Music Nuggets: Josh Homme's Wonky Guitar Scales
Analysis of Queens of the Stone Age front-man Josh Homme's unusual note choices when soloing. With Bruce Wallace. Image file of the scales - postimg.cc/image/nbdaws5nl/
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The other night I was at a festival and a Turkish band played. On their final song there was this incredibly wonky guitar and I was like "wait a minute, I know this sound" and I joked to my friends like "Josh Homme called, he wants his riff back". Then after the show I approached the guy and I was like "Was that Hungarian Major?" and he like smiled and said it was and I was very happy that I had actually retained some music theory knowledge. I came back to this video to share this but also to revise a little bit about the scale. Great stuff
@egekratl3796
2 жыл бұрын
What was the band?
@kravatapraimuu
2 жыл бұрын
@@egekratl3796 Lalalar
@KutayUgurluer
2 жыл бұрын
@@kravatapraimuu I am Turkish and by reading this comment I knew you were talking about Lalalar
@nipzie
Жыл бұрын
Dude...thank you! That band is so sick I'm about to dive into stoner Turkish rock for the night. Thanks for the heads up on them.
Josh really should go down as one of the most innovative guitarists of all time. Always catchy but low key technical.
@clydeg4274
5 жыл бұрын
James Thomas like being technical takes a back seat to the groove.. as it always should
@jamesthomas9987
5 жыл бұрын
Clyde G well said
@77retroactive
5 жыл бұрын
He is easily one of the best guitarists in rock history, especially the past 20 years. Technical skill is the most overrated aspect of being a guitarist. Originality is far more important. His unique style/sound/tone combined with the quality of his work should put him in the upper echelon of rock guitarists
@jakeybball
5 жыл бұрын
Gene Bone I’m a huge Kyuss fan, but I think Queens is just a better band. John was not the best singer, and on Songs for the Dead , when Lanegan, Oliveri and Josh all sang on that album it was so much better than listening to Garcia’s vocals. That said, I’d take Welcome to Sky Valley over any QOTSA album.
@certifiedchamp7564
4 жыл бұрын
@Gene Bone yeah, no
This was the most thorough explanation I’ve seen on the queens scale, thanks man this is some really great work.
@lightningmcqueengaming7547
4 жыл бұрын
bro nice profile picture
@NicholasAGross
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I've watched that guitar moves video about 30 times trying to figure this out -- and Lydian Dominant was never quite right. This is great thanks.
This scale really goes with the flow and no one knows. Besides Josh. And me. And Music Nuggets. And you.
@Orktyrantik
3 жыл бұрын
The opening solo to I sat by the ocean sounds close as well. Too bad I can't point out what's technically the difference.
@akwilson1676
3 жыл бұрын
No One Knows cause that's The Art Of Keeping A Secret.
@TheRatDefence
2 күн бұрын
@@akwilson1676yeah but everyone knows you're insane
Hungarian major+minor is also really evident on the Arctic Monkeys' album 'Humbug'. Hungarian minor plays a big part in Crying Lightning and The Fire and the Thud. I know Josh worked with them extensively on Humbug and then in bits and pieces later on. Humbug has that creepy dissonant air throughout that is such a key part of Homme/QOTSA's sound.
@alcrapone1131
Жыл бұрын
Still my Favourite AM-Record. Love it!
@davidfinum8503
Жыл бұрын
This scale can also be heard a lot on Opeth's Heritage (2011)
@jamiegiffney4702
Жыл бұрын
The best monkeys album !!
The great thing is how he took his lessons as a kid (polka) and made a unique rock rhythm and lead sound. A true genius.
I've been looking for this since Sophomore year of high school. Thank you.
@MusicNuggets
5 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
Excellent analysis. I've always found Homme's sound to have a bitter, sour, almost ironic edge, like he was using some obscure mode in a rock vein.
I recall him mentioning something about learning guitar from a Polka teacher. Surely that would connect with the Hungarian major scale? That would give it a Balkan/Romani vibe.
@castlestreetrecords
4 жыл бұрын
Dale Garland the scale he’s using is lydian b7
@ObliviousMiner
4 жыл бұрын
yeah, that was in the guitar moves episode from noisey that was mentioned
@saam6768
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember him saying that as well.
@SethTaylor
4 жыл бұрын
@Shockheadd45 Oh my god :O I always thought Josh's sound was a bit like the music I heard growing up at weddings and such in Romania.
@stevo8782
4 жыл бұрын
Polka yes. He does talk about that.
I think Alain Johannes also should get some Credit for joshs sound? Feels like he has been a big influence
@daverlb
4 жыл бұрын
100%
@SeaOfMadness
3 жыл бұрын
Totally. JHo has been influenced by (OK, appropriated!) a massive amount of Alain's stuff, but has always been honest about it. Clearly he has a lot of respect for the guy. He is on record as happily pilfering stuff from anyone he plays with and mixing it up. Anyway, what a cool little vid this is - Thanks!
