If you can't "play the piano" while riding, you're too tight on the bars. Remember, the more relaxed you are with your hands and arms, the more control you have. MotoJitsu.com

@michaelcaine8311

Жыл бұрын

Easy if you have a Yamaha 😂

@XtreeM_FaiL

Жыл бұрын

I can't play any instrument while I'm riding or when I'm not ride.

What I learned from Dave Moss that was really helpful for me was to make sure to adjust and turn down the brake and clutch lever to align with my arm/wrist angle to be ergonomically correct to eliminate unnecessary strain in the joints.

@musicteacher5757

8 ай бұрын

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My hands went numb on my Rebel 300 because the grips vibrated more than the shoebox under my wife's side of the bed.

@nathanstewart3329

Жыл бұрын

Underrated comment.

@rubberduckindustries6665

Жыл бұрын

Damn

@JonFromSoCal

Жыл бұрын

This is one of the greatest comments I have ever read.

@1316jet

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@paullacey2999

Жыл бұрын

Tell me more😉

Great advice that is even more pertinent as you age. My 72-year-old hands can go numb quicker than my 25 year-old hands could when I first started riding.

I just got back into riding after 2 years with an old standard. I found that my hands were extremely numb and painful after a short time because I was so tense and sitting too far back. Once I made an effort to relax and sit properly, I felt completely fine for hours.

I ride a 75 mile round trip daily commute. Hand numbness was a big problem for me on my FZ6R. The 3 things that worked for me was more pressure on the tank with my knees, a throttle lock or crampbuster and "playing the piano" every few minutes. Now the only time my hands get numb is when temperatures drop into the 30's and my heated grips can't keep up.

@jayhom449

7 ай бұрын

Try using heated gloves. That works by heating the blood on top of your hand. If you notice the top of your hand gets colder than your palm.

All things considered, if are not adequately hydrated, your arms will tire and you can experience numbness and/or cramping of the fingers. My medical opinion.....always hydrate, especially if riding continuous over an hour or two. Also, if you have significant cervical spondylosis, because of compression of the brachial plexus, you can get numbness or paraesthesia in the arms and hands. You should take a break and mobilise your shoulders to loosen the neck tissues. All the best and as ever, thanks for your videos. Totally useable tips.

@newmonengineering

Жыл бұрын

I can tell you, I have a pinched spinal chord in my neck if I put my hands over the shoulder my hand goes numb in a few minutes. I can't do work well with anything over my head. So ape hangars are out for me lol I would not be able to do that.

Since I’m a noob, I’m doing better at keeping my hands loose on the grips and scooting forward on the seat. This video just validated this for me. I was so tense when I started out riding and would come back come with really numb hands.

@Joel-ho8xx

Жыл бұрын

hands should hover on the grips, not squeezing.

@chnacr2

Жыл бұрын

@@Joel-ho8xx Easier said than done for a beginner. The best thing to do is make a conscious effort to relax the grip over time.

Carpal tunnel for me. Larger grip helps. Loser grip and flexing hands helps. Also, eating salty foods causes an almost undetectable swelling, but gripping something + capal tunnel will make very small swelling in your hands trigger numbing going into painful.

I just got my temps today, geared up and went on my first ride that was longer than 1/4 mile. I had to come back after less than 15 minutes because my arms and wrists felt like I'd been lifting. I didn't realize how scared (therefore tense) I was. Loving these videos, I have an entire month to prepare for my beginning rider course. I'm trying to watch everything I can on low speed control and how to properly turn.

I was riveted. That's because you are an excellent communicator, Greg, because I already knew that, on an intuitive level. But you brought it to the surface of my awareness, enough for me to now make multiple decisions during a ride to loosen my grip. Keep the teaching going because it is precious stuff.

I thought I was the only one with this problem, thanks for addressing it. Several reasons why this may occur is 1. If you are driving a smaller displacement bike and you are forcing it to keep up with traffic. In such a case, the steering will begin to vibrate and you compensate by “holding on for dear life”. You then tense up and restrict blood flow to your fingers and hands with that tiring “ death grip”. 2. If your bike is light, or if you ride a taller bike at higher speeds, you will face problems with wind pressure. I personally never had numb hands when I drove my 750cc standard type bike. The problems began occurring when I sized down to lighter and taller bikes. Sometimes, what you like isn’t always appropriate for what you are using your bike for.

