Which would you recommend as your first?? Any tips I have missed please comment .

@1pcfred

Жыл бұрын

5 is my favorite but I'd still recommend getting a 4 first.

@Exiledk

11 ай бұрын

Save up.. buy a Clifton no.5 Thank me later.

I wish some of your videos were out when I started woodworking! So much easier and clearer than others out there.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Oli. Thank you so much. My main reason to make these was the pain that I went through. Let's hope that there is someone out there that is helped. Thank you for watching

Veritas tools are expensive, but well worth the extra cost - at least in my mind. I struggled with an old Stanley #4 and had just about given up on planes when my wife gave me a budget of $300 for a gift for my 60th birthday. I used that generous budget to get a Veritas Low-Angle Jack Plane and what a difference it made! Instead of frustration, I had real results. I still struggle a bit with getting great results with the Stanley #4, but the Jack is wonderful to use for both planning and shooting. Next target: Veritas Router Plane... ;)

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

I have two say that I really love my vintage planes but when I hold and use a new one after a while whit it feels so much smoother. Less errors and so forgiving.

A detailed and personal discussion and demonstration about selecting a hand plane for best efficiency. Appreciated the video. Thanks

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

Thank you

0:17 the way your head slides into the panel behind you gives you a little monk haircut

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

I can't unsee that now lol., Thank you. I knew I should have made a square sign.

I‘ve seen all KZread videos from Rob, Matt and Paul (guess you know them) but I must confess that I like yours the most. Why? You don‘t speak as fast as Matt, you aren’t not that sophisticated like Rob and you don‘t stick on tradition to the max like Paul. Nevertheless you described my path to handplanes. Buying the cheapest throw it into the bin. Buying a somewhat more expensive one (Stanley Handyman no. 4) and did not reach a level of consciousness to get on a good path. Then I found the Sweetheart 62 on Amazon and this one caught my sole. Handplaning started to be something like contemplation. I struggled some time to find my way of sharpening. I bought a second sweetheart (no. 4), what a finish! Now I have some more specialists a blockplane, a router plane and I converted a 78 to a scrub plane (special thanks to Paul, great idea!) and a few weeks ago I shot a second sweetheart 62. I use both one with an angle around 25 deg and one for the more strange grain wood withe an angle around 35 deg with narrow mouth. If I would have the money AND the opportunity I would try a Lee Nielson (the Holy Grail) but I‘m totally fine with the sweethearts, great planes! And for the last time, great video! I‘ll watch all of your videos! I‘m not a native English speaker so excuse my English.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Manfred. Wow, what a lovely comment. I know exactly who you mean and each one of them is far moire talented at woodworking than I will probably ever reach but I am having fun learning. You are right, you have had an identical path with planes to mine. Like, exactly. I even converted a scrub plane after watching Paul do his. I am also very tempted by a really nice veritas or Lee Nielson but for now I think that I am at a stage where I am really enjoying planing with what I have. I am a firm believer that a lot of what we do is very much based on confidence and hand planes can ruin your confidence as quickly as grow it. I hope that people who watch this keep trying. Thank you again and when you watch some of my videos I apologise that for a non native speaker the music will be way to load and in some I was really learning the filming aspect. They will improve from here as I have finally figured out what style I hope to go with. Anyway, finally your English is great. Thank you for commenting and for watching.

Interesting placement on you scale… as a woodworker who makes a living from their tools, i couldn’t eat with purely hand tools, that said much of the work can’t be done with power tools anyway, so for planes, i have no.3, several no 4’s set up for scrubbing, smoothing or finishing , a 51/2 a couple of block planes, and a whole bunch of shoulder and bullnose planes for shaping and detailing. My favourite plane is an old wooden marples - that out shines all the others.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi BrainFizz. thank you for your comment. Hand tools are tricky to use solely. I too have adjusted one of my 4 s to be a scrub plane. Very satisfying. I do need a decent Block plane. My amazon basics one is an embarrassment. I have a wooden plane that I restored and nothing feels as good to use as it. Amazing.

