Motorcycle Riders - Your Throttle Grip is Wrong

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  • @NotJo4Ever13
    @NotJo4Ever13 Жыл бұрын

    “Free custom engraving!” That is the best thing I’ve heard in a long time!

  • @Razorshot-gk3dq

    @Razorshot-gk3dq

    Жыл бұрын

    Who needs to spend money and time on rally tear decals when the kind asphalt will do it for free and in an instant lmao

  • @daczka92

    @daczka92

    Жыл бұрын

    there is chance to engrave some metal band logo on it!

  • @sylvainster30

    @sylvainster30

    Жыл бұрын

    😂 priceless

  • @Scaliad

    @Scaliad

    Жыл бұрын

    Another "free" thing to be avoided due to unspecified attendant costs... it's something like socialism...

  • @smnbratschi

    @smnbratschi

    Жыл бұрын

    Better than "spontaneous acrobatic dismount"?

  • @notrobmoto
    @notrobmoto Жыл бұрын

    Props to Ryan for always giving us good quality content.

  • @andreastiglio9958

    @andreastiglio9958

    Жыл бұрын

    AND ice cream! 😂

  • @MarcoVenustus

    @MarcoVenustus

    Жыл бұрын

    Nigga went to a supermarket to record a 15s clip hahaha

  • @leftcoaster67

    @leftcoaster67

    Жыл бұрын

    Good? It's GRRRRRRREEEEEEEAT!

  • @hell_march6652

    @hell_march6652

    Жыл бұрын

    I read that as food quality content lol.

  • @freedomisntfree131

    @freedomisntfree131

    Жыл бұрын

    Amen to that. I found this channel about 2 months ago. I didn't think I was going to like it. But, it's one of my favorites now. I have years of experience. But, listening to other's perspective always helps.

  • @MrProsoft
    @MrProsoft Жыл бұрын

    As a 50-year-old motorcyclist, I have to admit that every time you get me out of my comfort point, I think: no, it can't be. But pondering better, yes, I think you're right, again.

  • @Drobium77

    @Drobium77

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm a 45 year old biker, I think I do this somewhat, but not to the extent that he shows on here. Guess what i'm going to do next time I go out and play? 😛

  • @everengaged9370

    @everengaged9370

    9 ай бұрын

    and i was thinking i am too old at 28 to get a sports bike and cruise around

  • @MrProsoft

    @MrProsoft

    9 ай бұрын

    @@everengaged9370spine is 50yo, but the heart is 20 ;)

  • @kristiansandsmark2048

    @kristiansandsmark2048

    3 күн бұрын

    But at what cost? RIP Ice Cream.

  • @grigorirasputin996
    @grigorirasputin996 Жыл бұрын

    That's how I've always gripped my throttle, but you've taught me to eat and enjoy ice-cream cones for the first time in my life.

  • @DRChevalier
    @DRChevalier Жыл бұрын

    Tried this today after watching last night. Four hour ride. No lost circulation, no arthritis in my wrists flaring up and a more relaxed riding experience. I was aware of dropping the elbow but the ice cream cone grip made a significant difference. Thank you kindly

  • @MrMegaPerez
    @MrMegaPerez Жыл бұрын

    Traveled to 35 countries on my bike and have 15 years of motorcycle experience with more than 100k kilometers and I still learn a lot from this channel? Thanks guys for this great work 👍

  • @SixWheelsDown

    @SixWheelsDown

    Жыл бұрын

    yawn

  • @NotJo4Ever13

    @NotJo4Ever13

    Жыл бұрын

    And humble enough to continue to try learning and not immediately feel you are right and they are wrong. You’re a good person!

  • @williamwilson6499

    @williamwilson6499

    Жыл бұрын

    Why are you asking us?

  • @VeriStrawberi

    @VeriStrawberi

    Жыл бұрын

    Well this is race bike stuff.

  • @defrag1

    @defrag1

    Жыл бұрын

    I dont know about you but I have never traveled to another country and have been on motorcycles for a long time. Tell me, when in your years of experience have you turned the throtle like seen on the vid taking a corner???

  • @citnetwork5407
    @citnetwork5407 Жыл бұрын

    One aspect, among many, that sets F9 apart is the quality of the writing. Always to the point, always entertaining, always informative. Beautifully done, fellas!

  • @aidankilleen5889
    @aidankilleen5889 Жыл бұрын

    Every video you guys make is cinema quality, full of perfectly timed tasteful humor and you always do your research. I get a good laugh, and a good bit of knowledge every time. You're easily one the best motorcycle channels there are, right next to motojistu for me.

  • @chrisb6791

    @chrisb6791

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree! I follow both as well!

  • @quadimus
    @quadimus Жыл бұрын

    I've also heard it referred to as the "screw driver" grip. More of a twisting motion then a straight up and down rotation. It apparently helps with preventing the dreaded hand numbing.

  • @ChrisG1392

    @ChrisG1392

    Жыл бұрын

    just use the C grip and roll the throttle between thumb and fingers if that happens. after a while you dont get numb any more

  • @_johnm

    @_johnm

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a symptomatic change for a structural problem. I.e. fix your rider/bike ergonomics. Look up e.g. Dave Moss's ergonomic bike setup videos.