Great topic and I think you nailed the real issue - it took me several month once I realized the more relaxed my hands and arms the more control I have and my hands don't go numb so fast - I also added a wrap to may grips which seems to help.

Thanks for this tip! I’ll be trying this on my next ride. I have some nerve damage in my hands, so anything I can do to help reduce numbness is a great thing.

One of your old videos helped me a lot with this problem. Ever since I started covering brake and clutch with two fingers problem disappeared.

Great advice Greg. Here's one for you, I found out my gloves were making my hands numb. Get the right gloves!

Great tips! Thanks!

Thank You for excellent video. I have been riding liter bikes for a long time and always have this problem. I noticed that I am holding the grips very tight, even with my arms bent. I started to remind myself especially on long distance riding to relax my hands and it is getting better.

Great video. You nailed it. Thanks!

I've found that installing the "foamy" grip sleeves really help with minimizing the numb sensation in my hands to the point that it's very infrequent compared to not having the foam sleeves. they do increase the grip diameter, but you get used to it.

@musicteacher5757

8 ай бұрын

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Thanks brother. Excellent feedback. Relax and no pressure in any way.

I got into road motorcycling a few months ago (I primarily ride dirt bikes, so being on the road is odd to me) so i still have my beginners permit. I'm so deathly terrified of losing control due to a tar snake or pebble that i death grip like i'm cutting fire wood. I kept wondering if it was the gloves i bought, but even without gloves my hand would still go numb. When you're chopping wood a numb hand really doesn't matter so i learned to ignore it. But riding a motorcycle is a different story. Thanks for the video, it's just one of those things that i'll have to fix over time.

Thank you so much, this is exactly what I am facing on my recently bought 2016 Duke 390. Bike is so agressive for my skill level I get scared and hold the handlebar very tightly.

Great advice. Every time my hands go numb it's because I'm riding too tense and I have to consciously loosen up.

Awesome mate. Thank you.

I’m 64 now and have arthritis which varies day to day from years of heavy trade work and combat sports. Fitted all 3 bikes with coca-cola barrel grips now which alleviates much of this problem. Bent arms helps and having the grips at an angle rather than horizontal is useful too. I have clubman bars on my CB1300 which seem to work well, my Triumph Sprint GT is already ergonomic, but the real surprise is the 8” ape hangers on my American export Triumph T-140 which are incredibly comfortable - hands are at about a 30 degree angle. I also cover the brake with one finger practically all the time but generally maintain a relaxed grip. Small parallel grips (the usual standard options) are the devils work. I’m now a fan of the more forward riding position though as this improves control and reduces wind buffet. But some days suck (yesterday on the 1300 after 100 or so miles) and you just have to shake it off and continue. It’s not a good thing when you can’t feel your hands on the twisties so I’ll likely put the small reflexed levers on to minimise the reach. Well done for covering this common issue! 👍🏻

While I don't disagree with any of this advice there are also other causes and solutions. With over 30 years of track and sport bike experience I'm well aware of the techniques described here to mitigate numbness but after retiring for a bit and recently purchasing a single cylinder bike this thumper, like all thumpers, are buzzy. Over distance it eventually wears on you, unless one is by nature not sensitive to buzzy bars. Often a good set of bar end weights can help a lot, the stainless steel ones from Oberon, a U.K. company, are quite hefty and good quality. Good to use all available tools in addition to technique to improve riding comfort.

My hands used to go numb due to gripping too hard AND riding a CBR250R single for long periods - I recommend bar end weights (adding weight ) made a big difference. I learned how to relax my grip too

Love these guide videos, back on a bike after 3 years. 1000 blade.

@johnnymoore7480

7 ай бұрын

Great Bike 😎

Great video! Installing grip puppies also help allot in avoiding the numbness. The vibration of the engine on some bikes makes your hands go numb. But also take enough breaks during ur ride; every 1,5 / 2 hours hours is best. Also your behind and back will thank you.

This was such an issue for me, compounded with I already have carpal tunnel. 15 mins of riding and I couldn’t feel my hands anymore. I tried this and adjusting my levers and it helped some.