@CCDaDon15
3 ай бұрын
The massive shift in what Josh was making once Josh worked with Al and Natasha (please don’t leave her out) once he did DS7&8 is noticeable. I’m sure he listened to Eleven before that as well. But I mean. Yeah Al eventually came in and cowrote for two albums where he played a ton of guitar and bass stuff. It’s obvious that Josh really respects Al and Natasha. Everyone does. They made that Chris Cornell solo debut everything that it was. Everyone who knew Natasha basically Deified her. And her Latvian and Russian influences come through a lot in this. As well as Al’s Chilean influences.
he came up with these scales from trying to play the simpsons intro
@radio555
4 жыл бұрын
whole tone scale! The elfman special
@dalesmith4609
4 жыл бұрын
That's funny right there, lol
Bruce Wallace.... The most Scottish possible name. Epic
@kingloser4198
5 жыл бұрын
Did you bring the cards?
@killslay
4 жыл бұрын
I know a dude (in Scotland) called Angus MacDougal...
@noone-fj9sn
4 жыл бұрын
I once met a Jock McSporran!
@mondegreenmatt849
4 жыл бұрын
King Loser It gets borin eftir a while wi’oot the cairds.
@YesOkayButWhy
Жыл бұрын
I lived with a guy in Edinburgh called Archie McCoist.
Just the video I was looking for
kinda like a gipsy scale with the minor pentatonic
@svarcik05
5 жыл бұрын
Totally
Wow, I was just thinking about going back to that guitar moves video to learn the scale and this popped up. Great video!
Great lesson. Informative and straight to the point with no fat. Very useful. Thanks.
Very interesting lesson, thanks. And shows how innovative he is in blending this unusual mixture of metal and polka/ gypsy-like tones.
@H3LLE
Жыл бұрын
You got the polka part right, he never played metal though and he had to repeat this for decades in interviews. He was mostly into Black Flag, Discharge etc as a kid. Actually his experimental streak resemble more Greg Ginn's than any other (with much more talent and skills added).
You have a really concise and clear way of breaking this down. Awesome overview.
Thank you for an amazing breakdown. A "trick" that I took away from his Guitar Moves was how while picking notes, he stumbles around with his strokes. Some notes down, some notes up but never in a standard alternate order. Down strokes for power and upstrokes for charm almost.
@vaughnm0156
Жыл бұрын
His guitar moves vid I think details some of his thoughts on up vs down, very cool little interview
Fantastic work, you’ve cracked the code I’ve wanted to understand for years. Thank you!
did you just call Matt Sweeney "one of their reporters" holy moly dude :D
@jakebeaudrie
5 жыл бұрын
I kinda thought the same thing.
@SatanDynastyKiller
5 жыл бұрын
Lol yup, my thoughts too.
@georgekearney8595
5 жыл бұрын
what is he known for ?
@dkatdesign
5 жыл бұрын
@@georgekearney8595 question is what ain't he known for
@Bigbrotherthunder
5 жыл бұрын
George Kearney I think he’s a cool dude
Hi, I discovered your channel. Pure gold. Thank you very much!!!
Waited for a tutorial like this. Nice one!
Funny story, I hopped on KZread today to learn how to clean my tower fan and as a bonus stumbled on this excellent video. Your way of explaining through the steps of altering key notes to achieve “the sound” is excellent. I did NOT expect to be inspired today and now thanks to you I am. Thank you!
@MusicNuggets
5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, and thank you for the kind words!
Gracias!!! I watched a lot of times the "Guitar Moves" video but did not understand what he was doing until now...
you did a great job.
Holy shit - this video just blew my mind! You're a legend mate. Thanks so much for sharing this killer info!
Awesome breakdown man!
Very cool - thanks for the detail on this.
this is really cool. I remember watching that video but I never put the thing together.
I used to own same looking butterscotch blonde strat. Nice lesson, loverly accent kidder. Cheers!
After 8 years....finally. Thank you
Awesome job! Spaceship Landing 2.0 when you start looping
I had such a strat in butterscotch blonde too, 2007 AmStd it was. Had to sell it though. Gawd I miss it. Thanks for the video
Merci d'avoir démystifié le cas J.Homme. Merci beaucoup pour ta vidéo! Un fan Français.
The Joshy scale can be found within the scales (as modes) of the Hungarian Major, Diminished Half Whole or Whole Half and the Bebop Melodic Minor.
This is awesome, thank you!
Well played sir
Great video, thanks a million
love this one. would love to hear an analysis of the scale of "celtic" music. i hope i'm not making a big mistake, but i'd love an analysis of Foggy Dew.
This video is probably the best analysis on this I've seen so far! Any tips on qotsa chords though?
