Strive players: "we want more complex characters" Daisuke: B E T

@coomcharger6105

Жыл бұрын

Daisuke: *Summons Yugi Moto to make the character*

@adrianfahreza9477

Жыл бұрын

Tips triple gold coins while at it

@themur880

Жыл бұрын

The skill floor and ceiling is both astronomical but this seems like a character with a gameplan that's so far out of the field of what everybody is doing that skills you learned while playing before can't be applied and skills you learn while playing can't be applied to anything else. And I think it all starts with awareness of your deck. Given you've got three test cases I'm curious to see in a few years if optimal play isn't going to be constantly keeping internal count across all 3 decks/cases.

@SKD_TRASH_at_Blazblue

Жыл бұрын

Asuka R#: I have more moves than Dante & Vergil from mvc3 :P HAHAHA OOPS

@buckythebucket3903

Жыл бұрын

​@@themur880 or y'know.... Topdecking

"Ey dude lemme check my moves rq" "Sure bro" *2 hours pass*

@GamingCreed47

Жыл бұрын

"Ey bro, you done yet?" *Screams of pain and anguish *

@alpha-tomahawk532

Жыл бұрын

@@GamingCreed47 *Proceeds to play asuka with his default button presses without using his spells *

@harrylane4

Жыл бұрын

my man's specials list is starting to look like a tekken guide

@coltonmorris9640

Ай бұрын

Asuka is a simple character. I mean, look at them, they only have 4 specials! 3 of them dont do damage!

Asuka mirrors are going to be genuinely fun to watch. Heart of the cards

@Blt9983

Жыл бұрын

My mind immediately jumps to Smash Ult Hero dittos, and I personally can’t wait to watch

@ObiAlmighty

Жыл бұрын

As a Skullgirls fan, I cannot wait to see the Peacock dittos

@demongodcrush

Жыл бұрын

More like heart of the pages and bookmarks.

@noctiknight8618

Жыл бұрын

pages*

@theotherjared9824

Жыл бұрын

Top deck your way to victory.

You can tell this is a character Daisuke has been wanting to make playable for more than 20 years, and now he finally got to go all out on implementing him into the game.

@yuuotosaka2834

Жыл бұрын

Too bad we cant see his insta kill since he is in strive (i miss this mechanic)

@alter9933

Жыл бұрын

@@yuuotosaka2834 Guilty Gear Community: "I mean yeah, Strive simplified the old characters too much, has bad singleplayer content, a sh!tty lobby system, trash UI, and no instant kills. BUT HEY, at least we got rollback netcode." COPIUM

@MrPugrex

Жыл бұрын

@@alter9933 SEETHE

@yuuotosaka2834

Жыл бұрын

@@alter9933 they really be doing the meme "its evolving just backwards"

@sakuraadachigaming

Жыл бұрын

@@alter9933 can you people not be annoying for five seconds

Cannot wait until Asuka explains Pot of Greed again.

@zhaoyun255

Жыл бұрын

Naw, he will just Mystic Mine your ass.

@Lunatic89097

Жыл бұрын

What does that do?

@zhaoyun255

Жыл бұрын

@@pistachio-cat1043 In this Test Case, if one player has more HP or Tension, he/she cannot use Special move, Dash, Jump or super. If both player has the same HP, destroy this Test Case which will NEVER HAPPEN. LOL

@coomcharger6105

Жыл бұрын

I SUMMON POT OF GREED TO DRAW TWO CARDS FROM MY DECK

@GanguroKonata

Жыл бұрын

The first tier zero GG meta

Can't wait to Askua to summon Exodia mid round

@biggerboss5785

Жыл бұрын

foolishness frederick my books have no pathetic spells preapre i use the mix of the forbidden one!

@ServantBerserkerZero

Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the crowd to shout "BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON" at EVO

@leithaziz2716

Жыл бұрын

"Screw The Rules! I Have Magic!"

@erhanjpg1467

Жыл бұрын

Instant Kills are back

@YDG666

Жыл бұрын

even this is far less complicated, even a parrot can do this lol

This breakdown is giving me the same vibes as the Mario 64 “half A press” video.

