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  • @AustenAlexander
    @AustenAlexander5 жыл бұрын

    How many are considering PACT Seaman or Undes? What do you think?

  • @Ava_vee

    @Ava_vee

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! I am going as PACT SN. Going to bootcamp on FEB. Kinda nervous and excited. New life, new experience, new people

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    this is exciting! You will LOVE A school because you will get to visit Chicago

  • @areddue22

    @areddue22

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was in the pact program.. ended up getting a dar and switched to LS

  • @bevohorns9023

    @bevohorns9023

    5 жыл бұрын

    How is the ET rate?

  • @heathdoi1

    @heathdoi1

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was a pact SR in 2006, and then switched to MA in boot camp

  • @kevinortiz420
    @kevinortiz4205 жыл бұрын

    Finally a video that’s not just bashing pact just work hard

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    We like to keep it real over here 💯

  • @samm1883

    @samm1883

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s trash 🤷

  • @darthslackus499
    @darthslackus4995 жыл бұрын

    “…if you join the Navy you should be on the ship because you’re a sailor..” Absolutely! -Lt. Green, US Navy Mountain Warfare Unit

  • @eddiehizo3365

    @eddiehizo3365

    5 жыл бұрын

    Unless you go in as a seabees.

  • @donaldjames267

    @donaldjames267

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eddie Hizo or AWO

  • @ZoomZip

    @ZoomZip

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not if you are in a VQ squadron.

  • @darthslackus499

    @darthslackus499

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZoomZip Can't wait to hear about the Air Force Submarine Fleet

  • @johnnynunezz

    @johnnynunezz

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂facts

  • @patrickmatthewdavid3056
    @patrickmatthewdavid30565 жыл бұрын

    "Pick what you want to do & not what you're told to do" this was great man thanks for the video 🙂

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    exactly! Thanks, Patrick. I appreciate it

  • @silverfmj7007
    @silverfmj70075 жыл бұрын

    Lewis seems like a nice wholesome guy !

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    he is a cool dude

  • @silverfmj7007

    @silverfmj7007

    5 жыл бұрын

    Austen Alexander he should make his own channel!

  • @kourtneyscott6309
    @kourtneyscott63093 жыл бұрын

    This made me feel a little less nervous. I’m undes and going out on a ship in a few weeks. I’ve been stressed because all I’ve been hearing are really negative things about having this job, especially on a ship. Thank you!

  • @Swiift2x

    @Swiift2x

    3 жыл бұрын

    How is it so far? I swore in yesterday as a pac seaman 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @SolApathy

    @SolApathy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Swiift2x You never hear from those people ever again, lol...The fall into the crevices of the service, forever stuck as a nobody, with no specific training.

  • @truebezzy12

    @truebezzy12

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SolApathy bro chill

  • @PureSinaatraa

    @PureSinaatraa

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Swiift2x I just completed Bootcamp and one of my Blue Rope RDC was a PACT he said it’s a bunch of Hardwork but he had a lot of fun before he struck for Seabee. I also talked to a lot of battle stations instructors that were PACT and they love it...and the BMs love us 😂

  • @justinfernandez9876

    @justinfernandez9876

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PureSinaatraa why and update

  • @eddiehizo3365
    @eddiehizo33655 жыл бұрын

    I did that pact seamen during my ship duties on a battleship in 1987 when I served. Amazing this hasn't change much.

  • @jefesaidso
    @jefesaidso5 жыл бұрын

    This is so inappropriate but it looks like you guys are passing a blunt back and forth and I can’t stop laughing every time you pass the mic 😂

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    😂 i will never see this video the same.......

  • @globaldayz

    @globaldayz

    5 жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @schauviola8390

    @schauviola8390

    5 жыл бұрын

    hahahahahah seriously I thought about that too when I saw Austen interviewing a female hahaha

  • @jasminegriffin2712

    @jasminegriffin2712

    5 жыл бұрын

    J. Vallejos lol 😂

  • @jamesvanillawafer

    @jamesvanillawafer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lmfao!!

  • @rudyo8409
    @rudyo84095 жыл бұрын

    Lewis" your the kind of person who I would want on my team ! 3 thumbs up brother.

  • @kennethhamblett4792
    @kennethhamblett47925 жыл бұрын

    i also enjoy designing military uniforms. i'm a veteran that's a published author. 1 my books has over 40 illustrations of my uniform designs. i'm now making new edition versions of the books.

