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@Demon-qc1ye

11 ай бұрын

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@dakidvision

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for reporting on this

@kevingame3198

11 ай бұрын

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@BrooklynBiggis

11 ай бұрын

.

@donovan7469

11 ай бұрын

……….

Sports gamers are basically NPCs that get scammed once a year

@SpikeRazzor

11 ай бұрын

Pretty much.

@Khqra

11 ай бұрын

Look at me guys I can say npcs 🎉

@toxics.

11 ай бұрын

Like putting a bucket over a shopkeepers head in Skyrim. Swindled each time by the same old trick.

@pieck5460

11 ай бұрын

​@@Khqraok?

@IamJay02

11 ай бұрын

​@@Khqrawe got ourselves a comedian here folks

NBA 2k franchise has been a disgusting stain on the gaming industry for years and honestly the people who waste money buying it every year and waste more still on microtransactions deserve their losses.

@Planag7

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I remember the series fondly from Dreamcast but I think I maybe The crazy ones I remember those games being decent back then

@Miragexe

11 ай бұрын

It's because their playerbase tends to be very different than most other games, they don't think about it and just buy it every year and don't play many other games outside of it.

@blackwhite2361

11 ай бұрын

PLEEEEASE shout it out from the top of the highest mountain.

@PointsofData

11 ай бұрын

No they really don't deserve it. That's unfair. The majority of the people who buy sports games are casual gamers, or non-gamers who just want to try a video game based on their favorite sport. They are not in tune with these issues and should not be burned at the stake for not having in depth knowledge of the gaming industry and what is considered unacceptable by most gamers. I am sure there are many willing to put up with it also because the servers for the old games are shut down and they just want to keep playing they're favorite game...I understand that feeling myself because of Overwatch, I've almost broke several times and jumped to OW2 but (thankfully?) some new shitty thing pops up that drives me away again. I do agree with you that anyone aware of these issues with the franchise should not be continuing to support it but if they do, it's their own money down the drain, not yours. No reason to get mad if you aren't invested in the franchise.

@KingOfAllNoobs

11 ай бұрын

At most it should be an every other year purchase and a 50 pct discount

My biggest question is how were the review scores that high? The disconnect between corporate reviewers and actual gamers is starting to visibly widen.

@jaybee4288

11 ай бұрын

It’s because corporate reviewers use a 1/10 or 1/100 scale and take into account gameplay graphics music etc. While user reviews tend to use a 0-3 or 8-10 scale and take into account what their favorite streamer thinks, whether they like the company or not, if they lost in multiplayer, if they think microtransactions are ruining the country etc etc. A user will play the game for 80 hours and review it 0/10 after completing it three times because they don’t like Blizzard. The professional reviewer will give it a flat 4/10 simply for having 80 hours gameplay. And won’t deduct points because Blizzard did something bad unrelated to the game that week.

@Shinbu150

11 ай бұрын

You don't think the critic game reviews are bought? User reviews are way more accurate.

@Niitroxyde

11 ай бұрын

Because reviewers can't talk down too much otherwise they lose some privileges like review copies, invitation to events and stuff like that, thus losing on exclusivities that can hurt their business. That's modern corporate journalism 101: You're either unemployed or a little b*tch.

@anabolicino

11 ай бұрын

Its always been there, Kotaku and IGN have always been a thing.

@ansel569

11 ай бұрын

i mean theyre still reviewing the game standalone, which they say is fine outside of the microtransactions and the release schedule. there still are casual players who dont care and will enjoy the game anyway. the capital G gamers are giving the game a low score not because that’s genuinely how they have evaluated every aspect of the game, but because of how it relates to the franchise as a whole and because it makes a statement.

Watching the sports gamers finally defend themselves against thier sport overlords is a amazing sight!

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

its a simple re-run of the past XX years of a show.

@Hydro_Pump06

11 ай бұрын

They’re not defending themselves. They all still bought the game. 2k doesn’t care if the game is terrible, they only care if it makes them money. They still made a ton of money especially off of console purchases

@chim8939

11 ай бұрын

​@@Hydro_Pump06yup. 2k is still going to make a billion+ dollars.

@John_Notmylastname

11 ай бұрын

They complain every year. This is nothing new yet they keep buying every year.

@thatsprettygood9613

10 ай бұрын

(it's only 5% of them)

We absolutely need a worst game of the year awards alongside the GOTY's

@samuraispike4615

11 ай бұрын

Honestly, their would be more games in that category than their are for GOTY.

@cloudmv15

11 ай бұрын

The list would have every sport game that came out that year

@shadiafifi54

11 ай бұрын

The video game equivalent of the Razzies? I'd watch that.

@komi8628

11 ай бұрын

i agree. we should shame them for making a bad game

@michaellane5381

11 ай бұрын

​@diomedes7971they should make the awards be penalties and fines for corporate that go to job reassignment for the low level devs who lose their jobs on behalf of that countries programs.

The worst part is, they force players to buy the new edition or not play at all because they shut down the servers for the older versions of the game. So not only can you not update your rosters, you also lose any online progress and all of your microtransactions are deleted forever. Its better if you just never touch one of these games.

@LordPichuPal

11 ай бұрын

This is why I don't touch the shitty online modes. I held off for months on buying 2K23 until I read a review that basically summarized it as "the single player experience and franchise mode are great and very improved. MyCareer and online modes are a broken mess and not worth touching. Depending what you're looking for will determine if it's worth your time." I ended up getting it on discount and had fun with it because I only play franchise mode. The MyCareer mode and MTX Hell modes are just not worth opening, they're so fucking awful. It's a shame most people don't learn that lesson and still keep getting sucked in by those modes infested with gambling and cheaters.

@pvshka

11 ай бұрын

The worst part is, fans actually maintain older games with mods for up-to-date rosters and private servers for online play. But the majority of braindeads don't care and just keep forking over cash every year.

@manoftherainshorts9075

11 ай бұрын

Lol. So it's somehow even worse than FIFA? Damn.

@SirDubbs

11 ай бұрын

Too bad most of the gamers who buy these games have no self-control. The only way these publishers are going to get better is if their actions affect their bottom line and gamers rather get fucked over if it means they get to keep playing their games.

