This guy came to Greece to visit the island of leros to film a video in a city that no one knows about instead of going to Mykonos.

@joemamagaming9121

Жыл бұрын

my man mykonos is for the gays lemnos and naksos are the big guys

@fralencemelograno

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to say that Leros is known to anyone who studies WWII history, if not for the buildings for the Battle of Leros.

Fun fact: in Italy doesn't exist any kind of greekphobia and Italian people never hated greeks. Many Italian towns (included mine, Kyme/Cuma) were estabilished by greek settlers. All Italian students studying philosophia at School have a whole year dedicated to greek writers.

@panagiotaminnielover2787

Жыл бұрын

We don't have italophobia either but we have a national day at 28 of October and we know that Mussolini was the bad not the Italians,we love Italy and Italians

@aokiaoki4238

Жыл бұрын

It's a lie that these buildings were negligent. They continue to be used up the 70s as public buildings, but Leros was bombed for 53 days during the WW2 many had damages and these buildings today are just quite old and unsafe as Greece has earthquakes. Secondly these buildings are not important, they were cheap, small and architecturally simpler, even in your video you can see how they compare. See 2:04 and 2:07 ( by the way, this church was bombed, restored and operates today)

@Luca_Schiano

Жыл бұрын

@@panagiotaminnielover2787 during that evil Regime the 28 October, on the other Hand, they celebrated "the March on Rome", the public event that meant the beginning of the fascist dictatorship (22/Oct./1922). Still today some fascist Groups use that date to celebrate Mussolini's taking of the Power. All the best for all my greek Friends.🇬🇷🇮🇹🇬🇷🇮🇹🇬🇷❤️

@giulianoaugusto681

Жыл бұрын

@@panagiotaminnielover2787 we also have a national liberation day from fascism 25/04. It was a sad Italian period for all of us. 🇮🇹❤️🇬🇷🇮🇹❤️🇬🇷

@azazel166

Жыл бұрын

It's alright, we only hate those who side with the soft underbelly.

Lakki was part of the dedocanese islands that fell under Italian rule in 1912 alongside other major islands such as Rhodes / Rodi. The latter being extremely Italianised. These greek islands fell under Italian rule 11 years before Mussolini took power.

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

The city of Portolago/Lakki was built in 1923. What’s your point?

@peterbound2119

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ my point is that the Italian colonisation / occupation of the Dodecanese islands didn’t start by Mussolini but 11 years earlier

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

@@peterbound2119 I never said that Mussolini started the colonisation of Dodecanese Islands right? Italian occupation first, then a town built under Mussolini.

@hmthisisit

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ You didn't but I could see it giving off that impression maybe to someone who is unfamiliar with the topic.

@lefterismagkoutas4430

Жыл бұрын

The history part needs some work in the way he narrates it.

Asmara, Eritrea also has a lot of modernist architecture from the Fascist colonial period too - they also let the Futurists try out some of their architectural pet projects there lol

@danielefabbro822

Жыл бұрын

Asmara is still today called "The Little Rome". We Italians had a mission during our colonial period that was carried out also by fascists even if in more brutal ways. That mission was to develop our colonies and turn them from a losing assemble of huts and dirt fields to a civilized land of prosperity. In order to make it clear that we Italians are actually doing our part to enrich this world. We would have continued even without the fascists (also because they ruined this work instead of improving it) and we are still trying our best to make things better, as we not only trying to help foreign countries but we actually using our armed forces to carry out humanitarian missions more than wars and military operations. If we don't stabilize this world and give to everyone the chance to prosper, then this world will eat us as well as these poor masses of desperate that are just asking for a chance to live better. We have ears to hear, hands to work, and that's what we are doing since the foundation of our modern nation in 1861. Unfortunately, British beated us in ww2 and set free countries like Eritrea and Ethiopia. Leaving them by their own. Ethiopia today is a country in ruins, afflicted by rebels and terrorists. Somalia is an warlords land always in war and possibly the worst country in the world. Left without help by the "liberation" of the britts and by the successive hits inflicted by the Americans. Eritrea, that was considered a jewel among our colonies, today is considered the "North Korea of Africa". The Allies have ruined and wasted all our work. And as result those people are suffering for endless struggles and poverty. Maybe one day, when our numbers will increase and our economy will be stronger, we Italians will be able again to recover those countries and turn them again into jewels. But for now, they have to deal with the "gifts" of the Anglo-Americans.

