Mike Heiser (my number one bible teacher) did a four-part video series discussing Eschatology. His point was that whatever your understanding, they all require assumptions to get there. Instead of spending my time trying to figure out the correct eschatology, I just spend my time trying to live a life that is pleasing to God.

Finally, an amillennialist who will make a chart! I commend you!

Ultimately, whatever eschatological view we adopt, we should be ready for our Lord’s return.

Very informative! I will need to listen again to take notes. “Fight you in the parking lot” 😂 Appreciate your sense of humor!

@leslietascoff9784

7 ай бұрын

Are you going to fight him in the parking lot? 🤣

Thank you for explaining and showing so clearly!!

Thank you for the distinction between post-mil and a-mil. What is presented here is what I would have classified as a post-mil position, but with the caveats you listed, it helps in drawing a distinction.

Great work! Thanks for sharing with us

Thank you so much for this video and the timeline!

Amen. A very good exposition of the biblical data. Thank you.

Really love this chart! Is there a place that you have it available for download?

@nataliapetrenko5789

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I want it too! Thank you for your work, Pastor!

@walterwillis6731

7 ай бұрын

Meeeee too!

@jeragsdale32

7 ай бұрын

I would also love to have downloadable version if possible.

I agree with most of this. Good job.

Hey Pastor Matt, great video! Very informative 😊

Thank you so much Sir for your wonderfully explanation ❤️ God bless you more and looking for more videos 🙏🏻

Great summary. I am Christian Reformed, and this is what our church believes as well. However, I don't think most people in my church know what they believe on this issue.

I enjoy your teaching. I am more eclectic in my view but I am very much covenant in my theology.

Thanks for this! I’ll have to check out your other views on this but lately I’ve been really drawn to this view.

Thank you. I agree. 😀

Thank you Pastor Everhart for posting your chart, and for providing a detailed explanation. I think it’s a moot point as to whether the dispensationalists are right, or if you’re correct. It won’t matter, and none of us will really care about it once Jesus Christ returns. I believe all of us will just be overwhelmed with joy once He returns.

Put a link to the chart in the description?

@KindomChums

7 ай бұрын

Agree. Please link the chart

Love Pastor Matt's work. No parking lot prooftexting fights here! I did think of a joke: a young Seminary student has a crush on a young lady . . . his awkward pickup line is "Hi there you wanna walk through my eschatology chart?" If she says yes, he should probably marry her on the spot! :) 😊

Thanks for your explanations Matthew. Among all I listen to, you've had the most profound effect on my eschatological understandings. I picked up "Revelation - A Shorter Commentary" by GK Beale per your recommendation. I've refrained from reading it until I've completed my study of the OT. I was introduced to a sound presentation of Christ's Gospel at the age of 10 (although young in Christ - now celebrating my 1 year anniversary at age 47) from a Brethren Church (Gospel Hall Assembly); however, they were pre-mi,l dispensational, Arminianist's/provisionist's. Little was ever spoken as to the church's origins, however, I've since learned that John Nelson Darby (b.1800) is their effective patriarch, who also happens to be a keynote player of modern day dispensationalism/rapture-culture. I recently listened to a couple year old video by James White, a man I have great admiration for, describe his movement from amillennialism (AM) to post-millennialism (PM), largely under the influence of his younger colleague Jeff Durbin (another man I admire), citing that AM is flat, not providing the excitement that a PM world-view offers. These were anecdotal comments, as I'm confident there were other considerations involved, but was rather shocked to see a personal sentiment of this nature seemingly take the lead role for a determination of a eschatological view, as though one's feelings in response to a view are a barometer to its veracity. This appears to be antithetical to the approach James White takes on his acknowledgement of other doctrines. This may sound harsh, and please know I consider eschatology a distant second behind Christ's Gospel, but I consider the exuberance of rapture-culture to be an embarrassment to the Christian faith. It has garnered ridiculously disproportionate attention, selling more books in Christendom than all other topics (maybe combined). The 1980's went through a veritable craze with the "Left Behind" series. The movement is also responsible for producing secret rapture predictions for 1984, 1988, and 1989. These are stains on the Christian faith and should be a message to all those in Christ, that one's feelings to a particular view should not be the guide stone to understanding. Rapture theory is a modern interpretation, not found anywhere for the first 1,800 years of Church history to my knowledge. Matthew, a question: could you flush out the "resurrection of the dead" section? Perhaps you have an existing video on this. What are the ramifications and suppositions to be extrapolated? Are the unregenerated dead currently in hell? Are the regenerated dead currently in heaven? Do the dead have their current existence solely in spirit and await new bodies at this triggering event? Perhaps you could point me in a good direction. Thanks again.

@sierragrey7910

7 ай бұрын

Mick, your thoughts reflect many of mine. Like you, I have immense respect for James White and Jeff Durbin. Thar said, I don’t think James has ever been invested in eschatology as much as other subjects. I respected that as I’ve felt similarly. I have sat under amillennial preaching and teaching and began to take a serious look into the prophets of the OT. I spent much time in the extensive material on the book of Daniel and in amillennialism material lectures on Kim Riddlebarger’s site and have purchased his books which I have yet to read. All that said I felt most comfortable about his position though I can respect postmillennial positions. My concerns have been about the recent surge in postmillennialism and its connection to theonomy andChristian Reconstructionism. In some sense I wonder if James White has not been drawn toward his current position due to his social and emotion connections to those camps. Again, I have great respect for James White.

@MickJagger-el6of

7 ай бұрын

@@sierragrey7910 Thanks for your comment. Yes, I have heard James White explicitly state that eschatology is a less emphasized aspect of his undertakings, a decision I can well respect given the importance of the Gospel, soteriology, the depravity of man, the sovereignty of the Triune God, His Divine attributes, Creation, etc. I personally find myself reasonably firm and well-grounded in these areas. On eschatology, I'm not quite as ardent or firm, still coming to understandings. As I look at the world today and see where humanity is heading and observe the current state of the modern church, I find it difficult to lean optimistically into PM. PM's will usually state that this is a mere short-term down tick to an overall upward trend. And there's no doubt significant uptick things to take note of; predominantly, the highest quality and quantity of manuscripts ever discovered, offered to the globe via the internet. Access to God's divine revelation has never been more ubiquitous. However, the current state of western cultures and the movement of churches towards, in capitulation, to these increasingly Godless societies, does not seem to comport with PM outtakes. I also hold some truly mixed bag feelings as it relates to theonomy . While a restoration to our former Christian nation status is no doubt desirable, it all seems like putting the cart before the carriage. If this is to be , then it seems this ought to be an organic ground-swelll movement resultant from a legitimate Christian revival throughout the nation, rather than an unsustainable top-down initiative to impose directives on an undesiring citizenry. I personally feel let down by the modern evangelical church for largely failing to act as the divinely appointed bulwark against such outcomes. Instead of standing apart, being firm, communicating their positions with convincing reasonableness, they have instead adopted the world's ways in order to engender fleeting favor and tolerance of its existence. In the end, all that has unfolded and continues to is according to God's decree. All considerations melt into a faith upon Christ.