@shadiafifi54

11 ай бұрын

And yet, there's no other game in town because the AAA companies have a deathgrip on the licenses to the big sports franchises.

Someone needs to make a documentary on how insanely disgusting 2K’s micro transactions are for people.

@lakerfan2874

11 ай бұрын

I don't even buy microtransactions since I don't play MyCareer exclusively. I mainly stay offline with MyTeam, and the mode I play the most is MyNBA. If you wanna go on about how this game is pay-to-win, just think about how a team can spend a lot of money to get 4 All-Star caliber players who turned into superstars after the off-season can either get in the playoffs at a very high seed and still lose to a team like the Nuggets, or win it all for a year. That may be due to simulation, but in a full 12-minute quarter game, it'll show a lot about how dominant they can be. Hell, it's like that IRL, and the Suns are one of them now. They have 1 superstar in KD, 2 All-Star players in Booker and Beal, with Ayton being the fringe star where no one truly can put him in a category. The gameplay's different from last year's. The scoreboard in the Lebron Era is great, looking like from 2K11, and the Modern Era scoreboard is the best we've had since 2K7. What I have an issue with the game is them removing the Auction House in MyTeam, but being able to pick and choose what card you wanna buy is a lot better than trying to buy the cheapest card on the market, making packs worthless, which is why they made the best cards a lot more expensive than a box. Plus, I don't think that this game on PC is the Next Gen version since someone was commenting on my stream about them not being able to play MyNBA Eras.

@farrismusicofficial

10 ай бұрын

@@lakerfan2874I understand where you’re coming from. But the fact that 2K has been using micro-transactions for people who don’t want to grind for their stats/rank, for the last 6-7 YEARS, makes it impossible to play online if you don’t want to pay money. You either start off at rank “55” or “65” (I can’t remember), then as soon as you hop on a 1v1, you get SMACKED. And more often than not, the person is ranked “99”. The game is broken as hell lmfao I only play offline and have been forever. They’re stuck in a loop as well cause if they were to ever rid of pay-to-play, there goes all the twitch streams and all the people who pay for that. And they NEVER get the 09-10 Lakers roster correct. I’ve seen them fuck up the 02 Lakers too🤣

@Frosty1026

10 ай бұрын

Gotta love take two and their greed it ceases to amaze me time and time again just look at gta as well another great take two product it’s just shit I can’t stand that company

@SOGFC

10 ай бұрын

True

@lil_bear

10 ай бұрын

Yeah your player can’t even make a shot unless you pay 10 bucks

NBA 2k24 is the greatest game I have ever played. As I was playing I was doing the usual, buying microtransactions and got some amazing things. However the reason this is by far the greatest game ever is that my dad came home after 17 years to tell me to stop using his credit card and threw my computer out the window. It's great to be reunited with family again.

@samholdsworth420

11 ай бұрын

Hug your dad for me

@matthewreynolds23

10 ай бұрын

Did he at least bring cigs and milk?

@wilkinscoffee4228

10 ай бұрын

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

@longbottomleaf6918

10 ай бұрын

He then ranted about how some idiot kid kept beating him in NBA 2k24 and it was the son.

@falloutthewindowcrazy7608

10 ай бұрын

​@@wilkinscoffee4228a man of legendary interests I see?

Every time we think the game industry can’t possibly get any lower, they never cease to prove us wrong.

@Planag7

11 ай бұрын

That unity incident teach us all we need to know that if there's a way to make more money they will. Thank goodness Ea didn't put that into practice where they would charge for reloads :o

@corvus8638

11 ай бұрын

@@Planag7They won’t stop until they can charge a fee for living

@jiwik731

11 ай бұрын

Zelnick knows no bottom.

@DQBlizzard_

11 ай бұрын

No, the CONSUMER proves how stupid they are. If you are mad about how shitty the games are, STOP FUCKING BUYING THEM.

@Crazozourus

11 ай бұрын

It gets lower because gamers let it gets lower. As long as people will pay for the trash they will be served the trash.

THE BROKEN JOYSTICKS AWARDS: CHOOSE YOUR WORST GOTY OF THE YEAR. HONORABLE MENTION: Unity Game Engine (as suggested by Lagbeard in the replies) -Gollum -Overwatch 2 -Redfall -NBA 2K24 -Forspoken -Crime Boss: Rockay City -Madden 2K24 -Saints Row (2022) ADD YOUR NOMINATIONS IN THE REPLIES. (Shoutout to Megaspartan 23 in the replies for the name).

@Megaspartan23

11 ай бұрын

The broken joystick awards

@AgrPerez

11 ай бұрын

You're forgetting Immortal: Avernus or something like that. It's basically Forspoken, except the main character is a guy.

@DavidUtau

11 ай бұрын

​@@AgrPerezhave you played both? That one at least is passable. But Forspoken? Atrocious.

@nahuelkid

11 ай бұрын

​@@DavidUtauCall me crazy but at least Forspoken had cool movement and some combat variety. Immortals of Aveum is just mediocre nothing. Both feel like passable games from the 2000s but thats beside the point.

@carloszdezoito18

11 ай бұрын

- Crime Boss: Rockay City

There needs to be some type of legislation for these companies not to be able to get away with this, absolutely criminal.

@22e62ab

11 ай бұрын

Exactly, if you advertise something and pay for something. That's what you should get. It's false advertising at its worst. If you bought a new car and found out it was half finished and nothing like it was advertised to be. You'd take that company to court. You wouldn't just go do the same thing the next year.

@wuhanclan

11 ай бұрын

I haven't bought a 2k game in like a decade. Not so sure they are advertising any features that aren't present. It's mostly zombie consumers that keep buying the same dumb shit despite there being zero evidence it's going to be better.

@22e62ab

11 ай бұрын

@@wuhanclan try advertising features that don't work. But your right about the zombie consumers.

@michaelt5188

11 ай бұрын

I blame the customers who keep repeating their business with shoddy companies

@clanerickson2184

11 ай бұрын

There's no reason for the government to get involved in this. People just need to stop buying it. Capitalism will work it out on its own.