  • @omarsalgado9715

    @omarsalgado9715

    Жыл бұрын

    The ice cream grip.

  • @RR-rk5gj

    @RR-rk5gj

    Жыл бұрын

    But not as tasty.

  • @ShainAndrews

    @ShainAndrews

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's not be drinking and riding.

  • @SohnoJam
    @SohnoJam Жыл бұрын

    Interesting thing I noticed. Most instructional/educational videos end on a summary of everything discussed. This one nearly did the same. Ryan just cut it off with a joke, and left us hanging. That's a level of trust that the audience is intelligent enough not to need the summary to actually grasp the information put forth in the video that's rarely seen in KZread content. Mad props for the risk and for the respect you guys give to the audience, with a simple decision to end a line early. Really cool stuff.

  • @Lizlodude

    @Lizlodude

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. It also helps that the vid is so concise; if you take 45 minutes explaining the shape of the ice cream cone and the driver's dinner plans, the viewer probably does need a summary by the end.

  • @wkgates

    @wkgates

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for pointing that out. That was indeed nice.

  • @nsant

    @nsant

    Жыл бұрын

    After getting my BS in mechanical engineering from KZread and ignoring my on track instructors and watching thousands of instructional motorcycle vids on KZread in order to get to the advanced group, I appreciate a joke at the end instead of a normal review.

  • @jmw8403

    @jmw8403

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nsant You got a degree on KZread?

  • @ChopperChad

    @ChopperChad

    Жыл бұрын

    A review generally helps with retention of information. Has nothing to do with being smart.

  • @barneyhayes4625
    @barneyhayes4625 Жыл бұрын

    I've always heard it described as screwdriver vs baseball bat grip. One definitely has more control over a screwdriver. But yes, same idea. I did appreciate the explanation of the separation of feedback into three degrees of freedom - that was well done.

  • @kirkrivette6564
    @kirkrivette65642 ай бұрын

    I just finished my 5th ice cream cone.....I thought I'd be able to use this practice and go for a ride, but I can't move and my brain is frozen.

  • @neilfoddering921
    @neilfoddering921 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been riding motorcycles for 56 years, and this is the first time I’ve heard of this. Never too late to improve your technique - thank you for a useful, potentially life-saving tip.

  • @DavidWilliams-bg5yk

    @DavidWilliams-bg5yk

    Жыл бұрын

    Was just going to type same!!

  • @stevec-b6214

    @stevec-b6214

    Жыл бұрын

    agreed! i am a similar vintage, and actually wasnt going to watch this episode. Then i realised who made it.

  • @racamon

    @racamon

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you did heat about it, actually. Just, not explained like this. You did hear something like: "don't grip hard, just hold the handles gently, relaxed". That relaxed grip will make sure your hands move naturally when you change the position. It is normal, you probably were doing the ice-cream grip when hitting the curves without thinking about it.

  • @zebragoboom
    @zebragoboom Жыл бұрын

    Watching this channel for a few months has convinced me that i need to get my motorcycle license.

  • @joeschwarzbauer5602

    @joeschwarzbauer5602

    Жыл бұрын

    Do it! You won't regret it. It's a great hobby / lifestyle!

  • @realgenjutsu8181

    @realgenjutsu8181

    Жыл бұрын

    Do it. I got my Class A license this past week. Now i just need a bike.

  • @fumblerooskie

    @fumblerooskie

    Жыл бұрын

    I long ago took a course. It was not only fun, but it gave me the confidence to ride with minimal terror when first starting out.

  • @RideWithRen

    @RideWithRen

    Жыл бұрын

    Everybody would benefit from a motorcycle license.

  • @Scampi95

    @Scampi95

    Жыл бұрын

    @@realgenjutsu8181 I have my A2 licence and ride a 2015 Honda CB500. I can't recommend this bike enough, or any old CB500 for that matter. Apart from the sound, (parallel twin) it's literally faultless

  • @seastate1277
    @seastate1277 Жыл бұрын

    2 months after this was shot, I came alongside Burrard dry dock having sailed through the arctic! I love all your filming locations, thanks for making our whole country your studio. Also love love the care that goes into the script, so witty it gives the videos infinite rewatchability.

  • @savage22bolt32

    @savage22bolt32

    Жыл бұрын

    I loved the Wizard of Oz reference at the end. Many good quips / puns in every episode!

  • @jimdunlap7255
    @jimdunlap7255 Жыл бұрын

    As my carpel tunnel numbness gets worse I find it more difficult to maintain the "ice cream grip" ,when this occurs it definitely slows my pace

  • @The63chicky

    @The63chicky

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope you've got your surgery booked!! No more numbness.

  • @aggro_beat
    @aggro_beat Жыл бұрын

    I just got my license this week, and in Brazil, they teach you everything wrong on how to ride a motorcycle. Your videos are helping me a lot

  • @NotJo4Ever13

    @NotJo4Ever13

    Жыл бұрын

    Good luck, and enjoy! Watch all this content and stay safe friend!

  • @kw2519

    @kw2519

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch out for two dudes on a moto……

  • @joeschwarzbauer5602

    @joeschwarzbauer5602

    Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the license! And I agree, these videos are great!