@AsiaMinor12

Жыл бұрын

@@danielefabbro822 Italians are good for nothing but running away. That's why so many Italians live in the Americas, because their mother country failed them. And your country isn't going to get it's numbers back up, it's over for Italy. The population is going to decline for a long time. Italy can't even project power in the horn of Africa, it doesn't have the demographic, technological, economic or militaristic advantage it had in the 20th century.

@ysti6552

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately. Mussolini's fascism is also visible in these buildings. Italian Architecture is very Beautiful, see the ancient monuments in the Vatican and all the ancient ones in Rome, All are very beautiful And radiate culture and Democracy. Those in Mussolini's Leros are like prisons, fascist. Everything must be torn down because it is fascist.

@FOLIPE

Жыл бұрын

@@danielefabbro822 I hope you are joking

@danielefabbro822

Жыл бұрын

@@FOLIPE no. Do you have eyes to read history books? Then read them.

I'm glad they've understood the historical importance of preserving such a city.

@jsproduction3839

Жыл бұрын

Could do with renovations though as the guy mentioned it as well

@naevan1

Жыл бұрын

when you have a country turmoiled by constant wars ( 3 balkan wars, 2 world wars, a 7 year military dictatorship, constant war-readiness with fellow turkey ) and all in all poor living standards, the last thing they could care about in the 20th century was to preserve the buildings from an oppressor who was there a few years ago. This is not Switzerland or Netherlands.

@naevan1

Жыл бұрын

Also centralized governenment of Greece does a great job of not preserving stuff outside the capital's and a few other locations perimeter 😅

@baller84milw

Жыл бұрын

@@naevan1 Yeah, I heard that post-wwii they tore down a bunch of traditional architecture to build the crappy housing that you see around Greece today. Unfortunately a lot of countries around Europe have that sort of nonchalant attitude towards tearing down their architectural heritage.

@naevan1

Жыл бұрын

@@baller84milw they had to somehow give houses to people that are accessible. I'm not in favor of it, but if you are a poor country which suffered a lot from war you have to make ammends somehow. There could have been some better solutions at the very least for sure, but Greece also had a huge influx of millions of greeks from modern day coastal Turkey and costantinople in 1920's. All I'm trying to say is if the country is rich and the population is in fair condition, all preservation of monuments is a must, but definitely not a given, especially when we're talking about 1930 buildings and not some ancient site

Incredible. As a Greek I had no idea, thank you so much for this.

Actually all of the Dodecanese islands follow this architecture, as they were part of fascist Italy up until 1943 when the Nazis took over. (The Dodecanese islands were finally given back to Greece in 1948.)

Love the content! Hope people will soon see your videos by the hundreds of thousands - your production value deserves it!

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping it too 😍 thanks!

@yankyener4491

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ Keep up the good work 💯

@PeterPumaPeter

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ looks like it’s about to happen. You channel is getting huge. Just a matter of time now. Greetings from MONTRÉAL, CANADA

Last year we were on vacation in Rhodes. There is also a village settled by Italian fascists in the middle of the island (Italian name Campochiari, current name Eleousa), then keeped as ruins. There is also a Villa of Mussolini (although he never visited it). I was surprised by this fact.

Interesting video, cool production for a small channel! Keep it up ❤️🇬🇷🇪🇺

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

Rise n grind!

I didn't know of this niche of Italian history still alive on a Greek island. The last examples of modern Italian architecture outside of Italy and still standing are usually located in Africa, in their ex colonies, but the Dodecanese islands were also an Italian possession till the end of the war. Too bad they are often neglected. Appreciated your work and commitment here, man.

@edoardogalli7326

Жыл бұрын

True! Asmara is a beautiful city, with a lot of italian-like buildings

@ysti6552

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately. Mussolini's fascism is also visible in these buildings. Italian Architecture is very Beautiful, see the ancient monuments in the Vatican and all the ancient ones in Rome, All are very beautiful And radiate culture and Democracy. Those in Mussolini's Leros are like prisons, fascist. Everything must be torn down because it is fascist.