My early experience and advice, buy an old Stanley 4 or 41/2 that is complete and isn’t cracked, or chipped and not a ball of rust, do your research on how it works, strip, clean and lubricate everything . Make it look the best you can and learn to sharpen .!!! and hone ..!!! (blades, planes, chisels, knive s it’s all very therapeutic once you master it ) Wax the soul plate constantly - you will learn to love all of it’s little quirks and idiosyncrasies, the things that make it your plane.. power tools do a job and can be very accurate, but I love all of my old hand tools, there’s just something about the crisp shearing of gossamer thin ribbons of wood that gives you an enormous feeling of well being……plus there’s very little need for dust collection and ear muffs with most hand tools..🎵🎶🎵🎶

@startmaking1

10 ай бұрын

Hi Ian. All accurate points. and you are describing my journey. The only reason I suggested the sweetheart is the confidence and not losing people to giving up. And I am glad you also appreciate the feel and sound of these tools. No better therapy.

Thank you for this video. Im a newbie and the info you’ve included in this video is so helpful. I actually learned about something I need to correct, so that’s awesome.

@startmaking1

3 ай бұрын

Thats great news. Thank you for watching.

How many planes do you need? Well, it depends on what you are going to be doing. I have 20+, and will be getting more> I am all set on lathe tools, but just getting back into flat work. I would suggest that anyone who is going to attempt to learn to use the traditional hand planes should start with an old 'restorable' plane. You have to take it totally apart and then put it back together so that it works again. This will give you a good sense of how the tool works, and is indispensable for learning. I want some wood planes. Did pick up one old jointer's plane, and was able to get it to cut again, but I might have to do major modifications to make it fully functional, or build one from scratch.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Lots and lots, sorry I just read the first question. That may be because I am a little addicted, rather than necessity. You would not believe it but when I realised my first 5 videos around a year ago, one of them was titled something like ' the perfect first hand plane' . I basically made a video agreeing with exactly what you say, a Stanley no 4 or no 5 bought in terrible shape and refurbished is the best way to start. For all of the reasons you say. However, since then I have realised that confidence and continuation in woodworking were not taking into account. I liked the challenge of getting the old plane to work and fought through a lot of the frustration but I can also see that being enough for people to give up on hand tools entirely. That lead me to the realisation that maybe the modern plane would be better first and while gaining confidence as it is easier to tune, then a beginner can figure out a vintage one. I only have one modern plane and I do love it, but now I can use them better, I always reach for my vintage ones. As an aside, there is a video about a wooden plane I picked up and restored, super easy and man does it cut.

Great tips. Once your plane is set up correctly, it is easy to get into a Zen-like state of peace and tranquility 😊

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

IT is the best form of meditation and really good exercise I find.

Cheers mate glad I waited to buy one. Really help full. Going to order one tonight

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Steve. Best of luck. I can't wait to hear how you get on. Plenty of groups on Facebook for help but don't hesitate to ask any questions. You never know, I may even have an answer. (though Facebook is where the experts are, for better or worse)

I made a low angle bevel wooden number 5 with Veritas hardware kit. It is vastly superior to all my other bevel down planes. Half the price of the sweethart in the video. Spot on video.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Oh that sounds brilliant. I love my wooden plane. A low angle one would be so fun. Thank you for the inspiration

Some really good advice. Lots of useful things for someone moving from post tools to hand tools. Thanks 👍

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I hope it helps.

Love my Stanley number 5

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

Agreed. Such a good all rounder.

Good information Mark! I have a collection of 6 or 8 planes. Someday I have sit down & learn to use them more often. I have my dad's #4, I bought a Record #7, someone gave me a couple #78 Rabbet planes, a small router plane, & a couple block planes. The #4 I got my hands on as a kid & just made shavings, so it was probably my first. Being able to hand plane stock well is a useful talent many woodworkers don't realize. I don't claim to be an expert. I recently turned 75 & don.t ever expect to be. Keep up the good videos.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Bill. You are right. I also never expect that I will be an expert. Not to the levels of Paul Sellers, Rob Cosman or any of the others. But it is such a. good feeling just making the shavings. As you saw in the video, I have the Stanley rabbit planes and whatever the complicated one is, 55 I think. I have no clue how to use them properly but I love their feel, history and so on. Thank you for watching again. and for commenting.