  • @MrEdison351

    @MrEdison351

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch “Dan Dan the Fireman” and “canyon chasers” and you will learn a lot of skills. Congrats and safe travels

  • @danielffnando

    @danielffnando

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. I got my license 5 years ago, just renovated it and don't even know how to ride a motorcycle. Last time I did it was for the test, after that just cars, now I want to by a bike but don't even know how I'll take it out of the the dealership

  • @paulvanhout9695
    @paulvanhout9695 Жыл бұрын

    Nailed it - clever and understandable method to explain motorcycle dynamics and proper techniques👍

  • @ElectronNinja
    @ElectronNinja Жыл бұрын

    Adding this to the list of things enduro has taught me. The elbows out screwdriver/ice cream grip may not be comfy for long miles, but when you wanna be a fast-boi, the control and feel and unbeatable. As always Ryan, on point 🤙

  • @LucasBlackShooter
    @LucasBlackShooter Жыл бұрын

    This, countersteering and opposite leaning are things I use all the time on the road. Far more responsive, accurate and quicker, tighter steering. Great videos Ryan.

  • @tomtemple69

    @tomtemple69

    9 ай бұрын

    Leaning the bike while staying upright has greatly improved by confidence while riding

  • @swampmarshy
    @swampmarshy Жыл бұрын

    I've been riding for 40+ years, today I've learnt something new. I often learn new stuff on this channel. Thank you and, well explained. Going for a ride to train myself in this new method now.

  • @arthoer

    @arthoer

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here! Though whats the point. I only commute casually on the highway anyway...

  • @swampmarshy

    @swampmarshy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@arthoer The point is that you have the information to make a choice to make your riding experience arguably better.

  • @shmick4203

    @shmick4203

    Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully you don’t need the front brake in a hurry!

  • @elyon2966

    @elyon2966

    Жыл бұрын

    If you front brake when leaning, well something was already rong before leaning ;)

  • @chriswilliams9069
    @chriswilliams9069 Жыл бұрын

    Elbows up is a habit from riding dirt bikes my entire life. I’ve noticed I subconsciously changed my had positions and body posture depending on the situation. “Ice cream” grip is one of them and I actually do it more often than I think. Watching videos like this help me understand why I do what I do, or what I do that’s just a bad habit. It’s been a few decades since I last took a rider course. I think everyone should they’re helpful even for the experienced.

  • @relaxedguy

    @relaxedguy

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm remembering my MSF course a few years ago. I took it as a refresher after some years off bikes. Elbows were up slightly, and there was a lot of talk about neutral hand position so you can work controls but reduce chance of whiskey throttling. The bike I was on took a lot of twist to WOT, so I ended up with elbows down by knees for a bit.

  • @aleksandrshaikovskii7696

    @aleksandrshaikovskii7696

    Жыл бұрын

    Пузико, слишком много мороженого 😂

  • @savage22bolt32

    @savage22bolt32

    Жыл бұрын

    I ride a dirtbike on the road, so my elbows are up in the corners.

  • @chriswilliams9069

    @chriswilliams9069

    Жыл бұрын

    @@savage22bolt32 totally understandable. Lol I have caught myself on the street and trying to stick my foot down. That’s a whole nother topic on why we do that on dirt. It’s weird that it’s something I would do subconsciously. My first street bikes were 70s and 80s dirt bikes with plates. Hodaka 100, xl500, dt400. All before I was 10-15yo. Idk why I didn’t buy a DRZ400 or something similar in my 20s-30s. Same reason I never owned a crotch rocket I guess. I’d do stupid crap I shouldn’t with it. Like ride wheelies up and down the road. I’ve ridden may of family members and never really did that but it wasn’t mine. I’m 41 now. I have 3 younger kids. I only get to ride a few times a year cause we’re always busy. I need a dirt bike with a plate more than ever so it gets ridden more often. I really want a 690KTM.

  • @savage22bolt32

    @savage22bolt32

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chriswilliams9069 im 68. Brought up on Bultacos, OSSAs, Yammys, & SuzyQ's. And my brother had an Ace 100 Hodaka! Last year I bought a CRF250L, Guzzi V7 & an OSSA Plonker. For my age & riding style, they're just about perfect!

  • @turbotj99
    @turbotj99 Жыл бұрын

    Been riding sport bikes for 15 years. In the last year, my mid corner throttle was far less than smooth which is a major problem on a 1441cc torque monster. This video fixed that!

  • @liquidsofa
    @liquidsofa Жыл бұрын

    I cannot accurately count how many times I have twisted a throttle and yet I have just learned something today. Just goes to show I cannot know it all.

  • @Demon8593

    @Demon8593

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, even someone who has ridden a motorcycle once couldn't accurately count how many times they had twisted a throttle.

  • @mickenoss
    @mickenoss Жыл бұрын

    0:12 ...that fall and landing! 😂 - don't ever change man, love your show.