@troyanderson1650

7 ай бұрын

Your post is very well spoken. I do need to take exception with what you shared about Dr James White. He feverishly covered over the Scriptures while being lovingly challenged by Pastor Jeff Durbin. He arrived at his Postmillennial view based on Scripture alone. He has shared how the Postmillennial view does give you a more robust view for your grandchildren and future generations. However, any excitement was after he studied the Word and not before. Just needed to clarify that point.

@MickJagger-el6of

7 ай бұрын

@@troyanderson1650 Thank you. I have no doubt that Dr. White's positions are only those which have sustainable exegetical support from Scripture. I would attribute the same characteristic to Pastor Duribn. We all nonetheless, myself included, bring our humanness to bear upon how we understand Scripture and interpret the world we live in. I've seen Dr. White take difficult and unpopular stances on matters, but hold firm in spite of blow-back because of his unceasing reliance on Scripture. It is for that characteristic he holds my highest esteem. I'm an eschatological novice, but I don't see PM as suffering from overt exegetical error; rather, given its subject matter partly encompass things yet to come, that the measurement of its accuracy ought to be based in some part on the history, current position, and trajectory in which human beings find themselves. I obviously cannot enter into Dr. White's thought processes. I cannot discern the timing nor weight of personal desires (e.x. the natural desire for the well--being of his grandchildren), that came into his consideration for his change in longstanding stance, but there is nonetheless great suggestion taken from his own words that these played a role. Do I believe he would hold these views if the weight of Scripture spoke otherwise? No. From my limited understanding AM & PM are both plausible and reasonable exegetical determinations. The final factor that tilts which one is accurate is garnered by understanding human history, understanding where we stand today in light of recent history, and what these things might offer to suggest where we are heading. - I'm now feeling the urge for another James White debate video. Peace be with you brother!

@sierragrey7910

7 ай бұрын

@@MickJagger-el6of Your comments are so well stated that I made a note of them. God has gifted you with the ability to not only reason but convey that reasoning well. Thank you.

thanks for sharing. I'm not sure where I stand on. I see all the different opinions and it's hard to settle on one. Each view has valid Biblical points. I wonder if its not God's will that we know EVERY PRECISE detail. I like how you highlight the main things we know for sure and leave room for unknown exact details to play out.

@toolegittoquit_001

7 ай бұрын

Anything that is based upon Dispensationalism is fraught with peril

I decided to delete all my past posts and start new. Pastor Everhard definitely has some solid teachings on many other subjects. Like him, I’m not here to pick a fight and I certainly wouldn’t take him out in the parking lot and begin a fight. His view of eschatology is interesting but with all due respect, I strongly disagree with it. I will stick with the dispensational view which fits the eschatological puzzle much better. That’s all I have to say. Pastor Everhard loves the Lord and His Word. I just don’t agree with the whole amillennial view of eschatology as it’s way too much of an allegorical interpretation of the Bible.

@toolegittoquit_001

7 ай бұрын

Calling Dispensationalism a puzzle is a most accurate representation. The Covenantal view of history is much cleaner and doesn’t not result in a maze of End Time activities. A and Post Millennial beliefs are much more simple, easily supported by Scripture and just make more sense.

@sydney.g.sloangammagee8181

Ай бұрын

@@toolegittoquit_001 See, now, I don't agree . . . big chunks of OT prophecy are completely disregarded in support of Revelation repeating "1,000 years" multiple times for emphasis . . . Jesus WILL physically reign on earth, upon the throne of David. If amillennial & postmillennial cannot recognize that, then I cannot be amillennial or postmillennial no matter whatever ways you try to explain things, that is the stop-gap for me, so what does that leave for me to believe - I am premillennial. PERIOD And none of this has anything to do with the when, where, why or how of a Rapture. Rapture & Resurrection are 2 completely different definitions of a word in the dictionary & in the Bible, they are not interchangeable.

The sense I get is that the difference between the optimistic Amillenial and Postmillenial is the degree of eventual success of the discipling of the nations. Often if a speaker does not specifically label themselves it can be hard to "pick them out of a lineup". Some of my fellow Posties seem to insist that for the Amillenial Christ's current reign is only spiritual and not earthly but that doesn't seem to be universally true as near as I can tell. As to the return of Christ I tend to think of it in terms of the Roman Triumph procession.

Great presentation! I’m with you on this one brother. 👍🏼

So refreshing to hear PChUSA still have bible believers but I bet u not Princeton Grad likely Westminster... very refreshing

Glory to God! and also, I wonder what software makes a neat presentable chart like that?

I like that "optimistic Millenial" . My pastor Kenton is a panmillenial. 🙂

⚔️*Drawing my sword*⚔️ LOL thank you for your charity, Pastor. ❤️ You think you could do a video on what "Pastor" means in Presbyterianism, and why some Presbyterian denominations choose "Reverend" instead? Or is it maybe the person chooses their own rank rather than the denomination? Would appreciate your insight. Thanks!!

Thank you for this explanation. I would only point out that Catholics do not believe that priests or the Pope are forgiving sins based on their own personal authority, but rather on the authority of Christ which has been delegated to them (John 20:23).

Thanks for your teaching.

I'm pretty new to faith and probably jumped too much in the deep end. Don't have a strong position or denomination yet but can't stop being curious of universalism. I'd really like a video refuting it, to help me think it through.

Not trying to pick a fight, I love you brother but I find A-millennialism to be very flawed. I think pre-millennialism fits best with the text. I do agree with you on the timing of the rapture though. A millennium is 1,000 years but it has been 2,000 years since the cross so the millennium has either ended or the Bible is wrong. Paul also said post cross that satan is the god of this world/or present age and I think all we have to do is look around us to see that. Thank you for the video and simplifying your point of view!

@MrAndyhdz

Ай бұрын

Dispensationalism is flawed. God is beyond space-time yet He acts and promises different things based on simple linear time periods? No way.

I appreciate your videos and have subscribed to your channel. So regarding Israel, you believe that there will be large number of Jews saved near the return of Jesus, but no national restoration?

Didn’t you make a video on the different end times views? Please link to it as I don’t see it in your videos. Thanks.