Great video! In my particular case, my biggest blocker isn’t/wasn’t the plane itself - it is the clamping of the wood. I had a hard time figuring out how to “hold” the wood in place. And once I actually got it to hold, then the table I was using wouldn’t sit still as I actually planed across the wood. I’d be interested in your thoughts around how to stabilize a table for hobbyist planing (some of us don’t have the space for a heavy-ish, walk-around bench in the middle of our work area) and then some thoughts on various clamping jigs for edge grain, single board face planing, and planing across glue ups that might be a 2 or more feet wide. Love your style and I think you really hit a sweet spot with this content. You’ve obviously got skills but your presentation to the layman is so straightforward - makes woodworking nicely approachable for those of us not in it 9-5.

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

Oh yes. I totally understand your issue. There are a number of ways to try and fix the issue of fixing the wood down. Though, I have to say I am not the expert here. Let's start with the clamping. I have a number of ways depending on the size of the wood. The easiest if it is just a quick surface plane is to clamp a strip of 5mm ply across the bench, one side to the other, and then butt the board to be planed against it and plane towards it. this is not 100% perfect but will get the job done. If I am planing something for a long time, ie taking a large amount of the area of the wood and it is a large piece, I double sided tape it to the bench. This may work for your glue ups. I have seen some people screw a piece of scrap wood into the side of their Bench so it is sticking up just enough to place against but not so much that your plane catches it. You could also make a jig to do this, ie adjustable height. A long board, I clamp one end and plane away from it. Not perfect but works in a pinch. And then there is always my moxon vice that is perfect for a lot of the edge work. Now for your bench. This was an issue and in some ways still is for me as I dont have an easily accessible heavy bench. For a long time I actually screwed the bench into the floor of my shed and used a shelf bracket to attach it to the wall. There is nothing worse for your planing results than a bench that racks as you plane. My saw horses, where I sometimes attach my moxon vice to plane, have a chunk of wood screwed to the bottom of the leg so I can stand one foot on it to keep it still while I plane, you could try this on your bench but it would affect your stance. In truth I dont have a prefect solution for this issue as I still have it. But worst case, I wonder if attaching some longer boards to the bottom of the legs would give it more stability , basically mimicking the span of a larger bench. I hope you manage to solve at least a few of the clamping issues.

@FuzzyBearings

11 ай бұрын

@@startmaking1 ty for the taking the time!

So much great advice here! Rex Kreuger has done a video of super tuning one of those appalling 'high street' planes, he did manage to get some acceptable results, but it took a lot longer of time and effort. He reached the same 'Just bin it!" conclusion that you did. Very astute observation that using a really good plane gives a feel for how they should work. I started with my Grandad's No 4, which had already suffered at my own hands when I was a kid. Initially it was utterly awful to use, about as sharp as a mallet, choked with 40 year old shavings, covered in light rust, and of course I was trying to take huge deep cuts. It just wouldn't cut!! After a while I learned how to put a half decent edge on it and to take lighter cuts, at which point I thought 'Ah, that's what a good plane feels like'!'. After more time I learned how to get a good edge, and to maintain that edge more frequently, and how to dress the chip breaker to avoid clogs. Much better results, and I thought Ah, that's what a good plane feels like, Then I had a lucky find with a 2nd hand Tormek, which enabled me to correctly regrind the blade and consistently achieve a truly sharp edge. At the same time I'd practiced renovating many other really badly neglected planes (the worse the state they're in, the more I'm inclined to buy them cheap so I can save them) during which I'd encountered, diagnosed and fixed all kinds of issues, all of which added to my understanding and confidence. It's taken a few years, but I think I'm reaching the point where I do finally know what a really good plane feels like. Had I been able to buy a new high-end plane on day one, I would've understood just how poor my antique plane were, and could've skipped a lot of 'It must be me being useless!" frustrations. One cautionary, tip re the Stanley 78 rebate plane, try to get in the habit of always picking it up by the handle. I've developped a bad habit of just grabbibg it, which is fine when the side fence is covering the protruding corner of the blade, but when using it with the side fence removed, that razor sharp protruding corner can cause a really nasty cut, I've made that dumb mistake more times than I want to admit to... and it bloody hurts! Re butchering off large amounts of wood fast, Paul Sellars did a vid on converting a 78 into a scrub plane, which was the tradition ' no finesse' bulldozer of the hand plane family. For really aggressive stock removal, the carpenter's axe was used for rough prep.

