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@AT-wl9yq

Жыл бұрын

Does this mean you won't be out to my house this Friday to personally install the speakers I won and only had to pay shipping and sales tax on? I still have a few Amazon gift cards if you need a little more.

@gregoryfrassetti1276

Жыл бұрын

So you're not stuck in a far away land without your passport and any money...phew I feel better now. I'm glad that Nigerian Prince decided to let you free.

@clementng7718

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@williamr3840

Жыл бұрын

Does this mean I won't be flown to New York to have lunch with Debbie Harry? :0/

@mrpmj00

2 ай бұрын

I love my Parasound 2125v2 but I want to upgrade and must be

Excellent review! Using all your current speakers to find the true sound signature makes for a very informative review.

Hi Steve, thanks for a great channel and great reviews. I think the D-amps with purify tech is really interesting. I own aNAD C298 and it’s really clean, pure and very balanced, no blend or coloration what so ever, just pure power. The speaker and the pre-amp I choose will add the sound coloration, not the power amp. Might sound boring, but I think the opposite. It’s just a new perspective and one ingredient less to take into account when pairing. If you really want to understand how a specific speaker sounds, then the NAD C298 is one step in that direction. It’s like drinking the 100% purest vodka with no blend, it’s what you blend it with that matters. Just a different perspective I wanted to share.

@mrpmj00

2 ай бұрын

I love my Parasound 2125v2 but I want to upgrade and must be

@mrpmj00

2 ай бұрын

To beautifully color the sound, I also use Cardas Parsec RCA cables. My video kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqGss5R7ec3Zp9Y.html

Steve, Thank you for teaching us about other music that is out there!! This is just as important as audio equipment.! I am also so glad you still get excited about reviewing everything!!! A closed mind is an empty mind and you are the exact opposite! And I love this NAD like no other amplifier!!!! There is incredible clean, clear and detailed sound coming from ALL of the speaker I have! You are right, it locks into speakers and just exhibits control like I have never heard before.

@SirMountainpass

6 ай бұрын

I am looking at pairing it with the new M66 pre-amp - it should prove to be a great match 😊

Beautiful amp. I like the industrial design. And from your description of the sonics, it seems like it checks all my boxes.

As always... informative and entertaining...well done, Steve

Outstanding and very educational review, I greatly enjoy your experience and insights. Wow, thank you

Every time I watch you Steve, it always makes me want to listen to more music again.. hah thanks Steve

Look forward to checking on out! Nice review as always, respect your perspective. I know bigger amplifiers are not needed yet always seem to draw me in, especially when heard at moderate to low levels. I will get the PS Audio M1200 at some point as well. Just add them to my growing collection. And yes I try and listen to them all. Thank you kind sir.

@dingdong2103

Жыл бұрын

The need for a bigger amplifier depends on your speaker sensitivity and the loudness you want to play with. If you have speakers that have a low impedance, a small amp may not be able to handle the load without distorting. There are many reasons to like big amps.

@bryonmollica

Жыл бұрын

I moved up to M700 , 2 months ago It's absolutely a game changer

Steve, Thants for the wonderful review. I have the NAD M22 V2 amp which has the previous generation Class D amps from Bruno. I love it!

@angi733

5 ай бұрын

Me too, tempted to pick up a second M22 V2 and try Bridged mode, probably not necessary but hey!

Looks great, I hope I get to try it 😊

Thanks for including the Duet 15s in the review.

Great review, Steve. Makes me want to try an M23. One day my beloved Exposure will need replacing and I think my KEF Reference 3/4 would appreciate the extra power and control... All the best, Rob in Switzerland

Great review Steve. As always, thanks for what you do. Sounds like "Class D" amps have come of age.

@roofpizza1250

Жыл бұрын

LOLZ. Only of you buy the technology from a third party and pay twice for the pleasure. What happens when the licensing agreement expires? After warranty service could prove to be problematic.

Beautiful product. Enjoyed their documentary on KZread.

Fabulous job on the review of the M23... as always! I was hoping you would get a chance to review the NAD Master Series Amps and was wondering what your impressions would be of their class D module. I've been enjoying my M33 for two years now which uses the same amplifier modules. The system is paired with Ohm Walsh Tall 3000's and I have been super happy with that combination. I too felt like I was rediscovering my music collection with the M33 due to its resolution (clarity). Thank you again Steve for all the work you do on this channel, it's such a treat to see your reviews and to get exposed to new music and artists.