  • @fabiopunk1661
    @fabiopunk1661 Жыл бұрын

    As someone else points out below, the "best grip" depends on the type of bike mainly, then the style of riding. On my Harley I can only think of ice cream grips after I put the bike on the stand and looked for an ice cream parlor. On my Ducati, the shape of the bar invites to adopt the ice cream grip in turns. On my GS, it is a bit in between but more leaning towards the Harley due to the large bar. Useful video anyway

  • @jeanpaulmeyer5772

    @jeanpaulmeyer5772

    Жыл бұрын

    So if you ride a harley in the rain, you still have to keep it as straight as possible, meaning you wanna lean off, meaning this applies. So, no not really.

  • @AzTurboMini

    @AzTurboMini

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeanpaulmeyer5772 it totally depends on the shape, height and angle of the bars. Try that with ape hangers. 😆 Next you'll try and tell me I should use this grip riding my CRF1100 in the dirt as well as my CR500. 🙄

  • @foch3

    @foch3

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AzTurboMini it's more important to be light on the bars then what the grip looks like.

  • @quillmaurer6563

    @quillmaurer6563

    Жыл бұрын

    I would agree - most of these motorcycle skills videos are only considering one type of riding on one type of bike, doesn't take into consideration or acknowledge that many of these things are situational. A lot of cases I get the sense only think about being on a track on a sport or race bike, don't consider the realities of street riding, or maybe some perfect Southern California roads with zero traffic. Like always talking about outside-inside-outside not considering that the middle of the lane in a curve is where gravel tends to collect in my experience, or saying to look through a curve as far as possible when it is often necessary to dodge potholes and man hole covers you don't want to hit leaned over. Or for that matter talking about the importance of fine throttle finesse when the proper technique on my GZ250 is to twist it all the way and pray (by which I mean mutter "shitshitshitshitshit") as traffic gets big in the mirrors. I see this with a lot of channels (cough Motojitsu cough), I think FortNine is better about acknowledging different circumstances and scenarios, but I don't think their skills videos are all that good - they're more done for entertainment, putting jokes and sometimes cinematography ahead of actual good, much less complete, information. Still fun and entertaining though, worth watching with a grain of salt. Their more investigative videos (telling the story of various motorcycles, helmet standards, why Harleys suck and why people still like them anyway, and so on) are amazing though.

  • @stigthe5531

    @stigthe5531

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AzTurboMini You can have serious discussion about handlebars or talk about ape hangers.

  • @Elkins82ify
    @Elkins82ify Жыл бұрын

    The content delivery on this channel is second to none!! Thank you for all you do for the world of motorcycling.

  • @jalex19100
    @jalex19100 Жыл бұрын

    I had to adjust my grip because it was hurting my thumb joint quite a bit. Angled grip, as this video discusses, helped me some and also had the benefits you mention. Chris Birch has some great videos on riding adventure bikes where he also recommends the same angled grip for better control, even for off-road riding.

  • @HyllustheBarbarian
    @HyllustheBarbarian Жыл бұрын

    " ... sending your bike for free custom engraving." That about just killed me.

  • @larryhouse3776

    @larryhouse3776

    Жыл бұрын

    It literally could 😅

  • @renzlumbao2021
    @renzlumbao2021 Жыл бұрын

    I think the ice cream grip also lessens hand numbing

  • @_johnm

    @_johnm

    Жыл бұрын

    Correctly setup your bike/rider ergonomics. Look up Dave Moss's ergonomic bike setup videos to actually solve the underlying problems causing numbness.

  • @renzlumbao2021

    @renzlumbao2021

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_johnm thanks!

  • @dereklmcguire
    @dereklmcguire Жыл бұрын

    I am riding on the road over 60 years ( Had Nortons , Ariel Square Four , Triton and Egli Vincent ) and today I learnt something new , Thank You

  • @kamilpustula2454
    @kamilpustula2454 Жыл бұрын

    So, I have found your channel like three days ago. You hooked me up, and I watched most of your videos. I just want to thank you for all of the effort, skills, knowledge and work you guys are putting in every of those movies. Supreme quality. Hats off! Respect, props, etc etc. Seriously, thx,

  • @ZmanAdventurez88
    @ZmanAdventurez88 Жыл бұрын

    I can't even believe how much effort is put into these videos despite some of them being as short as they are. No matter how big of a video you always deliver an incredibly high quality viewing experience that I can't even fathom.

  • @ElDuderino999
    @ElDuderino999 Жыл бұрын

    Suddenly I am in the mood for an ice cream cone to celebrate yet another improvement to my riding skills. Thanks Ryan, thanks F9 crew!

  • @Sportinglogic
    @Sportinglogic5 сағат бұрын

    I spontaneously adopted that hand-position on my throttle, especially in low rev, torquey situations.

  • @jacobfonteneau6555
    @jacobfonteneau6555 Жыл бұрын

    This video is comic genius with science for punctuation! Great job! I’m a motorcycling virgin and I’m doing all of the research I can while slowly saving and while having no one in my waking life that knows or cares about my bikes.. meanwhile, I’m already addicted and have only driven quads and moped! It’s all that’s been on my mind since the decade long relationship I was in has ended. A few months of saving and I’m not even close to getting something yet but at least I have quality videos like yours to pass the time and learn as much as I can before I get out there.. thanks a lot and keep it up.

