Hearing Tommy define the word "shill" like that always makes me laugh. I'm glad it's now forever preserved on the sound board 👍

@therealavolpe

Жыл бұрын

The Amico will haunt Tommy for the rest of his days..

I've met and talked to both Pat and Wet Rice. Wet Rice came off as a douche who was only interested in me spending money on his stuff. Pat just walked up to me and talked to me about random games I had and he was looking at. Pat came off as cool.

He's upset he was included? HE'S LITERALLY WEARING AN AMICO SHIRT.

@coffee115

Жыл бұрын

I wasn't robbing the bank, I just happened to be holding a giant burlap bag of cash at the time!

“They’re doing everything by the book at this convention.” “DID YOU SAY BUY THE BOOK?” “…no Brett.”

@legend4life205

Жыл бұрын

hahaha nice one mate

@Jenovi

Жыл бұрын

😂

Pat didn't screw Brett. Brett screwed Brett.

This is exactly why the retro gaming community needs to stop referring to themselves as a "community." It really isn't one. It's packets of cliques and you can count me out.

@GrindWeCrust

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't want to be buddy buddy with half these peaked in high school nerds

@iancorrigan1174

3 ай бұрын

I don't want to be a part of any group that would have me.

Wait, so Brett "I hope this system succeeds. Perhaps I'm a bit of a shill, but I'll proudly wear that as I do this shirt." Weiss had a problem with being grouped with shills, and says he is not a shill?

@poboxchristmas380

Жыл бұрын

this

@poboxchristmas380

Жыл бұрын

@G. Cooper Well, we know he does take down videos, so he should just take that video down. He took down the racist jump rope video he made once people called him out.

@joshsimpson79

Жыл бұрын

@@poboxchristmas380 Uh… what racist jump rope video? More details appreciated.

@poboxchristmas380

Жыл бұрын

@@joshsimpson79 Brett made a video where he claimed that he has to show inner city girls the right way to jump rope. Several channels covered it and said how racist it was, then Brett deleted the video.

@joshsimpson79

Жыл бұрын

@@poboxchristmas380 thanks. Need a video of Brett Weiss jumping rope asap.

I'm glad that Pat pointed some stuff out. this is what everyone doesn't get. It's not about "what side" you're on on the Amico. It's about being a decent person, and Tommy fails as do most of the shills

@mrdgenerate

Жыл бұрын

Right? And they act like pat is the literal devil for levying criticism and disagreeing with them... and it even further chaps their ass that he was right on this topic.

@ccricers

Жыл бұрын

They should all be mad at Tommy for making people turn against each another.

If you google NES Blackjack, the cover with Pat's face is the one with the highest quality (used to sell the game on another page, funny enough), so I guess he googled the image of the cover and grabbed the one that looked better. This is hilarious xD

I think I can speak for every Brett when I say we don't claim him.

@jimshoos5272

Жыл бұрын

😆

If nothing else, all of this stuff has reminded me that I finally need to order the NES guidebook.

@PatTheNESpunk

Жыл бұрын

Get in early!

eStarland is using the Photoshop'd Blackjack box art too LOL

well thanks Pat...your "Petty Pat" jingle is stuck in my head now

"I'm just gonna let a random person tell me the definition of shill."

Hey Pat, thanks for the shoutout at 26:46! For anyone wondering, I found Pat's face in Brett's book as mentioned at 16:41 in my review as seen here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqR2u9R8pdjTk84.html - amusingly, I didn't recognize it as Pat at the time! I don't think it was malicious, as my 29-minute video includes 13 minutes of me pointing out several errors in Brett's The NES Omnibus. I have no comment about either of you personally, but I will say that I prefer books that have accurate information.

@Jellycakelap

Жыл бұрын

Good looking out, man.

@PatTheNESpunk

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Jon.

@Jeffmetal42

Жыл бұрын

That is a crazy good find, lol. I got quite a few laughs from that. Surely that is a mistake from them just grabbing the first art they found online and not actually checking it. 🤣🤣🤣

@bryanobrien2726

Жыл бұрын

That is one thorough review . Subscribed !

@JonLeung1

Жыл бұрын

@@bryanobrien2726 Thanks! I'm so close to 1000 subscribers now! Hope to get to 1k soon!

I am a newby to the Pat Universe but I've been going down the rabbit hole since the Christmas Video came out. The Amico Shill story has just been insane. I can't believe how awful the shills were to you guys.

@franknacc1718

Жыл бұрын

Is there a video that explains it?