@robertbelknap

Жыл бұрын

Al Mcgowan, Whats the soundstage like with the Ohm Walsh Tall 3000, I had some Bose 901's back in the late 80's and I swear no matter wear you stood it was huge stereo.

@almcgowan5289

Жыл бұрын

@@robertbelknap sorry for the delay. The sound stage is wide and deep. My too is about 15’ x 40’ with 10’ ceilings. Honestly there is not a bad place to stand and not get great lighting imagining. The size of you room will determine if the size they recommend. I recall those Bose speakers but never owned a pair. I’ve been super happy with my 3000’s. The people T Ohm are great work. If you have questions you can the owner John very nice. Good luck.

Have to wonder if this NAD paired with a tube pre could really lock into SG’s sensibilities

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

100% a tube preamp

@Staybrown11

Жыл бұрын

Yea…tubes…I’m thinking the same. Preamplifier

I've been enjoying my NAD 3125 with my Dahlquist DQ12's for 30 years.

Nice review! And a 3 year warranty on NAD Masters series

Planet Waves is a great album probably put together in short time. He was having fun as you say. A just for the hell of it album that still blows most anything of the day, out of the water. This raw classic is in my top 10, no doubt.l

I love my Parasound 2125v2 but I want to upgrade and must be

As always, great review. I've heard nothing but rave reviews about the M23. Im very interested in the NAD M33 integrated amplifier/steamer. It uses pretty much this amp. I wonder how it would sound with Martin Logan Motion 40's?

@klxz79

Жыл бұрын

I think the M33 may be more similar to the C298, at least they share the same power supply which is slightly different than the M23’s power supply

@dilbyjones

Жыл бұрын

Me either but if it’s popular in this climate. Who knows what will happen to the price.

@jamienaquin3918

Жыл бұрын

@klxz79 thanks for the clarification. @Tex I agree, unfortunately it's not a good time for me to drop that much money. Both the M23 and M33 are high on my list. Clarity and detail is what I'm looking for, but I may want 3 channel amplification.

@RFIDemocracy

Жыл бұрын

@@klxz79 I believe that it is correct to state that the M23 is the very power amp from the M33

John Rutan would agree about the Vandersteen's as well!

2000+ views in the 1st hour. Congrats Steve & thanks for "spreading the news"!

Does people still care about the Class of the Amplifier ? I use an complete Class D active setup (Neumann) and they sound phenomanal. Same as the Genelec. ATC use Class A and sounded also awesome. Its about the complete concept and setup and most important acoustics. When you buy high quality products the differences are soo small and minimal that an good room acoustic are way more influence the sound than the amp. Nowadays you can buy such good products way easyier and cheaper than nowadays where the selection is limited

I had a pair of Vandersteen 5s , went though many preamps and power amps, sumo, bryston , moon, clasae Krell , all great .My end game was a Aesthetix preamp and a VTL power amp, great match.

The M33 houses the same Purifi Power amp modules and they sound amazing, I have not regretted that purchase. I drive Buchardt Audio S400 SE speakers, those need power and with the M33/M23 they sound amazing.

@cbalano

Жыл бұрын

In August 2021 I purchased the NAD M28 amplifier, which is based on the same Purify Eigentakt modules. By far, the best multichannel amp I owned. Before I owned a 5 channels P5 from Anthem, which required 3000W of power and two electric cables. Now, I own a 7 channels amp that only consumes 1000W, if that. Also the size and the weight is reduced by 60% or so. Clearly, I am not going back to class A/B.

@ceescosijn5656

3 ай бұрын

You have the combo M33\23. That means you don’t use the poweramp of the M33 anymore? I also consider to buy this combo therefore my question.

@rudolfappel7236

3 ай бұрын

@@ceescosijn5656 I only own the M33, and am blown away by its performance. I wrote M33/M23 ad I expect/assume very similar performance. If you consider the separate M23 Power Amplifier, take a look at the new M66 separate Streaming/DAC/PreAmp.

Good stuff

You need a a solid Technics 1200 for the powerful NAD. I wonder how it compares to a lower power amp at low volume.

Bloomin' heck! Exactly how many makes of speakers are there? :0)

I too, love your job. 🙋

This amplifier seems like a must have in the Arsenal! Looks amazing too!