Okay, serious question from a Particular Baptist (I understand you believe we are not fully Reformed) about the last days. My OPC pastor has tried to explain to me that the 7 year tribulation is like looking past the valley to the mountain, ie resurrection and return of Christ. I don't understand it. Do you believe there will be a 7 year tribulation immediately prior to Christ's return? To me, if there IS to be such a tribulation, we know Christ will not return until after. Thus, it would be at least 7 years - since the 'man of lawlessness has not been revealed. Therefore, we cannot be expecting His return 'at any time' - which I believe we should be doing. I hope my question makes since and that I will understand your answer and reasoning. thanks in advance, Charlie D.

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5:56 My view of non-premillenial eschatlogies tends to be that they run the danger of being too optimistic: "We're living in the millennium, everything is improving, there's no need to be on guard against old errors because all of that has been left in the past." Of course, pre-trib is the variant of premillenialism that's popular right now, and it's worse: "Jesus will yoink us off the planet before the Antichrist shows up and all the bad stuff starts happening, just like he yoinked the Israelites out of Egypt as soon as Pharaoh started even *thinking* about enslaving them, and blasted Egypt with plagues as soon as they were gone." Post-trib premillenialism doesn't offer us the hope (a false hope, I believe) of reaching the millennium without suffering. The millennium is on the other side of the tribulation, and we don't get to skip the tribulation except by dieing, which is itself hard.

You can screenshot the image of the chart using Windows Snippet tool

RC Church believes Purgatory to be a temporary state, not eternal, for the "purging" of the souls of the Faithful, not of the damned.

Could you put this chart in your About: Links? Thanks!

Matt. 24:29-31 is definitely knowable as verse 34 follows. I am coming from a Preterist point of view. Optimistic Amil.

Hope this conversation is open to questions: I noticed that according to this position that there would be a “sign” so to speak of Christs return. That would be the unleashing of Satan from how he had been bound during the Millennium. Any thoughts on that?

Are these sermons you referenced on KZread?

That was helpful, thanks !

Can you share your chart? It would be very helpful.

part 1/2I am not here to pick a fight just for you to consider a few ideas at about the 11-minute mark you mention the Rapture. Just some thoughts that some Christians might not have considered. John 14:1-6 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And where I go you know, and the way you know.” 5 Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. So here Jesus is saying I'm going to my Father's house (Heaven) to prepare a place for you there 3 "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also." He says you know the way. The Way is through Him (Believers) So it says here Jesus will come to take us to Heaven to the place He's prepared for us. Contrast this with Zechariah 14 Then the Lord will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. 4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two, From east to west,...5b Thus the Lord my God will come, And all the saints with Him. (sounds like the 2nd Coming Rev 19: 11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses." Zechariah 14:9 And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be- “The Lord is one,” And His name one...16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the [i]punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. So Jesus returns and stands on the Mount of Olives and returns to Heaven with us? No. Jesus goes to Jerusalem and reigns and every year we all go to worship Him on the Feast of Tabernacles. So at the 2nd Coming when does Jesus take us to the place in Heaven He's prepared for us? Also, Acts 1:9-11 9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” So Jesus ascends into the clouds and 2 men are there talking to the Disciples. I assume these 2 "men" are the same 2 that were at the transfiguration and maybe the tomb and now the Ascension. Either way they seem to be divine beings and they say "This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” "In like manner" Does this sound like Rev 19:11-16? Jesus goes up alone into the clouds not on a white horse or a eyes of fire and a shape sword out of His mouth having many crowns with the armies of Heaven. These events are distinct in Scripture one is where we are taken to Heaven to the place He's prepared for us at some point and the other the 2nd Coming He reins from Jerusalem. What's also interesting is that Paul in 1 Thessalonians 5 says But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape... 8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. 9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. 11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing. So what's the "Day of the LORD"? Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great day of the Lord is near It is near and hastens quickly. The noise of the day of the Lord is bitter; There the mighty men shall cry out. 15 That day is a day of wrath, A day of trouble and distress, A day of devastation and desolation, A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, 16 A day of trumpet and alarm Against the fortified cities And against the high towers. 17 “I will bring distress upon men, And they shall walk like blind men, Because they have sinned against the Lord; Their blood shall be poured out like dust, And their flesh like refuse.” 18 Neither their silver nor their gold Shall be able to deliver them In the day of the Lord’s wrath; But the whole land shall be devoured By the fire of His jealousy, For He will make speedy riddance Of all those who dwell in the land." Revelation 6:15-17 Seal 6 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” Notice this is not the 2nd Coming since there are 7 Seals, then 7 Trumpets, then 7 Bowls, and then the 2nd Coming in Revelation 19:11-16. If the "gathering to the LORD" is the Rapture and the Rapture is at the 2nd Coming where Jesus comes to reign then why is it a terrible thing for the Thessalonian Church. They are shaken, distressed that they missed the gathering and the Day of the LORD has come. 1 Thessalonian 5 I don't believe in a Rapture in advance of the 2nd Coming because of a denomination or a church doctrine. I also, don't believe in an escapism Rapture. However, I believe in a Rapture because of the Blood of Jesus. 1 Thess 5:9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” Romans 5: 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. So because Rev 6 Seal 6 says "And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” I believe in a Pre-2nd Coming Rapture. Now looking at 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. To get into Heaven where He has prepared a place for us we need to be changed 1 Cor 15:50-57 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed- 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” 55 “O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?” 56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Hope this helps add some thoughts to the conversation. (I'll add a part 2 just listing some excerpts from early Christian father's commentary on the topic.)

@sydney.g.sloangammagee8181

Ай бұрын

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU This is what I've been saying, but you've got the actual scriptures that support it . . . Jesus will physically reign on earth & any view that disregards big chunks of scripture that supports the 1,000 years repeated numerous times in Revelation for emphasis - I cannot agree with, so both amillennial & postmillennial are OUT for me. All other considerations aside, OT scripture from multiple prophets cannot be ignored, Jesus confronts the Pharisees on that very point, is that symbolic too? Thank you for this . . . but you just can't convince them that 1,000 years is a 1,000 years!

Quick Q: I’m a post mil but I want to ask if you could clarify the date unknownable. I would say that we wouldn’t know the golden age until He has returned but with that being said, I would say that a mil would agree with this, there is prophecy to be fulfilled meaning that we will both see this being fulfilled but not know the exact day.

@1689ers

7 ай бұрын

I think we both agree in this point I just want to make sure and clarify

My biggest problem with this view is, How do we know that the millennial reign is supposed to be symbolic?