@deboytommy2818

Жыл бұрын

Yea... Only they don't explain "paralel universes" before showing you why they build up speed for 12 hours, they explain that afterwards.

@elizabethagudelo7179

Жыл бұрын

"all of asuka's spells are great pokes, but first, we have to talk about parallel universes"

@megamanzero5when895

Жыл бұрын

There's no such thing as a "half A press". A wise person named Henry taught me that

I love it. He should be absolutely ridiculous. He's been the main force behind GG's story for the longest time and he finally makes his playable debut after many years. He should be absolutely insane, imo.

@LordDragox412

Жыл бұрын

Max: I wish GG characters were more complex Devs: Hold my beer Max: *I REGRET EVERYTHING*

This feels like one of those characters that are explained so intricately that it sounds like a nightmare to play, but when you actually get your hands on the character and try him out, all the moves make a lot more sense.

@jackrockstar1

Жыл бұрын

And there will be like 4 moves that are almost always the ones people use as opposed to spell switching all the time.

@Kasaaz

Жыл бұрын

Yah. The odds that more than a few spells will be useful is low. Trying to get the most out of all of them will be for the hardest of hardcore specialists I imagine and won't really be a big edge over just figuring out what works for you. The motions will become reflex. You do have to make a lot of decisions during a round, but I don't think it's as execution heavy as people fear.

@Drawfill

Жыл бұрын

@@jackrockstar1 Eh, disagree on that one, high level asukas will learn to use each spells in their own way. Maybe on floor 7 people are gonna use 3-4 spells.

@ladong644

Жыл бұрын

@John Delaney reminds me of when I thought Nine the phantom was extremely complicated but at the end you basically just need the big rock move or the low mix-up move lol Asuka is definitely weirder with his specials canceling into things and costing both mana and hp, if you pair that with Strive damage being this high he'll be hard to manage. I also still don't understand how spell casting works but seems to be preset or rng

@lostvayne9146

Жыл бұрын

no what your actually saying is people will streamline complexity into a workable flowchart. if you have 60 moves like in tekken, people will just distill it to 10 moves that works for them.

All right, class, open your textbook, today is Part 3 of playing Asuka in Guilty Gear Strive. Now, if you look at Figure 34.B and calculate this equation -

@Ramsey276one

Жыл бұрын

"I need a tutor for Test Case 3..." Bulsara... [Sigh] Miss Aria, if you don't have any extra work tomorrow...

@SorrowsPrison

Жыл бұрын

Teacher what's an equation 😂

@pawsouth2897

Жыл бұрын

​@@SorrowsPrison excuse me mister, gorilla classes are two doors down the hall

@SorrowsPrison

Жыл бұрын

@@pawsouth2897 You're right what was I thinking I'm sticking with Leo

Gotta love the juxtaposition between Asuka and Happy Chaos, both That Man. Asuka has unique mechanics out the ass, has a million things going on, and is generally trying REALLY hard to be complex. Happy Chaos just has two unique resources and seems simple on the surface, but his technical execution is insane.

@coomcharger6105

Жыл бұрын

One has knowledge the other has gun

@darienb1127

Жыл бұрын

Asuka is a wizard with OCD, and HC is a wizard with ADHD.

@boxtupos7718

Жыл бұрын

Yea, Happy Chaos nerfs himself; Dude uses a replica gun to fight. He wants the "drama".

To be fair, if you're an all-powerful wizard with the power to do almost anything; you would fight with a bunch of different spells that all do something completely different. Makes sense for him.

@myass1547

Жыл бұрын

Counter point >Happy chaos

@leonardoeneria3100

Жыл бұрын

Invoker in fighting games basically

@alpha-tomahawk532

Жыл бұрын

Happy chaos, his master and the one who discovered magic: fuck it, a CONVENTIONAL FIREARM (in a world where all firearms are made out of magic) I-no, all powerful "bug of this timeline" made god: fuck it, *sick guitar solo to blast your brains out* Axl, all powerful another "bug of this timeline" made god: _Oi m8_

@cn4090

Жыл бұрын

​@@myass1547 Bang

@Danothyus1

Жыл бұрын

the classic DnD wizard dilemma: learns 30 spells. use 3 most of the time.