In your most recent vid you kinda jokingly accused yourself of using Johnny Harris’ name to draw attention to your sub, but I’m very thankful you did. This is excellent content and you deserve the flood of new subs, including myself

Cinema? That beast of a building looks like a townhall-thingy. Great vid!

I find this city really gorgeous, the Italian regime was really good in terms of its architecture

@MBP1918

Жыл бұрын

Art Deco is quite amazing to be honest

@frafrafrafrafra

Жыл бұрын

Yes, in Italy a lot of the "fascist architecture" is still standing, the most famous example being the squared coliseum

@MBP1918

Жыл бұрын

@@frafrafrafrafra simply too good looking to be torn down tbh regardless of who made it

@frafrafrafrafra

Жыл бұрын

@@MBP1918 totally agree, obviously all of the fascist symbolism has been torn down, same thing in Germany

@muscledavis5434

Жыл бұрын

I personally think its ugly. A weak fascist parody of classical architecture. Any old Roman ruin looks better, even if only 1 column of it is still standing.

Man! This is interesting stuff. Subscribed.

It was nice to see a video devoted to Leros. It's where my late mother came from. I visited the island with her in 1988. Lakki is where the ferry calls into port. I rode around on a rented bicycle one time, admiring the buildings. I never knew about their history, though. I thought the Greeks constructed them, but I later found out (from my barber, of all people) that it was the Italians. Notwithstanding the history behind them, I am sad to see they have been allowed to crumble. Yes, they should be repaired soon.

I love how his accent can change so fast “Art Deco” almost sounds American out his mouth

@hans7856

Жыл бұрын

I guess he's Dutch. He has a thick accent, but trying to imitate an American

Had no idea about this, super interesting!

In some Islands like Rhodes, Chios ecc there were italians minorities , of Venetian Genoa, Amalfi descendants from Crusades, sadly they embraced fascism and After 2WW they were forced to leave Greece, Oreste Lionello(former dubber of Woody Allen) was born greek

Subscribed and will be recommending to all my mates. If we ever needed to be more well educated on the history of our civilization and it's long term ramification, that time is now.

Going beast mode with GEOlayers AND Google Earth Studio. ❤‍🔥🐲💯

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

Standing on the shoulders of giants ;)

Amazing! This is a story I never knew of! I did know though that the Dodecanese had the Palace of the Knights templar.

Another place with plenty of this architecture is Asmara, Eritrea.

Goede content man! Keep it up 👊

Great video! Very Tom-Scott-esque!

You well deserve 100k subscribers, thank you!

Kudos to you, amazing job of a passionate person. an inspired fella, from Italy :)

Hot take: compared to anything you can see on that or any other island in Greece those buildings are a complete eyesore. 🙂

@XMarkxyz

Жыл бұрын

I think it is a nice style and with it heavy classical ispiration blends in well

@Vjeimy

Жыл бұрын

@@XMarkxyz soulless, cold and a mockery of everything classical, I think it stands out like a sore thumb.

@AsiaMinor12

Жыл бұрын

@@Vjeimy you just described fascist architecture in general. Germany wanted to build a hideous dome on Berlin that would have aged horribly. Glad they never had a chance to build their silly buildings that mocked classical Arch.

@SpartanLeonidas1821

Жыл бұрын

@@XMarkxyz Very Ugly if you ask me. Other Italian Architectural Influences found in Greece are much more Beautiful than this junk! 😅

Rhodos was also under italian rule for some years and also there you can find this kind of architecture

Damn, now there's one more town on my bucket list. I'd love to take some pictures there.

''Shows series of abandoned buildings of Italian Origin'' Meanwhile, Cow at 3:29 "What you looking at, bruh?''

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

I think that was my favorite shot 😅

Amazing video thanks.