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

I have to agree, 100%

How do you think this amplifier compares with much higher cost Class AB amplifiers- Pass labs, Simaudio, Ayre, Mark Levinson, Dan Agostino etc. What is the tradeoff?

Hi!Steve. Would you mind giving us the right placement of each sound acoustic behind your back? I have'nt heard you tackle any of those sound acoustic.

Glad to hear it can drive the LRS. Can't imagine how transparent that combo would be! Which preamp Steve? I use a Musical Paradise 701ii tube pre with Bryston amp for the LRS. It takes care of tonal beauty & 3D soundstage . 🎶☺️🎶

@carlitomelon4610

Жыл бұрын

PS Got it, a Pass SS preamp. 🎶🙄🎶

Hifi is really all about beauty and pleasure for me! It's a bit funny. I pretty much only like tube amps under 40 watts, especially under 20; or class D cheapies. Now I admit to liking some older Carvers, but then they are the exception that proves the rule. Currently I am playing with a Cayin A-50T, a Dyna Stereo 70, a SABAJ A5, a Reisong you recommended (thanks!), and a pile of little Nobsound, Aiyiam, AudioSource, and the like. If an amp is going to add a sound, then I want it to be sensuous and lovely! Otherwise, neutral is best. And even cheap class D amps can often be remarkably invisible. Generally I drive 1980 Klipsch Cornwalls, big early 60s EVs, and misc home-builts. My guilty pleasure is 4 Bose 901 VI hooked to a 70s Sansui quad receiver. Accuracy only matters if it's fun! It's really all about beauty and pleasure!

Great review Steve. Thanks. I have the cheap man's version, the C298 paired with the Q Acoutics 50's and it sounds immaculate.

@richm4402

Жыл бұрын

Would you mind sharing what preamp you’re using with that C298? Thanks

@edvedder7835

Жыл бұрын

@@richm4402 nad 758v3 which is gonna be replaced soon.

@richm4402

Жыл бұрын

@@edvedder7835 Lol, that’s what I’m using too!

@edvedder7835

Жыл бұрын

@@richm4402 finding a replacement is not easy. The 778 has issues. Want dirac.

@richm4402

Жыл бұрын

@@edvedder7835 I’m thinking the C298 deserves a decent preamp with HT bypass. C658 seems to have issues too, hopefully they’ll come out with a version 2 .

I think i exchange my ML 532h for it, although Gato monobloks are also nice. Is it in the same gradation as the NAD?

Off topic - Have you ever come across a Phase Linear Digital Time delay from the 70's and 80's? Or from other manufactures way back then? Thanks Steve

Yes I have a French made Audiophonics Class D with the e purify modules. Excellent. It absolutely blows away my mc75 monoblocks. 400 watts, 4 ohms. 1200 bucks no vat no tax fast shipping. Yes, distortion free it seems, and hyper clear. Using with Sonusfaber Olympica 1s.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

Sounds yummy

@dilbyjones

Жыл бұрын

@@stephencosta6814but what speakers you use when it “ blows away”

@milosdunjic8718

Жыл бұрын

I have class D AUDIOPHONICS LPA-S500NC Power Amplifier using Hypex NCore NC502MP integrated board and also Buckeye Purifi 1ET400A Amplifier, 2-channel class D … in the hi-gain Purify gain is perfect match for Hypex nc502mp and use them to biamp my Neat Motive 1 speakers.

MUSIC PRODUCERS BEWARE! It's is a great amp acoustically, I love it. I have the M33 but the problem with NAD amps no one is talking about is latency! If you want to play anything live, like putting the stylus on the record, the gap between action and sound is seconds! So when I try to play some ideas in my living room for music production for example, the latency makes its impossible to use. So its only good for Spotify streaming or digital listening, anything analog or music production it falls apart.... not sound wise but timing wise.

Once again another class D showing the absolutists that GREAT sound can come from class D done right. I have a pair of AGD Audion monos that are really fantastic little amps.

@histubeness

9 ай бұрын

Did you get a good deal on your AGD Audions? Were they the mk.lll's? --I was quite impressed with Jay Iyagi's review of them. --But they're expensive.

You wouldn't like the sound of the M23 in the UK !...nice review......cheers.