  • @livsimon5290

    @livsimon5290

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kenneth Hamblett where can I view your art? ❤️

  • @annej8838
    @annej88385 жыл бұрын

    Lmao the beginning cracked me up. 1st I thought you were taking a blunt from him and not the microphone smh. 2nd the lap joke took me off guard lmao. Good video

  • @mlkejenkins5132
    @mlkejenkins51325 жыл бұрын

    6 year navy veteran. 1976-1982. We called them non-designated strikers, and they came back to Great Lakes for A.T.B.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Whatsup Mike! They went to Great Lakes after the struck for a job?

  • @TheTerriblePilot
    @TheTerriblePilot5 жыл бұрын

    No shave chit for the win.

  • @robertojriosortiz8655
    @robertojriosortiz86554 жыл бұрын

    My man Lewis is a Real G. Going out on January 2020 and this video really pumped me up!!!

  • @sasib9785
    @sasib97854 жыл бұрын

    Seaman is an amazing job, at least you learn more than each others. learn how to servive in the bad day on the sea. learn how to manage your feeling once you away from home and family. and how to save life and collegue once you are facing the difficult moment. Good job for gentleman.

  • @knightstemplar4274
    @knightstemplar42745 жыл бұрын

    Another great vid Austen. You and Lewis make a great team for the channel. Makes me know now that PACT is kind of a good route to take and isn't all misery.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe I can get him in some more videos soon

  • @knightstemplar4274

    @knightstemplar4274

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@AustenAlexander Yeah that would be cool, he does good for someone that is camera shy Haha.

  • @freshcofreshco9811

    @freshcofreshco9811

    Жыл бұрын

    It's hard to get a rating if not in your contract. You have to learn the rating you want on your spare time. You do better in the Army or Marine Corp as an infantrymen . I got out as a deck seaman still an e 3 . I did better in Air Force going through R.O.T.C ,commissioned as a second lieutenant, combat controller. Pact seaman you fucked, get a rating .

  • @freshcofreshco9811

    @freshcofreshco9811

    Жыл бұрын

    Pact seaman you a janitor, mopping,painting,sanding. You can go on ship as an infantryman in Marine Corp.

  • @freshcofreshco9811

    @freshcofreshco9811

    Жыл бұрын

    Join the Army or Marine Corp as an infantrymen is much better deal than Pact seaman.

  • @TheUnderwoodFam
    @TheUnderwoodFam5 жыл бұрын

    Love it when an undes to 3rd has a warfare pin and the 2nd class doesn't! Plus side to undes life

  • @atomichulkster2304

    @atomichulkster2304

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a relative with the first name Bonnie?

  • @greenparrotrice7469
    @greenparrotrice74695 жыл бұрын

    Keep the interviews coming road to 10k

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    yesssss I plan to! Thanks for the support

  • @jakeeubanks1879
    @jakeeubanks18794 жыл бұрын

    I am at MEPs rn and watched your video and really opened my mind to Pact seaman. Thank you

  • @jamesmulroy4919
    @jamesmulroy49193 жыл бұрын

    Good Job Lewis you got your ESWS !!!!

  • @joshuaperez488
    @joshuaperez4884 жыл бұрын

    I’m about to leave for RTC Great Lakes in a couple weeks. As of right now my rate is PACT Airman but they are trying to get me to go EO. Thank you for theses videos

  • @alinicole1135
    @alinicole11355 жыл бұрын

    I’m pact Airman striking for either AZ or PR. I’m also on shore duty for my first command at CAG 5 and it’s the best thing ever!🙂

  • @jasminenorris9986

    @jasminenorris9986

    5 жыл бұрын

    Aliza Nicole I’m tryna go AZ hopefully I get it joining this month

  • @VIVIDVTV

    @VIVIDVTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good luck I think i’m going pact seaman. I’m not sure yet

  • @zeeegoat1875

    @zeeegoat1875

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did you start on a ship when you Where a pact airman?

  • @mikloridden8276

    @mikloridden8276

    2 жыл бұрын

    How did it go

  • @nahanng7791
    @nahanng77913 жыл бұрын

    I scored 90 on my asvab but still had to choose undesignated because I'm not a us citizen yet , I only got the green card status so most of the jobs that I wanted and qualified for require US citizenship and all the jobs that I got offered do not require citizenship but all of them are not what I wanted to choose at first place. How unfortunate huh. Anyways, I will keep my head up and try to get the naturalization process asap so I could select the rate that I wanted and suitable for me.

  • @justinfernandez9876

    @justinfernandez9876

    2 жыл бұрын

    Update I’m on the same boat

  • @hanschoi2502

    @hanschoi2502

    2 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @Yxxx6
    @Yxxx65 жыл бұрын

    Hooyah MA2! Liking the vids!