@precoius

Жыл бұрын

@@franknacc1718 I mean, the Amico Christmas video was pretty self-explanatory. Right? I think you get all the context you really need. But if you need to know more, just watch some podcast episodes where they talk about the Amico situation. Even after the fact, when we know how it turns out, it’s still fun to watch. And yes, context.

@jamespilcher5287

Жыл бұрын

The Coleco Chameleon arc from 6 years ago was peak Pat Universe for me

@geoffreyblackmer

Жыл бұрын

Same! This is f a s c i n a t i n g!

I love the jingle lmao..only thing you need to add is this at the end…”AND ME, FRANK!”

Please tell me that regular CUPodcast is ending so you can start your new passion project Petty Pat.

Pat talking to that guy about his videogame guidebook at SGC 2010 was probably a better interaction than he had with me. I was dying to take a shit in the same elevator as him.

Aw man this brings me back to the early 90’s when Nintendo and Sega would interview each other about new games and consoles each of them had coming out.

For what it's worth; I hadn't heard of Brett Weiss or his book until he became an Amico shill. Level up.

I Google image searched for the original NES Blackjack box art and found that EStarLand's online game shop is using the version with the Pat face for their listing.

To be honest, I hadn't heard of _this_ Brett Weiss before the Intellivision shenanigans. I remember when Pat's NES book originally came out and it _was_ considered original because, as Pat said, nobody had made an NES book quite like that before. I might have mentioned this last time but I remember people criticising some of the reviews when it first came out for not being accurate, and it seems we know who to blame. Now if only I could afford to get the book shipped to New Zealand. Might be cheaper to just get Pat to hand-deliver it to me. 🙃

@hurkamur1

Жыл бұрын

This Brett character sounds like a goddamn weasel.

All points aside. I love my Ultimate NES guidebook. An amazing work you guys have put out. You should be really proud.

The fact your face is in his book is literally the icing on all of this cake... like how funny is that shit! I think Ian summed it up pretty nicely with the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" quote. It honestly feels like these guys all are just happy to have a common thread and are sort of in a massive circle jerk about it. Hopefully they just all shut up and go away at some point. They won't, they aren't that cognizant of what is happening, but we can hope.

Just goes to show , people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones . One little stone throw implying that Pat took out Wet's "reviews" from later editions because of royalties and now Wet's whole house of glass is in pieces . They way he treated Antoinette is shameful .

"Stop bouncing the duck" needs to be added to the soundboard.

Why does Brett think that beating everyone over the head with the fact he is an author gives him some special credibility?

@jeremywentzel3352

Жыл бұрын

Look man, I'm a writer. Everything I say is true. Where's your sources?? Uhhhh....gotta go. Bye!

@bryanobrien2726

Жыл бұрын

He thinks it puts him in the same league as doctors .

@bryanobrien2726

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike_Oxlong07 I've never heard Pat do that . He does mention and reference his guidebooks a lot which is not pretentious , it's free advertising and he talks about video games for the podcast so the games that his books review come up a lot . Brett Weiss doesn't mention his books , he promotes himself instead , it's comical .

@JONNYSORENSEN_AU

Жыл бұрын

​@@bryanobrien2726 unlicensed back alley Doctors

To be completely honest at first glance and not knowing anything else, in my mind I always was under the assumption that Brett copied or “was influenced” by Pat’s book. Pat’s superior work product speaks for itself. He obviously felt so strongly in making it and putting his own money into it, and every bit of that comes through.

I just looked at my copy of the omnibus and there it is...I cant unsee it now

Sorry Pat, Wet has dibs on writing The Intellivision Amico Omnibus

The Crypt Keeper doesn't seem sharp enough to handle his own on a "debate" or "war of words". I will forever remember Brett Weiss meeting up with Tommy and struggling mightily on playing that Moon Partrol demo.

@teletrong1

Жыл бұрын

He might be the only one who would benefit from the Amico Multiplayer version

@YETTheShow

Жыл бұрын

Hey! It’s Ninja Kitty!!!

Holy shit. He (Brett) "paid" his writers in exposure? That is super shitty and predatory. He could've at least coughed up contributor copies, but he didn't even do that. What a scumbag.

@ladynikkie

Жыл бұрын

A scumbag seller indeed

@Boonehams

Жыл бұрын

If you're only paying in exposure, then you have to address that up front, which it sounds like Brett did, at least in the cited example. But not providing contributor copies? That's B.S. I've done pro bono work for exposure before (I already had a paying job, so I didn't care), but I knew it was unpaid way ahead of time and still got acknowledgement.

@ccricers

Жыл бұрын

It only got weird when Brett met one of his contributors at the convention, didn't know it, and Brett went all salesman on them.