How does this amplifier compare to the amp in the M33, is it identical?

off topic but headed to Tokyo … what listening rooms there are not-to-miss? … might also be an idea for an episode too … best

Purifi amplifiers are the truly high end amplifiers everyone should have. Everyone may not like hearing this far into the recording, but if you want to add some distortion in - just add a tube preamp.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

💯 percent

@Cujobob

Жыл бұрын

@@milosdunjic8718 nice, that’s the guy who was selling them on ASR, right? I have one already I’m fond of, I will probably wait a generation and get another.

A good album to listen to is The Mambo King soundtrack. Arturo Sandoval is in that one. Very nice.

I want to pair this amp with a Primaluna Evo 400 pre-amp with my Pylon Amber Mk2 (97dB and double 12”) The damping factor of the Nad is about 700, I think.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic

What work did you do at the recording session?

Steve, you should check out Nuprime power amps. Excellent value that flies under the radar. Nuprime is owned by the old owner of Nuforce. Many, many years of making class D amps. Nuprime makes their own power modules. No taking someone else's idea and throwing it into a chassis. They start at about $1800.

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan!

I recently picked up a pair of dirty weekends to some extent due to your very positive review. Have you tilted the speaker as you did the Zu soul? It is a short speaker. I think it probably needs the decoupling as the bass can rock my place. Finally, you really didn't share much in the way of negatives with the speaker but sort of hinted at some in this review. Any such critical thoughts now?

@gtric1466

Жыл бұрын

I got my DW's just before they stopped making them. I would guess you have the Clarity caps and the high-fi footers. Mine are 3' from the front wall to the front of the speaker and a little over 2 from the side. Equal-lateral triangle toed-in just outside my shoulders. No need to tilt them back. They sound Amazing best if heard I had JBL's, Wharfedale's and others.. There are not analytical at all but will expose any weakness in your chain. Had to give up Spotify because I stream through an iPad and the conversation from OGG to ACC which I think was the issue made the upper vocals not bright but grainy. Now streaming Apple Music and it's Bliss. Also using a HSU sub for under 80HZ.

@lsaideOK

Жыл бұрын

@@gtric1466 they stopped making them? I just got mine a couple weeks ago. Yes I got the first level upgrade and the house speaker cables. I didn't plan on getting footers until I noticed quite a bit of vibration from the speakers' bass output on certain songs. I tried SVS footers first but they didn't fit. Thinking about Herbie's now as they can glide. They have a 60-day free trial just like the speakers. I have them nine feet apart and I sit 12 ft from them. I Have them set out into the room as far as they can go. Less than 3 ft. I am still playing with the toe-in. From what you described to just straight on. I like them so far but I'm going to take my time with the full evaluation. I expect the sound will change somewhat after I get footers. I use them with vinyl, CDs, TV, and streaming with Google Chromecast. So about everything. At this point I don't think I need a subwoofer. Seems to go quite low

@gtric1466

Жыл бұрын

@@lsaideOK Awesome Enjoy yes sound will change a bit even though they burn it the woofer. I believe you have the 6 mine where the 2nd generation of the originals when they started using new drivers at that time they were 999.00 without the Clarity caps and hi go footers. All in I was at 1,500 because I had to get Ghost Black Maple WAF., 😊

@lsaideOK

Жыл бұрын

@@gtric1466 those were the days! 999! Mine was 1599 but I got the rustic hickory, the upgrade, and the house cables. So over $2,800! With footers It will approach 3000. Given the price, I think they should include the footers. In my brief listening, I think they are a necessity.

@gtric1466

Жыл бұрын

@@lsaideOK yeah I hear you got mine the summer of 2021 was the next to last run during Covid waited 4 months

Steve, I checked after this review and I have a chance to demo one, but one thing I didn't hear is if you think long listening sessions are possible? It's typical for me to burn out if there is too much information being thrown at me. Do you think 2-3 hour listening sessions would be enjoyable / engaging? I own the Accuphase A36, which is an all day, every day amp with zero fatigue. Thank you!

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

Try tube preamplifiers I think that’s where the magic will happen

@sbwlearning1372

Жыл бұрын

Agree !! Use a valve preamp with a monster class D power amp. Sounds delightful.

@jamesj9728

Жыл бұрын

@@sbwlearning1372 @Stephen Costa I have a tube pre - the Aesthetix Calypso line stage. :)

@sbwlearning1372

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesj9728 That is one gorgeous preamp. I'm a little further back in the food chain using a Doge 8 clarity

I have the NAD M33 integrated streaming amplifier which has the same Purifi amplifier in it, and wonder how using the M23 with a great DAC and preamp compares to the NAD M33 which is an integrated all in one.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

The M 23 does not convert the signal digitally like the M m33. I prefer the M 23 with a good dac and preamp.