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    thanks JB!! I appreciate it!

  • @Maintohhoonpagal
    @Maintohhoonpagal5 жыл бұрын

    Really informative

  • @TheDroppinPennies
    @TheDroppinPennies5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video man, very helpful. I’m s pact heading to Little Creek here in a couple weeks.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the support my dude 💪just got back from Little Creek...i like it there. Good luck!

  • @tacomakickz

    @tacomakickz

    5 жыл бұрын

    John Warren I was in little creek it’s not a bad place.

  • @FromDeadtoAlivePodcast
    @FromDeadtoAlivePodcast5 жыл бұрын

    your face when he said “ you should be on a ship because you’re a sailor “ I’m dying 😂

  • @professorhawk777

    @professorhawk777

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bro I was scratching my head at first, but then it dawned on me that there are navy personnel who are stationed at bases, and or their own housing outside of the ones residing on the aircraft carrier or battleship...it makes sense if you take a moment

  • @alinicole1135

    @alinicole1135

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me being A pact on shore duty like 🙄

  • @aarondolney4178
    @aarondolney41782 жыл бұрын

    So I just recently sworn into the navy and this is what I went with. I already kinda like Boatswains mate but I went with PACT seamen just out of curiosity to see what else there is maybe see if I like something else. And boy…I’m excited and nervous as hell for this new chapter of my life.

  • @larisavega

    @larisavega

    Жыл бұрын

    This currently me choosing my job on Friday but the recruiter mentioned to go undesignated… but I really like BM as well. And I’m scared for my future if I go in as a pact seaman

  • @toyag638
    @toyag6385 жыл бұрын

    Thanks really good information

  • @KillerRem
    @KillerRem5 жыл бұрын

    I'm taking undesig, been in DEP for wayyyy too long, 2 years in fact, I 'd rather do undesig while in , than waiting around for a job to come

  • @themaing4451

    @themaing4451

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea me too. All these jobs they offered at meps were terrible

  • @marklee9389

    @marklee9389

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did you pick a rate yet after 2 years?

  • @lablabdog

    @lablabdog

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you pick a rate yet

  • @marklee9389

    @marklee9389

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol I’m in THU while typing this.

  • @TerryleeCrenshaw
    @TerryleeCrenshaw10 ай бұрын

    This is great I ship-out sep 5th this video helped allot. I am pact aviation/airman.

  • @sewalidas9214
    @sewalidas92145 жыл бұрын

    I m from India, my first love in Navy, I like Royal Navy. Your youtube video I like so much. 👍

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @cdelane3335
    @cdelane33353 жыл бұрын

    Lewis seems like a great sensible guy!

  • @bmcutty
    @bmcutty5 жыл бұрын

    i agree undesignated is the way to go

  • @alexstein1522
    @alexstein15222 жыл бұрын

    Undes is just a way for military industrial complex to keep hiring ppl so admirals keep getting higher budgets. It’s also a way to not use civilian clean up since that’s more expensive

  • @jovill8059
    @jovill80594 жыл бұрын

    I wanna go undes cause it ship out the earliest and I’m tryna get out of my current situation.

  • @jerryg1692

    @jerryg1692

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jo Vill I want to get out the earliest too but I chose an aviation rate (ABF). I requested to change an early ship off date and now I’m shipping off in a month. I went through MEPS a week ago. Are you sure you really want to go undes? I think it’s better to have a rate and do your research

  • @ZoomZip

    @ZoomZip

    4 жыл бұрын

    dude, do not go undes !! You're going to regret it man haha.

  • @truebezzy12

    @truebezzy12

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @jovill8059

    @jovill8059

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZoomZip i ended up going as GSM and im in A school rn

  • @nahanng7791

    @nahanng7791

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZoomZip how so? Please let me know.

  • @ChuukeseStink
    @ChuukeseStink4 жыл бұрын

    You holding that MIC like it's a joint! lol. And iron that collar, caught you slacking bro!

  • @SteevyBowman03
    @SteevyBowman035 жыл бұрын

    that was a really good vid

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @kennethhamblett4792
    @kennethhamblett47925 жыл бұрын

    i really wish i went navy instead. i'm army veteran, to my knowledge, on dad's side, 4th generayion in row to go army. i would love to have eithert been religious programs specialist or security forces in the navy. i'm 42 in april. stay awesome. :)

  • @nodrama7636
    @nodrama76365 жыл бұрын

    I live about a mile from the Seal Beach facility and always wondered what goes on there because you see very little activity from Westminster Blvd when driving by...........