@BMB125

7 ай бұрын

The same question can be made for those who hold it literally. We take it as we take the rest of Revelation, mostly symbolic.

Thank you for explaining this. It is difficult to find Amillennials who are straightforward and clear with things like this. Just a PSA for everyone from an elder at my own church: John's Apocalypse (the Book of Revelation) is in the genre called Apocalyptic. Daniel's book is the taproot of this genre. This kind of literature contains visions and images, and these images are neither symbols nor allegories but rather are illustrations of _events_ and _persons in events_ (cf. Daniel's four beasts, goat vs. ram). In the image of Revelation 20, notice that the reign of Christ is _presumed_ , as if it is already a reality. By itself, this should indicate that Christ's reign is not being portrayed in terms of a millennium. Rather, the central event of the millennium is stated explicitly when it says, "_________________ for 1,000 years." The central event of Rev. 20's millennium, then, would be _the binding of the dragon_ . Yes, the text says something else about 1,000 years, but (1) who is reigning for 1,000 years? (2) Is that part of the passage the central event which the image illustrates? From this, I have come to the persuasion that the three easy categories of "Premil," "Amiil," and "Postmil" have arisen from Dispensational fixation upon the Millennium rather than a historical understanding and categorization of eschatological beliefs (cf. Iain Murray: The Puritan Hope).

@sydney.g.sloangammagee8181

Ай бұрын

You make a strong point . . . instead of just trying to convince & persuade . . . you have presented things to consider! THANK YOU!!!

Great explanation. I completely agree. 😎

Thanks for sharing and giving a clear explanation of the Amillennial timeline. I am a pre trib rapture guy...But we can agree to disagree agreeably.

@WalkingbytheSpiritAlways

7 ай бұрын

Hi, I am pre-Trib too and have done over 700 videos about it, but YT is promoting this man's channel. I put in this comment already, and I hope you are like minded: While I appreciate your chart, my channel is 100% pre-Tribulation rapture, and I don't understand why believers can't see that the rapture is not a big U turn in the sky as Jesus returns to earth (2nd Coming). The born again church goes UP to heaven for seven years escaping Daniel's 70th week/the Tribulation and the events of Revelation 6-19 happen. The bride of Christ is not here after Revelation 4:1. In my videos I show the rapture verses and the 2nd Coming verses, and they are different. Also you say you are an amillennialist, which is error too. Hopefully you will look into this further. The church has not replaced Israel, and the church is promised to escape- Revelation 3:10-11. Any day now, millions around the world will disappear, bur probably only 2-3% if those who claim to be Christians in America are truly born again. Reformed theology is wrong on divorce and remarriage adultery, cessationism and usually infant baptism too. Maranatha.

@sydney.g.sloangammagee8181

Ай бұрын

I am pre-trib, I believe in Jesus physically reigning on earth, sitting upon David's throne for 1000 years while Satan is bound & false prophet & beast already in lake of fire. After all these millennial & generations of deception & confusion & people being up in arms against one another - it just makes perfect sense to me that humanity needs a prolonged period to live in a world of truth & clarity to comprehend how God intended us to live with & amongst one another.

@bigtobacco1098

Ай бұрын

1 return not 3

Postmillenialists don't deny that difficulty will permeate the entire church age. They just qualify that by affirming *persecutional* difficulty will not permeate all the way through. I'd be interested in seeing the evidence for constant persecutional suffering, as amillennialists assert.

Good presentation. My interpretation of the NT is the Jewish eschaton ended in 70AD. That is when the fullness of the Gentiles came in and the Heavenly Kingdom became mostly Gentiles. Jesus referred to "the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled" in Luke 21:24 as He spoke of the coming Roman destruction of Jerusalem. Also note that Romans 11:27b is from Isaiah 27:9 and says that the price of pardoning Jacob's(Israel) sins is pulverizing the altar stones(destruction of the Temple). In my view the hardening of the Jews was removed at that time. There will be some conversion of Jews from 70AD until the Second Advent but no end times mass conversion.

Pr, if you don't mind, I printed the chart and would like to keep it to me. I was raised Dispensationalist, but I find it kind of weird, so I'm trying to sort this out by myself.

@sydney.g.sloangammagee8181

Ай бұрын

I hate all these super huge words thrown about like candy at a parade, like everybody just knows what each of them mean . . . dispensationalist, cessationist, continuationist & amillennial, postmillennial, premillennial, pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib . . . it goes on & on & on . . . some non-believer impressed with their own wisdom trying to impress others comes up with these words & yet "they" keep arguing that the word "RAPTURE" is not in the bible!!! John 21:21-22 Peter, seeing him, said to Jesus, "But Lord, what about this man?" Jesus said to him, "If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow Me." We make it so much more complicated than it needs to be, searching for clues to solve the mystery, decoding the secrets within the parables . . . Jesus used simple straightforward words to explain, not to confuse, "For My yoke is easy & My burden is light." Gather information from within humanity, but seek wisdom only from God, the Word & intercession from the Holy Spirit!

Quick question… when would you say the book of Revelation was written?

@toolegittoquit_001

7 ай бұрын

Since I’m Pre-Mill, I’ll say prior to the destruction of the Temple

@sydney.g.sloangammagee8181

Ай бұрын

I'm also pre-mill but I think there is more support for after 70 AD & destruction of temple, more like 90 AD Paul & Peter martyred 65 to 68 AD James & John pretty well still in Jerusalem until then but had to go to these churches & many believers/Christians left prior to destruction of Jerusalem because Jesus had warned them - it was mostly Jews who were killed & scattered afterward . . . John was at Ephesus, timeline of Roman rulers, at a later age, John exiled to Patmos as last surviving Apostle.

Do you have a video that shares your thoughts of when the saints who had fallen asleep were raised at the crucifixion of Jesus in Matthew 27:52? Sounds like the man of lawlessness is Adam.

I’m confused about the resurrection of the dead. When we die, will we be immediately with the Lord, or will we wait until the resurrection of the dead?

If 1 John was written before the destruction of Jerusalem, you could include an "A" (for "Antichrist") to the left of 70AD on your chart.

I got some dispy vibes from the thumbnail, then I realized it was you that posted this video…..😂😂

Honest question: So, is Satan bound right now? If so, how is that the nations are still being deceived?

@CJP1012

7 ай бұрын

And if I understand the chart, then shouldn’t it be called praemillenialism?