  • @MarcLloydZ

    @MarcLloydZ

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi virgin nice to meet ya

  • @msa3491
    @msa3491 Жыл бұрын

    Your ability to break down complex scientific principles coupled with the comedic segues is what keeps us coming back. Always interesting. 👍

  • @Choo-choo-chookcha
    @Choo-choo-chookcha Жыл бұрын

    This grip is one of the first things my instructor taught me 11 years ago when I was starting out. I was really surprised how many people don't know about this. The instructor never brought up the ice cream analogy, however, it is spot on!

  • @CliftonReynolds3
    @CliftonReynolds3 Жыл бұрын

    Great content creator. Always great videos. Ryan’s witty banter is entertaining and intelligent. Kudos to you sir. 🎉

  • @natesturm448
    @natesturm4482 күн бұрын

    This was the first thing my father taught me when riding and it's probably saved my wrists/hands from so much damage over time it's nuts.

  • @flyingklaasman
    @flyingklaasman Жыл бұрын

    seen this subject so many times, but NEVER in as way that sticks to the mind like this. Amazing a presentation as always!

  • @user-oy8of3bm6x
    @user-oy8of3bm6x Жыл бұрын

    3 videos this month THATS A GIFT

  • @parengmike9821
    @parengmike9821Ай бұрын

    As a self-taught rider. Before KZread, the thing about riding a bike is that as you go further, you develop and learn these techniques intuitively i.e. throttle grip, counter steering, trail braking etc.

  • @MrGambitttt
    @MrGambitttt Жыл бұрын

    These videos are just a pleasure to watch, I don’t ride anymore but been here since early days 👍🏼

  • @yashtripathi8609
    @yashtripathi8609 Жыл бұрын

    Someone get this guy an icecream Edit: Hi Ryan, I would really love a scientific video on clutch/break finger grip

  • @cmdrgunslinger5955

    @cmdrgunslinger5955

    Жыл бұрын

    And why would you want a grip that breaks your finger?

  • @AndrewLawlin

    @AndrewLawlin

    Жыл бұрын

    Please!!!

  • @skylinesquid

    @skylinesquid

    Жыл бұрын

    I use my 1st 2 fingers

  • @gwot

    @gwot

    Жыл бұрын

    you want a video on a clutch breaking fingers?

  • @ridermak4111

    @ridermak4111

    Жыл бұрын

    Brake….not break. Check out this link. kzread.info/head/OLAK5uy_nujJLU-nXq87IURoPwYdZcN2c88QM4sGY

  • @gertz1281
    @gertz1281 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a professionally trained traffic motorcycle rider. This tip on icecream grip is imho only meant for track riding, and track riding only. You must make that very clear when you post such content on internet. Have you ever seen a professional trained motorcycle trafic rider like policeofficers hang beside the bike? This professionals know what they do, because there life depends on it. In normal traffic motorcycle riding, you never use any racetrack techniques, it's way to dangerous.

  • @seniorrider9337

    @seniorrider9337

    Жыл бұрын

    GERT Z; I could not agree more! The riders I see today riding way too fast for the street and getting themselves in trouble in corners do not need another thing to think about while looking for a spot to crash. This type of learned skill is as useful on the street as knee dragging! Dangerous info to be feeding the young inexperienced riders that are out there today. They get their endorsement and think they are young Kenny Roberts as it is and buy a bike that is way too much for them to be learning the fine aspects of motorcycle handling. I'll stick to the grip I have used for 150,000 miles over 20+ years of riding, many of those miles on canyon roads in Southern California.

  • @gertz1281

    @gertz1281

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seniorrider9337 thanks, there is a tendency to try to integrate track techniques into everyday traffic riding. I strongly disagree on that. It gives way less control especially in canyon road situations, when you counterlean you have 50% more insight in corners and you see apex 50% sooner.

  • @SurmaSampo

    @SurmaSampo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gertz1281 I primarily use lean into corner when I want to reduce the lean angle of the bike or to tighten my turn when a corner tightens and I don't feel safe increasing the lean angle of the bike. There are a few windy roads that have more than 180 degree turns with obstructed vision so you can often pass the apex without knowing it or the road changes lateral pitch during the turn.

  • @gertz1281

    @gertz1281

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SurmaSampo the thing is that you MUST be able to stop within your line of sight, and choose your speed accordingly. Especially in windy road situations with obstructed view. You never know what is behind the corner. When you hang beside the bike and drives race lines, you obviously reduce your insight in a corner dramatically. When you then choose your speed according to be able to stop in your line of sight, you are quicker when walking that corner.

  • @SurmaSampo

    @SurmaSampo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gertz1281 That is great advice if I am the only person on the road. If I have a angry bloke in a LandCruiser up my arse because I am doing 20kph under the speed limit then that is more dangerous than assuming the road ahead is clear. There is a far higher risk of road rage idiots forcing me to go flying off the mountain than there is of an unknown blockage ahead. Blind corners are everywhere and often just because the view is obstructed by traffic. Do you slow down to half the speed limit to go over a crest or every obscured bend because that would make any form of driving impractical? I don't knee slide or even hang beside the bike. I just go from tall to laid on the tank with my head in line with the inside mirror. I am no racer boy and don't corner a blinding speeds but I am still moving my weight low and inside compared to cantilever when called for. No offence but the approach you suggest for visible distance would make just my regular commute on a straight motorway basically impossible. There is .ore to collision risk management than brakes and sight lines. Also every motorcycle rider in Australia who got their licence since the 90's is professionally trained to ride in traffic.