Oh, this is just so good! ✨️ And so true! 👍 As a complete newbie, I hung on to my life in the handlebars.... Stiff, all the way up to my hair roots!!! 😮I had that "Lion King look" - but not cool at all though,....! 😅 But I took your word for it - and started to play the piano! 🎼 My instructor at school,, loved the metaphore - when I told him what made the huge change in my whole drivning position! ❤ No more numbness, easier to ride - and so much more joy! 🫠 Thank you so much, Greg! ✨️

Thank you so much for another great post! It helped a lot. Now I know that it doesn't happen just to me and also how to fix it.

Don't forget that the throttle is best controlled by forearm rotation (like turning a door knob) rather than flexion of the wrist (which is super tiring) and your lower arms and hands should move as a unit (like windshield wipers) as you shift body position. In the piano world, they say "you can be at an angle to the piano, but don't be at an angle to yourself" - the same applies to the handlebars.

I ride big vtwin with engine hard mounted to the frame, so hand numbness is very hard to get rid off, just weighted grips and gel gloves reduced this by far the most… and my zzr14 is smooth as silk compared and it is considered more sport than touring :) sad both of these do not have cruise control… PS when just cruising the best thing to get rid of numbness especially on throttle is just to keep throttle grip with finger tips instead of full grip :)

Great video my friend i always keep my arms in a relaxed position and I never get numb hands. 😊

Thanx man! paused your vid...went and rode around my yard and can't believe the difference! Then came back and finished the vid 😂

I have chronically had this problem for years. Paying attention to my posture and grip, while important and helpful, didn’t resolve my numbness issues. In addition to the advise in this video, I found preemptively taking ibuprofen before a long ride and gloves with a gel palm allows me to ride all day in all conditions with little to no numbness. After a few hours I have to take another dose of ibuprofen. I think some people have more susceptibility for inflammation in their wrist and hands, for me, ibuprofen helps control it.

@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus

Жыл бұрын

Ibuprofen is my friend these days for sleep. Never occurred to me to use it before a ride but will start now. Thanks for the tip! 👍🏻

Time for a slight update on the bit about vibration. There are bikes with almost no vibration - electric motorbikes. But even on them, if you grip too tightly, you will get numb or sore wrists. It isn't vibration numbness like workers get when using road drills. Few bikes have that kind of vibration. It comes from your riding position.

My right hand went numb as well... i thought i was doing good gripping my gastank with my legs... this was where i found out i had carpeltunnel syndrom... 1 surgery and no mor numb hand.. So yes all what you just mentioned is so true. Good content bro. Thank you.

Not to knock out Greg, but also get checked out. I have followed his instructions, and it makes a difference. Sometimes, it was not my hand that went numb, but my forearm and my hands would follow. Turned out I had impingements in my muscles. I ride a cruiser, and it should be the easiest ride. It wasn't. I got treated and followed the motojitsu training, and I've improved

fell asleep one time with my RH bent upward. woke up with hand numb. i think it's the grip and twist on the throttle that numbs the hand. my new rebel 1100 has cruise control and my RH has never been happier. as stated above, grip puppies can help.

I had a pair of bad fitting winter gloves.. that numbed me up too

This happened when I just started - I actually had nerve damage for about a month, couldn't even use nail clippers. Loose grip fixed the issue, and nerve function eventually returned.

I was diagnosed with Carpal tunnel syndrome. I'm able to ride on highways just fine but it's on the bad roads the problem starts. Swollen palms at the end of a 4 hr ride is a part of life now.

Definitely found gripping the tank tighter with the legs and relax the hands drastically changed my riding! New leather gloves are worth wearing at home for a while to soften them up too, especially for new riders as stiff leather gloves with nervous tight grip is a recipe for extremely fast numb hands!

1:34, is that an EcoBoost Mustang startup in the background? Had one and sounded exactly the same. Thanks for the video by the way, good job

Drop the elbows, fantastic advice, really makes a difference (Yamaha R1).