I have never heard of this specific place as a Greek, but I remember my father telling me about how the islands that belonged to Italy have the best streets in Greece because the fascists executed someone who tried to put less concrete than promised at the contract

@TeutonicEmperor1198

Жыл бұрын

ε εδώ που τα λέμε, δεν είχαν και πολύ άδικο σε αυτό οι φασίστες; οι άνθρωποι που κλέβουν λεφτά από το δημόσιο πρέπει να πληρώνουν

@NoName-xc6cg

Жыл бұрын

@@TeutonicEmperor1198 συμφωνώ εννοείται, να τον εκτελέσουν παραείναι σκληρό όμως

There is also not many white buildings with blue windows because Leros is not part of the Kyklades. It's part of the dodecanisa, so the architecture is going to be different anyways. Not all Greek islands are like what you describe. That's just the kyklades. There are some hundreds more that are habited and don't look like that...

Wow… I didn’t know this story even if I had studied this historic period extensively at the Uni

The architecture is amazing

really good video, commenting for algorithm :))

I wish your videos were longer😭

eccelent work! i am Greek and i had no idea about this!

I like the architecture on the island. The planning reminds me of soviet architecture and streets a little bit but without the depressing look of the brutalist blocks of flats.

"ark-uh-puh-lah-gooh" lmaoo love your channel

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

English is hard yo 🙃

@jezusbloodie

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ mee eens

wow the views look really beautiful

I am greek and I had no idea this place exists (I have been in the islands only twice in my entire life).

very nice video, you sound really Dutch. :) !

Slight correction: The ionian islands were never under ottoman control.

@user-mika11

Жыл бұрын

Corfu was the only Ionia island that was never under ottoman control .All the others Ionian islands were conquered by Ottomans in 1479.The Ionian Islands were under ottoman control for a short period of time except of Lefkada.The island of Lefkada was under ottoman control from 1479 until 1684.

@ChronosHellas

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mika11 Zakynthos and Lefkada was never under ottoman occupation only the ports for some time but nothing else

@user-mika11

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronosHellas you are wrong Lefkada was under under ottoman control for 200 years . Lefkada was conquered by Venetians in 1684.Zakynthos was captured by ottoman empire in 1478 but conquered by the republic of Venice in 1482 .

@ChronosHellas

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mika11 The Zakynthian port was caught not the land learn some history mate

@user-mika11

Жыл бұрын

@@ChronosHellas Lefkada was under ottoman control from 1479 until 1684 all the books about the history of Lefkada say this . During This period the capital of the island was Santa mavra, ottomans made a aqueduct and nowadays some places in Lefkada have Turkish names like pasa and kuzudeli... The House of Tocco ruled various territories of in western Greece as counts Palatine of Cephalonia and Zakinthos and Despots of Epirus in the late in 14th and 15th certuries .The Tocco lost all their territories from Ottoman Turks in 1479.Zakinthos was passed to Venice with a treaty in 1484.(tupaldu-antoniou,2021).The Ionian Islands were under the control of the republic of Venice with short or longer interruptions of Ottoman occupation (Papadia-Lala ,2004).By the way the Septinsular republic(1800-1807) was established after a joint Russo-Ottoman fleet captured the islands and ended a two year rule by French Republic.The new state was established to be nominally under the sovereignty of the Ottoman Empire but protected by Russian(Gekas ,2016)

The buildings look like the unfinished sketch of a famous painting.

I wonder if you could get access into the mansion? If it was just left abandoned, that could be fun to walk around in

good video :>

Im a fan of your channel from greece

Razionalismo is closer to the Modern movement (Le Corbusier and others) more than to ArtDeco, on top of the modernist way to think of architecture there was some neoclassical style for good mesure to relate to the Roman Empire mainly for rapresentance buildings

If I remember, you can find some building also in Karpatos

Super leuk! Blij dat je jezelf hebt gepromoot in Tuschinski 😁

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

Haaa dank!