@startmaking1

10 ай бұрын

Sounds like we went on very similar journeys at the start. I suspect there are a lot of people who have. A Tormek looks like it would really help the sharpening process. Especially regrinding old irons. I am a sucker for an old plane. I can't see them sat rusting away. Just bid on 3 Stanleys at an auction and even though I dont need them, if the price is right, I will take them and fix them up. I actually watched Paul Sellers Scrub plane video and have a 41/2 set aside for the conversion. Fun plane to have .

one disadvantage, in my opinion, of the low angle jack plane is that it isn't very good on a shooting board.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

I found this too. I tried and tried but the sides are not perfectly square with the sole and there is so little to hold on to

Hi I like your video thank you. I’ve seen many videos critical of thin blades, what we forget is the thin blade replaced the thicker blade Well over 100years ago in the days when most woodworkers used hand tools all the time. So what we suggesting for the past 150 or so years those woodworkers had it wrong. I like your videos and your presentation sorry if I’m critical thank you again for all your efforts. Cheers

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi G G. Please don't apologise. All criticism helps learning and I am definitely learning here. I don't mind the thin blades all that much, in fact I actually got my Stanley no 4 out today, the vintage one with the thin blade and it easily out performed the thicker bladed Stanley sweet heart. I just feel the thicker blade may be more forgiving for a beginner. That said we all have such different experiences and talents. Makes it interesting. thank you for watching and for your well thought out comment. Much appreciated.

@GG-go1xh

Жыл бұрын

@@startmaking1 I’m an old man and hate being negative you put a lot of work in and I enjoy the journey you’re on. One day I’d love a coffee and a chat

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

@@GG-go1xh Thanks G G . To be honest, I haven't found anything you have written negative. Constructive, yes. It is a lot of work, especially the editing. That bit I really don't enjoy but the people genuinely make it work while. Are you UK based, or US. Seems I get a 50/50 split.

Thank you!!! very useful！！

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi George. You are very welcome. Glad it. could help.

Great tips

@startmaking1

10 ай бұрын

Thank you

I don't care how bad a plane is you can always make a scrub plane out of it. Using a scrub plane is revelation. Put a radical camber on that iron and have fun!

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Scrub plane on pine, no better feeling. I totally agree. But not the worst one that I first got with the awful iron and double adjustment knobs. I use an old 4 1/2 .

Yet another excellent, informative video. I have an extensive collection of assorted planes, including wooden ones, that I have bought over the past few years with the intention of cleaning/renovating them. I must admit that although I have all these tools their role in life is to sit on display and look good. I very rarely use them (I can hear the cries of "Shame".) My woodworking projects are rare as I concentrate on repairs and restorations. When I do need to use a plane I go to my DeWalt cordless one ("Gasp!) which serves my purpose. OK, I admit I am nearer the top of your scale, but each to his own. Keep the good vids coming.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi COsta. Thank you as always. Very kind. I knew you, like me would have some decorative planes. I can't get enough. I would have them around the house if I was allowed. Love the look of them. It's not a bad thing to be a power tool worker. Certainly easier on the arms. I dream of jointing wood without having to butcher it with a plane. Some day,

Hi, Mark, great information. Thank you. About 40 years a go, I inherited a few Stanley planes, from my grandfather, a No 4, a No 5 and a block plane. I have used the block the most (for small needs) and the other two just a few times. Although, I did clean them up when I got them. They had laid round for a while. But it is nice, to now know what I have and their uses. Never heard that before. Maybe, this can lead me to use them more often. ✌

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Zapa1pnt. Great to hear from you again. Thank you. The number 5 Stanley is your best, honestly. I have a block plane and reach for my larger ones so often even for chamfering and such as the block plane gets worse results. Though you can use it with one hand which is very helpful. That said, some people don't need planes as much as others, I use mine to dimension wood a lot as I don't have as many power tools. I also feel like a better wood worker than I am when I use a well sharpened plane. though, I also feel like it is day one again when I haven't gotten the sharpening right. Part of the fun I guess. Thank you for watching all the videos you do. Much appreciated.