I watched a Sylvain Guintoli (spelling is awful sorry on the toilet) video on throttle grip on the track. A comment made a joke that he was holding it like a champagne glass. I started doing that and now can ride all day without a throttle lock and zero cramps or hand fatigue

@CBR305RR

Жыл бұрын

💩💩💩

I found out for myself, that just my GS's grips where to thin. I attached grip puppies, more circumference and I was able to hold the grips with a more "open" hand. No more nubness. :)

Exactly. I was taught to hold on and steer the bike by legs, not hands. Playing the piano is a great analogy as well. Thanks!

@ropeysubstance1719

Жыл бұрын

You cannot steer a motorcycle with your legs. Your arms steer the motorcycle

@4upkoB

Жыл бұрын

@@ropeysubstance1719 try it bro. You actually steer the bike by your legs much more than you think. You shift your body and that steer the bike easily.

@ropeysubstance1719

Жыл бұрын

@@4upkoB motojitu literally has dozens of videos debunking this myth. the one and only way to turn a motorcycle is to counter steer by pushing forward on the side you want to turn. moving your lower body does nothing.

@4upkoB

Жыл бұрын

@@ropeysubstance1719 ok, maybe this is the question of names.

I have had numb hands on at least the last 4 bikes. BMW F850 GSA, Kawasaki Voyager, Africa Twin, Triumph. I re entry bought a used ‘14 HD Ultra Limited with a 110” motor and so on. For the FIRST TIME in all these bikes, my hands are fine. Couldn’t believe it! I suspect the wrist angle yaw as well as pitch are key factors.

Good topic. I struggle with my right hand going numb, and it hasn’t been a bike issue as I’ve had the issue on a number of different style bikes. Some time ago I really embraced your “playing piano” and it has help quite a bit. I suspect there may be some carpel tunnel or something going on because it will still occur with loose hands. I’ve also found that glove size/fit absolutely plays a role, the tight fitting the gloves the more likely I’ll have an issue.

@mippymoo069

Жыл бұрын

same as dude i wear xl gloves even though i have average size hands

@mengaw-yong2490

Жыл бұрын

Same here it was carpal tunnel And if u leave it too long u get permanent nerve damage to see an orthopod

I bought a throttle assist on amazon. This really helps on long rides.

I was having a problem with this but only with my right hand. I put a sponge type sleeve over the throttle grip and it cured the problem.

Don't have that problem...might be as a guitar player,one is constantly stretching and exercising forearms, wrists and fingers. Agree with the scenario of grip...I have a very light grip...sueeze the tank and work the foot pegs a lot..for me Pivot Pegz work for me

Typically grips are too small in diameter which doesn't help.

My hand (right hand) goes numb because of my shoulder. I dislocated it back in the early 2000s. It has dislocated so many times since then that it is a loose joint. Because of that looseness if I do not have a good position with my back I will have a pinched brachial plexus (nerve cluster). I never death grip it. It is just that it starts to go numb. No pain. just numb. It was why I bought my Atlas Throttle lock. I can lock my throttle, move my arm to a neutral position and let my arm recover, then release the lock and shift my position enough to take the pressure off the shoulder. I ride a Scout Rogue. Cruiser with 10" mini-apes.

My hand goes numb from my Road King after I installed new heated grips. They have a strong snap back and they're ever so slightly thicker than the stock grips. I try using cruise control as much as possible when going on longer rides.

( can you play the piano while riding? ) was the best thing that I ever heard cause I play the piano and what you said makes perfect sense.

Cruise style bikes slight pull on opposite bar to the bend ,U an bike with corner more upright less effort ,if U go wide pull more , tight gloves won't help either

I notice most people grip the handlebars like it was a pullup bar...wrong hand position, and held too tight. You hear about arm pump a lot in MX/ADVEnduro, where there’s lots of standing on the footpegs. Similar mistake, though...

There is a throttle wrist clip you can put on to rest your hand on the throttle. It was a must riding my Harley. Not needed for the BMW.

