MTB Preload for jumps explained… correctly

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Preloading has be misunderstood for way to long. Let’s talk about it. Body preload verse suspension preload.
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  • @user-gl8eo2ol7o
    @user-gl8eo2ol7o5 күн бұрын

    Finally! A clear description of the nuances of how to handle the take off - i’ve struggled to get this timing right for years.

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    5 күн бұрын

    Thanks man, we got lots more coming. Check out the website more is available there for free as well

  • @jonathanjones8895
    @jonathanjones88954 күн бұрын

    Killed it brother. I hate hearing an instructor talking about holding the compression for 20 ft. Highly underrated information people.

  • @normpa6303
    @normpa63033 күн бұрын

    Thank you! Great coaching! Thats the first time a pre loading video made sense to me.

  • @joeshawcroft7121
    @joeshawcroft71214 күн бұрын

    I've made a lot of progress this year jumping as a 44 year old. Once I learned about preload I made huge strides, but I'm still struggling in a lot o areas with height and technique and I am realizing it is because I'm jumping up the lip as you showed. I'm preloading my body and bike at the same time. This video is so helpful and is coming at just the right time in my progression for me to make tweaks and continue past the plateau I've hit. Thanks for explaining it so well and for showing examples.

  • @BikeXCountryMTB
    @BikeXCountryMTBКүн бұрын

    these are things, fine nuances, that nobody cared to understand and explain before.

  • @sicklygazelle
    @sicklygazelle3 күн бұрын

    honestly everyone that wants to learn the mechanics of pumping rollers and jumping needs a bmx or DJ bike and to spend as much time at a pump track as possible. all the techniques are the same on a hardtail vs full suspension. all the magic comes from the back wheel, the front of the bike is only there for steering and stability. as long as you are pushing thru the jump until your back wheel has left the lip. Great video with no fluff

  • @Baguioboy-torogikid
    @Baguioboy-torogikid3 күн бұрын

    Awesome! I watched a few videos and I got confused when they say "hold the preload" but you explained it quite well. Thanks!

  • @tacticianomen3077
    @tacticianomen30774 күн бұрын

    Thanks - really nice tutorial. There are loads of MTB skills videos on KZread, but surprisingly few that do what you've done here, i.e. tackle misconceptions which are giving people difficulties whilst learning. Unfortunately, channels like yours don't get the number of subscribers they deserve, whereas the big channels like GMBN get huge numbers of views for churning out the same old stuff time and again, but they haven't bothered to ask what people are having difficulties with or thinking about how to better explain it. So I've done my bit - subscribed...

  • @ashnose
    @ashnose4 күн бұрын

    This is one of the best explanations on KZread tbh.

  • @SomeguysTrailrides
    @SomeguysTrailrides4 күн бұрын

    I think people get confused with the terminology. I say squat then pedal press then extend its a bit clearer than preload preload pop

  • @p199a
    @p199a22 сағат бұрын

    bro actually very smart explenation. I watched 100+ tutorials on jumping and your explenation is the only one that is clear and describes technique instead of using buzz words.

  • @invisibleaznDJ
    @invisibleaznDJ4 күн бұрын

    Great explanation Dusty. Most everyone else I have seen doesn't address or explain preload very well.

  • @Lukieb_na_kole
    @Lukieb_na_kole4 күн бұрын

    This awesome tutorial, Now I will practice more as I was always curious and couldn't understand how to preload on long ramp on short, small jumps I got this but longer ramp, bigger jump I had difficulties. You have nailed the explanation, thanks a lot 🔥

  • @weizenobstmusli8232
    @weizenobstmusli82324 күн бұрын

    Mate, you just gave me the missing part of the equation and you solved jumping for me!

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    2 күн бұрын

    Heck yeah man. Send it !!!

  • @magnusgreger
    @magnusgregerКүн бұрын

    Amazing explanation. Finally, a video that makes perfect sense for me. Now, getting ready to recover from a fractured collarbone to try this out on my home trails.

  • @hannahjm93
    @hannahjm934 күн бұрын

    Just subbed. Started trying to learn how to jump recently and feel like I've watched every video out there but this explains it like no other. I'm glad I saw this early on so I can learn it the right way since so far I've been doing that short sharp compression and it doesn't feel like a controlled movement, its sort of like yanking on the bars, its too easy to do it slightly off and go wonky.

  • @traeshelton
    @traeshelton4 күн бұрын

    This was an AWESOME explanation. Cheers!

  • @WanderingWheeliesMTB
    @WanderingWheeliesMTB4 күн бұрын

    I am working on my jumping skills and this definitely helped. Not that I am a bad jumped but hearing the explanation helps with some of my confusion for bigger ones Thanks!

  • @EMTBLIFE14
    @EMTBLIFE142 күн бұрын

    What a great video, best jump tutorial I’ve seen so far!

  • @DK-wd8ju
    @DK-wd8juКүн бұрын

    Love to see you in Bentonville! I just moved from there back to St. George, UT. If you make it out this way would love to see you run a clinic! Thanks for the awesome video

  • @markmccall9027
    @markmccall9027Күн бұрын

    I am guilty of preloading so much that I am effectively counter-pumping up the transition. All the other vids telling us to push hard in to the transition have become a little confusing. Great explanation!