I think you should add the binding of Satan at the cross with the Scripture

Part 2/2 I totally get the various views, so what I try to do is study commentary from the early Church Christians to see what they say. I think we can all agree there is ONLY 1 correct view. God is going to unfold the future 1 way; His way. He has dedicated a huge chunk of Scripture to this topic, more than any other and we know our GOD is NOT a GOD of confusion. So what is the truth? So I went back. I highly recommend a tiny book by Ken Johnson titled "The End Times by the Ancient Church Fathers" You don't have to agree with his added commentary but the book is a lot of the writings pre 400 AD commentaries by Church fathers on this topic. First, we need a framework: Both early Christians and Jews believe in a 6000 biblical calendar until the Messiah comes and the age of mankind ends. Barnabas, AD First Century “Therefore, children, in six days, or in six thousand years, all the prophecies will be fulfilled. Then it says, ‘He rested on the seventh day.’ This signifies at the Second Coming of our Lord Jesus, He will destroy the Antichrist, judge the ungodly, and change the sun, moon, and stars. Then He will truly rest during the Millennial reign, which is the seventh day.” Epistle of Barnabas 15:7-9 Commodianus, AD 240 “We will be immortal when the six thousand years are completed.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 35 “Resurrection of the body will be when six thousand years are completed, and after the one thousand years [millennial reign], the world will come to an end.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 80 Victorinus, AD 240 “Satan will be bound until the thousand years are finished; that is, after the sixth day.” Commentary on Revelation 20.1-3 Methodius, AD 290 “In the seventh millennium we will be immortal and truly celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.” Ten Virgins 9.1 What Jews believe: www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/607585/jewish/Significance-of-the-year-6000.htm "The Talmud tells us that this world, as we know it, will last for six thousand years, with the seventh millennium ushering in the cosmic Shabbat, the Messianic Era. Six days a week we work, and on the Shabbat we rest and enjoy the fruits of our labor; the same is true with millenniums. However, it is certainly possible for Moshiach (Messiah) to come earlier. And we believe, hope, and pray each day that this is the day when Moshiach will come... So yes, we don't know exactly when Moshiach will come, but we do know that it will be before the year 6000. So the Logical question is when is the biblical year 6000? Here's an extensive biblical calendar amazingbibletimeline.com/ Notice that the calendar puts Adam and Eve in the year 4004 BC. So 4004 years from Adam to Jesus. From Jesus to today 2023, so we're over 6000 years so throw that idea out. Right? Well, in 3 places the Old Testament gives us a calendar Genesis 7-8, Isaiah 66 and Daniel 9. Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened." 2nd Month 17th Day. Genesis 8: 3 And the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days (150 days) the waters decreased. 4 Then the ark rested in the seventh month, the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat." 7th Month, 17th Day. (5 months later =150 days means each month is 30 days). Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another, And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord. One new moon to another is 30 days x 12 months = 360 days per year. Daniel 9 shows us a 360 day calendar as well. So when we convert it from Adam to Jesus (4004 BC) it would be 3,946 years from Adam to Jesus. from Jesus to now it's 2023 years = 5,969 years. So 31 years to year 6000 which would be 2,054 AD. (although an interesting side note if we kept the entire timeline as a 360 day calendar the year would be 5,998). So from these quotes above we see a Premillennial view with a timeline of 6000 years before the 2ndComing/Ressurection and 1000 year messianic reign. Some other quotes people might find interesting. Just to give you an idea of the lineage of disciples Apostle John- Polycarp-Irenaeus-Hippolytus In Ken's book there are 67 sections of the writings of Hippolytus (born 170AD died 235 AD) all dealing with the teachings of early Christians on the end times. My question to every Christian who talks about this topic is where is Daniel's 70th week in your timeline? From Daniel 9:25-26 we see that 69 weeks of the 70 take us to the cross. Daniel 9:25 “Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem (Event #1) Until Messiah the Prince, (Event #2) There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; (Specific period of time 173,880 days) Verse 26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall [j]be cut off, but not for Himself; (cut off=violent death, suffer the death penalty) So from Event #1 which was 445 BC to the Cross is 173,880 days (69 weeks) to Passover 32AD. Knowing how to understand the 69 weeks we can know the 1 week left the 70th week is 7 years or 2,520 days exactly since we know exactly the days of the 69 weeks. My video on this is here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqWFl8ydnJuao7A.html Now verse 24 tells us the purpose of the 70 weeks “Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, (Daniel's people are the Jews and his holy city is Jerusalem.) To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, (these things are accomplished 1 way through Jesus) To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy. (the prophecy will be complete when the Jews and Jerusalem receive Jesus as their Messiah and anoint Him the Most Holy). One of the great errors I think many Christians miss with this topic is this promise. How will the LORD get the Jewish people to anoint Him as the Most High? In John 5 Jesus is speaking to the Jewish people in verse 43 "I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive." This is Jesus talking about the Antichrist. For 3000 years the Jews have been waiting for their Messiah, now the LORD used their rejection of Jesus to accomplish the cross. They had an image of a commander of a king not a servant, a carpenter. Now Paulin Romans 11 says the LORD has partially blinded them for a time "until the fullness of the Gentiles". They are blinded by GOD to the true identity of their Messiah. Jesus says "...if another comes in his own name, him you will receive." The term Antichrist is a Greek word. The prefix "Anti" means "in place of", "instead of", or "in opposition to" and Christ means "anointed one. Guess what Messiah means? Anointed one. The Antichrist could also be called The false Messiah. He is a person and he will be received as the Messiah and declared to be the long-awaited Messiah by the Jewish people in place of Jesus; the true Messiah. When you look at Matthew 24:4-5, 23-26 we see that there are false Messiahs, In Revelation 6:1-2 the first Seal is about a false Messiah. We see the Jews already believe their Messiah is here: www.israeltoday.co.il/read/israeli-rabbi-says-hes-already-holding-meetings-with-messiah/ Irenaeus (about 180 AD) who wrote his 5 volume works called “Against Heresies” who was a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of the Apostle John. “In 2 Thessalonians, the ‘falling away’ is an apostasy and there will be a literal rebuilt temple. In Matthew, the ‘abomination spoken by Daniel’ is the Antichrist sitting in the temple as if he were Christ. The abomination will start in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week and last for a literal three years and six months. The little horn is the Antichrist. Against Heresies 5.25 Ephrem 306 AD- 373AD in his writing "the End Times" Before the time of abomination of his desolation having been made legal, he takes the empire, and, just as it is said in the Psalm: “They have been made for the undertaking for the sons of Lot” Psalm 83:8 The Moabites and the Ammonites shall meet him first as their king. Therefore, when he receives the kingdom, he orders the temple of God to be rebuilt for himself, which is in Jerusalem, who coming into it, he shall sit as God and order that he be adored by all nations, since he is carnal, filthy, and mixed with worthless spirit and flesh…Because the very wicked serpent shall direct every worship to himself. Because he shall put forth an edict so that people may be circumcised according to the rite of the old law. The Jews shall congratulate him, because he gave them again he practice of the first covenant; then all people from everywhere shall flock together to him at the city of Jerusalem and the holy city shall be trampled on by the nations for forty-two months just as the holy apostle says in the Apocalypse, which become three and a half years, 1,260 days. The issue I have is how many Christians have read these documents? I'm not here to tell you what to believe but if Church history has taught us anything is that as people we are flawed and we bicker and split over different interpretations. My goal is to have resources like this enter the conversation because it's some of the earliest commentaries, closest to the Apostles we have. We also have the Dead Sea Scrolls that have commentaries as well. Not to add to the canon but if there are resources along with Scripture that helps us with the context I think we need to consider it. Hope this helps in some way. Take care.