Best way to reduce tingling in hands is to fill the bars with RTV remove switch gear first and replace bar end inserts with rubber hose then screw bar ends in make sure you fill the bars fully but allowing for bar ends re install switch 👍

Never happens on my Gold Wing (GL1500)

Brand new rider here... I found out in my MSF course that I have some pretty bad carpal tunnel "arthritis" in my hands... I was still motivated to see the course through and get my first bike though. Couple months later and I cam across a T-7. Took it out in my neighborhood and yea.... I've got it bad man and it's pretty crushing but I'm hoping to put a lighter clutch and brake lever on there. In the end, for future reference, I've come to realize that a DCT bike is my best bet though. I'll try to pay attention to my grip though like you said. My hands don't go numb, they just feel like someone is twisting knives in them lol. Sucks pretty bad.

@archangeljl

Жыл бұрын

you just convinced me to buy a DCT because my wrists can get really bad. i appreciate the insight i never thought about that perspective

@rolobotoman

9 ай бұрын

I used to have very bad carpal tunel syndrome. Couldn't ride a bycicle, couldn't sleep, had to wake up to shake my arms out of the painful numbness. Got the surgery, instant fix. If you can, get it done, if you can't, fight for universal health care.

Also, consider pressure on your ulnar nerve. Not matter how light your grip (piano playing or not 😂), numbness can be caused by pressure on this part of your palm. Many gloves have padding to relieve this pressure.

i n the 70's I rode a Norton 750 commando & Norton used engine-frame isolation (grommets?) to prevent (greatly reduce) engine vibration being transmitted to the frame & thus the rider. I never experienced any numbness or fatigue on that bike, even after hours of riding hard on back country roads. This practice has been dropped by modern bikes & is the main reason for rider numbness and body fatigue. It is not the riders fault, bike companies need to re-institute engine isolation and vibration reduction for the rider interface .

I try to stay relaxed when I ride. I learned that in boxing. In boxing staying relaxed helps you keep your energy.

Only my throttle hand goes numb epsecially on long rides where the speed is constant. The throttle spring is pretty hard, so I am gripping it to keep steady speed. I sometimes open my hand and try to hold the throttle with my palm but i'm pushing through my arm to keep the throttle steady. During a spirited twisty road ride that doesn't happen because the speed varies.

ive got reynards syndrome so i get bad circulation in my fingers. I dont grip as hard now and also i have heated grips and can ride up to an hour at a time without it getting too bad

Absolutely correct if my hands go numb,slow down, calm Down its a indicator for me now

I have a cruiser bike, would also like to own a sport bike but never rode a sport bike, is it more difficult to ride a sport bike? Thanks for your excellent videos

@MotoJitsu So why do my fingers go numb when I don't actually grip the bar and what do I do about that? I mostly ride with my index and middle finger laying on the clutch lever and the ring and little finger barely gripping, yet two to three fingers will frequently go numb. I ride similar on the throttle side too, but rarely have an issue there. Also no pressure on wrists, the bikes are dual sport and standard street.

@MotoJitsu I'm a new rider riding a naked bike. Weirdly enough only my right hand numbs up everytime, not my left. Although im def not loose enough on the bike

Another reason of course why hands get numb is: cold. I experience that almost 6 days out of 7 while riding in winter in Vancouver Canada.

What a spectacular presentation. I didn't mean to write here. 😂

I don't have problems with my left hand, my right hand goes numb. I have carpal tunnel in my right hand and is affected by the throttle movement. I had to put a throttle lock on the bike to help. I have tried holding at different angles and even less grip. I was supposed to have surgery to fix it like I did on the left side. Some people may not really know they have carpal tunnel until they do something like ride a bike. This won't stop me from riding.

Riding in the rain on Perrelli Diablo Rosso IIIs that are near the wear bars is unnerving. I bound up more than once today in the curves and I'm sure I pissed off a large percentage of the NOCO traffic around Horsetooth Reservoir this afternoon for about 30 minutes or so. I'll keep working at it while I wait for the new tires to be delivered.

Gloves cause me to grip the throttle harder without even realizing it, because I lose that sensitivity that you get with bare hands. I dont want to ride without gloves, so I ride with the thinnest pair of motorcycle riding gloves that I can find (Dainese textile gloves) which help. Something is better than nothing...