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lots of high-level intel stuff, few squirrels here and there, a few sailors and lots of Monster energy drinks lol

  • @nodrama7636

    @nodrama7636

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@AustenAlexander What I see driving by is a lot of guys picking crops (inside the fence).......which always seems odd to me. As a US citizen and veteran I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be allowed inside but if you're some dude with sketchy docs and a sombrero on the back of a flatbed you're ushered right through.....just kind of funny.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can't tell if you're being serious or not lol I've never seen a garden here anywhere. And of course, you will be allowed on if you have a Veteran ID or an escort. Come to say hello one day! I'll show you around

  • @anthonydelacruz5777
    @anthonydelacruz57775 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Currently in DEP going in as PACT AN....... I met someone that was in PACT SN and he ended up MA as well. He said it's going to be fun and everything you work hard for, would be worth it in the end.

  • @anthonydelacruz5777

    @anthonydelacruz5777

    5 жыл бұрын

    Question..... Would you have a chance to get MA as your rate if you go undesignated SN even if you don't qualify for it on your ASVAB test?

  • @markwaner695

    @markwaner695

    5 жыл бұрын

    You’ll love it when you get out of bootcamp. It’s really nice here in Pensacola.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I agree with this. And in response to your other question, I don't think you will qualify if your ASVAB is too low. BUT I may be wrong

  • @60sspider-man29
    @60sspider-man292 жыл бұрын

    Charcoal grey is good. I like Periwinkle blue myself but Charcoal grey is great.

  • @baron7755
    @baron77554 жыл бұрын

    I like Lewis, it seems like if you are in the Navy you should be all about being on ship and deploying

  • @PATD0YLE
    @PATD0YLE5 жыл бұрын

    Im Going PACT, i leave 19 Nov, I heard a lot of bad things / good things about PACT/ undes, If you want a good rate, you have to work for it. I scored decent on ASVAB, I picked PACT because they didn't have all the other rates that i q'ld for open at the time. Like Lewis said, work hard. If your like me and a hard worker in the civilian life, you can prob make it a good run just like Lewis said. do good, work hard, you'll be OK. I see so much shame for people going undes / PACT, but the plus side is your not fully locked to a rate that you or may not like, so you get to see all the inputs.Work Hard = Succeed, Take BS work = Learn and still Succeed

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    exaclty. sounds like you understand it completely. just work hard and the good will come

  • @victorglaviano
    @victorglaviano10 ай бұрын

    I was called a Deck Seaman, Deck Ape or just undesignated... Also 1st Division! I converted to MA after I was what used to be called a 9545 (LE Specialist), just to have to be a 2nd Class to convert.

  • @Kuhmille17
    @Kuhmille174 жыл бұрын

    Binge watching your videos while on quarantine lol

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    4 жыл бұрын

    YESSS

  • @Jollyprez
    @Jollyprez5 жыл бұрын

    Back when I was in, Master-At-Arms ( MA ) wasn't available until you were at least an E-6.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes I've heard that. How long ago were you in?

  • @Jollyprez

    @Jollyprez

    5 жыл бұрын

    '79-'85

  • @theblackknight9783
    @theblackknight97835 жыл бұрын

    I'm in the DEP for the Navy and my ship out date is January 29th. I wanted to pick MA as my rate but failed the depth perception eye test. I was offered the pact seaman rate, but how it was presented to me was kind of a turn off. I ended up picking my 2nd choice QM which sounds very exciting the more I learn about the rate.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    yes I hear QM is a good rate. My buddy is a QM in Virginia. I believe you will have lots of ship time

  • @williamk8970

    @williamk8970

    5 жыл бұрын

    QM don’t do shit!! Ur job sucks

  • @brandoncarson9743

    @brandoncarson9743

    5 жыл бұрын

    Congrats man I ship 22jan2019 I wanted MA as well but it wasn’t offered so I got my second choice HM. See you at Great Lakes

  • @theblackknight9783

    @theblackknight9783

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@brandoncarson9743 I think they are picky on who Navy select for MA. The ASVAB scort isn't the highest, so a lot of people qualify, but I think they find reasons to dq folk.

  • @pasry437

    @pasry437

    5 жыл бұрын

    Need to show discretion posting dates about military personnel is a violation of OPSEC.