Asuka matchups will be a hell of a ride… for both players

@skyblade7438

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a knowledge check, it’s a knowledge exam

@kR-qj7rw

Жыл бұрын

Dont mater Potemkin bustaahh

@justjuniorjaw

Жыл бұрын

For the Asuka : It's fiddling a random zoning tool. For the opponent : It's dealing with whatever bullshit is coming your way

@captainmega6310

Жыл бұрын

I thought this guy was going to be a quirky zoner but he's actually a yugioh player

When Max said, "uh oh the announcer is talking slower..." I almost died😂😭. Just when I thought DMC Dante had a ridiculous amount of moves in UMvC3, Asuka's like "hold my beer".

@catnumber1538

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, Dante always has access to his kit and doesn't have to draw his moves like cards

Who knew that Break A Spell would come full circle and end up being advice on what to do against Asuka, since you can quite literally break them with your fists

@estebanacostaolivera3232

Жыл бұрын

I WANNA FLARE!

@Patrick-cm5sl

Жыл бұрын

@@estebanacostaolivera3232 THIS IS NOT OVER

@michaelcastillo619

Жыл бұрын

@@Patrick-cm5sl WE ARE IN THE LIGHT!!

@Blt9983

Жыл бұрын

Rev 2 fans, you did not disappoint lmao

Basically, his Test Cases are decks, and his spells are cards out of those decks.

@Xseleon

Жыл бұрын

@@RicochetForce They overcomplicated the presentation because they made an overcomplicated character lol. It's rather fitting imo

Asuka solidified “final boss character” as an official archetype

I like how max compares asuka to an mmo class at the end because my first reaction when I saw the spell decks was "wow I wish astro or summoner in ffxiv played like this"

@xenikos99

Жыл бұрын

Back when astro cards used to actually do different things

@Cassapphic

Жыл бұрын

@@xenikos99 tbf most of the effects were "boosts damage in some form" or "help someone recover from a resource mistake"

@luckymango636

Жыл бұрын

​​@@xenikos99 it wasn't that deep tho. It was 99% just fishing for red card

@33link333

Жыл бұрын

@@luckymango636 Yeah, fishing for the damage up card for most jobs, and the spell speed card for BLM. It was a cool idea, but the mechanic wasn't that good.

I was hoping that Asuka would be a ridiculously complicated JRPG villain, and I'm not disappointed.

@Ramsey276one

Жыл бұрын

*CRITICAL* [One More]

@nonamepasserbya6658

Жыл бұрын

@@Ramsey276one Smirk

@madmicro157

11 ай бұрын

*MISS* [Enemy Turn]

@Ramsey276one

11 ай бұрын

@@madmicro157 Sol: Most unfortunate for you!

You can make a whole new game out of this guy. It's like playing an RPG character in a fighting game.

@KigaiOkasu

Жыл бұрын

RPG characters in fighting games? Arcsys should get on that! Oh wait...

@BushinRyuCat

Жыл бұрын

I just think ASW is making a test model for a new Vs Marvel game. Asuka is the alpha Dr. Strange.

@EzKay_PX

Жыл бұрын

while you be playing Guilty Gear Asuka is playing 3D Yu-Gi-Oh

@belot217

Жыл бұрын

*Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories has entered the chat*

@waow2859

Жыл бұрын

Asuka would fit nicely into the Touhou fighting games lmao

Makes you long for the days of the Behemoth Typhoon lmfao

@cameronmortimer8476

Жыл бұрын

IN THIS BOOKMARK

"Wanna play the boss character!? Fine! Here it is! Good luck!!!" Genius move from Arc Systems

Asuka being Happy Chaos' student really puts into perspective how powerful HC really is.

Asuka a Yu gi Oh player, brought several decks to the battlefield

Honestly, this character just makes me think of Hero from Smash Ultimate. But they reduced the luck a bit and added more strategy and management.