@zapa1pnt

Жыл бұрын

@@startmaking1: Yep, having a good tool in your hand will always boost your ego. 😁🖖

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

@@zapa1pnt lol. Very true

I am so glad I found your channel! You seem to have experienced some of the same issues and problems that I’ve experienced! Thank you so much for sharing. I bought a vintage plane. It was the #5, but I’ve never gotten it to plane anything! I think I need to learn more about how to sharpen it and exactly how to set it up! I’m sort of inclined to get a jointer! Lol. Please! Keep banging on about sharpening! I’m checking out your sharpening video next!

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Andie. Sharpening is at least 70% of the success rate. If that makes sense. It is so much harder on a vintage plane and almost impossible in my experience to master it free hand from the get go. I went full circle and eventually came back to the honing guide. Feels like a beginners crutch but honestly if you want to feel like a superhero holding a plane, it is the way to go. Please don't hesitate to email me or comment if you have any questions. If I can't help, I am sure I have binged watched someone who can.

Me hubiera venido bien verlo hace varios años. Muy bueno !!

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

I understand. Thank.you.

I’ve got 2 #4’s 1 of which I turned into a scrub plane, Stanley #6 ,combination plane ,snub nose duplex, block plane ,spokeshave ,a router plane made by me out of oak,and a selection of wooden planes.Even ended up with 3 spill planes.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

And now you have one jealous video maker wanting to increase his plane collection. Thank you for sharing.

Hand planes fill me with dread. I can get a sharp edge on the blade but I never seem to set them up right. You talked about the anatomy of a plane and taking them apart and putting them back together again. I can do this but I’m really just assembling parts in the reverse order of how I took them apart. I don’t understand what each really do and how to use them. (Like that lever that moves left to right or where the blade should be mounted on that secondary flat thingy that goes on top of it. See what I mean?). It would be great if you did a video that goes into a little more detail on what each thing does and when to use it. With some slick editing, I’m sure you could do something of great value to us bodgers in a 5 min vid. (He says, hopefully).

@startmaking1

10 ай бұрын

That is a good idea for a video and one that I have wanted to do for a while. A kind of how to set up a hand plane, the basics. I will have a think If I can slot it into the planned schedule. thank you

Until I got a Veritas block plane ( the premium DX model) I never realised the difference. It's the build quality, the steels used I the iron, the fidelity of the adjusters. It's a shame there are so few woodworking clubs for people to test different planes to feel the difference and see what works for them and talk to other woodworkers. I now have a Lie Neilsen low angle Jack and that could be my one and only plane. But I think you have to start with a cheaper plane to learn how to use it properly. I previously used a WoodRiver LA jack and while a decent plane it was a mile off the LN.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

OOO I am jealous of your Block plane. Mine is an amazon one and it is pretty poor. Does a job but not a great one. A decent one will be my next new plane purchase. You are right about the clubs. I would love to be able to test out tools and talk to more experienced woodworkers.

Excellent video! I still use my grandfather's No. 4. He had a knock-off No. 4 also; I ordered a new iron from Veritas, all the difference in the world. I do take issue your statement that a No. 5 will make you a better woodworker than the No. 4. Later on, you do say that once you have confidence you will get better with time and use. No truer words were ever spoken. Hand planing is very satisfying, once you get it down. Onto spokeshaves, eh?

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

I have my grandfathers Woden 4 1/2. I cannot get it to work like I want it to. Would be a lovely tool. I think that buying a new iron may be the solution. The no5 making you a better woodworker is really only my experience. I find that the 4 is less versatile than the 5 and when I got the 5 it just all felt a little easier. Hard to quantify but for sure I would not expect everyone to agree. Practise of use and sharpening are the only real solution but you can shorten the distance to success with the best choices in my opinion. There is no better job in woodwork. Are you UK based or US. Purely curiosity. Thank you for taking a look at a few more videos. And for commenting. Very much appreciated.