Great lesson👍🏻
Great insight. Enjoyed this.
Great video, thanks a lot!!
Awesomeness! This is really helpful
lovely. thank you!
Just thank you! Finally something to work with :D
This is brilliant.Thanks, mate. Cheers
THANKS, DIRECT AND SIMPLE
I bet Josh would like this
@adams115
4 жыл бұрын
startervisions, who’s to say he didn’t
@startervisions
4 жыл бұрын
@@adams115 idk
@xxxtentacionspunchingbag2475
4 жыл бұрын
@@adams115 I also don't know
@carlossaez3586
4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't like people figuring out his thing or sound, at least in the past.
@xSGTxPEPPERx
4 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Saenz I spoke to him on the last tour (villains) and he said he has “other things to worry about.” He was also decently fucked up. (as was I) He was pretty laid back and I doubt he cares as much as he used to if at all. Besides he was talking about not doing a tour every year or even every year. That this last tour would be “the last one for a while” along with it being the last “big tour” I don’t think QOTSA will be as active as they have been in the past. I really think he will do another TCV album with Grohl and Jones, keep the Desert Sessions going, (which he’s states he wants to keep it running for as long as possible) he will work with other artists and maybe even start a new project. I think QOTSA will be on the back burner for sometime. Then again maybe I’m wrong.
Great video. Thank you.
Legend, super content mate
Well, that was a fund 3 hours of jamming out... thanks!
Very nice, thank you sir!
Thanks, this is really awesome video
Good lesson I've been using a lot of other pentatonics within the Hungarian major. 1#235b7 is a good one. 1#2#45b7 I like this new pentatonic. Thanks.
This made me happy.
Great men! Finally, i studied that video so much! But here's totally better lookin to what i tried to figure out. I'm goin to litteraly "print" this vid!
@SR91313
4 жыл бұрын
Just take a screenshot and then you enlarge it to study it a little when you need to. But you probably already printed it anyways. lol
@arthurguitarra87
4 жыл бұрын
First thing i did! Haha
Thanks. Loved this video and it'll help lots of guitarists (maybe even to learn more theory!)🎉
Great playing man 👍
Awesome vid!
Awesome video!
Hell yes! Nice work!
I don't know music theory all that well but these are still fun to play. Cheers
Gawn yersel.......perfect illustration of the Homme scale. Leaning into the 6th you ‘homme’d’ in on....see what you did there. This was great
I'm Hungarian and have never heard of the Hungarian major scale (neither has the Hungarian language internet...), so I learned something today, thanks! Fact is, it sounds a lot like Bartók to me.
Great vid buddy!
Perfect, thanks man
Great Video, Funny I was practicing my Melodic Minor Modes got to the 4th and realised how similar it sounded to homme then looked this up. Cheers dude.
@castlestreetrecords
4 жыл бұрын
Tarkan Pasin thats because its also ludian b7 or mixolydian #11
Great stuff cheers
Cheers dude! Very Interesting!
Well done, sir
Great vid
I always felt it as a mash up of Phrygian Dominant, Lydian, Double harmonic major and the blues.
Well done. Way to make it simple!
Thank you!
Thank you kind sir!
Nice video man. New sub
I need you for my guitar player. What are you doing after covids? lol. Love it!
Very interesting indeed. One of my favourite guitarists. Who'd have thought it? In relation to music Vice can actually do a good job!!
This also reminds me quite a bit of Richard Lloyd.
awesome man. subscribed.
@MusicNuggets
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Dude 814 ups to ZERO downs! never seen that before. cool vid mate
This was great
tremenda lesson!
that hungarian major is a game changer. slapper of a lesson mate
cool vid!
QotSA always sounds creepy/cool...
I was hoping this video was shot in November........
OMG! No dislikes!! Rock on !!!
this is the fucking coolest youtube video i've ever seen.
Great Lesson. Can someone tell me when i can use it? When the song is in D ou Dm? or D7? or whatever
Man you are the boss
very nice, like!
Hi! What guitar do you play? Did you use any pedal effects while playing? I have to choose a guitar for me and I really enjoy the sound of yours. I’m also qotsa fan and your video is fantastic, you sound like Josh! Cheers
@MusicNuggets
5 жыл бұрын
Hi. 2004 50th Anniversary USA Stratocaster in 'butterscotch'. Really though, you'd get the same sound from most Strats. I use the middle pickup mostly. The effects are just virtual (Line 6 Toneport) - Just a slightly overdriven Fender amp with a subtle slapback reverb before the amp. Thanks for watching!
I finally find you
Lydian b7 gets me into Homme mindset. The Hungarian scale makes sense given his Polka roots. Will dig into it, thx
Thank you for this! Sub'd.
This man is a great guitar
Recap: Root, b3, 3, #4, b7, Octave, 3, #4, 6, b7