Would like to add a couple of points. Sometimes it can also point to the start of Carpal Tunnel if you get strong pins-and-needles as apposed to just a little numbness(like me now). You can help the situation with slightly heavier bar-end weights to reduce the vibrating, but it's a balancing act to get the right weights, and you have to learn not to death-grip first to get it just right. The weights can help a lot when you ride a lot of country/rough roads too. And for the less experienced young'uns, shaving 500grams won't help you go faster off the lights, you should never get lighter weights like the anodized ally ones.

@tomislavstanich9379

Жыл бұрын

Very good points. Being the pianist, I came to the same conclusions! Thanks.

@JuxZeil

Жыл бұрын

@@tomislavstanich9379 Hope you don't get it too bad bud. It's a real downer when you can't do the things you like in life.

@tomislavstanich9379

Жыл бұрын

@@JuxZeil First of I am not your bud! What is your point? I just do exactly I like, due to the limitations of reality around us. Instead of hiding your identity, I am just realising about your shady hiding character.

@JuxZeil

Жыл бұрын

@@tomislavstanich9379 Ok mate, just trying to be civil...have a nice life anyway. 🤨

@tomislavstanich9379

Жыл бұрын

@@JuxZeil Oohhh, ... how nice of you, ... I am so excited! Being civil is not the same as cynical, what you are. Your own insecurity leave to someone who is close to you. I am NOT! Have a noce life, anyway?

Lion king look, love it😂

I previously treated patients with Carpal tunnel syndome by providing wrist/hand braces. CTS is typically an "overuse syndrome". I also ride and at times experienced hand numbness. You are right on about the wrist hand angle in reducing numbness. Most CTS symptoms occur due to wrists being flexed downwards while using computer keyboards for extended periods, imagine sitting in a low chair with a keyboard on an elevated table during use. A chair which places you higher and causes your wrists/ hands to be extended upwards is better and reduces the constriction around the carpal tunnel, which is on the underside of the wrists, and usually relieves the numbness. Great advice on bike positional corrections Greg! Also need to constantly remind myself of this while riding.

8:33 - Somebody PLEASE do a "or can I play the piano in a corner" meme!

My hands go numb on a bicycle or pushing a stroller, or even long car rides. I have issues with my motorcycle of course

I have to ride 6 km of loose gravel on my Bonneville before hitting pavement. I find that with a really light grip and letting the bike dance a little I can traverse the distance safely at about 40 kmh in third gear. A higher gear gives a less rapid response, If I tighten the grip the ditch looms and it’s a steep ditch.

@MotoJitsu

Ай бұрын

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Some bar-end weights are absolutely pointless.. the Renthal ones that were on my K4 Bandit 600 weighed nothing. Swapped the fixings out of them and put them in the original bar-end weights and mounted them on the bike... They're seriously heavy compared to the aforementioned. Makes a big difference. Heated grips as well.... Yes, on Renthal bars, heated-grips and original bar-end weights. Also, thin gloves are crap, I'd rather have sweaty hands than rattled one's.

I can tell you, I have a pinched spinal chord in my neck if I put my hands over the shoulder my hand goes numb in a few minutes. I can't do work well with anything over my head. So ape hangars are out for me lol I would not be able to do that.

Anyone ever use Grip Puppies? A track rider recommended them to me actually but I like the idea of them for damping vibrations

Mine only really go numb when I’m up at highway speeds. I have a Harley Sportster and it’s only a 5 speed, so once I’m up in those highway speeds in 5th gear, the RPMS are high and I feel like I’m sitting on a human size vibrator lol

So what about when my hands go numb when I’m cruising on the highway with cruise control and barely even touching the grips? Doesn’t happen at all while around town but just cruising on the highway it does

could grip size be a factor? bmw adventure bikes are small, cruiser grips are bigger.

Please can you do a video of explaining when you push left you go left, if you push left doesn’t that turn the wheel right slightly to go right? I know your statement is correct because my instructor also said the same thing push in the direction you want to go, but please can you show us in more detail the physics behind this on your bike maybe? Many thanks btw for all your content and help :)

@Kai-uk1yj

Жыл бұрын

Can try searching up counter steer! :)

@jorgezx6r

Жыл бұрын

With one you’re pushing u go to the same direction u pushing, and the other one if you pull towards you the bike will go to the opposite direction you’re pulling. (Pulling/pushing )

Thought it was my X-r vibrations but it was carpal tunnel syndrome. Eliminate those discussed here first but Don’t ignore CTS as it can lead to permanent nerve and muscle damage

I think that squeezing too hard will make your hands numb even with the engine off. Same thing happens with the steering wheel of a car or yoke of an airplane. I don't think the engine vibrations or even rough roads are the cause.