  • @javiermaceira4406
    @javiermaceira4406 Жыл бұрын

    Ryan, what a genius you are. Your content is gold. Much more enjoyable than the majority of the content that branded media are publishing everyday. It is inspirational. Keep up with the good work! 🤠

  • @victorramalhobustamante3565
    @victorramalhobustamante3565 Жыл бұрын

    I really need to show appreciation every time i come back to enjoy the same great videos. Learning every day, thanks guys!

  • @idrive206
    @idrive206 Жыл бұрын

    I love your silly, writing and how you use it to help us understand motorbikes better. Keep up the good work!!!!

  • @jsprite123

    @jsprite123

    Жыл бұрын

    Ice creams are not silly

  • @adam346

    @adam346

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jsprite123 indeed. Ice creams r srs bsns.

  • @darksu6947

    @darksu6947

    Жыл бұрын

    @@adam346 Serious vanilla beans indeed.

  • @noneone2u
    @noneone2u Жыл бұрын

    Ryan got me cryin'! You are brilliantly informative and absolutely hilarious! This world needs you now more than ever. Thank you

  • @philfoggs5357
    @philfoggs53579 ай бұрын

    I don't have a ride right now, but every time I watch one of your videos I increase my riding knowledge base a little more. Great content.

  • @lunaspringe3825
    @lunaspringe3825 Жыл бұрын

    It’s really interesting to see and think about this, because it’s similar to something we teach people who learn how to row competitive boats. The “regular” grip can lead to injuries when rowing fast and hard, so we teach the ice cream grip to lessen the impact on the wrist and keep control over the oar.

  • @si1208
    @si1208 Жыл бұрын

    Takes me back to the time of my first forays on the track, when 'A Twist of the Wrist' (written by Dylan's father, Keith) was essential reading for wannabe racers.

  • @masonboard

    @masonboard

    Жыл бұрын

    I still think ‘A Twist of the Wrist’ is essential reading/viewing

  • @ToruTsuzaki
    @ToruTsuzaki Жыл бұрын

    I guess this also depends on the type of bike, as the ‘ice cream’ grip is quite difficult to use on cruisers and some large upright adventure bikes. I predominantly use a sports tourer and find the ice cream grip feedback essential and better for cornering on twisties, but on motorways I find the more relaxed hand grip better for long straight rides, once again great content fortnine!

  • @philhunt9297

    @philhunt9297

    Жыл бұрын

    For me... I guess this is predominantly for the knee sliding "ignore speed limits" riders or race track enthusiasts - most riders won't need or gain anything from this "modification". Basics like counter steer (pushing on the grip in the direction you want to travel/turn) far more beneficial to the everyday rider (who doesn't wear metal plated knee sliders etc) My opinion ^^

  • @OmNi08

    @OmNi08

    Жыл бұрын

    I heard that the trick is to slowly switch to the ice cream grip the more you turn the handlebars, it’ll gradually turn into muscle memory and will become smoother over time!

  • @OmNi08

    @OmNi08

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philhunt9297 read my reply to the guy above, it helps for stability in tight corners and also REALLY helps when doing a VERY SLOW u-turn so u don’t hit your hand on the tank if (unless you got long cruiser bars) or lock the throttle in place.

  • @philhunt9297

    @philhunt9297

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OmNi08 Never had those issues. Counter steer will help on tight corners and good clutch control will eliminate smacking your hand on the tank if you've got idiotically long handlebars. Fort9 only covered (insinuated with the clips and emphasis) on getting good steady control on fast cornering hence my comment regarding metal knee sliders/speeders and race track enthusiasts - I've got nothing against the aforementioned so long as they're on a race track.

  • @DroneStrike1776

    @DroneStrike1776

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro, he's talking about leaning. Demonstrating riders who are riding fast in the video. Not cruiser on the highway.

  • @BlueDevilMoto
    @BlueDevilMoto Жыл бұрын

    Love that more people are bringing this to attention, just one of the little things that makes a big difference.

  • @NewfNukem
    @NewfNukem Жыл бұрын

    Keep up the great work. One of the most informative and entertaining channels out there.

  • @mrkonamona
    @mrkonamona Жыл бұрын

    Man I love the knowledge I gain from Ryan’s videos and the editing and his humor top notch

  • @Avboden
    @Avboden Жыл бұрын

    When I took the California Superbike School (at the Ridge) the whole drop the elbows thing and even rest them on the tank was absolutely game-changing. That one single change completely changed how I rode, it was incredible.

  • @indoscythian
    @indoscythian Жыл бұрын

    This is my favourite channel, Ryan and team pack both comedy and riding skills into one. Kudos guys, learned a lot since being on here and the jokes just keep me coming back again and again.

  • @dominiquecharriere1285
    @dominiquecharriere1285 Жыл бұрын

    Good learning in a very high quality standard video, as always! Great job Fortnine!

  • @veritasaequitas9277
    @veritasaequitas9277 Жыл бұрын

    These are some of the best videos on YT, no joke. Thanks for continuing to put out solid, clever, helpful content.

