This project was complex but fun to build. If you want to help me make more big projects check out my Patreon page: www.patreon.com/mariushornberger There's also additional content. Thanks to everybody who's already there.

@marcus_w0

Жыл бұрын

Hey Marius. What's the toolchanger used by this build? Is this a universal solution or only available for the Hammer-Spindles? EDIT: Oh, I spotted it - it's a stepcraft one. I'd love to have one of those for a standard spindle - but I guess I would have to spend the extra 400€ for the mechatron one.

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

see the video description

@TheDayssincethedoor

Жыл бұрын

@@MariusHornberger Would you mind posting your code for the big tool length probing somewhere? I have been dealing with this exact problem for some time now and your solution is brilliant. I am using a completely different controller so the code will definitely be different, but having a place to start would be amazing.

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

Nein, falls du ernsthaft Interesse hast, kontaktier mich per Mail

@Mrshotshell

Жыл бұрын

I would recommend having all tools use the large tool pickup path just incase a large tool ends up where it shouldn't or doesn't have the large tool tag

It's the year 2213, Marius has CNCed himself a new body, he has just completed his 3723rd version of the spoil board, definitely his best one yet.

@bazingabert3346

Жыл бұрын

who says he doesnt have the parts already ?

@karlriley1314

Жыл бұрын

@@bazingabert3346 True, he is working on it now, hehe

@helmut8697

Жыл бұрын

😂🤣🤣😂 i've wet my pants

@CDehning

Жыл бұрын

Time machine into the future cam

@aduibar4595

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha

I really enjoyed the “like it’s nothing cam” (also, awesome tool changer!)

@godamkeras4144

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@sirculito15893

Жыл бұрын

Wow, SMH is here. Collab vid?

@rainz9567

Жыл бұрын

@@sirculito15893 they both live in completely different countries

@thecarlob_007

Жыл бұрын

I was just thinking of this other yt channel called stuff made here and voila.

@mx96288

Жыл бұрын

great seeing you here!

Marius, you are, unequivocally, an inspiration to all of us. I'm old enough to be your dad and if I lived another 3 lifetimes I don't think I could get close to your sheer brilliance in conceptualising, designing and producing. Not only that, you're presenting it all for us in a second language!! Bravo to you sir, and bravo to your parents!!

Amazing project. Little note from a dev : You didn't need to make the distinction between a big tool and a small tool. You could just always make the big tool move even for small tools. It doesn't matter for a small tool if it makes the big tool move.

@fuzzybeverage8887

7 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing

@S___________D

7 ай бұрын

Marius went swiss calibration on it haha

@ohyou_6599

7 ай бұрын

My thought on it was if the tool changer were to fail, the large bit removal movement will throw the bit at the workpiece and damage it. Doing separate movements reduces the risk as a small bit movement will just leave the bit behind in the holder safely

@Stevie_evie

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I thought that too. Also wondered why he didn't put a round plate that's as wide as his widest tool on top of that measuring 'button' then the tool will always push down on the plate, which in turn will depress the measuring tool

@spambot7110

5 ай бұрын

​@@Stevie_evie i'm guessing he doesn't wanna mess with the actuator of the measuring button, since if you increase its width, you're increasing the off-axis force beyond what the designer intended (also then you'd have to figure out how to attach it)

Marius, what a tremendous amount of work and great enginering. I am an engineer myself by proffesion, but seeing you do this, takes my respect. Considering, 2 years ago, you were making shelves and those little "simple" projects and now achieving this, my deep and honest respect and compliments. Only a few will do this and this demands great perseverance. You're really a champ.

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot.

I can't imagine how much it must have cost to buy all those specialist cameras.

@websitesthatneedanem

Жыл бұрын

😆😆😆

@aspmos

Жыл бұрын

The lathe beard was the best of them

@RichardHurd

Жыл бұрын

Have to check the bank balance cam

This is the pure art of engineering. It really inspires people to start planning more advanced projects themselves. Keep going, Marius! I am looking forward to what you can do with this machine.

That is absolutely some of the best machining and engineering I've ever seen! I can't believe that Hammer hasn't reached out to you to add that tool changer to their lineup. You've done all the work, they should just pay you a huge amount and employ you full time! Amazing!

@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936

Жыл бұрын

I would get that patent applied for so fast........ unless this sort of thing has been done before... ?

@jodrafting

Жыл бұрын

send them the video for him. whoever they are

@snaplash

Жыл бұрын

@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 Lots of tool changers have been done. A simpler way for the manufacturer to do it would be to have the gantry move further back from the work area, where a fixed tool rack would be mounted. No need for the tricky retraction stuff.