@kencoleman5686

Жыл бұрын

@@stephencosta6814 i don’t do analogue so i want to compared to a digital source including streaming

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think you understand what I’m saying any signal coming in here becomes digital so you’re actually converting it twice

M23 have faston connectors from the power plug...you can move them with the finger which means no good connection (less deep sound stage)...once they are soldered this amp becomes a beast

I've heard there is gonna be a problem with connecting with my May DAC, how is this gonna be possible?

Interesting analysis of the bass. For my own tastes, I dislike the bloaty typical bass of Pass Labs and would probably lean to NAD M23 on that score. An excellent comparison would be this NAD M23 Class D versus the Keces S300 Class AB for almost the identical price.

To your taste (off course). Is the NAD, at ~1,5x the price of the mytek, good enough to replace it?

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

I would definitely say yes

Class D done right… Can you please get your hands on Aavik i280 or i180 and please review it? Thank you!!

2 year warranty? The shortest in the industry. What is it a sub plate amp or something?

@8.30 “ they put out as much sound from their rear end as they do from the front.” Some women have said the same thing about me.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

hello, tell me how it will be combined with pmc 5.21?

Just bought this last year, my first brand new power amp. I have been skeptical of class D and honestly when I heard the M33 I was really impressed with multiple speakers. Everything is the same with the M23 but it's even better performance. It has a touch of warmth which is odd for a class D and takes away that class D edge that some people do not like. Closest performer at twice the price was the bel canto black, which only the plastic version is that cheap/lowest priced.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

I have the same thoughts I know this would be a fantastic device

@citytianyu

Жыл бұрын

This is also my first all new amp. Really like it. Looking for a better pre now.

@chebrubin

Жыл бұрын

I know it is a cringe. But can't we use DSP to simulate that thick Class A sound with purifi Class D? Gene from Audiholics loves the NAD too.

@mikegoddard7354

Жыл бұрын

@@chebrubin My first integrated was the NAD 326BEE which is a class A/B design and is honestly a great integrated. Really it's a power amp with a volume control which is extreme bare bones and great for a purist. Avoiding a lot of interference and all that extra stuff by jamming a whole bunch of crap into a box. Honestly I feel the M23 has just the right amount of warmth, even though I would like it a touch warmer. I have never owned real class D amps, basically just those texas instru 50-100 dollar ones and when not being bad it does lack what class A/B provides. The only thing I would say is a con for some and not huge mistake or incompetence in design is that the bass is far more timid. If you have a really bass heavy speaker this is great cause it balances out. But honestly I cant fault it, it's not that bad. If class A/B were 10/10 in the bass department this would be an 8 in my eyes vs other class D which is like a 4 or less

@mikegoddard7354

Жыл бұрын

@@citytianyu I use a topping pre90, solely for equal measurements. I believe a tube amp would be great. I am about to get a tube dac soon and I am certain that will really make the sound perfect. But a tube pre amp which is probably only using the tube as a buffer stage would be perfect to add a further touch of warmth. Like I said in my eyes it's basically leaning towards the warm side and you dont want to make it too warm.

Has anyone present here by chance had the opportunity to listen to both the M23 and the M33? If so, what conclusions did they reach? His thoughts on the matter would help me a lot, thanks in advance and good afternoon

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

From what I’ve read, the M 23 is the more pure amp the M 33 converts all the signals coming in into digital. I don’t like that very much you’re basically hearing a digital audio converter dac I would definitely go for the M 23 just my Thought

@gilbertovega9981

Жыл бұрын

@@stephencosta6814 Thanks for your answer, best regards!

I view Class D to when Plasma TVs had enfolded too. Give it time this will develop into "WOW" then, audio technology moves on "OLED" then we continue this journey into Class XX? Enjoy your content Steve and I look forward to additional content.

Great review your video was very clear better than usual just thought I'd mention it . New camera? Hate the soul patch regardless still like your reviews.

Steve, don't do a spoiler before the first minute is done 🤣🤣🤣

I can't believe Steve said the price with a straight face! It looks like he almost lost it though

This thing has pretty cool styling

I’ve not been a fan of the few Class D amps I’ve heard but with anything there’s always room for improvement and that usually means it escalates out of my affordability range.