@jbfarley

Жыл бұрын

​@@ccricersno, it got weird way before that

Calling the Pat face "malicious" is kind to them. They are simply so bad at what they do, that they can't even catch something so simple.

Luring people with the promise "Well...we can't pay you up front, but it's great exposure and experience. Plus if it goes over well we might give you a bonus and hire you for future work" is one the shittier things you can do in any industry and there's no shortage of scumbags who extort free work out of naive artists. I would not be shocked to learn if lots of Amico marketing material and some of the games were done this way. It would explain the sloppy quality control (using the wrong font on the Biplanes box, misspelling "Intellevision"), the complete lack of a consistent art style, the "appropriation" of art assets from commercial games, etc. I wonder how many Amico jobs interviews ended with "your portfolio is great but we'd like to see how fast you can execute a design. Here's a game we'd like you to make some cover art for as a 'test'. And since this is our product with our trademarks, we'll need you to sign this waiver saying we own it..."

One of my first big purchases as a budding 15 year old game collector was getting your book, then my mom kept asking me about when the preorder would finally shipped (since it was on her card lol), greatest video game book writer of all time imo

“Wet Rice” is absolute genius!!😂🤣😆 Just want to say that the way you both have handled this whole thing has been nothing but commendable. I was only kinda aware of you both until the likes of Smash JT and RTUSA began making videos of you, and that’s why I unsubscribed to both of them. This whole Amico saga has been an eye opener for lots of us with regards to who’s actually who on here. And the shills still refuse to learn that, as bad as they look now, everything they do to try and control the narrative just makes them worse.

Do you think my face being in Brett's book was malicious or just sloppy incompetence that shows the level of quality of the book? Let me know! Of course, my books are available at UltimateNintendo.com

@MrKilios01

Жыл бұрын

Totally sloppy incompetence which seems to be par for the course, and is hilarrious

@cruehead419

Жыл бұрын

Just him being petty because your book is more successful

@JackieTheBold

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty funny to think Wet just grabbed a picture of the box art without really looking at it or checking the source of where it came from. I mean that's Amico-level incompetence right there.

@Rando1975

Жыл бұрын

I actually bought 2 of his "Classic Home Video Games" books. It's sloppy incompetence for sure.

@vejit

Жыл бұрын

Somehow It reminds me of the "inverted controls" situation with Amico 😂 So it doesn't matter if it's on purpose or by accident, both options are wrong and shouldn't happen in the first place.

To me there was never a question on which SNES guidebook I wanted, some random I've never heard of was never in the running. Could not be happier with my SNES guidebook, helped me make many a shopping list :D

@bretton_woods

Жыл бұрын

if it werent for Pat and Ian id have never heard of wet rice either

Have you ever read Brett's Story about William Shatner? That was the worst, because he tries to make himself like the good guy, while at the same time showing the reader that he was 100% in the wrong! It's really something.

@KahlessTheUnforgettable

5 ай бұрын

Where can I read this?! I’m so intrigued!

@NIProductionsLLC

5 ай бұрын

@@KahlessTheUnforgettable I believe it’s still on his blog.

But but... the one in question is supposed to be a "nice guy".

Almost sounds like you should talk to a lawyer about "wet rice" using your image in his book that he profits from

It makes me very happy knowing that the absurd lengths that Tommy and the Shill Squad went to, because they wanted to poorly dunk on 2 podcasters, will forever be immortalized. It's impressive how bad they made themselves look because they thought they were friends with a weird dude who did ok video game music that nobody remembers, and now looks completely unhinged to everyone else in the video game space. All of this for a failure worse than Ouya, and fake rich guy, who tries to claim anything he can to act like he's had any relevance since like 1995 with Earth Worm Jim 2, a game that very few people under the age of 50 seem to care about.

@dennett316

Жыл бұрын

Yep. They've all utterly torpedoed their reputations with the association to Tommy and Intellivision...and for what? An outdated console and beyond mediocre games that stumbled at every step until completely imploding. Each and every shill have revealed themselves to be either dumb, kinda shitty people, or a combination of both those traits. Every one of them has been thoroughly dunked on and they don't have the capacity to reply with anything other than insults or nonsense. They embarrassed themselves for all to see.

Taking a Business of Video Games course at NYU. Looking forward to this case study hopefully coming up in class 🤞

I'm an avgn fan and kinda only watched his content until the crossover with Pat. Now my first dive into Pat's content has been this Intellivision controversy and long story short...I was supposed to start Sunday apartment cleaning almost 2 hours ago..but I keep diving deeper. This is whole saga is amazing

@NewAgeRed

7 ай бұрын

A long time ago. A listener was calling in every week acting like Tommy, responding to the things said on the show the week before. It was always very funny.