Yeah, realizing that one year isn't enough time to develop a "new" game or even do major gameplay changes/improvements (if there is no continuous development being done) is pretty much the most important takeaway from this. You pretty much know right away your paying full prize for what feels like a minor patch.

@maxrodriguez889

11 ай бұрын

Seriously, we've been asking for this for years. There is no reason why the game shouldnt just be a free to play "NBA 2K" base game that gets yearly updates, that would at least somewhat justify the overwhelming microtransactions (i still dont bite) since you're not paying a pointless $70 off the rip. That said, i played nba 2k21 on my SWITCH before getting a 75% discounted 2k23 for the new xbox which is what i'll most likely be playing for the next few years.

@awshi4369

10 ай бұрын

@@maxrodriguez889because then they cant do teaser trailers of sweaty men bouncing around every year

@maxrodriguez889

10 ай бұрын

@@awshi4369 they wasting our money on them trailers 🤧🤧

Buying the same game every year expecting something to change is the definition of insanity

@SotoSlasher57

11 ай бұрын

Exactly what Vaas taught us.

@lucifugerofocale5847

11 ай бұрын

Them npc gamers have a yearly subscription on insanity 💀

@gorgosanma

11 ай бұрын

They do have changes, some virtual players names and stats. They pay hundreds of dollars for a few numbers being changed inside a database.

@morbid6944

11 ай бұрын

Yeah they change 2023 to 2024 lmao@@gorgosanma

@backpackpepelon3867

11 ай бұрын

These kids playing 2k are not really gamers tbh.

We should have an award for "Biggest embarrassment of the year" Cant wait to hear the apology letter from 2K

@MOORE4U2

11 ай бұрын

Will it, by chance, be accompanied with guitar and be unloaded to KZread?

@shadowkhan422

11 ай бұрын

Pretty sure they have them made for the next 20 years in advance

@jarotheboar8398

11 ай бұрын

​@@MOORE4U2i wouldn't be surprised if they brought a dog in the camera

@joshuatealeaves

11 ай бұрын

Senior Apologist Mike Ribbons Apologist Advisor Julia Perez Matthew Bradford Christopher Pint Junior Apologist Elizabeth Jencks

@UnknownPerson-wc7wf

11 ай бұрын

Not an apology letter, a fucking jpeg with a long ass text

Imagine buying the same game every year then being mad at it. Definition of insanity.

@gwapcity2098

10 ай бұрын

Lol this year it's different on next gen gameplay wise watch how many people are playing and money it makes...I bet you don't even play nba 2k

@glorytotheLordalmighty777

10 ай бұрын

​@@gwapcity2098lol no its not they added a fucking game pass so the game really cost 250 for true 99 ovr exp 😂😂

@ajax3310

10 ай бұрын

The fact these games are literally fkn free on PSN network and gamepass six months laters too goes to show

Its become impossible to underestimate these developers and studios

Even if Yong is out here speaking the truth the sad reality is lots of people still give these companies full access to their credit card. So it likely will never change.

@Dante999000

11 ай бұрын

Then those people still buying this trash "game" are also part of the problem and should be either disciplined or taught a lesson if they don't stop.

@kevingame3198

11 ай бұрын

​@@Dante999000But we need to have a protest on the level of what is going on with the writers strike.

@thedarkemissary

11 ай бұрын

​@@Dante999000Is there a problem? If "those" people enjoy buying and playing it, how is it a problem? It's a problem cause you and Yong and a bunch of other loud ass people on th internet, who had no intention of playing 2K anyway, says it is? Bunch of meaningless people with nothing else to do than complain on the internets.

@davidpliskin3330

11 ай бұрын

@@Dante999000 yes a proper flogging is in order.

@davidpliskin3330

11 ай бұрын

@@kevingame3198 protests aren’t effective if people still buy the product in the background. Companies could care less until they see a substantial outcome on their bottom line.

To be honest if you’re a 2k player of anything you deserve it. They’ve been doing this type of scam for years and people are only realising this now ?

@lamario

11 ай бұрын

Yup. I stopped buying traditional sports games once developers started releasing "legacy editions" and adding micro transactions. You can charge for dumb stuff but can't simply push through a roster update year over year?

@Creat0rXYZ

11 ай бұрын

Players currently supporting the 2k franchise still don't realise it, even when presented with evidence

@lamar310

11 ай бұрын

I play sports games but only single player mode and franchise mode. I NEVER see any micro transactions. Online players and people who create a player are the targets for greed and scamming sounds like. Just putting it out there that people can play this game and enjoy it cuz we are able to avoid the micro transactions

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

correction: for decades

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

believe it or not, people have recognized, and people have dropped the habit. everybody is neglecting the wave of new players who find their way into a franchise YEARLY. little jimmy over there is 5 years old. he is gonna get nba2k31 on his 11th birthday. time is weird aint it.

Thanks for this, Kiryu-chan. I haven’t paid full price for NBA 2k since 2k17 and I don’t regret it. Not only is it low-effort, they’re putting effort into the non-NBA aspect. It’s a sports game not a RPG. And don’t get me started on the micro transactions.

The more frustrating thing is that some folks keep buying these type of games knowing its going to be shady.

My favorite time of year when people complain about how tiresome sports games are only to have them inevitably wind up at the top of the only charts that matter which are the sales charts makes me sad

@corvus8638

11 ай бұрын

They aren’t real gamers so don’t be sad

@theshabs

11 ай бұрын

​@corvus8638 they're real dollars though dude. Not some made up gamer bucks.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

@diomedes7971 PES was striving a long way paralell to fifa... the major difference in the two? one game would have a "NEYMAR" the other would have a "NIMARY" or something like that ... if you have to pick between original names vs scrambled letters... i would take gameplay. (in other words not fifa)

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

so yes, they actually did have the option... they just couldnt live with the fact they are not cognizant enough to decipher the alphabet soup some clubnames and playernames were made out to be. so they pay their fixed 60 dollars, their 100s of MTX and live with the pain of being fucked up the ass, just so they have POGBA instead of ROKPA.