  • @michaeldelgado8549
    @michaeldelgado85492 жыл бұрын

    I apreaciate this video alot I'm a future sailor and I will be looking to be a seaman PACT and im very curious how my future will look like

  • @Lisarolly
    @Lisarolly5 жыл бұрын

    My son scored an 83 on his asvab. He picked OS as his job. His job wasn’t available at the time and he didn’t know when it would “open up”. Fast forward his recruiter told him to go undesignated My son trust him. As per my son it’s his biggest regret.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yea the recruiter might have just wanted to get him in...sorry to hear that...when he is ready to strike though he will have lots of jobs available

  • @thegr8keone

    @thegr8keone

    Жыл бұрын

    I wanted to be an OS as well, but I already signed for AO (Second Option) because I wanted to secure the job. The OS opened up, and wanted to change my rate, the recruiter said it’s not possible to switch

  • @faithbrammer1560
    @faithbrammer15605 жыл бұрын

    "Did you get that from Picasso?"😂😂😂

  • @diablojd52
    @diablojd525 жыл бұрын

    Undesignated seaman hardly gets to see other rates. They mostly paint, clean, drive the ship, stand lookout and do pier security. It is ridiculously long hours and hard work. It is also extremely rewarding. I don't suggest anyone goes designated unless someone thinks they want to go BM. If you end up not liking it then you have a chance after a few years to strike out and chose a different job.

  • @TsunaSetsu

    @TsunaSetsu

    5 жыл бұрын

    What's BM?

  • @diablojd52

    @diablojd52

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TsunaSetsu Boatswain's Mate

  • @daniella8400

    @daniella8400

    4 жыл бұрын

    MA is also long hours

  • @taylorhill9547
    @taylorhill95472 жыл бұрын

    I currently am in the DEP Program but I ship out 12/06/2021 , a day before my birthday . And I had job options available for me . Don’t get me wrong , I had a decent ASVAB score but because the other jobs were closed I had to choose between being a CS or a PACT. Hearing this video motivates me even more, it’s all about working hard to earn that rate that you want. Thank you for this ! I swore in Yesterday, but I may leave earlier because that’s what I asked for was to leave ASAP. Hoping for the best!!

  • @miaredwine7040

    @miaredwine7040

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey! I ship out on the same day! I am in the Airman Pact, maybe we will see each other while in Bootcamp or going to A school! :)

  • @jacindakendrick4068

    @jacindakendrick4068

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@miaredwine7040 I ship out the same day as well ! I hope to see you all there ! ☺️

  • @miaredwine7040

    @miaredwine7040

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacindakendrick4068 awesome!! Do you have an Instagram to talk? :)

  • @jacindakendrick4068

    @jacindakendrick4068

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@miaredwine7040 unfortunately i don't, do you have a snapchat instead ?

  • @miaredwine7040

    @miaredwine7040

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacindakendrick4068 I got switched over to HM like I wanted but if you want we can still get each other’s snap so I can let you know how bootcamp is and give pointers!!

  • @whoknows2657
    @whoknows26575 жыл бұрын

    Thx for that video..

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    +milton no problem!

  • @brytonalley9356
    @brytonalley93565 жыл бұрын

    Completely forgot about PACT Fireman...

  • @hadynjohnson2122
    @hadynjohnson21225 жыл бұрын

    Hey Austen great video and thanks to Lewis for his info as well. I am currently in the process of joining the Navy. Wondering if there is a certain length of time before you can choose a rate. In mycase I plan to be an HM but at the moment there's a year wait for that. If you are undeclared and the position you want opens up at any time are you able to take it or is there a certain length of time you must wait before you can choose that option thank you.

  • @cameronedgington8515

    @cameronedgington8515

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ibelieve it's 2 years before you can strike. HM is awesome but crazy over manned right now so advancements will be slow.

  • @Tritondeep
    @Tritondeep5 жыл бұрын

    Had to go in as PACT Seaman due to my legal status. This video really helped my moral. Currently in DEP, thanks for the quality vids brother. Subscribed.

  • @Tritondeep

    @Tritondeep

    5 жыл бұрын

    @sin ya

  • @Tritondeep

    @Tritondeep

    5 жыл бұрын

    @sin added

  • @josephdeluca7602

    @josephdeluca7602

    5 жыл бұрын

    Make the best of it. Like any other rate, you’ll have your good time and bad times. You won’t be able to choose just any Rate, but you’ll have the assurance of knowing that if you don’t like what you’re doing as an Undesignated Sailor, you can pick something else. Good luck!

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    i appreciate it! Hopefully there are others on this channel who can help you out as well. Good luck!