Wow, you just always raise the bar, the fact you engineered this from scratch is quiet unbelievable, you are a huge talent Marius, great content and great guy, can’t wait for the new apartment over engineering vids 😜

@BenMitro

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it better!

@thunderstruck1078

Жыл бұрын

He's German, so yeah, I will fully admit that "the master race" concept was not a myth of some cookie guy 100 years ago. Settle down, I can say that, I'm a Slav, LOL. This was impressive and beautiful. The perfection in its purest form!

@berkasal4526

Жыл бұрын

@@thunderstruck1078 above their somewhat refined social structure, the country has a good education system, which is mostly free. If you are a self motivated, highly intelligent individual with a positive attitude, you can get a lot back from this. Doesn't matter on your race.

@thunderstruck1078

Жыл бұрын

@@berkasal4526 It matters. Not on the level of individuals, but group differences do exist. That's undeniable. Every ethnic group builds a different type of society. Who gave the Germans a great education system? Did it fall from the sky or had they painstakingly built it from the ground up over "a millennia". Others might disagree, but I think they simply build the best type of a society. Japanese are very similar. Like Germans of the Far East. English and French too, but they are kinda tired of having sovereignty and self-determination, so unfortunately both of those groups are on their "way out" (not much more than a couple of hundred years). And BTW, I think you might have misunderstood me, I never said no one else can succeed. That's preposterous and obviously false. What did you mean by "you can get a lot back from this"? I did not quite understand that part.

Marius du bist ein Genie... Hoffe du kannst mit dem Wissen auch in deinem Job irgendwann mal gläzen... Bewerbungsmappe brauchst du nicht , die ist ja online. :)

I see that this is a year old, and you've probably already thought of this, but just in case... Use the "Big Tool" subroutine as the standard. Just do it for all the tools, eliminating several lines of code. Install a plate on top of your tool measuring device that is slightly larger that your largest tool, then eliminate the "Large Tool Measuring" subroutine from the tool measuring process.

Dear Marius, the tool sensor (top right of the table) could have an aluminum disk 3/16" tick 2.5" diameter glued/screwed on top of the original top, so it can measure any kind of tool, no matter the diameter. Even your 3 points larger tool will sit neat centered over the disk, and avoid you to play with software to measure odd tools. Simple and easy.

In my experience, projects like this are developed and tested by a team. The fact that you are the team is very impressive! Well done!!!!

@whirled_peas

Жыл бұрын

sometimes too many heads is too much overhead. Maybe that's where the term comes from.

@martinmajewski

Жыл бұрын

No true! His father looked from the side to ensure proper drill alignment! Duh! 🙃

@td3drummer267

Жыл бұрын

Germans are the best engineers

I’m sitting here with a huge smile on my face watching this amazing young man do quite extraordinary work. Your skill, ingenuity and presentation skills are a pleasure to behold. Can’t wait to see what you come up with next, though this one will be tough act to follow.

Your y to he first guy making tools I watched all g to he way thru your videos and copy them all Your a real Gem

I felt that “cool…” lol We’ve all been so deep in a project that you can’t even really celebrate when it finally works because you’re exhausted and sort of irritated that it took this long to finally work… so the most excitement you can muster is “Oh.. cool.” hahaha I had that reaction recently when I changed my own tire on my motorcycle and had to align the wheel and tension the chain and everything myself with no experience, half the tools I needed and no motorcycle stand… I was bleeding, sweaty, exhausted, bruised and when I finally saw everything aligned perfectly I literally went “Oh.. nice.” and I dropped my tool on the floor and went inside for a “snap”.. that’s a snack nap.

@justinc2633

5 ай бұрын

for me its "holy fuck finally"

Einfach nur beeindruckend! Ich freu mich schon auf die nächsten CNC-Videos und den Tastkopf!

This is some next level engineering. Watched the whole thing because it was very interesting and well done. One note about your final test however - your before ATC cut was a one sided cut - the bit was not cutting a slot it was cutting on an edge. Your after ATC cut was cutting a deep slot. You actually expect the cut quality to be better in that scenario - the bit is essentially supported on both sides by the material leading to very little possibility of chatter. It's much more load on the spindle, but it should be a great surface finish. I have no doubt that it's much more capable now, but it wasn't an apples to apples comparison. Regardless, amazingly well done!!