So your putting the general resurrection ( John 5: 28-29) at Christ second coming? Who , and how are the saints in the first resurrection? Because the first resurrection CANNOT have unbelievers like the second ( or general resurrection)

I notice you have 7 A’s representing the many anti-christs. 7 is the number of completion. I see what ya did there 😉

@Mason_O

7 ай бұрын

What he do I’m missing it

My hat hangs on Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. Same as Mt11,12-13. The coming of John was the great division..The first passover after Jesus baptism, Jesus declared Destroy this temple and in 3days I will raise it up again.. Rev21 says after millennium in New heaven new earth there’s no temple for the Lamb of God is the temple.... drop out 1000yrs of Millennium and the 'short time' of Gog Magog battle and it clear the time of millennium start is neigh at hand

Okay, you have corrected me on a few key issues here . . . I guess I had postmillennial & amillennial backwards!!! Any view that believes we humans are going to make the world a better place so that eventually Jesus will see that we have earned His approval to come & reside with us as a reward . . . Is not reading the same Bible that I am!!! THAT is a solid "WORKS" based belief, all about humanity & their great achievements - just like Nimrod & the tower of Bible & YUP, that's in Revelation alright, BABYLON IS FALLEN !!! My other problem is for any view to completely ignore & disregard numerous OT scriptures from several prophets that support & are referenced throughout Revelation, the millennial Reign of the Son of God on the throne of David - the Jews rejected Jesus because they expected Him to be a great military leader & overthrow the Roman Empire - now can you possibly miss this - Jesus Himself confronted the Pharisees about His OT prophets . . . so either view that rejects the whole notion of Jesus reigning on earth for 1,000 years . . . I just cannot agree with. No matter what else you come up with to explain either of these stop-gap roadblocks for me, is just twisting & molding scripture to make it say what you want it too . . . so you force me to be PREMILLENNIAL because I just can't believe your interpretation of scripture . . . The entire Bible tells me that God created the world to establish a throne for His Son!!! Let me repeat that: The entire Bible tells me that God created the world to establish a throne for His Son!!! Both amillennial & postmillennial deny Christ reigning on earth for 1,000 years!!! Again, making the whole end time game about rescuing us humans, its about what God gave to His Son!!! What more needs to be said?

So I was raised as a typical Bapti-costal evangelical. AoG church, but literally nothing there that resembles what you picture when you hear pentecostal. (No speaking in "tongues", no running up and down aisles, no "slain the spirit" nonsense, etc). That's why I say Bapticostal, bc it's basically a baptist church, with a mix of modern Christian music and "old school" worship music. (I personally would be fine without most of the modern stuff). Around 2019 I started becoming more reformed. I now consider myself a reformed Baptist. After that I heard of post millenialism. Before that I didnt even know there were other views, I just thought the "Left Behind" view of eschatology was just "what the Bible says". Now, I lean more towards postmill, especially bc passages like Matt 24. One question Ive had about Post Mill is (and I think they might have the same view on this as AMill): Is Satan bound today or is he still "prowling like a lion, seeking those he may devour"? I do believe that Chrsitians can't be possessed, and I think most Christians (at least reformed Christians) believe that regardless of eschatology. So I guess I'm curious if Post mill / A mill believe passages like the lion devouring, or that Satan is the prince of this world, power of the air, etc... is that all talking about today, or did that end with the destruction of the temple and old covenant judgement? Or end with the resurrection/ascension? Is there a book that maybe addresses what all 3 views say about this subject? Thank you for the video!

Wow that was easy. I'm sold

Wait, you are saying full preterists are sub-Christian if they think he already came? Or are you talking about a position that thinks there is no return of Christ?

@toolegittoquit_001

7 ай бұрын

Pretty sure that was directed at those who do not believe in a second coming. I cannot see how anyone could subscribe to Full Preterism 🧐

Regarding "the Jews", how would these people be identified as Jews? I think in Paul's day we could say Jews (in the old covenant sense) existed. After 70 AD, their covenant having been replaced a generation earlier by Christ himself with a new covenant, I simply don't see a way for "Jew" to be a valid identity today, in the biblical and theological sense, except for identifying Christians as true Jews (see Romans 2:28-9).

@michaelseay9783

7 ай бұрын

Correct. Which means modern Israel as a country is a deceiving distraction.

I agree that the tribulation period began in the first century, by the time that the second temple was destroyed, in accordance with Matthew 24:15-21. That Christ will be _seen returning_ immediately after the tribulation " _of those days_ " to gather the elect, as stated in Matthew 24:29-31, corresponds to the description of the signs of the 6th seal in Revelation 6:12-13. However, the reason that I cannot fathom our present time as being within the millennium spoken of in Revelation, aside from the more obvious fact that nearly two millennia have passed since Christ died and great tribulation began (which thousand years in Revelation I tend to see as literal, in contrast to the "time, times and half a time" which I see as figurative, prophetic time; that being only the segment of the longer tribulation period during which the final Antichrist (Roman Papacy) did initially, actually reign theocratically for 1,260 years), is that, in Revelation, it is said that those saints who are described as having come out of the tribulation, those having been martyred, who will have been gathered at Christ's second advent which entails the first resurrection, will reign over/on the earth and will reign with Christ for a thousand years (Rev. 5:10 and 20:4; 20:6).

@jonasaras

7 ай бұрын

2 Thessalonians 2 indicates that the millennium is now. It has all the same events of Revelation 20, listed in the same order, with the addition of a time indicator

@mytwocents777

7 ай бұрын

@@jonasaras 2 Thessalonians 2 speaks about the fact that Christ will not return until after the man of sin has been revealed. Revelation 20 opens at a point after Christ's return and the first and second beasts have been destroyed, with Satan being imprisoned to commence the thousand years. I believe that the man of sin has been revealed, but Christ is not here yet. What particulars of 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation 20 are you talking about that are the same?