@mikecoffee100

Жыл бұрын

exactly

@sbwlearning1372

Жыл бұрын

Right now there are amp manufacturers who will provide you with a beautiful sounding class D amp around £800 for somewhere between 400/ 600 wpc Like NAD they get the boards ( icepower,hypex, purefi etc etc ) add power supplies RCA XLR ins / outs monoblock capabilities fancy output/ input buffers etc etc. But they are small operators. I drive mine with a Doge 8 clarity preamp. Hasn't been turned off in 5 years. Sounds gorgeous with analogue or digital.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

N A D 298 $2000. 90 percent of the same sound of the m 23 I would think

Mazel tov, Steve! You've discovered an actual high fidelity -- meaning "great faithfulness" to the intentions of the folks behind the recording -- component rather than something merely "high end" or, for that matter, high-priced and pleasantly euphonic to your particular, heavily conditioned -- you can take the boy out of Sound by Singer, but it's much more difficult to take the Sound by Singer out of the boy -- preferences. That said, feature set and cosmetics aside, I'm willing to bet this thing performs 95 to 99 percent identically to the dozens of other -- and very likely far cheaper -- power amps using the same Purifi modules. The best thing a Purifi OEM can do is provide an input buffer that doesn't pollute the built-in near-perfection of Bruno's work -- so congrats to NAD for apparently accomplishng that and to you for noticing truly high fidelity!

Nice review and amp but for that kind of money I still would much prefer a Parasound Halo A21.

Finally very good measuring stuff gets attention. Exactly how good measuring stuff sound like, extremly clean you can clearly hear whats inside the recording nothing is added. Meat on the bones is just noise and other kind of distortions that other stuff brings. If somebody likes that its okay I guess.

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

Жыл бұрын

We each choose our own way. You know it’s funny, when photography came in people still bought painted portraits!

@IHearEverythingDude

Жыл бұрын

@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac ye as I said, choose your poison.

Didnt know Jessie Pinkman designed amplifiers now

The Cyrus 200 class D amp is a masterpiece. Have owned for a few years. Nobody ever reviews Cyrus, shame. Great form factor and British made too.

Price in Europe?

I'm definitely digging my Rogue Audio Dragon class D-ish amp. Power for days...

Hi Steve. I love your channel. How can I contact you privately? I am a subscriber to your channel and I own a single ended triode running EL34 tubes with 35 watts per side. I am looking for a set of speakers to compliment the amp and my taste. And since you seem to love Klipsch as much as I do I was hoping you could point mein the right direction. I own a set of klipsch rp 150m bookshelves. And they thrill and move me more than my sonus Fabers and the dynaudios I had before them. The Klipsch chisel out I strumenta so well when connected to me amp. Is there something that does this (sharp imaging with air and space in between) a little better than the very affordable klipsch RP range? Cheers and keep up the good work. -Adam.

@geraldschrader8511

Жыл бұрын

Become a Patreon member at the right price level and you can have a monthly private phone call with Steve.

Needs a good tube pre amp?

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

Жыл бұрын

I'm working on that.

@AT-wl9yq

Жыл бұрын

Get the right preamp. If it happens to be tube, then that's what you should get.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac please work faster we need to know lol

Does it have maximum clarity and good harmonic structure at the same time? This is a question that I ask about every audio system. I find that when the sound is too clean, the harmonic structure of any instrument does not sound quite right.

I wonder what tubes will do with the M23? Tube phono pre? Even a tube preamp…might give that meat on the bones?

I have a NAD integrated amp and a NAD CD player I like them both.,

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

The M 23 is on a whole different level

looking at the specs, im almost positive this is just a few texas instruments TPA3255 chips, which are worth just a few dollars a piece, some nice ADC's/DAC's and good brand name capacitors.. it might sound good, but its NOT WORTH $5000, probably less than $300 worth of parts in there lol

How does this compare to the Parasound Halo A21+? It has a 5 year warranty (parts and labor), it's a conventional class AB circuit, and it's a little bit more affordable.