@themeat5053

Жыл бұрын

@@startmaking1 I live in the Northeast U.S. and I like to do business with Lee Valley/Veritas out of Canada. I find their wood working tools to be first quality. You might look into their replacement iron for your 4 1/2. The iron is thicker (.1") than the original Stanly iron. They told me some folks need to widen the mouth of the plane to accommodate this difference; but, it fit mine like they were made together. It's not the cheapest, but it is a way to save a beloved piece that has sentimental, as well as, practical use. They do make them out of different grades of steel. Including: A2, O1 and PMV-11 (this is milled to their own specifications). I ordered a PMV-11 because of the hardness of the steel. A little bit more work to sharpen, but holds a fine edge. As as you note that as long as you hone them before you think they need them, they'll be sharp.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

@@themeat5053 Wow, so much information., Thank you. I will take a look to see if I can get the iron in the UK. Probably can but at what cost. I love sentimental tools, probably more than I should .

Really good video. I started with a Vintage #4. Then a Vintage #5. Then a new 5-1/2. I had no idea how much more I'd get out of a newer plane! The vintages ones are cool, but the newer ones are just better users (assuming you get a good brand). You can bridge the price gap between new and vintage by putting a new blade on an old plane. BUT, if I had to do it again, I'd get a new 5-1/2, 4, and block plane. And that's it. Those 3 do everything I need. I'd leave vintage to the collectors, with perhaps the exception of a block plane, which is just all about the blade. Woodriver is a good brand that's more cost effective than Lie Nielsen and Veritas, but better, I think, than Stanley. Keep up the good work on the videos!

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Blayne. Thank you for commenting. That sounds very much like my journey. I agree that If I could do it again a new plane, long sole a new one shorter and a block would be ideal. My block plane is awful, probably why I undervalue it. If I was in the US I would definitely try wood river. Thank you for watching

@justinsane332

Жыл бұрын

wood river isnt great. the q.c. is way off...just buy one good 5, like a veritas or nielsen and it will do almost anything you need. better, yet takes more skill to joint with is a 4, but with an adjustable mouth so you can use a roughing blade then a finishing blade. the veritas makes doing this super easy for a newbie. ive done the full restore, woodriver and then the top brands. if i did it again, id do it all the same except id bever buy a woodriver plane, and id be a lot happier. (i literally hate even having to use it as my 'beater')

Low angle is supposed to be better for end grain and tricky spaulted timber great video ❤

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

I heard that but in truth I can't tell a lot of difference. Only thing is, my low angle has a super easy to adjust.mouth so I can close it right down for tricky grain. Others are harder to adjust. I have to say though, when the going gets too tough, I reach for my card scraper. thank you for commenting and for watching.

Just watched your video and the production is great however, a few points about a plane, the part you refer to as a chip breaker is nothing of the sort you will only find them on thickness planers not hand planes, they are called cap irons. Now I know that this will cause arguments over the name, but this is North Americans that use this term and younger UK woodworkers that have seen KZreadrs refer to it as that. Very much like clamps V cramps, they again in the UK were only called cramps as marketed by Record tools. I guess ultimately you can call them what you want and it does not really matter as long as you can set up and use a plane. With regards to low angle jack planes V a normal bevel down jacket plane, I purchased one to compare and I am afraid it is marketing as there is no benefit from spending the sort of money that Lie Nielsen, Veritas charge for these planes, probably why Stanley who made the first no 62, years ago then discontinued it brought it back as they thought they were missing out. There is nothing that these bevel up planes can do that I can't do just as well or better with my old Stanley's or Record's. The chatter is a myth, I think I can safely say after 40 plus years I have never suffered that 'problem' and believe me I have planed a lot of hard woods. I even tried a thicker blade, again no advantage. Not looking to cause arguments but giving my honest opinion. I do agree buy a no 5 jack plane first as it is as the name suggests a Jack of all trades.😉

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Gary, Thank you for the comment. This is in no way an argument as it sounds like you are very experienced in woodworking. I was under the impression that the part with the lever and the Stanley logo was the lever cap, the metal part that attaches to the iron is called the cap iron or more commonly the chip breaker. To be honest I took that from Rob Cosman, I believe. Figure he knows more than I ever will. I think I also said that there are very little benefits in the make up of the low angle vs the Stanley 5 except the quality brought in by newer machining etc and the iron of course. apart from that they are, as you say, very similar. I disagree that they can't do anything better, the iron is far easier to get an edge on and keep the edge on and this is what makes it the perfect beginner plane which in the end of the day was the main reason for the video. I think that for a beginner anything that can make planing easier and more successful, even if it comes at a slightly higher cost, has to be considered. My aim of the videos I produce is to try and help others avoid pitfalls that I have encountered. I always say that I am not an expert and love getting so much detail from the more experienced people in the field such as yourself. Thank you very much, Very much appreciated.

