Thank you so much for watching!! Please leave me a comment letting me know what you thought. I would be very grateful if you could like and subscribe too as that helps the channel enormously. Thank you again.

Nice to see a everyday person doing with everyday tools.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Glenn. I do aspire to getting more tools soon though. But I want to earn them and be ready for them

A very good demonstration to show the French cleat system and the advantages for organised storage. Thanks

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

A fun system to let your imagination run wild with for sure.

cool use of the french cleat

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Olivia. Thank you. Much appreciated. And thank you for watching.

Thank you for sharing your useful ideas on this Important subject of shop storage.

@startmaking1

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Just watched this, been trying to figure out in my head for ages how it's done and your video was that "moment of clarity" lightbulb switching on 👍 great video, easy to follow, shall do similar myself very soon!

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

hi Stuart. Thats briliant. I am glad I could help. Ping me an email if you have any other questions. Or comment.

As far as the little ones possibly falling off the cleat, attach a block to the bottom and push in a little wedge to keep the holder pushed down into the cleat

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi,. Thank you for the comment. I will adjust and am very grateful for any advice I can get. Thank you for watching.

Great video. I already have French cleats but am thinking of redoing then as i saw a tip on another channel about putting (wooden) biscuits between the wall and the first. This both allows dust to fall down and not have a mother's meeting in the cleat and can also be used to"lock" the hanger in place by adding a biscuit to catch the bottom of the cleat. Hopefully this makes sense 😊

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

Yes. I saw Scott walsh do.this. interesting idea. Though, I used a blower to clean my shed out and so never had dust build up issues. Though I think because j film, I clean more often than most.

Its a long time since I did woodworking or DIY, but all I used was nails or dowels and drew a line around the tool so I knew whuch tool went where.

@startmaking1

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I have to say that is the easiest way. But this is fun. And good practise.

Just in the process of making my first French cleat wall. Thanks for all the tips. Really useful. Hopefully my workshop will soon be as tidy as yours. I really appreciate the videos, which I first discovered about a week ago, and I'm busy making my way through them all. Great work. I'd say Start Making (Woodworking) is my favourite UK woodworking site.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi James. Thank you for watching, and commenting. I love the French cleat system, mine is far from perfect though. I promise you, if my shop was not for filming too it would look like a whirlwind had been through. Not my best strength, tidying. Wow, just read the last comment. That is high praise and I am so very grateful. Please feel free to reach out as much as you want/need, I am clearly no expert but I do like the conversations and tips I get from everyone.

CA glue is marvelous stuff, but here with activator, it is wildly expensive. I guess because I'm old, I tend to be able to wait for the wood glue to dry after clamping. Be careful using your forstner bits to drill through, it's not their intended purpose, so they could require more frequent sharpening (imo); but who knows? Nice looking project. I gave up on the cleated wall in favor of making more customized units and because of the humidity level where I live, I'm better off leaving my hand tools in drawers in my work bench with desiccant packages. I did make drawer inserts to keep stuff organized. Thumbs way up, Mark!!

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Good tip with the forstner bits. To be honest I got this set in a blind auction lot and treat them as if they are free. Shouldn't really, they are probably pricier than ones I would replace them with. CA glue is pricey here too if you go for the good stuff. My issue is that I am making most things for videos and in the limited time I have off from family and work. I would really enjoy it a fair amount more if I didn't rush though. You are right. I like the idea of draws and that will be a project this year for sure. My planes got a little rusty this winter for the first time and I didn't like that. I have to be a little careful as I plan eventually to build a bigger workshop and whatever I make from here on out needs to be good enough to move from the shed into the shop. Im not sure if cleats are the best way but I love the challenge of making the tool holders. Thank you for your continued input and support. I genuinely appreciate it.

I need that sandpaper rack!

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Its a great improvement. Easy build too. I have a video but sadly it has slipped down the planned uploads as it is less interesting at the moment. Worth making one though imo. Thank you for all the views and comments.