@Triforce_of_Doom

Жыл бұрын

It's legit Hero's down b doing a fusion dance with Wright's evidence from Marvel 3

Asuka defo feels like a limit test on what and how strive takes these kind of kits, I feel like with season 3 we're going to see more complex and interesting kits (and hopefully older character updates, thats my pipe dream)

@kumaradio5414

Жыл бұрын

I need faust pogo

@s0api__229

Жыл бұрын

@@kumaradio5414 I want the kabari followups back personally

@RazorusR3X777

Жыл бұрын

A.B.A for Strive

@plyme5297

Жыл бұрын

In an interview that came out shortly after bedman's announcement (i don't remember which website published it but i swear i am not lying) They said that they didn't wanna release the hard characters first like they did in season pass one since (i assume) it scared away the larger Crowds from buying the season pass, so for this season they specifically stated that they wanted to release the easier to access characters first in season 2 (and that worked out pretty well for them imo) so i assume they will follow this pattern continuing into season 3 with whoever the few first are are gonna be relatively simple with a massive curveball at the end of the season

@hambor12

Жыл бұрын

Honestly Zappa fits into both the pool of Historically High-Maintenance Gameplay and Veteran Who Hasn't Returned Yet i maintain that he could be redesigned to not only be themed to newer Jojo parts in terms of aesthetics but also update his Shameless References in his ghosts maybe having an animatronic ghost, 9ft tall woman ghost, VHS invisible ghost, etc. serving a dual purpose of both fitting in with Strive having these updated/modernized aesthetics while also allowing for his ghosts to have different functions by way of being diffferent in theme

I love that from a pure input standpoint he isn't complicated at all and then when you look at what the inputs do.... OH LAWD!

This is what happens when people complain about GGS characters being too simple.

The thing that got me into Guilty Gear and maintains it as my favorite fighting game franchise even above Street Fighter is that it does Rule of Cool the best. Everything about it is just so sick, and Asuka feels like a culmination of that.

This feels weird. Asuka LOOKS complicated, but the more I watch this guide, I feel that Happy Chaos when he's not being played lame and, in my tiny-brained opinion, Goldlewis feel more complex than Asuka. Like he's gonna be hard af to master of course because he's gonna have a huge amount of improv, but playing him casually just comes down to paying attention to what spells you have in stock and you should be mostly fine.

Asuka R# is going to be the nightmare matchup to remember.

@kumaradio5414

Жыл бұрын

Just wait till Asuka Slash and Accent Core

“My only complaint is that Asuka is too simple” said no one in the history of guilty gear.

I like how Max further explained that while he likes character complexity, that it can be a bit too much and overwhelming, and there's a delicate balance. Characters can either be too simple and not much fun or they can be too complex and you rather not even bother with them, or the game for that matter.

@MrShisuto

10 ай бұрын

THIS. Asuka is a perfect example of the latter, with people straight up not buying him at all despite his massive relevance to the story and amazing design. Sure, with time you can learn to manage his playstyle, but why would people want to be constantly exhausted setting up and executing moves rapidly in their minds while also trying to micro manage 3 different things on screen? This is why the majority dropped Asuka after the novelty wore off and went back to their mains.

I like how in TCG terms you can switch your Asuka deck based on the matchup. Invest into either dumping your deck with multiple chant, float spells with bookmark so you can build and ideal hand, or side deck into the appropriate matchup with change test case.

Poor Max, he still hasn’t mentally recovered from the Mario 64 Half-A press video lol.

I’m honestly surprised he’s not even more complex, I fully expected him to have all of this + 12 other unique mechanics and resources to manage

@yoannsoh4009

Жыл бұрын

in the meantime people still can't deal with mids... :D

@paperluigi6132

Жыл бұрын

That’s if he was in XX+R

I can already see people yolo gold burst, do the 2nd super, and come up with crazy spell combinations from all 3 decks that somehow is a TOD...and I'm all for it.

This man got the power of God, Anime and MMO games on his side

I feel like a large chunk of Asuka's spells do boil down to projectiles that you dont have to think much about.

@alpha-tomahawk532

Жыл бұрын

And then you have staffs that accelerate, deaccelerate, or pull in every kind of projectile... and then you have to think how that combos and which projectile better with which staff and what you can do afterwards... and of course it matters because it's guilty gear and each projectile has some kind of special property or frame advantage... great, that's about 1/4 of a case out of 3 of them done, we're doing great progress!