  • @AVweb
    @AVweb Жыл бұрын

    How many takes to get that ice cream drop right? (: One thing I'd like to see added is the finesse of rolling hard onto the throttle from a trail brake situation. I never seem to get that one right.

  • @gohjohan

    @gohjohan

    Жыл бұрын

    I think KZread sponsored his ice-cream.

  • @brianglendenning1632

    @brianglendenning1632

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be great. BTW - I watch AVweb too - great channel!

  • @anthonymiller1305

    @anthonymiller1305

    Жыл бұрын

    Cool to see My second favourite KZread channel commenting on my favourite KZread channel. (Sorry AVweb)

  • @Conzales

    @Conzales

    Жыл бұрын

    You don’t roll hard onto the throttle during trail braking. Do it slowly mid corner and let the brake go at the end and then open the throttle. Trail braking only needs one finger, use the fun finger for that.

  • @pilotistbreit

    @pilotistbreit

    Жыл бұрын

    So cool to see AVweb here :)

  • @danielmalek2442
    @danielmalek24423 ай бұрын

    I've been applying the ice cream grip my whole life and I was always criticised for doing it. Thans for the support.

  • @stockstreamtwitch
    @stockstreamtwitch Жыл бұрын

    Im glad this channel showed up in my recommended feed. Great info, editing, and pacing! Love it!

  • @justanothergixxer6772
    @justanothergixxer6772 Жыл бұрын

    This dude is the jeremy Clarkson of motorcycle riding! Great to watch! Keep it up! 👏👏

  • @doug3512

    @doug3512

    Жыл бұрын

    Jeremy Clarkson minus the inflated ego.

  • @owdpotter7597

    @owdpotter7597

    Жыл бұрын

    jeremy clarkson, don't insult the lad

  • @impalaSS65

    @impalaSS65

    Жыл бұрын

    Clarkson is the man. No one is even close.

  • @sugarnads

    @sugarnads

    Жыл бұрын

    And cue the CLARRRKSONNNNNNN!!!!!! Hate...

  • @impalaSS65

    @impalaSS65

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sugarnads Yeah never met the easily offended soyboys near a bike in real life, but in the comments on this channel they seem to exist. AI-bots?

  • @Oddman1980
    @Oddman1980 Жыл бұрын

    This might also help when you're trying to navigate your streetbike down these post-apocalyptic paths they laughingly called "paved roads" in Tulsa. The constant bumps can get transferred to the throttle.

  • @gabrielmclaughlin7669

    @gabrielmclaughlin7669

    Жыл бұрын

    I hate driving through Tulsa.

  • @Oddman1980

    @Oddman1980

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gabrielmclaughlin7669 Everybody does. Especially if they're from Tulsa.

  • @quillmaurer6563

    @quillmaurer6563

    Жыл бұрын

    This is where off road skills are useful. I've seen it often suggested that all motorcyclists should learn off-road skills to become a better rider, but it's also good to have those techniques for some so-called "roads" you might encounter. Same as how I think all pilots should learn to fly gliders, both because it will make them better pilots as well as the fact that any airplane can become a glider.

  • @aaronstokes2883
    @aaronstokes2883 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos, so many catchy one liners, so many different cities... I can see a lot of work goes into these.

  • @dkalir
    @dkalir Жыл бұрын

    Amazing! I watched this one three times and every time learned something new. You're awesome Ryan! Thank you!!!

  • @LVracerGT
    @LVracerGT Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel. Got my first bike a few months ago (N400) and I've described this to people as 5-10 minute Top Gear clips with bikes.

  • @leavinskids8999
    @leavinskids8999 Жыл бұрын

    As a very new rider these videos are so appreciated, thank you

  • @rebel04343
    @rebel0434310 ай бұрын

    I love fort nine. Ryan’s videos are always my favorites.

  • @MikaelLewisify
    @MikaelLewisify11 ай бұрын

    Learning so much from this channel. Always entertaining as well.

  • @Baemoth
    @Baemoth Жыл бұрын

    5 minutes to teach me something I didn't know I needed to learn. Thank you.

  • @allenarneson4349
    @allenarneson4349 Жыл бұрын

    I love the dropping to earth like a comet (screaming enhances the affect), BUT landing like a lunar module - Soft!! Excellent video as always. Thanks for the how NOT to hold my throttle grip - but how to hold my ice cream cone with my most sensitive grip. I will use that at my local Dairy Queen...

  • @sundar13121986
    @sundar13121986 Жыл бұрын

    That's Beautiful! Explains why the naturally positioned "Ice Cream Hold" on Triumph SpeedMaster 2018+ stock beach bars feel soooo RIGHT... So suited for Aggressive Cruising

  • @alvarojdn
    @alvarojdn Жыл бұрын

    I came to this channel as a reomendation from Chaos Causes to learn about chain cleaner.....but I found gold!!!!!!! Already watched all your videos and I cant wait for you to release some new ones.... regards from 🇨🇴 Colombia

  • @SauvikRoy
    @SauvikRoy Жыл бұрын

    The shopping cart analogy was beautiful! And the intro was great too! Always enjoy your videos!