In the you tube 23:57 23:57 world of sponsored makers - with Big money showroom style workshops it’s nice to see some real hobby content where you make use of what you have.! Don’t go too big on the new shed otherwise you may loose a part of your real world charm.👍

@startmaking1

10 ай бұрын

Hi Ian. It's funny how sometimes in this community people read my mind. I was considering going for the works as far as tools in the new workshop and then I had a nice conversation with another maker. Small channel like myself and he gave me the lightbulb moment that I needed. I started as a beginner and have documented the journey. And now as a low intermediate woodworker it is time for a few power tools. So I decided that a table saw is a must. Not a sawstop or some massive cabinet saw but a job site saw sunk into a table. Hard work to build around it but absolutely where I am as a woodworker. When the time is right and my skills improve I can add tools like any other woodworker would., That is what I set out to do and despite a few tempting sponsors such as the laser, I will follow my plan. The laser is a side hustle in case you are worried. Thank you for helping and for taking an interest in an anonymous space. Much appreciated.

@ianmurray3820

10 ай бұрын

Hey don’t hold back on my account a table saw is a great piece of kit but beyond most of us, but here’s a suggestion, most sire saw’s use a horrendously loud brushed universal motor, I bought a used Electrabekum. metabo table site saw For £100.( Which is a big tinny self assembly job ) but has a silky smooth and quiet induction motor, I bought it with the intention of building the internals into a bespoke cabinet - fence, dust collection-etc, I’ve never seen it done but a well done conversion would open up a quality smooth quiet table saw option to a lot of people.!?? Gauntlet thrown down..!!!😁💪🏻💪🏻😂

@ianmurray3820

10 ай бұрын

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@startmaking1

10 ай бұрын

Wow,. great idea. Im not sire I am the guy to pick that gauntlet up but what a brilliant idea.

@startmaking1

10 ай бұрын

what a great price too.

Hi Mark, here is some information about your “forsner bits”. They are actually Forstner bits invented by Benjamin Forstner. The Forstner bit was "patented on September 22, 1874, [and] was to make him a rich man. Without the lead screw (which Forstner called the "gimlet-point") and cutting lips of more conventional wood boring bits it would prove especially useful to gunsmiths like himself and other high-end woodworkers. The bit was unsurpassed in drilling an exceedingly smooth-sided hole with a flat bottom. It was better than the Russell Jennings twist bits for boring at an angle and not following the grain of the wood. Forstner bits are unique in their ability to drill overlapping holes, notches on the edges of a workpiece, and angled holes on the face of a workpiece (pocket holes, for example). The bit will cut whether or not the center spur is engaging the workpiece. This feature is unique to the Forstner bit.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Swig, Thank you for watching and commenting. What a great amount of info. Interesting reading, thank you.

Hi Mark, new subscriber, love your style - I've been inspired! Small request/observation (and absolutely not a criticism!) - the background music is quite loud and I don't always catch everything you say! 🙂

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Oliver. Thank you for your comment. Very useful to hear. I have just checked back. You are absolutely correct. This was a fairly early video in what is a relatively short journey so far. I think that I have the editing down a little better now and for the future. I don't think that at this stage I can change this one but going forwards it should be resolved. Thank you so much for letting me know, I had no idea. And thank you for subscribing despite the glitch.

my new shed is absolutely stuffed to tthe gills with stuff and clutter- so good ideas here.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

even if you can just clear a bit of the floor it makes a huge difference.

Mark! Just discovered your channel. I am a wood worker as well and I decided to do French cleat system. I've watched just about every FC video out there and became more frustrated as I watched them. Sure, they have GREAT things they do to make things to put their tools in, however, it still left me struggling. You have broken it down to the very basics so that I could understand. I like how you take individual tools (levels) and make singular holders that are very basic and not complicated. Then you take the Forstner's and create a very basic holder for them. Now, I'm sure you will get more elaborate, but watching you work creating basic designs has cleared my frustration. It's taken the mystery out of it. Thank you so much. I decided to subscribe because I'm sure you will have more useful videos in the future.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Jeff. What a lovely comment. I definitely tried to keep it simple, in my lane if you like. It still serves it's purpose and doesn't take days to make. Thank you so much for watching, commenting and subscribing. Very much appreciated. There are a couple of stand alone videos in the works for the sandpaper rack and scrapper holder, both super easy but to be honest I'm sure you could do it just from the back drop to the video you watched, they are already there. Good luck and feel free to ask any questions. Mark