It's pretty "fun" for me to spot fascist era buildings in Italy, and how they might be either smacked in the middle of other era buildings like in Venice in the "Santa Croce" Sestiere (district), or in the middle of nothing in the countryside railways stations or mailing offices/public offices. There's a very good academic book by David Forgacs, which I highly recommend if interested in social marginality, called Italy's Margin, which somewhat explores the architecture topic -even tho is mostly focused on other aspects- in the first 2 chapters: the first one about suburban areas since the Unification until the '80s, and thanks to my professor we even talked how the fascist regime designated Venice as its showroom and how a city that looks suspended in time to an untrained eye, was actually heavily modified and shaped by the regime. And the second one about the Colonies, with a major concern on Eritrea and Ethiopia. Especially the second chapter, by giving first hand accounts or letters, etc. Really helps understand what was on their minds, and how they thought to be righteous in their doing. And to come back to your very good video, Lakki reminded me of a lot of italian cities like Latina, or even a lot of buildings of my own hometown, but especially of another "colonial" city, Asmara in Eritrea. And it's quite striking the difference in between Lakki's approach to this particular era architecture, separating from the ideology and appropriating it (as rightfully so), being empowered by it's unicity. And the "Italian" approach, to repaint, or "bury" from sight with post-war buildings, or repurpose while glossing over the "early" story of the building itself (which is not a total trend, as demonstrated by the EUR suburb you mentioned), which actually represents the whole relationship post-war Italy had with Fascism, to hide it in plain sight, perhaps under the rug, not totally accepting it for what was it, nor totally denying it, making it be able to always be there haunting in various violent and non-violent shapes. Sorry for the huge wall of text, but really great video, 4 minutes that made me think a lot!

@XMarkxyz

Жыл бұрын

There are a couple interesting things to add: in Venice while for example the city parking is truly of the fascist era, and you can very well tell by just looking at it, the train station although having a very similar style is post-war and the original design was revised multiple times, the EUR itself was only completed during the Republic; I guess our first rapresentatives were smart enough to recognize good architecture

@frankbrown9618

Жыл бұрын

Grazie Daniele per questo interessante intervento e soprattutto per il riferimento bibliografico. Io sono molto perplesso quando ci si riferisce all'architettura razionalista denominandola "fascista" tout court, lo ritengo un errore. Il razionalismo è emerso come lo stile prevalente della prima metà del novecento con un percorso che - a ben vedere - è piuttosto lungo e fonda le sue premesse teoriche ed artistiche ben prima dell'avvento del Governo Fascista. Occorre tenere presente che l'evoluzione del discorso artistico è quasi sempre indipendente dagli specifici accadimenti politici ed anzi, spesso li anticipa intuitivamente. Semplicemente, quindi, per i progetti pubblici che vennero commissionati dall'amministrazione Mussoliniana, gli architetti usavano quello che era il linguaggio architettonico del momento. L' errata associazione tra razionalismo ed autoritarismo politico ha segnato il destino di molti edifici ed opere urbanistiche interessanti, lasciati cadere in disuso ed in rovina. Il tema dell'architettura e della urbanistica Italiana dai primi anni venti sino alla fine degli anni cinquanta è una vera e propria miniera per i ricercatori della materia. Solo in Italia più di 100 nuovi insediamenti urbani - la maggior parte oggi misconosciuti - per non parlare di quanto possiamo vedere in Eritrea, In Libia, in Albania ed a Mogadiscio, in Somalia oggi purtroppo distrutta dalla violenza terroristica (le rovina della Cattedrale Cattolica pesano sulla coscienza collettiva dei somali che ne stanno chiedendo la ricostruzione). Questo bel video ci ricorda anche Portolago. Ci si potrebbe fare una importante pubblicazione internazionale e non è detto che non ci pensi seriamente... ;-) Ciao!

There is a bunch of samples of Razionalismo in Ethiopia and Libia

Its almost like playing a game of Axis & Allies 🌍

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

And a bit shorter luckily ^^

Very interesting

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

What you say are youself

Fascinating I thought that this style of architecture was exclusive to Asmara in Eritrea.

@Alesxandros

Жыл бұрын

No in italy is in every city

jesus this is inteesting

Honestly they were on to something(WITH THE ARCHITECTURE). It's such a beautiful style.

An amazing video! The invasion was a part of Italo-Turkish War (1911-1912). Italians could not stop the Ottoman resistance in the Ottoman Tripolitania (The latter was invaded by the Italians) so they decided to invade some of the Ottomans islands in order to weaken and disturb the empire. even though the peace treaty signed in 1912 promised the Ottomans to take their islands back, Italians refused to do so, taking advantage of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

Interesting island

Same in rhodes town

in Lero was build a large military airport from where several air strikes were sent against British Middle East locations in 1940s

I served my army service in a military base in leros !!