21:42 that arc down was chefs kiss

Nicely done. You could add a carriage that will handle hundreds of trays that can be exchanged. That would give you unlimited number of tools

Yes, I would like to know more about your 3D probe. Please do a video (or two) covering it if you haven't already.

If you have 3 outputs on your board, you could multiplex them (maybe?) so that way you have 3 bits you can play with = 8 possible controls.

@Paul-rs4gd

Жыл бұрын

Cool idea, but it would only work if you only ever needed one output activated at a time. I wondered whether you could use the time dimension - essentially doing a single or double click on an output to provide two signals from each output. It's a kludge, but it might avoid a lot of mechanical complexity.

the dad-meter is excelent especially with his glasse's zoom

Awesome job Marius. I know that all your time and perserverence is worth it in the end. I have watched many of your videos in the past and have always enjoyed your content. Thanks again.

Words can't describe the satisfaction I get from watching your videos, Marius. Great project as to be expected from you, a real gem in a KZread landscape full of rather questionable amounts of thought and precision.

Absolutely fantastic Marius. Enjoyed every minute, and laughed, a lot, too! Love your channel, been following since the early days.

This is one of the most awesome things I have seen in a long time! Congratulations on this amazing project!

Marius my man! Awesome job with this project and great edit with the video! Can’t wait to see what amazing things you make with this quite capable cnc

Absolutely brilliant, and always so funny. I'd only warn of maintaining the collets every so often in case they built up with compacted dust, and begin to push the tool out - that was a problem I had at my workplace. Congratulation again on a successful upgrade.

@hiandrewfisher

Жыл бұрын

He could use the air nozzles to blow it off every time

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the hint!

@peterkuhlmann426

Жыл бұрын

Hmm why don't just actuate a limit switch with the gantry and shift the tool rack via pneumatic?

Would really like to see the touch probe build, as it would improve my own workflow massively as well! Otherwise, great job designing and building the upgrades :)

@HunGredy

Жыл бұрын

As someone who programmed coordinate measuring machines with touch probes in the past, I would be absolutely insterested to see how he created his own.

re: cleaning Marius, may I suggest you build a "cardboard dam" around your projects? It's like an inside-out cardboard box with the top cut off and the bottom pieces folded out to rest on the table. I've been using them for years to keep the chips at least on-the-table. The walls only need to be as tall as the "chip throw."

Dude, you are on another level! Awesome work!

Phenomenal project Marius! Corporations have teams that build products like this and you did it on your own. You're a terrific engineer and not so bad comedian. :)

At 21:44 I really went "Daaaaamn this is cool" Great work from a great mind. I can't believe how advanced your projects have gotten. Any workshop nerd would give A LOT to have a machine that looks and works this well!

videos like these are amazing, love how technical this was

Congratulations Marius! I've been following your work for quite some time now. Since when he made a project for the dust collector (maybe he remembers), he moved on to building his CNC and now, finishing with yet another beautiful automation in terms of care and use of technology. I want to thank you for sharing all your experiences as they have been very valuable. Congratulations on the great projects ok? BEAUTIFUL WORK!!

My father was an engineer and, like you, seemed able to make just about anything with his lathes and drills. I'm no engineer myself, and often have only the vaguest notion of what you are doing, but I am always impressed by your skill and problem solving abilities.

Wow! What a neat, practical and well thought out project, that's presented in an informative and entertaining way. Kudos to you Marius! The company that supplied your CNC should definitely hire you to design and test new hardware for their machines.

Just brilliant! Be proud of you and your skills. Incredible good work!!!

Grußtig, Marius! at 19:45 you showed us what an engineer says 'he gets it right." Here is what an engineer says when he makes a mistake. I was rehabbing a rental house with Al, a retired tooling engineer for Western Electric. He overheard me exclaim 'Oops!' when I drilled a hole in the wrong spot. "Danny, when an engineer makes a mistake, he says 'HMMMMMMM'."

Ich finde es immer so befriedigend wenn ich sehe dass du auch bei den unscheinbaren Details immer versuchst diese möglichst gut auszuführen, egal wie unnötig diese eigendlich wären, da der Perfektionismus an den Stellen keinen Einfluss auf die Funktion hätte 👍 Bin selber ein Perfektionist, evtl sagen mir die Detailarbeiten deshalb so besonders zu :)

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

Danke. Wenn du wüsstest was es noch alles an Details gibt, die nicht im Video sind. Macht halt einfach Spaß

I don't even have a CNC ( but I'm researching a tiny one ) but found your video fascinating on all fronts. Thank you for making such informative and entertaining content. Cheers, JAYTEE

Could have just bought one instead of all this nonsense. just kidding. I am in awe that you took the time, effort and expertise without giving up on this project. Keep up the good work !!