@jonasaras

7 ай бұрын

@@mytwocents777 1. There is a present day restraint of Satan. 2. A “lawless one” will be revealed at the lifting of the restraint. 3. There will be a rebellion/falling away at the end. 4. The restraint placed upon Satan in both chapters is that he is not able to deceive. You must at least admit that Paul teaches in plain didactic language 1. that Satan has been restrained throughout this age 2. in order that he may not deceive 3. as one day he shall during a little season prior to the second coming of Christ. That would proce that the millennium and the present age are one and the same thing.

@jonasaras

7 ай бұрын

@@mytwocents777 1. There is a present day restraint of Satan. 2. A “lawless one” will be revealed at the lifting of the restraint. 3. There will be a rebellion/falling away at the end. 4. The restraint placed upon Satan in both chapters is that he is not able to deceive. 5. Flaming fire out of heaven You must at least admit that Paul teaches in plain didactic language 1. that Satan has been restrained throughout this age 2. in order that he may not deceive 3. as one day he shall during a little season prior to the second coming of Christ. That would proce that the millennium and the present age are one and the same thing.

Jesus already came back in AD 70... Look.at the context

How do you have 87tousand likes and only 1833 views? I agree with amelliniasm wholeheartedly 😂😂❤️❤️🙏🙏

Where in your chart it talks about the one thousand years reigns of Jesus Christ here on earth? It does not seem to show that. Are you telling us that Jesus Christ's second coming is not going to happen when it says in the Bible that He will reign with us on this planet for a thousand years in the book of Revelation? Here is the Lord's prayer and what it says about Him reigning on earth in Matthew 6:9-13 Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. YOUR KINGDOM COME. YOUR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors. And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen. Satan Bound 1,000 Years Revelation 20:1-3 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a THOUSAND YEARS; and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till THE THOUSAND YEARS were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while. The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years on Earth. Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. AND THEY LIVED AND REIGNED WITH CHRIST FOR A THOUSAND YEARS. But the rest of the dead did not live again until THE THOUSAND YEARS were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a THOUSAND YEARS. Satanic Rebellion Crushed Revelation 20:7-10 Now when THE THOUSAND YEARS have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

I was going to ignore this one, but the "subchristian" comment was uncalled for and unchristian. I will be doing a full study on this video tonight and post on my channel, which is tiny tiny but there is so much wrong here that it needs to be addressed. I love his parting comment, "I don't want to debate" I bet you don't.

The part that I always struggle with Amillennialism with is with the thousand-year reign of Christ. During that time the Bible states Satan will be bound and unable to deceive the nations. Revelation 20:2-3 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. (ESV) Because of this I do not believe we are yet to Christ's Millennial reign and that it will be an event that occurs in the future. I still think Satan still holds a lot of sway and we are actually seeing a start to falling away of the Church in society at this time. I have gone back and forth with my views, and I am glad that salvation does not necessarily rest on our eschatological views. Currently I lean more towards the Pre-Trib, Pre-Millennial view but don't completely agree with the classic dispensationalist view. I can understand it both ways depending on what way I am interpreting the scripture. Neither hill am I willing to die on, lol.

@jonasaras

7 ай бұрын

SATAN’S BINDING IN REV 20 IS AN ALLUSION TO THE EVENTS OF REV 12 (1) REV 12 DESCRIBES A RESTRAINT PLACED ON SATAN AT CHRIST’S FIRST COMING. Satan wanted to destroy the woman and her child, but could not. Accompanying these events was a heavenly battle in which Satan was cast down from heaven. Might Rev 20 be a recaptitulation of his? In both places Satan is "cast down" by an angel or angels. (2) THE FIRST COMING OF CHRIST ELSEWHERE DESCRIBED AS A DECISIVE VICTORY THAT CURTAILS SATAN’S ACTIVITY (a) MT 12:28-29: Jesus described his own mission by a parable. He had come to bind (deo - same word as Rev 20:2) the strong man and carry off of what had been in his possession. (b) JN 12:31: "Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out (the same word, ballo, is used in Rev 20:3) (c) CF. COL 2:15, HEB 2:14-15 and 1 JN 3:8 (3) EVIDENCE THAT REV 20:1 IS A FIGURATIVE REPRESENTATION OF CHRIST’S VICTORY OVER SATAN AT THE CROSS (a) AT THE CROSS SATAN WAS BOUND - BUT NOT ABSOLUTELY. Similarly, Rev. 20 says that Satan is bound, but adds: that he might deceive the nations no longer. The word, ethn ("nations") was used by the Jews to designate the Gentiles. Hence, Rev 20 links Satan’s binding with the arrival of salvation for the Gentiles in the present age. i) JESUS DID COMMISSION THE MISSION TO THE GENTILES (Acts 26:17-18) ii) OUR STRUGGLE WITH EVIL POWERS (Eph 6:11-12) IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THEIR BEING BOUND: Jude 6, 2 Pet 2:4, Rev 9:14 all speak of the fallen angels being bound, awaiting punishment. But this does not mean that they are not active.

@WilliamKister

7 ай бұрын

@@jonasaras that's a lot to work out. Satan has been deceiving and I still believe he is deceiving people now. The literal reading is much easier to ascertain and there is no need for allegory here.

@jonasaras

7 ай бұрын

@@WilliamKister There’s nothing “allegorical” about it. The Jesus himself stated in plain terms that Satan has been bound and his house is being plundered by his disciples (Mark 3:27, Matt 12:29). Because Satan is bound in regard to deceiving the nations about the Gospel (Rev 20:3), Christians are “playing with house money” in our mission to make disciples of all nations. Jesus did not give the Church an impossible mission. The gates of hell (a defensive mechanism) will not prevail, the mustard seed will become a large tree, the yeast will work its way through the entire lump. His kingdom will have no end. Now, I do think that one could make a case that Satan has recently been loosed (Rev 20:3), but there’s no way to know that definitively. The duty of the Christian remains the same regardless. Grace and peace,

@WilliamKister

7 ай бұрын

You are using parables to interpret Revelations? And Satan is still around as stated by Peter. 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. (ESV) and John 1 John 5:19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. (ESV) @@jonasaras

@toolegittoquit_001

7 ай бұрын

Jesus stated that Satan was bound and Jesus received the keys of the Kingdom Since Satan is bound, the Word can go forth to all nations

The Bible is clear in the time of the end things go from “bad to worse”.

@toolegittoquit_001

7 ай бұрын

So when is the Gospel spread throughout the World ?