Great way of getting maximum use out of minimal space. Just gave me a great idea of how to organize my shop as I am setting it up. 👍

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Lee. They really are. and I find it really fun and challenging coming up with solutions for different tools. there is also a great French cleat Facebook group. thank you for commenting and for watching and good luck with the shop set up

Brilliant video. I'm building a larger workshop from scratch (nearly done) . And this video will be helpful. Keep it up 👍

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi peter. Thank you. How have you found the build. Is it your first time or have you done something like this before. I bet it is satisfying seeing it come together

Hi Mark, the French cleats look so precise and easy t o do. I need to make some. Tony

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Tony. Thank you for commenting. Hope the music was not too annoying. It is a really simple system to install. And fun in a way, designing the holders. You can make them easy and rough like mine or spend a long time making them attractive.

am building a work / craft business shop, i have been planning on putting in a french cleat system when i get the walls finished (only insulating right now). the only thing i saw was you may Magnetize your your files that would be ok if you only use them for wood but i will have some metal ones for my farm side of the shop something to think of. love your little shop Have FUN from OKlahoma

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi FR Rapp. Thank you for watching and commenting. You re right about then magnets. Fortunately at the moment it is only wood but something I will have to consider in the future for sure. good luck with your shop.

@frrapp2366

Жыл бұрын

@@startmaking1 Will do thanks for the reply

New to your channel. Love it! Interesting & informative.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Kevin. Thank you so much. Great that you found me. Welcome to comment on any video or in the community tab. There is a great bunch that is steadily growing. Thank you for watching.

Great video, showing a number of different types of holders etc. Also good that you show that you don't have to over board (sic!) with the cleats, some holders can just be screwed to the wall (like the squares). One small thing though, the music doesn't really add anything, it's just stressful and a bit annoying, and is a bit loud compared to you talking so I have to keep adjusting the volume. I think your content is good enough to not have any backdrop of music or at least keep it low key. Thank you for letting us in to your shed with you. (and reminding me that I do have to start organising my workshop, an possibly stow away some tools... Ohh, the horror...)

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Jim. How right you are. This was a very early video and I had no idea about sound etc. I wish that I could take the music out now but sadly there is no way except taking the video down. The lesson has been learnt and hopefully this issue should not happen again. Thank you so much for taking the time to reach out and for watching the video. Good luck organising your space. It has made a huge difference to my happiness in the shed.

Just dicovering french cleats in my woodworking career and having a small shed as a workshop this has been very handy 👍 can't wait to be organised 😉

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi nico. I love my French Cleats. In fact. my next video is more holders. Rough made like the rest to keep it simple. Thank you for watching and especially for commenting

@chicobabyification

Жыл бұрын

Oh I'll be looking out for the next one then, subscribed ❤️ keep up the good work fellah 👍

Hi Mark, Linear video watcher, here… I know you did this video some time ago and you’re in the process of putting up a new shed. I wonder if you can do a new video of you putting up your new french cleats on your new wall along with any lessons learned from the first time you did it? i.e. would you stick with the same spacing, would you go for the double bevel method to reduce waste, etc? I should have caught up by then. One other question that can’t wait, because I’m itching to start making my own now. Did you make your cleats out of 12mm ply and would you go to a thicker ply if you did it again? Loving the videos, which I watch a couple of times to make sure it sinks in.

@startmaking1

11 ай бұрын

Hi, That is definitely planned. The interior is a little way off as I have not yet tied down an electrician but it is definitely on the list. As for the now question, yes I would still go for 12mm ply cleats. To be honest, I found them just as strong as the 18mm ones I had and come out cheaper. Also there cleats sit a little neater against the wall. The only thing that the 18mm has above the 12mm is that if you have a lot of dust and dont blow it out of the cleats regularly, you have more space with the 18mm cleat so it will sit a little better. Though, Scott Walsh did a video with a spacer behind the cleat that stopped the dust issue. Nice idea but not vital.