Absolutely amazing. Well done! This was a joy to watch. Thank you for sharing!

Awesome work! Maybe make all tools "big tools". It doesn't harm and reduces complexity.

@tjurzyk

Жыл бұрын

And most important you don't have to remember to mark new tool as big anymore.

As a programmer i just love seeing things get animated with auto systems. Its a weird paradox, we build our self into irrelevance, yet we regret nothing. Cool work!

@ediroliveira2892

11 ай бұрын

user mach3

I don’t know much about CNC but even I know that cut at the end was ridiculous! I’ve never seen a CNC blast through material that fast… it felt wrong and kinda fake, but it just proves that good engineering and quality tools make a world of difference!

Amazing job and also documenting the process.

Pressed like before seeing the video. I’m confident it will be absolutely awesome.

This is the exact type of project I have on my list once kids are a little older to help and not crawling. I should have done one back when I graduated engineering school when all my mechatronics and vibrations knowledge was fresh.

@itigg

Жыл бұрын

Couple items you might be able to add in the future. Prob tool each time it picks up (especially useful for tiny tooling) to verify that it’s not broken and within the length range expected. Also, now that you don’t have the need for the manual tool release lever you could develop a cover for the front of the dust chute to potentially help improve dust collection.

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

I implemented a tool break detection before a tool change/drop, but disabled it during the video. The dust shoe v2 is almost done. Fully 3D-printed this time. The fact that you think of these features tells me that your tool changer will be pretty cool once you find the time for it.

@itigg

Жыл бұрын

@@MariusHornberger I suffer from knowing the industrial methods and over engineering stuff for home projects. Such as wanting vacuum clamping with adjustable pucks like a Format CNC machine or an CNC controlled adjustable vertical table for machining edges at various angles.

Marius, Du bist der Knaller! Daniel Düsentrieb ist wiedergeboren :) danke für die Inspiration

This is the best thing I saw on KZread for a while now. I wish I was able to make such an amazing upgrade on my DIY CNC. This was mind blowing

Always, and I mean always, impressed Marius. You really outdid yourself this time and it is good to see the official "Marius Hornberger Engineering" taking its rightful place = )

@duubtuub3071

Жыл бұрын

@John Smith I saw "Marius Hornberger Engineering" just in scanning the comments, and quickly came back to see if, in fact, he had set up a company. What is the expression? "Shut up, and take my MONEY!!!"

Good work Marius! :)

Wow, what an amazing upgrade. Well done!

Evil man.. in 15 years, not having an ATC has been the biggest deficit in my CNC. Now you have me thinking about trading my old machine for a Hammer CNC,. Yes, IMHO the touch probe is worth a video...Beautiful work..

Excellent as always!!! Just a thought: If you used the "big tool" movement in your software for "all tools", then you could simplify your tool table (where you tell the software if the tool is big or not) by not needing that attribute. All of the tool changes would now be the same. Thanks!!

@darrenstamos

Жыл бұрын

Well said!

@simonmills2375

Жыл бұрын

Aha, but if he did that it would slow down normal tool changes

Just found your channel, amazing stuff, I cant get over how creative and skilled you are, kudos. Everything looks 100% professional I have watched 2 or 3 videos now and I cant wait to see more. keep it up, love the humor as well!

Wow! Supercool! Realy, thanks for sharing the concept

Marius, this is absolutely amazing. Out of curiosity though, for how you set up different movements for different sized bits - why not just have the tool holder move up high enough to reach the end of the holder only, then move out of the way but for all bits? As in, the movement programmed for your surfacing bit, just use that movement for all tool holder changes. I suppose the only disadvantage I can see is it taking a tad longer for standard bits.

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

The way things are now came from the order I wrote the code. The big tool routine would work for everything

@Infrared73

Жыл бұрын

@@MariusHornberger I was wondering the same thing. Essentially the case for the larger tools was added after the fact. I assume the trick with length is also tied into that code which makes it a bit more difficult to streamline. Not enough benefit to do it.