@habadasheryjones

11 ай бұрын

An element of blame is on the player. Most sports game players won't buy games without official league licenses. "My teams gotta be in it." And guess what shady publishers own the league licenses currently. 2K and EA. Everyone's favorites. So what happens is games made without licenses fall below radar not making any money because "my teams gotta be in it" and games made with the license are just the same crap year in and out like Madden and 2K. I miss the times where we at least got good arcade sports games too instead of just simulation sports every single year. "My team's gotta be in it" seems to be prioritized over fun gameplay. I'm gonna go play some Tape to Tape because I don't swing that way.

The microtransactions in sports games will never get better because, generally, the people that play sports games *ONLY* play that/those games. So where most of us might buy several (like 15+ for me 😅) games a year, they buy one and just dump what the rest of us would spend on many games into their one game.

@ra6765

11 ай бұрын

Yeah theyre part of the problem but how are we gonna stop them from spending their money like a mindless zombie? We cant beat them up either cuz these sports fans are usually jocks that are bigger than us lmao

@RichardPhillips1066

11 ай бұрын

Tbf what the hell are they supposed to do they have no options , each sport is captured by a single game , it's either buy it or don't bother at all

@lashed1980

11 ай бұрын

​@@ra6765I thought that was what the 2nd amendment was for?

@Tackitt

11 ай бұрын

I had a friend that spent more on Madden than I have on my beefy pc and all my games combined.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

@@RichardPhillips1066 while probably true for some sports, soccer had PES to go along with Fifa almost the entire way (in the 1990s, ISS was what then became PES) the real meat of the games -> difference was marginal. the biggest difference there was to point out? well, the combination and order of letters... while FIFA had "RONALDO" , PES would have something like "GORILDO". the looks, the stats, the history and all that stuff based off of actual records... was still there.

A type of competition we didn't know we wanted, but definitely needed, given the state of the industry.

did you see in Starfield there is a character called Myong and when she flies her ship away she says: "MYEONG OUTTT!!!" XD

The fact that sports games haven’t evolved into a live service by now is proof that money is the main driver for the genre. You know the industry is crumbling when the casual consumer is starting to notice the cracks

@falguard

11 ай бұрын

The franchise rights cost an arm and a leg; 2k thus passes the (lack of) savings on to the consumer.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

i dont get it. live service is the go-to moneymaker nowadays. how is them not being liveservice, proof that money is their main drive, when theres a lot of money in live service? could argue an annual release is semi live service. live service in itself is a rip-off. whats the service? toggling things on and off, having only certain loadouts avaiable at certain times and decorating it as "seasonal" is not a live service. its fuckery.

@linusgustafsson2629

11 ай бұрын

It is worse. They are not live services, but they are gacha games. So you have to pay a ton for the content, but will never have any reason for why you paid that extra money except profits for the EA company.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

furthermore... the rights / licenses have only moved into the billions a while ago. i actually havent been keeping up and dont know how it all panned out, but that was the headlines a while ago... so they been doing this during the "cheaper" times too. anyhow..whatever may be... EA is not gonna stop. i have been watching this for 25 yrs now (put my banhammer on EA a fuckin quarter of a century ago, imagine that) its not gonna change.... people will continue to move in to the franchise, just as many many people have actually move out of it... EA is set they been set longer than a lot of you have been alive, your wallet wont matter.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

@@linusgustafsson2629 good point

Read the title and thought "Man AAA gaming is really becoming a race to the bottom" and then clicked the video... YongYea the mind reader.

@dampking

11 ай бұрын

I miss the ET on atari days

@Deliveredmean42

11 ай бұрын

​@@dampkingsurprisingly that wasn't the worse game that game out that year in the 80s.

@Blood-PawWerewolf

11 ай бұрын

@@Deliveredmean42exactly. It was the trash that was released after that. They were the equivalent of shovelware in today’s terms.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

i mean ... theres only so much one can say about it right? lmao

@mrplayfulshade1038

11 ай бұрын

I think this comment is cap

Honestly though, if you really do buy these games every year or even "just" every other year, you kind of deserve this.

@beesmitty3435

10 ай бұрын

You understand they have monopolies on each sport.. Imagine if battle royal or mmo could be monopolized. Like if you wanted to play a battle royal or mmo but only one game existed.. That's what's it's like being a sports gamer.

@bubblegumxo

10 ай бұрын

​@@beesmitty3435the difference being sports never change, it will always be the same game. You can only make so many meaningful updates every few years when graphics have a noticeable and worthwhile improvement. Roster updates could be handled via free DLC, and game modes/features wouldn't have to come and go between entries. In most other genres there is no limit to the creativity of the project. Imagine paying $70 every year for a Call of Duty that was 98% the same with the same gameplay and exact same stages, but only the new one had renamed NPCS and teams in multi-player. Oh and maybe the physics of the dirt flying around was slightly enhanced. That's why people who continue to buy these sports games year after year are a meme.

I have played both games thanks to a friend that let's me game share and they not only added another vc option to buy for $150 and you can also now buy your way up to the max rank in a season pass that gives you the ability to lock your badges at silver and gold depending on which battle pass you have, which literally is pay to win. You can lock badges at gold and silver which means a badge won't drop past that threshold, the badges are completely game changing, but if you want to be able to grind to level 40 in the season pass you CANNOT grind out a character because you cannot get the vc to get your character up. I can't play with my friends because I refuse to spend the money on it.

That was quick. At least Overwatch 2 won't be alone.

@aaronpride9581

11 ай бұрын

It's lonely at the top.

@gabrielkow8867

11 ай бұрын

​@@aaronpride9581It's lonely at the bottom

@kineticstar

11 ай бұрын

EA: It's not in the game unless you pay for it!

@novaleader7305

11 ай бұрын

Don't worry the idiot 2K apoligists will have it off the worst games of all time list in like a month lmao

@MaoRatto

11 ай бұрын

Overwatch 2 is just broken promises first and foremost, and ruined its predecessor.

Sports fans are the BIGGEST simps and the gaming companies know it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This gaming model is working as intended, it's not a bug, it's a feature.