Actually many buildings in Kos and Rhodos have this type of architecture.

@edoardogalli7326

Жыл бұрын

Because they were under italian rule too

My mother was born in Sabaudia, Italy, which is a town built anew by the fascist regime in the 1930s. It is part of Latina province, itself a city also planned and built anew by them. They all feature the same rationalist, toned-down neoclassicism in their public buildings, and open spaces take inspiration indirectly from Italian futuristic works that were popular in the 1910s-1920s, which coincided with the nascent era of Italian fascism.

great content. just a minor correction. the island is located in the Greek archipelago of Aegean as you said at the end. not in the eastern Mediterranean.

Me who knows that island because of HO4 : *I've seen this before it's a Classic!*

I guess in this universe they say archipelago weird

the way he says "razionalismo"... I'm dead.

I’m sorry. I Ɛ> this video it’s good lil Tid bid But how he pronounced archipelago is hilariously endearing

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that went south 😅

@jackieyo6128

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePresentPast_ "Razionalismo" with a pronounced "s" (even if there is no "s") at the end was quite endearing too.

Another example of "italian dictatorship" architecture in Greece is the building of the Αρχαιολογικό Μουσείο Κω (archeological museum of kos) located in the main city square of the island of kos.

Jokes aside its objectively ugly in many ways and any experienced person who has something to do with decorating and art can easily agree with me.Althought Mussolini was a fascist he had some good ideas about buildings but as we can all see this over-minimalism was very ugly both in Leros and inside Italy.He wanted to build a new Roman empire but he was so greed that he didnt let any room for the middle of the arches🤣.

Why is it that for 100 years vast majority of buildings built are so ugly?

Why did the Duce choose to build a naval base at Portolago? The natives told him that the place was really Lakki.

Love from India

Interesting. How did you end up in Leros? Some context: This kind of architecture can also be found in Eritrea, but Leros is easier to reach. Beautiful island! And I would not describe Greece as an ancient country, it is an 19th century construct, like most nation states. Love your content, well done!

@21cgIN

Жыл бұрын

The Hellenic nation is an ancient one. The Hellenic Republic (Greece) may be a modern state, having emerged from Ottoman occupation in the 19th century, but its people go back 1000s of years. The continuity of the nation’s history is well documented and just because it was not a sovereign country with borders, a constitution, and self determination in accordance with international law developed in 16-17-18th century, that does not make the nation itself a 19th century construct.

@addylandzaat8080

Жыл бұрын

@@21cgIN depends on your definition of "Nation". Nation is a modern concept unknown in antiquity. A (modern) Nation is not defined by borders - part of the current Greek nation still is in Istanbul and in Mariupol. There were no nations in the modern sense before the renaissance, so, also no Greek nation. There are no "ancient nations". But you clearly have a different definition :) In those thousands of years of high culture in modern day Greece the culture changed. During the Byzantine empire and after, at least until the 18th century, the people we now call Greek identified as Rhomaioi, so, as Romans - not as Hellenics. There is a clear distinction between the Greek before and after the Byzantine empire. Not only in religion, but also in traditions. There is a continuity, however, it was not the same culture at the end. Like in other countries, a nation story was developed in the 19th century that gives a false sense of continuity. If you're Greek, you have a rich history. You're rightfully proud. I find especially modern Greece history fascinating. Unfortunately not a lot is written in English. Would love to read more on the Asia Minor Catastrophe - if you know any good books in English, let me know!