  • @iruinjupiter835

    @iruinjupiter835

    5 жыл бұрын

    jungle bungalow same

  • @mowaoutlaw
    @mowaoutlaw5 жыл бұрын

    APACT to AT1 in 6.5 years. Got to see all the rates before deciding. Really glad I was undes.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    wow that's insane. You picked up first time everytime?

  • @mowaoutlaw

    @mowaoutlaw

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wish. First time for 3rd (Nov 12). Second time for 2nd (Mar 13). Third time for 1st (Nov 17). Got to take 1st early.

  • @bryanamancha867
    @bryanamancha8675 жыл бұрын

    Fireman PACT ship out August 1st , it was either that or a cook so I took what they gave me. Trying to look for all the info I can gather about being undesignated but there’s not a lot of positive ones out there

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    yes not alot of positivity...but you will be fine and get to explore lots of places

  • @adamzahafi9677
    @adamzahafi96773 жыл бұрын

    I signed my contract yesterday, I qualified for HM but I took the SN-Pact instead since I guaranteed myself the rank of E-4 since I'm going in as an E-3 right out of bootcamp. I guess the hard labor that entails the SN-Pact job description is worth the promotion and the ability to transfer to HM. I've been reading things that say I should've went designated and joined HM right off the bat, but the promotions and ranking in that specific are like you said worse than if someone were to go OS.

  • @willball7612

    @willball7612

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is it difficult to go to HM from s pact?

  • @mptoast4061

    @mptoast4061

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are most likely going to have to extend your contract if you want the automatic E-4 if you are lucky enough to get the rate. You can’t make petty officer as undes

  • @60sspider-man29
    @60sspider-man292 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to be a BM when i get my GED. And i have to get in shape.

  • @aussiesailor5101
    @aussiesailor51015 жыл бұрын

    Austen Alexander All LPRs are now placed in Seamenpac while in DEP, when there BI clears they can pick a rate. I had Seabee UT then they changed it to that because of the rule change. But I'll probably pick it once my BI clears God Willing. You mentioned you'd rather be a Seabed over a MA, why's that?

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    i just feel like SeaBee's get to travel a little more and go tad/tdy more often

  • @sarasvhintentv4211
    @sarasvhintentv42115 жыл бұрын

    You are so amazing 💖💖

  • @sewalidas9214
    @sewalidas92145 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @rudyo8409
    @rudyo84095 жыл бұрын

    When I went in . 1980 we would call these people strikers. And that's what I was. I wanted to be in aviation. but did not know where I wanted to be. I then chose AE' and that is how I got my designation. working my tail off after hours in the electronic shop. Incredible how much thing's have changed. If you know were to find flight line' you'l do just fine. lol.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    I imagine back then there was more competition for the rates

  • @aarondolney4178
    @aarondolney41782 жыл бұрын

    “If you join the navy you should be on the ship because your a sailor” 6:59 his reaction had me laughing 😂

  • @johnnynunezz
    @johnnynunezz3 жыл бұрын

    “Never Again Volunteer Yourself”😂

  • @michaelyoung8382
    @michaelyoung83823 жыл бұрын

    I just got rerated to pact seaman. I wanted CM or GM and didn’t get those options. 2 days later my buddy gets to pick his rate and his options are OS, CM, GM and undes he picked undes. So far nothing good has come out of the navy for me besides getting paid.

  • @lablabdog

    @lablabdog

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oof that sucks. Are you still a pact SN or did you get another chance to re-rate?

  • @michaelyoung8382

    @michaelyoung8382

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lablabdog still pact I gotta wait a year before I can strike a rate and if I don’t they just make me a BM

  • @lablabdog

    @lablabdog

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelyoung8382 oof. Well it’s not too late to retake the ASVAB and score high enough to get one of the intel rates.

  • @sewalidas9214
    @sewalidas92145 жыл бұрын

    Hello Austen, 👍

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    hiiii

  • @dcscott01234
    @dcscott012345 жыл бұрын

    Get that man some patches

  • @bek_flix2718
    @bek_flix27185 жыл бұрын

    It would be cool if you interviewed a Mass communication specialist...im curious about where they get to travel and their working hours/environment...Im getting into a youtube channel and im starting to learn video editing now but I am curious about how much time I will have to put into my channel as a MC.

  • @josephdeluca7602

    @josephdeluca7602

    5 жыл бұрын

    BEK_FLIX I currently reside in GTMO, the MCs here run the Radio Station, and hold interviews at various events across the base. When I deployed at my priour Command, an MC attached to us to film and take pictures of the whole thing. It seems like a good Rate.

  • @user-cm9ij5cz3c
    @user-cm9ij5cz3c4 жыл бұрын

    Hey, isn't Lewis the fellow who lives in the barracks and collects shoes? Good bloke.