@Dingbat217

Жыл бұрын

@@MariusHornberger I was wondering how the big tool routine knew when to stop probing the length of the tool when it tries to detect one of the flutes on the tool, did you tell it the min length of the tool or are they all sort of the same length so you know when to retract and look for one of the other flutes? Oh and that stop spindle and lift it above the surface routine could do both things at the same time so you could speed that up a bit too! :-)

Hey Marius! For some extra soft close goodness you could get some damping grease and apply it to the linear bearings. ToT has a great video on _rotary dampers_ that demonstrates the stuff. Actually, I'm a moron. The gantry movement makes it soft close 😅

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

I actually programmed a soft close gantry movement for the last couple millimeters

Well done young man. Thanks for sharing!

I really like the effort and thought you put in the alignment. Well done project mate!

Amazing!! Question for you on your defining big tool small tool, would it be easier to treat all tool as big tool?

Brilliant project and the cut quality with the bits is amazing now - can't wait to see the control arm project. Also, while the 1:5 lever arrangement is impressive I'm just curious why you didn't go with an electromechanical version - I know you said that you had a lack of outputs on the controller but if you are moving the gantry back to change bits anyway then a simple microswitch would have lost you only a few millimetres in cutting space and you could have controlled a stepper motor or servo or air piston. That said the mechanical version that you can up with is pretty impressive and works great.

@Mage_Dragon

Жыл бұрын

Cost I would think is why it's fully mechanical

@urgamecshk

Жыл бұрын

@@Mage_Dragon a micro switch is like 7$

Glued to every second of it!... A definite "YES" to the DIY probe project please. Thank you so much.

man has every skill that is needed to do best job possible

26:40 Wouldn't it be a better idea to just increase the area of the sensor? Maybe attach a bigger sensor plate at the top somehow?

@MariusHornberger

Жыл бұрын

That was my first intention, but would have taken more time to make a precise plate than writing the little code

@NicosLeben

Жыл бұрын

@@MariusHornberger I guess you're right about that. I probably would have tried to glue a thin stiff metal disc of known thickness to the sensor.

Wow , that was a incredible process to watch . Nice job!!!

Fantastic piece of engineering. Not watched any of your creations before, but I will now subscribe as I love the approach and engineering.

Marius du hast es echt drauf! Ich bin begeistert von deiner Arbeit, diese Liebe und Perfektion. Werde auf jeden Fall anfangen dich zu supporten :)

one of the best projects, so satisfying to watch your automation

Congratulations on your project completion, and its success. 😊👍 .

This was so exciting to watch... Wow! Congrats!

I've watched a couple of his videos by now. I like his way of filming and editing his videos. Keep it up 👍

Huge congrats on this, especially saving the extra cut space in the process. You are going to save so much time machining due to having multiple size tools at one time without babysitting.

Pro tip...just set it to pick up every tool like the big ones, that way you don't have to program different movements per tool. One movement to fit all. Maybe next time lol

Amazing! The production and the project both

This is such an awesome project. Such a clever setup to overcome some very difficult challenges.

This is AWESOME. FELDER should pay you for all the wonderful improvements you made to their CNC and offer this improved machine to the world . Felder; please, are you listening ?

Amazing upgrade! I will keep this in mind when I decide to do the same to my cnc.

Incredible engineering and design skills! Enjoyed this episode.

Absolutely amazing design and engineering - thanks for sharing 🙏

That was a super pleasurable video to watch, alot of work but so much gain. You now have such a powerful machine to multiply your project capability

That was a beautiful project. Truly awesome. Loved it! 🙌🙌

Mind-blowing project Marius, amazing work 🙌

I love your projects….they are really inspirational! Thank you!

Great job.. so much fun to watch the hall project

Great project! I guess I will follow your videos and projects from now. Congrats again👏👏👏

awesome work, engineering and presentation

This is insane. I can't even comprehand how difficult would have been. Great job!

Love it, I work at the Felder Group and I’m amazed by the ingenuity that went into this project to make the HNC even better. Keep up your amazing work!

Unreal! It's just so elegant.

Marius, I have enjoyed watching your ingenious projects over the last two years, I have to say, this automatic tool changer is the totally cool! I cannot believe how you design, manufacture and assemble all of these wonderful innovations!!!! Job Well Done!! Thank you!!

Marius nice project. You are a great engineer. Congrats on the completion of this project.

Echt beeindruckend was du entwickelst und in welcher Qualität du unterwegs bist. Da kann man nur ehrfürchtig zuschauen und staunen! Danke für die Einblicke und weiter so!

What a very good mod Marius! Hat’s off to you. 😊

You could share the dust collection control channel. You don't need dust collection when changing tools. When you want to change tools, clear the head from where the tool rack will move to, then turn off dust collection, which will also move the tool rack in reach.

You did an outstanding job. Well done.