@21cgIN

Жыл бұрын

@@addylandzaat8080 just because the culture has changed vastly, it does not mean that it is a different country , nation or people, or that culture is a different one. The fact that the name we call ourselves is different also does not mean that. We may have identified as Rhomioi, but that was only a way to identify yourself as subject of the Roman empire, and later on for the Turks to differenciate us from the other populations of the Ottoman empire. That does not mean that we had a different identity to today or that the Hellenic identity is a newly imposed one. We are one and the same people and the name does not matter. The 19th century “narrative” you think was created did not arise out of nothing. The people spoke the same language, shared a lot of the same customs (some pagan ones can be dated to pre-christian time but were later adopted as christian ones), had the same religion for over two thousand years from Cyprus to Anatolia and from Epirus to the Peloponnese and the Aegean islands, with of course regional differences. A lot of these customs, including food, holy days, dances and more have not changed for a long time, at least not in the region I come from, where I can trace my family’s roots back to the 11-12th century. Greek people have a lot of stories to tell about their regions and histories and these stories are passed down generations, they do not come from history books or from some false “nation story” that was used by the western powers to create a new state.

@addylandzaat8080

Жыл бұрын

@@21cgIN Like I said, we have a different definition of nation. I feel that ancient Greece is a different place then current day Greece. That doesn't mean there is no continuity. Like you eloquently proof. Maybe we are to much focused on the word nation - let alone ancient nation. I emphasis the differences here, you the continuity. At the same time, I do not think we really disagree that much. There is a continuous history from ancient Greece to the modern Hellenic Republic. I do not dispute that (like you seem to think). It is btw very cool to trace your family roots to the 11th-12th century, mine only goes back to the early 18th century.

When I saw that church....oh my God,what the hell was that????

I don’t see how the architecture is “ice cold”…

nice

@stephmod7434

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

kind of relieved this video isnt about Forli.

The algorithm brought me here 😜

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I'm Italian and I didn't even know the existence this city

@lutho7693

Жыл бұрын

Would you visit it?

@ciaotiziocaius4899

Жыл бұрын

@@lutho7693 I'd be cool to do that

@SpartanLeonidas1821

Жыл бұрын

Im Greek & I didn’t even know the existence of this City! 😅

It is modernist rather than neoclassicist architecture I think.

And then they have “super market” in English for some reason?

Doesn't look bad thought

The island was libereted in 1912, from over 300 years of Turkish rule...... That way now is in greck and.

yeah i believe preserving fascist architecture is important, but u know, if there was like a mussolini statue or something - this gotta be taken down, it can be easily (in some cases purposefully) misconstrued repurposing fascist buildings into ones where democracy and freedom fluorishes is definitely something thatd make mussolini angry right

@mygetawayart

Жыл бұрын

most of the monuments dedicated to Mussolini or the fascists have been removed and taken down. However, the buildings still serve a purpose outside of pure remembrance, therefore we kept those. A lot of people love the look of Italian Rationalism, indipendently from its fascist origins. A fascinating aspect of Rationalism is how it subliminally wants to diminish your individualism and feeling of uniqueness by using same-y looking shapes and architectural details, set in grand and geometrically shaped buildings and streets. This is not unique to Italian Rationalism as virtually ALL other dictatorships have implemented the same concepts in their own countries. Dictatorships are all about erasing the individual in favour of a common communal goal.

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3:13 what do you mean by they “went back to being part of rest of greece”? they were taken from the ottoman empire not from greece

its not leeros , its lerh-os like lepricot , lemon , lent not like leerhoy or lyrics

I bet your gonna do a little more research after this. thanks

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I hear a dutch accent..

Op het juiste moment de juiste muziek. Maar welke?

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

Welke muziek?

@tomvandenoudenrijn8205

2 жыл бұрын

Wanneer je bijvoorbeeld aangeeft hoe t dorp in r Italiaans heet

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomvandenoudenrijn8205 ahhh ja is van Artlist. Zal morgen even voor je opsnorren.

@ThePresentPast_

Жыл бұрын

'Free synth' en 'morning synth' te vinden op Artlist en Iceland van Tom Fox

@tomvandenoudenrijn8205

Жыл бұрын

Dank Je! Bijpassend gevonden iig

Rhodes Island the same but less

Sickkk🤩🤩

@ThePresentPast_

2 жыл бұрын

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Wait...neoclassical architecture """not greek at all"""???

Razionalismo isn't just a "weird mix of Art Deco and Neoclassicism", it's a whole movement more akin to Bauhaus and Constructivism than to the movements you've described. It's the research for a classicity "out of time", an order that can stand eternal and always beautiful in itself, but without the details that made classicism what it is. Just... study more before talking, alright?