I dig the piano references.

Yes play the piano but try initiating the counter steer movement with a hip sway. When doing Motojitsu drills I found that hip swaying would make me carve through like a dolphin. Think Shakira cus "hips don't lie". I do the drills as often as possible. They're fun & they really do help me improve my skills on the bike. Advanced riders use their lower body like you wouldn't believe. Peace

From a biophysical or medical point of view hand and wrist pain are identical to carpal tunnel syndrome involving the median nerve. The pain an inflammation response is controlled by the autonomic nervous system made up of and including the sympathetic nerves which react to pain to feel it by pressure sensing. And, reacts to cause a healing responses called inflammation to increase the blood flow and turn on certain hormones like adrenaline / epinephrine that is a neurotransmitter and hormone to stimulate flight or flight - increased heart rate blood pressure and the closing of the capillaries nerves causing reduction of venal blood flow which raises blood pressure while reducing potential for bleeding from external injuries that are usually closer to the outer surfaces of the body where the veins are located. And, as a temporally delayed response to quiet the pain response release hormones and neurotransmitters to reduce pain and inflammation such as norepinephrine/Nora adrenaline. There is always a counter response to the initial pain to later reduce it, in a normally functioning autonomic nervous system… sometimes with intense or long lasting pain events the brain can lose the ability to turn off the sympathetic response by turning on the quiescent or properly parasympathetic response this is now called regional pain syndrome and is a serous disease it happens in 8 out of a thousand intensely painful events including motorcycle wrecks or even broken wrists…. . Now we understand how stress, pressure and injury work to cause autonomic responses … which we cannot control. Now the structural aspects relating to pain. The pain is always sensed by specific neurotransmitters which sense only pressure… pressure equates with pain. This can be accumulated pressure responses from vibrational sources. Burns it’s pressure of the sympathizers responses… but once tissue is burned away there can be no pain from that but only living surrounding tissues due to pressure. The numbness is the initial over response of the release of the nurepinephrine following the sympathies initial response in an effort to quiet or have a stronger pain reduction which tapers off. If you ride and go beyond the initial pain and sympathetic response into the numbing you are injured and it will take some time to recover… stop before you go too far. Hand and Wrist Anatomy - now I copied this part from medical text assuming you can correlate how the physical structure relates to how pain and numbness is created. The human hand is made up of the wrist, palm, and fingers and consists of 27 bones, 27 joints, 34 muscles, over 100 ligaments and tendons, and many blood vessels and nerves. The hands enable us to perform many of our daily activities such as driving, writing and cooking. It is important to understand the normal anatomy of the hand to learn more about diseases and conditions that can affect our hands. What one should keep in mind the nerves and tendons are often constrained by structure and near by blood vessels. This can constrain or squeeze the nerves by blood pressure increases or by pressure points of surrounding bone, tendon, or muscle structure… this can cause pain which is aggravated by sympathetic response. Nerves and tendons are sheathed in a protective and lubricative but rather tough structure… the constraint of this can cause problems. Bones The wrist is comprised of 8 carpal bones. These wrist bones are attached to the radius and ulna of the forearm to form the wrist joint. They connect to 5 metacarpal bones that form the palm of the hand. Each metacarpal bone connects to one finger at a joint called the metacarpophalangeal joint or MCP joint. This joint is also commonly referred to as the knuckle joint. The bones in our fingers and thumb are called phalanges. Each finger has 3 phalanges separated by two interphalangeal joints, except for the thumb, which only has 2 phalanges and one interphalangeal joint. The first joint close to the knuckle joint is called the proximal interphalangeal joint or PIP joint. The joint closest to the end of the finger is called the distal interphalangeal joint or DIP joint. The MCP joint and the PIP joint act like hinges when the fingers bend and straighten. Soft tissues Our hand bones are held in place and supported by various soft tissues. These include: articular cartilage, ligaments, muscles and tendons. Articular cartilage is a smooth material that acts as a shock absorber and cushions the