@nojuanatall3281

11 ай бұрын

They really are. It is insane how entertained they are by obviously rigged games.

@theretrogamingnerd3316

11 ай бұрын

Sports games are owned by a monopoly. These games are the only games sports gamers can play. It's either play these games, or play nothing at all. I think they know they are being scammed, but I think they are okay with it because it's all they have.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

@@theretrogamingnerd3316 PES (which way back was ISS) has lived and strived alongside 95% of FIFAs enitre life. People bought fifa because of the names being correct, as apposed to a slight alphabetsoup that PES had, but anybody with half a brain cell could decipher them... stats, transfers, numbers and looks were still based off of actual records, no less than fifa... its just the names, an alphabetical order of letters. out of the round aboutr 13-14 people i played soccer games with, 2 of them preferred Fifa over PES. the game was just simply better in our opinion and nobody was gonna open their wallets to EA's fuckery just for sorted letters on players, whom if you'Re a fan of, you dont need to see their name anway. lol. not to even mention you could just patch or mod pes in 2 mnutes and have all the originals.

I used to play the NHL games back in the day, and there was always some kind of gameplay improvement, new mechanics, graphics, new motion capture actions, physics, etc. There was (almost) always improvements and NO monetization.

@blazingfuryoffire1

11 ай бұрын

Same with the older Madden NFL games. Every year brought more detailed control of the players.

I play 2k as a basketball fan and how those review scores are mid 70s is beyond me. There’s minuscule levels of improvements (however these improvements are just stuff that was re-added to the game after a couple years of absence) but online gameplay is still delayed and littered with MTs. There’s a market for a less greedy company to come in and really challenge 2k as the go to basketball game because currently it’s a one horse race and the horse has 1 leg.

The sad part is that, people most likely knew the game was going to be bad and knew before hand it was still a old Gen game on pc. And STILLL bought it. These people will never have a humbling experience cause they like to get spit in the face by these publishers. Can't help but to not even feel sad for them. Of course you can refund before 2 hrs, but to even go through that it's sad in itself.

This is why I miss having more then one studio making a certain sports game. There was always that one feature you wanted. Now it’s this good game buried under micro transactions it sucks if they wanna make money just turn these games into platforms and charge for updates they have their fans that’ll buy it every year

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

i miss PES too.

@andrewneese6484

11 ай бұрын

Back when both 2K and EA were actually good, and yes that time did exist, and they both made NFL games, both made NBA games and were competing against each other for consumers dollars. If only we could get back to that

@JP-jd8wr

11 ай бұрын

I agree. When I was a kid there were 3 regular NBA games and then like 3 other streetball games

The character model at 4:39 seems like the average player reaction to the series as it stands now

Dennis Rodman looking like a Resident evil zombie kills me😂😂😂

Overwatch 2: dam…. We really screwed up…. NBA 2K24: You underestimate our POWER!

@lightdarksoul2097

11 ай бұрын

I don't think overwatch 2 cares that much

crazy how EA’s sports games of the past years are 95% the same releases yet there are people buy them annually

@almalone3282

11 ай бұрын

Its normies who like sports but don't follow the gaming industry or its trends

@AntiBellum

11 ай бұрын

What’s also crazy is that these games literally have a built in feature where you can download fan-made rosters, which is one reason people cite for buying the new ones. NCAA13 still gets fan-made rosters every year.

@TWDub

11 ай бұрын

This isn't EA.

@POKENAR

11 ай бұрын

@@almalone3282 Even they know, a guy I know at work was talking about it, says he only buys every third or fourth game because even he knows its just slightly better graphics.

@sylents8005

11 ай бұрын

​@@POKENAR he should play other genres of games, something I think sports fans don't do. If they did then they'd know more inherently.

I saw so many ads for this game prelaunch where they flaunted how realistic the graphics were. I thought it was weird that they never showed any gameplay (ui, menu, player options, gamemodes).

There is also a create your own character mode, that they allow you to pay for and make better instead of playing and earning points that way :| it's 100% a cash cow and so long as people continue to allow them to sell them this, it'll continue to happen. They always remove support of the previous game so you'd have to do roster changes manually, and if you're a fifa fan that's waaaaaay more teams than the ones in the 2K basketball games.

We live in an age where game companies fight with each other to "achieve" Worst Game in the History of Mankind.

@linusgustafsson2629

11 ай бұрын

All game companies these days are just online casinos without any countries applying the laws on them.

@omnitravis

11 ай бұрын

@@linusgustafsson2629 i dont think you understand what a casino is, but sure.

@ChickenJoe-tq6xd

11 ай бұрын

@@omnitravishow is it not gambling? You pay money for a chance at getting the jackpot card, it’s literally gambling but also for kids

@LagiohX3

11 ай бұрын

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd with gambling you have a low chance of getting your money back

@STAIND12300

11 ай бұрын

​@@linusgustafsson2629not all no. Insomniac and Santa Monica are definitely for the players

This is the first NBA 2K game I haven’t bought since 2K9. The fact that NBA 2K is a 70+ dollar game, that executive bonuses are tied to micro-transactions, the fact that the prices for virtual currency are ridiculous, and that there is now a paid Battle Pass made me give this game a hard pass. Until they feel it in their pockets or when there is competition, they won’t change. I’m the exact person this game appeals to and I’m done.

@chernobyl169

11 ай бұрын

Imagine paying full price for the same game fourteen times.

@Crowfist

11 ай бұрын

Its a game about a game. What is there to innovate?

@Almighty_Mage

11 ай бұрын

Congrats on breaking the cycle. 2k13 was my last

@darnell16player

11 ай бұрын

NBA 2k14 was my last one and I haven’t brought one since then

@czaczaczar

11 ай бұрын

That's why you sail the high seas.

4:35 A couple of times I've heard you use the term "News Salads", which seemed like a fitting description of some sources. But I just realised you were actually saying "News outlets"! 😆

That thumbnail is nightmare fuel

Damn I can still remember going to GameStop just to play the demo for NBA 2k10. Crazy how little progress has been made in favor of monetization. There is no reason to buy the new 2k anymore when you can just update the rosters for free.