@LordDragox412

Жыл бұрын

@@alpha-tomahawk532 Easy to learn, hard to master. A noob playing Asuka will have a good chance to win a match by just spamming random spells. A pro Asuka player will die of old age before mastering their craft, but if they're immortal, they'll win most of their matches. 'Cause you know, a cannon of glass can't withstand a kick to the ass >:P

@korewa_Matoya

Жыл бұрын

Bookmarks are basically his hand

First.... Asuka R# prepare to break your own mind. While trying to understand/translate his command movelist. This man came to duel with yugioh cards. I'm starting to understand the whole system now. Just spam. 🙂🙂🙂 Mods. I'm gonna have gonna have some fun with the mods.

This is a really good simulation of being told the rules to a trading card game

Shang tsung from MK and Amakusa from Samsho also fall under this. Mages/sorcerers are just badass.

I’m pretty sure I’d have an easier time understanding Asuka’s moveset and gameplay than whatever I learned in the second half of chemistry class in college this year.

I love these types of high speed spell slinging characters in fighting games. Wizard from yomi and Asuka are both so epic. Need to try him out asap

I love how the first 2 test cases have specific functions, and then the third one is just "I dunno, here's a bunch of weird shit."

Yo I heard you like card games, so we put a card game in your fighting game, so now you can shuffle while you shimmy.

When I heard “you can check the move list,” that’s when I knew they went overboard with this guy. It’ll be fun to see people go crazy with him but dear god is it gonna take some time

When designing Asuka, I'm pretty sure they just said, "what if we made a Warhammer 40k codex into a character?" And this is what they came up with.

@gabfloro3609

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like Cegorach and Tzeench had a hand in designing this character.

@HijiriBee2nd

Жыл бұрын

More like "what if we made a character that plays like Hisoutensoku"

The missle knows where it is by subtracting where it is from where it isn, or by subtracting where it isnt from where it is (whichever is greater) it obtains a difference or deviation.

@Noturbizns

Жыл бұрын

The missle does not know where the fuck it is.

Seems an interesting take on the zoner architype. Instead of just staying away and shooting projectiles, you've a management system that both keeps you on your toes and gives good mixup opportunities to throw the opponent off.

All these move names, mechanics, and inputs are like the slowed down version of what non FGC people think they hear when they hear the commentarry for an intense match.

Thank God, i was waiting for this!

Down back forward plus heavy slash activates the spell card Pot of Greed. Its effect is unknown.

Watch Asuka throw out a Thwack from out of no where or even a magic burst and 1 shots you.

I want to see a pro TCG player who's also good at fighting games main him. I want to know how they'd apply TCG principles to this character.

Super excited to hit up the Balance later to look up what my Asuka opener is along with finding out my BiS, pots, and optimal food.

We love you max!

A good guilty gear player can learn this but can't learn how to properly shave

While watching that Starter Guide I audibly sighed "Jesus Christ!" when the narrator started explaining that there are 3 different pools of spells and when the spell cheat sheet came up.

This character feels like the epitome of a half button press

@dovakin6265

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

Asuka feels like a Xrd character that made into strive by mistake

@crimson-foxtwitch2581

Жыл бұрын

i’d actually say blazblue tbh

@ratedr7845

Жыл бұрын

that's what we like

@ruikirisame1744

Жыл бұрын

​@@crimson-foxtwitch2581 i thought about that too but blazblue always had unique characters. some more than others. this is more like bedman or jack-o level of gimmick

If at any point you found yourself screaming as loud as possible mentally, then Daisuke's job is already done. Probably hands down the most complicated character we've ever seen in not just an Arc System Works game, but just in any fighting game. The best I can think of that probably comes to mind for "complex characters" (outside of ASW titles), probably would be Gargos and/or Eyedol from KI since you had their movesets for bosses that did some crazy things like "teleport punches, minion summoning, and smack yourself to change movesets." I loved watching them in action, but man if we see some players pick up "That Man" and hit Top 8, we are going to see some really insane stuff.

Every time I see his Starter Guide I see a new move, that I haven‘t realized before lol

This dude is going to be a menace, i feel it. I am getting HC vibes from peoples reactions (pre-release). Too complicated, too much management etc. Well, people figured out HC and they will figure out this guy, and if someone was able to master all of these spells, using them as they come in optimal ways, I can see it being very strong.