  • @victorglaviano

    @victorglaviano

    10 ай бұрын

    Guys like him are always valuable... Guys that will always say yes!

  • @SolApathy
    @SolApathy3 жыл бұрын

    They are messing with a lot of folks that were lined up for rates with their contracts and screwing them over, and forcing them to go undes because the turnover rate is so bad at some of these A school stations. Poor command leadership is to blame, forcing people undes instead of fixing the underlying problem is a huge hit on morale. These videos make it look like undes is a great thing...It's great unless you are someone with a solid ASVAB that is now in limbo. What a horrible way to treat people.

  • @admiralmurat2777

    @admiralmurat2777

    Жыл бұрын

    I was a Nuke Drop with a 99 on the ASVAB. 92 College Credit Hours with 3.8 GPA. Typical Eagle Scout and loves to work. Nuke Program hit hard with Covid restrictions and that I saw someone attempt to kill themselves in the pipeline. I wigged out and went to outpatient therapy. Spent 8 months in limbo TPU to be given undesignated orders and just picked up RP after a year in seaman pact. I wasn't given any options but to go undes though because I did all the right things and followed my chain of commands instructions. Problem with the Navy is they will reward people who don't appreciate it.

  • @TheADAMandDOLAN
    @TheADAMandDOLAN4 жыл бұрын

    Im going as Pact Fireman Engineer, kinda nervous but we will see how it goes, I leave September 12

  • @ericfinkbeiner4232

    @ericfinkbeiner4232

    4 жыл бұрын

    Subwolfer how’s it going?

  • @ben.sith92

    @ben.sith92

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats my rate im going into as

  • @jerryconner4270
    @jerryconner4270 Жыл бұрын

    I enlisted in August 1977 and joined specifically to be a BM (Bosuns Mate). My recruiter said I could have "A" schools or airman, seaman,fireman but I said BM. After bootcamp I had 2 weeks of seaman apprentice school, then directly to the newly commissioned USS Oliver Hazard Perry FFG-7. We just called this as un designated rate. At the time, the MAA rate was open to only E-5 and above who changed their rate to MA. I had a strange journey in the Navy. I worked as a mess management specialist for two years, then as a deck seaman and my last year was appointment by the command Master Chief (VA-75) as leading seaman of 1st Lt. Division. I had the authority of a E-6 But not the pay or rank. Long...LONG hours aboard ship...I felt more like a slave than a sailor. Completed 6 years, honorable discharge.

  • @9-30am
    @9-30am5 жыл бұрын

    I'm an undesignated airman. I'm going to my next command this Saturday. Currently regretting my decision going undes.. I wish I choose the contract next to it.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good luck at your next command. You will be fine bro. You get to see the world and make lots of friends. That's a lot more than others will ever experience

  • @9-30am

    @9-30am

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@AustenAlexander I just contacted my sponsor and I'm assigned to an ABH division. That's actually what I wanted, so I'm glad that turned out how it did.

  • @rizosaurusrex
    @rizosaurusrex Жыл бұрын

    haze grey is is fav color

  • @killiansred1000
    @killiansred10003 жыл бұрын

    What happened to dungarees and white hats? That’s what set us apart from other branches.

  • @MichaelHarris-jn2fr
    @MichaelHarris-jn2fr4 жыл бұрын

    Very good information Austin. Pac seaman maybe a wise way to go to start your Navy career.

  • @razvanarsenieioan7705
    @razvanarsenieioan7705 Жыл бұрын

    RESPECT

  • @aussiesailor5101
    @aussiesailor51015 жыл бұрын

    Don't want to be stuck in a bad rate trying to get MA if they don't give it to me. I scored well on my asvab so I can do most jobs. lol even though my phones auto correct is stuffed.

  • @jamessephar9458
    @jamessephar9458 Жыл бұрын

    I was an undesignated SA in 1976 USS MIDWAY (CV-41). Nothing wrong that that. It makes you into a man. Served 22 years and never forget my friends in 1st. Division.

  • @TheRealGCox
    @TheRealGCox5 жыл бұрын

    From Bahrain to KZread hahaha i fuck with it good video bro

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    pause....were you NSF? It's funny that ya'll somehow see me on YT now

  • @TheRealGCox

    @TheRealGCox

    5 жыл бұрын

    Austen Alexander yessir i was landslide

  • @tacomakickz
    @tacomakickzАй бұрын

    Dang how the time flies, can’t believe we made this like 5 years ago

  • @dljohnson
    @dljohnson Жыл бұрын

    Undes, welcome to deck department

  • @edwardlloyd9468
    @edwardlloyd9468 Жыл бұрын

    I work at the University of Washington, a lot of squirrels, and one jumped out of tree near me when I was at work! _ NO joke.