Tommy Tallarico defining the term "shill" for Brett Weiss is my hardest laugh of 2023. Thank you for the new six pack Sirs. UPDATE: Just noticed the shirt. Dead.

I like how "Petty Pat The NES Punk" isn't petty at all, nor a punk! If you want to talk shit, be a man like Pat and do it so the other person can hear you. Don't be a coward and talk shit behind people's backs. Pat isn't starting shit...he's dealing with other people's shit flinging in the best way possible! I love it!

Brett screwed Brett! 💖

@ShacoTime85

Жыл бұрын

probably lost his smile too!

@InfectiousGroovePodcast

Жыл бұрын

@@ShacoTime85 I came to add this comment and you beat me to it haha

@HappyMealBieber

Жыл бұрын

The amico screw job

@djconvoy

Жыл бұрын

fantastic

@azure1259

Жыл бұрын

Tommy Tallarico kicked Brett's leg out of his leg.

If anything the contributor should have had the little blurb and Brett should have had the long columns.

The only reason I will get a copy of the wet rice book is if I could get Pat to autograph the blackjack pic with his face in it. 😅

@KahlessTheUnforgettable

5 ай бұрын

That would be epic; and I hate saying epic!😂

Faulty glue means the pages of Brett's book fall apart..!! 🤣🤣

The picture on the book looks like a love-child between Pat and Rami Malek.

22:50 The desperate-high-school-student-trying-to-sell-off-the-chocolate-bars-he-still-has-to-relatives-and-friends-(who-were-also-selling-chocolate-bars)-in-the-last-3-days-of-the-candy-sale-door-to-door-in-a-very-weird-and-unprofessional-manner way of selling the books... I wonder if he ate the rest of his books in a basement somewhere...

Yeah I saw that he made that blog post on his site as his attempt to defend himself... just makes him look much weirder. Like seriously creepy old man alert.

I'm going to assume Brett did not address the infamous picture on twitter or his website?

I had been given a copy of Brett's book as a birthday present and after watching your video and you guys fighting back against all the cyber bullying I immediately tossed it in the recycle bin. But only cause I didnt want to clog my toilet.

@user-xn3kt6bn5r

Жыл бұрын

You should always cherish gifts from friends. Why not repurpose it as mulch, or kindling?

@giorgiomx

Жыл бұрын

Just make sure not to be too influenceable

@ThePropaneSalesman

Жыл бұрын

Could've donated that sucker or resell/replace it with Pat's book, but good on you anyway.

You're killing me with that shirt bit. 🤣🤣🤣

Was never a Brett fan to begin with but the more I hear about the guy the more I dislike him. I love that he put out a video about you recently that's basically the definition of passive aggressive. The guy has some issues he needs to work on.

Hmm, I wonder if Author Wet Rice is going to recall their NES book give this recently discovered gaffe of using the WRONG BOX ART for blackjack…

Pat made the best book hands down. Now pat make a book of all the manuals thats what I need!

​oh, Ian. How can you expect AN AUTHOR to know what WORDS mean?

Well don't worry. I bet Tommy will claim he "worked on" Metroid Prime Remastered, soon enough.

I specifically remember walking up to your booth at MGC last year, with both the NES and SNES books in my backpack to get signed (I was the one where the Special Edition might have "slipped"...stupid glossy covers 😉), and down the aisle from your booth was Wet's. His books caught my eye, as it definitely seemed a bit odd to see them in comparison to yours, but I had no idea of the background between you too, and honestly, I'd never heard of him at all before that. I'll definitely make a point of giving him the stink eye if I run into him in April.

@ZForceFFC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah hearing all this now makes it kind of I guess, ironic? That both Pat and Wet were in such close proximity to each other at MGC. Kinda like how it was also funny that Pat's booth was so close to the WATA booth.

"Wet Rice" I love Ant, and this is the first I've heard of her.

@zzzzombiezzzz

Жыл бұрын

I try 😂

Brett made a video about Rudy Ferretti who committed murder/suicide. It was blaringly obvious Brett was simply trying to gain, gain clicks, etc. It was shameful.

The Andre the Giant Photoshop cracks me up every time!

your face is in his book, maybe he should do a recall 😄

Petty Pat TWENTY TWENTY THREE BABEH!

You know with that unauthorized photo, you could make Wet Rice recall the book cuz that's a thing.