@joseph_miller

7 ай бұрын

@@toolegittoquit_001 It’s happening right now. Mt 24:14 is being fulfilled. Then the end. Read 2 Tim 3:1-5

@theworldisharvested

7 ай бұрын

Revelation is not chronological

@patriciahunter1566

6 ай бұрын

@@toolegittoquit_001 what do you think is currently happening and has been happening since the day of Pentecost?

@bigtobacco1098

4 ай бұрын

​@@theworldisharvested

While I appreciate your chart, my channel is 100% pre-Tribulation rapture, and I don't understand why believers can't see that the rapture is not a big U turn in the sky as Jesus returns to earth (2nd Coming). The born again church goes UP to heaven for seven years escaping Daniel's 70th week/the Tribulation and the events of Revelation 6-19 happen. The bride of Christ is not here after Revelation 4:1. In my videos I show the rapture verses and the 2nd Coming verses, and they are different. Also you say you are an amillennialist, which is error too. Hopefully you will look into this further. The church has not replaced Israel, and the church is promised to escape- Revelation 3:10-11. Any day now, millions around the world will disappear, bur probably only 2-3% if those who claim to be Christians in America are truly born again. Reformed theology is wrong on divorce and remarriage adultery, cessationism and usually infant baptism too. Maranatha.

To make what I said even more clear .... Ephesians 3:9 - "THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY" ... i.e. THE BODY OF CHRIST is the Romans 16:25 - REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY , kept secret since the world BEGAN !! The Rapture is ONLY for THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY, meaning the Rapture was ALSO a MYSTERY/SECRET !! The THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY is judge by Paul's "MY GOSPEL" ...SEE Romans 2:16 !! Paul taught a different GOSPEL than what the earthly Jesus and the twelve disciples taught !! .. See Galatians 1:11-12 Paul's Gospel does NOT work during the DAY OF THE LORD that is covered in the Book of Revelation !! Read Revelation, chapters two and three, and the letters to the seven churches in those two chapters ...TO ALL SEVEN CHURCHS... "I KNOW THY WORKS" ... The THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY is NOT judged by works .... See Romans 3:28 TO ALL SEVEN CHURCHS - TO THE ANGEL OF (CHRUCH NAME HERE) ... The FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY does NOT have an ANGEL !! Christ is over the FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY, NOT an ANGEL !! Now see Isaiah 13:9 about the DAY OF THE LORD, that is covered in the Book of Revelation !! ALL WRATH !!! Now see 1 Thessalonians 5:9 !! The FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY can NOT spend even one second in the DAY OF THE LORD !! Thus the SECRET RAPTURE of THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY BEFORE THE DAY OF THE LORD, to meet the LORD IN THE AIR !! NO ONE on earth will see it, ONLY the FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY will see it !! YES, the Rapture is a MYSTERY/SECRET , because the FELLOWSHIP OF THE MYSTERY was a SECRET !! That Rapture is called a MYSTERY in 1 Corinthians 15:51 !! The man in this video does NOT know what he is talking about !!

AllI Israel will be saved could refer to all Israel and gentiles who are final number of elect and now called the church.

The problem with this video is that it over looks or ignores these verses .... Matthew 15:24, Romans 15:8, Matthew 10:5-6, Revelation 1:4-7 - IN ASIA > 1 Corinthians 2:7-8 - Does he NOT understand Paul in verse seven of those two verses?? This man in this video has to reject a ton of scripture to believe what he believes !! This man does not understand salvation for today !!! CLUE: Paul could never be saved under the teachings of the earthly Jesus, and the twelve disciples !! WHY: Because he blasphemed the Holy Ghost in Acts 7, at the stoning of Stephen !!! See Matthew 12:31 !! Thus, if we go by what the man in this video is teaching, then Paul is a False Apostle !!

@jlettizard6465

3 ай бұрын

Stephen made a general statement to the Jews about resisting the Holy Spirit, not necessarily blaspheming it, and he was ‘Saul’ at that time. He was born again as Paul.

@Ambassador-For-Christ

3 ай бұрын

@@jlettizard6465 He was born again as Paul ??? Explain what you mean by that. As no such thing is said in scripture !!

@Ambassador-For-Christ

3 ай бұрын

@@jlettizard6465 I will just tell you, you do not understand Acts 7 KJV & John 3:1-10 KJV!!

@jlettizard6465

3 ай бұрын

@@Ambassador-For-Christ are we not a new creation in Christ? We are dead in our trespasses and are by nature children of wrath. We are saved by Christ and born again in the spirit. People in the Bible get new names on frequent occasion when they get saved.

@Ambassador-For-Christ

3 ай бұрын

@@jlettizard6465 Like I said, you are confused about John 3:1-10 KJV !! Being born again is only for Israel as a nation !! NO ONE has ever been born again !! Israel will not be born again until Christ returns to this earth - Acts 3:19 KJV !! Everyone is only saved today, and that is all !! It is a must that you understand Romans 16:25 KJV , to understand our instructions for today !! See also 1 Corinthians 2:7-8 KJV, with verse seven being KEY !! Do you even know what Gospel is being talked about in 2 Corinthians 4:3 KJV ??

Nonsense. What will be the objective of the rapture at the end of tribulation? at the same time that there is judgment of the world?? Think about it, Noah was saved from the tribulation at his time as it was Lot as well. See the pattern?

@joshjay6765

7 ай бұрын

1 Thes 4 says the dead in Christ will rise first, then we who are alive and remain will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. Since the resurrection is post trib, that means the rapture is post trib. Noah and his family were spared from God’s judgment while still being on the earth. What the rapture is, biblically, is being caught up to meet the Lord in the air, at the last trumpet, after the dead in Christ rise. (The first resurrection is in Rev 20-post trib). The pre-trib rapture is actually a 19th century idea. I hope this comment is beneficial.

@angelnunez9245

7 ай бұрын

@@joshjay6765 - incorrect, rapture is not post tribulation and I won’t be able to make you change your mind so we are going to stop this conversation here.

@joshjay6765

7 ай бұрын

@@angelnunez9245 1 Thes 4:16-17 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Rev 20:5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. We don’t need to continue the conversation, but here’s a couple verses for you. The dead in Christ rise first, and the dead in Christ are raised after the tribulation, when the Lord returns. If the resurrection is post-trib then the rapture is also post-trib.

@michaelseay9783

7 ай бұрын

@@angelnunez9245once you correctly translate Dan 9:27 and 1 Thessalonians, any future Rapture disappears.

14:39 "These are only things Jesus can do". This is false. John 20: 22-23: Jesus gave the Apostles the authority to forgive sins

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