  • @Coolcmsc
    @Coolcmsc4 күн бұрын

    Thanks. Super good clarity 🎉

  • @topspot4834
    @topspot48343 күн бұрын

    Nice tutorial. Seen so many, but eventually it just clicks and you realize how effortless it is0 ... I don't think a lot of beginners pre-load too early or push down too hard. What I see more than anything is they get too far back so they get bucked. I like how you first showed it off the bike when jumping. I do the same, but I run and go off one foot instead of two bags fr. It shows how subtle that preload is. Really good job explaining. So many of these miss the mark and over explain.

  • @GhettoWrench
    @GhettoWrench3 күн бұрын

    Happy to see you doing well Dusty. Great video. Keep em coming. ❤

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    2 күн бұрын

    Thank you! Will do!

  • @neilburns7381
    @neilburns73813 күн бұрын

    great explanation thanks!

  • @burrgren
    @burrgren2 күн бұрын

    Wow. This was great. Really need to try this next time I'm out on my bike.

  • @martijnraymakers2491
    @martijnraymakers2491Күн бұрын

    Very good video, i'm impressed you dont have more subs you gained one extra from me!

  • @LoamReaper
    @LoamReaperКүн бұрын

    Great explanation--even without an outro!

  • @speeddhiman7686
    @speeddhiman76862 күн бұрын

    Thanks bro, I've subbed!

  • @bill3483
    @bill34832 күн бұрын

    Really nice explanation and the great height you're getting off the jump.

  • @TC_Prof
    @TC_Prof4 күн бұрын

    Love it thank u bro 😊

  • @megatryn
    @megatryn4 күн бұрын

    Also something to add here: The wrong way shown here is called spuashing the jump, which is good for racing when you want to minimize airtime and maximize speed. It's good to be able to do both and to use them as needed.

  • @nultianeks

    @nultianeks

    2 күн бұрын

    Interesting! I knew there ought to be an explanation. I'm a racer!

  • @itsmenohandle
    @itsmenohandle4 күн бұрын

    Where are you based out of? And do you offer in person training classes?

  • @rudik5496
    @rudik5496Күн бұрын

    Great video!!!

  • @evilc.reations
    @evilc.reations2 күн бұрын

    feels like this is good advice for the hardtail riders too, except with less shock feedback

  • @SoIcyCarter
    @SoIcyCarter4 күн бұрын

    Saw you at Kanuga I was on the trek slash I wish I found this video a bit earlier 😂 finally got it dialed though

  • @justsayin3600
    @justsayin36004 күн бұрын

    1st time I've heard this distinction. I clear jumps with speed, but I don't have any style, steeze, or height.

  • @gininotejado4792
    @gininotejado47923 күн бұрын

    Wow, Thank you.

  • @JamieR
    @JamieR2 күн бұрын

    Great explaination! I'm curious how this would translate to a hardtail.

  • @jameslock5909
    @jameslock59092 күн бұрын

    Great videos, im so glad i found this channel 😁 Ive got a question which i hope is ok? Im ok on the mellow jumps , but still unsure when it comes to shorter , steeper faced jumps so was wondering if the technique is the same for steeper lips? Many thanks 👍

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    Күн бұрын

    @@jameslock5909 the technique is the same, the timing of everything just happens faster. And you don’t have to counter weight as hard but it’s imperative to accept the fast transition with weight placement I hope this helps and thanks for tuning in.

  • @dag681
    @dag6812 күн бұрын

    Once you get better at timing suspension preload, try learning “seat bump”…something off road motorcyclists use. Virtually no way to teach this. But it is amazing and super fun.

  • @user-gs5wo4ec3j
    @user-gs5wo4ec3jКүн бұрын

    Thank you for the awesome vid

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    Күн бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @HD-on2eg
    @HD-on2eg4 күн бұрын

    The front shock in the video IS fully compressing. It looks like the rebound of the fork actually helps to push against your arms and get your weight back.

  • @BikeXCountryMTB
    @BikeXCountryMTBКүн бұрын

    I would also say your video concludes my theoretical understanding of jumping. After watching countless videos, practicing and meditation. However: studying videos I have noticed the front wheel “bumps” off the lid. After reading the The Physics of MTB Skills, I thought that this also creates the opposing force which pushes up the front tire. Also, this assures us that we won’t go over the bars. I have also been coached to have my arms “long” in the moment of leaving the lips - without being told why. So, aren’t good jumpers keeping the front compress till it leaves the front, than it’s time for the shock compression to the same thing? So, opposing the handlebar, then - of course, very quickly, straitening the legs? Is this understanding correct? This is the approach I began using when jumping and my jumps began to come around. 🙏

  • @HD-on2eg
    @HD-on2eg4 күн бұрын

    Are you pulling back on the bars with your arms, or is the motion of leaning back with straight arms thats pulling the bars back, driving the front wheel up?