@klxz79

Жыл бұрын

I upgraded from a Parasound Halo A23+ to the NAD M23 and I've been loving it. I assumed that my Parasound wasn't the weak spot in my system and that the Marantz preamp was, I was pleasantly surprised when that assumption was wrong. I heard a lot more detail in the M23, much better imaging, and soundstage was much deeper.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

M23 blows this out of the water

@kingtrance307

Жыл бұрын

@@stephencosta6814 - I would think so it’s built like a tank and has much more current amperage to drive anything. Grunt and balls…

Only two years, Bryston does 20 years

@carlos2bass

Жыл бұрын

Not only that, but Bryston is designed and made in Canada.

We’ll, being retired and on a fixed income I guess I’ll have to stick with my M22. Rats🤣!!

If the world goes renewable , they may outlaw class AB amps. Class D may be in all of our futures.

@scottyo64

Жыл бұрын

Is the man going to come take my class a/b amps?

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

@@scottyo64yes 😢😢😢 😂😂😂😂

@bryanherr1093

Жыл бұрын

If the world is renewable then you can use whatever you want.

@crazyprayingmantis5596

Жыл бұрын

Nuclear is renewable

@user-ex9zm7bg3x

Жыл бұрын

what's renewable about class D?

Not quite the same but for three years I have been enjoying my NAD M22V2 Power and M12 Pre Amp with Bluos streaming; it sounds fantastic and offered great value for money over and above some bigger and more expensive Naim brands.

i had the nad c298 same purifi module and heard zero difference as far as being better than my Rotel amp. yes, I know the m23 is better built blah blah, and a better power supply, etc but I just couldn't justify going the D route...

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

That’s OK I have a big heavy Macintosh and I’m going with this also

Why stop at $4000? Might as well get a McIntosh MC451.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

I already have Macintosh and I’m still getting this one

Another nice informative review, always appreciated. I wonder if some of the impressions were from power that the reviewer is simply not used to. I thought it clever to have a case that is both silver, and black, eliminating the need to manufacture two different cases for customers desiring one or the other basic color.. As a guy with power hungry speakers I was all in, until the spec, " made in china". As a man who has always worked for his income, anyplace with the real possibility of slave labor somewhere in the production chain is not my idea of a good product. I hope the technology spreads thoughout the industry, perhaps at $3000 a pop I might get something to support manufacturing in my economy., or someplace without documented labor abuse. I am well aware of the realities of trade in today's world, The computer I am using for this replay was made in china. But when there is a reasonable alternative, I'll seek those products.

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard, I regularly review US and European made audio. Catch is it tends to be a lot more expensive.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

Can you stop with that? Made in China of BS already I don’t care if it’s freaking made on Mars the only things that matter is if it sounds good or not and obviously this sounds fantastic

Hi Steve are you going to do your system under 500 dollars and 1000 dollars ect...

Do all Nad devices sound the same?

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but the master series are different

Bridge this is not a good idea. You have to make sure your speakers do not drop below 5-6 ohm.

I don't get it, how come a 25W into 8 ohms have meat on bones and not a 200W into 8 ohms? I know bits are not bits...but are watts also not watts?

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

Жыл бұрын

I wasn't playing music so loud the Pass amp was running out of gas. Besides, meat on the bones refers to tonal quality, not volume capability.

the marantz player in this system makes all the difference.

Because this amp only has two speaker hook ups….I must reject it immediately. I run four Heresy’s .

Very good review Steve. I agree with your findings. It’s clean, transparent and fast sounding but I found that too fatigue for doing long listening sessions. It’s that meat on the bones and a lack of natural sound (IMO, it doesn't flow enough) that I am missing in the sound of the NAD. Mola Mola is doing a better job with D-class amplification (although that's another price league too...).

@delkat123

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t Bruno do the Mola Mola D class amps too?

@klaverro

Жыл бұрын

@@delkat123 Yep. Still a different interpretation and sound.

The euphoria of even Eigentakt eventually dissapears, Yes the analogy of "no meat on the bones" is fitting, there is some musicality that is lost with this technology. Personally i am not putting my music under the microscope and i don't need a "tool", i need emotion and the euphoria remains for all eternity with something like a coda continuum no.8 or a First watt j2 with the right speaker.

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

Жыл бұрын

I know what you mean, but everybody’s looking to play the audio game in different ways. This is one of them!

I'm sure I'm not the first noob to ask but... Where can I find used quality stereo equipment for a reasonable price? Most resellers I have found price their equipment at ⅔ new price which doesn't fully cover the risk of buying used. Also, a good site to learn audiophile basics.

@stephencosta6814

Жыл бұрын

Audio Mart

Selling for $6k AUD