednehri3630

3 жыл бұрын

Brother have read about Islam ??

@crazyduck7040

3 жыл бұрын

@@rashednehri3630 no one cares What you think

Theist - Someone who believes in a god Atheist - Someone who does not believe in god. An atheist is not necessarily someone who claims there is no god (though there are some that do) Agnostic is a truth claim, or rather a claim that you do not know if there is a god. You can be both an agnostic and an atheist. They are not exclusive terms since they are not about the same thing. You can also be an agnostic theist. (I know of a few myself). As far as I can tell, Neil does not believe in god, there for he is an atheist. However he does not know if there is no god, so he is also agnostic. I understand why Neil doesn't want to call himself an atheist, but based on the definition he is one whether he likes it or not.

He is right on two counts. 1. people will assign a lot of baggage (much of it false) the the label atheist. Believe me, I know. 2. There are active promoters of atheism who may meet, etc. I have no time for that either. That being said, there is a need to oppose those who are trying to make us a Christian nation and make us a theocracy like Iran. Where he is wrong is calling atheism an "ism." Simple entomology shows that it is a lack of a being an "ism." He is a great scientist, but less great as a lexicographer. You may have noticed I am not promoting atheism - merely trying to explain it. Tyson is correct, it isn't a thing, like not playing golf isn't a hobby. I have even used the same golf analogy at the before. He believes pretty much the same as I do, lacking evidence, there is no reason to believe in god. Does one believe in Superman, a being with superhuman strength who comes from Planet Krypton? Or does one wonder if it might be true? I light of the complete lack of evidence, I do not waste my time wondering if it is true.

1) Respect your fellow in humanity. 2) Respect your fellows in life (plants and animals, or Earth) 3) Don't do douchebag things. 4) Let people believe whatever they want, live your life in peace. We don't need holy books to learn how to be good humans. This is learnt at home from the parents.

I think the people who say that this disappoints them aren't seeing the bigger picture here. Namely that Neil advocates science and science literacy first and frankly, that's all we really need here. I *am* atheist but as long as people are taught *ACTUAL* science and how it applies to them, especially the young, then whatever else you believe is irrelevant.

@atreyutheascended9174

10 жыл бұрын

Well said.

"i think for myself", quite rare in todays world to see that.

to not be in any category lets you be your most authentic self and there by serving your purpose in the world.