@Bluuuz

11 ай бұрын

Brilliant, thank you. Keep the videos coming.

Hey, just watched a few of your videos! Im curious can you put a French cleat wall on a basic shed made with feather edge timber! Im very new to woodworking but the clutter in my shed is driving me nuts! 😂

@startmaking1

Ай бұрын

Hey. I had a basic shed before this workshop and had French cleat up. I didnt put it up on the bare shed walls. ie I didn't just screw the French cleats to the wall, I used a backer board, actually I put up ply walls inside the shed to hand stuff on. It worked really well.

Welcome to the French cleat club. 😂

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Klopchiha. thank you for watching and for commenting. I feel like I should be recruiting. Such a fun build.

I know that french cleats are popular- but I have never seen the attraction. The major issue is module size- how far apart they are determines placement accuracy. This means that individual tools are rarely mounted alone- they are part of a collection with a common carrier. So the arrangement does not apply at the tool level. Unless care is taken with the size of these carriers, the possible arrangements are greatly constrained. They are also not well restrained- often needing additional locking systems. And they collect dust- almost designed to do so. What then? For hand tools and equipment it is hard to beat pegboard- I use a 10mm matrix, giving great control over placement. Bent gardening wire gives quick and secure mounting, and pegs, 3D printed carriers etc give more options. This does not preclude carrier assemblies- things like pencils, pliers, small clamps benefit from simple multiple holders. What about bigger stuff? I have never found difficulty in deciding where these should go- and very rarely want to move them. If I did, it is a couple of screws. If I wanted a wall of very flexible module storage I would fit threaded inserts into a grid pattern. Seconds to move to another place on the grid. And if there is a minor size change required- fit a couple more inserts. Cannot do that with cleats. No dust harbouring, no depth lost, very strong. There may be a compelling reason to use cleats for a particular situation- but I have never met it.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Lol, this is definitely not for you. You strike me from our chats so far as a man that likes order and accuracy. French cleat is about the opposite in a way, flexibility and beauty instead of maximising space. I love how different we all are. I have never thought about the optimising space side really. I love the making of each holder and yes, dust is a real pain too. In truth, you could convince most beginners that these are terrible but what about the fun of the build, the tactile nature of the holders and the warm, creative look of it all. As I say, you are right and both the threaded insert option and the pegboard are in many ways better but I say again, where is the fun. I love these chats by the way. Thankyou

@Tensquaremetreworkshop

Жыл бұрын

@@startmaking1 Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the aesthetic. The Karma of your workshop is important- you should feel comfortable there. But I am a form follows function kinda guy- if it both looks right and works right it feels good. Yes, I do some things for the aesthetic rather than strict functionality, but we are all human. Rationalization enters the fray. However, name me a single woodworker that does not drool over the Studley tool chest. Everything fits perfectly, and can only go in one place. And he used it every day. Being surrounded by organized good tools encourages one to do the best one can. I believe it improves the quality of what is produced- and happiness in doing it. I recently made a machinist's tool chest, (including all the hardware) even though I have no real need for one. I will never use it in practice- it is not as efficient as the system I have in my workshop (slide-out tool holder; protected from dust when not in use, but everything at hand when machining). But I thoroughly enjoyed making it! Cleats are far from being the worst workshop decoration. Stacked toolboxes, especially systainers, adorn many YT workshops. Can you think of a worse way to store tools? But they are decoration.

Great vid! Inspiring for when I'm able to do this for my own workshop. Question -- I'm not seeing the video on you built your sandpaper shelving, did it get taken down? I also can't find the original vid I found of yours on your page anymore.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Brent. Wow you were really paying attention. I actually never posted the sandpaper shelf build. It turned out to be really dull and although I really enjoyed building it I couldn't make the video one that I liked. I also lost half of the footage of the scraper holder. Sooooo I made a plan today actually that I am going to post a video soon of the sandpaper plus the scraper rack plus 10 more or so that I am going to make from scraps in the next few weeks. I thought maybe pack a load in to make it more interesting. Which was the original video btw . I did take the plane and Wall art videos down as I was going to re edit them shorter like the moon vase one that I did. I can give you a link if you would like to rewatch