ends of bones at each of the 27 joints, allowing smooth movement of the hand. Muscles and ligaments function to control the movement of the hand. Ligaments are tough rope-like tissue that connect bones to other bones, holding them in place and providing stability to the joints. Each finger joint has two collateral ligaments on either side, which prevents the abnormal sideways bending of the joints. The volar plate is the strongest ligament in the hand. It joins the proximal and middle phalanx on the palm side of the joint and prevents backwards bending of the PIP joint (hyperextension). Muscles Muscles are fibrous tissues that help produce movement. Muscles work by contracting. There are two types of muscles in the hand, intrinsic and extrinsic muscles. Intrinsic muscles are small muscles that originate in the wrist and hand. They are responsible for fine motor movement of the fingers during activities such as writing or playing the piano. Extrinsic muscles originate in the forearm or elbow and control the movement of the wrist and hand. These muscles are responsible for gross hand movements. They position the wrist and hand while the fingers perform fine motor movements. Each finger has six muscles controlling its movement: three extrinsic and three intrinsic muscles. The index and little finger each have an extra extrinsic extensor. Tendons Tendons are soft tissues that connect muscles to bones. When muscles contract, tendons pull the bones causing the finger to move. The extrinsic muscles attach to finger bones through long tendons that extend from the forearm through the wrist. Tendons located on the palm side help in bending the fingers and are called flexor tendons, while tendons on top of the hand help in straightening the fingers, and are called extensor tendons. Nerves Nerves of the hand carry electrical signals from the brain to the muscles in the forearm and hand, enabling movement. They also carry the senses of touch, pain and temperature back from the hands to the brain. The three main nerves of the hand and wrist are the ulnar nerve, radial nerve and median nerve. All three nerves originate at the shoulder and travel down the arm to the hand. Each of these nerves has sensory and motor components. Ulnar Nerve: The ulnar nerve crosses the wrist through an area called Guyon’s canal and branches to provide sensation to the little finger and half of the ring finger. Median Nerve: The median nerve crosses the wrist through a tunnel called the carpal tunnel. The median nerve provides sensation to the palm, thumb, index finger, middle finger, and part of the ring finger. Radial Nerve: The radial nerve runs down the thumb side of the forearm and provides sensation to the back of the hand from the thumb to the middle finger. Blood Vessels Blood vessels travel beside the nerves to supply blood to the hand. The main arteries are the ulnar and radial arteries, which supply blood to the front of the hand, fingers, and thumb. The ulnar artery travels next to the ulnar nerve through the Guyon’s canal in the wrist. The radial artery is the largest artery of the hand, traveling across the front of the wrist, near the thumb. Pulse is measured at the radial artery. Other blood vessels travel across the back of the wrist to supply blood to the back of the hand, fingers, and thumb. Bursae Bursae are small fluid filled sacs that decrease friction between tendons and bone or skin. Bursae contain special cells called synovial cells that secrete a lubricating fluid.

@kimballscarr

9 ай бұрын

Now… it is important to remember stop and take a break when your pain starts… the sooner you do the easier will be recovery. Waiting until your hands are numb… that is dumb and dangerous medically. You do not want regional pain syndrome what used to be called reflex autonomic dystrophy… dystrophy is a syndrome that gradually intensifies and never goes away. When that happens your brain’s autonomic response becomes messed up and you feel intense pain all the time for no reason other than you brain has lost the ability to turn it off when the pain causing event has healed… and you may get spontaneous pain events for no reason whatsoever…. Forever…. And pain killer drugs don’t work!

@kimballscarr

9 ай бұрын

As usual Google AI screws up by constantly correcting my writing…. Stupid stuff like sympathetic nervous system becomes on Googles work sympathizer nervous system.

@kimballscarr

9 ай бұрын

My only riding comment is remember the motorcycle is very well stabilized the faster you go this increases greatly. You do not need to force the bike or use any strength at all to operate it… in fact riding without hands on the handle bar is often safer than incorrect driver responses.

Some bikes have bad vibration at certain ram's. Loosen that grip.

the advice I heard from my instructor was to pretend we had t-rex arms and stupid as it sounds it works