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    2 күн бұрын

    It’s just a tension, you can pull back but you need to realize there is a point where leaning back really far and pulling will cause you to loop out

  • @woody2505
    @woody25054 күн бұрын

    Hi Dusty, I watched the jump videos on your site and realised I was preloading my shock at the base and also that I wasn’t moving my weight back. I’ve been trying for literally years to get the front wheel of the bike to come up steeper than the angle of the ramp, first time out trying your recommendations I achieved that and jumping felt entirely different! Thank you so much. However, second time out I couldn’t replicate it 😢!! Could you possibly make a video explaining how the transition from preloading your body straight down through the bike to moving your weight to the back of the bike occurs? Eg what does that feel like. Also, how does the technique change on a steeper jump? Are you moving your bum back horizontally or parallel to the face of the jump for example? I think what I did was just to say to myself “stick your bum back” just before the leaning back and exploding stage but now I don’t seem to be able to do that as well, possibly just due to a lack of confidence I’m doing it right.

  • @thebrewgeek

    @thebrewgeek

    4 күн бұрын

    Same for me. II have big probs trying to figure out what to do with my hands/arms. I've heard that the lean back part is a bit like the start of a manual (keep arms straight) but I can't seem to get the timing right. Plus I tend to not transition my weight back to center properly which means sometimes I'll land front wheel light and RIP me if it's loose or slippery.

  • @DarkAkiles16
    @DarkAkiles164 күн бұрын

    Great video bro!!!

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    2 күн бұрын

    Appreciate it!

  • @jimwing.2178
    @jimwing.21783 күн бұрын

    This is the first time that 'preload', in the context of MTB, has ever made sense to me.

  • @jokermtb
    @jokermtb4 күн бұрын

    it'd be cool if Dusty met Sam Pilgrim's 'Dusty'? Beginners - don't pull up on the bar, you'll get crooked instantly. Get used to sinking into the ramp first. Preloading can be very subtle too - I've found that even a subtle bit of foot pressure thru the feet is sometimes all the preloading one needs for casual jumping. good tips!

  • @MsTatakai
    @MsTatakai4 күн бұрын

    Preloading isnt only needed to Hops/Bunny hops and stuff like that ? like jumping a flat surface to another flat surface (no ramps) ?

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    4 күн бұрын

    Your body preload is the same for bunny hops and jumps. Adding more suspension preload can add more “pop” to your jump or bunny hop. The foundations of jumping are in the J-hop. Don’t forget there are 2 types of bunny hops and one of them sets you for epic jumps the other not so much

  • @itfc3
    @itfc32 күн бұрын

    nice video can you do one on drops

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    2 күн бұрын

    @@itfc3 ooooh sir it’s already made and ready for publishing next week stay tuned

  • @kowioutdoortv
    @kowioutdoortv2 күн бұрын

    Isn't it like this preloading only rear shock will cause otb ? Crucial is, I think, combine shock preload with sending our body to the back a bit Good to highlight it I believe, if I am not wrong with combination of both preload and back

  • @isaacbrooks5999
    @isaacbrooks59994 күн бұрын

    I'd love to see a similar video for hardtailers (I have a Ragley)

  • @SomeguysTrailrides

    @SomeguysTrailrides

    4 күн бұрын

    I have a ragley mmbop, you can apply exactly the same technique as this guy describes BUT the pedal press or pump to preload the rear is much much more gentle or you will buck

  • @isaacbrooks5999

    @isaacbrooks5999

    4 күн бұрын

    @@SomeguysTrailrides Makes sense! Thanks!

  • @awfully.average
    @awfully.average2 күн бұрын

    so the wrong way you preload waaaayyy early . and the right way you preload much later almost at the lip and only into the rear wheel

  • @1982streety
    @1982streety3 күн бұрын

    the latter is for keeping speed rather then hight🤪

  • @ciaran041
    @ciaran041Күн бұрын

    Your “bad technique” was some nice pre-jumping

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    Күн бұрын

    Lol

  • @ianfleischhacker6154
    @ianfleischhacker61544 күн бұрын

    Nice explanation. Tidy up the spelling (e.g. to long, prload, your self, trys).

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    4 күн бұрын

    Yeah man my mom asked me what my college education was for. I’ll try harder!

  • @rrstryker
    @rrstryker2 күн бұрын

    Stopped watching at 4:50. What about us hard tail riders without rear suspension.

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    2 күн бұрын

    @@rrstryker sorry man, noted. It’s the same concept but lucky for your hard tails you don’t loose any momentum through the lip. So it’s gonna be bit less work for you

  • @rrstryker

    @rrstryker

    2 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@Theshredacademythanks for clearing that up.

  • @loamchasers
    @loamchasers4 күн бұрын

    Doesn’t matter how good you are if you have en e-bike I automatically assume you suck lol

  • @Theshredacademy

    @Theshredacademy

    4 күн бұрын

    Lol thanks for letting us know

  • @wldtrak

    @wldtrak

    3 күн бұрын

    And yet, this video has over 9,000 views and your video has…………….

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