Best names ever :)

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi O G . Thank you, I had forgotten about that. Still not sure of all the correct names to be honest.

Acorn (No 3) for £ 3 off a secon hand stall late 1980's electric plane 2007. btw use a candle all over your hand saws both sides-easier cutting and preserves the sharpnes. (also Sapele is pronounced sa-pee-lee not sappelle)

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Mickey. I see a lot of the Acorn planes at the vintage tool shops. Get tempted but then I have no real experience with their quality. Great tip for the hand saws. And I was hoping someone would correct me on the Sapele pronunciation. I was never quite sure that I had it right. Thank you

@16:31 hmmm are you rocking the plane nose down?

@startmaking1

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Hi Bruce. Great spot. I hadn't noticed. I don't know if you can see but where I have the moxon vice the threaded rods are way too long and I can't actually stand in perfect place. This leads me to over reach. and hence tip the nose. though I hadn't seen it until you point it out. Eagle eyed for sure. Thank you as always for watching

Great video again mark. Honestly I have a hand plane no idea what it is brand or number?🤔 Granted I've used it since a had m8 mind set it and sharpen it properly for me but I've no idea if I'll need another one or not. I do however have a grandfather whose wanting me yet whole load tools off him so I'll bare u in mind if I come across anything nice looking can send it down. I could use block plane for edge details but u no what am doing. Ps check ur emails went into detail from last conversation. Oh and beeswax works great on the base them aswell. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@startmaking1

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Hi Michael. Just spotted the email. Sorry. Sharpening is so vital on the planes. It took me ages and once it clicked I now wonder why it took so long. But it did and it was a pain in the butt. TO be honest on a lot of what you have shown me you don't need a plane as much as others and it has definitely not held you back. You create some lovely stuff without one. Beeswax is a great tip too. The 3 in 1 makes my shed stink and the candles are a little hard, will give it a shot

@michaelwillson6847

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@@startmaking1 your fine a no your busy. Yea a must say when a got mine was a mess think it's newer but not brand new if that's makes sense. I'll check it out and get back u. No a must say I've only needed it a handful of times with what am doing. Yea good friend mine who is a cabinet and furniture maker told me about that. Works on saw tables thicknesser tables it also helps prevent the rust u touched on. And yes smells wicked. Have a look for a box stone it's a 4 sided rectangle goes round 4 different grits think it's specifically for chisels I used use it on chefs knives and made them like razors and having been professional chef for 15 years built up collection and they needed be like razors all the time and didn't take allot bring them back. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@startmaking1

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@@michaelwillson6847 I will have to look up a box stone. Wow 15 years as a chef. I couldn't manage 15 mins, so stressful, I guess it is different if you re good at it.

@michaelwillson6847

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@@startmaking1 yea they make them wicked sharp. No a must say it's not for everyone takes certian kinda dafty to be able to do it. Dunno if was good at it but managed do it for while got to points were was running kitchens and brigade of guys 10-20 years older than me serving anything from 40-250 a day. But the hours killed me.

#1-Veritas low angle jack... wish I'd just spent the money and started here. #2-A good block plane. #3-I find myself using a fairly recently acquired Veritas small smoother more than my old #4 smoothers.

@startmaking1

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Hi Skip. Sorry, I missed this comment. Veritas make a lovely low angle jack plane. Money no object, that would be my first one for sure. I really need to upgrade my amazon block plane, does more damage than good most of the time. Not seen the small smoother. To be totally honest I am yet to get a smoothing plane to work as well as I would want. Would be lovely to be able to get a finish without sanding. Time and practise I guess.