@RusticRonnie

11 ай бұрын

What’s crazy is you can see what’s missing in newer games that used to be there way clearer than any new If they added any thing at all

@robdude999

11 ай бұрын

I don’t generally play sports games but my idea is to release one game per generation and make it shine. The best it can be. Then update the roster yearly.

@Gpsrater5

11 ай бұрын

Progress has been made wdym 🤨

@joshido7352

11 ай бұрын

@@Gpsrater5 they don’t play the game bro it’s just fun to complain about microtransactions.

We need a developer behind the scenes so we can actually see what they really be working on in their offices.

@tarille1043

11 ай бұрын

"Working on" ???

@rogerloger1935

11 ай бұрын

Copy and paste

@PointsofData

11 ай бұрын

That would get the developer fired and blacklisted

@itachi93674

11 ай бұрын

Someone brought this up they actually work on understanding the psychology of the payer oh wait mean player. They want to see what mechanics make the person or child most addicted to the game and will get them to open up those credit cards

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

@@itachi93674 they have entire departments for this. they dont only work on such things, they hire people for it and have staff taking classes on it...

I bought FIFA23 last year around December when it was on sale. Hated it so much, got 100 hours in, and left it in my library to rot. Then I found out about the modding scene and they managed to make the game a proper simulator and improved gameplay to make it enjoyable as I hate playing against other players. I just want a managerial experience as do many other people. But EA just assumes everyone likes the arcadey gameplay. Since I modder the game, I've put in close to 300 more hours. And I am not buying the next instalment. Feel so dumb that I didn't find out about this sooner. TFW: My friends that bought the 24th release enjoyed the modded 23rd version more than the newer one lmfao.

I like how they acted like locking badges behind attribute progression was some sort of well thought out innovation. These cheap bastards aren’t fooling anyone, we all know they just want more people to spend

@michaeltompkinsjr.7696

10 ай бұрын

That's the reason why people like AlmightySneaky quit the new one. 2K is destroying their own franchise, and more people are going to be looking for improvement upon this franchise now, which will force a change.

You know we're in a sad state of affairs with gaming when games are now basically taking turns with being the worst rated game on Steam, Metacritic, etc. "No! You had it last time! Give it to me or I'm telling!"

@xaayer

11 ай бұрын

And then they also attack actual good games

I'd like to imagine that Activsion-Blizz is like "Great job guys, we aren't the worst on Steam anymore!"

This seems like a part of Summoning Salt's new series, "History of the 1% Positive Reviews" steam speedrun.

Christ almighty that thumbnail gives me chills...

NBA2K25 should be made in Unity 3D, it would be installed so many times man!

@ddaodao9332

11 ай бұрын

Lol😂😂😂😂😂

Blizzard is probably celebrating in their office rn

@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl

11 ай бұрын

Same

"What do people want? We changed the number and did the roster update?!?!?!" -2k probably

You know there an old line from wargames that I think can apply to this situations. “The only winning move is not to play”

Congratulations 2K Games..we knew you could do it. Again and again, you demonstrate the quality(or lack thereof), initiative(or lack thereof) and customer service(or lack thereof) that you provide to gamers....Never change!!! 🙂

@MrTheinfoman

11 ай бұрын

You can Take Two as well since they own 2k

The fact these companies have the audacity to raise the prices of base games to $70 on top of all the monetization baffles me. To each their own but I refuse to ever pay $70 for any modern day game.

@LDNpro01

10 ай бұрын

It is even worse in other countries. Some games on the UK stores are actually asking for £70!! Which works out to ~$84, a total f*cking joke, I only buy games on sale nowadays as I refuse to get so badly ripped off.

@lmaonade.

10 ай бұрын

I really regret not finding out about the modding scene with these EA games. You can just mod the game and make an annual upgrade each year. Because nothing changes at all, what's the point in wasting all your money on BS?

@arch6384

10 ай бұрын

2k has the 100 and 150 dollar editions too so

@michaelcorcoran8768

10 ай бұрын

​@@LDNpro01yeah although I think taxes included in UK prices. So in the United States you would add between 5 and 12% with sales tax to the $70. So closer to like 77 to $80 for a US person paying the game full price

I came here for the thumbnail alone 😂

That's why I jumped on the chance once I heard about the $1 pricing glitch at the Peru eshop for NSW

I’ve always been blown away by buddies of mine that buy the newest game console at release and only buy the newest 2K and Madden every year. They tend to put a lot of time into them though and get their money’s worth in a “hours per dollar spent” way so it’s hard for me to criticize. I just wish these companies wouldn’t take advantage of them so much.

@bejammin2000

11 ай бұрын

That's pretty much the reason why sports games fill the shelves at used book stores and the like. They take and sell the old game for pennies, then buy the new one.

It's crazy I stopped buying madden and 2k in 2017 and leading up to that I was hopeful for a turn around with the quality of these games. 6 years later and its actually worse and I havent been able to play a sports game since and I played them daily for years.

@SIPEROTH

11 ай бұрын

Yeah i used to play FIFA but i don't bother anymore. I actually wanted to check some USA football and i wet and bought an old Madden from 2005 because i heard those were the actual good ones.

@Claptain_Planet

11 ай бұрын

@@SIPEROTH try nfl 2k5 probably the best football game ever also madden 08 is really good. If you have a pc or laptop you can play them through an emulator at higher resolutions and 60 fps plus theres some mods to have current rosters and uniforms.

@dnboii4404

10 ай бұрын

Madden 11 was the last time I bought an NFL game. The 2K Football series was amazing, and I played those almost daily. I feel like if 2K got their hands on a license it would turn out how the NBA is now, which is sad

there's no way i frequently play BOTH of the worst reviewed games on steam 😭

The only time an annual release cycle debatably worked was the original run of King of Fighters in the 90s. That didn't even work from a financial standpoint as SNK originally closed in 2000, but no two entries in the series were exactly alike and they were all solid games.

It's like a damn competition among these companies to be as lazy or stupid as possible.

@jigglypuff5480

11 ай бұрын

As smart as they can actually. Less effort to more money. Its the 'Gamers' getting dumb and dumber AF.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

competition or simply fun & games.