  • @diablojd52
    @diablojd525 жыл бұрын

    Downtime as an undesignated means you are a skater and spend your time hiding instead of working. Also I will call you out on being able to work out twice a day as undesignated because that also means you were skating.

  • @theblackknight9783

    @theblackknight9783

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you're E3 and below always look busy. Keep a bucket of water and a mop. When you see someone above rank or a yeoman, just start mopping.

  • @hillbillygrizzly7045
    @hillbillygrizzly70455 жыл бұрын

    Grey is my favorite color also ! GODBLESS

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    you and Lew could be best friends!! haha you too!

  • @itperdition
    @itperdition4 жыл бұрын

    When I joined I was guaranteed CTR school. They made an excuse of my enlistment being fraudulent to get me out of an overbooked CTR A school. They didn't have the term PACT, when I was in, it was called "undesignated striker". Not getting that CTR school was the best thing that ever happened to me. I spoke with CTRs at my command and I would've hated it. I got to go around the ship, visit all the departments and pick my own job. Got out after 4 years of excellent service as QM2 (SW). One of the best jobs I ever had in my life.

  • @PaulSullivan828

    @PaulSullivan828

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man I had a really similar experience. When I enlisted I was supposed to be going to Nuclear Field School for 2 years of training... while in boot they said I hadn't disclosed three parking tickets I'd gotten from campus police at university and since they considered each one a crime :/ I couldn't get the required clearance. When I filled out all my paperwork my recruiter had told me that those didn't count as traffic offenses. :/ Editing to add... still had a valuable experience in the Navy just felt like I could have done so many more interesting things than unrated Airman. I would enjoyed things like working on aircraft, I'm great with my hands.

  • @HCSRBLX
    @HCSRBLX2 жыл бұрын

    I’m going to MEPS tomorrow and qualify and want to do MA. But the problem is I have hearing loss in my left ear. I was wondering if SPACT could possibly increase my chances of getting MA while in the Navy. I sign my contract tomorrow and stuff I’m just worried MA won’t be there despite me qualifying.

  • @HCSRBLX

    @HCSRBLX

    Жыл бұрын

    Managed to find my old comment lmao, I got MA and thankfully didn’t go SPACT, my time in boot camp showed me that SPACT has some of the worst sailors imaginable, unfortunately good sailors get caught into the mix because they were lied to by their recruiters. My advice is to never go PACT anything.

  • @toodamankei6451

    @toodamankei6451

    Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to go HM as a PACT-SN?

  • @zachhicks7031
    @zachhicks70314 жыл бұрын

    I heard that now in the Navy you cant be UNDES longer then 6 months anymore, is that true?

  • @crismaridiaz2142
    @crismaridiaz21425 жыл бұрын

    ❤️

  • @mandodasilva1611
    @mandodasilva16114 жыл бұрын

    I’m a Pact-S atm, will I be able to strike for a Seabee rate ?

  • @tetontom1
    @tetontom15 жыл бұрын

    I thought everyone got stuck working shore patrol even me..... now there's a billet that resembles an army mp? A 3rd class as an undes? I thought the Navy tested to see what you were best at.

  • @AustenAlexander

    @AustenAlexander

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, he was Undes before he picked up MA, which is an MP in the Navy. Fairly newer job

  • @deebreezy246
    @deebreezy2462 жыл бұрын

    Going into the airman apprenticeship program. Any tips?

  • @invadertaylor
    @invadertaylor4 жыл бұрын

    Do they give you a list of jobs to pick from?

  • @TheGearhead222
    @TheGearhead222 Жыл бұрын

    Austen, have you received arduous sea duty orders on a combat vessel yet? (EX) IC2 in Texas

  • @psychocritics7443
    @psychocritics74433 жыл бұрын

    Petty Officer Hope You Give me A Tip for The Bootcamp. I'll Be Shipping out To bootcamp Next Year Around May 19th 2021. And My Job Is Pact Seaman.

  • @a.pimentel
    @a.pimentel5 жыл бұрын

    In order to select the MA rate before basic your math and WK has to meet the required score, if your go undesignated first and later decided to go in the MA rate would u still have to re-test in your asvab and score the same or what's the process going into MA as undesignated?

  • @rudyo8409
    @rudyo84095 жыл бұрын

    needle gunning" ships company . right ?