Just the special cancels alone have my brain hurting

Asuka: Its time to duel, Kaiba. Sol: Who the hell is Kaiba? Asuka: EXODIA, OBLITERATE!

Asuka is big brain and several things to keep track of he's a character with tools for every situation but with rng luck is the key but for me I make use of the cards in my hand

The kind of character I’ll never play but will love to watch get played by a master

"random bullshit go!" moment intensifies!

I think Asuka will be okay to pick up as he only has a couple of inputs and most seem pretty safe from the gameplay, the complex part is doing any of his stuff well and memorizing the spells, test cases and what to cancel to when throwing spells, I know that my dumbass will accidentally sacrifice my health for mana when I don't need to and die from it

Ahead of SF6's release, I've been getting a bunch of fighting games I missed out on (most recent was KI) and was pondering Guilty Gear Strive until I noticed Mortal Kombat XL on sale. Never played a GG, but was into the original MK trilogy back in the day, so I'm hoping the MKX file isn't still bloated with MK11 ads 😂

pretty cool i can use tension to charge up my mana. Been practicing not relying on absolute defense or (whatever it was called) as much and ive had some extra tension.

As a mage main / faust main for all fighting games this seems great even though i haven't played strive in some time

Hero in smash plays almost like that. You gotta use a special to open a menu with spells and pick the best one, or cancel to use again , while managing mana.

They somehow made a character more complicated than Nine the Phantom

@Ramsey276one

Жыл бұрын

I guess he's the Eleven, then? XD

The timing of that punish 0:39

I'm glad that fighting games are finally providing a character that all the FF14 Raid Fanatics can finally play! Good on Arc Sys for bringing players in from all over!

This reminds me of that old visine commercial with the old guy with the glasses 🤓. It makes me fall asleep like he was Jigglypuff 😂. Shout-out to anyone sticking to this character and hope success for you .

"Try mixing the opponent up with forward and heavy slash. Or exhibitor metron" 😂😂

Hisoutensoku prepared me for this character

This is the character that Desk would use and make up insane Touch of Death combos with.

Not gonna lie this mans pretty fun so far even if I have no idea what I’m doing half the time! Also that theme is a bop as per usual

Whenever Asuka +R uses a spell.... something good happens.

One thing I don't see anyone mentioning: Yes he has big massive list of spells he can use, but what nobody has pointed out is that they specifically call out him having moves on 4 and 6 for all non-Dust attack buttons; he will have hands down the most command normals out of any character that's ever added to the game unless they start using 1 or 3 normals again

god his throw animation is so fucking cool

This is gonna be that character that everyone tries very few main

Comparing him to an MMO character is pretty on point. It feels like you logged into your friend's level 140 character in an MMO you've never played and you go do your first raid.

@Maximilian Where is that opening song from ? What is it called ?

Already I love that character!! He reminds me of Rinwell from Tales of Arise.

Seeing some Krollo with the bookmarks

When we getting an MMO class that fills it's hotbars in real time with single use abilities while you battle? Sounds fun!

the closest i have seen for a complicated character that felt sensible was Dante in MVC3. he has bajillion specials, but its easy enough to understand the execution based on what everything is attached to move-wise.

Mama there goes that man

I can finally count cards in a fighting game! Thanks Daisuka

You know that meme when someone is trying to think and there's a lot of math equations appearing and fading everywhere. That's me with this character.

That Man literally came to the game ready to duel with cards in hand. He's going to be a handful for both players..

Absolutely hit the nail on the head. They put a BlazBlue character in Guilty Gear Strive. Dude looks so nutty, can't wait to try him out! Also as a Leo main, I cry XD

"Character Ability Manager" really does sound like a job title, which feels accurate, since you probably need to practice like it's a full-time job to truly master Asuka.

FINALY a Guilty Gear Character. Unique crazy mechanics, style and rocknroll.

GGS players: can we get someone a little more complicated? *lights dim* Daisuke: Son, you know once you start there's no going back... This mean total commitment. Once you begin the path, there is no leaving the path. Are you sure you're ready for that? I mean really ready?..