What makes it even worse is the Game Journalist Reviewers giving the game good metacritic scores too

@lightdarksoul2097

11 ай бұрын

Honestly I think it's just because well what else will those sports gamers play since there is no other official sports games like that

@lightdarksoul2097

11 ай бұрын

@MrSpiritstealer i mean yeah you get games early and you get invited to stuff above others. Plus you're allowed to show more than someone a company dislikes since KZread copyright sucks

Here is a story for you. Croatia has changed it currency from kuna to euro from 01.01.2023 and to this day sony still hasn't changed it on the ps store our only way of buying games online is thru gift cards...

I remember how cool 2k20 myteam was especially the galaxy opals and the locker codes (i never got anything good) This was also years ago and once the servers got discontinued i found out how much of a scam this series is

Think about the fact that two of the game industry giants in EA and 2K populate the majority of the worst reviewed games of all-time, likely to the fact that many of their their games are microtransaction hell scapes or lazy cash grabs at best. Simultaneously, those companies have some of the highest selling games.

My cousins favourite game franchise and literally what he plays 90% of the time for the past 10 years or so. He buys the new game every year and so do most of his friends.

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

that would make me change my last name...

You know what's funny about these annual sports games? It made sense back in the day because the game you shipped was the game you got. Nowadays that's not an issue anymore. Games can be updated, patched, the whole nine yards, they could very well release just one game and update it with each new sports season, only releasing a new game every few years when they get a better engine. But they won't, because money.

Ea is in a class action lawsuit for their monetization. They are charging to much for the sims4 and some of their packs are completely broken and they have done both thing to fix it.

@ItsameOPTIMUSPRIME

10 ай бұрын

Oh man, you should hear how they used the Sims gurus to gaslight their entire community that basically plays the game lol.

The last and first 2k game I've ever bought was 2k18. Built my character up, enjoyed the cheesy story, but overall was having fun. But when they shut down mycareer mode to FORCE players to buy newer instalments, i never spent another dime

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

you did the right thing.

It's like an Olympic Sport to see who can piss off their player bases the most. It's almost an art form.

@haaxxx9

11 ай бұрын

Already saw that with the Saints Row 2022 before and after it launched and now look at Deep Silver Volition. They went defunct over 2 weeks ago and all I have to say to them "You reap what you sow" for treating the fans very poorly and launching a game that not even Twitter users (Target audience) can't even stand that shit!

Most times the devs have a lot less than 1 year to create a new game. With patching the previous release their development time has been as short as 12 weeks in an EA games case (specifically NHL here). These games should be every couple of years (or better yet once a generation) not only for the fans/consumers, but the Devs as well.

Honestly I'm more convinced the only real effort they spend is the title change, for each year.

Just remember, NBA 2K20 got a rated E for everyone when it literally had stimulating gambling

@PointsofData

11 ай бұрын

I am unsure what your point is. It was rated appropriately according to the ESRB's standards...if you don't agree with those standards I totally get it but the rating isn't something the game company decides.

@CatManOfTaste

11 ай бұрын

​@PointsofData pokemon had to remove its game corners for fictional gambling with fake coins, you have to pay to do the same in fifa, which one was rated pg13

@PointsofData

11 ай бұрын

@@CatManOfTaste PG13 is not an ESRB rating. I believe you are referring to PEGI, which is...Australian? E for Everyone is American.

@slyp5409

11 ай бұрын

@@PointsofDataPokémon was rated T for teen when it was fake gambling, with fake coins, for fake prizes. NBA was rated E for everyone for gambling with real money. The backlash was very much warranted

@CatManOfTaste

11 ай бұрын

@@PointsofData my bad, t for teen, not pg13, point still stands

2023’s games really love being some of the worst reviewed games/ports on Steam. It’s like it’s a company competition, who can beat who.

@thomasedwardharrison2879

11 ай бұрын

The usual suspects are EA, Activision blizzard, Ubisoft, Konami and 2K

@pockettwo

11 ай бұрын

@@thomasedwardharrison2879 konami and ubisoft?

@thomasedwardharrison2879

11 ай бұрын

@@pockettwo I mean whenever there is a bad game it’s usually them

@Betito1171

11 ай бұрын

We’ve had the lowest lows but we’ve had some pretty damn good highs too

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

people also have gotten pretty darn whiney over the years... not that its not in its right place with some of these games. but still...

And idiots still plop $500 on micro transactions so their my players can wear a Sombrero The fact you can’t even move your my player from one version to the next is BS

I'm surprised Take-Two Interactive owns Rockstar and this , such a stark difference in quality control

@Creeper_ofDoom

10 ай бұрын

Rockstar: Making Genuine Masterpeices (mostly) 2K: Rereleasing the same games with altered content every year with Microtransactions

At this point, it feels like the title of "the worst reviewed game on Steam" doesn't mean anything anymore.

@Blanktester685

11 ай бұрын

just because overwatch 2 had it recently now it doesnt mean anything?

@polca4love

11 ай бұрын

Never meant much. Just to either have a few laughs or to despair since this games make more money than Elden Ring and BG3 combined.

@lightdarksoul2097

11 ай бұрын

​@@Blanktester685not just overwatch but many games have earned the title in the last few years

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

i guess we need that government managed social score to really become a thing. but even then.... ea/t2 would find a way. but you are right.... reviews, scores, the dislike button youtube used to have... all means nothing.

I don’t even feel bad for sports gamers anymore they do it to themselves

@MoneyTrees2012

11 ай бұрын

2k does it to us

@PotatoPaul69

11 ай бұрын

@@MoneyTrees2012 No. You keep enabling 2k to do this by buying this garbage.

@MoneyTrees2012

11 ай бұрын

@@PotatoPaul69 No I'm pretty sure that's 2ks monopoly on sports games. Admire the effort though

@raidenshotgun5997

11 ай бұрын

@@MoneyTrees2012 What are you? 12? Have some restraint and dont buy this, I swear Sports Gamers are horrible spenders with zero remorse

@MoneyTrees2012

11 ай бұрын

@@raidenshotgun5997 Not sure where that delusional comment came from but it's not the brain

That attack on titan thumbnail is epic

Still not used to how Yong looks without glasses.