This whole drama has been pretty amusing to watch as a complete outsider who sometimes has your videos get algorithm’d into my recommendations. The fact that he accidentally put your photoshopped face in his book forever is just the most spectacular self-own I’ve seen in a long time. I’ve been musing that the shills really acted a lot like Elon fans, there’s something about capitalist culture and it’s exaltation of superficial ostentatious displays of wealth that really seems to be harming the psyches of some men (it’s always men).

I hope WATA starts grading first print-run editions of Ultimate Nintendo: Guide to the NES Library, featuring the rare erroneous Brett Weiss variant reviews!

A cardboard cutout saying, "Buy my book!" is less annoying than Wet Rice!

Pat's pretty good at jingles

Wet Rice is the best part of this entire thing lmaoooooo

The theme song. *chef kiss*

General rule is if you're business relies on underpaying staff then you don't have a viable business model. If the money is there but you don't pay them by choice then that's just greed.

As a backer of your NES book and a purchaser of the SNES book, I figured I'd check out other similar books as well to get as many angles as possible. I had both volumes of his NES book and his system compendium wish-listed on Amazon. That's a nice quick and easy fix.

@thejackal007

Жыл бұрын

Also, the Petty Pat jingle is great!

Everyone in this whole conversation sound insane to the point I would even go to con with any one there

Recall the books! Students would love it if textbooks were recalled for revisions! Wett Rice was *ing busted in this video, good job!!

I've Don Rickel'ed you in the comments in the past here. However I loved this. I love all you do. I'll save up money to get your books. They are essential as far as info f9r the games. Thank you.

Wow that jingle is gonna be stuck in my head all night, maybe the beer will help me forget it. :)

I think the best part of Pat's book is the Star-rating system. I mean that's something any newbie to NES gaming would be interested in. Forget the history and memories, kids need to know the good games are, and the possible hidden gems, while helping them avoid the duds.

@pd1426

Жыл бұрын

Even though I would have given a higher rating for Battletoads and Bad Dudes.

Pat is a boon for the hobby, don't leave this field, Pat! we need you now more than ever. keep a retro gaming scene podcast going!

I'm sure the drama can get tiring at times, but at least a fine jingle came from it all!

Author Brett Weiss the author also known as author Brett Weiss the author

@X360DevNerd

Жыл бұрын

hey buh bug, buh muh book

Glad you mentioned the Brett Weiss blog. He comes across like a stalker remembering every interaction.

Hi Pat, you should be hitting wet up for Royalties for using an image of yourself in his book. If he refuses, you should have grounds for compensation, especially after he didn’t seek permission from you to do so.

I used to love your photoshopped face on NES games!

That jingle 😂😂

This Amico fiasco truly revealed some shittastic people that's for sure.

I am extremely here for Petty Pat

I bought your book & never heard of this other guy until now.

Petty Pat > Punk Pat

The teachers grading the bad kids in class

Wet Rice was destroyed in this video.

One of the first to comment! Pat your face on the launch picture for this video cracks me up! I hate to see you and Ian "go". You're literally the only podcast I ever watched, so thanks for 350 episodes of laughs.

Love the new song and segment intro for Petty Pat, nice to get something new. Also that Casinos game was one of my favorite Pat the NES Punk videos that I ended up getting my had on a few of those games and liked it. Had a fun moment were I was drunk and stones with roommates and showed him the nes game that we bet all our money in game which was $15000 and won. Anyway love the podcast and some youtubers these days.

Brett's (and his supporters) view on this, is very strange.

Ian and Pat, u nailed Amico Shill. I'm not embarassed to admit that at first I devoured what they were spewing having grown up on Intellivison. My older brother and I were both so super excited initially to see promises of upgraded greats we spent houurs playing together as kids. Cloudy Mountain. Bomb Squad. Night Stalker. We didn't really care about the new stuff, we just wanted so terribly badly to be able to sit down together on a Christmas morning like we did for all those years a gain back some of that magic. I just wanted it SO bad I believed it all until I didn't. And as much as I really didn't want to believe what you guys were saying, I finally did have to admit a new era of Intellivision wasn't coming and in fact, their own actions have destroyed all hope that I will ever see anything new Intellivision and the brand many of us old timers still have fond memories of, was eviscerated and trampled underfoot. I figure if Keith could have returned from the grave he would have, and rained hell fire down upon all these shills for disrespecting the legacy of Keith and the Blue Sky Rangers.

@IRgEEK

Жыл бұрын

PS Neither of us ever got a refund for our founders edition pre-orders

2 words: GOT EM! . But in all seriousness, be respectable and know fair game can be fair game on all sides. . Much respect to Pat and Ian, onward to 350! . .