  • @stilinskiins150
    @stilinskiins150 Жыл бұрын

    Man... what a rollercoaster of emotions this one was

  • @palkevin95
    @palkevin95 Жыл бұрын

    the quality production of your videos is amazing

  • @taylorn325
    @taylorn325 Жыл бұрын

    You have better production than most tv programs. Awesome job.

  • @WolfJustWolf
    @WolfJustWolf Жыл бұрын

    Disclaimer: "Several ice cream cones were harmed during the making of this film"

  • @SoloPilot6

    @SoloPilot6

    Жыл бұрын

    They would have admitted it, but they were waffling.

  • @daniellillistone9406
    @daniellillistone9406 Жыл бұрын

    I've literally watched all your videos (lockdown is my exscuse) but i love seeing consistent uploads reacently keep it up but also try to not get burnt out

  • @ryancrisp1842
    @ryancrisp1842 Жыл бұрын

    I honestly have never had this issue since I started riding because I watched your videos in prep and learned to cover my levers 😉

  • @ryancrisp1842

    @ryancrisp1842

    Жыл бұрын

    Puts your hand in the natural position

  • @zzrzz6199
    @zzrzz6199 Жыл бұрын

    As usual one of the highest quality youtube productions and great humor.

  • @Martinjaegarcia
    @Martinjaegarcia Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ryan, thank you editing team, thanks to everyone who puts effort into these videos. You all are legends! #icecreamemoji

  • @AdventureGlide
    @AdventureGlide Жыл бұрын

    *_What a great channel. Thanks for putting this together. I always learn something new._*

  • @jj1983e
    @jj1983e Жыл бұрын

    I was having wrist pain and hands numbness on my sport bike, started doing the screwdriver grip (ice cream cone grip in Canada) in combination with gripping the tank more with knees. Now, more control and longer painless rides. Thanks F9

  • @EarthWalkerOne
    @EarthWalkerOne Жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty new to bikes, but I've watched 100s of videos on rider skills. How is this the first time I'm hearing this? Thanks!

  • @shmick4203

    @shmick4203

    Жыл бұрын

    Because it’s nonsense! Watch some of his other videos, sure doesn’t practice what he preaches!

  • @ridderjaim3

    @ridderjaim3

    Жыл бұрын

    This grip is only really (practically at least) useful on the Racetrack/if you drive like a racer, if you drive somewhat normally you won't really benefit much from it. Though either way you shoudn't be gripping the bars hard either way, relaxed grip+ arms is the way to go.

  • @kinoshasecurity5515
    @kinoshasecurity5515 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who has just recently passed their CBT and has a motorcycle on order, this channel has both simultaneously been the most entertaining, and educational out of anything I've ever watched! The sheer quality that goes into these is nuts!

  • @sexycowman

    @sexycowman

    Жыл бұрын

    Braap braap, what are you getting?

  • @kinoshasecurity5515

    @kinoshasecurity5515

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sexycowman Yamaha MT-125

  • @MH-nr2wo
    @MH-nr2wo Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. As a new rider it's great watching your content to help me adjust grip, understand those pigeon eyed drivers etc!

  • @donniemullins2719
    @donniemullins2719 Жыл бұрын

    I honestly don't know why your not more famous! your videos are just the best period!

  • @gonnahavemesomefun
    @gonnahavemesomefun Жыл бұрын

    Highlight of my week finding two Fortnine videos I hadn't seen!

  • @Ranveer_sangha03
    @Ranveer_sangha03 Жыл бұрын

    Long time back I have watched naska video he explained this throttle limits beautifully

  • @morley3810

    @morley3810

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw that one too.

  • @kurtlarsen3627
    @kurtlarsen3627 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to use this, but I'm one who likes to cover the brake with 1 finger at all times. And I find that impossible to do with this sort of grip

  • @alternativeharvey7
    @alternativeharvey7 Жыл бұрын

    Another Fortnine gem!!! Best motorcycle/content on you tube

  • @RiderXp
    @RiderXp Жыл бұрын

    Love the writing and execution. An important technique that goes hand in hand with this is to hold the bike with your knees, brace your core and you will naturally be able to have the flexibility of holding the throttle more appropriately for better control over the throttle and better feedback.

  • @icantrideslow
    @icantrideslow Жыл бұрын

    Watching Mike on Bikes' video about this subject made me very conscious about how to hold the throttle and ever since, I've become a much more advanced rider. I strongly recommend everyone adapting this technique.

  • @brianglendenning1632

    @brianglendenning1632

    Жыл бұрын

    Mike is great too.

  • @Jamesulchip
    @Jamesulchip Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This immensely helped for my recent CBT. This technique reminds me of string bending on the guitar with a slight twist of the wrist (as opposed to exerting the whole forearm into the fingertip).

  • @jjpower6769
    @jjpower676911 ай бұрын

    Amazing,. I've been doing it all wrong since 1974, over one million miles in the saddle, including a good few laps of the Isle of Man TT course, some falls, no broken bones and still riding at 67. You learn something every day!

  • @neilpatel8769
    @neilpatel8769 Жыл бұрын

    Your channel makes me feel really special haha. I think I'm a born rider because most of your advice on bike riding is something I've been doing naturally after 3 years of riding, been riding for 10 years now, making my own bikes for the past 4 :) love your channel.

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