That's a scary ass baller thumbnail

@1beatcher

11 ай бұрын

I think that's Dennis Rodman?

It's a general issue with the annual/scheduled release titles. We saw this with Pokemon and CoD where developers are tweaking the game rather than giving us a large jump. And when we see that large jump, it usually is accompanied by a regression in another aspect. And ultimately, we're left with severely undercooked games like this and Scarlet/Violet

@lightdarksoul2097

11 ай бұрын

I mean cod developers get three years though usually isn't that why they have multiple teams

@miswiredkenya7320

11 ай бұрын

@@lightdarksoul2097 yeah, but that doesn't always mean that those teams are focusing on what we expect them to/being instructed to work on those aspects. As with sports games, a lot of attention is being directed less towards the gameplay and more towards the monetization. What good is 100s of people if they're all being told to work on stuff that can be monetized?

@lightdarksoul2097

11 ай бұрын

@@miswiredkenya7320 I doubt like 90 percent of the people are working honestly with the hour long reviews Angry Joe makes on sports games

@miswiredkenya7320

11 ай бұрын

@@lightdarksoul2097 that could also be an issue, in which there's very little recourse we have outside of just hoping they get fired. Of course we could also hope organizations like the NFL, NBA etc go the FIFA route, but that's highly unlikely

@lightdarksoul2097

11 ай бұрын

@@miswiredkenya7320 like if they just spread the license more it would force EA to be better

Speaking as someone who actually likes sports games... I knew a sports game taking the crown of "worst reviewed on Steam" would happen eventually, I'm just surprised it wasn't Madden. This has been a problem the sports genre has had for years now. It's not just NBA2K, it's Madden, it's NHL, it's "EAFC", it's MLB the Show, it's every AAA sports title that puts pretty graphics and microtransactions above all else while the gameplay continues to deteriorate and us fans of this genre scream endlessly into the void for them to fix things or reimplement basic features they used to have twenty years ago! Because at the end of the day, like you said, these companies have no incentive to fix these games. They know as long as it has that league's logo on the box people will buy it and spend obscene amounts of money on MyTeam and since all these sports leagues only have one official game to their name, they have no competition and thus no reason to improve. At least we have indie sports games and roster update mods for the older and better games.

I think you just inadvertently exposed the exact lowest score all of those journalists use for their scale. So 60 is the lowest most will go, but some will not go below 70.

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAM...! But seriously this is insane. If this keeps up then Steam will have to introduce a Worst Games Award at one point.

People have been reporting on how terrible these franchises have been for a decade or more and maybe now it'll FINALLY be the breaking point for sports gamers...

@petratyraanderson

11 ай бұрын

It won't

@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O

11 ай бұрын

You're more than likely right. I guess the spiral continues downwards instead of hitting rock bottom.

@KnucklesEmerald-wj9vo

11 ай бұрын

madden 24 is its best launch ever so NO

@Miragexe

11 ай бұрын

@@KnucklesEmerald-wj9vo It has a 33% rating lmao, I sure as hell hope that's not the best launch ever because that's pathetic.

@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O

11 ай бұрын

@KnucklesEmerald-wj9vo if you say so lol what a laughably low bar to set.

their next genius move: get valve to charge users for steam reviews. people would pay to drop a thumbs down on them. the review score wouldnt change and they would rake in even more money in ways that, as usual, shouldnt be possible/legal.

As a basketball fan, the last NBA2K game I bought was 2K17. 7 years ago, they made a better game.

This video could have been made 8 years ago and it still would have applied to today.

Sports gamers are a very specific gamer type and I think they are easier to be exploited by such practices. Because they want to play a proper counterpart of the real life thing, like NBA, Madden etc.

Some games this year got the highest scores ever and others just aimed for the opposite, truly a great year for gaming😂

That thumbnail is nightmare fuel 😂😂😂

This is what happens with monopolies. Nobody can make an NBA or NFL game but EA.

@stotgunvsface5092

11 ай бұрын

To be fair. Ea had nothing to do with this one. This is on 2k games. Ea has NFL and football(soccer) without fifa now.

@BaithNa

11 ай бұрын

EA doesn't make NBA games, its Take Two

@staringcorgi6475

11 ай бұрын

Ea stopped making nba games years ago

@lucasLSD

11 ай бұрын

NBA actually didn't have an exclusive license, it's why the EA version is dead since 2K used to be better. Now it's a disgrace.

@PointsofData

11 ай бұрын

It's not a monopoly...it's a license. Like with WWE. Or Spider Man.

2k25 game dev - double click opens 2k24 game folder , finds ini file changes 2k24 to 2k25 , saves file. Right clicks on game folder hits copy drags contents over to 2k25 folder

For those who don’t get it. It costs about $150 to just reach an 85 overall with clothes that don’t include the starter set. If you try to play organic, you MIGHT reach 85 by the end of December IF you play every single day. Your player starts at a 60 and levels to 99. If all your friend have greater stats, they won’t wanna play with you so it pretty much forces you to spend money to even play it online

@jasonkoroma4323

11 ай бұрын

How insidious. Killing the fun in gaming

@kosmique

11 ай бұрын

lil tip from someones who been gaming for 35+ years. stop being a p*ssy to the grind. if you're so heavily invested in a game that you play it for years and decades, you have no business hiding from the grind. even less paying to skip it. Gaming is about overcoming a challenge. they make a game, we'Re supposed to beat it. if developers want to make it a challenge for me to climb up through all the casual noobs that are paying their way to max level, I will gladly take that challenge and will f*cking nail it every time, as I have been.

@rishyrish

11 ай бұрын

It does not bro it’s is 60$ a build wtf 150$ where did you come up with that 😂

@walteryoung3492

11 ай бұрын

Bout 60 for the game. 60 for the build. 30 for the animations

@rishyrish

11 ай бұрын

@@walteryoung3492 the animations were basically free this year lol you can tell who played and didn’t at most if you wanted a dunk or lay up it was 3k VC at Max you can get that from playing lol