This is exactly the info I've needed...I have tool clutter 🙈😁 - it's making working difficult as I'm always either clearing space or searching for something. Thank you. This is smart, looks great too (signs a fabulous touch) - it looks brilliant!! - I'm going to watch it again when I'm ready to make this French cleat system (great system). Question please: what size (blade size) circular saw do you think is viable for a woman to handle (this would be the first job I do with it, but obviously not limited to) - I've been needing to get a circular saw ...any advice plse ? (I got a small angle grinder 115mm blade because I was advised to get that size 'as a woman' 🙄😏😂 - I'm quite disappointed at the limitations of the size. It's powerful but not useful to me in my art - I use it very occasionally as it doesn't cut though much of what I need it to cut through (I'm an artist so most of my tools are for my artwork using reclaimed wood and metal, chunks of concrete etc. Would love your thoughtful input please. Thanks again for showing us a step by step build of making this system - it's very kind of you 👍🌺🌳

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Joy. First of all. Thank you again for another lovely comment. I have to say that I am certainly no expert on circular saws or what differences there are between men and women and their tool needs. Personally I don't consider myself to be stronger than most and I find the Makita circular saw very easy to manage. I looked more into the safety features etc. The one thing that I loved was that it had the brake so if you let go of the trigger, the blade stops almost instantly. Great for peace of mind. I find it big enough for all projects so far. I was also tied down by lack of electricity so had to go battery. I already had a makita jigsaw so this financially made sense. After all the batteries are very expensive and you need the charger too. As for the French Cleat system, my advice would be to get the wall up, ie the cleats and then take you time on the holders. Good luck and let me know how you get on. Thank you

No one ever mentions the thickness of the cleats. 5/8" seems sufficient?

@startmaking1

6 ай бұрын

Very true. To be honest this js an early video and I have just released a better one. The cleats I have moved to are 1/2 inch and they are fine in my opinion. ⅜ is also fine just more costly and more effort to cut. Only thing I would do is stick to just one. I did larger for heavier items and smaller for the others and that was not ideal.

Hi Mark just found ur channel! Look forward to more, plans for going through ur workshop, in terms of tour and how u made it? Thanks again and good luck!

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Mo. Thank you for your comment. I have been tempted by a workshop/shed tour. My only concern is that it is so small the video would end up being about 2 mins long. I will do one though as it would be fun. Thank you for watching,

Hi Mark, Mitzi from South Africa new sub 💫. Do you have a video about your clamp rack?

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Mitzi. Thank you for your comment. Sadly not. To be honest it is the same French cleat as the back wall. The brackets are just two triangles for the sides and then the French cleat at the back, mounted onto a back board for stability the width is whatever you need. Mine are not the best design as they tend to rock sideways of all clamps face the same way, I would say go wider if possible.

@mitziseyfferdt3866

Жыл бұрын

@@startmaking1 Thank you Mark, I tend to over complicate things, there are lots of very difficult designs, but I would love to have something easy and basic yet practical, at the moment I am frustrated with having everything all over and never being able to find things and keep it organised easily

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

@@mitziseyfferdt3866 Hi Mitzi. Simple for this one is definitely the easiest. Personally I would take F Clamps and make the distance between the 2 side pieces the distance between the bar and the handle. Hope that makes sense. Them glue and nail or drill and screw a back plate to hold the sides together. Add a cleat to the back and hang. If the bottom of the back rests on the second cleat down and stops tipping then you are done. if not then pop a spacer the same thickness as the top cleat, the one attached to the bracket and that will stop any rocking. I hope this helps, Alternatively, There is a video of the speed run, a 2 min one, of the cleats, if you pause it at 26 seconds you can see one of the brackets. It is ugly and I would add the back brace and spacer to it.

@mitziseyfferdt3866

Жыл бұрын

@@startmaking1 Thank you so much Mark, will check it out, I appreciate your response

how big is your space.

@startmaking1

Жыл бұрын

Hi Glenn. The shed is 10 ft by 8 ft.